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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn this stuff they don't want you to know. A

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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, my.

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Speaker 3: Name is Noah. They call me Ben.

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Speaker 4: We're joined as always with our super producer Dylan the

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Speaker 4: Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you are you. You are here.

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Speaker 4: That makes this the stuff they don't want you to know.

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Speaker 4: If you're listening to Strange News the evening it publishes, folks,

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Speaker 4: Welcome to Monday, October twenty seventh. It is Halloween week.

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Speaker 4: It is the most wonderful time of the year. And

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Speaker 4: also we are recording live together in person.

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Speaker 3: Can we get a booth still a boom boom boom? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: boom times. We love it. It's our favorite time of

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Speaker 3: the year. I think it's a lot of y'all's as well. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: The Monster Mash. Sorry, I've kind of sleeped a private

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Speaker 4: so the Monster Mash that's just really cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: That way is a song about wait, so it's a song.

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Speaker 4: About a dance. A dance, Yes, yeah, very met It's

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Speaker 4: like the hokey pokey almost but more thematic. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's like boom we we. This is not only our

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Speaker 4: first time recording together post adventures on the High Seas,

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Speaker 4: but this is also our first time really getting to

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Speaker 4: catch up before we get into strange news.

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Speaker 2: Now should we do that?

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Speaker 4: You want to catch up, you guys please?

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Speaker 3: When the last time we caught up, well, you know,

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Speaker 3: we spent some time together, some quality time, if I

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Speaker 3: do say so, myself on a boat. Remember that moment

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Speaker 3: on the other boat when we played the song We're

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Speaker 3: on a boat we did. Yes, that was a real

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Speaker 3: moment as well, and.

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Speaker 2: It was delightful, so fantastic.

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Speaker 4: Thank you Charlie, Thank you, Captain Charlie. We're also also

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Speaker 4: thank you to Tennessee for coming along with us and

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Speaker 4: putting up with our salute to you, sir, putting up

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Speaker 4: with our shenanigans.

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Speaker 3: Than to all our fellow sailors and the sailors we're

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Speaker 3: sailors now came to our live show about for me

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Speaker 3: to trangle. Yeah, believe we're going to be beaming out

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Speaker 3: into podcast land before.

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Speaker 4: Long, right, Yes, absolutely true.

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Speaker 2: We met several folks who actually listen and hang out

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Speaker 2: with us. In this world. But we hung out with

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Speaker 2: them for reals and it was awesome.

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Speaker 3: It was wonderful.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. We we started keeping lists of people to thank.

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Speaker 4: Do you want to do it at the end of

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Speaker 4: the show, or do you want to do it now?

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Speaker 2: Let's do it at the end. You got to let

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Speaker 2: do it all the way through to find out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 4: Captain de Vaughn, who was the guy who took us

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Speaker 3: Boat, Oh yeah, and then we also met the actual

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Speaker 3: effects captain of the Valiant Lady shout out Demir, shout

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Speaker 3: out Deputy Captain Maran, and accept my friend request.

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Speaker 4: You guys, so let's get to it right because they're

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Speaker 4: so we're so used to doing strange news every week.

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Speaker 4: We didn't want to leave you without a dope beat

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Speaker 4: this step two. But we had a run of classics

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Speaker 4: right as we were as we were traversing in our

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Speaker 4: maritime adventures, and a lot of stuff happened before we

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Speaker 4: came back to check in with our fellow conspiracy realists

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Speaker 4: about all the news strange and otherwise maybe we dip

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Speaker 4: our toes in with this one. Guys. You know that

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Speaker 4: butt breathing might soon be a medical treatment.

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Speaker 3: Finally, this is a big one funeral for me. It's

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Speaker 3: clearly we'll always top off the list of important news

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Speaker 2: But may I be the first to say, what the

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Speaker 2: hell are you talking about? Cox?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like our old butt light ad. The beer

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Speaker 4: is so good you could drink it with your mouth.

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Speaker 3: I love that we gave it to him for free.

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Speaker 3: I haven't heard him trying it out quite.

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Speaker 4: Yet, but there's it's probably a different market from us.

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Speaker 2: Is it like the South Park eating with your butt thing?

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Speaker 4: Similar?

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Speaker 3: Is it like butt chucking?

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Speaker 4: Is it like boofyeh? Similar to shout out scotus. So

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Speaker 4: it turns out that last year a group of researchers

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Speaker 4: won the twenty twenty four Ignoble Prize in Physiology for

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Speaker 4: discovering that, yes, many mammals are capable of breathing through

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Speaker 3: Give us a list, Yeah, is it?

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Speaker 4: We do so, TVG, TVD. We wanted to shout this out.

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Speaker 4: The Ignoble Prize, as we all know, is kind of

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Speaker 4: like the Raspberries for science or the Razzies.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, unfair, mean spirited, mean spirited. I think this is

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Speaker 3: important science that we're talking about here's today, I'm not

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Speaker 4: I think we both got close to it.

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Speaker 3: I can't remember.

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Speaker 4: That's a that's a word that's tough to pronounce, similar

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Speaker 4: butt breathing method to treat people with blocked airways or

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Speaker 4: some pretty awesome jokes about butt breathing. Cool.

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Speaker 3: They did not have to have the pen shoved through

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Speaker 3: or you know what I mean, you know the movie

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the improvised tracheotomy.

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 2: In this case, we're talking about intra anally administered oxygen

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Speaker 4: You got it, you got.

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Speaker 3: Let's move on.

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Speaker 5: For Kennedy accident there, real quick. Uh So, if you

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Speaker 4: Go to ours Technica. Excellent article by a journalist we've

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Speaker 4: mentioned in the past, Jennifer Olette, but breathing may soon

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Speaker 4: word from our sponsors, and then we'll get into even

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Speaker 3: And we return and Ben, you totally nailed it. The

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Speaker 3: This concept of the monster mash is about a song,

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Speaker 3: neither of those things. It is in fact a dance

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Speaker 3: because one cannot do a song. Never mention it Halloween.

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Speaker 2: It's just the monsters.

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Speaker 4: It's just the monsters, and the mashing monster is smashy.

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Speaker 2: I think we've mentioned this before on the show, But

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Speaker 2: if you're not aware of it, and you're not a child,

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Speaker 2: go ahead and search for Comedy Bang Bang Monster Mash

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Speaker 3: I don't think I've heard of one, so I'm looking

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Speaker 3: forward to that. And also shout out to where Wolf

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Tracy Jordan from thirty Rock, one of the

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Speaker 3: best monster mash parodies of what are the best sitcoms

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Tina Fey, Thank you Tina Fey.

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Speaker 4: And Louren Michaels.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sure, and Alec mister Baldwin, you know, I

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Speaker 2: just finished Destroiter's amazing. What a delight telling you guys,

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Speaker 3: It's such a good hang. Obviously huge Tim Robinson fan,

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Speaker 3: Your nailed. It's delightful. Yes, the report is clear.

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Speaker 4: Oh man, guess what You're in for a great ride.

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Speaker 3: I bring that up because produced executive produced by Lauren Michael.

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Speaker 3: He knows how to pick him and he seems to

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Speaker 4: Got kicked off SNL after like one season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, I mean, he's the reason the kids in

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Speaker 4: So we all know that Tim Robinson has his newest

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Speaker 4: I watched episode one The Chair Company, rich is Uh

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Speaker 3: but I've only seen the one, so I'm super into it.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna share conspiracy, a chair conspiracy, That's what the

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Speaker 4: We're super into it. Chairs have been on our minds.

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Speaker 4: And there's a story you found that, Matt, I don't

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Speaker 4: know if you were aware of this. I know nothing

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Speaker 3: Sure, this seems a little more, a little less like

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Speaker 3: You gotta lock down your chairs. Cafes got lock down

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Speaker 3: let's say, until proven, guilty of stealing over eleven hundred

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Speaker 4: Patio cafe exactly street side, and they all get locked up.

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Speaker 3: They usually get locked up with chains. We're talking plastic chairs,

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Speaker 3: we're talking metal chairs. The occasional wood chair you could

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Speaker 3: a functioning chair, would you? Would you? De Spain's National

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Speaker 3: Police said earlier this week that they had arrested seven

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Speaker 3: people suspected of stealing more than eleven hundred chairs from

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Speaker 4: My friend, we sit like kings.

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Speaker 3: And let's see. The estimated value of said stolen shares

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Speaker 6: They're chairman of organized tribe, one would hope, keyboard chairman

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Speaker 6: of the hewn down to make delightful dovetail joints on

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Speaker 3: How do you feel about an Iran dak not a fan?

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Speaker 3: I'm uncomfortable.

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Speaker 4: I'm okay with the vibe, I'm not okay with the

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Speaker 4: They do, and it's kind of like a papa song.

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Speaker 4: Like at first you're you're thinking, this is an interesting

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Speaker 3: Well, will help you out with that, there you will.

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Speaker 4: We just have to go to Romania.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, what the hell is a papasan Papaistan's like

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Speaker 7: Of, It's like it's the circular, Yes, it's it's a cupped,

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Speaker 2: Your home metals.

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Speaker 3: It's metal or bamboo, well usually metal legs and then

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Speaker 2: Okay, thank you guys.

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Speaker 3: They're not great, not super comfortable. They look and now

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Speaker 3: they're kind of coming back because they're a bit like retro.

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Speaker 3: They're like given retro vibes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like it would belong in a

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, are coming back? I hope so did they leave?

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Speaker 3: I think they maybe just got a little more niche.

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Speaker 3: Maybe there's a great waterbed subplot in it, Like this

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Speaker 3: I'm looking for the pun, but it's not there. That's

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Speaker 3: Her name's Tammy Carvey, forty five of Winandot, which is

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Speaker 4: I've mean, how many other people want exactly right.

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Speaker 3: So it told her that she likedly won about fifty k,

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Speaker 3: here's the interesting uh huh. The Michigan Lottery did have

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that could well become a superstition. And where it's

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Speaker 4: There we go, apples and apples.

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Speaker 3: Yes, exactly. And then the idea of is they're a

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Speaker 4: And we were using technology to create the folklore mythology

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and just to add before we go to the

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Speaker 4: Dang class act. I don't know if not to cast

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Speaker 4: I love that, Okay, some of it? Some of it

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Speaker 4: to pause for a word from our sponsors. But when

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Speaker 4: we return, we've got even more strange AI or LM

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Speaker 4: news on the way.

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Speaker 2: And we're back. Go ahead, And I was going to say,

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Speaker 2: turn off your phone, but you can't do that and

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Speaker 2: also hear this, So.

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Speaker 4: Turn off your phone in freestyle what you think we

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Speaker 4: would have said, and then email it to probably be

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Speaker 4: pretty close. You'll be pretty close, at.

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Speaker 2: Least disabled bluetooth. No way, that's probably how you're listening.

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Speaker 2: You know what, We just got to say it out

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Speaker 2: loud because these folks decided to at least write it

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Speaker 2: down and say it out loud and risk retribution from

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Speaker 2: what did we refer to them before the eventual AI

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Speaker 2: over the gods? Well, there are some people that are

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Speaker 2: risking that whole perpetual prison slash punishment.

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Speaker 3: Rocos.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is very smart, very influential people that have

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Speaker 2: decided to risk it. And this is coming to us

458
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Speaker 2: from Time magazine, written by Billy Perigo and Thallen Pilla.

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Speaker 2: I believe is how you would say those Here's the title.

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Speaker 2: Time is running out new open letter calls for ban

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Speaker 2: on super intelligent AI development. Now, it's important that we

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Speaker 2: say super intelligent AI development because this isn't saying ban

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Speaker 2: on AI development. This is specifically going to be talking

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Speaker 2: about the thing. I imagine we haven't read what the

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Speaker 2: statement is yet. I imagine it would be the thing

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Speaker 2: that we've talked about as AGI, the thing that is

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Speaker 2: far more intelligent than any one human.

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Speaker 4: Being, artificially generative intelligence, meaning that it's not going to

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Speaker 4: just scrape the Internet and curate knowledge. It will synthesize,

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Speaker 4: create its own thoughts, it will create its own code,

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Speaker 4: It can perhaps create its own version of Offspring Yes,

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Speaker 4: and have conversations that humans will quickly become irrelevant with it.

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Speaker 2: And at least unable to fully control, right. I think

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Speaker 2: that's a really important thing. So so first let's jump

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Speaker 2: to a list of the human beings that signed this thing.

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Speaker 2: We've got Steve Lum Yes, Steve Wozniak, one of the

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Speaker 2: co founders of Apple. Yes, Steve from early Steve Bannon.

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Speaker 2: Then we're aware of from politics and the campaigns of

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump. Lea's the early campaign of Donald Trump.

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Speaker 4: But he's very diplomatic, both of you.

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Speaker 2: You've heard his name before. He's kind of an important

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Speaker 2: person in the world.

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Speaker 4: So it eas double Steve.

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Speaker 2: We've got Paolo Benanti, who is an advisor, a direct

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Speaker 2: advisor to the pope. We've got Harry and Meghan, you

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Speaker 2: know them, guys, the Duke and Duchess. Yeah, We've got

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Speaker 2: a bunch of other human beings. We've got several presidents,

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Speaker 2: including Barack Obama and George W. Bush, the younger one.

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Speaker 2: We've got people like Stephen.

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Speaker 4: Fry Will I am your man, Glenn Beck.

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Speaker 2: Glenn Beck signed this thing. Joseph Gordon Levitt signed this thing.

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Speaker 2: Susan Rice, the National Security advisor under the Obama administration. Uh,

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Speaker 2: there is a huge list. You can read that list.

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Speaker 4: Oh, can I mention one other person. Please, you've all

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Speaker 4: Noah Harari, who I think is one of the most

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Speaker 4: qualified people to weigh it on this kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Well, besides will I am, but I hear you.

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Speaker 4: Besides besides, for that was my question.

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Speaker 2: Grimes signed it, you guys, isn't it She's always.

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Speaker 3: Been so pro AI and pro this kind of stuff.

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Speaker 3: Isn't that interesting?

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Speaker 4: And if you want to join these luminaries. Also, it

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Speaker 4: is an open letter, and we know what that means, folks.

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Speaker 2: That's right, it's an open letter. So if you want

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Speaker 2: to read the letter, we'll read it to you right now.

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Speaker 2: But you can head over to superintelligence dash statement dot

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Speaker 2: org and here is the statement. It's very concise. Ready, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we call for a prohibition on the development of super intelligence,

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Speaker 2: not lifted before there is one broad scientific consensus that

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Speaker 2: it will be done safely and controllably, and two there's

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Speaker 2: a strong public buy in. That means that there are

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Speaker 2: enough human beings on the planet that agree, Hey, it's

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Speaker 2: okay that you do that thing that could affect all

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Speaker 2: of us right right, right, and right now. It's around

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Speaker 2: at least according to some of the stuff that was

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Speaker 2: cited within the writing, here from Time magazine. It's around

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Speaker 2: five percent of people that say, yeah, superintelligence, let's do it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's not and that five percent is not

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Speaker 4: evenly distributed across the global population, not to profile.

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Speaker 3: And also, I mean there's people that is not in

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Speaker 3: their orbit.

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Speaker 4: No right, you know, like you, Let's say you're you're

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Speaker 4: living in a place that has already suffered from resource extraction.

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Speaker 4: You know, the closest computer is like several miles away

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Speaker 4: and another village, and your thing is, I'm worried about

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Speaker 4: how the crops are getting poisoned. And I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 4: that these people who claim they're the military protecting the

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Speaker 4: cobalt mine or whatever, I'm pretty sure they're just corporate goods.

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Speaker 3: Well, don't worry. It'll be close to you soon enough

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Speaker 3: when they dig up your rutebega fields and data centers.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, shut up. Shout out to one of the weirdest

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Speaker 4: sleeper hits by C. W.

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Speaker 3: McCall.

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Speaker 4: I made convoy.

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, of.

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Speaker 2: Course, And just to be clear, we do not support

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Speaker 2: that type of digging up of the rudebagas. Absolutely not

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Speaker 2: consensual digging. Yes, harvesting of rudabagas, that's what we're about on.

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Speaker 3: Food stuff so or perhaps decorative you know purposes.

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Speaker 4: Speak for yourselves.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, for Halloween, let me.

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Speaker 4: Was the original thing. Oh this, We're also going to

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Speaker 4: get walloped with emails from our fellow conspiracy realist sci

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Speaker 4: fi nerds if we don't. The but leryan Jahad from done.

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Speaker 4: This is in Frank Herbert's Dune. There is a concerted

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Speaker 4: effort to eliminate what they call thinking machines, the AI,

547
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Speaker 4: because they came close to collapsing galactic civilization. So this

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Speaker 4: is like a microcosmic version of what was predicted in

549
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Speaker 4: so much sci fi that the humans and the meat

550
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Speaker 4: mechs would have to ban together before it was too.

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Speaker 3: Pretty good track record of sci fi writers predicting the future.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I mean we also I don't know about you guys,

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Speaker 4: but I also cherry picked the heck out of that.

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Speaker 2: That the guy who made Laser Cats five, James Cameron.

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Speaker 2: If you heard of this guy, He's also made things

556
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Speaker 2: like I don't know, Terminator.

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Speaker 3: William, the idea of the Internet is a sentient being.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and Philip K. Dick, who succeeded despite his last name.

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Speaker 3: And despite his copious LSD concession I think that might

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Speaker 3: have been a because I could communicate with the yes, yes.

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Speaker 4: Yes, diministry return. Well, Matt, we know that the thing

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Speaker 4: about petitions and open letters of this ILK is that yes,

563
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Speaker 4: anybody can sign it, but it does not in any

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Speaker 4: way necessarily create legislation or binding what the UN would

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Speaker 4: call like binding.

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Speaker 3: To be a bummer, But when is a call for anything?

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Speaker 3: I did quote fingers there done much beyond. It's like

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Speaker 3: a you know, move on dot org petition. It's kind

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Speaker 3: of like a watch me do this thing.

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Speaker 2: We kind of I identify what you guys are saying.

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Speaker 2: I agree to some extent, but there's.

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Speaker 4: Some real weight behind the name.

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Speaker 3: And it's important to come out to your point, Matt,

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Speaker 3: and defy the overlords in advance and you know, be

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Speaker 3: the be the change. Right.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and it is. It is genuinely kind of

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Speaker 2: a scary thing. Currently there are one four hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty one signatures on this statement. I believe you can

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Speaker 2: probably sign it if you want to. It's got a

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Speaker 2: list of all the people. If you're a faith leader

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Speaker 2: or a policy maker, or if you're in the arts

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Speaker 2: and media, you go sign it and you get on

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Speaker 2: the list and I think it's really important that it

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Speaker 2: is just a call to look at this stuff before.

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Speaker 2: If somebody in a lab does it alone and has

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Speaker 2: that eureka moment, let's decide that that's the eureka moment

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Speaker 2: we want, and let's decide what kind of lab we

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Speaker 2: want to create it in. And if you want to

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Speaker 2: create it together giant oligarchs and corporations, well then let's

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Speaker 2: do that. But let's not do it in secret before.

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Speaker 4: We go into the ocean. Let's make sure the boat

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Speaker 4: can float.

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Speaker 2: That would be cool.

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Speaker 3: Well, and I guess because it's so techy and so

595
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 3: you know, exponentially increasing in its you know, capacity and capabilities,

596
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Speaker 3: it's not treated the same as say, like a weapon

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Speaker 3: of mass destruction would be treated. It doesn't have the

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Speaker 3: same level of regulation because it's it's got this innocuous

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Speaker 3: sort of surface to it. We're experiencing it largely as

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Speaker 3: consumers with cute internet videos mister rogers, you know, skating

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Speaker 3: on the halfpipe or whatever. So there's this sort of

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Speaker 3: soft cell to the public as an entertainment item where

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Speaker 3: a lot of people are like, how could that be bad?

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Speaker 3: That just seems like fun, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, or as a perceived companion or as a perceived

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Speaker 2: helper who's gonna get that recipe for you, or take

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Speaker 2: all of the information about a specific topic and collated.

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Speaker 4: Ghost of a loved one who has passed, scraped from

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Speaker 4: the data that they left in their life. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I well know sure, but well, people are about to

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Speaker 2: as we record this on October twenty second. In fact,

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Speaker 2: they're doing it right now. They're about to experience chat

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Speaker 2: gybt as a browser, a full on browser experience, because

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Speaker 2: chatchybt just launched via Twitter post use me an x

615
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Speaker 2: post this thing called at liss, which is their browser,

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Speaker 2: which will be chat GBT powered. It. It just says

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Speaker 2: meet our new browser, CHATGBT at liss shrug and you

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Speaker 2: can download. I see it, I hear it. I see it.

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Speaker 2: And the concept here is that there's a sidebar that

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Speaker 2: you can just ask it at any time for to

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Speaker 2: do things that you would ask of chat GBT, and

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Speaker 2: it's all going to be one experience. Oh Dylan, I

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Speaker 2: don't don't let the video cameras on those monitors see

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Speaker 2: you do that?

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Speaker 3: You his eyes?

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Speaker 4: Fine, I'll roll the eyes as well. So look, we

627
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Speaker 4: know there's a problem here with any kind of top

628
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Speaker 4: down technology mandate, which is that a lot of people

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Speaker 4: have AI rolled out because it sounds good in boardrooms,

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Speaker 4: but it also doesn't necessarily help the user experience. Like

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Speaker 4: name any big company that has a forward facing thing

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Speaker 4: that you uh, they're they're trying to push an AI

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Speaker 4: functionality on you, like Amazon or Meta as their oh

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Speaker 4: helpful AI search. And I remember getting really irritated and

635
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Speaker 4: I'm miming hitting my phone. Yeah yeah, I from it,

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Speaker 4: and I was like, opt out, opt out, How to

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Speaker 4: opt out? Opt out? Opt out?

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Speaker 3: Well, that's funny you say that, Ben, because a big

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Speaker 3: part of the whole perceived AI bubble is the fact

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Speaker 3: that the stuff isn't necessarily particularly productivity increasing.

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Speaker 4: Well, this is a conversation that is continuing, right, There's

642
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Speaker 4: so much more to explore. We know that there are

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Speaker 4: more things on the way. I suggest an episode in

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Speaker 4: the future. And also, Matt, you said something that stood

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Speaker 4: out to me a little bit Atlas.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, the big thing I'm looking out for right

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Speaker 2: now with this is to see whether or not Chat

648
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Speaker 2: GPT's Atlas has a a rise the way Google Chrome did.

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Speaker 2: Because you guys, remember we were we saw when Google

650
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Speaker 2: Chrome launched, and how it's really taking over a lot

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Speaker 2: of the web browsing that people do on a daily basis.

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Speaker 3: I think we all remember being a part of like gmails,

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Speaker 3: Beta state, it's just ubiquitous.

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Speaker 2: Oh we're too old for this relevant That joke makes sense,

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Speaker 2: but but really it does feel to me like, at

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Speaker 2: least for a time, Chat Gibt's Atlas is going to

657
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Speaker 2: take off in a real way, and and I'm really

658
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Speaker 2: interested interested to see how that changes, even like how

659
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Speaker 2: Google sends back results absolutely well, and.

660
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Speaker 3: I think we've all struggled with some of these Google

661
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 3: instant results being a little hallucinatory and a little bit inaccurate.

662
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Speaker 3: I'm wondering if they're making any assurances or promises that

663
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Speaker 3: it's going to be better versions of that, and then

664
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Speaker 3: it will become the proprietary thing could even potentially eat

665
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Speaker 3: Google's lunch.

666
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Speaker 4: You see this in every kind of business, right there,

667
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 4: there's a there's a field of there's a field of

668
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Speaker 4: competitors that springs up seemingly overnight, just like the old

669
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Speaker 4: legend of soldiers when you sow the ground with dragon's teeth.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that one.

671
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Okay, it's somebody gets it. Somebody out there,

672
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 4: somebody out there gets please write an email US conspiracy

673
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Speaker 4: a iHeartRadio dot com and validate your guy.

674
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Speaker 2: So what other people may have clocked is that CHATCHBT

675
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 2: called their browser atlas. And I don't know if you

676
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Speaker 2: guys are like as creeped out and excited, and I

677
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: don't know what to say, what what other word to

678
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 2: use other than just I'm obsessed with three I at

679
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Speaker 2: lias right now. And they called it chat GBT atlas

680
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 2: And right now there is an interstellar thing whatever it is,

681
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 2: probably an asteroid. Maybe a comment, well that's let's just

682
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 2: go to abby. Three I at list did something really cool,

683
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 2: uh and unexpected for a comment when we talked about

684
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 2: this before a little bit. When a comment is entering

685
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 2: into where the sun is often you get that thing

686
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 2: called a tail. It's off gassing. When the comet itself

687
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 2: heats up, if there's any ice, if there's anything in

688
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 2: there that can melt, it shoots a tail off basically

689
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 2: in the opposite direction of the Sun. That makes sense, right,

690
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 2: Their solar radiation and heat hitting this comet, that's why

691
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 2: it's outgassing like that three I at lis did the

692
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 2: opposite It sent a tail towards the Sun. Why does

693
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Speaker 2: it do that? How did it do that? Seriously, like physically,

694
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Speaker 2: how could it do that?

695
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Speaker 3: Unclear?

696
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 2: So, guys, it is the craziest thing that this interstellar

697
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 2: object had simultaneously a tail and an anti tail, so

698
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 2: pointing away from the Sun, pointing towards the Sun. Then

699
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 2: for a while just was pointing towards the Sun and

700
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 2: now has turned into just a tail and it is

701
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 2: headed towards Jupiter right now as we're recording this abvi lobe.

702
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Speaker 2: He's our guy. He just posted on Medium four hours

703
00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 2: ago quote the anti tail of three Eye Atlas turned

704
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Speaker 2: to a tail. The reason why this is so interesting

705
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 2: is because if it were some kind of craft rather

706
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Speaker 2: than just a comet, and it was going to slow

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Speaker 2: down a little bit and slow its approach, it would

708
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Speaker 2: eject stuff. If it was using you know, the types

709
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Speaker 2: of momentum changing physics that we understand here on Earth,

710
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 2: it would eject stuff towards the Sun because the Sun

711
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 2: is pulling it in right with its gravity, so that

712
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Speaker 2: would either slow it down or turn its change its trajectory.

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Speaker 2: And then if it were making what do they call it,

714
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 2: it's a there's a specific term for it. But when

715
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Speaker 2: you're then you've changed your trajectory a little bit. Then

716
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Speaker 2: you also have to push in the opposite direction to

717
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Speaker 2: stabilize that change that you just made back into a

718
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Speaker 2: specific trajectory or orbit. So there's still a chance, guys.

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Speaker 2: I think it's still a four out of ten on

720
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Speaker 2: the scale that Avlob put out that it could be

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Speaker 2: a craft of some intelligence origin.

722
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Speaker 4: I've been some let's go with anomalous origin. I've been

723
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 4: super invested in this as well, Matt, so much so

724
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Speaker 4: that I almost don't want to say anything until we

725
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Speaker 4: do an episode on it. There's been a lot of

726
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 4: scuttle but about who's reporting what amid the space agencies

727
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 4: and heavenly observers, and I don't know, man, I've got

728
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 4: so much more reading ahead on this one.

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Speaker 2: Heard and that ends the saying we're gonna hear some

730
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Speaker 2: ads and we'll be right back with more strange news.

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Speaker 4: And we have returned with the last act of our

732
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Speaker 4: weekly Strange News segment. Let's go back to X because

733
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Speaker 4: we've mentioned X or you know, I think this is

734
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Speaker 4: the most conservative opinion of all of us here on

735
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Speaker 4: the show. We have unanimously agreed to just keep calling

736
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Speaker 4: it Twitter, right, Twitter x FKA Twitter. Yeah, I'll tell

737
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Speaker 4: you going to Yeah, so if you go to Secretary

738
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Speaker 4: of War here in the United States, Pete HEGXATH and

739
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Speaker 4: you check on his official account on Twitter FKX. On

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Speaker 4: that platform, he recently posted the following or x the

741
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Speaker 4: following tweeted the following, Uncle Jack and Miles, tell me

742
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,720
Speaker 4: you're supposed to say XT branding is a little bit murky. Yeah, agreed,

743
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,720
Speaker 4: agree with you, Noel. Anyway, here's what Pete said. Quote.

744
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Speaker 4: The US military has a long standing partnership with Cutter,

745
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Speaker 4: including today's announced cooperation with F fifteen QA aircraft. The

746
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 4: news came through pretty recently. I think we all had

747
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 4: eyes on this. There is going to be a Katari

748
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 4: training facility created at an air Force base here on

749
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Speaker 4: the contiguous United States, in Idaho, the Mountain Home Air

750
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Speaker 4: Force Base in Idaho. Now we all kind of heard

751
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 4: about this, right we did.

752
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 3: We talked about it with a fellow we met on

753
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 3: the cruise ship, actually, the guy who was in energy,

754
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 3: remember oh.

755
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I called him mister Energy.

756
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Speaker 3: But I think we all just immediately a little quid

757
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Speaker 3: pro quo clarice the moment on our heads. Yeah, in

758
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,720
Speaker 3: the airplane situation, right, yeah.

759
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 4: And I think originally when this first hit the airwaves,

760
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 4: a lot of people were very reactive in saying and

761
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 4: confusing the details a bit and saying, oh my gosh,

762
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Speaker 4: foreign government is building their own military base in Idaho.

763
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Speaker 3: Why.

764
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Speaker 4: It turns out there is some precedent to this kind

765
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Speaker 4: of stuff. The United States historically has imported local talent

766
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Speaker 4: from abroad to train them up. I mean, the US

767
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Speaker 4: is home to the world's most powerful and dangerous military,

768
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Speaker 4: also the most sophisticated for now. I mean, the two

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Speaker 4: largest air forces are both the United States. It's the

770
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Speaker 4: US Air Force and the US Navy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, And we help train people all the time.

772
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Speaker 4: School of the Americas. And this this hasn't always ended well.

773
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Speaker 4: People are naturally being i mean Islamophobia side, People are

774
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 4: naturally asking questions similar to the to what you raised, No,

775
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 4: which is a very valid question. Is there a quid

776
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 4: pro quote? We're trained Uncle Sam's training pilots on the

777
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Speaker 4: heels of Uncle Sam buying an aircraft from Cutter. It

778
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 4: was being gifted though, right well, we the taxpayers still

779
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 4: had to pay for the whole thing to be broken

780
00:42:56,120 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 4: down and scanned for surveill and yeah, yeah, it's a gift.

781
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 4: You're right, and that's a good distinction as well. Let's

782
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 4: go to ap news. Great article primer here by the

783
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 4: journalist Rebecca Boone reporting from Boise. This is going to

784
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 4: be new construction. They're at Mountain Home Air Force Base

785
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 4: over in Idaho. It's going to be several buildings that

786
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Speaker 4: will handle training and maintenance for these Katari pilots and troops.

787
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 4: But it's apparently this is weird. We were talking about

788
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Speaker 4: this off air before we started rolling. We wrote to

789
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Speaker 4: the governor of Idaho several times. We haven't heard a

790
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Speaker 4: response yet, Governor Little, and asked, you know, just very

791
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 4: very objective questions for clarification. And we did that because

792
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Speaker 4: there was a statement by the governor not too long

793
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Speaker 4: ago where they said, hey, this has been in the

794
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 4: works for a while. But me, Governor Little, and one

795
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 4: of the senators from Idaho, we didn't know what was

796
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:12,720
Speaker 4: happening until we got the official announcement till the White House,

797
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 4: you know, went to the press club. It was like, hey, guys,

798
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Speaker 4: you remember Cutter and can you imagine the senator and

799
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Speaker 4: the Governor's group chat.

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Speaker 3: That probably interesting. It's one of those things where it's

801
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 3: almost like I'd rather ask for forgiveness than permission, but

802
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 3: I think the government often asks for neither permission nor forgiveness.

803
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Speaker 4: Yeah. If you go to the Idaho that's well said.

804
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 4: If you go to Idaho Statesman by Sarah Cutler, you

805
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,240
Speaker 4: can read an article called Idaho officials caught off guard

806
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 4: by planned to train Katari Air Force at Mountain Home

807
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 4: This Yes, yeah, yeah.

808
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 2: So okay, given the history of the United States training

809
00:44:55,440 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 2: other countries' air forces, specifically at this place, right, it's

810
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 2: not that weird. What is weird is what we are.

811
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Speaker 2: We already mentioned the gift thing, but also the strike

812
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 2: that was wasn't Israel that struck Qatar? Yes, because they were.

813
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 2: They said they were targeting Hamas the right, and then

814
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 2: the administration, the United States Administration said essentially, if you

815
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 2: attack guitar, you attack US. Now made a statement, and

816
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 2: then they signed an official.

817
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 4: Mini un kind of suguation mutual defense, mutual defense back.

818
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 2: Right, That's why it feels a little weird to me.

819
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I.

820
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Speaker 4: Want to go back to the point raised there, because

821
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 4: there is precedent here, not just in the general practice,

822
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,720
Speaker 4: but also in the specific location. As you said, since

823
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 4: two thousand and nine, Mountain Home has hosted some pilots

824
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 4: from Singapore. Right, it's not unusual to be loved by

825
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 4: anyone deserve it, but it is it is worth remarking

826
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 4: that there's somealidity to this. Objectively, you know, we have

827
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 4: to look past the rush and the fright of conspiracies

828
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 4: by noting, Look, these countries are buying American tech, very

829
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 4: sophisticated jets that can be absolute beast in the sky,

830
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 4: but they're also a surprise, kind of complicated to maintain

831
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 4: and a little bit more difficult to fly than assessma skyhawk,

832
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 4: you know, So you've got to have the experts teaching

833
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 4: you how not to wreck your multi million dollar aircraft. Right,

834
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 4: So that I think makes sense. And if it wasn't

835
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 4: for the earlier quid pro quo kind of things going on,

836
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 4: and then this might not be all that extraordinary. But yet,

837
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 4: but yet, but yet, indeed.

838
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 2: It's still I think maybe it feels even weirder just

839
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 2: the way the headlines read on this. Yeah, when when

840
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 2: it first hit a sub one of the subreddits that

841
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 2: I frequent I just went, how in the hell is

842
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 2: that a thing that's happening, Right, But then you even

843
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 2: read Pete Hegsa's further comments like, hey, guys, this is

844
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 2: the thing that happens all the time. We're doing this thing.

845
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 2: We control the base.

846
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 3: Don't worry about it.

847
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so but give it's it's news outlets, in

848
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 2: my opinion, attempting to get that quick reaction.

849
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 4: I think one hundred million percent nobody checked the math

850
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 4: on that statement that this is absolutely true. And it's

851
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 4: also showing us a startling division or fracturing within within

852
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 4: a political party in the US that generally follows in

853
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 4: lockstep with itself. Right, we're seeing we're seeing the cracks

854
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 4: start to show. Consider another person who has been who

855
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 4: has been seen as quite a public voice in the

856
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 4: current administration, Lauer, who also around the time this news

857
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 4: got announced, said on Twitter x dot com quote, nobody

858
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 4: wants the funders of Hamas in America being trained to

859
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 4: fly fighter jets on US soil. A jahatist in a

860
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 4: suit is still a Jahati. This is a threat to

861
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 4: our national security. I I don't know this person. Yeah,

862
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 4: and they're very much there's a lot of islamophobia.

863
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 3: She is, and Trump has called her out by name

864
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 3: as one of his biggest boosters, you know, in the media,

865
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Speaker 3: and everybody is not considered her a journalist.

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Speaker 4: Everybody's got their own path. It's not too late to

867
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 4: become a right wing hatemonger yourself. Man, it's not over yet, Okay,

868
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 4: So don't feel intimidated.

869
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Speaker 3: Yeah, not trying to be divisive here, but I mean

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Speaker 3: it's true on equivalent, many of the things that she

871
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 3: has to say and that she exes out her tweets

872
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 3: or what have you are quite hate filled, just objectively

873
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 3: not the best.

874
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,399
Speaker 4: And I think we should also do an episode on

875
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 4: the CIA bungling out there in Venezuela and now Colombia.

876
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 3: I don't think I know about this.

877
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 4: It's been reported in piecemeal, but while we're on while

878
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 4: we're on conspiracies and a little bit of geopolitics and

879
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,240
Speaker 4: old hobby horse for me, you guys, Noel, I don't

880
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 4: know if you heard this. The current president of the

881
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 4: United States, Donald Trump, went on went public and put

882
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 4: the CIA on blast on October sixteenth, and he said,

883
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 4: you know, yeah, I'm authorizing CIA operations in Venezuela right now.

884
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,280
Speaker 4: We're also looking into land strikes.

885
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 3: This is me doing it. My word is my decree.

886
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 4: Which pissed off a lot of people at the shop.

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00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 3: Well, they're channels, man, you know. And we've said this

888
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 3: a million times. It just goes to show how so

889
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 3: much of procedure and things that we have seen historically

890
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 3: adhered to in American politics is just about people behaving

891
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 3: themselves and staying to decorum, you know, and when you

892
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:17,240
Speaker 3: have someone who's willing to kind of, for better or worse,

893
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 3: flout all of that.

894
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's trying to do like a gentleman's agreement thing,

895
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 4: but then also had a little bit of a fig

896
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 4: leaf by saying I can't give more information on the

897
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 4: CIA operations because they're covert, which just doesn't hold water,

898
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I feel like there's something

899
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 4: crooked in the wind. It's an episode. Critics of the

900
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 4: administration are saying that certain factions or forces really want

901
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 4: a war before the next electoral cycle.

902
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,240
Speaker 2: And not just with Venezuela, with a lot of Caribbean countries,

903
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 2: a lot of South American, Latin American countries.

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Speaker 4: And anyone will do it's an open audition.

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00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,439
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the day we got off the ship. You guys,

906
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 2: there was another strike targeting a boat that is allegedly

907
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 2: as according to the CNN, Colombian had Colombia nationals on that.

908
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

909
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 2: Uh, it just seems like it's going to get bigger.

910
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, it seems like it's going to be on the way.

911
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 4: So we're going to race to get the facts and

912
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 4: look at the conspiracies and find out where it gets crazy.

913
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 4: Moment regarding this, also shout out to our fellow conspiracy

914
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 4: realists who enjoyed our post pandemic price hike conspiracy episode.

915
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:38,280
Speaker 4: Tyson and Cargill got to pay eighty eight million dollars

916
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:42,439
Speaker 4: to consumers in a lawsuit about beef price fixing, which

917
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 4: is one of my new favorite crimes.

918
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's better.

919
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 4: Than stamp fraud. Now, you know I spent some time

920
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 4: upstate fixing beef prices.

921
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and fights.

922
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 4: Fights, Yeah, if those were your two may things, boxing

923
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:56,439
Speaker 4: and like.

924
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 2: Short rips, well, and beef like you're squashing.

925
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 4: Frue squash of beef.

926
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 3: Now.

927
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 4: I've kept this this last part short because we've got

928
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 4: so much more to get to. We're still recovering our

929
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 4: sea legs. So with this, we're going to.

930
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 3: Bid you a do.

931
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 4: We're off to octivigate and have some more adventures. Please

932
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 4: tune in. We've got much more on the way. In

933
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 4: the meantime, we can't wait to hear from you. You

934
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 4: can find us on email, you can find us on

935
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 4: the telephone, you can find us on the lines.

936
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 3: Oh and Ben, I believe we are owed a list

937
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 3: of remaining names of our fellow sailors that we had

938
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 3: some meaningful interactions with on the Valiant Lady. Yeah, yeah,

939
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 3: we do mean meaningful.

940
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 2: Let's start with this from Mary Bones, Paul and Sherry.

941
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:53,240
Speaker 2: They were awesome and betrayal Stacy, Michaela, Tommy and Tyler.

942
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 4: Yeah. Let's also continue with some folks We're going to

943
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 4: stick to like first names and nicknames. So let's let's

944
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 4: run Robin Smithez so shout out to mister Energy. To

945
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 4: Alison and Daniel.

946
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well I got Victoria, Felipe, Ashley and Anika.

947
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, we had David, Andy and Pamela. Also a

948
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 4: happy birthday, Pamela. I'm not nearly a stuff with you.

949
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 4: I only had Ashley. Shout out to Ashley.

950
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 2: Shout out to Mila, who is always right You guys,

951
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 2: remember Oh for sure, that's right.

952
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 4: Cool Diva Anastasia, Oh wait god you found yeah and

953
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 4: Mila other than that one might be broken.

954
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 3: Thank you.

955
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 4: H shout out to James, Chris, Michael Hope and Deshaun.

956
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 2: Chris and Melissa you guys met Chris the hug Dealer

957
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:48,720
Speaker 2: and Melissa swifey awesome and Jack and Nicole Oh my gosh,

958
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 2: Dominique and.

959
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 4: Dern, as well as Wanda, Kenda, Mitchell and Kendra.

960
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 2: Heck yeah, Oh dude, I remember Victor, Jurgen and Gavin

961
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 2: in the Red Room. Yes, that sounds freezy. That was

962
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:04,320
Speaker 2: the venue already played.

963
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 4: Yes, we got there though, we got we got it in.

964
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 4: Also big thanks to Malachi, Dianna, Destiny and Neery.

965
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 2: I don't know if I have any more guys.

966
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,399
Speaker 4: Captain DeVaughn we mentioned earlier took us out to see

967
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 4: the ship right.

968
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 3: Not a hero and also the captain Captain who gave

969
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 3: you all a tour of the bridge. I was indisposed

970
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 3: at the time, but it sounded like a good time.

971
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,280
Speaker 2: Oh, Jim and Diana they had a anniversary.

972
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, happy anniversary Jim and Diana. Uh and thank

973
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 4: you yet to the Captain's uh Demir and Miran. Thank

974
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 4: you to the great folks at Virgin Jamie especially. I

975
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 4: feel like that's that's.

976
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 3: True English gentlemen.

977
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 4: That's a weird thing that happens to us though as

978
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 4: Americans because we hear a person with a British accent

979
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 4: and we yeah, like you teach me your ways. Also,

980
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 4: big thanks to the Carlice, Oh huge thanks to it

981
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 4: and the third Carly. The first two cars were with us.

982
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 3: There's always a secret third Carly really.

983
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:10,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, no words to live by. They travel in packs.

984
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 3: Well yeah. In the meantime, if you want to shout

985
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 3: out or doesn't want to hang with us on the interwebs,

986
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 3: you can indeed find us there in multiple places, including

987
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 3: the handle Conspiracy Stuff, where we exist on Facebook with

988
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 3: our Facebook group. Here's where it gets crazy. Good conversations

989
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 3: going on there on x fk A, Twitter and on

990
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,240
Speaker 3: YouTube or we have video content galore for YouTube enjoy

991
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 3: on Instagram and TikTok. However, we're Conspiracy Stuff Show.

992
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,879
Speaker 2: We also have a phone number. It is one eight

993
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 2: three three std wytk ah for someone a while, we've

994
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 2: had all three of us doing that. We hope you

995
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 2: say it at home every time here.

996
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,399
Speaker 4: When did we get because I remember pushing it as

997
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 4: when we first got our voicemail line. When did we

998
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 4: get our voicemail line? It was after we started the

999
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 4: audio version.

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00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 2: There's no way to know, Ben, there must there's probably

1001
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 2: a way archives somewhere, like we've gotten the first one. Yeah,

1002
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 2: and it was probably brocking a monster.

1003
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 3: I guarantee it.

1004
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 2: Okay, but call the number. It's a voicemail system. When

1005
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 2: you call in, you've got three minutes. Say whatever you'd like.

1006
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 2: Give yourself a cool nickname, and let us know if

1007
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 2: we can use your name and message on the air.

1008
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 2: If you got something else to say, maybe with words

1009
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 2: one instead send us an email.

1010
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 4: We are the entities that read each piece of correspondence

1011
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 4: we received. Be well aware, yet unafraid. Sometimes the void

1012
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 4: rights back. Now during our live show, which we'll hear soon,

1013
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 4: we hope, we had the fortune of holding an awesome

1014
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 4: Q and A with a lot of our fellow at

1015
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 4: sea conspiracy realist and there was one question we got

1016
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 4: which I wanted to take a moment to chew on

1017
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 4: before answering, which was this, You guys, remember it if

1018
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,800
Speaker 4: you only had twenty four hours to live, what movie

1019
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 4: would you watch.

1020
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 3: Man, take it about this, this lo this this whole time.

1021
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we haven't thought about it.

1022
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 3: Wait, they don't want to know.

1023
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 4: I did the worst thing though, because you guys remember

1024
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 4: why when you guys had these phenomenal answers tree of

1025
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 4: life and then what was the other one? Life is

1026
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 4: beautiful life? Yeah, and so I deferred and this says

1027
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 4: a great question. Let me think about it. Spoiler there, man,

1028
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 4: I am still thinking about it. But I do have

1029
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 4: to give a shout out to someone on the boat

1030
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 4: who had a very special request. Their movie that they

1031
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 4: would watch with only twenty four hours is Somewhere in Time,

1032
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 4: a nineteen eighty romantic fantasy drama film starring Christopher Reeve,

1033
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 4: Jane Seymour, and Christopher plumber Boom. You thought we forgot Melissa, Yeah,

1034
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Speaker 4: thought we weren't going to say Somewhere in Time.

1035
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Speaker 2: We all wrote that down baby mcana Island.

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Speaker 4: Macanaw Island, No cars allowed.

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Speaker 5: Conspiracy.

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