1 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: Pushkin. It's been fifty years since Black Sabbath released Iron Man, 2 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: but its guitar riffs are still some of the hardest 3 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: and darkest in rock history. While Black Sabbath is often 4 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: giving credit for creating heavy metal, none of its members 5 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: had the success or longevity of their original frontman, Ozzy Osbourne. 6 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: In the eighties, Ozzie successfully turned his Prince of Darkness 7 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: alter ego into a decades long career. With help from 8 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: his manager and wife, Sharon Osbourne, Ozzi's released eleven solo albums, 9 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: with seven of them going multi platinum. They also created Ozzfest, 10 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: a Tory metal festival that became a mecca for metal 11 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: fans everywhere, myself included, and of course, they had their 12 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: pop culture crossover moment with the reality show The Osbourne's 13 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,959 Speaker 1: on MTV. Ozzie and Rick Rubin first met when Rick 14 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: had just moved to la and the two became fast friends. 15 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 1: Their friendship eventually turned into Rick producing the last Black 16 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: Sabbath record, the Reunion Album from twenty thirteen. Ozzie's mostly 17 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 1: kept a low profile since then, but at seventy one, 18 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: he's back to making music. He has a new album 19 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: called Ordinary Man, it's his first solo album in a decade. Rick, 20 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: Ozzy and Sharon sat on the bus at Changing a 21 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: Lot to talk about the record and how a gift 22 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: from his father turned an ordinary boy from Birmingham, England, 23 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: into the prince of darkness. This is broken record liner 24 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: notes for the digital Age. I'm justin Richmond. Here's Ozzie 25 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: and Sharon Osbourne in conversation with Rick Rubin. They start 26 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: things off talking about the track Ozzie did with Post 27 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: Malone and Travis Scott take what you Want? Did you 28 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: hear the track as he did with Post Oh, he's 29 00:01:55,240 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: got to hear that. I'm Travis Scott's a big shot now. Yeah. Yeah. 30 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: When Andrew I did your song we Post He's great. Though, 31 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: he's doing great. I've was stunned that it's just him 32 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: on stage. It's not bad man, no nothing, just him incredible. 33 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: Ye tell me tell me your first memories of any 34 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: performance anytime you was the first time you remember being 35 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: on stage. I was in a band called the Prospected 36 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: because the singer was it was sick. I never do know. 37 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: We did a gig Birmingham fire Station. There's three three 38 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: firemen and a drunk in the audience. You think I 39 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,839 Speaker 1: was going to be shot. I was so nervous. Yeah, 40 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: that was the first thing I ever did we do 41 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: cover songs or oh yeah, blues stones, yeah, uh damn, 42 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 1: you know, and it was um back in. The whole 43 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: game has changed now when when we're there's no way 44 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: to playing that much anymore. And when we used to 45 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: go to Webb when we were Sabbath, we messed around 46 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: with different names. It was like a polkas blues band 47 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: Earth and then then we wrote the song Black Sabbath 48 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: and then Guisers, what don't we call the band? And 49 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: that was it. Then how did the band come together? Well, 50 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: I was it always you know aboutman called the Red 51 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: Ruby Geezer. I never did a gig with them. But 52 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: the only reason the gigs I had to pay, I 53 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: said Guizer, and I said I want to get out, 54 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: so do I. And shortly around actual Geiser and Bill 55 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: had a band called Mythology and they had been busted 56 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: for smoking dope. I had to break up because it 57 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: was like the curse. She used to go to the 58 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: same school as Tony and we didn't around school. It 59 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: was like high school. Yeah, and one thing I think 60 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: we started. We originally had a saxophone player and a 61 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: bottle bottle and guitar player like because it was like 62 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: the Fleetwood Mac that were that were around, but the 63 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: original Fleetwood Mac nothing what they ended up being. I 64 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: wished to go and see them. We n see John 65 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: Miles Blues Breakers. And there was a club in Birmingham 66 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: called I'm Anish Club now, but we used to go 67 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: in and we used to see all these different bands. 68 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: You know, I saw Candy Eat there once. I was 69 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: like an American banding Birmingham freaks out, how many how 70 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: many people would be in a club like that? Then 71 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: no Ah, great, there's seven hundred thousand and most. Then 72 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: there was a club, a few clubs in Birmingham. We 73 00:04:56,200 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: used to go with our van full of a quick 74 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: my just in case the band never made and we've 75 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: got any bank. We've gone played be Standing for Blands 76 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: or ten years after jeth Road Show the band amazing, 77 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: and then we played with Jets Hotel and Tony got 78 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: off with the gig and then I remember thinking, oh, no, 79 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: it's gone now because Tony was somewhere else for it. 80 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: I mean he still is. Yeah, it's nobody on the 81 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: face of the other couldn't come up with the riffs 82 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: like the King of the Riffs. Oh it's great, And 83 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: then you know it was just it's kind of we 84 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: all live. Did he ever play with Jethro Tuller, No, 85 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: what I think he did a couple of TV thing 86 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: He died a rock and roll the Rolling Stones, rock 87 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: and Roll circles, yes, which was a chary thing. And 88 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: then he died a couple of things. We wouldn't win 89 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: him too long and he came back and he said, 90 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: if we get out of stuff together, oh we can 91 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: do it. I was like fucking house. He left Jethro 92 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: to come back to us and that was a big job. 93 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 1: That was. But Tony's one of these guys he has 94 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: been told what to do, you'll do You'll fucking punch one. 95 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: I know that. You know I've seen him do it. 96 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: You know it's some he has been so I told 97 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: me have to wear hats and and but he he was. 98 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: But it was all Everything was new. Well, I mean 99 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,679 Speaker 1: we'd get in the van. We played the Star Club 100 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: Hamburg for residency, but we had nothing to lose. It 101 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: was exciting. Did people like the band right away or no? No, 102 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: we we we do like at the Star Club. But 103 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: it was a good training ground because you do forty 104 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: five minutes on and another band would you go different 105 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 1: every forty Yeah, so we do one that we blues 106 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 1: songs and Bill would do a job solver once said, 107 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: Tony would do a guitar us every one. I'd fuck 108 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: around doing all this stuff and climbing ladders, painting my 109 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: face and just generally pissing about, you know. But it 110 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: was a good experience, better than being in Birmingham unemployed. 111 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: I said. We just got b lived from hand to 112 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: mouth and it was fun. Any band that I've ever 113 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: been in the early stages of the band have been 114 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: the most fun because everybody's in the same boat. But 115 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: that remember, I'll remember Jim Simpson, the original manager sign 116 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: on the Wye down to the Fairies today Ferry. We 117 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: just stop off with the recordings to the region sound 118 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: and record them songs you've been doing. Probably just got 119 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: the set up recording went away two days like the 120 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: two six l seasons twelve. So just like the live 121 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: set we had the audience. We've been planning life. So 122 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: I remember coming back from Europe for Christmas and the 123 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: managers come over. I got the artwork to show and 124 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: back then to have the gate Pole album Sleep was 125 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: like the big thing. And when we saw that first 126 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: album Sleep, we're like, fucking, what is this? We right, 127 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: just seven album that was so cool. And then the 128 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: album came out and we heard the album with a 129 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: because when we recorded it, we never had the effects 130 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: like the thunder, the weird voice effects, and it was 131 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: just amazing. And then I'm in a club and I'm 132 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: my first advance was one hundred and five pounds. I thought, 133 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: I never thought, let's say that much money. So I'm 134 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: in the club and this guy comes. Just when he goes, 135 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: I said, he's got some good news to tell you. 136 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: As so what's that? This is? Your album entered the 137 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: British chart next week and someone was seventeen or something. 138 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: Are you winding me up? You're joking? And it remained 139 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: there for eighteen months. Time it was going ome and 140 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: down the chart which showed me had parent and went 141 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: straight at number one. I'm like, because he must as yourself, 142 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: you don't when you do. When you're doing something, you 143 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: like it, yeah, but when somebody goes, I fucking that's 144 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: that's all you need. But when somebody comes and says 145 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: your album's in the charts and everything's going one way, 146 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: and it was just it doesn't make sense. It's like 147 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: you don't believe it. He don't believe real. Ye, it's 148 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 1: like you can't accept it, you know why? Well I 149 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: did complain. Things started to look up and Sharon Father 150 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: one of the managers, then somebody else that worked for him, girls, 151 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: and it's just everything was up and up, but we 152 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: got ripped up royally by manager and badly. Remember the 153 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: first time you do a show where people really liked it? Yeah, 154 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 1: the first time they liked it, like like we did 155 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: a jump Pell radio show. Oh y, we hadn't even 156 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: recorded the more written the songs by that point people 157 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: started to when they album got in the chart. It 158 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: was like we used to play his underground clubs. Underground 159 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: then was what underground underground? But it was good word 160 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 1: of mouth. Yes, saw Black Sabbath in the first we 161 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: said fuck TV, fuck doing this. We were a people's 162 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: band calling and back in England then it was like 163 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: doing top of the pubs was a banging but we 164 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 1: all did it or eventually and it was just to 165 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: make the first something ms you could sabbably sell. Then 166 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: the drugs, the alcohol, the wives, the divorced and all 167 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: the trappings. You know, we found it the man who 168 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: was ripping us. Though we tried to manage ourselves, we 169 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: fucking clue and the booze started to get heavy. I 170 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: started to drink more, and Bill started to drink more, 171 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: and me and Bill and Tony and Gooze we just 172 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 1: got ugly. Now I didn't get good. There was no fight. 173 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: It was a band that we believed in what we 174 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: were doing at first, and then we got royally take 175 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: into the cleaners and we just thought, what's the poison? 176 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: And when they fired me, I thought, Sharon's Votom's managers 177 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: yet again, and I thought, we don't want you to 178 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: be getting sucked up all. That's what I was, And 179 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: I gotta be honest. At that point, I just said 180 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: I'm done. It sounds like it was already bad at 181 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: that time. Anyway, rememberable we ended up making music to 182 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: pay our lawyers fees. Yeah, And we all said to 183 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: each other many times what we needed someone like Sharon 184 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: or Father, somebody to come and say, hey, you need 185 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 1: to try yourself though, get your shit together and write 186 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: somebody to tell us what we what was wrong because 187 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: our egos, we're running the show in under the implant, 188 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 1: the drugs and alcohol. I just went to and Sharon's 189 00:11:55,320 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 1: officer got me up a partmagine in West La Parker Hotel. 190 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: I thought, I fucking last spling any money I got? 191 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 1: How old were you at that time? I was about thirty. 192 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 1: I thought I got that spinge. So Sharon comes O 193 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: away when sing, she goes. Listen as she goes. If 194 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: you get yourself to go, we want to manage her 195 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 1: because I was thought. I thought no one wanted to 196 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: manage a singer. Then I met Randy, and then then 197 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: another thing happened to me. How do you meet Randy? 198 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:32,599 Speaker 1: A guy called Dana Strum from Slaughter remember the bunch o. 199 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: Dana Strum was my original choice for a bugget. Sharon 200 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: got me auditioning people. I'd never auditioned anybody in my life. 201 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: Or I go, no, I don't like him. She will 202 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: tell him I got no, you tell him I get 203 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: it a woman so um Danna said, got me all 204 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: this guitar house. I was out to lunch all the 205 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: from I remember part one, I'm gonna I'm gonna bring 206 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: this one kid, and you got it's great, some m 207 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: three sheets to win. I'm in my apartment and he 208 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: comes in, this little guy who must have weighed one 209 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: hundred and five pounds wet. I mean he was like 210 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: like a woman. I said, Oh, you gotta be joking. 211 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: He's just hear me out. He's gonna come down to 212 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: my studio studio working. Hear him play. Yeah, oh go 213 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: ahead the studio. I'm thinking I'm hallucination. This kid comes 214 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: in with this little lamb. I'm blew my lights wow, 215 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: And you knew right away. I mean this kid was 216 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: like this kid was like someone else, always like even 217 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: in the fuck up sto you want a gig? I mean, 218 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: he was unbelieving. Then he came to England and I 219 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: was still married to my accent. He's just stayed with 220 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 1: me for leaving me in for a while and we 221 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: wrote Goodbye to Romans the first time we ever wrote incredible. 222 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: But then he was like it was like this. It 223 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: wasn't like he didn't get He wasn't a party. He 224 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: was a true musician in respect. He wrote music, you 225 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: talk music and he would give the opening bands lessons 226 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: on fucking finger chapter and what. But it was yeah, 227 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: there again, it was the early time. Then we got 228 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: successful in the fucking lawsuits. Sorry, agreed, but you know 229 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: it's for some reason. I've been out of sabbaths now 230 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: forty years, but it seems like the time that I 231 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: was with him seems longer than I'm being are. I 232 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: don't know what a is. Yeah, it's just it's such 233 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: a defining it's such a defining band. But we don't. 234 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: But when you're in it, yes, you know you you 235 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: love the adulation, you love the success, yes, but you 236 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: just go because you did it. Yeah, you don't know. 237 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: You don't understand what. I'll never forget about working with 238 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: you in that studio. Yes, you do this. Every time 239 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: I'd sing it, go Ozzie, I'd have to like nine 240 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: times you go Ozzie. That was great, Just give me 241 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: one more, Like how can it be fucking in that 242 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: fucking book? Yeah, that was fun. Yeah, we made a 243 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: good album. I was great it right, number one. That 244 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: was our first number number one in both solo and 245 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: big incredible in America. It was like number one in 246 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: thirteen countries. Yeah wow, I mean the album was called 247 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: thirteen number one in thirteen countries. But that dang, And 248 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: you know the first time. I remember the first time 249 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: we talked about making the Black Sabbath three about nineteen. 250 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: It was a very long time ago in that place 251 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: in a sunset yes for you and the other game, 252 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: we were saying you your yes. I remember we sat 253 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: in that room and all the members were there and 254 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: we talked about doing it then, and you had spoken 255 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: before before that separately Yes, yes, yes, And I remember. 256 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember this, but for me, 257 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: this was a big deal in my life. You came 258 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: to my house one night before before that house, my 259 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: first house in La You came late one night after 260 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: the Rainbow Yes, and we listened to Black Sabbath music 261 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: until the sun came up, and you performed a whole 262 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: Black Sabbath performance for me in my living room. And 263 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: it was one of the greatest experiences of my life 264 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: because I never got to see Black Sabbath became me. 265 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: Are going listen, You're gonna mind me a promise if 266 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: you ever get back wellecond but if you ever get 267 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: back with the boys, please let me produce an album. 268 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: You pop at different plays. I like that song maybe 269 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: the Student, and I don't know, I don't know what 270 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 1: we're doing but you can and you and oh the 271 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: extra tracks on the live album, you go, I like 272 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: that that one sucks and walks out, I mean, and 273 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: then I was the arkepts going in brick rooms. He 274 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 1: really wants to do an album. Yeah, it was fun 275 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: doing that. It was fun. It was fun worth that 276 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: and it's funny that we talked about it like fifteen 277 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: or twenty years before and then finally came to fruition. 278 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 1: Do you know, I was just tongue hundred the democ 279 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: what I said, you know something, Well, I'm a believer 280 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: in this. The amount of people on this plane is 281 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: and in a one lifetime you'll only meet a certain amount, 282 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: and things are meant to happen the way. It's when 283 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: I believe believer too. I mean when when I when 284 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: I was married to another woman, Yes i'd see Sharon, 285 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 1: I would go should we do? I was always a 286 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: track And it's amazing the why things turn out meant 287 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: to be meant to be. And you guys are incredible together. 288 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: Well nobody else could put up I'm not, but it's 289 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: just incredible. I look award to look down that road 290 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: and the things that happened. I just I can't believe it. 291 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: Sometimes seventy one and I'm just bude. Another album. Amazing, 292 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: so cool. The album's really cool. It's amazing when it 293 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 1: just comes together like that in a month I've done. 294 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: It's so great. We'll be back with more from Sharon 295 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: and Ozzie after the break. Here's Ozzie and Rick listening 296 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 1: to Straight to Hell, the first single off Azzie's new album. 297 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: That's great. Your your voice is ever eternal. It's like 298 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: it's unbelievable how much you sound like you all the time, 299 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 1: and how good it is. Amazing, so exciting to hear. 300 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: Ordinary man Alten's on this phone. Let's hear how did 301 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: that song come about? It just climbed out the first 302 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: song we ever wrote. It's so good. It's really good. 303 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: You know I signed to something recently. Most of the 304 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: best stuff I've ever done. Yeah, I just clime out 305 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: of nowhere. Amazing. Can you sit there for weeks and 306 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: weeks you think you're going now And some of them 307 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: I remember you telling me stories about the way Sabbath 308 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: would write, where you just jam and what Sabbath would do. 309 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: We're just jam on my pick, riff, shout and just 310 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: lincome together. And I just like stick of vocal now. 311 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: It was it was a good education because a lot 312 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,239 Speaker 1: of kids I've never heard of. It's a jam, you know. 313 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: Maybe it was a lot of fun, you know, absolute 314 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: Is it fun to make? Music's the best thing in 315 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: the world. Oh no, I don't know anything. Ye a 316 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: journey fifty years and we're so lucky we get to 317 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: do this. Unbelievable. I mean, I don't know where it 318 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: can I'm from, you know, But it's just I'm complaining. 319 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: That's amazing. I hear also, I hear like some of 320 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: the Beatle influence on the writing and the string parts 321 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 1: so cool. And if you sound and you sound the same, 322 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: which is what's so incredible. It's like you sound so 323 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 1: remarkably like you every time, and strong and fresh and 324 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: all of the there's so much energy in your voice. 325 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. I just do you just do it. I mean, 326 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: there's no nobody else in my family has ever been 327 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 1: involved in music in any way. I've come from stress 328 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: far with those siblings to have died. But no, he's 329 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: uh got any beautical Jack my son goes to me, 330 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: statusis I like the Beetles, But I don't see what 331 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: you're going about it, and okay, it's slightly imagine this 332 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: going to bed today in black and white and waking 333 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: up in Carla. That's what it was like. Yeah, and 334 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: he goes what I thought. I still don't understand. I said, 335 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: we in England were just I was like nineteen sixty 336 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: whatever early and the water ended fifteen years ago. We 337 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: changed that long and all of a sudden this band 338 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: comes out, which swamp the last thing we have do 339 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: that much matters in Germany and they were like fucking huge. 340 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 1: Do you remember the first time you heard them? Yeah, exactly, 341 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 1: tell me I got a transit transistor radio. Yes. Then 342 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: it was that they progressed to get over. I'm walking 343 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: down Posy Ministry. I'm about thirteen, and I'm leaning on 344 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 1: all his leading on the lamp post and fucking all 345 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 1: his pub songs and whatever. You're on the radio. Suddenly 346 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: she Loves You comes on. I stopped and it was 347 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: like I was awakened. Wow, it was like, holy shit, 348 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: I want with Paul McCarney to marry my sister. I mean, 349 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: it was just fantastic for me, and it was I 350 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 1: loved them. I absent my wed by a wall in 351 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: my bedroom was covered in anything with the name on 352 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 1: and anytime anything they put out you would be you 353 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 1: would get an immediately. I'd work delivering food, call or whatever. Yes. 354 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: And by a Beatle record, I mean it was fucking amazing, 355 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: which people go, you know, hut it out to some 356 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: people now, But the Beatles for me, were you other 357 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: than the Beatles? Were there other who were the other 358 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: things that really just let you up musically? Uh? The King, 359 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: the Kinks, you really got my l uh manfred Man? Yeah, 360 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: uh this down? Led Zeppelin? Yeah, I mean when we 361 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: when we When I first heard them first two Zeppelin albums, 362 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 1: it it was unbelieving. Really you were you already a 363 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: band yet or not? Yes? But were you remove about 364 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,479 Speaker 1: has breast behind them? I mean when I heard that 365 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: first Zeppelin album, yeah, one and two, Yeah, I just 366 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 1: put after that, I kind of lost you. The moment 367 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: could be we're doing our own thing. I was to 368 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: go drinking. We bought them a law, good guy. I 369 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: every drunk. Great when the show when you show me's 370 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: an asshole, I've been around you drunk. You you were 371 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: never an asshole? Oh not to not to me. I 372 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: never said I never saw I've seen you bad, but 373 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 1: I've never seen you unpleasant to be around. Hard my moment. 374 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I've had two wives, I don't know a job, 375 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 1: another job, the more fuck up your turn up to 376 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: a gig, Oh it's going to be crazy, gonna be 377 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: a good notice, which I remember there was a story 378 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: where one of you tried to kill the other. Which 379 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: which was it? Oh that one he tried to kill you? Yeah, okay, 380 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: how how serious was it? He had? He had a blackout, 381 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: as he had a blackout and it was really really serious. 382 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: But I knew something was happening because he'd been out 383 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: of it for like a week. So it was a 384 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: week of like experimenting with pills and alcohol and he 385 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: was just like on a roll. Yeah, and you could 386 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 1: feel it building. You knew something was going to happen, 387 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: and yeah, it happened. But then then he was good. 388 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: Had to go into treatment for six months. He was good. Okay, man, 389 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: I got drunk again. But you know, you know, you know, 390 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: they go, oh, I tried rehab. It didn't work. You 391 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: get it when you get it, if you but if 392 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: and if you don't get it, you don't get it. Yeah, 393 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: I don't to be honest with you, I have a 394 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 1: problem walking with that alcohol now, line with it. You know. 395 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: If I if I was okay, we got'll be still drinking. Yeah, 396 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: but I got so fed up, a feeling like crap 397 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: without it, you know. Oh no, No, I just must 398 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: have been six or seven out rehab three or four, 399 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: a few rehaps about fifteen, and then I just stopped. Great, 400 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: I'm just about any seven years now. Amazing. Congratulations our son. 401 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: He's what I mean, sixty seventeen years. Wow, he got 402 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 1: so bad seventeen I believe that it's amazing. It really is. Yeah, 403 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: watching a bit about him, I'll never never forget what 404 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: he said to me. We had a run such him 405 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: one day. So long as going now suck? What the 406 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: fuck are you always complaining about? You've never wanted for 407 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: a damn thing? Oh yeah, what about your dad? That 408 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: was a good fucking I just read fuck Jack Arms 409 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: so sorry because it's undeniable. Yeah, always there but not there, yea, yea, yeah, 410 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: that's what alcohol and drugs. You think physically there, but 411 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: you're not there. You might maybe at ark on the 412 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 1: fucking road. You know. We'll be back with more from 413 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: Ozzy Osbourne after the break, we're back with more from 414 00:26:55,240 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: Ozzy Osbourne. Any of the metal bands that you liked, um, 415 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 1: not really okay, Any any bands that came in the 416 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: week I didn't we good? I mean that last Black 417 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: Sabbaths it was pretty We had been fighting each other, 418 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: fighting the world, and now we're going down, so well, 419 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: I'd go, let's fucking get a bling. It was Carlot, 420 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: we're needing a break from you loved? I say, oh, well, great, 421 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: yeah for me, for me too. It's the Beatles and 422 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: a CDC are like blun Scott was a great singer, 423 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 1: great great Brian's all right, but I prefer Barn Yeah, 424 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: the Highway to Hell, the rhythm section, the way those 425 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: guys playing, I mean, diammed up a Black Sabbaths in 426 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy one. Thing Wow in Sydney, Australia. Wow. Great. 427 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: Did you know what time you saw me? Like you 428 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: knew it was special? Oh? I mean angers, To be honest, 429 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: I thought it's been a gimmick and a sash on 430 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: a short pack. But they when they playing, yeah, when 431 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: they fucking I mean, here's a guy didn't do all 432 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 1: this little all beyond the neck and all his fucking 433 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: he played me. That's what I like about it. There 434 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: ain't no one to touch Hanger's young for that groove. 435 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 1: Yeah down, you know when you can bang your head 436 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: all day and not get fed up. It's true. I 437 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: mean they worked the absolute but two that you said 438 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: about their rhythm section was brilliant. You just never had 439 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: any It's so the rhythm, rhythm, rhythm, it was always 440 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: so danceable. Yea, even you know, why don't we try 441 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: and do a fucking danceable kind of because we missed 442 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: the riff man. He could fucking come up wanted to do, 443 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: but that Sabbath would try and fuck things. Oh, I 444 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: mean what we would do be sending sound remotely commercial. 445 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: We throw a spanner in the work, all these fucking words, 446 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: the weird changes and that that wasn't my copy. And 447 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,239 Speaker 1: when they got gerald woodroupe and keyboard, I was like, 448 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: fuck this. Me and Bill used to travel together on 449 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: a GMC mobile home, which was looking back, we had 450 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: such a fucking blood it was. It was like a 451 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: fucking You'd get up every morning, you have a coffee, 452 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: glass of milk, a glass of orange Jude, and the 453 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:51,479 Speaker 1: Bill every morning altogether. Yeah, so I'd go, Bill, excuse 454 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: me for asking you this? What's the deal? We all 455 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: the what's the Rabby morning he was all the coff 456 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: if he wakes me up, the orange, excuse me out healthy, 457 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: the milk, put butts a line on my stomach, and 458 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: the Bill put me back to sleep. He had it 459 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: all worked out. So you and you rode on the 460 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: bus with Bills and and he was your your travel partner. Yeah, 461 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: and then would Geezer and Tony team up that would 462 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: be flying everywhere m you preferred the bus. B and 463 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: I were like close. I when when the actual encome 464 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: that got him to fire me? Wow, I bother were 465 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: surprised when they fired you. Now you know what to 466 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: be perfectly truths. I'd lost it. Yeah, I just I 467 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: was just, I mean, I go, why do you have 468 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: to fly off around the world to do nothing? Yeah, 469 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: isn't he I mean, I should say said At one 470 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: point I was going, well, Queen did this, this one 471 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: did though? We should do And I said, and I said, 472 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: one day, I think we've got a problem with the 473 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: bands that we want to influence and now influence in us. 474 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: Can we look at the way And I wasn't any 475 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: better than them. Oh that were any better. It was 476 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:16,959 Speaker 1: just we're like, we need we needed rescuing, but we 477 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: didn't trust anybody. I didn't want to do it anymore 478 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: with them. I was bored with the concerts. I was 479 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: bored with the recording. I would be poor bored with it. 480 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: I did. Wasn't into it, Yeah I was, But the 481 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: problem is where do I go? Yeah? I felt like 482 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: if you've had a life from where you come from, 483 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: it it's been up your fire everywhere you find great hotel. Yes, 484 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: and you know, I was thinking, if I've jumped, I'm done. Yeah, 485 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: I'm never going to do it again. And when Shannon 486 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: came out and said you wanted to marriagement, I was like, 487 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: why does anybody want to move? Fucking And then behold 488 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: it happened again. Amazing. And then because when I was 489 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: on my doing my solo thing, yes and we all 490 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 1: had a Matella was opening for me, I'd compass said, 491 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: just remember not a sorry, he's taking the piss out 492 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: of me, joking with me. I know why. And every 493 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: time I Compass e recon start playing Black Sabbath music. 494 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: Now I think you're Black Sabbath of their heroes. Yeah, 495 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't think people would commentary talking to 496 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: me about Sabbath all the time. I'd go, you like that, 497 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: I got paranoid, I am and warping. And then it 498 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: took on sing thing. You know, it got bigger than 499 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: we did. Yes, yeah, you know it kind of like 500 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: it's that's just kind of fair statement, the myth of 501 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: Black Sabbath, But we didn't really mean. Gauze is a great, 502 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: great lyricist, amazing and a great bass player. Oh for fantastic. 503 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: Nob to touch him. He's fucking fantastic in the band 504 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: building building his day was a great drummer Tony. He's 505 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: always going to be the great kids. No one to 506 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: touch him player. And to this day, I still don't 507 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: understand how he plays guitar because he's got no fingertips, 508 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: plays with plastic fingers. Yes, I don't know. I don't 509 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: know him. Chime and chili again, how do you know 510 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: when you're hitting the string? When you when you met him, 511 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: had he already lost his fingers? It was scored? Was 512 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: he think you couldn't even watch more? Sixteen seventeen and 513 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: the doctor said, forget playing guitar, You'll never play again. Wow, 514 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: only shroved le Bron. I mean he did not only 515 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: play it again, he fucking become one of the world 516 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: fucking best. I mean there's a man you know, when 517 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: he got diagnosed at cancer, what have I got to do? 518 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: And he will do with you. That's what he's. That's him. 519 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: Yeah you can. I mean I'm like, he's like, right, 520 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: what I have to do? Yeah, he's He's always been 521 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: lay very calm. He go if you don't panic. Hey 522 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: was the band really and we were all part of 523 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: the band, but he was the most irreplicable one. Oh, 524 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,919 Speaker 1: I don't hard to say, hard to say. I feel 525 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: like it's the four, the four together as well. Yeah 526 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: it is. It's like you could replace, you can't replace. 527 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: You can't you can't replace any of them. But you 528 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 1: don't know that because you always think online alcohol, bline, instrument. 529 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: But it's often the it's not who's best, it's the 530 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 1: combination together that makes It's like it's like if you 531 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: don't know, it's like if you're cooking something or garlic 532 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: is better, it's it's the recipe, yes, right, but it's 533 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: like you but you know, you always think it's you. 534 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: It's called in the band back cut. I'm playing this 535 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 1: when people will say to me, why did you always 536 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: sing on the side of the stage, I don't fucking know. 537 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: Just I don't know, just because Tony he's one of 538 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: the few people who could walk into this room, don't now, 539 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: and I would fucking feel intimidated. Wow. He intimidates the 540 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: fuck enemy. Wow. And he knows it. But when on 541 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: the album that we made last, I didn't get the 542 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 1: feeling that there was any you know, you know, I've 543 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 1: got the impression. I don't know what. I've never known this. 544 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: But he had his friend with him. I don't know 545 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: what the deal was with him, why he bore him. 546 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: Remember that guy he bought out with him? I can't remember. 547 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 1: He was the guy does his own work at home. 548 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean engineer, maybe producer, engineer, Yeah, 549 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: because he's one of he wants to fill every hole. Yeah, 550 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: and that's what just what happens, you know. So when 551 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 1: we first did the first album, we did it on 552 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: two four track machine bounced Over. Then we had eight 553 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: track there, we had a sixteen track, then we had 554 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: thirty two so one. But on that first album and 555 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 1: half Apparent sometimes only don't look forward track. You mean 556 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: him dubbed everything on the first album Bill drums were 557 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:24,280 Speaker 1: in mono and peas around. You just started playing bass 558 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: not longer. You know, it was just to play rhythm 559 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 1: in the robbery. But he just we just wanted to play. 560 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: He's a great player, great lyricist. Hey. It was just 561 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: you know, I supposing in fairs to say that the 562 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: chemistry and the recipe was a good recipe, absolutely, and 563 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: the tone of your voice next to the next to 564 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: the guitar, next to Tony's guitar, that combination amazing that 565 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: just happened. It's like it's a miracle. I mean, I 566 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: remember when we did Uh Volume four, which was originally 567 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: gonna be cool snow Blind, but the record well Warner 568 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: too drug orient tried to show Now you get fucking 569 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: gladly calling from I don't know how we used to do. 570 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 1: It's just I've tried writing that form with the bounds. Yeah, 571 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 1: because no, it's it's unique to that particular group of people. 572 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 1: And it when as soon as you guys came here 573 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:30,359 Speaker 1: and started playing, it's so unremarkable. It's like remarkable how 574 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: much it always sounds like Black Sabbath when you guys 575 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,360 Speaker 1: are together. It's like you can't not sound like you 576 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 1: could play a cover of someone else and it would 577 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: still just sound like a Black Sabbath song, an original. Yeah. Yeah, 578 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 1: But the only thing about the album word the video 579 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 1: is Bill wasn't playing. We'd have been still doing the 580 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: fucking album now, because it's funny because he almost was. 581 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 1: I remembered when we rehearsed with him and he was 582 00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 1: excited and then he sort of backed away. Yeah, from 583 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,760 Speaker 1: the rip up those He takes so much time over everything, 584 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,240 Speaker 1: and and Tony said to me, one day's not Bill's trouble. 585 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: He still thinks everybody's not ripping muffle, which I get. 586 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 1: I mean, Sharon's my fucking but I ain't no better 587 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 1: than Bill or any of them. I'm lucky to have 588 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 1: a wife who's on my side. Yes, because he's fuckers 589 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: man that would come in and give you all this bullshit, 590 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,359 Speaker 1: drive you around in a fucking flash car, show a 591 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: bit of money, and then you can sue them, and 592 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: it takes you a fucking lifetime to win. The lawyers win, 593 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: you gloss your start and your fuck and that's where 594 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:52,240 Speaker 1: they go. Sharon five was a ring now fucking rip hey, 595 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 1: you know, it's like I love my world. Now. I 596 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,839 Speaker 1: mean I've done some stupid things. He's will been weird much, 597 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: but sometimes you go, she must love me. Yeah, I 598 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 1: must be lucky to have someone that does love me. Yes, 599 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,240 Speaker 1: she well, he got stung for a lot of cash. 600 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: But then again, I said to Bill Ward one day 601 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: on the phone a little while ago. Now, I say, 602 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: you know what, in a way, for as far as 603 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 1: almost concerned, it was a blessing that I never got 604 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 1: all that cash up front, because with what cash I had, 605 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 1: with what cash I had, I don't know a good 606 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 1: joe and nearly killing myself. Yeah, I knew you'd Bill, Yes, yeah, 607 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 1: you're right. I wouldn't be sitting here. And that's for sure. 608 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,919 Speaker 1: If I got all the millions up front, we would 609 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 1: have been fucking dead. Yeah. Yeah, it's all good money 610 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 1: at the I mean, you get kids from a fuck 611 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: all one day and give them a million dollars. Fuck, 612 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. Have you ever gone 613 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,359 Speaker 1: back to where you were one train? You go? What 614 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 1: the fuck would I thinking? All the time. It's like 615 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: anytime I anytime I happened to tap back in or 616 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 1: see an old picture or something, and I try to 617 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 1: remember what that was like. It's like a different life. 618 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:14,360 Speaker 1: Oh no, it's like, why did I get there? From there? Okay, 619 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 1: I mean not. I was married, I had two children, 620 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: I was done. You know, I got a house, car, holidays, 621 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 1: somewhat bit a cat drink when I wanted to do 622 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 1: bit of dope when I wanted to do so, I 623 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:37,439 Speaker 1: thought that was you. Yeah, and then I thought I don't. Now. Look, 624 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 1: I mean, life's amising journey. Do you never know what's 625 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 1: going to come up? You know? Oh? This take this 626 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,279 Speaker 1: last year, I got to go to the bathroom, fell 627 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 1: on my face. I'm virtually crippled, totally. Guess it's approbably 628 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:58,720 Speaker 1: I snapped my well did something more spine. But then again, 629 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 1: I've fallen downstairs, I've fallen out of windows of fucking 630 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 1: this and that, and it's something stupid like I'm for 631 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 1: a bit, I'm falling on your face in the middle 632 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:14,399 Speaker 1: of the night. That's typical, ito, isn't heah Sides law. 633 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:21,879 Speaker 1: But yeah, I'll tell you what so many one said 634 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 1: to me, Oh see, what was the best gift you 635 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: ever had? I'm thinking, shambled me on watch, trying to think, 636 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 1: and then it fucking hit me. Had my father that 637 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 1: brought me a microphone, I wouldn't be here. Wow, my 638 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: father bought me a pa yes when you dead for it, 639 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,879 Speaker 1: and bought me a microphone, and that's caught me gigs. Yes, 640 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: I mean I never repaid him because I was so 641 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 1: fucking going out and I'm the king of the world 642 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 1: for fucking tenua. Then he passed away my mom. So 643 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 1: what I did? I well, okay, my siblings bits of 644 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 1: money in there. But it does seem like it's it's 645 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,399 Speaker 1: meant to be like I mean, I think my my 646 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 1: pearl dad went to work, comrade come shine at nights 647 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 1: the fucking as long as I can remember. And I 648 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 1: never fucking crossed his palment. I mean, he was still working. 649 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 1: It was fucked up, and must have he must have 650 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,439 Speaker 1: been really regardless of that. He must have been really 651 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 1: proud of your SI had to be. I uh. Before 652 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 1: I got five from the showers, I left for a 653 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:43,319 Speaker 1: short while, perhaps a month show. I went, I went 654 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 1: to the pre I love Davis anousment. I was such 655 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 1: a such am. I left black sabers. He went threw 656 00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 1: so he always back to you. He was a good 657 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 1: It sounds like good simple man. Yeah, he just I mean, 658 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 1: I only wish I wish he was sure. You know, 659 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:15,919 Speaker 1: sometimes I'll go to my own like, Okay, I wish 660 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 1: he was here for me to have a chat, like 661 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 1: I'm talking to you now, I'd love to have a 662 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 1: chat with him, and so many one situations. I'll never 663 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 1: get on with my father. But he's on his deathbed. 664 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 1: I don't know whether I should go and see him. 665 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, Whether you got something nice 666 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 1: or bad to say to him, do it now because 667 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 1: we're up the road. He ain't. Yeah, you're gonna kick 668 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,800 Speaker 1: kick your butt forever. Just say what you gotta say. 669 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 1: How's your relationship with Jack? Now? Oh it's great, it's great. 670 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 1: He's got three girls, he got married, he got fucking divorced, 671 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:55,359 Speaker 1: and I mean I love him, I absolutely, I love 672 00:43:55,480 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 1: My kids will take off me though, Oh fucking I'm 673 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 1: sponging up. But I got that. I go, what is he? Yeah? 674 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,279 Speaker 1: You actually your boy gets older? Yeah? Boys are cool. Yeah, 675 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:14,319 Speaker 1: girls will send you to a fucking learns. Because I'm 676 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 1: not joking. Jack goes, come on, let's go go on 677 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:25,720 Speaker 1: the shooting Ryan just an. But Jack, he's a great father, 678 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 1: he's a great he's pretty good hands on dad, yeah, 679 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:34,359 Speaker 1: which all I wasn't so much fucking hands on me, 680 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 1: get me back to bed. It's been great saying you're 681 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 1: Rick same man. A pleasure always and I hope to 682 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 1: see you again soon. Absolutely out and listen to music. 683 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 1: Thanks to Sharon and Nazzy Osbourne for stopping by Shangula 684 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,280 Speaker 1: to catch up with brick. Azzy's new album Ordinary Man 685 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,799 Speaker 1: is out now, and also be sure to check out 686 00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 1: hasy dot com to keep up with the Osbournes. You 687 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 1: can hear some of Ozzie's music by visiting broken record 688 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 1: podcast dot com, where we have a playlist available for 689 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 1: you to listen to. Broken Record is produced with help 690 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 1: from Jason Gambrel, Mia Lobel, and Leah Rose for Pushkin Industries. 691 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 1: I theme music's by Kenny Beats. I'm justin Richmond. Thanks 692 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 1: for listening.