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Speaker 1: the Mothership, will dive into what happened yesterday with DeAndre Hopkins.

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Speaker 1: got a pull question for us before we dive into

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Speaker 1: a couple of things here. I'm actually throw it over

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Speaker 1: to Paul. He's got a pull question. He's very excited. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's about Hopkins. But should I save it? Okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: let me dive into the story a little bit because

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Speaker 1: normally in the offseason, whenever you hear a wide receiver's

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Speaker 1: they got traded or both. But yesterday DeAndre Hopkins was

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Speaker 1: in the news and it had nothing to do with

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Speaker 1: the contract and nothing to do with the trade. He'll

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Speaker 1: be forced to miss Arizona's first six games. He violated

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Speaker 1: the NFL's drug policy. Still able to play in a

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Speaker 1: majority of the games. But you have to look at this.

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Speaker 1: If you're Arizona, you're trying to have Kyler Murray stay

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Speaker 1: you traded for Hollywood Brown, his former college teammate. And

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Speaker 1: now you have DeAndre Hopkins who was not going to

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Speaker 1: be able to play, and you play in a very

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Speaker 1: a good team in rams are the defending champs. Murray's

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Speaker 1: QBR dropped sixteen points without Hopkins on the field last season,

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Speaker 1: with the Cardinals average eleven points less per game when

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Speaker 1: Hopkins wasn't playing in the final five games. I'm guessing

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Speaker 1: Arizona saw this coming. That's why they added Hollywood Brown

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Speaker 1: last Thursday. But that's a tough division and the loss

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Speaker 1: of Hopkins could put the Cards at a huge disadvantage

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Speaker 1: to start the season. And I start to think about

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Speaker 1: these things. You know, in the NFL, it's rare when

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Speaker 1: a star gets popped. Rodney Harrison, who's a Hall of

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Trying to think who else. Julius

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Speaker 1: Peppers his second year in the league, and he's probably

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Speaker 1: going to go to the Hall of Fame. And you know,

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Speaker 1: they're varying degrees of what they test positive for. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what DeAndre Hopkins tested positive for, but these

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Speaker 1: guys spend a lot of money on their health, their

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Speaker 1: to help them. I'm assuming DeAndre Hopkins has that person

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Speaker 1: or those people. Well, do you just take something randomly?

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Speaker 1: Is this something different? Was he taking something coming back

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Speaker 1: enhancing drugs because they enhance your performance. That's why. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if DeAndre Hopkins this was a one off

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Speaker 1: the impact coming back from an injury, or it's truly

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Speaker 1: performance enhancing. But I just want to know how did

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Speaker 1: you get it? What happened? Did you run it by

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Speaker 1: the team? You can run it by the league. You

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Speaker 1: can say to the league, hey, I'm taking this. I

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Speaker 1: still think that the league needs to come up, come

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Speaker 1: out with their own products, like these are our products.

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Speaker 1: If you want to use these kind of products, you

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Speaker 1: in NASCAR uses the same gasoline. So if you're the NFL,

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Speaker 1: is this going to hurt you? I don't know, maybe,

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Speaker 1: golfers who are using steroids. They're like, how could that

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Speaker 1: Sure hh, yes, there's big money. I mean you're talking

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Speaker 1: a guy who makes twenty five twenty million dollars a year,

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Speaker 1: so he's gonna lose six paychecks now, all right, you're

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Speaker 1: But there are guys still using, still figuring out a

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Speaker 1: struggling to make the team. Here's a Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: do the Hey, I didn't know what I was putting

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Speaker 1: love to hear a player go, yeah, yeah, I used it.

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Speaker 1: You got me. It's always I'm shocked that I tested

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Speaker 1: positive here, Yes, Paul. But let's say you're DeAndre Hopkins

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Speaker 1: Dan and you've had the same trainer for a while now,

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Speaker 1: and your guy just fixes your shakes in the morning.

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Speaker 1: Then you run off to the facility of blah blah

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Speaker 1: you trust the guy? Maybe that's worth been working for

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Speaker 1: then I would take it without asking to any questions.

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Speaker 1: And he says it's approved. Not one of those. Oh,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know if it's gonna you know, you're

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Speaker 1: here's the pole question. You got to pick one of

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Speaker 1: these three no offense. Uh DeAndre Hopkins accidentally took unapproved pds.

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Speaker 1: One of his guys messed up, okay, knowingly took pds

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Speaker 1: indict him or he'snorate him. You know, maybe it was accidental, maybe,

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Speaker 1: get something and you're trying something and it's something different.

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Speaker 1: Also is he taking it? He tested positive, but back

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Speaker 1: in November did he get in when did he get injured?

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you're trying something to come back

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Paul. All right, here's another poll question. Okay,

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Speaker 1: if DeAndre Hopkins does not get pop for PDS, what

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Speaker 1: team is Hollywood Brown on right now? Can you imagine that? Well,

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Speaker 1: he wanted out of Baltimore, what was it? Was there

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Speaker 1: a big new market for him? They paid a lot,

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Speaker 1: And I wonder if the Arizona Cardos would have paid

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Speaker 1: right yeah? If he if they didn't know they were

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe, But but he did one out of Baltimore

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Speaker 1: if Kyler Murray goes, hey, you probably play your cards

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Speaker 1: pun intended, thank you, Todd, and that you play your

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Speaker 1: I don't know, yes, he couldn't they have found somebody

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Speaker 1: else in the draft to drop five balls a game. Wow,

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Speaker 1: forget what they called me. I think he had ninety

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Speaker 1: two catches last year? Does that sound right for a

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Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown? So he's not a home run there? He

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Speaker 1: had six touchdowns. I guess. So what he's saying is

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Speaker 1: talking haird do your own research? What else do we have?

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Speaker 1: What else do we have here today? Anything else? That

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Speaker 1: don't know if I want to do it, and I

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Speaker 1: don't like the wording that way. Accidentally took peeds knowingly

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Speaker 1: took peeds. I would just do those two about DeAndre

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Speaker 1: Hopkins cheater, unlucky builds are your options. He's either a

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Speaker 1: indeed right now, you should call DeAndre Hopkins and be like,

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Speaker 1: do you need help finding better support people around you?

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Speaker 1: You need indeed trustworthy training when you love one of

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Speaker 1: these athletes. One day instead of an Instagram post that

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Speaker 1: I can't believe it took him this long to catchman,

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Speaker 1: I've been working it three years time. And if you're

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Speaker 1: remotely out of the ordinary, report doesn't need two sources

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Speaker 1: What are you saying that he needs I'm saying. I'm

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Speaker 1: saying that before you take anything, maybe besides your trainer

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Speaker 1: should go through it to make sure absolutely what you're

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Speaker 1: putting in your body is safe. I don't know DeAndre Hopkins.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what his you know, his system is

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Speaker 1: fail safe, whatever it might be. But I would think

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Speaker 1: one person whose job is to do this is enough.

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Speaker 1: Two sources is good in my business. One source in

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Speaker 1: his business should be enough. I would think, yeah, point,

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Speaker 1: I love that we critique athletes for not being careful,

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Speaker 1: and well, I would before I put anything in my body.

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Speaker 1: six years old. Phil Needle knows, Phil ned and a

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Speaker 1: gentleman named named Devin Leary of NC State a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: So those are the top guys for next year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll look back, Yeah, Seaton. It feels like mock drafts

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Speaker 1: are just Okay, what team could use a quarterback? The Panthers? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Is there any connection to the Panthers and their coaching

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Speaker 1: staff to any one of these quarters? Oh, they recruited

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Speaker 1: them out of heights? Okay, that I could see that happening.

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Speaker 1: It's like finding these loose connections based on team need

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Speaker 1: and like, oh wait, no, they know each other, so

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Speaker 1: I think that they could draft him. Every year, usually

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Speaker 1: about a month out, three weeks out of the draft.

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Speaker 1: I remind you, remind the audience that you're going to

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Speaker 1: get the truth coming up probably Tuesday or Wednesday, the

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Speaker 1: week of the draft. Let's choosing what happens, because that's

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Speaker 1: when the big boys take over and you find out

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Speaker 1: from the decision makers, not somebody who's hey, i'll watch

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Speaker 1: college football and I got a mock draft. Now, there

439
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Speaker 1: are a lot of analysts who do a lot of

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Speaker 1: homework here, but there are a lot of NFL writers

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Speaker 1: who are not watching college football vice versa. You're in

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Speaker 1: your sport, you know. Peter King famously says, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't watch that much college football. And you'll have

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Speaker 1: guys who watch college football and may not watch the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I get that. I don't know how much college football.

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick watches during the season. He's gonna watch a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of tape. But I think we're under the

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Speaker 1: There are times when you talk to a coach and

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Speaker 1: they'll go, did you watch you know a college coach,

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Speaker 1: did you watch the game last night Sunday night football?

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Speaker 1: And they'll go, no, didn't. Like they live in their

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Speaker 1: own little world. And speaking of college football, name image

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Speaker 1: and likeness, this is a big deal. We're starting year

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Speaker 1: two and I remember when they first came out with name,

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Speaker 1: image and Likeness, and I thought, Okay, you're gonna get

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Speaker 1: some quarterbacks, maybe some wide receivers, edge rushers. They're gonna

457
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Speaker 1: be able to make some money. This isn't where, Hey,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna give this guy twenty five thousand dollars, or

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Speaker 1: this guy gets to go to this restaurant whenever he

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Speaker 1: wants to. Everything that you sign under name, image and

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Speaker 1: likeness has to run through compliance with these universities. It's

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Speaker 1: a contract, and I don't know if we're going to

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Speaker 1: get to a name, image and likeness salary cap. But

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Speaker 1: when this first started, I had people saying to me,

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Speaker 1: you're overreacting to what these players are going to get,

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Speaker 1: and I go, you don't get it. Like all I

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Speaker 1: have to do is say that's an NILD. That's it.

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Speaker 1: Now we'll have a contract. But if I want to pay,

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Speaker 1: look at the number of offensive linemen drafted in the

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Speaker 1: first drove. So you can't go, oh, this is just

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Speaker 1: about quarterbacks. It is about quarterbacks. It's about every player

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Speaker 1: who can help you. If you have a billionaire or

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Speaker 1: billionaires plural, and they decided that they want to make

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Speaker 1: Texas relevant, gonna take a lot of money for them,

475
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Speaker 1: but they can go out and get in whoever they want.

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Speaker 1: You just buy an entire offensive line and you can

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Speaker 1: do it legally. Here's a couple of notes here, and

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Speaker 1: this is Sports Illustrated. A bagman tells Sports Illustrated he

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Speaker 1: witnessed an SEC bidding war for a prospect who was

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Speaker 1: an end four years, six hundred thousand dollars deal deemed

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Speaker 1: to be nil. One quarterback in the transfer portal said

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Speaker 1: no less than ten thousand dollars a month. This year,

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Speaker 1: Power five collectives will raise five hundred million dollars in

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Speaker 1: players salary pool marketed as nil. Get your head out

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Speaker 1: of sand, folks. Boosters, bank rolling teams, coaches are to

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Speaker 1: termiting nil income. Here's the baseline for a top recruit,

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Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars per year. That's where you start.

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Speaker 1: I just got information from a source who said the

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Speaker 1: fall right. There is a quarterback in the transfer portal

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Speaker 1: treating this like pure free agency. He is asking for

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Speaker 1: asking for two point five million dollars to start, not

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Speaker 1: even necessarily a big name. There's a wide receiver who

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Speaker 1: is asking for two and a half million dollars plus

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Speaker 1: Jordan Addison, wide receiver at Pitt. So don't sit here

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Speaker 1: and go, well, it's just quarterbacks. It's everybody who can

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Speaker 1: help you win. And now we separate the halves and

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Speaker 1: the have nots, and we get closer to that super

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Speaker 1: league with college football, and there will be the attempt

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Speaker 1: to have a ceiling on nil, a salary cap. These

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Speaker 1: are all things that somebody who went to the University

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Speaker 1: of Dayton and barely graduated figured out when they first started. Yes, Todd,

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Speaker 1: And at least in football, we already have the same

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Speaker 1: handful of teams before this all happened over the past

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Speaker 1: several years, the same six, seven, eight teams. Now it's

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Speaker 1: going to get a narrowed down even worse than it

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Speaker 1: already at husband. Thank you, Todd. Yes, if you're Jordan Addison,

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Speaker 1: the wide receiver from Pittsburgh, I would do the signing

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Speaker 1: day move. I would do three hats and a table.

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Speaker 1: And when you pick up the hat, it's the one

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Speaker 1: with the most cash underneath it. As a school, he's

511
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Speaker 1: going to pop it on his head. Sure, a safety

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Speaker 1: deposit box, open up the key. Could you put much

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Speaker 1: as in here? Oh there's only two point four million? Yes,

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Speaker 1: he so far, I haven't heard anything that I'm and

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Speaker 1: happy about. Yeah, so far, I haven't heard a single

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Speaker 1: thing that I was just like, whoa wait a minute,

517
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Speaker 1: that's messed up. Every single thing. He just said. I'm like, great,

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Speaker 1: take it. I hope you get more. Yeah, Marv. And

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Speaker 1: I think that also a lot of those uh like

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Speaker 1: mid tier or mid round guys that are trying to

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Speaker 1: leave after their junior years, they would just stay. You know,

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Speaker 1: maybe they're a big star in college, but maybe their

523
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Speaker 1: skills won't translate to the next level like they think.

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Speaker 1: And then they saying, hey, I'll make it eight hunter

525
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Speaker 1: grand here, let me just stay here another year. And

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Speaker 1: I remember people would say, well, how many jerseys do

527
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Speaker 1: you think they're gonna sell? Like here, you're lost, You're

528
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Speaker 1: you're in the ice ages if you think that that's

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Speaker 1: what's going on here. Yeah, Poling Tibo would still be

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Speaker 1: at Florida and I allan here around. He would have

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Speaker 1: taken a pay cut to go to the pros. I'm

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Speaker 1: not even joking. No, you're right. He would have made

533
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Speaker 1: three million a year to stay at Florida till he's

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Speaker 1: thirty years old. And he would have done that wind

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Speaker 1: up down there jump as he would have donated all

536
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Speaker 1: that money too to Jared. That would have been the

537
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Speaker 1: first time actually that the whole What if they gave

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Speaker 1: him a piece of ownership, How he would have gotten

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Speaker 1: a piece of the university to stay there. Yeah. More

540
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: those offensive linemen down south, they are gonna kill that

541
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: waffle house, Bojangle shownies all that. Come on, get out

542
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: of here, you're gonna Why wouldn't you spend money on

543
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Speaker 1: your offensive line, why wouldn't you give them two hundred?

544
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: Like is what is that count? Let's say you're giving

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Speaker 1: out fifteen million dollars a year to your university. If

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Speaker 1: you're a booster fifteen million dollars, who cares? But you

547
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Speaker 1: know pocket change that bragging rights is what you want

548
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Speaker 1: my university? Hey, I'm responsible for that guy. Yeah see,

549
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Speaker 1: I just can't believe. This is really naive of me.

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Speaker 1: I just can't believe that there's people who have money,

551
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Speaker 1: like that much money set aside, Like what's your booster

552
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Speaker 1: budget this year for me? Like Johnny Car dealership? Like,

553
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I set aside two million dollars every year

554
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Speaker 1: to illegally pay kids to come to my school. That's

555
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Speaker 1: the way it used to be. I just can't believe

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Speaker 1: people have that much money they can sit that aside. Yes,

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00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: a bagman tells were chillustrated he witnessed an SEC bidding

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Speaker 1: war for a prospect in a four year, six hundred

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars deal deemed to be nil. YEA bo I

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Speaker 1: go back to the first time I ever went to

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Speaker 1: an SEC tailgate. I think it was like an Auburn,

562
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: Alabama game. I was seventeen. This guy I was talking

563
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Speaker 1: to this guy. He looked like a well off gentleman.

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Speaker 1: He had one of those huge tour bus SUVs, right huge,

565
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Speaker 1: and I go, oh, yeah, that's cool. I go, you

566
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Speaker 1: take that camping too. He goes camping. I bought this

567
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: million dollars. You know, RV. I'm sorry, RV four six

568
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Speaker 1: home games because that's it, because we go to six

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Speaker 1: home games with it, and that's it. I go, you

570
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Speaker 1: don't go camping, you don't take it because because we

571
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: all do this, you got to have the best RV

572
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: in the lot. Well, Darius Rucker at South Carolina games,

573
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: he's got a caboose, yes, and and and so it's

574
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: all tricked out. There's a line of cabooses, like old

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Speaker 1: train cabooses by South Carolina and they look like band

576
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: caves inside. You've been there. Well it's it's and that's

577
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: for how many games each year? Six games? But he's

578
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: got a you know, a train car that's all tricked out. Yamar,

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Speaker 1: Are we going to an SEC game or a game

580
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: down South this year? And we could just talk to

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Speaker 1: Bagman and just have him won the show an io

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Speaker 1: show all like a meat Friday. Come on, guy, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but a bagman is different. He's just a businessman now,

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Speaker 1: like a bagman is not you know, the guy who

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00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: is in the shadows there. Now you can be front

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Speaker 1: and center. You can walk in with a briefcase. I mean,

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00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: you're not. You don't have to hide anything. That's why

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00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: it's be really hard to bring somebody up on illegal recruiting.

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00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you go back to what was happening with

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Speaker 1: Adidas and Nike at Kansas and uh, you know they

591
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: had wire taps there. Well, that's seems like ancient time.

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Speaker 1: come home, how hongry are you gonna be to go

633
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: out there and work and go get it? Okay? I

634
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: mean Dion's got millions and he needs these kids. He

635
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: doesn't have that sugar daddy there. I'm sure at Jackson State.

636
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: But this is just going to separate. You know, I

637
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: still look at it as are we going to have

638
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: fifty universities forty universities? Are we going to have a

639
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: super league? And in fairness to these smaller schools, you know,

640
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Speaker 1: let them have their own championship. Now we do this

641
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: for Division one and two and three in n AIA,

642
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: and maybe that's what we have to do. But this

643
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: is here, it's staying and how many schools are able

644
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: to go Hey, I can get a three million dollars

645
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: quarterback if I want too, agment, I imagine contulsive battle

646
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: with Alabama. No, not financially. Yeah soon, So this could

647
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: sort of start leading to a proper minor league football system.

648
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: Right if college in college sports is basically supposed to

649
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 1: you know, college footballs is kind of the minor league NFL.

650
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: You can have those bigger schools that have all this

651
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: money that's paying all these kids. The big sums just

652
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: break off into their own thing, and that's kind of

653
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 1: you have the football players go there, but the kids

654
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: who want to go to school and play football can

655
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: go to these ones too, and that get your college scholarship,

656
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: get all that free stuff. Great, good for you. Yeah,

657
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: when will the school start putting in the contract or

658
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: the when they middleman the contracts nil that you must

659
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 1: stay three years at our school to get this. So

660
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: if I'm the Alabama booster who signs the kid linebacker

661
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: in high school, yes, you get your own nil money.

662
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 1: As soon as you finish your junior year at Alabama,

663
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: We'll have two million dollars waiting for you. We'll give

664
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Speaker 1: you some money up front to pay for all this stuff.

665
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: But I want a true contract where you can't leave,

666
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: I would do it. I'd spread it over three years.

667
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: If I'm bringing in a freshman, big time recruit, I'm

668
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: going to give you a three year deal, and let's

669
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: say it's for five million dollars six million dollars. You're

670
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: gonna get a million first year, you're going to get

671
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: two and a half, and then you're going to get

672
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: the remaining amount in your third year. If you leave,

673
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: then this contract is an all void. If you are

674
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: first team All American, first team All Conference, you're a

675
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: Heisman finalist, like you can build in incentives, I guess

676
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 1: it just feels like there's no rules. It's the wild

677
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: wild West. And until we don't have a commissioner in

678
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: college football, well, we have a president of sorts. But

679
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: until you have that, you're going to have this and

680
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: everybody's going to take advantage of it. Until we get

681
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: to a salary camp for name, image and likeness. Yes, time,

682
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,240
Speaker 1: but even that won't be enough because if the penalty

683
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: is only you break the contract and you don't get

684
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: paid anymore. If some other school comes along and says,

685
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: all right, you're getting one, one and a half, two

686
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: or whatever, I'm going to give you one, two and

687
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: a half four and then so why, how does that

688
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: really stop anything from happening? This contract with a player

689
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: that all of a sudden, in the middle of that

690
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: contract he gets a better deal with another school. Oh no,

691
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's stopping it. But if I'm giving

692
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: you money, I'm not going to give you this amount

693
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: of money. I'll give you more if you stag, Because

694
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 1: what's going to happen? What would stop Caleb Williams at

695
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: USC just transferred from Oklahoma and he went one year

696
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden went into the portal.

697
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,240
Speaker 1: Let's say he had an unbelievable year, He's a Heisman finalist,

698
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden he goes, you know what,

699
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I'm going to stay here. Let me

700
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: just kind of see what I could get in free agency.

701
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: There are no rules. What if Georgia says, what's it

702
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: going to take, We'll pay it one year? That quarterback

703
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 1: could have happened. Mike in La, Hi, Mike, what's on

704
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: your mind? Hey Dan, thanks for taking my call. I

705
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: had a two part question. You know now that the

706
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: proverbial barn doors wide open on these nils. You know,

707
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 1: do you foresee a contract like Bobby Bonia is happying

708
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: in college football and B yeah and B do you

709
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: foresee them adding other things like NFTs and stock options

710
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: and other assets. I don't know. I guess everything's you know, available.

711
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: It feels like everything's upfront. It's not like you have

712
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: to do. I've told this story before. I played against

713
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: a player in high school. He was two years younger

714
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: than me, and he went to a big time basketball school.

715
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: He came home that summer after his freshman year and

716
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: he had a Mercedes two seater was it four fifty

717
00:40:54,400 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: sl And we all went blit blank, did you get that?

718
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: And he said, you know, they sort of gave it

719
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 1: to me. I said, they sort of gave it to you.

720
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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know how you sort of

721
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: get something. But he sort of got a car that

722
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: was brand new Mercedes. And I you know, when I

723
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: was in college, um, I and our team wasn't any good.

724
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: I remember one of our players got a you you

725
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: got a used car. It was like a used Monte Carlo. Like,

726
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 1: our team wasn't any good. In eastern Kentucky. We couldn't

727
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: even get new cars. It's like, uh, I gotta I

728
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,919
Speaker 1: gotta used Monte Carlo. All right, I'll take it. Yeah, Paul,

729
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: what if you're like, what if they did a thing

730
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 1: where you're nil money. Let's say you're a star player

731
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Speaker 1: and you get benched because of bad performance. Yeah, and

732
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 1: the person who takes your job just transfers right into

733
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: your nil money. I know that's insensively. I know. Do

734
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Speaker 1: I have to keep paying you if you lose your job?

735
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: Imagine if you paid Spencer Rattler seven million dollars to

736
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,239
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737
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 1: loses his job. You're responsible for that money because before

738
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,000
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739
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