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Speaker 1: Now here's your host, Jen Mueller.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to a I'm gonna call it a special edition

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Speaker 4: of the podcast, at least.

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Speaker 3: It is for me.

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Speaker 4: John Boyle, you know how excited I get to fill

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Speaker 4: in my paper calendar and it finally happened because we

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Speaker 4: have a schedule.

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Speaker 3: Are you as excited as I am?

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Speaker 2: I'm very excited. But I'll say every edition of this

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Speaker 1: Special, Jen, that's bad.

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Speaker 2: That's good for us to talk about football. That's always special.

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Speaker 3: That that's a good point. But I do feel like, well.

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Speaker 2: To plan our fallout a little bit, isn't it, Especially

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Speaker 2: now you've you more than most because you're juggling multiple

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Speaker 3: Well, but even then, I just want to know where

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Speaker 4: And I was really curious to see what the schedule

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Speaker 4: how those home games and road games were going to

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 4: I also look at where the cold weather sitty when

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Speaker 1: And yeah, you're like New England, we too awesome.

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Speaker 4: Before we get into specifics and week by week matchups, John,

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Speaker 4: when you first took a look at the schedule, what

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Speaker 2: You know, A couple things I always look at right

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Speaker 2: Last year the Seahawks played two Thursday games, but they're

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Speaker 4: Here's what I think I love about this schedule. I

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Speaker 3: Here's what I think I love about that.

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Speaker 2: For sure, that did jump out of me. Of Look,

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Speaker 4: When you look overall Seahawks strength of schedule, it is tied.

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Speaker 4: I don't, however, like how difficult the schedule looks from

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Speaker 3: And now you're looking at Kirk Cousins, you're looking at

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Speaker 4: There's certainly going to be a different looking Jets team

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Speaker 4: I chose the men words carefully on that one, John,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, eight one and one in their last ten at

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Speaker 3: But you know, I'm just looking at it that.

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Speaker 4: The game didn't intrigues you most in general on the

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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