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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. It's

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving Eve. We are thankful for all of you and

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Speaker 1: appreciate the fact that you are spending your Thanksgiving Eve

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Speaker 1: with us. We know that many of you may be

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Speaker 1: listening as you are driving or flying across the country,

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Speaker 1: maybe even around the world, and we certainly appreciate all

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Speaker 1: of you for hanging out with us, and we are

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Speaker 1: fans of you and everything that you guys have allowed

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Speaker 1: us to do so far this year. So Buck and

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Speaker 1: I both very thankful for all of you and want

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Speaker 1: you to be safe while you are traveling around the country.

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Speaker 1: I've seen some photos and videos from airports all over

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Speaker 1: the country and it's really kind of crazy to see

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Speaker 1: how many of you are out and about. Buck is

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Speaker 1: in New York, I am in Nashville. We'll be celebrating

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Speaker 1: with our families close to home, and we can't wait

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Speaker 1: to be able to do that. So we've got a

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Speaker 1: lot to dive into. I'm gonna open up phone lines

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Speaker 1: have a fun time with you guys on Thanksgiving Eve.

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Speaker 1: Here eight hundred two eight two two eight eight two.

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Speaker 1: If you want to react to us. We're going to

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Speaker 1: head out to Qatar, and I believe that is the

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Speaker 1: official pronunciation that Fox has decided on. Buck. I mean,

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Speaker 1: for the Arabic speakers out there, it's cutter. But we're Americans,

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Speaker 1: so we call things whatever we want. It's not the

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Speaker 1: University of Madame, it is Notre Dame. Same idea. They

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Speaker 1: had a full article, I think on in the New

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Speaker 1: York Times that I read in the last couple of

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Speaker 1: days about how the pronunciation of the country there's like

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Speaker 1: seven or eight different ways to pronounce it, depending on

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Speaker 1: what angle you go with. But we are going to Doha,

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Speaker 1: which is the capital of Qatar, and we will talk

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Speaker 1: to Alexei Wallace, who is a Fox soccer analyst in

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Speaker 1: advance of what should be a really fun Friday. I

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Speaker 1: know many of you will be watching a lot of

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Speaker 1: sports Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday as you eat your turkey kickback.

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Speaker 1: I actually Buck just came from my kids and a

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Speaker 1: bunch of other neighborhood kids in a mass football game. Uh.

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Speaker 1: They are all out of school and first thing they

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Speaker 1: want to do. Uh my eight year old, my twelve

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Speaker 1: year old, and my fourteen year old are all a

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Speaker 1: part of the same game, big game breaking out. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure many of your kids are out. Hopefully they're running

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Speaker 1: around and having a fantastic time. So I have cousins

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Speaker 1: who had a you know, I grew up right in

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Speaker 1: you're still stunned by how people live in houses. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: yeah they were. They had a yard. Yeah, and there

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Speaker 1: they were. There were not like h like like fifteen

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Speaker 1: big dog. But we used to remember we would play

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Speaker 1: have to wear a jacket and tie for Thanksgiving and

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Speaker 1: Christmas as a family of the little kids. Do you

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Speaker 1: no stretching, no, you know, you know. Now I'm like, oh, man,

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Speaker 1: up off the ground. Back then, man, I have Thanksgiving

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Speaker 1: my cousins. We are all the same age. Basically throw

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Speaker 1: And you know what's funny, I bet we have a

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Speaker 1: lot of people who work in hospitals for Thanksgiving. And

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Speaker 1: first of all, we appreciate everybody who doesn't get Thanksgiving

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Speaker 1: of you out there listening to us right now keeping

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Speaker 1: the country running. But the amount of people who come

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Speaker 1: in with Thanksgiving family football injuries very often older guys

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Speaker 1: who's hand strings give out. Maybe the ACL doesn't stretch

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Speaker 1: as well as it used to. Massive numbers of injuries

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Speaker 1: such that Buck I told my boys, I was like, hey,

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Speaker 1: We'll play some football. It's like sixty five degrees here

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Speaker 1: home for the last solo with my family Thanksgiving that

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Speaker 1: I will have and Carrie is with her family, and

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Speaker 1: then we're gonna have to do the clay. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: DoD we break down Christmas Thanksgiving? Is that a one

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Speaker 1: the death of the person that is being mourned. You're

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Speaker 1: do you know? So, I think it creates this unfair

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Speaker 1: the media. No, I'm sorry. They weaponized the narrative. It

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Speaker 1: was wrong. They jumped to a conclusion that fit there,

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Speaker 1: and they slandered people. And now it was fascinating. You

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Speaker 1: might have seen this clan social media. Initially it was well,

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Speaker 1: clearly this person aldrich clue, this person is just doing

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Speaker 1: this as some kind of a troll of the court

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Speaker 1: or defense. Yeah yeah, or some kind of defense. Not true.

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Speaker 1: This individual wanted to change his name at the age

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Speaker 1: of sixteen. This stretches back four years. This was not

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Speaker 1: something that just that just they stumbled a pawn in

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Speaker 1: this moment. And I also think it raises issues why

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Speaker 1: should the court accede to this? Why should mean as

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Speaker 1: far as the court is concerned, there are men, there

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Speaker 1: and women, and the claim that somebody has to be

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Speaker 1: referred to by different pronouns, in fact, plural pronouns. I

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Speaker 1: really mean this. The New York Times has even had

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Speaker 1: this discussion in the past. Using plural pronouns is grammatically

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Speaker 1: incorrect and confusing. Yes, and in a court situation, to

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Speaker 1: be confusing the jury with plural pronouns when an individual

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Speaker 1: committed a heinous act is confusing. If I were, let

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Speaker 1: me give it a sorry. I'm just obviously fired about this, Clay,

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Speaker 1: if I were accused of a serious crime and I

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Speaker 1: kept saying, you can't refer to me as as the

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Speaker 1: as the defendant. You have to refer to me as

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Speaker 1: the victim, because that's how I identify. I identify as

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Speaker 1: a victim. You say, well, no, of course not. That's

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Speaker 1: going to confuse the jury. You don't get to make

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Speaker 1: up the language that other people in a court of

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Speaker 1: law use to discuss a legal proceeding. I'm so I

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Speaker 1: got big problems with that. No, I think you're a

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent righte about this. And from a legal perspective,

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Speaker 1: you can imagine how the jury could be confused in

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Speaker 1: a big way. It's actually a tremendous advantage to the

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Speaker 1: defendant because every time you refer to the defendant, if

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Speaker 1: you say they, it makes people think that more than

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Speaker 1: one person was involved in a crime. Right, So if

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Speaker 1: you say they did this shooting, then my initial response

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Speaker 1: is like, who are the shooterers? Plural directly, and I'm

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Speaker 1: sure most people sitting on a jury would be. And also,

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Speaker 1: if you're reading the transcripts as a lawyer, which I

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Speaker 1: used to have to do, when you're using a plural,

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Speaker 1: you are constantly thinking in your head, Okay, wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: did I miss something here? Is this multiple people who

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Speaker 1: were involved? Is this one person who was involved? All

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Speaker 1: of it crazy? And I think it also ties in

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Speaker 1: with what we said on this program, which is this

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Speaker 1: That's another issue that I have from from a pure

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Speaker 1: legal and justice system perspective on this one. Every time

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Speaker 1: to your point, Clay, yes it could be they, so

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Speaker 1: were there multiple shooters? It's confusing, as you just discussed,

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Speaker 1: absolutely true, but also it raises this this idea that

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Speaker 1: there is perhaps a collective responsibility they you know they

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Speaker 1: did this terrible thing, but you know they have a

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Speaker 1: long history. Well who is they exactly right? This it

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Speaker 1: diffuses responsibility for the individual the individual acts, and I

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Speaker 1: would say even you know, in some ways is also

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Speaker 1: a stealth I'm just gonna say it, a stealth mental

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Speaker 1: health defense. The jury is going to be hearing all

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Speaker 1: the time about this, about this person who insists on

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Speaker 1: being called they if I'm a jury, I'm if I'm

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Speaker 1: a juror I'm sitting there saying, okay, this person is

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Speaker 1: mentally unbalanced. That's what's going to happen. So it's a

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Speaker 1: way of introducing a sort of insanity defense without actually

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Speaker 1: doing that because the person also what was it, what

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Speaker 1: M M right. No, I know I'm saying, I don't

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Speaker 1: even know how you pronounce it. What I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: if I want to do a court of law and

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Speaker 1: you know, everyone knows we could all fill in the

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Speaker 1: blanks here. It's this is crazy stuff that's going on.

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Speaker 1: But also the fact that they lied about this right

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Speaker 1: away and put this on specific individuals. I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: say this, AOC. Wasn't she the one who called out Yeah, AOC,

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Speaker 1: if she has a shred of honor or integrity, should

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Speaker 1: publicly apologize to Congresswoman Boberg. This is not just a

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Speaker 1: political part, is it. That is actually the case here.

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Speaker 1: If she will not apologize, she is a person of

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Speaker 1: no honor or decency. And we know by the way

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Speaker 1: that she will not apologize because she does have no

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Speaker 1: honor decency. Worse than that, even than her failure to

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Speaker 1: apologize Buck. None of these people who jumped to conclusions

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Speaker 1: about the motivations of the shooter are going to be

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Speaker 1: held accountable by the media either, right, all these people

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Speaker 1: who went on CNN and MSNBC and attacked Fox News

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Speaker 1: consequences now that they are proven wrong. I find it

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Speaker 1: hard to believe that this shooter is a Tucker Carlson viewer,

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Speaker 1: or a you know, Daily Wire subscriber, or a Clay

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Speaker 1: and Buck listener. And yet that is what they are

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Speaker 1: going to try to ascribe as the motivation. They're not

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Speaker 1: going to have to own the fact that they were wrong.

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Speaker 1: They try to use this shooting to further leverage the

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Speaker 1: narrative that Elon Musks takeover of Twitter is dangerous and

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Speaker 1: leading to people die. I mean, everything they could fit

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Speaker 1: Rush's concept of the drive by media is so accurate

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Speaker 1: back to the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Everybody

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Speaker 1: a lot to talk about today, and in particular, I

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Speaker 1: gotta say we were discussing the student loan situation for

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Speaker 1: a second there. I just want to come back to

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Speaker 1: this because because the Biden administration, we've gone from we've

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Speaker 1: gone from Hold on a second, why are we pausings too? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Because we're in a pandemic, all right? I think that

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Speaker 1: that was a sketchy argument. Clay in the first six months.

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Speaker 1: I mean from you know, February of twenty or March

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Speaker 1: basically the fall. I found it unpersuasive really, but okay,

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Speaker 1: maybe given that they were doing PPP and all these

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Speaker 1: other things. Fine. The fact that they are officially extending

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Speaker 1: this state of emergency and then they're also officially extending

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Speaker 1: the student loans delay, I mean, this is this is

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Speaker 1: just ridiculous. I mean, this is flagrantly not in the

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Speaker 1: power of the presidency unless you're just gonna just declare

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Speaker 1: a forever COVID emergency and make it up as you

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Speaker 1: go along, which is kind of what they're doing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and credit to the Senate. I don't know that we

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Speaker 1: talked about it very much on the show, but see

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Speaker 1: sixty two senators, which is hard to get a vote

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Speaker 1: for sixty two senators to agree on anything, have voted

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Speaker 1: that the pandemic emergency should be over, including crazily Chuck

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Speaker 1: Schumer and the other part of this that's wild to

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Speaker 1: think about, Buck is remember Joe Biden went on Sixty

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Speaker 1: Minutes back in September and said COVID's over and a

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Speaker 1: base part of the Democrat Party was unwilling to accept

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Speaker 1: that COVID could be over, and it undercuts his argument

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Speaker 1: on behalf of student loans and many other executive actions

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Speaker 1: that he has taken, including certainly loan forgiveness for student loans,

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Speaker 1: to be arguing in September, Hey, COVID's over, and I

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Speaker 1: think they've extended it now until June buck which means

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Speaker 1: that COVID and we can check on that and make

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Speaker 1: sure I'm right, but I think it extends all the

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Speaker 1: way the emergency does. Now til June. COVID is three

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Speaker 1: years in. By the time that this is at three

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Speaker 1: are Ya, three years in, by the time that this

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Speaker 1: thing is continuing. You hurt me trying to do math

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Speaker 1: in my head. The same reaction I had yesterday when

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Speaker 1: doctor Fauci had his good By press conference and he's

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Speaker 1: telling us for a third straight Thanksgiving, Hey, you should

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Speaker 1: be wearing a mask and testing and you can't have

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Speaker 1: a normal Thanksgiving. What person, that's a good question. What

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Speaker 1: percentage of people going to Thanksgiving tomorrow do you think

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Speaker 1: five percent of Americans I think are still living in

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Speaker 1: this delusion that they have to obey all the time.

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Speaker 1: You think percent of Americans are like back to normal

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Speaker 1: for Thanksgiving, I'm pretty much. I think that of the

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Speaker 1: proportion of people, and this is bait, I just got

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Speaker 1: off a plane, right, the proportion of people that still masks,

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Speaker 1: sometimes in some places a little higher. The proportion of

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Speaker 1: people who think that, you know, maybe they should get

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Speaker 1: maybe their kids should get well, actually the kids as

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Speaker 1: we know. That was really a breaking point here in

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Speaker 1: the whole Faucciite regime. Was you know, when Faucci's grind

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Speaker 1: saying get you Toddler's shots three, four and five, A

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Speaker 1: lot of people walk around saying, uh, I don't think so,

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Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think I want to get

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Speaker 1: my kids the shot at all, because most people didn't

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Speaker 1: get it at all, right, I mean, and that was

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Speaker 1: in the ninety ninety six ninety seven percent range. People

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Speaker 1: didn't get the shots for their kids. It was fastening.

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Speaker 1: That was all sort of time though, where Twitter was

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Speaker 1: still under the firm in the firm grip of the commissars,

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Speaker 1: which we should talk about the what is the trust

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Speaker 1: and safety. If you were trying to come up with

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Speaker 1: an additional chapter for George Orwell's nineteen eighty four, it

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Speaker 1: could have been the Trust and Safety Committee at Twitter, right,

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Speaker 1: which is just suppressing ideas that are like But they

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Speaker 1: were elevating all these parents who were blue check libs,

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Speaker 1: not that the blue check means the same thing anymore,

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Speaker 1: who were having their little toddler. Here's streaming down their faces.

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Speaker 1: They're getting jabbed with a colored vaccine and the look

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Speaker 1: of glee on some of those parents' faces. They are

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Speaker 1: deranged libs who need to stop watching MSNBC. That's the truth.

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Speaker 1: I actually saw Nate Silver, who some of you may know,

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Speaker 1: he's a prognosticator data analyst, kind of flip out on

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Speaker 1: Twitter this week saying, essentially, these people who claim that

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Speaker 1: they're checking for misinformation are actually the biggest purveyors of

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Speaker 1: misinformation on social media. And I was like, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: they are one hundred percent. And certainly Elon Musk has

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Speaker 1: come to that realization. And I think if you are

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Speaker 1: a rational, sentient, normal human being, you are looking around

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Speaker 1: now and saying, man, a lot of these people who

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Speaker 1: claim to be looking at misinformation are severely broken individuals

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Speaker 1: who are spreading misinformation more than almost people. They also

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Speaker 1: they've lived in these echo chambers of leftist orthodox for

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Speaker 1: so long their entire lives that when they're actually forced

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Speaker 1: to grapple with opposing ideas, it really just overrides the

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Speaker 1: system and they want to crawl into a fetal position

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Speaker 1: and freak out. Let's talk a little bit about Elon.

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Speaker 1: I think Elon is changing the way discourse happens online,

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Speaker 1: Clay in a good way. I think it's fantastic. Clay, Travis,

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Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth