WEBVTT - Marilu Henner - Summer Staff Picks 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:03.440 This is Alec Baldwin and you were listening to Here's 0:00:03.480 --> 0:00:07.880 the Thing from iHeart Radio. It's summer, and that means 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:10.720 it's time for our tradition at Here's the Thing, where 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:14.680 the staff share their favorite episodes from our archives in 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:19.360 our summer staff picks series first up as Engineer Frank Imperial. 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:23.400 Thanks Alec, it didn't take long for me to remember 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:27.000 one of my very favorite episodes. Mary Lou Henner is 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:31.320 an actress and author, Broadway star and Golden Globe winner, 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:35.400 but she can also remember every detail of her life 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:39.479 since childhood, down to what she did, what she wore, 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:43.640 and even what the weather was on any given day 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:47.839 in her history. There are less than one hundred people 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:51.919 in the world with this incredible type of memory, and 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:57.920 here's Alex's twenty twenty one conversation with one of them. 0:00:57.960 --> 0:01:02.600 People have different definitions of what makes a star. Is 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:06.600 it raw talent, beauty or is it simply an X factor, 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:11.279 a certain ineffable quality. Whatever it is, Mary Lou Henner 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:16.440 has it, and she has it in spades. Singer, dancer, actor, 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:21.320 and wellness expert, Henner is a multi talented performer who 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:24.560 is also simply a joy to be around. She's like 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:27.840 a Christmas tree and lights up every room she's in. 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:32.840 She's starred in over a dozen films, seven Broadway shows, 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:37.880 and two smash hit sitcoms. She played Ava Evans Newton 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:42.720 on Evening Shade alongside Burt Reynolds, and perhaps most notably, 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:46.959 Elaine Nardo on Taxi, a role that earned her five 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:51.920 Golden Globe nominations. Mary Lou Henner has also a New 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:56.120 York Times bestselling author and recently staged a one woman 0:01:56.200 --> 0:02:00.240 autobiographical show. It covered everything from growing up in a 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:05.560 large family in Chicago to her preternatural mnemonic skills. Henna 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:08.760 is one of about sixty people in the world who 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:12.400 can recall nearly every detail of her life, down to 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:14.280 the exact day and date. 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:18.400 It's so funny because you know, I worked with Trump 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:22.280 twice on Celebrity Apprentice, but he used to start the 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:26.120 reboard room, like Mary Lou. If I took you to Vegas, 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:28.560 could you cheap for me? Could you count the cards? 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:30.280 Could you let's go to Vegas. 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:34.919 I'm sure people assume that this skill you have. 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:36.880 It's not a skill, but it's yeah, it's just there. 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:37.320 It's weird. 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:37.960 What do you call it. 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:40.919 I call it a gift. The people sometimes call it 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:43.320 a condition. It's not, and that's why they changed the name. 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:45.840 They used to call it hyper tygnesia, but then they 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:48.400 thought that that was like too weird a name, which 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:50.600 it really is. But it's not that they don't call 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:55.520 it that anymore. It's h Sam highly superior autobiographical memory. 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:58.120 H SAM. And it's funny you should mention that and Michelle, 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:00.920 because I do a song about it in my show 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:04.160 that my brother wrote the lyrics to. So I'm going 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:07.680 to is a song called wait, don't tell me No, No, 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:10.040 you know what it's called. It's you know, the Peggy 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:13.320 Lee song because I'm a woman. You know that song? Okay, 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:16.200 So I thought, hmmm, because I have h SAM, so 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:20.280 this is what we decided. I'll just do the first 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:25.079 one Bucks County. It was yeah, I was like this 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:29.840 because I excuse me, mister. It was a very successful 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:32.119 number and a very successful run, a lot of fun. 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:33.520 They said it was the best show they've done there 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:34.360 in seven years. 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:36.520 Well let me ask you this. You wrote a biography 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:39.520 back in ninety four. You've written ten books, I believe, 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:42.920 including that book. But when you do a one woman show. 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:43.760 Where do you start? 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:46.840 Well, you need an opening number that sort of grabs 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:49.839 people and sort of sets up the tone. And so 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:53.480 I I wanted everything to sort of connect to something 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:56.800 in my life. And I was watching television and do 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:59.520 you know the Cold Porter movie, not Night and Day, 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:01.680 the other one that he did anyway, So all of 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:03.680 a sudden, I'm flicking through channels and there it is, 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:08.400 and it's Elvis Costello singing Let's Misbehave, And I thought, oh, 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:12.040 that's the closing credits to Johnny Dangerously. I'm going to 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:13.960 sing that song as my opener and then tell a 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:18.000 story about Johnny Dangerously, but then say everything is connected. 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:21.040 And then I go into the song about my memory 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:22.840 because I wanted to set that up right away because 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:25.600 I throw dates around a lot. And then I talk 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:29.080 about my childhood, which was so unusual, so you know, 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:31.359 and I do a little whole tribute to growing up 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:32.279 in a dancing school. 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:34.080 Well, yeah, what's funny. When I think of you, I 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:35.880 think of many things. You know, when you do the 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:40.240 show Taxi. You're someone who is part of that elite 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:42.280 group of people that I know who were on a 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:45.119 hit TV show back when tens of millions of people 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:49.440 were watching TV, but such a remarkable group of people, 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:50.920 all of whom went on to have these, you know, 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:53.680 really heavy duty careers and everything and movies and TV 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:56.800 and theater and so forth. And how did you get 0:04:56.839 --> 0:04:57.360 that job? 0:04:57.520 --> 0:04:59.919 Okay, this is a good story. I believe that the 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:01.600 key to your life is how well you deal with 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:04.320 Plan B, because so many Plan B things you plan 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:05.920 for Plan A, and you think this is how it's 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:07.239 going to work out, and then all of a sudden 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:10.320 forget it. I had been flown out to Los Angeles 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:12.919 to do a screen test for a movie called Blood Brothers. 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:16.960 I auditioned for Robert Mulligan, the guy I was testing opposite. 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:19.200 He didn't get the job, but they kept me around 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:20.720 because they had to find the guy. And then they 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:23.240 found him, and it was Richard Gear, whom I knew 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:26.320 through the Grease family because when I my first day 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:29.480 in show business professionally, I was in the first National 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:31.880 Company of Greece and I walked into that first rehearsal 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:35.440 and it was Jeff Conaway playing Danny Zuko, Jerry Zach's 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:39.720 playing Kinicki, Michael Lembeck playing Sonny, Judy k playing Rizzo, 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:44.200 Johnny Travolta playing Duty, and Richard gear rehearsing for the 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:47.480 London Company to play Danny Zuko. Anyway, so Richard and 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:49.760 I crosspaths again because we ended up getting cast in 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:52.039 Blood Brothers. So I came out to Los Angeles and 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:54.640 then I ended up staying because I had a contract 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:56.880 with CBS at the time, and they offered me money 0:05:56.880 --> 0:05:59.400 every month to stay away from the other networks while 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:02.440 they found something for me, holding money, holding deal. I 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:05.240 had a holding deal for a few years. Now, all 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:08.440 of a sudden, they're starting to audition for Taxi and 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:12.279 Joel Thurm he really liked me. They wanted a thirty 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:15.200 five year old Italian New Yorker because they wanted her 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:17.719 to have like a sixteen seventeen, eighteen year old daughter, 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:20.760 and because unmarried woman and goodbye girl those were all 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:23.719 out then, so they liked the mother daughter dynamic. But 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:26.040 Joel said, I'm telling you, this is the girl. I 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:28.400 was twenty five. He said, this is the girl because 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:30.440 she can hold her own with somebody like a Judd Hirsch. 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:33.400 She's one of the guys. But you'd believe her having 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:35.800 art aspirations. And I'm telling you, this is the girl. 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:39.000 So he kept bringing me back with all these older actresses. 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:41.560 But in the meantime, my mom was dying in the 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:44.160 hospital in Chicago, so I would literally fly back and 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:46.640 forth and back and forth and back and forth. So 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:49.800 what happened was they really liked me, and at that point, 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:52.960 paper Chase was picked up for a season because Taxi 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:55.160 didn't have to do a pilot, so paper Chase was 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:58.080 picked up for a season and they said, okay, she 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:01.680 tested higher than even John Houseman, we have to give 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:05.360 her a contract. And my agent said, well, there's this 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:09.000 other show, Taxi that you know, so we have to see. 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:11.400 So my agents were able to play one against the other. 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:13.440 And I really wanted to do Taxi because the idea 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:15.120 of doing a sitcom was more appealing to me because 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:18.560 it's like a stage play, you know. So Taxi said, well, 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:21.720 she's too young. We see this teenage girl with a daughter, 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:23.600 blah blah blah blah blah. And they said, look, you're 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:24.880 going to lose her to pay per Chase if you 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:27.920 don't do it. And so they said, okay, we'll do it. 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:30.560 She's Elaine. We'll give her two little kids. So that's 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:32.000 what they did so. 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:34.640 How it was Housman pay Per Chase and what was 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:35.800 his name, Timothy. 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:38.040 Something, Timothy Bottoms. No, he didn't do the TV show. 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:39.360 Tim Bottoms did the movie. 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:41.840 Yeah, yeah, that was a good movie with Lindsay Wagner 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:44.680 and everything. John Houseman was a real character. At the 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:47.200 rap party for the pilot, he tried to French kiss me. 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:48.880 I mean he was like one of those guys. 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:51.960 Wow, well you can actually be canceled now I know. 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:54.400 Oh my god, I've got that. Yeah, I mean I 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:55.560 never had like creepy. 0:07:57.440 --> 0:07:59.760 Who probably deserved to be canceled at some point. 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:02.720 In Actually, I was very protective of myself. I've been 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:04.800 the kind of girl that I think most whatever, I 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:07.920 don't want to say, Well, you know, I had brothers, 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:10.360 so I knew men or pigs, so I was like 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:13.360 always on the defense. I knew I was paying attention. 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:14.520 Some of them are some of them. 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:15.200 You know. 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:17.280 It's funny you say that, because in that casting holding 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:19.120 deal I went out to l A. I told the 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:21.720 story before I think, but I'm there and Chris Guest's mother, 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:26.560 Jean Guest, who are worshiped Gene Guests, was in charge 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:29.080 of casting. Incredible loveliest woman in show She was one 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:30.880 of the loveliest women in show business. And if she 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:32.839 really believed in you, she like hung in there with you. 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:35.599 She brings me into a meeting and they put me 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:37.800 on a holding deal because I did a pilot for 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:39.920 them that fizzled, and they said, we're going to sign 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:42.120 to this holding deal because we really believe in you. 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:44.240 We're going to keep throwing it against the wall until 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:46.599 something sticks. And then he says, we want you to 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:52.480 be the next Bill Dixby. I was like, wow, that 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:53.160 sounds great. 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:55.760 Did you ever honor the deal? Did you ever have 0:08:55.920 --> 0:08:57.520 to or did you get something else? 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:00.480 And the pilot and then I did a tea movie 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:02.280 for them. I did a couple of things for them. 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:04.360 This is obviously a billion years ago, in the eighties 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:06.000 and the early eighties. 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:07.200 The one with Stephanie Zimblist. 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:09.160 You were so good in that that was NBC. 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:13.079 Yeah, I could tell you the day we met and 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:16.040 how we met. What was it. It was May May 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:19.240 the twenty second of nineteen eighty five. It was a Wednesday, 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:22.520 and this is how we met. I knew Tuck, your roommate, 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:24.920 So Tuck and I went till dinner one time, and 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:27.040 in Venice and right where you guys used to live. 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:31.280 So I went over to your house. And now we 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:34.800 are both. I'm in New York doing the junket for Perfect, 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:36.640 and I'm on a bunch of shows and I'm on 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:40.760 Live at five with Sue Simmons, remember, yeah, and you're 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:42.679 And so you and I were both in the room, 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:44.480 but I didn't see you because I didn't really know you. 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:47.120 And all of a sudden I could feel you over 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:49.880 this person over my left shoulder, and then all of 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:53.160 a sudden, Susimon says, and coming up next Alec Baldwin 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:55.800 and later Mary Lou Hannah, and it was like we 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:57.800 looked at each other and I went, oh my gosh. 0:09:58.000 --> 0:09:59.880 It was like, oh my gosh. And you and I 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:04.000 actually had lunch the day of the big Perfect opening 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:06.839 and you were one hundred days sober that day, and 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:08.280 you showed me your coin. 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:10.959 Yeah. I have thirty six years now and Fabril have 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:12.880 thirty seven years. The unbelievable. 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:13.600 It's incredible. 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:15.320 And even last night I wanted to have a drake. 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:20.400 Last night, I thought, let me just have a gigantic glass. 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:21.679 What would you do? 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:24.760 Wine slurpy glass? Of red wine. Tell me good, because 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:27.040 I have horrible insomnia. I've always had hard me too. 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:29.000 Me out with these kids, it's horrible. You know. 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:30.920 I wrote a book called I Refused to Raise a Braath, 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:32.959 and I wrote it with a brilliant psychoanalyst because I 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:35.959 had these two kids, and I listened. Every time I 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:38.719 listened to her, it didn't the kids, it was all good. 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:40.559 And then when I didn't, it was like, Okay, it's 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:41.920 going to bite me on the ass at some point. 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:44.880 But it's so funny because having so many. 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:45.720 I grew up with six. 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:47.439 You grew up with six. We had the opposite of 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:49.680 you guys, because it was two boys and four girls, 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:54.679 which is different, and third third I was third. We 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:57.599 came up with this concept, the concept of hamper, you know, 0:10:57.600 --> 0:11:00.280 because our houses were like a big hamper. So now 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:02.440 to this day, you could have a beautiful silk blouse, 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:04.079 but it's got a stain, so you put a pin 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:06.839 over it. That's hamper. You know, your glasses are broken, 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:08.720 so you put a pin in it. That's hamper. 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:09.000 You know. 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:11.800 You do you put a paper clip a paper clip, 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:15.120 your uniform had staples in it, or tape or something. 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:17.800 You know, it's like I remember growing up, our phone 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:20.719 court was always like so you had to like hold it. 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:23.160 If you read if you read my memoir, it opens 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:25.200 up with how my mother's bedroom was filled with plastic 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:30.160 pails filled with laundry. It was laundry. He bedroom. Her 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:32.440 bedroom was a hand She had an ironing board at 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:34.360 the foot of her bed and an iron and she 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:37.960 had like these plastic hampers, right, these collapsible plastic things 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:39.679 that were just and they were like falling off of 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:41.719 each other. I said, if you if you came to 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:43.319 my house and you didn't know better, you thought this 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:45.280 was in an illegal laundry. Someone was running out of 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:45.600 their house. 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:48.960 So my mother used to do her laun tree on Tuesdays. 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:51.520 There was seventeen loads, you know, and she always had 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:53.520 like seventeen loads from all of us because when you 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:55.360 think about it, a house full of kids like that. 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:58.120 The beginning of the pandemic, I was home. My boys 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:00.760 were here, my brother has two children, my husband, we 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:03.120 were here. I never did more cooking and cleaning and 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:06.920 laundry and scrubbing grout in my life because I'm very 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:09.160 you know, I like to be very organized. But we 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:10.440 had a rule that everybody. 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:12.640 My wife hates it. She's really angry with me that 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:16.920 you're so meticulous that I'm so crushed by an OCD 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:19.240 at that level with my kids, like I'm always cleaning 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:20.679 in my household, and long with my wife was like, 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:21.920 this is going to kill you. 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:24.000 Well, with kids, you got to let it go. I mean, 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:26.120 because I was always and I was tested for OCD 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:27.840 because that was part of the whole memory thing. They 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:29.480 take blood, they do all kinds of tests for you. 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:33.160 I don't have OCD. I call my oco obsessive compulsive 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:35.839 order because one kid in the family had to have 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:38.480 it with six kids, and my bedroom was off the 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:41.120 kitchen and had no door, so people could be on 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:43.240 the phone or at the kitchen table and look in 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:45.520 at a little girl sleeping, and I didn't care. I 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:49.000 was my oldest sister shared it with me, than my 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:52.079 younger sister, than my brother. I mean, but always my 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:54.319 room had no door. So I think that's how I 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:55.400 ended up in show business. 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:56.800 I think the same. I'll tell my wife, I go, 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:59.000 don't you want to let's go to the opposite here. 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:00.840 Don't you want to commend me for how neat I am? 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:03.160 But would you rather have a husband who didn't want 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:07.920 to clean. Now you have two biological children, two biological children, 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:08.720 and they're how old now? 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:11.760 They're one is twenty seven, the other one's twenty five 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:12.800 and a half, and. 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:14.839 You have them doing what phase of your career? What 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:16.640 were you working on at the time you decided to 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:17.920 put the brakes on and have kids. 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:22.000 Oh well, I had finished, okay, so I finished evening Shade. 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:23.839 I do tell this in my club act because I 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:26.400 always say I couldn't talk about the eighties and nineties 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:29.240 without talking about Burt Reynolds, because I did five projects 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:31.240 with him and we never had a thing, which is 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:33.840 probably why we were able to work together so often. 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:37.800 But I always adored him and he one morning, you know, Rob, 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:40.400 my second husband, and I were frisky and then I 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:44.360 go to work and Bert is directing this episode where 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:47.520 he has me do a stunt where I am running, running, running, 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:52.600 leaping over like a fence in a football stadium stand 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:55.600 and I land and then run up to the team 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:57.280 and he says, do it again, do it again, do 0:13:57.360 --> 0:13:59.679 it again, do it again. So that night I was 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:02.040 sitting in a restaurant and this is after three and 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:04.160 a half years I sitting in a restaurant and I 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:06.720 looked at Rob and I went, the eagle has landed. 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:09.199 I just got pregnant. He said. What I said, I'm 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:12.640 telling you. Contact was made, and sure enough I was pregnant. 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:15.040 So I always tell people Burt Reynolds got me pregnant, 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:17.000 even though he's not the father of my kids. 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:18.360 He's the spiritual father. 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:19.320 The spiritual father. 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:22.280 Yeah, and when you worked with him, you did Cannibal 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:22.880 Too with him? 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:24.760 Well, I first did the man who loved women, and 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:27.280 we had such a great chemistry the very first day. 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:30.680 But he called me the night that we met, the 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:32.360 very night and he said, I want you to come 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:36.160 down to the Dinner Theater in Jupiter, Florida. I want 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:38.000 you to do their playing our song, he said, And 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:41.200 I want you to do Cannonball Run too. But I 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:44.320 want a rewrite of the script. Do you know anybody, 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:47.440 any of the guys from Taxi that might be willing 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:49.360 to take a crack at it. I was like, okay, 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:52.480 So originally the counterball I've never told this story before. 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:56.480 The count Ball Run Too script was about the Dom 0:14:56.680 --> 0:14:59.440 and Bert sort of rescue this girl who's hiding out 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:02.240 in a Santa Terrim and she's an heiress and then 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:04.120 they rescue her, and then she and Bert end up 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:07.080 in a thing. And so then I get Harvey Miller, 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:09.360 who was a taxi writer the job, and he turns 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:13.320 it into two women, and then Shirley McLean wanted to 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:15.960 do it. So then of course they put Shirley with 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:18.120 Burt and I was with Dom, which was fine, but 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:20.160 it's kind of funny, but I had like one of 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:23.360 the best experience. That movie was so stupid. But there 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:26.680 were a couple days where we had like twenty three 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:31.800 wagon trains in the desert outside of Tucson, Arizona, because 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:34.240 it was one hundred and seventeen degrees. So we started 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:36.520 hair and makeup was at two o'clock in the morning 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:38.560 so we could be on the road before four, and 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:41.360 we pulled the plug at at one. But then everybody 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:43.480 hung out at the pool at the Arizona Inn. So 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:45.960 it was Sammy Davis Junior, and Dean Martin, all these 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:47.920 guys and even Frank for a day. And to be 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:51.640 with Shirley, whom I had always loved and always idle, 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:54.400 to play her friend, and then to have her hanging 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:55.920 out with the rat pack. It was like, you know, 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:57.880 I was this little girl from Chicago who's watching these 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:00.760 people at drive ins and stuff. Was like a lot 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:01.160 of one. 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:04.200 Yeah, I met him. For those people who don't know this, 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:06.880 and I was not a big devotee of this, but 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:09.640 I went a few times. It's that Norby Walters, famous 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:14.040 record executive. Norby Walters had his card game, his legendary 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:17.040 card game at his apartment Wednesday nights and West Wednesday 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:18.720 nights in West Hollywood. And you go up to the 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:19.960 department of his near. 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:24.120 Holloway, Yeah, Halloway and Losi Anago, Yeah, Losi, on. 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:25.840 Your way to Barney's Beanery and on your way to 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:29.600 the Sunset Marquis, and you go to his house. And 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:31.800 I went there. I went a handful of times. You know, 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:38.000 Velvida cheese and no alcohol. That was a no alcohol 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:39.960 and you bought one hundred dollars worth of chips and 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:41.400 when you were finished, you were done. There was no 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:44.160 serious gambling. And you went there. And I remember sitting 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:46.480 there one time and there was Harvey Korman and Tim. 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:48.600 Oh Tim Conway, Yeah Conway. 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:50.360 The two of them were there at one time. Kathy 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:51.920 Lee Crosby would go every now. 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:54.600 And then Rod Steiger was there a couple of times. 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:56.880 When you were there. Bert was there when I went 0:16:56.920 --> 0:16:58.840 one time, Oh he was. He seemed like he was 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:02.600 in the throw of his kind of medicated agony. But 0:17:03.200 --> 0:17:06.159 but then to the right of me one time was 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:10.560 Don Adams, and Don Adams is in a China white 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:13.520 jumpsuit and everyone's waiting for the moment to arrive when 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:15.080 someone's going to just do this and do the Don 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:18.840 Adams thing, so somebody will puts down two pairs, you know. 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:21.840 He puts down two pairs, and I put down I 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:27.040 say I have three kings, and everybody left, and he 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:30.520 doesn't laugh. Oh, and then finally he smiles and nods 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:32.840 to me, like, okay, good for you. You saw the 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:35.840 opportunity and you took it. But he was very serious 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:39.760 and very really super antiseptic and very He was there 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:41.800 to play cards. He didn't want to talk about his 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:44.200 career or chit chatt. He was there to play cards 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:46.760 with a bunch of schmucks. We work card players were 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:50.440 eating Valveda and Hershy's kisses and drinking Hawaian punch whatever 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:51.200 the hell they had there. 0:17:51.240 --> 0:17:54.080 Yeah, it's funny, you're bringing up Norby Walters because you 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:56.240 probably don't remember this, but we were both supposed to 0:17:56.400 --> 0:18:01.600 be there on it was. It was the seventh of 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:04.159 two thousand and one. Okay, it was a Wednesday at 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:07.879 June the sixth of two thousand and one, seriously, and 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:10.560 you called up and said you weren't going to make it. 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:13.040