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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, my.
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Speaker 4: If you're listening to Strange News the evening it publishes, folks,
Speaker 4: Welcome to Monday, October twenty seventh. It is Halloween week.
Speaker 4: It is the most wonderful time of the year. And
Speaker 4: also we are recording live together in person.
Speaker 3: Can we get a booth still a boom boom boom? Yeah,
Speaker 3: boom times. We love it. It's our favorite time of
Speaker 3: the year. I think it's a lot of y'all's as well. Yeah.
Speaker 4: The Monster Mash. Sorry, I've kind of sleeped a private
Speaker 4: so the Monster Mash that's just really cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: That way is a song about wait, so it's a song.
Speaker 4: About a dance. A dance, Yes, yeah, very met It's
Speaker 4: like the hokey pokey almost but more thematic. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: it's like boom we we. This is not only our
Speaker 4: first time recording together post adventures on the High Seas,
Speaker 4: but this is also our first time really getting to
Speaker 4: catch up before we get into strange news.
Speaker 2: Now should we do that?
Speaker 4: You want to catch up, you guys please?
Speaker 3: When the last time we caught up, well, you know,
Speaker 3: we spent some time together, some quality time, if I
Speaker 3: do say so, myself on a boat. Remember that moment
Speaker 3: on the other boat when we played the song We're
Speaker 3: on a boat we did. Yes, that was a real
Speaker 3: moment as well, and.
Speaker 2: It was delightful, so fantastic.
Speaker 4: Thank you Charlie, Thank you, Captain Charlie. We're also also
Speaker 4: thank you to Tennessee for coming along with us and
Speaker 4: putting up with our salute to you, sir, putting up
Speaker 4: with our shenanigans.
Speaker 3: Than to all our fellow sailors and the sailors we're
Speaker 3: sailors now came to our live show about for me
Speaker 3: to trangle. Yeah, believe we're going to be beaming out
Speaker 3: into podcast land before.
Speaker 4: Long, right, Yes, absolutely true.
Speaker 2: We met several folks who actually listen and hang out
Speaker 2: with us. In this world. But we hung out with
Speaker 2: them for reals and it was awesome.
Speaker 3: It was wonderful.
Speaker 4: Yeah. We we started keeping lists of people to thank.
Speaker 4: Do you want to do it at the end of
Speaker 4: the show, or do you want to do it now?
Speaker 2: Let's do it at the end. You got to let
Speaker 2: do it all the way through to find out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4: Captain de Vaughn, who was the guy who took us
Speaker 4: on the boat from the.
Speaker 3: Boat, Oh yeah, and then we also met the actual
Speaker 3: effects captain of the Valiant Lady shout out Demir, shout
Speaker 3: out Deputy Captain Maran, and accept my friend request.
Speaker 4: You guys, so let's get to it right because they're
Speaker 4: so we're so used to doing strange news every week.
Speaker 4: We didn't want to leave you without a dope beat
Speaker 4: this step two. But we had a run of classics
Speaker 4: right as we were as we were traversing in our
Speaker 4: maritime adventures, and a lot of stuff happened before we
Speaker 4: came back to check in with our fellow conspiracy realists
Speaker 4: about all the news strange and otherwise maybe we dip
Speaker 4: our toes in with this one. Guys. You know that
Speaker 4: butt breathing might soon be a medical treatment.
Speaker 3: Finally, this is a big one funeral for me. It's
Speaker 3: clearly we'll always top off the list of important news
Speaker 3: stories anything to do with.
Speaker 2: But may I be the first to say, what the
Speaker 2: hell are you talking about? Cox?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like our old butt light ad. The beer
Speaker 4: is so good you could drink it with your mouth.
Speaker 3: I love that we gave it to him for free.
Speaker 3: I haven't heard him trying it out quite.
Speaker 4: Yet, but there's it's probably a different market from us.
Speaker 2: Is it like the South Park eating with your butt thing?
Speaker 4: Similar?
Speaker 3: Is it like butt chucking?
Speaker 4: Is it like boofyeh? Similar to shout out scotus. So
Speaker 4: it turns out that last year a group of researchers
Speaker 4: won the twenty twenty four Ignoble Prize in Physiology for
Speaker 4: discovering that, yes, many mammals are capable of breathing through
Speaker 4: their atus.
Speaker 3: Give us a list, Yeah, is it?
Speaker 4: We do so, TVG, TVD. We wanted to shout this out.
Speaker 4: The Ignoble Prize, as we all know, is kind of
Speaker 4: like the Raspberries for science or the Razzies.
Speaker 3: Honestly, unfair, mean spirited, mean spirited. I think this is
Speaker 3: important science that we're talking about here's today, I'm not
Speaker 3: worthy of any kind of ignomy ignominy. Yeah, okay, thank you.
Speaker 4: I think we both got close to it.
Speaker 3: I can't remember.
Speaker 4: That's a that's a word that's tough to pronounce, similar
Speaker 4: to that word for magic press digitate, press, the digitation
Speaker 4: press the digitation.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So, uh, this team, Just to keep it short, this
Speaker 4: team went on after their Ignoble prize, they conducted a
Speaker 4: new study and said, hey, maybe we can adapt this
Speaker 4: butt breathing method to treat people with blocked airways or
Speaker 4: clogged lungs. So shame on all of us who had
Speaker 4: some pretty awesome jokes about butt breathing. Cool.
Speaker 3: They did not have to have the pen shoved through
Speaker 3: or you know what I mean, you know the movie
Speaker 3: see it in those medical drama shows all the time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the improvised tracheotomy.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 2: In this case, we're talking about intra anally administered oxygen
Speaker 2: gas or liquid as an acronym.
Speaker 3: Match one it is.
Speaker 4: You got it, you got.
Speaker 3: Let's move on.
Speaker 4: Okay, I thought you were going.
Speaker 5: For Kennedy accident there, real quick. Uh So, if you
Speaker 5: want to learn more about this.
Speaker 4: Go to ours Technica. Excellent article by a journalist we've
Speaker 4: mentioned in the past, Jennifer Olette, but breathing may soon
Speaker 4: be a real medical treatment. We're gonna pause for a
Speaker 4: word from our sponsors, and then we'll get into even
Speaker 4: stranger news, and don't worry, we'll tell you about it
Speaker 4: with our mouths.
Speaker 3: And we return and Ben, you totally nailed it. The
Speaker 3: monster mash is, in fact the dance one cannot do
Speaker 3: a song. But I have heard people getting perplexed about this.
Speaker 3: This concept of the monster mash is about a song,
Speaker 3: but it is not itself the song. But it is
Speaker 3: neither of those things. It is in fact a dance
Speaker 3: because one cannot do a song. Never mention it Halloween.
Speaker 2: It's just the monsters.
Speaker 4: It's just the monsters, and the mashing monster is smashy.
Speaker 3: No, that's very different.
Speaker 2: I think we've mentioned this before on the show, But
Speaker 2: if you're not aware of it, and you're not a child,
Speaker 2: go ahead and search for Comedy Bang Bang Monster Mash
Speaker 2: and find all of the versions of the monster mash
Speaker 2: that they have created for that show on their very
Speaker 2: special Halloween episode.
Speaker 3: I don't think I've heard of one, so I'm looking
Speaker 3: forward to that. And also shout out to where Wolf
Speaker 3: bermtzvah spooky scary boys becoming men and men becoming wolves.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Tracy Jordan from thirty Rock, one of the
Speaker 3: best monster mash parodies of what are the best sitcoms
Speaker 3: of all time? Per minute ratio is than anything else.
Speaker 3: It's so dense.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Tina Fey, Thank you Tina Fey.
Speaker 4: And Louren Michaels.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sure, and Alec mister Baldwin, you know, I
Speaker 2: just finished Destroiter's amazing. What a delight telling you guys,
Speaker 2: literally delighted.
Speaker 3: It's such a good hang. Obviously huge Tim Robinson fan,
Speaker 3: I think you should leave Stan. That one kind of
Speaker 3: got buried for a minute. And now Netflix has been
Speaker 3: pushing it out and I binged it in like two days.
Speaker 3: Your nailed. It's delightful. Yes, the report is clear.
Speaker 2: I'm only six episodes in.
Speaker 4: Oh man, guess what You're in for a great ride.
Speaker 3: I bring that up because produced executive produced by Lauren Michael.
Speaker 6: That's right.
Speaker 3: He knows how to pick him and he seems to
Speaker 3: give chances even to folks who are a little bit
Speaker 3: off the beaten track, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Got kicked off SNL after like one season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, I mean, he's the reason the kids in
Speaker 3: the Hall made it to the stage. He's the producer
Speaker 3: of brain Candy, So dude knows how to appeal to
Speaker 3: the masses and also to the you know, the weirdos.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and speaking speaking of, let's see if this segue works. Okay,
Speaker 4: so we'll see.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: So we all know that Tim Robinson has his newest
Speaker 4: project out with his co career is at King And
Speaker 4: I watched episode one The Chair Company, rich is Uh
Speaker 4: what'd you think? What'd you think?
Speaker 3: Though? I'm intrigued. It is very much red meat for
Speaker 3: the type of consumers of media that we are. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and it's exactly the kind of thing that he should
Speaker 3: be doing, sort of like a super super super dark
Speaker 3: satirical look at like the corporate world and like all
Speaker 3: in the intrigue and sort of there seems to be
Speaker 3: an illuminatis conspiracy at the heart of the whole thing, right,
Speaker 3: but I've only seen the one, so I'm super into it.
Speaker 4: You're gonna share conspiracy, a chair conspiracy, That's what the
Speaker 4: whole thing's about. There are only two episodes out as
Speaker 4: we're recording today on October twenty second. Vanila nailed it.
Speaker 4: We're super into it. Chairs have been on our minds.
Speaker 4: And there's a story you found that, Matt, I don't
Speaker 4: know if you were aware of this. I know nothing
Speaker 4: about so. I love a good heist. We love a heist,
Speaker 4: we love we all love a good heist. And apparently
Speaker 4: there's a heist involving.
Speaker 3: Sure, this seems a little more, a little less like
Speaker 3: a heist than that it was done in one fell
Speaker 3: swoop and more like a death by a thousand chair situations.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you know, just just kind of picking them
Speaker 3: out here and there from cafes that aren't locking them down.
Speaker 3: You gotta lock down your chairs. Cafes got lock down
Speaker 3: your chairs. There is apparently something of a chair thieving
Speaker 3: syndicate over in Spain that got busted by Spanish police, suspected,
Speaker 3: let's say, until proven, guilty of stealing over eleven hundred
Speaker 3: chairs from various beistros and cafes. You know, the culture
Speaker 3: over there, lots of lovely little you know.
Speaker 4: Patio cafe exactly street side, and they all get locked up.
Speaker 3: They usually get locked up with chains. We're talking plastic chairs,
Speaker 3: we're talking metal chairs. The occasional wood chair you could
Speaker 3: saw through the wood, but then you wouldn't have yourself
Speaker 3: a functioning chair, would you? Would you? De Spain's National
Speaker 3: Police said earlier this week that they had arrested seven
Speaker 3: people suspected of stealing more than eleven hundred chairs from
Speaker 3: various outdoor seating areas at restaurants and bars across Madrid
Speaker 3: and in the nearby Tri State area. Kind of situations.
Speaker 4: My friend, we sit like kings.
Speaker 2: I guess is this related to the anti tourism movement.
Speaker 3: That's funny, because where the tourist is gonna sit, if
Speaker 3: there's no chairs, maybe they'll just.
Speaker 7: Golm wants don't like to do?
Speaker 3: Is stand? Well, I'm serious.
Speaker 2: I recall from my brief time in several parts of
Speaker 2: Spain that those cafes and the outdoor seeing areas were
Speaker 2: one of the highlights of just being in the area,
Speaker 2: being you enjoy where you are and having.
Speaker 3: Europe as well, having a nice espresso, having a little prosecco, other.
Speaker 4: Drinks that end with a real tapas, which means they
Speaker 4: come free with the water, olive warm, olive. Larry David's coming,
Speaker 4: It's supposed to be free.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's funny about olives. Also, speaking of David,
Speaker 3: what do you do with the pit? You know? What
Speaker 3: do you have a garbage plate? You know it's disgusting.
Speaker 4: So wait, could I ask quick quick questions?
Speaker 3: You must and I wish you would.
Speaker 4: Okay, great? Uh, then into the breach once again, friends, Uh,
Speaker 4: what do you do with eleven hundred chairs?
Speaker 3: Well, you flip them, buddy, You find yourself a chair fence,
Speaker 3: start a chair fan chair.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you start a chair compan full.
Speaker 3: Circle now, I mean they were apparently selling them around
Speaker 3: Spain and also in Morocco and Romania. So if you're
Speaker 3: looking for a good deal on a hot chair, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's apparently the Spotify.
Speaker 4: I'm just thinking of the transit costs.
Speaker 3: It seems like maybe it's one of those things where
Speaker 3: it's either idiotic or is a genius. Rights Like, nobody
Speaker 3: has thought of this. But to your point, to both
Speaker 3: of y'all's points, they are typically after hours lock the
Speaker 3: f down right with heavy chains and stuff. So they
Speaker 3: really have to find these crimes of opportunity case in
Speaker 3: the joints for folks that aren't locking their chairs down.
Speaker 4: And then what do you say on your first date? Oh,
Speaker 4: my job, I sell loose chairs in Romania. Yeah, well
Speaker 4: you probably have to have a cover story. I would
Speaker 4: imagine I drive to roman Off exactly. I'm in I'm
Speaker 4: in suitable import exports.
Speaker 3: And let's see. The estimated value of said stolen shares
Speaker 3: was around sixty thousand euros or sixty nine thousand US dollars.
Speaker 3: That's according to police. Let's see, there's a piece on
Speaker 3: ABC News that is actually mainly a reprint of the
Speaker 3: Associated Press article about it, and they say that it
Speaker 3: was a group of six men and women who worked tonight.
Speaker 3: I'm quoting from the piece here to pilfer the chairs
Speaker 3: from eighteen different establishments in Madrid and Talavera de la Ryana,
Speaker 3: which is a smaller city to the southwest of the
Speaker 3: capital city. And this was between August and September of
Speaker 3: this year. They face charges of theft and belonging to
Speaker 3: a criminal organization. They are now being classified as something
Speaker 3: of a you know, a group of organized criminals, something
Speaker 3: of a syndicate.
Speaker 6: They're chairman of organized tribe, one would hope, keyboard chairman
Speaker 6: of the hewn down to make delightful dovetail joints on
Speaker 6: bespoken chairs.
Speaker 3: How do you feel about an Iran dak not a fan?
Speaker 3: I'm uncomfortable.
Speaker 4: I'm okay with the vibe, I'm not okay with the
Speaker 4: commitment of their being there for a long time.
Speaker 3: I like the really large ones you'll see in the
Speaker 3: North Georgia Mountains.
Speaker 2: Can somebody explain to me what a.
Speaker 3: Wooden share that is perma reclined at an angle that
Speaker 3: I don't really it is super deep, yeah, so you
Speaker 3: can't adjust it.
Speaker 4: Some of the smaller ones.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's true in general, though, they sort of have
Speaker 3: a set form, right they do.
Speaker 4: They do, and it's kind of like a papa song.
Speaker 4: Like at first you're you're thinking, this is an interesting
Speaker 4: experience for my button, my posture, and then time goes
Speaker 4: on and you're like, I kind of want a regular chair.
Speaker 3: Well, will help you out with that, there you will.
Speaker 4: We just have to go to Romania.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, what the hell is a papasan Papaistan's like
Speaker 3: a bean bag, right kind.
Speaker 7: Of, It's like it's the circular, Yes, it's it's a cupped,
Speaker 7: a cupped, padded thing that is seated in sort of
Speaker 7: like a futon that's seated in a metal frames.
Speaker 2: Your home metals.
Speaker 3: It's metal or bamboo, well usually metal legs and then
Speaker 3: a bamboo baskets, and then the thing sort of creates
Speaker 3: a formatting factor.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you guys.
Speaker 3: They're not great, not super comfortable. They look and now
Speaker 3: they're kind of coming back because they're a bit like retro.
Speaker 3: They're like given retro vibes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like it would belong in a
Speaker 4: bedroom that had a waterbed.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, are coming back? I hope so did they leave?
Speaker 3: I think they maybe just got a little more niche.
Speaker 3: You know, you have you seen Licorice Pizza Paul Thomas Anderson.
Speaker 3: Maybe there's a great waterbed subplot in it, Like this
Speaker 3: entrepreneurial kid kind of finds out about water beds in
Speaker 3: the size.
Speaker 4: He's gonna a subplot subplot. Yeah, here's my prediction about
Speaker 4: the chair heist thing. It feels like, based on the
Speaker 4: stuff you found here, it feels like it might have
Speaker 4: been an inside job for at least a couple of
Speaker 4: those restaurant.
Speaker 3: I'm looking for the pun, but it's not there. That's
Speaker 3: why I think you're right, because to your point and
Speaker 3: to the thing we've been saying, I've never seen chairs
Speaker 3: just stacked on the curb side. Yeah, it doesn't seem
Speaker 3: like a very good business move because people are gonna
Speaker 3: take your stuff if you don't bolt it down. Not
Speaker 3: to have like lost faith in humanity or anything, but
Speaker 3: it's just kind of how it is.
Speaker 2: I gotta say, Yeah, I'm really going through it, and
Speaker 2: I feel like I might get some Papa Soans or
Speaker 2: maybe even some Matondacks if maybe I won the lottery
Speaker 2: or something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we just ask chat GPT. Apparently it can predict
Speaker 3: lotto numbers.
Speaker 2: What or not?
Speaker 4: I mean, everybody can predict lotto numbers, but can they
Speaker 4: predict them accurately?
Speaker 3: That the question I'm just gonna pull from this daily
Speaker 3: mail thing. Powerball winner reveals how she used chat g
Speaker 3: to generate winning numbers. Women in Michigan decided to ask
Speaker 3: the what do you call it large language model system
Speaker 3: which is quite popular and a little bit divisive, for
Speaker 3: a little help when it came to picking her lottery numbers.
Speaker 3: Her name's Tammy Carvey, forty five of Winandot, which is
Speaker 3: near Detroit, speaking of the Detroit detroiters. On September sixth,
Speaker 3: the powerball numbers were drawn, and the numbers that she
Speaker 3: asked chat gpt to generate they hit. She says, I
Speaker 3: asked chat GPT for a set of powerball numbers, and
Speaker 3: those are the numbers I played, she said. In a
Speaker 3: statement from the Michigan Lottery, she said, typically she only
Speaker 3: plays when the jackpot goes into the stratosphere and with
Speaker 3: the powerball starting to really really swell. You know, these
Speaker 3: things are accumulative, I believe to around one point seven
Speaker 3: billion dollars, the second largest in US history. She decided
Speaker 3: to give it a go, and she did hit not
Speaker 3: hit the one point seven eighty seven billion, but she
Speaker 3: won a lot more than she thought she apparently. When
Speaker 3: she did win, she googled it's not apparently not immediately
Speaker 3: clear what the my mount you get is depending on
Speaker 3: how many numbers, whether powerball is included.
Speaker 4: I've mean, how many other people want exactly right.
Speaker 3: So it told her that she likedly won about fifty k,
Speaker 3: but that was then very quickly revealed to be only
Speaker 3: half of the story, and she actually won one hundred
Speaker 3: thousand dollars because she added a power play multiplier. Okay,
Speaker 3: here's the interesting uh huh. The Michigan Lottery did have
Speaker 3: a statement saying the results of all lottery drawings are
Speaker 3: random and cannot be predicted by utilizing artificial intelligence or
Speaker 3: other number generating tools.
Speaker 4: Also, none of the hardcore lottery players are gonna believe
Speaker 4: that for a second, because people get these superstitions when
Speaker 4: it comes to sample.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that could well become a superstition. And where it's
Speaker 3: like run it through old chatty as you used to
Speaker 3: call call them. Carvy's story is the latest Daily Mail says,
Speaker 3: and a growing trend of lottery hopefuls turning to the
Speaker 3: technology for numerical inspiration. And I think this is interesting.
Speaker 3: I don't put much credence in it having any kind
Speaker 3: of predictive ability for this kind of thing. It's just
Speaker 3: generating stuff. Not really sure what the prompt was, you know,
Speaker 3: if she just asked it cold, give me the numbers,
Speaker 3: or if she put in some kind of other little
Speaker 3: tidbits of information about herself personally, like the kinds of
Speaker 3: numbers she usually plays, or who knows. But the point
Speaker 3: is you're starting to see people use chat GPT for
Speaker 3: all kinds of weird and ridiculous and sort of like
Speaker 3: you know, frivolous kind of stuff like make me the
Speaker 3: most amazing brownie recipe, and I cringe at that a
Speaker 3: little bit, considering how resource intensive it is and how
Speaker 3: each one of these engagements uses a whole lot of power,
Speaker 3: a whole lot of water. And not to be tree
Speaker 3: huggy about it, but the more people just start running
Speaker 3: random things through it, the more that AI bubble is
Speaker 3: getting bursting. I don't mean economically, I just mean like
Speaker 3: what it's doing to the environment and the structure and
Speaker 3: the land needs and all of that.
Speaker 4: I love the lack of context too with this. I
Speaker 4: want to harp on it too much because I think
Speaker 4: there's a future episode for us, but the lack of
Speaker 4: context always cracks me up. With your example of a CHATCHBT,
Speaker 4: give me a brownie recipe, it is totally plausible that
Speaker 4: a large language model could respond by saying a brownie
Speaker 4: is a character from European folklore. The best way to
Speaker 4: create one is to walk whiter shins under a moonless night,
Speaker 4: collecting wolf Spain. And what are some other ingredients? I
Speaker 4: have new perfect classic. That's the baking soda of spell mlock. Hemlock.
Speaker 4: There we go, apples and apples.
Speaker 3: You know it's a little bit darkness.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I get way way more specific with the apple
Speaker 4: Brandy Smith is just for straight up gnomes anyway. No,
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, sleep deprivation again, but I think this is
Speaker 4: this is a really interesting example here, and because we're
Speaker 4: seeing more and more stories like this, we I think
Speaker 4: it is again. I think it's an episode in the future,
Speaker 4: especially with people who are using large language models to
Speaker 4: build what they consider communication with God.
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly. And then the idea of is they're a
Speaker 3: future of tech worship and you know chat GPT as
Speaker 3: a form of religion or God or these types of
Speaker 3: large language models. As they get more and more precise
Speaker 3: and specific, are we going to start seeing, you know,
Speaker 3: people treating them like deities. I think we're already seeing
Speaker 3: it a little bit.
Speaker 4: And we were using technology to create the folklore mythology
Speaker 4: of monsters of old.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and just to add before we go to the
Speaker 3: next segment. Last month, another powerball player from Virginia also
Speaker 3: credited chat GPT after she matched five numbers for a
Speaker 3: fifty thousand dollars win, which also for her balloon to
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty thousand. After she added that powerplay multiplier,
Speaker 3: she decided to give the entirety of her winnings and
Speaker 3: three even donations of fifty k to the Association for
Speaker 3: Fronto Temporal Degeneration, Shalom Farms and the Navy Marine Corps
Speaker 3: Relief Society. So you do love to see that class act.
Speaker 4: Dang class act. I don't know if not to cast
Speaker 4: dis version on the four of us, but Dylan, is
Speaker 4: that something you would have done? Would you have donated
Speaker 4: all of your lottery winnings?
Speaker 5: Not all of it?
Speaker 4: I love that, Okay, some of it? Some of it
Speaker 4: we could say now, and with that, we are going
Speaker 4: to pause for a word from our sponsors. But when
Speaker 4: we return, we've got even more strange AI or LM
Speaker 4: news on the way.
Speaker 2: And we're back. Go ahead, And I was going to say,
Speaker 2: turn off your phone, but you can't do that and
Speaker 2: also hear this, So.
Speaker 4: Turn off your phone in freestyle what you think we
Speaker 4: would have said, and then email it to probably be
Speaker 4: pretty close. You'll be pretty close, at.
Speaker 2: Least disabled bluetooth. No way, that's probably how you're listening.
Speaker 2: You know what, We just got to say it out
Speaker 2: loud because these folks decided to at least write it
Speaker 2: down and say it out loud and risk retribution from
Speaker 2: what did we refer to them before the eventual AI
Speaker 2: over the gods? Well, there are some people that are
Speaker 2: risking that whole perpetual prison slash punishment.
Speaker 3: Rocos.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is very smart, very influential people that have
Speaker 2: decided to risk it. And this is coming to us
Speaker 2: from Time magazine, written by Billy Perigo and Thallen Pilla.
Speaker 2: I believe is how you would say those Here's the title.
Speaker 2: Time is running out new open letter calls for ban
Speaker 2: on super intelligent AI development. Now, it's important that we
Speaker 2: say super intelligent AI development because this isn't saying ban
Speaker 2: on AI development. This is specifically going to be talking
Speaker 2: about the thing. I imagine we haven't read what the
Speaker 2: statement is yet. I imagine it would be the thing
Speaker 2: that we've talked about as AGI, the thing that is
Speaker 2: far more intelligent than any one human.
Speaker 4: Being, artificially generative intelligence, meaning that it's not going to
Speaker 4: just scrape the Internet and curate knowledge. It will synthesize,
Speaker 4: create its own thoughts, it will create its own code,
Speaker 4: It can perhaps create its own version of Offspring Yes,
Speaker 4: and have conversations that humans will quickly become irrelevant with it.
Speaker 2: And at least unable to fully control, right. I think
Speaker 2: that's a really important thing. So so first let's jump
Speaker 2: to a list of the human beings that signed this thing.
Speaker 2: We've got Steve Lum Yes, Steve Wozniak, one of the
Speaker 2: co founders of Apple. Yes, Steve from early Steve Bannon.
Speaker 2: Then we're aware of from politics and the campaigns of
Speaker 2: Donald Trump. Lea's the early campaign of Donald Trump.
Speaker 4: But he's very diplomatic, both of you.
Speaker 2: You've heard his name before. He's kind of an important
Speaker 2: person in the world.
Speaker 4: So it eas double Steve.
Speaker 2: We've got Paolo Benanti, who is an advisor, a direct
Speaker 2: advisor to the pope. We've got Harry and Meghan, you
Speaker 2: know them, guys, the Duke and Duchess. Yeah, We've got
Speaker 2: a bunch of other human beings. We've got several presidents,
Speaker 2: including Barack Obama and George W. Bush, the younger one.
Speaker 2: We've got people like Stephen.
Speaker 4: Fry Will I am your man, Glenn Beck.
Speaker 2: Glenn Beck signed this thing. Joseph Gordon Levitt signed this thing.
Speaker 2: Susan Rice, the National Security advisor under the Obama administration. Uh,
Speaker 2: there is a huge list. You can read that list.
Speaker 4: Oh, can I mention one other person. Please, you've all
Speaker 4: Noah Harari, who I think is one of the most
Speaker 4: qualified people to weigh it on this kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: Well, besides will I am, but I hear you.
Speaker 4: Besides besides, for that was my question.
Speaker 2: Grimes signed it, you guys, isn't it She's always.
Speaker 3: Been so pro AI and pro this kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: Isn't that interesting?
Speaker 4: And if you want to join these luminaries. Also, it
Speaker 4: is an open letter, and we know what that means, folks.
Speaker 2: That's right, it's an open letter. So if you want
Speaker 2: to read the letter, we'll read it to you right now.
Speaker 2: But you can head over to superintelligence dash statement dot
Speaker 2: org and here is the statement. It's very concise. Ready, Yeah,
Speaker 2: we call for a prohibition on the development of super intelligence,
Speaker 2: not lifted before there is one broad scientific consensus that
Speaker 2: it will be done safely and controllably, and two there's
Speaker 2: a strong public buy in. That means that there are
Speaker 2: enough human beings on the planet that agree, Hey, it's
Speaker 2: okay that you do that thing that could affect all
Speaker 2: of us right right, right, and right now. It's around
Speaker 2: at least according to some of the stuff that was
Speaker 2: cited within the writing, here from Time magazine. It's around
Speaker 2: five percent of people that say, yeah, superintelligence, let's do it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's not and that five percent is not
Speaker 4: evenly distributed across the global population, not to profile.
Speaker 3: And also, I mean there's people that is not in
Speaker 3: their orbit.
Speaker 4: No right, you know, like you, Let's say you're you're
Speaker 4: living in a place that has already suffered from resource extraction.
Speaker 4: You know, the closest computer is like several miles away
Speaker 4: and another village, and your thing is, I'm worried about
Speaker 4: how the crops are getting poisoned. And I'm pretty sure
Speaker 4: that these people who claim they're the military protecting the
Speaker 4: cobalt mine or whatever, I'm pretty sure they're just corporate goods.
Speaker 3: Well, don't worry. It'll be close to you soon enough
Speaker 3: when they dig up your rutebega fields and data centers.
Speaker 4: Yeah, shut up. Shout out to one of the weirdest
Speaker 4: sleeper hits by C. W.
Speaker 3: McCall.
Speaker 4: I made convoy.
Speaker 3: Oh yes, of.
Speaker 2: Course, And just to be clear, we do not support
Speaker 2: that type of digging up of the rudebagas. Absolutely not
Speaker 2: consensual digging. Yes, harvesting of rudabagas, that's what we're about on.
Speaker 3: Food stuff so or perhaps decorative you know purposes.
Speaker 4: Speak for yourselves.
Speaker 3: Anyway, for Halloween, let me.
Speaker 4: Was the original thing. Oh this, We're also going to
Speaker 4: get walloped with emails from our fellow conspiracy realist sci
Speaker 4: fi nerds if we don't. The but leryan Jahad from done.
Speaker 4: This is in Frank Herbert's Dune. There is a concerted
Speaker 4: effort to eliminate what they call thinking machines, the AI,
Speaker 4: because they came close to collapsing galactic civilization. So this
Speaker 4: is like a microcosmic version of what was predicted in
Speaker 4: so much sci fi that the humans and the meat
Speaker 4: mechs would have to ban together before it was too.
Speaker 3: Pretty good track record of sci fi writers predicting the future.
Speaker 4: Yes, I mean we also I don't know about you guys,
Speaker 4: but I also cherry picked the heck out of that.
Speaker 2: That the guy who made Laser Cats five, James Cameron.
Speaker 2: If you heard of this guy, He's also made things
Speaker 2: like I don't know, Terminator.
Speaker 3: William, the idea of the Internet is a sentient being.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Philip K. Dick, who succeeded despite his last name.
Speaker 3: And despite his copious LSD concession I think that might
Speaker 3: have been a because I could communicate with the yes, yes.
Speaker 4: Yes, diministry return. Well, Matt, we know that the thing
Speaker 4: about petitions and open letters of this ILK is that yes,
Speaker 4: anybody can sign it, but it does not in any
Speaker 4: way necessarily create legislation or binding what the UN would
Speaker 4: call like binding.
Speaker 3: To be a bummer, But when is a call for anything?
Speaker 3: I did quote fingers there done much beyond. It's like
Speaker 3: a you know, move on dot org petition. It's kind
Speaker 3: of like a watch me do this thing.
Speaker 2: We kind of I identify what you guys are saying.
Speaker 2: I agree to some extent, but there's.
Speaker 4: Some real weight behind the name.
Speaker 3: And it's important to come out to your point, Matt,
Speaker 3: and defy the overlords in advance and you know, be
Speaker 3: the be the change. Right.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and it is. It is genuinely kind of
Speaker 2: a scary thing. Currently there are one four hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty one signatures on this statement. I believe you can
Speaker 2: probably sign it if you want to. It's got a
Speaker 2: list of all the people. If you're a faith leader
Speaker 2: or a policy maker, or if you're in the arts
Speaker 2: and media, you go sign it and you get on
Speaker 2: the list and I think it's really important that it
Speaker 2: is just a call to look at this stuff before.
Speaker 2: If somebody in a lab does it alone and has
Speaker 2: that eureka moment, let's decide that that's the eureka moment
Speaker 2: we want, and let's decide what kind of lab we
Speaker 2: want to create it in. And if you want to
Speaker 2: create it together giant oligarchs and corporations, well then let's
Speaker 2: do that. But let's not do it in secret before.
Speaker 4: We go into the ocean. Let's make sure the boat
Speaker 4: can float.
Speaker 2: That would be cool.
Speaker 3: Well, and I guess because it's so techy and so
Speaker 3: you know, exponentially increasing in its you know, capacity and capabilities,
Speaker 3: it's not treated the same as say, like a weapon
Speaker 3: of mass destruction would be treated. It doesn't have the
Speaker 3: same level of regulation because it's it's got this innocuous
Speaker 3: sort of surface to it. We're experiencing it largely as
Speaker 3: consumers with cute internet videos mister rogers, you know, skating
Speaker 3: on the halfpipe or whatever. So there's this sort of
Speaker 3: soft cell to the public as an entertainment item where
Speaker 3: a lot of people are like, how could that be bad?
Speaker 3: That just seems like fun, you.
Speaker 2: Know, or as a perceived companion or as a perceived
Speaker 2: helper who's gonna get that recipe for you, or take
Speaker 2: all of the information about a specific topic and collated.
Speaker 4: Ghost of a loved one who has passed, scraped from
Speaker 4: the data that they left in their life. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I well know sure, but well, people are about to
Speaker 2: as we record this on October twenty second. In fact,
Speaker 2: they're doing it right now. They're about to experience chat
Speaker 2: gybt as a browser, a full on browser experience, because
Speaker 2: chatchybt just launched via Twitter post use me an x
Speaker 2: post this thing called at liss, which is their browser,
Speaker 2: which will be chat GBT powered. It. It just says
Speaker 2: meet our new browser, CHATGBT at liss shrug and you
Speaker 2: can download. I see it, I hear it. I see it.
Speaker 2: And the concept here is that there's a sidebar that
Speaker 2: you can just ask it at any time for to
Speaker 2: do things that you would ask of chat GBT, and
Speaker 2: it's all going to be one experience. Oh Dylan, I
Speaker 2: don't don't let the video cameras on those monitors see
Speaker 2: you do that?
Speaker 3: You his eyes?
Speaker 4: Fine, I'll roll the eyes as well. So look, we
Speaker 4: know there's a problem here with any kind of top
Speaker 4: down technology mandate, which is that a lot of people
Speaker 4: have AI rolled out because it sounds good in boardrooms,
Speaker 4: but it also doesn't necessarily help the user experience. Like
Speaker 4: name any big company that has a forward facing thing
Speaker 4: that you uh, they're they're trying to push an AI
Speaker 4: functionality on you, like Amazon or Meta as their oh
Speaker 4: helpful AI search. And I remember getting really irritated and
Speaker 4: I'm miming hitting my phone. Yeah yeah, I from it,
Speaker 4: and I was like, opt out, opt out, How to
Speaker 4: opt out? Opt out? Opt out?
Speaker 3: Well, that's funny you say that, Ben, because a big
Speaker 3: part of the whole perceived AI bubble is the fact
Speaker 3: that the stuff isn't necessarily particularly productivity increasing.
Speaker 4: Well, this is a conversation that is continuing, right, There's
Speaker 4: so much more to explore. We know that there are
Speaker 4: more things on the way. I suggest an episode in
Speaker 4: the future. And also, Matt, you said something that stood
Speaker 4: out to me a little bit Atlas.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, the big thing I'm looking out for right
Speaker 2: now with this is to see whether or not Chat
Speaker 2: GPT's Atlas has a a rise the way Google Chrome did.
Speaker 2: Because you guys, remember we were we saw when Google
Speaker 2: Chrome launched, and how it's really taking over a lot
Speaker 2: of the web browsing that people do on a daily basis.
Speaker 3: I think we all remember being a part of like gmails,
Speaker 3: Beta state, it's just ubiquitous.
Speaker 2: Oh we're too old for this relevant That joke makes sense,
Speaker 2: but but really it does feel to me like, at
Speaker 2: least for a time, Chat Gibt's Atlas is going to
Speaker 2: take off in a real way, and and I'm really
Speaker 2: interested interested to see how that changes, even like how
Speaker 2: Google sends back results absolutely well, and.
Speaker 3: I think we've all struggled with some of these Google
Speaker 3: instant results being a little hallucinatory and a little bit inaccurate.
Speaker 3: I'm wondering if they're making any assurances or promises that
Speaker 3: it's going to be better versions of that, and then
Speaker 3: it will become the proprietary thing could even potentially eat
Speaker 3: Google's lunch.
Speaker 4: You see this in every kind of business, right there,
Speaker 4: there's a there's a field of there's a field of
Speaker 4: competitors that springs up seemingly overnight, just like the old
Speaker 4: legend of soldiers when you sow the ground with dragon's teeth.
Speaker 3: Yeah that one.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Okay, it's somebody gets it. Somebody out there,
Speaker 4: somebody out there gets please write an email US conspiracy
Speaker 4: a iHeartRadio dot com and validate your guy.
Speaker 2: So what other people may have clocked is that CHATCHBT
Speaker 2: called their browser atlas. And I don't know if you
Speaker 2: guys are like as creeped out and excited, and I
Speaker 2: don't know what to say, what what other word to
Speaker 2: use other than just I'm obsessed with three I at
Speaker 2: lias right now. And they called it chat GBT atlas
Speaker 2: And right now there is an interstellar thing whatever it is,
Speaker 2: probably an asteroid. Maybe a comment, well that's let's just
Speaker 2: go to abby. Three I at list did something really cool,
Speaker 2: uh and unexpected for a comment when we talked about
Speaker 2: this before a little bit. When a comment is entering
Speaker 2: into where the sun is often you get that thing
Speaker 2: called a tail. It's off gassing. When the comet itself
Speaker 2: heats up, if there's any ice, if there's anything in
Speaker 2: there that can melt, it shoots a tail off basically
Speaker 2: in the opposite direction of the Sun. That makes sense, right,
Speaker 2: Their solar radiation and heat hitting this comet, that's why
Speaker 2: it's outgassing like that three I at lis did the
Speaker 2: opposite It sent a tail towards the Sun. Why does
Speaker 2: it do that? How did it do that? Seriously, like physically,
Speaker 2: how could it do that?
Speaker 3: Unclear?
Speaker 2: So, guys, it is the craziest thing that this interstellar
Speaker 2: object had simultaneously a tail and an anti tail, so
Speaker 2: pointing away from the Sun, pointing towards the Sun. Then
Speaker 2: for a while just was pointing towards the Sun and
Speaker 2: now has turned into just a tail and it is
Speaker 2: headed towards Jupiter right now as we're recording this abvi lobe.
Speaker 2: He's our guy. He just posted on Medium four hours
Speaker 2: ago quote the anti tail of three Eye Atlas turned
Speaker 2: to a tail. The reason why this is so interesting
Speaker 2: is because if it were some kind of craft rather
Speaker 2: than just a comet, and it was going to slow
Speaker 2: down a little bit and slow its approach, it would
Speaker 2: eject stuff. If it was using you know, the types
Speaker 2: of momentum changing physics that we understand here on Earth,
Speaker 2: it would eject stuff towards the Sun because the Sun
Speaker 2: is pulling it in right with its gravity, so that
Speaker 2: would either slow it down or turn its change its trajectory.
Speaker 2: And then if it were making what do they call it,
Speaker 2: it's a there's a specific term for it. But when
Speaker 2: you're then you've changed your trajectory a little bit. Then
Speaker 2: you also have to push in the opposite direction to
Speaker 2: stabilize that change that you just made back into a
Speaker 2: specific trajectory or orbit. So there's still a chance, guys.
Speaker 2: I think it's still a four out of ten on
Speaker 2: the scale that Avlob put out that it could be
Speaker 2: a craft of some intelligence origin.
Speaker 4: I've been some let's go with anomalous origin. I've been
Speaker 4: super invested in this as well, Matt, so much so
Speaker 4: that I almost don't want to say anything until we
Speaker 4: do an episode on it. There's been a lot of
Speaker 4: scuttle but about who's reporting what amid the space agencies
Speaker 4: and heavenly observers, and I don't know, man, I've got
Speaker 4: so much more reading ahead on this one.
Speaker 2: Heard and that ends the saying we're gonna hear some
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Speaker 4: And we have returned with the last act of our
Speaker 4: weekly Strange News segment. Let's go back to X because
Speaker 4: we've mentioned X or you know, I think this is
Speaker 4: the most conservative opinion of all of us here on
Speaker 4: the show. We have unanimously agreed to just keep calling
Speaker 4: it Twitter, right, Twitter x FKA Twitter. Yeah, I'll tell
Speaker 4: you going to Yeah, so if you go to Secretary
Speaker 4: of War here in the United States, Pete HEGXATH and
Speaker 4: you check on his official account on Twitter FKX. On
Speaker 4: that platform, he recently posted the following or x the
Speaker 4: following tweeted the following, Uncle Jack and Miles, tell me
Speaker 4: you're supposed to say XT branding is a little bit murky. Yeah, agreed,
Speaker 4: agree with you, Noel. Anyway, here's what Pete said. Quote.
Speaker 4: The US military has a long standing partnership with Cutter,
Speaker 4: including today's announced cooperation with F fifteen QA aircraft. The
Speaker 4: news came through pretty recently. I think we all had
Speaker 4: eyes on this. There is going to be a Katari
Speaker 4: training facility created at an air Force base here on
Speaker 4: the contiguous United States, in Idaho, the Mountain Home Air
Speaker 4: Force Base in Idaho. Now we all kind of heard
Speaker 4: about this, right we did.
Speaker 3: We talked about it with a fellow we met on
Speaker 3: the cruise ship, actually, the guy who was in energy,
Speaker 3: remember oh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I called him mister Energy.
Speaker 3: But I think we all just immediately a little quid
Speaker 3: pro quo clarice the moment on our heads. Yeah, in
Speaker 3: the airplane situation, right, yeah.
Speaker 4: And I think originally when this first hit the airwaves,
Speaker 4: a lot of people were very reactive in saying and
Speaker 4: confusing the details a bit and saying, oh my gosh,
Speaker 4: foreign government is building their own military base in Idaho.
Speaker 3: Why.
Speaker 4: It turns out there is some precedent to this kind
Speaker 4: of stuff. The United States historically has imported local talent
Speaker 4: from abroad to train them up. I mean, the US
Speaker 4: is home to the world's most powerful and dangerous military,
Speaker 4: also the most sophisticated for now. I mean, the two
Speaker 4: largest air forces are both the United States. It's the
Speaker 4: US Air Force and the US Navy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, And we help train people all the time.
Speaker 4: School of the Americas. And this this hasn't always ended well.
Speaker 4: People are naturally being i mean Islamophobia side, People are
Speaker 4: naturally asking questions similar to the to what you raised, No,
Speaker 4: which is a very valid question. Is there a quid
Speaker 4: pro quote? We're trained Uncle Sam's training pilots on the
Speaker 4: heels of Uncle Sam buying an aircraft from Cutter. It
Speaker 4: was being gifted though, right well, we the taxpayers still
Speaker 4: had to pay for the whole thing to be broken
Speaker 4: down and scanned for surveill and yeah, yeah, it's a gift.
Speaker 4: You're right, and that's a good distinction as well. Let's
Speaker 4: go to ap news. Great article primer here by the
Speaker 4: journalist Rebecca Boone reporting from Boise. This is going to
Speaker 4: be new construction. They're at Mountain Home Air Force Base
Speaker 4: over in Idaho. It's going to be several buildings that
Speaker 4: will handle training and maintenance for these Katari pilots and troops.
Speaker 4: But it's apparently this is weird. We were talking about
Speaker 4: this off air before we started rolling. We wrote to
Speaker 4: the governor of Idaho several times. We haven't heard a
Speaker 4: response yet, Governor Little, and asked, you know, just very
Speaker 4: very objective questions for clarification. And we did that because
Speaker 4: there was a statement by the governor not too long
Speaker 4: ago where they said, hey, this has been in the
Speaker 4: works for a while. But me, Governor Little, and one
Speaker 4: of the senators from Idaho, we didn't know what was
Speaker 4: happening until we got the official announcement till the White House,
Speaker 4: you know, went to the press club. It was like, hey, guys,
Speaker 4: you remember Cutter and can you imagine the senator and
Speaker 4: the Governor's group chat.
Speaker 3: That probably interesting. It's one of those things where it's
Speaker 3: almost like I'd rather ask for forgiveness than permission, but
Speaker 3: I think the government often asks for neither permission nor forgiveness.
Speaker 4: Yeah. If you go to the Idaho that's well said.
Speaker 4: If you go to Idaho Statesman by Sarah Cutler, you
Speaker 4: can read an article called Idaho officials caught off guard
Speaker 4: by planned to train Katari Air Force at Mountain Home
Speaker 4: This Yes, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: So okay, given the history of the United States training
Speaker 2: other countries' air forces, specifically at this place, right, it's
Speaker 2: not that weird. What is weird is what we are.
Speaker 2: We already mentioned the gift thing, but also the strike
Speaker 2: that was wasn't Israel that struck Qatar? Yes, because they were.
Speaker 2: They said they were targeting Hamas the right, and then
Speaker 2: the administration, the United States Administration said essentially, if you
Speaker 2: attack guitar, you attack US. Now made a statement, and
Speaker 2: then they signed an official.
Speaker 4: Mini un kind of suguation mutual defense, mutual defense back.
Speaker 2: Right, That's why it feels a little weird to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I.
Speaker 4: Want to go back to the point raised there, because
Speaker 4: there is precedent here, not just in the general practice,
Speaker 4: but also in the specific location. As you said, since
Speaker 4: two thousand and nine, Mountain Home has hosted some pilots
Speaker 4: from Singapore. Right, it's not unusual to be loved by
Speaker 4: anyone deserve it, but it is it is worth remarking
Speaker 4: that there's somealidity to this. Objectively, you know, we have
Speaker 4: to look past the rush and the fright of conspiracies
Speaker 4: by noting, Look, these countries are buying American tech, very
Speaker 4: sophisticated jets that can be absolute beast in the sky,
Speaker 4: but they're also a surprise, kind of complicated to maintain
Speaker 4: and a little bit more difficult to fly than assessma skyhawk,
Speaker 4: you know, So you've got to have the experts teaching
Speaker 4: you how not to wreck your multi million dollar aircraft. Right,
Speaker 4: So that I think makes sense. And if it wasn't
Speaker 4: for the earlier quid pro quo kind of things going on,
Speaker 4: and then this might not be all that extraordinary. But yet,
Speaker 4: but yet, but yet, indeed.
Speaker 2: It's still I think maybe it feels even weirder just
Speaker 2: the way the headlines read on this. Yeah, when when
Speaker 2: it first hit a sub one of the subreddits that
Speaker 2: I frequent I just went, how in the hell is
Speaker 2: that a thing that's happening, Right, But then you even
Speaker 2: read Pete Hegsa's further comments like, hey, guys, this is
Speaker 2: the thing that happens all the time. We're doing this thing.
Speaker 2: We control the base.
Speaker 3: Don't worry about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so but give it's it's news outlets, in
Speaker 2: my opinion, attempting to get that quick reaction.
Speaker 4: I think one hundred million percent nobody checked the math
Speaker 4: on that statement that this is absolutely true. And it's
Speaker 4: also showing us a startling division or fracturing within within
Speaker 4: a political party in the US that generally follows in
Speaker 4: lockstep with itself. Right, we're seeing we're seeing the cracks
Speaker 4: start to show. Consider another person who has been who
Speaker 4: has been seen as quite a public voice in the
Speaker 4: current administration, Lauer, who also around the time this news
Speaker 4: got announced, said on Twitter x dot com quote, nobody
Speaker 4: wants the funders of Hamas in America being trained to
Speaker 4: fly fighter jets on US soil. A jahatist in a
Speaker 4: suit is still a Jahati. This is a threat to
Speaker 4: our national security. I I don't know this person. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and they're very much there's a lot of islamophobia.
Speaker 3: She is, and Trump has called her out by name
Speaker 3: as one of his biggest boosters, you know, in the media,
Speaker 3: and everybody is not considered her a journalist.
Speaker 4: Everybody's got their own path. It's not too late to
Speaker 4: become a right wing hatemonger yourself. Man, it's not over yet, Okay,
Speaker 4: So don't feel intimidated.
Speaker 3: Yeah, not trying to be divisive here, but I mean
Speaker 3: it's true on equivalent, many of the things that she
Speaker 3: has to say and that she exes out her tweets
Speaker 3: or what have you are quite hate filled, just objectively
Speaker 3: not the best.
Speaker 4: And I think we should also do an episode on
Speaker 4: the CIA bungling out there in Venezuela and now Colombia.
Speaker 3: I don't think I know about this.
Speaker 4: It's been reported in piecemeal, but while we're on while
Speaker 4: we're on conspiracies and a little bit of geopolitics and
Speaker 4: old hobby horse for me, you guys, Noel, I don't
Speaker 4: know if you heard this. The current president of the
Speaker 4: United States, Donald Trump, went on went public and put
Speaker 4: the CIA on blast on October sixteenth, and he said,
Speaker 4: you know, yeah, I'm authorizing CIA operations in Venezuela right now.
Speaker 4: We're also looking into land strikes.
Speaker 3: This is me doing it. My word is my decree.
Speaker 4: Which pissed off a lot of people at the shop.
Speaker 3: Well, they're channels, man, you know. And we've said this
Speaker 3: a million times. It just goes to show how so
Speaker 3: much of procedure and things that we have seen historically
Speaker 3: adhered to in American politics is just about people behaving
Speaker 3: themselves and staying to decorum, you know, and when you
Speaker 3: have someone who's willing to kind of, for better or worse,
Speaker 3: flout all of that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's trying to do like a gentleman's agreement thing,
Speaker 4: but then also had a little bit of a fig
Speaker 4: leaf by saying I can't give more information on the
Speaker 4: CIA operations because they're covert, which just doesn't hold water,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I feel like there's something
Speaker 4: crooked in the wind. It's an episode. Critics of the
Speaker 4: administration are saying that certain factions or forces really want
Speaker 4: a war before the next electoral cycle.
Speaker 2: And not just with Venezuela, with a lot of Caribbean countries,
Speaker 2: a lot of South American, Latin American countries.
Speaker 4: And anyone will do it's an open audition.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the day we got off the ship. You guys,
Speaker 2: there was another strike targeting a boat that is allegedly
Speaker 2: as according to the CNN, Colombian had Colombia nationals on that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh, it just seems like it's going to get bigger.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it seems like it's going to be on the way.
Speaker 4: So we're going to race to get the facts and
Speaker 4: look at the conspiracies and find out where it gets crazy.
Speaker 4: Moment regarding this, also shout out to our fellow conspiracy
Speaker 4: realists who enjoyed our post pandemic price hike conspiracy episode.
Speaker 4: Tyson and Cargill got to pay eighty eight million dollars
Speaker 4: to consumers in a lawsuit about beef price fixing, which
Speaker 4: is one of my new favorite crimes.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's better.
Speaker 4: Than stamp fraud. Now, you know I spent some time
Speaker 4: upstate fixing beef prices.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and fights.
Speaker 4: Fights, Yeah, if those were your two may things, boxing
Speaker 4: and like.
Speaker 2: Short rips, well, and beef like you're squashing.
Speaker 4: Frue squash of beef.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: I've kept this this last part short because we've got
Speaker 4: so much more to get to. We're still recovering our
Speaker 4: sea legs. So with this, we're going to.
Speaker 3: Bid you a do.
Speaker 4: We're off to octivigate and have some more adventures. Please
Speaker 4: tune in. We've got much more on the way. In
Speaker 4: the meantime, we can't wait to hear from you. You
Speaker 4: can find us on email, you can find us on
Speaker 4: the telephone, you can find us on the lines.
Speaker 3: Oh and Ben, I believe we are owed a list
Speaker 3: of remaining names of our fellow sailors that we had
Speaker 3: some meaningful interactions with on the Valiant Lady. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: we do mean meaningful.
Speaker 2: Let's start with this from Mary Bones, Paul and Sherry.
Speaker 2: They were awesome and betrayal Stacy, Michaela, Tommy and Tyler.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Let's also continue with some folks We're going to
Speaker 4: stick to like first names and nicknames. So let's let's
Speaker 4: run Robin Smithez so shout out to mister Energy. To
Speaker 4: Alison and Daniel.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well I got Victoria, Felipe, Ashley and Anika.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, we had David, Andy and Pamela. Also a
Speaker 4: happy birthday, Pamela. I'm not nearly a stuff with you.
Speaker 4: I only had Ashley. Shout out to Ashley.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Mila, who is always right You guys,
Speaker 2: remember Oh for sure, that's right.
Speaker 4: Cool Diva Anastasia, Oh wait god you found yeah and
Speaker 4: Mila other than that one might be broken.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 4: H shout out to James, Chris, Michael Hope and Deshaun.
Speaker 2: Chris and Melissa you guys met Chris the hug Dealer
Speaker 2: and Melissa swifey awesome and Jack and Nicole Oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: Dominique and.
Speaker 4: Dern, as well as Wanda, Kenda, Mitchell and Kendra.
Speaker 2: Heck yeah, Oh dude, I remember Victor, Jurgen and Gavin
Speaker 2: in the Red Room. Yes, that sounds freezy. That was
Speaker 2: the venue already played.
Speaker 4: Yes, we got there though, we got we got it in.
Speaker 4: Also big thanks to Malachi, Dianna, Destiny and Neery.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I have any more guys.
Speaker 4: Captain DeVaughn we mentioned earlier took us out to see
Speaker 4: the ship right.
Speaker 3: Not a hero and also the captain Captain who gave
Speaker 3: you all a tour of the bridge. I was indisposed
Speaker 3: at the time, but it sounded like a good time.
Speaker 2: Oh, Jim and Diana they had a anniversary.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, happy anniversary Jim and Diana. Uh and thank
Speaker 4: you yet to the Captain's uh Demir and Miran. Thank
Speaker 4: you to the great folks at Virgin Jamie especially. I
Speaker 4: feel like that's that's.
Speaker 3: True English gentlemen.
Speaker 4: That's a weird thing that happens to us though as
Speaker 4: Americans because we hear a person with a British accent
Speaker 4: and we yeah, like you teach me your ways. Also,
Speaker 4: big thanks to the Carlice, Oh huge thanks to it
Speaker 4: and the third Carly. The first two cars were with us.
Speaker 3: There's always a secret third Carly really.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no words to live by. They travel in packs.
Speaker 3: Well yeah. In the meantime, if you want to shout
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Speaker 2: We also have a phone number. It is one eight
Speaker 2: three three std wytk ah for someone a while, we've
Speaker 2: had all three of us doing that. We hope you
Speaker 2: say it at home every time here.
Speaker 4: When did we get because I remember pushing it as
Speaker 4: when we first got our voicemail line. When did we
Speaker 4: get our voicemail line? It was after we started the
Speaker 4: audio version.
Speaker 2: There's no way to know, Ben, there must there's probably
Speaker 2: a way archives somewhere, like we've gotten the first one. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and it was probably brocking a monster.
Speaker 3: I guarantee it.
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Speaker 4: we received. Be well aware, yet unafraid. Sometimes the void
Speaker 4: rights back. Now during our live show, which we'll hear soon,
Speaker 4: we hope, we had the fortune of holding an awesome
Speaker 4: Q and A with a lot of our fellow at
Speaker 4: sea conspiracy realist and there was one question we got
Speaker 4: which I wanted to take a moment to chew on
Speaker 4: before answering, which was this, You guys, remember it if
Speaker 4: you only had twenty four hours to live, what movie
Speaker 4: would you watch.
Speaker 3: Man, take it about this, this lo this this whole time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we haven't thought about it.
Speaker 3: Wait, they don't want to know.
Speaker 4: I did the worst thing though, because you guys remember
Speaker 4: why when you guys had these phenomenal answers tree of
Speaker 4: life and then what was the other one? Life is
Speaker 4: beautiful life? Yeah, and so I deferred and this says
Speaker 4: a great question. Let me think about it. Spoiler there, man,
Speaker 4: I am still thinking about it. But I do have
Speaker 4: to give a shout out to someone on the boat
Speaker 4: who had a very special request. Their movie that they
Speaker 4: would watch with only twenty four hours is Somewhere in Time,
Speaker 4: a nineteen eighty romantic fantasy drama film starring Christopher Reeve,
Speaker 4: Jane Seymour, and Christopher plumber Boom. You thought we forgot Melissa, Yeah,
Speaker 4: thought we weren't going to say Somewhere in Time.
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