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Speaker 1: Welcome to the battle Ground Podcast, up and exclusive interviews

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Speaker 1: with some of your favorite wrestlers abound, Stop.

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Speaker 2: Doing what's up you guys?

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Speaker 3: Welcome back into Iheartradios official wrestling podcast, The Battleground Podcast

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Speaker 3: at his battle from one oh five nine in the Rock,

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Speaker 3: And of course w w E SmackDown is coming to

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Speaker 3: Knoxville May thirtieth Thompson Bowling Arena. Of course you could

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Speaker 3: grab your tickets now ticketmaster dot com. But today on

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Speaker 3: the show, we're joined by a very special guest. Everybody

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Speaker 3: makes no noise, give it up for the one and

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Speaker 3: the only Alistair Black.

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Speaker 4: How are you doing, sir good? I have to, like,

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Speaker 4: you know, get some hjew on for this, you know,

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Speaker 4: tongue cutting interview that we're about to do.

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Speaker 3: So absolutely, and before we jump into any questions, we

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Speaker 3: want to say, first, happy related birthday. I know we

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Speaker 3: saw all over social media you had a big party recently.

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Speaker 2: How was the birthday party? Wasn't It's like it was

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Speaker 2: a lot of fun.

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Speaker 4: You guys still be sorry. I don't know, yes, it's okay.

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Speaker 5: We thought it was like added to the effect, like

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Speaker 5: you go black when you answer questions or something.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know what happened there, but

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Speaker 4: it was really good. You know, I don't I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't put too much value in in birthdays, if

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Speaker 4: that makes any sense, not of some sort of depressing

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Speaker 4: it's just like, you know, it's it's something that you know,

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Speaker 4: we all do, but it is very it was very

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Speaker 4: important to my wife, and therefore it's important to me.

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Speaker 4: He arranged a lot of this stuff. And you know,

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Speaker 4: forty is a is a strange age the way that

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Speaker 4: I think about it, especially because nowadays forty doesn't feel

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Speaker 4: like forty like it was twenty years ago. You know.

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Speaker 4: If I think about my dad turning forty, you know,

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Speaker 4: I was like, Wow, my dad's like forty years old.

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Speaker 4: He's like, you know, he's got this, he's got that,

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Speaker 4: I feel like I'm forty years old and I'm like,

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Speaker 4: So it's but it is a pivotal age, and I

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Speaker 4: think this day and age, the forty is not what

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Speaker 4: I look better now than I did when I first entered.

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Speaker 4: I feel like I physically am capable of more than

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Speaker 4: There doesn't really seem to be like an athletic cap

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Speaker 4: at age forty like we used to think. I think, obviously,

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Speaker 4: with a science, nutrition and training and everything and all

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Speaker 4: that stuff, obviously we progressed a lot. And it almost

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Speaker 4: feels like forty is the new thirty. And I'm sure

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Speaker 4: that because he doesn't want to be old and like,

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Speaker 4: and of course not. But at the same time, like

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Speaker 4: I only feel I feel great. I feel good. I

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Speaker 4: I feel physically h more capable now than I ever did.

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Speaker 4: So it was, it was. It was a very important birthday.

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Speaker 4: It was a fun birthday. It was a good birthday,

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Speaker 4: a lot of loved ones. And crazy to think that

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Speaker 4: my fortieth birthday was celebrated whilst being back in the w.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and uh, you know, we want to talk

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Speaker 3: about the return. What felt different this time? When you

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Speaker 3: walk through Gorilla and you got that entrance back, You

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Speaker 4: Around me? I felt different? And obviously, you know, the

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Speaker 4: you know, handling the business when I was there. Well,

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Speaker 4: I mean they were there, but they weren't hailing it

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Speaker 5: Does the size of the machine kind of scary now? Like,

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Speaker 5: when you left, you know, the first time.

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Speaker 4: No, it makes me excited. Man. Yeah, so many opportunities,

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Speaker 4: like the beauty about it is that everybody is still

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Speaker 4: the same, right, but he's still the same great I

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Speaker 4: just I worked with great people, right, with fantastic people. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Gonna jump in real quick. So your presentation has always

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Speaker 5: been layered, you know, from the music to the year,

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Speaker 5: just everything. What elements of your persona. Do you think

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Speaker 4: Great question. So I definitely worked on a lot more realism,

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Speaker 4: would now pivot it aside and and move my kneed

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Speaker 4: shots different? I would I would hook my elbows difference. Uh,

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Speaker 4: it's a layer of the character that I've always wanted

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Speaker 4: human trade, and I think quote unquote abusing that in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely sure, answer, yes, of course.

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Speaker 3: these conversations on social media. Obviously, you and Cody Rhoades

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Speaker 4: if something is in that zeitgeist, it's something that we

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Speaker 4: it becomes if it feeds the fire once we kind

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Speaker 4: immediately draw, Hey, let's pull the trigger on this, you know,

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Speaker 4: as a competitor. I think that Cody is the marquee

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Speaker 4: sincerely hope we can do that here because there was

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Speaker 4: so much left in the table, both verbally and stuff

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Speaker 4: that was written down that we never got to that

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Speaker 4: Cody Roads. You know, that's that says a lots and

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely so. Do we have that Night one or Night

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Speaker 2: two of WrestleMania. You just throwing this out there.

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Speaker 3: We're just going ahead and giving you know, triple H

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Speaker 3: de pencil right now.

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Speaker 2: Night one or Night two will let you.

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Speaker 4: Pick that game if you guys, everybody would.

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Speaker 3: Rejoice if we have either Night one or Night two

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Speaker 3: main event Alistair versus Cody. That's gonna be incredible again.

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Speaker 3: Alistair Black is on the show with us right now.

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Speaker 3: Ww SmackDown coming to Knoxville May thirtieth, Thompson Bowling Arena.

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Speaker 2: You can grab your tickets ticketmaster dot com before.

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Speaker 3: We let you go, because I know that we're coming

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Speaker 3: rock station. Oh boy, if we were to go through

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Speaker 3: Alistair Black's playlist currently and we're just kind of scrolling

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Speaker 3: didn't think Alistair Black listens to this song?

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Speaker 2: What is that song on your playlist right now?

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Speaker 4: Ella Fitzgerald the nearness of you?

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Speaker 5: Woo Ell Fitzgerald Wow, A million million cool points on

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Speaker 5: that one excellent answer.

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Speaker 3: That is solid jam Well, Alistair Again, we could sit

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Speaker 3: here and talk to you all day, and once again

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Speaker 3: we want to say i'd belated birthday to you before

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Speaker 3: we let you go. Anything you want to say to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, come see the show. What are you waiting for?

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Speaker 4: Don't hesitate? Just get those tickets you know you want to.

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Speaker 4: It's a fun time, it's a good time. WB is

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Speaker 4: bigger than it's ever been, and be part of it.

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Speaker 4: And I promise you you're gonna have a great time.

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Speaker 4: There is not a single shot of doubt in my

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Speaker 4: mind that if you're hesitant about getting these tickets, you're

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Speaker 4: done it, because it's gonna be a great show. It's

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Speaker 4: always gonna be a great show.