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Speaker 1: Hey listeners, Niminy here, host of historical records.

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Speaker 2: Get ready to hear about a historical hero through hip hop.

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Speaker 1: slash Historical Records, and now onto the show. After a

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Speaker 1: few words for the grownups, Hey listeners, it's Niminy.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Historical Records.

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Speaker 1: We're doing things a little different on the show today

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Speaker 1: because I am at the gardening store and whoops, I

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Speaker 1: dropped my trowel anyway as I was saying, I'm throwing

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Speaker 1: a garden party tonight's and I.

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Speaker 2: Need a few last minute supplies.

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Speaker 1: For example, these seeds, these pruning snips ooh, and this

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Speaker 1: huge claypot.

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Speaker 3: Oh, dear, cleanup on Aisle five, Herb, please report to

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Speaker 3: the betch to my bad.

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Speaker 2: I'll just grab another large clay pot.

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Speaker 3: Herb clean up on Aisle five stats.

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Speaker 2: I'll just grab another one, Herb co red.

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Speaker 3: Someone is breaking all the pots in Aisle five.

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Speaker 2: What I don't even reads for one? What is happening?

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Speaker 4: Herb?

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Speaker 5: Where are you? This is officially a clean up emergency.

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Speaker 2: Ole fine, where am I?

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Speaker 6: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Calm down? Niminy.

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Speaker 1: You're back at the bunker in your bed. There's no herb,

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Speaker 1: there's no Aisle five. It was all a dream man.

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Speaker 1: I guess I'm a little, how you say, stressed about

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Speaker 1: this garden party.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw later.

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Speaker 1: But you know it's great for stress gardening listeners, let's

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Speaker 1: go check on those plantstick a store of over record calls.

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Speaker 6: You are now listening to historical work.

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Speaker 1: To make history, you got to have struggles to make history.

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Speaker 2: You got to show toys.

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Speaker 1: Cannot be quiet, loud as a riot to make history,

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Speaker 1: you gotta make some noise. Hello, lovely listeners, Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to Historical Records, the show where I dig into historical

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Speaker 1: records in order to produce historically themed records. And by records,

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Speaker 1: I mean songs, which is actually a bit of a

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Speaker 1: history lesson in itself. Did you know songs and albums

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Speaker 1: used to be called records?

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Speaker 2: It's true, And if you have an adult.

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Speaker 1: In your life who still listens to records, be warned

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Speaker 1: that if you ask their opinion about music, they're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk a lot. Now follow me, listeners, We're headed to

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Speaker 1: a part of the bunker you've never been to. Oh hot, Tina,

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Speaker 1: where my headed. I'm on my way to the greenhouse

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Speaker 1: to check on my plants for the garden party later.

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Speaker 2: Where are you going? Oh, that's right. You're nocturnal, so

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Speaker 2: you're going to bed. And that's also.

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Speaker 1: Probably why you're in a dressing gown and a bonnet.

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Speaker 1: And here I thought you were making a bold fashioned choice.

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Speaker 1: Sleep tight, Tina.

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Speaker 2: I hope you don't have any stress dreams about herb

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Speaker 2: Never mind, I'll see you later anyway, listeners.

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Speaker 1: Today's episode of Historical Records is all about Shouty Human,

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Speaker 1: who is known as the mother of the disability rights movement.

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Speaker 1: But before we learn more about her, I need to

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Speaker 1: check up on my plants. I started a bunch of

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Speaker 1: seeds a few weeks ago, and today's the first day

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Speaker 1: I've been able to check up on them. Oh no,

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Speaker 1: all the plants are dead or dying.

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Speaker 2: What have I done?

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Speaker 6: Hey, Niminy, I'm here for the garden party.

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Speaker 2: Me what are you doing here? The party is not

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Speaker 2: for another twelve hours.

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Speaker 4: Ah, well, the invite didn't say whether it was five

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Speaker 4: am or five pm. I thought it was a little

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Speaker 4: weird that a party would start at five am. But

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Speaker 4: you're a little weird, Niminy, like in a good way.

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Speaker 4: So I just went with it.

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Speaker 1: I won't argue with you on that. But I don't

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Speaker 2: Now, just look at this garden. It's not all bad.

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Speaker 4: The leaves on this shrub here are really beautiful, bright yellow.

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Speaker 2: They're supposed to be green.

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Speaker 6: Ooh, yikes. What were the conditions like in here?

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Speaker 1: You know me, I love my gadgets, so I set

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Speaker 1: my UV light timers to sixteen hours a day, programmed

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Speaker 2: Oops, they're going off now. Hope you brought your umbrella.

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Speaker 4: Who would go to a garden party without an umbrella?

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Speaker 6: Niminy. I understand why you programmed.

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Speaker 4: This room the way you did, but it looks like

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Speaker 4: Individual plants need specific conditions to thrive. You can't expect

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Speaker 6: In the same kind of environment.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I guess not. I was just excited to have

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Speaker 4: Is in everything, totally understandable, And actually it makes me

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Speaker 6: Really why I'll show you here?

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Speaker 2: Oh, Lee, I think the party's off.

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Speaker 1: You can put away that bird shaped whistle you brought

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Speaker 4: Actually, this bird whistle is this week's history simulator.

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Speaker 2: Oh you know, I love a name. Let's go.

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Speaker 4: Just as a heads up, this whistle attracts actual birds,

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Speaker 4: so you might see some after I blow on it.

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Speaker 2: That's great. I love birds me too.

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Speaker 4: But just a reminder, there are over eleven thousand species

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Speaker 1: In that case, maybe we should pause because I really

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Speaker 2: Why I don't know, Well, come on, let's fly.

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Speaker 1: Whoa Where did we travel to, Lee? I assumed somewhere

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Speaker 6: No, we're on the south lawn of the White House.

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Speaker 2: What then, why the seagulls? The birds have their.

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Speaker 6: Own reasoning, Nimini, best not to question it. But you

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Speaker 1: There at that platform where a bunch of people are

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, is that President George HW. Bush?

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Speaker 4: Yup and see that woman over there wearing glasses in

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Speaker 6: That's Judy Human.

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Speaker 2: Does Judy Human work at the White House?

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Speaker 6: Not yet.

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Speaker 4: Eventually she does end up working with President Clinton's administration,

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Speaker 4: because President Bush is signing the nineteen ninety Americans with

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Speaker 2: And what did the ADA do.

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Speaker 4: It's a civil rights law that says it's illegal to

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Speaker 2: In what way?

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Speaker 4: Well take Judy for example. When she was a kid,

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Speaker 2: That's not fair.

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Speaker 4: But when the ADA became the law of the land.

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Speaker 4: the ADA helped to make spaces accessible for everyone. Wow,

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Speaker 4: And look do you see how there's an ASL interpreter

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Speaker 1: Yes, I love watching interpreters, especially at concerts.

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Speaker 6: That's part of the ADA too.

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Speaker 4: Judy was part of a movement that wanted to change

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Speaker 1: Seems like everyone here is happy about the ADA getting passed.

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Speaker 1: But is it just me or does Judy seem a

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Speaker 4: Spot on Nimoni. Judy showed up to support this act

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Speaker 4: But she had openly spoken out saying she didn't think

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Speaker 2: She said that to the President.

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Speaker 4: While she said it to the media, so President Bush

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Speaker 2: Oh, I really admire her honesty. Me too.

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Speaker 4: It can be really intimidating to speak up for yourself. Now,

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Speaker 4: let me take you further back to another time when

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Speaker 4: Judy spoke up. Just prepare yourself, because you know the

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Speaker 4: bird thing.

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Speaker 2: We can do this, Lee, give us a whistle. Oh,

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Speaker 6: A flock of meadow larks. Gorgeous here we are. What

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Speaker 6: a beautiful way to travel.

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Speaker 7: Hey, lady are you gonna stand in the middle of

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Speaker 2: I'm walking here. If it's a break, we're lurking here?

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Speaker 3: All right, everyone's a character in New York City, Lee,

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Speaker 1: That kid, an old timy Newsy in a cap selling papers.

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Speaker 2: It sure is extra extra Read all about it. Woman

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Speaker 2: talking about? Judy Human extra extra Read all about it.

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Speaker 2: Judy Human wins case against school board again teacher's license.

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Speaker 1: Newsies were a fixture of life in the eighteen hundreds.

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Speaker 2: How far back do we go?

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Speaker 4: Lee, the nineteen seventies Are the newsies historically accurate? You

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Speaker 4: let me worry about that memony. Listen to what the

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Speaker 8: Judy extra Exjack read all about it. In a twist

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Speaker 8: of fate, Judy Human wins discrimination lawsuit against the school

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Speaker 4: When she was entering elementary school in nineteen fifty two,

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Speaker 1: That seems outrageous even for the nineteen fifties. But what

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Speaker 4: Years later, after Judy had earned her teaching license, that

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Speaker 4: same school board said she couldn't be a teacher in

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Speaker 1: That's really unfair. She was obviously able to be a teacher.

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Speaker 1: She was just going to need to get around the

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Speaker 1: school in her own way.

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Speaker 2: In schools today.

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Speaker 1: There are not only ramps in elevators so that everyone

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Speaker 4: Exactly, and all that progress is the result of Judy

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Speaker 4: and her colleagues demanding that buildings be more accessible. Because

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Speaker 4: the world is largely designed able people in mind, you

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Speaker 4: have to use your imagination in a new way to

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Speaker 1: If only the school board could have realized that back

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Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty.

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Speaker 4: Two Extra Extra Exclusive interview with Judy Human, page four.

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Speaker 6: Oh we should read that. Excuse me, hi, I'd like

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Speaker 6: to buy a paper. Please show a thing that'll be

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Speaker 6: three fifty three fifty. That is expensive for the seventies.

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Speaker 6: Oh well, here you go, Neosy.

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Speaker 7: Thanks extra extra podcast a story and swindled by anachronistic noozy.

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Speaker 6: Read all about it, you little rascal.

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Speaker 1: Wait Lee, why would we just read about it when

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, maybe I could return this paper to that

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Speaker 4: Oh New York, let's get to that interview.

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Speaker 2: That's suburb.

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Speaker 6: Well, yeah, it's called a jack snipe.

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Speaker 1: I might need to sample it for a beat that

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Speaker 1: it is awesome. Now that's the only way to time travel.

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Speaker 6: Judy humans about to give her statement. Sorry, okay, so niminy.

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Speaker 4: Here we are at the Overseas Press Club at Judy's

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Speaker 2: Judy, how do you feel now that you've won the case?

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Speaker 9: I feel qualified to teach now and I don't want

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Speaker 2: I bet Judy was an amazing teacher.

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Speaker 6: She didn't end up teaching that much after the lawsuit.

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Speaker 2: What that makes me sad to hear?

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Speaker 6: It's actually pretty inspiring.

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Speaker 4: Judy realized that her work needed to be outside of

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Speaker 6: This whole experience.

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Speaker 2: What did she end up doing.

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Speaker 6: I'll show you.

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Speaker 2: What am I supposed to go with this?

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Speaker 4: Did you know that Benjamin Franklin wanted the National bird

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Speaker 2: And ab knows that late?

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Speaker 6: Where are we try to keep your voice down.

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Speaker 4: It's pretty late at night or early in the morning,

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Speaker 1: We're in some kind of office building full of people

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Speaker 6: It's less of a sleep over and more of a

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Speaker 7: Hm.

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Speaker 6: Hm, that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: People are definitely sitting, mostly at empty desks. And look,

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Speaker 1: haircuts I'm guessing we're in the seventies again, Correct.

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Speaker 6: We're in nineteen seventy seven.

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Speaker 1: I thought sit ins were like protests, like the ones

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Speaker 6: That's right.

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Speaker 4: All of these folks are part of da Disability in Action,

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Speaker 4: an organization that Judy helped create that brings people together

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Speaker 1: Are they all protesting about another teacher license getting denied?

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Speaker 6: No, this is a much bigger moment.

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Speaker 4: This is one of many sit ins staged across the

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Speaker 4: take action on section five oh four of the Rehabilitation

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Speaker 1: Nineteen seventy three. But didn't you just say it's nineteen

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Speaker 4: Yes, So in nineteen seventy three, after other protests led

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Speaker 4: that basically said no disabled person should be excluded from

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Speaker 6: That's great, it is great.

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Speaker 4: But before section five oh four could be put into law,

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Speaker 4: the US Department of Health, Education, and Welfare had to

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Speaker 1: So all these activists had already helped bring about a

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Speaker 6: Pretty much, no wonder Judy got so feisty.

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Speaker 3: Okay, everybody, I don't want to wake you if you're resting,

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Speaker 4: What time it is.

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Speaker 6: I'm not exactly sure what's happening. Now.

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Speaker 1: They're taking down that big sign that says twenty one

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Speaker 6: Fellow protesters.

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Speaker 2: If you can, we'd love for you to stay just

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Speaker 4: Oh, I see all these people have been here protesting

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Speaker 2: That's such a long time.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And some of the people here needed specific medical supplies

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Speaker 2: How did they know what to bring them?

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's nineteen seventy seven. There are no cell phones,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think they'd just let the protesters use

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Speaker 2: They didn't.

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Speaker 4: In fact, the FBI cut the phone lines in here

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Speaker 6: Look over there, that woman.

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Speaker 2: Of that window.

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Speaker 6: Isn't that amazing?

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Speaker 4: The FBI couldn't stop asl Still, it.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like hard work. How much longer does the protest go?

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Speaker 6: They'll be here for a few more days, twenty four altogether.

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Speaker 1: I know this is a protest and everyone here is

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Speaker 6: Also feels good in here.

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Speaker 2: Is that weird to say?

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Speaker 6: I don't think so?

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Speaker 4: And Actually, that makes me think of one other thing

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Speaker 4: I want to show you. I really hope I don't

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Speaker 6: But here we go. Owls.

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Speaker 4: What a perfect bird to take us to our next stuff.

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Speaker 1: You're right, Lee, those owls were on thepe I'm seeing

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Speaker 1: a bonfire with people gathered around it. I hear frogs

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Speaker 1: and crickets. There are mosquitoes.

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Speaker 6: Oh no, I do not do well with mosquitoes.

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Speaker 2: Then we better be quick.

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Speaker 6: What's the scoop on this gathering.

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Speaker 4: We're at a place called Camp jen Ed. It's a

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Speaker 4: summer camp Judy went to and she was a teenager.

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Speaker 6: Look, she's right over there sitting.

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Speaker 2: You're the fire.

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Speaker 1: Where Sorry, it's hard to tell from this far back,

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Speaker 1: and there's more than one person in a wheelchair over there.

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Speaker 6: She's the one who just made everyone laugh. Gotcha.

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Speaker 4: I wanted to bring you here because Judy talks about

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Speaker 6: It was a camp for young people with disabilities.

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Speaker 4: It's here that Judy said she realized that a lot

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Speaker 4: of the limited way people view folks with disabilities comes

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Speaker 6: It sparked something in her to want to change that.

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Speaker 2: Maybe this is where her flame first got it spark.

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Speaker 4: Hard to say, but it gave Judy and many other

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Speaker 6: Other campers from jened went on to be disability rights

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Speaker 6: activists too.

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Speaker 2: Okay, they're really getting into that song.

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Speaker 1: Oh, which reminds me we better get back to the

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Speaker 1: sort of looks like you're getting eaten alive by mosquitoes. Yikes,

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Speaker 1: let's get out of here.

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Speaker 2: Who or swans?

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Speaker 4: We're heading back to the studio. So he's sort of

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Speaker 4: our Swan song. All right, here we are back at

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Speaker 4: the studio. I'm covered in bug bites. Why did I

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Speaker 2: Oh? All that, and you didn't even get us'more?

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Speaker 6: Oh no one came back with us.

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Speaker 2: By Okay, listeners, let's hear this song about.

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Speaker 1: The one and only Judy Human, featuring the amazing vocalist

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Speaker 1: Jenna by Bridge.

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Speaker 5: I'm looking for feisty disabled people.

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Speaker 10: I see I.

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Speaker 9: Eighteen, that's one, and have a contracted polios sort of

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Speaker 5: But I was paralyzed from below the wigs. But just

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Speaker 5: know that the song ain't a sock story. Ain't the

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Speaker 9: This about finding force when you're afraid getting lemons, turning.

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Speaker 6: Them to lemonade.

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Speaker 5: See jump forward to the first day of my new school.

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Speaker 5: Want to learn in the worst way, but in.

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Speaker 2: A curse ray.

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Speaker 9: They took one look at the wheelchair teachers tell me

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Speaker 9: I cannot be there.

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Speaker 5: You know they called me a fire hazard.

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Speaker 9: We will show them a fire hazard.

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Speaker 5: To go to class. I had to give them some sass,

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Speaker 11: So we had to be sight seeing, be the brawler

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Speaker 10: Feisty, feisty.

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Speaker 5: Second first second, lesson second, time to fright.

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Speaker 10: I want to be a teacher.

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Speaker 5: Help the youth out right. Got my grades, good, pass

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Speaker 5: my tests, bought my shock. They say I can't teach

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Speaker 5: because I can't watch. This rule was blatantly unfair and wrong.

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Speaker 5: I'm teaching school, I'm not running a marathon.

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Speaker 9: Lord of the Education of New York was not the

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Speaker 5: You know, they settled out of court. First ever teacher

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Speaker 9: Plus, I got a lot of press from my stress,

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Speaker 5: I now know what my purpose is. Activists who make disturbances.

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Speaker 9: If their threading is uncurbing, and I'm serving servingly and urgently,

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Speaker 9: I'm good.

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Speaker 5: It's like se be the brawler you want to be.

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Speaker 5: I see, make the shift that you want to see.

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Speaker 5: No time for the niceties.

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Speaker 10: Feisty, be seisty.

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Speaker 5: As you consume of facts that led to many positives.

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Speaker 9: But disabled people still in their policy paragatives, prison by pity,

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Speaker 9: paternalism and persecution perpetrated the politicians immune prosecution.

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Speaker 5: Oo, we need a little.

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Speaker 2: Traction, wail.

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Speaker 5: How about I'm selling action now.

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Speaker 9: We on a mission to improve the positions of people

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Speaker 9: who won't be hidden.

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Speaker 5: Will be told that we don't fit it. So we

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Speaker 5: That's where you show up on bidding and basically get

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Speaker 9: We stay twenty six days without a stock, wouldn't move.

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Speaker 5: Even when they brought the army and the cops.

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Speaker 9: It was worth it when we finally got our props,

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Speaker 5: Need a nudge and a push and a flick. They

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Speaker 5: I see? Make the shift?

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Speaker 10: Think you want I see?

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Speaker 5: No time for the niceties?

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Speaker 10: Feisty, de seisty, feisty.

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Speaker 5: Be the brawler.

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Speaker 10: You want to be seisty? Make the shift?

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Speaker 11: Think you want no time for the niceties?

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Speaker 10: Feisty, be feisty.

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Speaker 2: We'll be right back after a few words for the

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining in today and for learning more about

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Speaker 1: the mother of the disability rights movement, Judy Human. In fact,

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Speaker 1: she inspired me so much I've changed my plan for

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Speaker 1: the garden party.

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Speaker 2: Hey Nnedy Haley, Hey Hi Man Phil, Hey Tina Yo.

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Speaker 3: I showed up today around five thirty am for your

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Speaker 3: party because I'm always fashionably late, but I think I

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Speaker 3: actually ended.

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Speaker 6: Up being fashionably early.

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Speaker 2: It was utzon you did.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was kind of weird to have a

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Speaker 3: party so early in the morning, But then again, you're

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Speaker 3: pretty weird too, body in.

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Speaker 2: A good way. Thanks Phil, You're kind of weird too,

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 3: Also, I just want to say to this pile of

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Speaker 3: dirt and empty planter boxes we're all standing around off

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Speaker 3: fantastic love that pre plan esthetic waw.

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Speaker 4: I actually had a question about that, Niminy. I thought

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Speaker 4: you were inviting us to a garden party, but there's

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Speaker 4: no garden in here.

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Speaker 1: I thought we could change this from a garden party

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Speaker 1: to a gardening party.

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Speaker 2: I have all these.

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Speaker 1: Different types of seeds here, and they each need different

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Speaker 1: conditions to help them grow. So will you help me

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Speaker 1: create a better environment for each of these different types

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Speaker 1: of plants?

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Speaker 2: Sure? What are all these birds doing here?

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Speaker 6: I'll explain later.

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Speaker 3: Whoa, that's what it is, very good with a wheelbarrow.

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Speaker 2: Let's get gardening.

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Speaker 1: Thanks everyone. While we all work on the garden, I

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Speaker 1: am gonna briefly.

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Speaker 2: Sneak away for an interview. Hi, Alie, can you introduce

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Speaker 2: yourself for our listeners.

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Speaker 12: My name is Ali Stroker and I am an actress

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Speaker 12: and a singer and a dancer. I have had the

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Speaker 12: privilege of performing on Broadway and winning a Tony Award

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Speaker 12: for my performance in Oklahoma, where I played ado Annie.

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Speaker 12: And I also am an activist and an advocate for

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Speaker 12: people with disabilities. I was injured in a car accident

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Speaker 12: when I was two and use a wheelchair for mobility.

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Speaker 12: I have a two year old son named Jesse, who

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Speaker 12: is hilarious and such a joy. And I'm married to

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Speaker 12: the love of my life named David, and we live

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Speaker 12: in Westchester.

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Speaker 2: Amazing. Now, Elizabeth, can you tell us a little bit

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Speaker 2: about yourself?

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Speaker 6: Okay, So I'm Elizabeth.

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Speaker 13: I'm fourteen, and I'm in theater at my school. I

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Speaker 13: do chorus, and I like to play sled, hockey, baseball, swimming.

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Speaker 1: So, Elizabeth, I know you have some questions prepared. Do

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Speaker 1: you want to jump in with your first one?

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Speaker 13: What was the one thing that was most challenging for

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Speaker 13: you with your disability to start your acting career.

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Speaker 12: I began singing and doing theater when I was seven

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Speaker 12: years old. And before I began doing theater, I was

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Speaker 12: really shy and I felt really different being a little

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Speaker 12: kid with a disability. It felt really hard. It felt

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Speaker 12: like when I would enter rooms I was being stung

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Speaker 12: by bees. It was just so uncomfortable. And then when

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Speaker 12: I got on stage, everyone was staring at me. But

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Speaker 12: it was for a different reason. Now, it wasn't because

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Speaker 12: of my wheelchair. It was because I was the star

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Speaker 12: of the show and I was totally hooked.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: I can relate to that a lot, because like when

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Speaker 13: I was in sixth grade, it was really hard and

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Speaker 13: I went to theater and I was on the stage

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Speaker 13: and it kind of felt like it was where I

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Speaker 13: was supposed to be. I saw myself as a normal kid,

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Speaker 13: not with the disability.

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Speaker 10: Yes, exactly.

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Speaker 12: Wait, can I ask you a few questions?

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Speaker 8: Sure?

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Speaker 12: Yes, Okay, what is your dream role in a show?

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Speaker 13: I really want to try out for Dorothy and Wizard

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Speaker 13: of All. Yes, but like I'm shy and it's like

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Speaker 13: very scary for me totally.

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Speaker 12: I don't know what your audition will be like. But

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Speaker 12: I always say to people like, if you have any

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Speaker 12: questions about what I can do and sort of you

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Speaker 12: know how I move in my physical vocabulary, I'd love

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Speaker 12: to talk to you guys about it, because the truth is, like,

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Speaker 12: when you're collaborating on a show, you probably.

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Speaker 2: Have as many ideas as they do.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, and maybe even more that they wouldn't even think

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Speaker 12: of because you live with your disability, and you know

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Speaker 12: what is really kind of unique and cool about it,

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Speaker 12: and there's ways to be creative and incorporate it into

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Speaker 12: the show. Yeah, you know this concept of clicking your

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Speaker 12: heels three times, Like I wear a lot of rings.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: I don't know if you use a wheelchair or not,

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Speaker 12: but like I like to click my rings against my wheels.

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Speaker 6: All of a.

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Speaker 12: Sudden, It's like, who says clicking your heels three times

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Speaker 12: has to look the same as it's always looked, Like

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Speaker 12: I can click my wheels instead of heels three times.

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Speaker 12: There's so many cool opportunities to come up with creative options.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Elizabeth, is there anything you want to ask Ali

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Speaker 1: about Judy Human?

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Speaker 13: I thought it was kind of cool that like she

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Speaker 13: fought for like our rights because of our disability.

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Speaker 12: Judy's whole thing was she was sick of hearing no.

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Speaker 12: She believed that we as a community of people with

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Speaker 12: disabilities deserved to.

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Speaker 6: Have access and rights.

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Speaker 12: By the way, Elizabeth, like, I believe that the future

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Speaker 12: is accessible and that's the life that I'm leading and

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Speaker 12: the work that I do in.

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Speaker 2: My life to make it so.

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Speaker 12: I always say when someone is not able to see that,

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Speaker 12: that's not a person for me, and that's okay too. Like,

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Speaker 12: I surround myself with people who are passionate about my

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Speaker 12: ability and access to the world, and you will have

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Speaker 12: the same. Elizabeth, You're so bright, you're so smart. Like,

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Speaker 12: continue to surround yourself with people who believe in accessibility

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Speaker 12: and change.

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Speaker 1: Oh, this was an amazing conversation. Thank you both so

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Speaker 1: much for being here.

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Speaker 13: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 6: You inspire me.

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Speaker 12: I'm inspired by you. Great to meet you and have

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Speaker 12: a wonderful day. Bye bye bye.

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Speaker 2: Listeners.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining in today and for going on a

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Speaker 1: journey with me to learn about the disability rights activist

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Speaker 1: Judy Human. And a huge thanks to today's guests Jenna Bainbridge,

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Speaker 1: Ali Stroker and Elizabeth.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back next week with another episode, another song,

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Speaker 2: and another hero.

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Speaker 1: After all, someone's gotta make more historical records. Until then, Remember,

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Speaker 1: to make history, you gotta make some noise. Oops, forgot

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Speaker 1: to turn the random sprinkler timer off. Gotta go signing off.

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Speaker 1: This is Niminy reminding you to stay by sea.

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Speaker 7: Whye Historical Records is produced in partnership with Story Pirate Studios,

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Speaker 7: Questlove's two on five Entertainment John Glickman and iHeart Podcasts

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Speaker 7: Executive produced by Emir Questlove, Thompson, John Glickman, Lee Overtree

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Speaker 7: and Benjamin Salka. Executive produced for iHeart Podcasts by Noel Brown.

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Speaker 7: Producers for Story Pired Studios are Isabella Riccio, Sam Bear,

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Speaker 7: and Zarah Zolman. Hosted by niminy Ware. Our head writer

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Speaker 7: is Duke Doyle. Our historians are Gabe Pacheco and Lee Polus.

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Speaker 7: and music supervision for Story Pirate Studios by Eric Erson.

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Speaker 7: Sound designed and mixing by Sam Bear at the Relic

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Speaker 7: Room in New York City. Additional recording by Brett Tuban,

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Speaker 7: song mastering by Josh Han, Theme song by Dan Foster

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Speaker 7: and Eric Gerson and produced by Eric Erson. Production coordination

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Speaker 7: by Isabelle Riccio, Production management by Maggie Lee. The line

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Speaker 7: producer for Story Pired Studios is Glennis Brault. Pr for

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Speaker 7: Story Pirate Studios is provided by Naomi Shaw. Episode artwork

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Speaker 7: by Camilla Franklin. This episode was written by Megan O'Neill.

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Speaker 7: The song Judy Human was written by Dan Foster and

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Speaker 7: produced by Eric Gerson. Special guests Ali Stroker, Jenna Bainbridge

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Speaker 7: and kid interviewer Elizabeth. This episode features performances by Peter McNerney,

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Speaker 7: Megan O'Neil, Lee Overtree, Lee Polis, Austin Sanders, Jamie Watson,

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Speaker 7: and Niminie Ware