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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center.

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Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm Strong and Jettike and

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Speaker 2: now he Armstrong and Yetty. What do you think? How'sh

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Speaker 2: your we kid? Looking good? Fantastic? Glad to hear it.

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Speaker 2: My son doesn't my birthday boy. He doesn't like cake,

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Speaker 2: doesn't want a birthday cake his first year. He's old

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Speaker 2: enough to just say out loud, don't give me a cake.

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Speaker 2: I don't like like cake. I've never really liked cake either.

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Speaker 2: I like it, I'll eat it, but.

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Speaker 1: Let me eat cake. To paraphrase Marie Antoinette, who if.

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Speaker 2: I got it? Ten choices for assert and one of

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Speaker 2: them's cake, probably going to be a bunch of other things.

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Speaker 2: I choose ahead a cake. I think my mom made

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Speaker 2: a birthday pie a couple times. Mmm, the ultimate dessert. Yes,

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Speaker 2: a cake would not be at the top of my list,

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Speaker 2: right would. It would probably be a pie, A pie

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Speaker 2: dressed up by ice cream even better.

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Speaker 1: I like cheesecake, but that's not really cake. I love

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Speaker 1: cheesecake cheesecakes. A pie, isn't it, folks? Or is it

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Speaker 1: like the taco which I've long maintained as a sandwich.

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Speaker 1: It's a hybrid, it's an in between her. Nobody knows.

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Speaker 2: I will almost always order bread pudding if that's an option.

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Speaker 2: You have never had any idea what you're gonna get

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Speaker 2: because it varies so much.

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Speaker 1: But bread pudding with a nice sauce drizzled on it,

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Speaker 1: that's that's top of the heap, right there.

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Speaker 2: Man, Yes, sir, oh that's right. We're doing a show.

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Speaker 1: Let's get down to business to deal with I was

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Speaker 1: talking about this with my kids the other day because

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Speaker 1: we were at a fancy restaurant and we're talking about

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Speaker 1: getting dessert.

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Speaker 2: This was for my birthday, and my seventh grader said,

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Speaker 2: I'd really I'd rather have a mcflory because there was

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Speaker 2: a McDonald's we passed on the whole of the restaurant,

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Speaker 2: and I was having the conversation that I often have.

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Speaker 2: There's lots of desserts like that that if you serve

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Speaker 2: that at a fancy restaurant and up the price and

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Speaker 2: gave it a different name, people say, oh, this is good.

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Speaker 2: Have you had the you know, give it an Italian

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Speaker 2: name something or other at a fancy restaurant, mcflury's freaking awesome.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I haven't had one in many years because I'm

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Speaker 1: not a child, so I don't know that.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, man, remember our old sales guy friend Tim,

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Speaker 2: who used to say he always wished they'd offer the back.

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Speaker 2: Then he called it the one dollar dessert. Maybe now

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Speaker 2: you need to call it the three dollar dessert, but

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Speaker 2: just a smaller portion. I'd like dessert, but I don't

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Speaker 2: need a piece of cake the sides of my head

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Speaker 2: or whatever it is you're going to bring me that

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Speaker 2: costs fifteen dollars. So if we all get dessert, you know,

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Speaker 2: we've just increased the bill by fifty bucks. Can we

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Speaker 2: just get, like, you know, a couple of bytes of

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Speaker 2: one of these things for a couple bucks.

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Speaker 1: Well, a dessert and dessert in three forks or four

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Speaker 1: forks or whatever it is one way to approach it.

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Speaker 2: But hey, Katy, you got to help me with this.

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Speaker 2: What's what's the cake that's.

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Speaker 1: Got like the chocolate sauce and stuff, the volcano cake

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Speaker 1: or lava cakes? Yeah, yeah, oh now that's a good cake, right.

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Speaker 2: I'm I was afraid to burn my tongue. I've never

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Speaker 2: had it just sounds so hot. But is the reason

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Speaker 2: they don't offer just a little nibble of everything. It's

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Speaker 2: just that it'd be it's such a profit center to

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Speaker 2: have people order the dessert and charge a lot for it.

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Speaker 1: And now I'll bet there's data on its a guy

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Speaker 1: who's in the like the umbrella management of restaurants world,

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Speaker 1: and how it's amazing to me. It's you know, it's

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Speaker 1: obvious when you think about it, but I never thought

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Speaker 1: about how data driven it all is. How they have

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Speaker 1: built in expectations about various days of the week, and

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Speaker 1: the number of covers that they're going to serve, which

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Speaker 1: is just restaurant term for people plates, and how carefully all.

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Speaker 2: Of that is studied.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, they absolutely could show you the spreadsheet of

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Speaker 1: you know, percentage of diners who ordered desserts, how many

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Speaker 1: are multiple desserts per table? And if you ordered the

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Speaker 1: if you offered the little fellas, would you lose the

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Speaker 1: profit from three different people wanting three different things?

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Speaker 2: But I'm guessing that's true.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So another thing I want to get to speaking

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Speaker 1: of food this hour, is a little more on that

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Speaker 1: whole ultra processed food thing. What does that mean? How

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Speaker 1: is that? And also it's funny partly because of the

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Speaker 1: Trump fever pitch of changes and orders and policies and

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Speaker 1: tariffs and all. Did you realize the college CAMPI the

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Speaker 1: alleged elite universities are every bit as cuckoo nuts pro

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Speaker 1: hamas this year as they were last year.

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Speaker 2: It's just not getting as much coverage.

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Speaker 1: We could touch on that if we wanted, but first

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Speaker 1: let's take a fond look back at the week there was.

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Speaker 2: It's cow clips of the week, and we don't have

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Speaker 2: time to kiss each those.

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Speaker 3: Asses, which for the weak.

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Speaker 2: America is back.

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Speaker 3: Million dollars to promote lgbt q I plus in the

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Speaker 3: African nation of Lesuto, which nobody has ever heard of.

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Speaker 2: From the table, Wokeness is trouble. Wokeness is bad.

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Speaker 3: It's gone, it's gone, and we feel so much better

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Speaker 3: for it.

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Speaker 2: Only don't we feel better? And now I want.

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Speaker 3: Congress to pass a bill permanently banning and criminalizing sex

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Speaker 3: changes on children.

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Speaker 4: Make no mistake that this is just another version of

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Speaker 4: state sanctioned bullying and genocide.

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Speaker 2: Would you do something like that? Would you say no?

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Speaker 2: Men and female sports? Well, it's I think it's an

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Speaker 2: issue of fairness. I completely agree with you on that.

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Speaker 2: Have you said thank you once?

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Speaker 1: That is, he found every opportunity to try to Ukraine's

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Speaker 1: plain on every issue.

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Speaker 2: So I'm not hearing from you, mister president. Thought that

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Speaker 2: you owe the president and apology.

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Speaker 1: I think that we have to be very open and

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Speaker 1: very honest. Are the Europeans willing to stand up for themselves?

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Speaker 2: We must not give in to any exist.

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Speaker 5: Pray, listen, this trend, if you all trying to get

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Speaker 5: thrown out of committee so you can get on.

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Speaker 2: ABC is going to end more. We're not gonna put

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Speaker 2: up with it. What's the problem is that Democrats are

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Speaker 2: on the wrong side of normal and you're going to

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Speaker 2: continue to speak lies to his truth that ain't true.

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Speaker 2: That's what you just heard. That's what you just heard.

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Speaker 2: That's what you just saw.

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Speaker 6: Trump adding a twenty five percent tax on all goods

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Speaker 6: coming across the border, because if you've.

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Speaker 3: Been influencing those decisions because of them are reaction. I'm

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Speaker 3: not even looking at the market shallow me.

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Speaker 7: You know, winning for Best Picture and the Oscar goes

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Speaker 7: to Honora's.

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Speaker 3: Fifty thousand and two points.

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Speaker 1: Far better is it to dare mighty things to win

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Speaker 1: glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to rank

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Speaker 1: with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much

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Speaker 1: because they live in a gray twilight that knows not

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Speaker 1: victory nor defeat.

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Speaker 2: Checkered by failure. The Armstrong and Giddy Show, that's that's

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Speaker 2: a good.

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Speaker 2: So a couple of things on the oscars which I

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Speaker 2: couldn't have told you for money, that were just this

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Speaker 2: past Sunday. Adam Sandler is funny when he said hold

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Speaker 2: on a second and he runs down to Timothy Shallowy Shallowy.

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Speaker 2: Its just such an that means nothing but as funny.

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Speaker 2: But that Anora movie. So, I haven't watched it. It's

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Speaker 2: two hours long and it's about the sex industry. It's

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Speaker 2: a dramedy, that's all I know about it. And it's

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Speaker 2: about a yeah, sex worker who marries a retresh. Well,

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Speaker 2: have you watch it? Uh? No, I just read it

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Speaker 2: for it. So somebody told me the other day they

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Speaker 2: watched it and the it's an The first hour is

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Speaker 2: like watching a pornal, they said. It's just basically nothing

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Speaker 2: but sex for an hour. They said, buck black because

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Speaker 2: it's just an hour of sex. Then they really get

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Speaker 2: into the you know, the plot. Yeah. One reviewer, a

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Speaker 2: guy who I really respect.

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Speaker 1: The one thing he said is, you know, if you

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Speaker 1: like that sort of movie, it's a it's a pretty

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Speaker 1: good one. But the idea that that's the best picture

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Speaker 1: is just an indictment of movie making right now.

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Speaker 2: Well, is it just they're thrilled with the idea of

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Speaker 2: having something so sexual? Is I don't know. I'd have

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Speaker 2: to watch it.

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Speaker 1: I well, And a lot of the statements by people

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Speaker 1: in support of it was all about humanizing sex work

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Speaker 1: and sex work promoting their point of view. Yeah, I know,

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Speaker 1: I know. So a couple couple of shat app is right.

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Speaker 1: A couple of thoughts on cow. First of all, on language,

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Speaker 1: loved Trump not adopting the language of the woke left

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Speaker 1: and saying we're not going to have sex changes. On children,

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Speaker 1: don't ever use terms like gender affirming care.

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Speaker 2: Hell, don't even use gender unless.

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Speaker 1: You're in front of kids, and saying there are only

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Speaker 1: two sexes will make them giggle because the word sex

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Speaker 1: sex changes for children is the terminology to you. Secondly,

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Speaker 1: that one woke moron talking about the transgender thing saying

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Speaker 1: it's it's bullying and genocide. Those people are gonna do

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Speaker 1: for the word genocide what they did for the word racist,

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Speaker 1: render it completely meaningless by calling everything genocide all the time.

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Speaker 1: Thank them for doing my work for me. Yeah, exactly

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Speaker 1: exactly the same thing. And secondly I appreciate it, or

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Speaker 1: thirdly I appreciated James Comer in that hearing saying, look

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Speaker 1: to end. Call it for what it is, Well done,

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Speaker 1: James Charley. I gotta watch the Dylan movie. When's it

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Speaker 1: gonna be on my TV? I don't want to go

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Speaker 2: Yeah, really, dug that.

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Speaker 1: Favorite Bob Dylanton. People don't know, uh huh.

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Speaker 2: Favorite Bob Dylan. I think unless you're not an obvious

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Speaker 2: hit almost all of them. Yeah I suppose so, yeah,

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Speaker 2: obvious hit and have I hit you mean popular Bob

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Speaker 2: Doylon because he didn't really have many hits?

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Speaker 1: No, No, but like saying the times they are changing, No.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm highly annoyed by the early they got, you know,

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Speaker 2: used in the civil rights movement.

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Speaker 1: That really you can't appreciate them as song craft, even

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Speaker 1: so soured by life.

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Speaker 2: He didn't even he drove him nuts. So all he

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Speaker 2: drives me is a fan nuts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough, fair enough, mine's joker man. Love that song?

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Speaker 1: Oh what time is it? Yeah, we gotta take a break,

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Speaker 1: trying to think of my favorite deserted arrestaurant.

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Speaker 2: Flowerless cake is a different kind of cake I will

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Speaker 2: usually get if there's a chocolate flowerless cake. I love it.

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Speaker 2: Dense as uranium. One bite and you need a cup

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Speaker 2: of coffee or you're gonna die. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I take one bite and say, hey, take this back

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Speaker 1: to the kitchen, put some flour in it.

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Speaker 2: This is garbage. Okay, we got more on the way.

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Speaker 2: Stay here. Coming up, We got to read from this

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Speaker 2: New York Times story that just hit about this explosive

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Speaker 2: meeting that happened to the White House where people had

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Speaker 2: had enough of Elon Musk and a cabinet members and

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Speaker 2: Times makes crap up all the time. But this is

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Speaker 9: Elon has been really teaching everybody about the numbers that

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Speaker 1: Well, and how do you know it's not being checked?

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Speaker 2: No, I was telling and it's interesting, my uh, I

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Speaker 1: Part of the totality of Elon Musk is undoubtedly his

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Speaker 1: autism and his quirks. He is not like Steve Jobs

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Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. But some of the great

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Speaker 1: geniuses who've altered history and technology have been extremely difficult

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Speaker 1: to work with. And not just because you couldn't keep

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Speaker 1: up with their genius. No, it's because they're a holes.

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Speaker 1: It's because they either don't care about other people's lives

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Speaker 1: and feelings and the rest of it, or they're not

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Speaker 1: capable of it.

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, this does not strike me as nutty. After

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Speaker 2: the argument dragged on for an uncomfortable time, mister Trump

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Speaker 2: finally intervened to defend mister Rubio is doing a great job.

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Speaker 2: Mister Rubio has a lot to deal with, the President said,

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Speaker 2: he's very busy, he's always traveling on TV, and he

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Speaker 2: had an agency to run, so everyone just needs to

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Speaker 2: work together. The meeting was a potential inflection point after

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Speaker 2: the frenetic first weeks of mister Trump's second term. It

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Speaker 2: yielded the first significant indication that mister Trump is willing

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Speaker 2: to put some limits on mister Musk. Again, I think

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Speaker 2: that's I think you on the left were acting like

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Speaker 2: he had free reign to do whatever he wanted. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure Trumpet never at any point thought Elon gets to

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Speaker 2: do whatever he wants. Musk, whose efforts have become the

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Speaker 2: subject of several lawsuits and prompted concerns from Republican lawmakers.

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Speaker 2: Cabinet officials almost uniformly like the concept of what mister

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Speaker 2: Musk set out to do reducing waste, fraud and abusing government,

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Speaker 2: but had been frustrated by the hacksaw approach to up

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Speaker 2: ending the government and the lack of consistent coordination. We

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Speaker 2: have hailed his approach to rocketry in that they fail

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Speaker 2: fast and learn faster. It's a different thing approaching government,

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Speaker 2: though for a variety of reasons. And there are aspects

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Speaker 2: of what he's done and how he's done it that

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Speaker 2: remind me of his rocketry stuff. And you can't always

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Speaker 2: adapt a methodology from one thing to another completely smoothly.

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Speaker 2: So again this strikes me is it sounds true and

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Speaker 2: it's not shocking, But the other reality of Elon Musk

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Speaker 2: in the way he does things is he learns from

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Speaker 2: it and adjusts. Last part I'll read Thursday's meeting, which

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Speaker 2: was abruptly scheduled on Wednesday evening, was it's a sign

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Speaker 2: that mister Trump is mindful of the growing complaints. I'll

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Speaker 2: bet all these people have gone to him said, dude,

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Speaker 2: you gotta do something about Elon being up my shorts. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Trump tried to offer each side something by praising both

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Speaker 2: mister Musk and his cabinet secretaries. At least one treachery secretary,

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Speaker 2: Scott Bessant, who has had tents encounters related to mister

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Speaker 2: Musk's team, was not president. The President made clear he

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Speaker 2: still supported Dog's mission, but now was the time, he said,

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Speaker 2: to be a bit more refined in the approach. From

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Speaker 2: now on, Trump said the secretaries would be in charge,

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Speaker 2: as you just heard in that last clip, and the

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Speaker 2: Musk team would only advise. So he said that out

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Speaker 2: loud in front of Musk and all the secretaries. From

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Speaker 2: now on, Doge advises secretaries are in charge of who

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Speaker 2: gets laid off, fired, lectured, whatever.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, Right, Yeah, yeah, all right, I am not troubled

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Speaker 1: by all right, a little too much, too fast, rained

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Speaker 1: it in a little bit as oppose to the exact opposite, which.

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Speaker 2: Has existed for a generation. Doesn't bother me either. Mister Musk,

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Speaker 2: who wore a suit and tie to Thursday's meeting instead

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Speaker 2: of his usual T shirt after mister Trump publicly ribbed

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Speaker 2: him about his sloppy appearance, defended himself by saying that

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Speaker 2: he has three companies with a market cap of tens

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Speaker 2: of billions of dollars and that his results speak for themselves.

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Speaker 2: He must have been feeling a little cornered to have

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Speaker 2: to throw that out there. Yes, yeah, I My guess

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Speaker 2: would be just from what I know of Elon, And

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Speaker 2: I keep meaning to read that Walter Isacson book, because

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Speaker 2: Walter Isacson got to follow Elon around for weeks and months,

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Speaker 2: and I just want to know more about the way

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Speaker 2: Elon works. Elon seems to flip from thing to thing,

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Speaker 2: which he gets to do, and like he gets super

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Speaker 2: into like the new Tesla thing, and then I think

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Speaker 2: he gets bored with it. Now I wonder what's going

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Speaker 2: on with the Rocket company, and then I wonder how

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Speaker 2: are doing with the chips and the monkey brains, And

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Speaker 2: I just think either out of Okay, fine, you don't

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Speaker 2: like the way I'm doing it, I'm gonna go over

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Speaker 2: here and work on chips and monkey brains. I just

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Speaker 2: think at some point he's gonna be He's gonna hand

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Speaker 2: it off to somebody, and you're not gonna hear much

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Speaker 2: from Elon. He ain't gonna be around DC all the time. Right.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I suspect so too. You know, another way

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Speaker 1: to look at this couple of things. I remember in

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Speaker 1: school I used to hate when we had to do

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Speaker 1: group projects. And this is this is not some sort

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Speaker 1: of weird, humble brag, but it always was the case

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Speaker 1: that it would slow me down.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Later in life, as you know, I got to choose

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Speaker 1: who I worked with and all it became like a

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Speaker 1: privilege and great to work with other people with great ideas,

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Speaker 1: and but in school, especially when you're randomly assigned, you know,

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Speaker 1: I can do this a lot faster and a lot

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Speaker 1: better if I don't have to, you know, include you. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: Elon Musk has that personality to his core because he's

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Speaker 1: like unspeakably brilliant and mind bogglingly energetic. So I get

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Speaker 1: that one hundred percent, and you can make that work

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Speaker 1: Steve jobs in a private corporation. But the very nature

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Speaker 1: of our government, with the three branches of government, and

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Speaker 1: then the layers of how they function within each branch,

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Speaker 1: and then how they interrelate. You cannot have a mad

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Speaker 1: genius run that the way he runs SpaceX.

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Speaker 2: You just can't. Those of us. On the other end

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Speaker 2: of the personality spectrum, you get into a group setting

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Speaker 2: and you got some gung hole person like Joe, and

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Speaker 2: you think he usually gets good greates feel free. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you knock yourself out, and I'll sit here and stare

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Speaker 2: at my zipper while you do all the work and

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Speaker 2: are going to be also and awesome, not even out

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Speaker 2: the window at the birds. We all finish strong next.

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Speaker 6: Pro Palestinian protesters really think they're in charge.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 6: They think they can go to the Dean, go to

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Speaker 6: the president of these Ivy League universities and tell them

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Speaker 6: they have a long list of demands, saying they're not

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Speaker 6: going to stop until they get what they want. Even

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Speaker 6: though President Trump is threatened to pull that funding and

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Speaker 6: throw those agitators behind bars, the chaos continues. The students

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Speaker 6: who have their faces covered all the time with the

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Speaker 6: headscarf set up what they called a liberation zone inside

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Speaker 6: of the library at Barnard College, chanting Free Palestine and

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Speaker 6: blocking the doors for how long? At least four hours.

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Speaker 2: Students who pay.

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Speaker 6: Big money intuition couldn't even get inside to studies.

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Speaker 1: Wow, I'm always going on about how badly we need

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Speaker 1: to reform the university system.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we just stand back. Yeah, no kidding, let it

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Speaker 2: tear itself down. My first thought on hearing that if

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Speaker 2: I was the dean, you see, the thing you always

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Speaker 2: got to remember about these stories is the dean agrees

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Speaker 2: with them. That's why this goes on. But if I

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Speaker 2: were the dean, they come in there and they say,

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Speaker 2: here's our list of demands.

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Speaker 1: I think, okay, good for you, and here's my list

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Speaker 1: of responses. One middle finger, two middle fingers, knock yourself out,

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Speaker 1: hand me the demands, and if you don't meet them

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Speaker 1: by midnight tonight, we're gonna okay, well, if you block

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Speaker 1: the doors of the library, we're gonna kick out of school.

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Speaker 8: The end.

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Speaker 2: That's the end of the.

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Speaker 1: Discussion, right right, Stephen Miller, We've got the clip, But

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Speaker 1: why bother, he says, Look, Trump's made it clear, expel

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Speaker 1: these students are you're gonna lose the funding. And I

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Speaker 1: don't know exactly what that enforcement mechanism looks like, but

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Speaker 1: by Gully, we have let our university system go completely

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Speaker 1: seeking up.

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Speaker 2: You wouldn't say so if you got students going to

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Speaker 2: the dean and say here's our list of demands and

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Speaker 2: you must meet them, and the dan acts like he

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Speaker 2: needs to like that. If you saw the video, is

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Speaker 2: this I think the same dean from Barnard asking permission

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Speaker 2: to go to the bathroom when he was being held

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Speaker 2: against his will a couple of weeks ago. What that

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Speaker 2: ought to be known from coast to coast.

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Speaker 1: People ought to know in every burg in America that

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Speaker 1: that happened and and understand what it means, because that's

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Speaker 1: a power symbol, but powerful symbol. But so much of

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Speaker 1: the media is uncomfortable reporting this. Oh and on that topic,

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Speaker 1: I have laid out a couple of times the thought,

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Speaker 1: the question the request that I can't picture any result

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Speaker 1: to the Israel Hamas thing other than the complete annihilation

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Speaker 1: of Hamas and Israeli control over the Palestinian territories or

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Speaker 1: a massive change in the leadership among Palestinians. And nobody's

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Speaker 1: ever said no, Joe, here's what you're missing. Nobody has

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Speaker 1: ever responded to that. If you'd like to mail bag

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Speaker 1: at armstrong ineddy dot com.

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Speaker 2: I believe in a two states solution.

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Speaker 8: Oh strong Strong Strong.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's good. Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.

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Speaker 1: Hey, le's get a final thought from everybody on the crew.

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Speaker 1: To wrap things up for the day. In the week,

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Speaker 1: there is our technical director, Michelangelo.

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Speaker 2: Michael.

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Speaker 4: Well, my dad shared the same birthday as your son, Jack,

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Speaker 4: And as a tribute to my dad, I'm gonna eat

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Speaker 4: some maybe prime reb or Mexican food. I'm just glad

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Speaker 4: he had good taste that you know, he didn't eat

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Speaker 1: Oh, agreed, Katie Greener esteemed Newswoman As a final thought, Katie, I.

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Speaker 6: Just opened my new slip on knee braces for the gym,

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Speaker 6: and I just have to tell you, guys, I am so.

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Speaker 2: Relieved that they came with a user manual, actually instructions

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Speaker 2: on how to use your knee brace. You slip it

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Speaker 2: on over your knee. I see that's it, but there's more.

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Speaker 2: Huh okay, Jack, a final thought? Uh yeah, make it

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Speaker 2: without it. Uh yeah, here here. My final thought is

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Speaker 2: all right, have one.

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Speaker 1: App up and thinking about the university system because I'm

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Speaker 1: so bothered by it.

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Speaker 2: I didn't get to it mentally, Joe Getty worn down

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Speaker 2: by life. We are partly wow.

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Speaker 1: I'm frustrated my golf game got canceled tomorrow. I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna play with a buddy of mine, but it got

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Speaker 2: I'm taking my birthday boy oldest son and a couple

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Speaker 2: they're gonna have a really good time and want me

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Speaker 2: to not be around. I have a feeling armstrong and

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Speaker 2: Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.

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Speaker 2: hell is that elsewhere that will see you on Monday?

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Speaker 2: God bless America. Armstrong and Getty. We're unquestionably in poor

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Speaker 2: taste and.

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Speaker 3: You know what, everybody knows it.

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Speaker 2: They need to tone it down. And I think I

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Speaker 2: have the power to end this. Doesn't that sounds crazy? Well,

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Speaker 2: first of all, I'll show you whatever part you want

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Speaker 2: to see for a five spot. If there's any demand,

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Speaker 2: final message that great Friday, Armstrong and Gaddy