1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio News. Welcome to the Bloomberg 2 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: This Weekend podcast with David Gura, Christina Raffini, and Elisa Matteo. 3 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 2: We're covering a lot of breaking news this morning out 4 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 2: of the Middle East, the US taking extraordinary strikes on Iran. 5 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 2: We have a statement from the present that he posted 6 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 2: in the early morning hours. We're going to have news reports, 7 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 2: analysis over the course of this morning, as we will 8 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 2: every weekend Saturdays in Sundation from seven o'clock to ten 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 2: o'clock on Bloomberg Television, Bloomberg Radio, streaming on the Bloomberg 10 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: Business app, and at Bloomberg dot com as well. And 11 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: Christina sufice to say, we're both woken early by all. 12 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 3: Of this news, quite early. 13 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 4: This was not quite the show we had planned today, 14 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 4: as we just mentioned, but look, this is why we're here, 15 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 4: this is where our teams are in and this is 16 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 4: one of the great things about being at Bloomberg is 17 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 4: people were awake all night, people were online immediately and 18 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 4: reporting this out. We want to play you some more 19 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 4: of the sound from that startling about eight minute statement 20 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 4: the President dropped on social media this morning. Again, he 21 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 4: didn't call the press pool. He didn't notify everyone. While 22 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 4: we talked to our reporter in mar Lago, and she 23 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 4: said she found out when the rest of the world 24 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 4: did post it online. Among some of the many remarkable 25 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 4: things in that statement, including a declaration of war against 26 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 4: Iran and a call for regime change, the President also 27 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 4: said this campaign could cost American lives. 28 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 5: The lives of courageous American heroes may be lost, and 29 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 5: we may have casualties that often happens in war. But 30 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 5: we're doing this not for now. We're doing this for 31 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 5: the future, and it is a noble mission. We pray 32 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 5: for every service member as they selflessly risk their lives 33 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 5: to ensure that Americans and our children will never be 34 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 5: threatened by a nuclear armed Iran. We ask God to 35 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 5: protect all of our heroes in harm's way, and we 36 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 5: trust that with his help, the men and women of 37 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 5: the Armed Forces will prevail. We have the greatest in 38 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 5: the world. They will prevail. To the members of the 39 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 5: Islamic Revolutionary Guard, the Armed Forces, and all of the police. 40 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 5: I say tonight that you must lay down your weapons 41 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 5: and have complete immunity, or, in the alternative, face certain death. 42 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 5: So lay down your arms. You will be treated fairly 43 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 5: with total immunity, or you will face certain death. Finally, 44 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 5: to the great, proud people of Iran, I say tonight 45 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 5: that the hour of your freedom is at hand. Stay sheltered, 46 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 5: don't leave your home. It's very dangerous outside. Bombs will 47 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 5: be dropping everywhere. When we are finished take over your government, 48 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 5: it will be yours to take. This will be probably 49 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 5: your only chance for generations. For many years you have 50 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 5: asked for America's help, but you never got it. No 51 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 5: president was willing to do what I am willing to 52 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 5: do tonight. Now you have a president who is giving 53 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 5: you what you want. So let's see how you respond. 54 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 5: America is backing you with overwhelming strength and devastating force. 55 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 5: Now is the time to seize control of your destiny 56 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 5: and to unleash the prosperous and glorious future that is 57 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 5: close within your reach. This is the moment for action. 58 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 5: Do not let it pass. May God bless the brave 59 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 5: men and women of America's Armed forces. May God bless 60 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 5: the United States of America. May God bless you all. 61 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 5: Thank you. 62 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: The last two minutes of that extraordinary statement from the 63 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 2: President of United States released on truth social early this morning, 64 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 2: well before dawn. Our coverage spans the globe, and I'm 65 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 2: going to bring in Dan Williams, Jerusalem based correspondent for 66 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: Bloomberg newslam that Jemann top set, you, the anchor of 67 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 2: Horizons on Bloomberg Television, Joe Matthew, the anchor of Balance 68 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 2: of Power, and Jeff Mason, White House correspondent with us 69 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: on set here in New York. Jimani, we're just talking 70 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 2: about your current circumstance, the fact that you've been hearing 71 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: these strikes where you're sitting. I want to go to 72 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: that entreaty from the President of the United States there 73 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 2: at the end, urging Iranians to lay down their weapons. 74 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: I should point out here these are airstrikes, and one 75 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 2: wonders what the logical next steps would be were one 76 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: to do that on the ground in Iran. And I'm 77 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 2: curious how you're thinking about that. The President calling for 78 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 2: Iranians effectively to rise up, calling on the Revolutionary. 79 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 4: Guard those who do lay down their weapons, but. 80 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 3: What mechanisms in place to do that. 81 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: Talk about that challenge, if you would, Jumana, in these 82 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 2: next few hours and days. 83 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, it's a huge challenge, and I think from 84 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 6: what we can gather, just the retaliation that all of 85 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 6: these Gulf states have seen and witness of the last 86 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 6: few hours, suggests that the Iranian regime isn't going to 87 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 6: go down quietly. They've been reading themselves for the real 88 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 6: possibility of military action. 89 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 4: They have responded very quickly. 90 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 6: Remember and the twelve day Iran Israel war, it took 91 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 6: them a couple of days to calibrate their response. This 92 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 6: time they were ready to go, and they have targeted 93 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 6: multiple countries. I will tell you, I'm sitting here in 94 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 6: Dubai and fifteen minutes ago I heard a couple of 95 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 6: blasts and it seems as so they're not sparing any 96 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 6: Gulf state in so far as the US has assets 97 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 6: in those countries. So we're talking about the UAE, We're 98 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 6: talking about Kuttar Bahrain, Jordan, Kuwait, Iraq. All of these 99 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 6: countries are involved, so it. 100 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,679 Speaker 4: Has become a regional war. 101 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 6: And what we know from authorities in all of these 102 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 6: countries is that most of the missiles and drones have 103 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 6: been intercepted, so there don't appear to be any civilian 104 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 6: casualties from the strikes themselves. There has been one casualty 105 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 6: in Abu Dabian Bako shrapnel, But that is the bigger 106 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 6: issue here because a short while ago it was reported 107 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 6: that the Foreign Minister Abbasa actually actually didn't make a 108 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 6: call to his counterparts in all those countries and warned 109 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 6: them about them allowing the US to use their basis 110 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 6: to launch further strikes on Iran. So this would suggest 111 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 6: that Iran are intent on retaliating. Now when it comes 112 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 6: to the demonstrators, I mean you have to rewind back 113 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 6: a month ago. There was and uprising, but it was 114 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 6: brutally put down and there are unofficial numbers that have 115 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 6: come through. We don't know the exact death death toll, 116 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 6: but the number is put forward by human rights agencies 117 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 6: suggest that thirty thousand people, more than thirty thousand people 118 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 6: were killed in these demonstrations. So there is a wariness, 119 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 6: i think in Tehran amongst the population and a real 120 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 6: question as to what exactly the US's assistance actually looks 121 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 6: like and whether the focus here is to target once 122 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 6: again military infrastructure, perhaps key individuals within the Iranian regime, 123 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 6: but in terms of actual support on the ground, what 124 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 6: does that look like? Because once again the stakes are 125 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 6: very high. And this is an Iranian regime we spoke 126 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 6: about in the prior hour that is very intense on 127 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 6: its own survival. It's an existential threat to them and 128 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 6: they will not go down easily. 129 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 4: And I run in xpacts I've spoken to recently in 130 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 4: the US who despise this regime with every fiber of 131 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 4: their being. Still have family in Tehran. I talked to 132 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 4: a woman who said her family she hadn't spoken to 133 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 4: them in days during the last round of strikes because 134 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 4: they had gone to the mountains to try to hide 135 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 4: from these air assaults. So these are the people the 136 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 4: Trump administration is trying to appeal to, But at the 137 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 4: same time, these are the people who are being put 138 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 4: in harm's way, as well as our colleagues and friends 139 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 4: and other people throughout the region. Dan, I understand you 140 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 4: are now outside and say, I hope you've emerged from 141 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 4: a shelter. I'm wondering if you're hearing any more from 142 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 4: the Israeli government. This morning, I reached out to the 143 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 4: embassy here and they said they're not speaking yet. I'm 144 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 4: wondering if you're hearing anything on your side of the world. 145 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 7: As of now, No, there have been procedural updates, for example, 146 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 7: from the Transportation Minister about conditions at Israel's airports. The 147 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 7: Israeli airspaces closed, as are the airspaces of other relevant 148 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 7: countries in the region that obviously will affect air traffic, 149 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 7: travel and the like. 150 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 3: They've also been called to. 151 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 7: Shelters very regularly, usually divvied up by sector, by city, 152 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 7: by community, by part of the country. These readies have 153 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 7: been weathered two such missile attacks going back all the 154 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 7: way to nineteen ninety one the Gulf War, and over 155 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 7: those three and a half decades have been developing a 156 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 7: very sophisticated system that really homes down to the areas 157 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 7: likely to be affected by any specific launch. So basically, 158 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 7: if you are in the line of fire where you 159 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 7: happen to live, or potentially in the line of five 160 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 7: for debris that could emerge for an interception of a 161 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 7: missile above way, you are a missile intended for another 162 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 7: part of the country, you'll receive a timely warning to 163 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 7: go down to shelters. That's happened already a half dozen 164 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 7: times since this really blew up at just past eight 165 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 7: am this morning, just past ten in the Gulf and 166 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 7: we've been seeing that repeatedly. I think part of the 167 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 7: reason the Iranians have succeeded, apparently in scoring strikes in 168 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 7: those golf targets, as Jumana alluded to, is it comes 169 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 7: down as much to range as anything else. Israel is 170 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 7: well over a thousand and kilometers away. Those golf targets 171 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 7: are in some cases just a few hundred kil klometers 172 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 7: away from the Iranian launch points. That means there's far 173 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 7: less time to prepare for those incoming missiles to intercept them, 174 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 7: to mount an interception. Obviously, when you're across the region 175 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 7: as Israel is, and Israel has a very sophisticated defense 176 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 7: of race system, then it's easy to track those missiles 177 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 7: and see them coming. I expect after Prime Minister is 178 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 7: and now put out that recorded message very close to 179 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 7: President Trump's message. In fact, the content tracking almost exactly 180 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 7: with what Trump said. 181 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 3: These Raeli's also calling on. 182 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 7: The Iranian people, Iranian people of all communities and sectors 183 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 7: to rise up and take hold of their destiny. Now 184 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 7: that the Iranian government is apparently receiving a drubbing at 185 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 7: the hands of the combined US and Israeli forces, we 186 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 7: won't hear back from him until I think nightfall when 187 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 7: the Jewish Sabbath ends here in Israel. 188 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 4: That's a really good point, Dan. I mean in June, 189 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 4: during that twelve day back and forth, we did watch 190 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 4: the Iron Dome very successfully intercept most of those minisions. 191 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 4: There were a few they got through, but for the 192 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 4: most part, what you were seeing watching those screens was 193 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 4: actually the interceptors going out and taking on those Aaran 194 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 4: clearly knew this was a possibility and recalculated what they 195 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 4: would strike and one. 196 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 2: Matthew, let me stick with this theme of surprise, and 197 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 2: I know that you were listening as I was to 198 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 2: Courtney Supermanian who's with the White House pool at mar 199 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 2: A Lago, noting that she was as surprise as all 200 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 2: of us by the presentation of that statement. Early in 201 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: the morning. She saw it pop up online as we 202 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 2: all did. I'm curious about lawmakers and how surprised they were. 203 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 2: I saw reporting earlier this morning from The New York 204 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 2: Times that Jack Read's communications director, Jack Read, of course, 205 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 2: the ranking member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, was 206 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 2: given no advanced notice of this. One wonders about the 207 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 2: so called Gang of Eight, the leadership from the House 208 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 2: and the Senate, the leading members of the select intelligence committees, 209 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 2: as well any indication if they were given any heads 210 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 2: up here. 211 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 8: This was actually just have learned at a Bloomberg News 212 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 8: that the Gang of Eight did get a heads up 213 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 8: on this, which did not happen for instance, when the 214 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 8: US went into Venezuela to captured Nicholas Mduro, and there 215 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 8: was a bit of outrage when Marco Rubio, at the 216 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 8: time the Secretary of State, suggested that they couldn't trust 217 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 8: members of Congress to not leak that information, and the 218 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 8: Gang of Eight is quite well known for not doing that. 219 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 8: These are the two party leaders in each chamber, and 220 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 8: leader and ranking member of both intel committees. That would 221 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 8: include Mark Warner, who is out with the statement this 222 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 8: morning demanding a war powers vote. And it gets back 223 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 8: to this idea of a prolonged engagement, which the President 224 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 8: is clearly telegraphing. The Speaker of the House was also briefed, 225 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 8: we understand, and I suspect that that came from the 226 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 8: same place. Whether there's going to be a classified briefing 227 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 8: for all members now will be the next question, And 228 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 8: I suspect in the days ahead they'll be demanding that. 229 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 4: And Jeff correct my memory, but I think that's a 230 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 4: departure from when the US struck arounds nuclear facilities earlier 231 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 4: in last year in the summer, because I remember hearing 232 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 4: a lot of griping from Congress that members hadn't been notified. 233 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 4: Maybe some Republicans had, but I don't think the full 234 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 4: G eight was notified. 235 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 3: No, I think your memory is right on that. 236 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 9: And just to sort of take a broader look or standback, 237 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 9: look at that. You heard the president use the language 238 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 9: and use the word war. Well, Congress has the right 239 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 9: to declare war. And that could be another major tension 240 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 9: point politically in Washington. The fact that the president, though 241 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 9: some lawmakers may have been given a heads up, he 242 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 9: didn't go and ask permission. 243 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 3: He didn't ask Congress to get behind this. 244 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 9: He went ahead and did it. This is another example 245 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 9: I think that some critics would say of the Congress, 246 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 9: which of course is controlled by Republicans, giving up powers 247 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 9: that the Constitution gives them to the executive. That's been 248 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 9: true with tariffs as well. This, of course on a 249 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 9: major foreign policy level, and debate. 250 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 4: About the Warpowers Act is not exclusive to this president. 251 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 4: This was an issue for Democratic presidents, it's an issue 252 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 4: for Republican This has been as long as we've covered Washington, 253 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 4: this has been something Congress has complained about. But to me, 254 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 4: the fact that usually when you hear presidents announce strikes 255 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 4: like this, they dance around this specifically so they don't 256 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 4: come into direct conduct. What does it tell you about 257 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 4: the power dynamic between Congress and this White House that 258 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 4: the President is outright saying this is a war, It 259 00:12:58,240 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 4: could be protracted, and there could be American case. 260 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 9: I think it's just another example of the strengthening of 261 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 9: the executive that has happened under President Trump's second term. 262 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 9: I mean, he has claimed powers in many times, many 263 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 9: ways that are not his. He has used executive orders 264 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 9: to govern more so than legislation, which is not to 265 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 9: downplay the legislation, the legislative victories that he also had 266 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 9: in terms of tax cuts, and that has been attention 267 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:24,359 Speaker 9: point in Washington. It's been attention point with certainly with Democrats. 268 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 9: The question is whether Democrat Republicans, rather as Joe was 269 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 9: referencing earlier, are going to rise up against that as well. 270 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 3: Certainly I can guarantee you if. 271 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 9: This were a Democratic president in office, they would not 272 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 9: be standing for this. 273 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 3: But that has been a. 274 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 9: Hallmark character that has been a hallmark of the Republican 275 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 9: response to President Trump's second term is that they don't 276 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 9: stand up. So will this be a line that they 277 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 9: feel he's crossed? 278 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 2: TVD Jamani, you heard Dan talking about the alignment in 279 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 2: those statements between Prime Minister and net Nyahu and President Trump. 280 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 2: I want to ask you about how effectively golf leaders 281 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 2: have been able to make their case to President Trump 282 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 2: in the run up to all of this. We saw 283 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 2: that inaugural meeting of the Board of Peace in Washington, 284 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 2: d C. Many golf leaders party to that, and we're 285 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 2: present for that first meeting. I guess there is some 286 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 2: inherent ineffectiveness here, but what is that level of communication, 287 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 2: the quality of that communication like between golf leaders and 288 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 2: the president right now? 289 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 6: I mean, you've got to be thinking that, You've got 290 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 6: to be thinking they're working on the channels. We just 291 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 6: got a statement put out by the Saudi Arabian Pharmastry 292 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 6: calling for an immediate de escalation, saying that they stand 293 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 6: in unity with their golf allies in the region, the 294 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 6: ones who had been targeted and for Golf states, look, 295 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 6: this is of utmost priority. The escalation is of utmost priority. 296 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 6: And I think you know, when it comes to the 297 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 6: relationship with Iran, I wouldn't say that there's a huge 298 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 6: amount of love lost between many of these Golf nations 299 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 6: and the Iranian regime. But that being said, for them, 300 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 6: what is more important in the region in the context 301 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 6: of their own economic visions, because many of these countries 302 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 6: are undergoing ECONO trans transformation, is political stability, and that 303 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 6: has been a consistent theme. If you speak to the 304 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 6: leaders in these various Gulf states, they will tell you 305 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 6: that they don't want this crisis to spiral out of control. 306 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 6: And viewers may recall that a couple of years ago, 307 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 6: twenty twenty three, that was actually a mediation that was 308 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 6: brokered by China between Saudi Arabia and Iran to sort 309 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 6: of restore diplomatic relationships or both sides pledged non interference 310 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 6: in each other's affairs, and that was a big step. 311 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 3: It was a big mouthpone in. 312 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 6: The region because you may also recall that in prior incidents, 313 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 6: Saudi IRANQO facilities in Kai were also subject to retaliation 314 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 6: from Iran. So this time around, they've been working very 315 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 6: aggressively the last couple of years to ensure that those 316 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 6: type of strikes don't happen again. And yet here we 317 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 6: are on a daylight today where every single US based 318 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 6: military base, or not every single but every single country 319 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 6: that is ho staying at US base has been targeted 320 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 6: with the Iranian retaliation. So they would be looking upon 321 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 6: this with a lot of consternation concern about what happens next. 322 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 6: Obviously pushing for a big de escalation here, working those 323 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 6: diplomatic channels, but it's unlikely at this point that things 324 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 6: can calm down or de escalate because the messaging that's 325 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 6: come through, at least from the Israeli side, is that 326 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 6: this is an operation that's going to go on for days, 327 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 6: and as long as that happens, you would think that 328 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 6: also the Gulf States and their assets, the US assets 329 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 6: in the region will continue to be targets. 330 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 4: I also want to update our audience. Coordney Supermann, in 331 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 4: our White House correspondent in mar Lago with the President 332 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 4: updates us and confirms that we are not expected to 333 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 4: get further remarks from President Trump today. Dan, I want 334 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 4: to go to you and ask about President Trump and 335 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 4: the relationship between him and Benjamin Netanyahu. This has been 336 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 4: two leaders who were very close and then had it 337 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 4: been of a tiff, the romance seemed to be over, 338 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 4: and then it has reignited in recent months. The Prime 339 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 4: Minister was recently at the White House and sources were 340 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 4: telling me Israel officials were coming out of that meeting. 341 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 4: The word they used was giddy. Flashboard. A few weeks 342 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 4: later and we have this joint strike on Iran. Talk 343 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 4: to us about that relationship and how much influence you 344 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 4: think then has over President Trump when it comes to 345 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 4: taking action in Iran. 346 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 3: I think he has a great deal of influence. 347 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 7: Indeed, there was something of a falling out in between 348 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 7: the two Trump administrations. Famously, Trump, then out of office 349 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 7: in mar Lago, used the effort about Nita. I was 350 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 7: unhappy about these radiister Prime Minister being so quick to 351 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 7: recognize President Biden's election win. I think that's all well 352 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 7: in the past. I didn't there's any dispute. I think 353 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 7: President Trump would be the first to agree with this. 354 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 7: This is a president who really enjoys success and ad 355 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 7: Maya's success, and I think after the catastrophe of October seventh. 356 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 7: The way these readly government and military were blindsided by 357 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 7: that Hamas attack two and a half years ago. Ntanneo, 358 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 7: veteran prime minister, the longest serving prime minister, with his 359 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 7: eye firmly on his historical legacy and also the needs 360 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 7: of the country in the given moment, put his mind 361 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 7: not just to turning around the situation in Gaza, but 362 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 7: effectively revolutionizing revolutionary bring about revolutionary. 363 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 3: Change to the Middle East at large. 364 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 7: Israel went on the offensive on several fronts against other 365 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 7: Iranian allies. Hamas has enjoyed Iranian patronage for a very 366 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 7: long time, as has Hizballah in Lebanon, Shiite groups in Iraq, 367 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 7: certain groups in Syria until very recently, and then again 368 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 7: the Huthis in Yemen are also aligned with Iran and 369 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 7: now Israel with a healthy United States, it took taking 370 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 7: on Iran directly. So I think what's clear here is 371 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 7: that Trump has been persuaded. It may have been by 372 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 7: other forces, may have been for his own reading of history. 373 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 7: He'll be someone who will remember the Iran Crisis of 374 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 7: nineteen seventy nine, the Iranian Revolution, when the US embassy 375 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 7: was taken over and many of the staff held hostage 376 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 7: for a long time. 377 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 3: He will be aware of that. 378 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 7: There are also US allegations that Iran has been behind 379 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 7: assassination attempts or at least one against this president, who 380 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 7: survived two assassination attempts, active assassination attempts in recent months. 381 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 7: So it would appear a combination of the council of 382 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 7: the Israeli Prime minister, prime minister he trusts to get 383 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 7: the job done and potentially to give him a solid 384 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 7: accounting of the realities of the Middle East and his 385 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 7: own ideas about his historical place or US priorities in 386 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 7: the Middle East, and how US interests might be served. 387 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 3: By seeing a change of regime in Iran. 388 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 7: It seems that they've coalesced in this day that we've seen, 389 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 7: and also, as noted six months ago in June, they 390 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 7: stressed this relationship with the United States joining the Israelis 391 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 7: in what was then a surprise attack against Iran. The 392 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 7: US joined in, and now they joined in at the 393 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 7: outset with the US prepositioning planes in Israel, which. 394 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 3: Itself is without precedence. 395 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 7: So yes, there is a very tight relationship between these 396 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 7: men that goes well beyond the rapul to what appears 397 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 7: to be a common understanding of the Middle East. 398 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 2: Joe, at a moment like this, one tends to look 399 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 2: back on what happened in the preceding days. You were 400 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 2: on Capitol Hill for the State of the Union, watching 401 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 2: the president advisors come in. That's right, that seems that 402 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 2: feels like a thousand years ago. General Kin was there. 403 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 2: Of course, Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State as well. 404 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 2: In fact, we were talking yesterday Christina and I. Marco Ruba, 405 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 2: the Secretary of State, is still having a plan to 406 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 2: go to Israel over. 407 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 3: The course of weekend. 408 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 4: It was announced yesterday. Yesterday. 409 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 2: I wonder how you think about that show the run 410 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 2: up to this. Again, I keep going back to this 411 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 2: theme of surprise, but what you've observed sort of the 412 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 2: apparatus surrounding all of this. Yes, we've heard from the President, 413 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 2: but the degree to which he's been engaging with and 414 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 2: we've heard from his advisors on national security, defense and diplomacy. 415 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, And of course at that point when we were 416 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 8: in the Capital for State of the Union, the storyline 417 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 8: was one of optimism that they were gearing up for 418 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 8: talks on Thursday. President said ten to fifteen days. By 419 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 8: the way, this is ten days on the spot. I'm 420 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 8: not sure if you guys noticed that, which is kind 421 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 8: of interesting, But you know, Marco Rubio, that's also very 422 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 8: true and really no new insight into justification. It certainly 423 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 8: wasn't amounting to what we heard in this video overnight. 424 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 8: Of course, they clearly knew this, and he had a 425 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 8: briefing by the Sentcom commander on Thursday A little did 426 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 8: we know that was probably a briefing about how the 427 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 8: attack was ready to go. Look, this is going to 428 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 8: play differently with different members of the cabinet. 429 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 3: You point out Marco. 430 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 8: Rubio reminding everyone of the tension between Marco Rubio and JD. 431 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 8: Vance as the potential air apparent of this president and 432 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 8: of MAGA. This is going to be very difficult for jd. 433 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 8: Vance to telegraph publicly. So he's going to have to 434 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 8: support this obviously as a member of the administration, but 435 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 8: to make this in America first, we need to do 436 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 8: this now as a domestic issue for him, knowing that 437 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 8: he wants to run in twenty eight it's going to 438 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 8: be tough. 439 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 3: Jeff. 440 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 4: I want to play you a bit more sound from 441 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 4: the President's remarks this morning. No apologize, we've heard the 442 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 4: presence from Marx this morning, but I want to play 443 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 4: you sound from the President speaking yesterday corpor Chrisky Texas 444 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 4: because listening to what he said in the State of 445 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 4: the Union, listening to the messaging up into this speech 446 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 4: as we were all trying to read the tea leaves 447 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 4: last night, when I heard this, I thought, uh oh, 448 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 4: so let's play listen you can give you They don't. 449 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 5: Want to quite go far enough and stupid. Look, we've 450 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 5: been playing with him for forty seven years, and that's 451 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 5: a long time. They've been blowing the legs off our people, 452 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 5: blowing the face off our people. The arms, they've been 453 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 5: knocking out chips one by one, and every month. 454 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 3: Is something else. So you can't put up with it 455 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 3: to long. 456 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 5: We're not happy with the negotiation. They just don't want 457 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 5: to They don't want to say the keywords we're not 458 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 5: going to have a nuclear weapon. 459 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 4: Was that the President tipping his hat there for people 460 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 4: who were listening, and what are the ramifications for this? 461 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 4: As we look at the bigger geopolitical strategy, I'm talking 462 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 4: about potential conflicts like China, Taiwana. Head of the president's 463 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 4: visit to China and then of course Russia and Ukraine. 464 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 4: Does this impact that? 465 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 3: Sure? 466 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 9: So Number one, I think he probably was telegraphing it. 467 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 9: And I think it's interesting as well, because this is 468 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 9: a president who has made clear almost from day one 469 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 9: that he's interested in getting the Nobel Peace Prize. And 470 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 9: yet he's also a president who is very, very interested 471 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 9: in using the forces that are available to him in 472 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 9: terms of military power, and he's certainly done that now 473 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 9: in Iran. On the broader geopolitical ramifications, I thought it 474 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 9: was very interesting to hear earlier what Russia Russia's reaction 475 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 9: to this. I'm sure some would call that very rich 476 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 9: to have Russia saying that this is an unprovoked attack 477 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 9: and not in line with an international norms, considering the 478 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 9: fact that Russia of course invaded Ukraine. 479 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 3: But that again that does have ramifications for this. 480 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 9: How does that change this administration, the Trump administration's ability 481 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 9: to form a piece deal there, which, of course President 482 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 9: Trumps said he want you rightly said, the President is 483 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 9: going to China in about a month. There's always this 484 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 9: sort of threats or a concern of China potentially invading Taiwan. 485 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 9: What kind of message does the United States strike on 486 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 9: another country, in this case Iran, send to China in 487 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 9: terms of whether that would be accepted or acceptable. 488 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 2: Our colleague Tony helping it heads up our Russia coverage 489 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 2: making a very good point in light of the statement 490 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 2: that you just mentioned there. What the showcase is, in fact, 491 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,479 Speaker 2: is the reduced capacity of Russia and Vladimir Putin to 492 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 2: defend its long standing allies in the Middle East. I 493 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 2: wonder what you think about that. We have seen, certainly 494 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 2: with Iran, the damage to a lot of its proxies 495 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 2: in the region. And Russia for so long was a 496 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 2: patron of a lot of these countries, Iran chief among 497 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 2: them in supporting them against the prospect of this kind 498 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 2: of aggression, and. 499 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 4: We saw this in Syria. You know what was one 500 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 4: of the big reasons that regime couldn't hold on is 501 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,959 Speaker 4: it just Russia didn't have the bandwidth to support that 502 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 4: regime as much as they used to. Remember when I 503 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 4: was there quite a few years ago, they were picture 504 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 4: of the Iola of the RGC leaders all over that area, 505 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 4: and you know that's not there anymore. 506 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 8: So it really just reminds us of the disruption in 507 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 8: the in world order that we've seen just in the 508 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 8: president's first year. In this second term, there's a lot 509 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 8: of overlap here, as you're pointing out, and to get 510 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 8: back to what Jeff said, how this impacts a potential 511 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 8: peace deal around Ukraine, the way that it may be 512 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 8: informing the Chinese when it comes to Taiwan, or huge 513 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 8: questions right now, we haven't even brought up Greenland since 514 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 8: we came on the air this week. 515 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us on today's Bloomberg This Weekend podcast. 516 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 4: Don't forget to tune in live for the show every 517 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 4: Saturday and Sunday morning, starting at seven am Eastern. 518 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 2: We're on Bloomberg Television Radio and the Bloomberg Business App, 519 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 2: bringing you unique takes and in depth interviews on news, politics, lifestyle, 520 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 2: and culture.