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Speaker 1: Take a deep breath in through your nose. Hold it now,

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Speaker 1: release slowly again deep in heale, hold release, repeating internally

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Speaker 1: to yourself as you connect to my voice. I am

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Speaker 1: deeply well. I am deeply well. I am deeply well.

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Speaker 1: I'm Debbie Brown. And this is the Deeply Well Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Deeply Well, a soft place to land on

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Speaker 1: your journey. A podcast for those that are curious, creative,

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Speaker 1: and ready to expand in higher consciousness and self care.

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Speaker 1: This is where we heal, this is where we've become. Hey,

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Speaker 1: it's Debbie Brown. Welcome back to show. Shout out to

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Speaker 1: everybody that has taken some time recently to leave a

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Speaker 1: five star review and also just type up a quick

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Speaker 1: little rating. I really appreciate it. I had a chance

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Speaker 1: to dive into a few and just really grateful for

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Speaker 1: If you enjoy this show and are listening, I have

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Speaker 1: been thinking lately quite a bit about friendship. I think

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Speaker 1: we've been exploring friendship on the show probably for the

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Speaker 1: last four to five years that I've had this show,

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Speaker 1: in different ways in a different language. But I've been

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Speaker 1: thinking a lot about specifically the relationships that are important

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Speaker 1: to us but can also be challenging for us. A

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Speaker 1: we had doctor Shefali on the show who is just

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Speaker 1: I mean, my god. You know, one of the many,

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Speaker 1: many best selling books she has is Conscious Parenting. She's

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Speaker 1: just dynamic and beautifully expressive. And I remember one of

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Speaker 1: a tool to become, to become more yourself, to sharpen

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Speaker 1: And I believe that's God's divine design, which is why

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Speaker 1: so often we trigger each other, we love each other,

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Speaker 1: members like parents, siblings, lovers, relationships, friendships, working relationships. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's just endless. But that's how we learn, and that's

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Speaker 1: how we grow, and that's how we're able to very

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Speaker 1: and you know, some of us are able to see that,

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Speaker 1: space to not just evaluate ourselves, but grow ourselves and

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Speaker 1: You know. It's just such a divine, beautiful exchange. So

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Speaker 1: hope I'm not like getting too existentially crisis, ye and

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Speaker 1: all the things, but things I think about all day

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Speaker 1: an incredible book about friendship out right now. Please look

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