1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: How do I help others around me believe that they 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: are unstoppable? 3 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 2: What's up, everyone, Emily A Badi Here. You are listening to. 4 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 3: Another episode of Hurdle, a podcast featuring the mindset, secrets, 5 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 3: and true stories of the most inspiring women in sports 6 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 3: and wellness, empowering you to live a healthier, happier, more 7 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 3: motivated life and of course, conquer your own hurdles. This week, 8 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 3: I am sitting down with Jordan Larsen. She's a woman 9 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 3: whose journey in sport is a masterclass in resilience, leadership, 10 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 3: and the power of continual evolution. She's a professional volleyball player, 11 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 3: a founding athlete for League One Volleyball, and the co 12 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 3: owner of Love Nebraska. 13 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: So much has happened since we first spoke for the show. 14 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 3: In twenty twenty one, and today dive into what it 15 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 3: takes to maintain elite performance over an impressive career that 16 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 3: spanned sixteen plus seasons. Jordan also talks to me about 17 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 3: how she approaches each and every new challenge with a 18 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:16,279 Speaker 3: beginner's mindset and opens up about the immense internal work 19 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 3: required to evolve from being a leader by action to 20 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 3: a vocal, empathetic captain, plus how she learned to separate 21 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 3: her self worth from her on court performance, especially through 22 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 3: a period of personal struggle. We also talk all things 23 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 3: League on Volleyball, and love Nebraska and what it truly 24 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 3: means to be a powerful woman in sports today. Jordan's 25 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 3: willingness to be open and honest about the emotional journey 26 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 3: of an athlete is truly what makes this conversation so compelling. 27 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 3: Her mindset true reblows my mind. You can tell she's 28 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 3: been in this for a long time and she knows 29 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 3: a thing or two about how to conquer hurdles, both. 30 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: On and off the court. Make sure you're following along 31 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 2: with Hurdle over on social It's that Hurdle podcast. 32 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 3: You can also check out iHeart Women's Sports over at 33 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 3: iHeart Women's Sports and me over at Emily A Body. 34 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: Listen to Hurdle with Emily Body. 35 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 3: I'm an iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get 36 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 3: your podcasts. 37 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 2: And with that, let's get into it. Let's get to 38 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 2: hurdling today. I am sitting down with Jordan Larsen. 39 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 3: She's a pro volleyball player, a founding athlete for League 40 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 3: one Volleyball. She's also the co owner of Love Nebraska. Jordan, 41 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,119 Speaker 3: Welcome to Hurdle. How we doing good? 42 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 4: How are you doing? Excited to be back. It's so 43 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 4: good to see you. 44 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: I'm so excited to be back. 45 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 3: I you're like one of my favorite people to keep 46 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 3: up with from like the hurdle sphere over the last 47 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 3: few years, and I've loved everything that's happened since we 48 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 3: first connected. So it's so special to have you back 49 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 3: on the show because so much has happened. 50 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 1: So much has happened. I was like trying to think 51 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: back on the drive in this morning, I was like, 52 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: when was the last time we spoke? That was before? 53 00:02:59,040 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: I don't even remember if. 54 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 3: Four Larsen Hurdle Podcast Google once you were episode one 55 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 3: seventy nine for Contact Jordan, we're currently almost eight hundred 56 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 3: episodes in and that was November. Oh my god, it's 57 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 3: like our anniversary kind of the episode went live on 58 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 3: November tenth, twenty twenty one. 59 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 4: Stop it. Oh my gosh. 60 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: That's great. Well, congratu first of all, eight hundred, that's amazing. 61 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 2: It's a wild time for hurdle. I know that you 62 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 2: saw that. 63 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 3: Now we're part of the Iheartwoman's Sports podcast network, So 64 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 3: so excited to usher in this chapter and have you 65 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 3: be a part of this exciting time. Exciting time for 66 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 3: you as well. I always like to level set when 67 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 3: we start on the show. Here, give me the lowdown. 68 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 3: How are you doing? 69 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 2: Really? 70 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 4: That's a great that's a great question. 71 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of balls rolling, which is always 72 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: a great thing, which sometimes can be overwhelming at times, 73 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: but yeah, doing quite well. I think that kind of 74 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: saying goodbye to the national team and you know that 75 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: chapter and it was great, but also feeling like I'm 76 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: kind of creating roots and roots in a way that 77 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: I've never really had for many years. So it's different 78 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: and new and also uncomfortable because I'm used to being 79 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: on the go so much. So lot's going on, but 80 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: all good things. 81 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 3: So how does creating these new roots? Obviously you're in Nebraska, 82 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 3: girly through and through. There's a reason why you have 83 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 3: this nickname, the Governor. But how does staying in one 84 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 3: place make you feel. 85 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: It's a little weird, which people are like, how does 86 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: that make it weird? 87 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 4: I don't know. 88 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: It's just when you're used to uprooting your life every 89 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: six months, you're you know, your attachment to things. And 90 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: now I'm you know, really building a community again, and really, 91 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, being around my family again. It's like 92 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: my family is usually coming to me, so now being 93 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: there and here in present and I get a host events, 94 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: you know, I can host Thanksgiving and Christmas and and 95 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: kind of creating new traditions because I think, you know, 96 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: so much time has passed that those things haven't happened 97 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: for me. So again it's like a weird, uncomfortable thing 98 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: but also exciting and new because I haven't had it 99 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: in a while. 100 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I hear that. 101 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 3: And it's really just facing maybe the things that you 102 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 3: kind of put on the back burner for a while totally. 103 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: Which again it's like I try to be as present 104 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: as I could while traveling, but it's so hard. It's 105 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,239 Speaker 1: so hard to stay connected and life happens for other people. 106 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: You know. My friends are like three kids in and 107 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: their kids are already in high school, and I'm like, 108 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: wait a minute, I just left, Like how are they 109 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: so you know big now, But it's been so fun 110 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: to reconnect and just kind of join them where they're at. 111 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: And yeah, it's I feel like I've just left college. 112 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: Which is I know that's not the case. I don't 113 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: look like I just left college, but it feels like that. 114 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: It's like a weird I don't know, it's like my 115 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: life pause and everybody's kept going, but mine also did. 116 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: It's a weird space but also fun. 117 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 3: Can I tell you that I had a moment during 118 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 3: the pandemic where I realized that I had been on 119 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 3: go go go in a very different way than you have. 120 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 3: And I sat down one day and did an inventory 121 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 3: of the people that mattered to me in my life, 122 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 3: and like if someone had had a baby and I 123 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 3: didn't feel like I did enough when that happened, I 124 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 3: like sent them a note. I was like, Okay, I 125 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 3: want to like really try to reclaim some of these 126 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 3: relationships so I can hear what you're saying totally. 127 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: And yeah, it's it's weird when you finally kind of pause. 128 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: It's hard to also sit in the pause right when 129 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: you've been so used to, like I don't know, filling 130 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: your mind with other things that learning how to like 131 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: quiet your mind, and the quiet mind is like it's 132 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: okay and that nothing is wrong and so and I 133 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: think also too, As you know, retirement comes closer to me, 134 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: you know, without volleyball having that as an outlet, Like, 135 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: what does that relationship look like for me too? And 136 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: how do I create habits that are healthy now as 137 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 1: an outlet that kind of keep me kind of at bay? 138 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: So because everybody's like, oh, that transition is so hard, 139 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh man, I'm like bracing for you 140 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: know something, but just I don't know, feeling like in 141 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: a really good place just internally, which I'm forever grateful for. 142 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 2: I love that. 143 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 3: And you know, you just posted the other day season sixteen. 144 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 3: I forget what the hashtag was. It was something about yes, 145 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 3: I'm still doing this and yes I am old. Yes 146 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 3: sixteen seasons in that is impressive and also such a 147 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 3: testament to how much of a stellar athlete you are. 148 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 3: How does it feel now at the beginning of a 149 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 3: season versus maybe how it felt when we were closer 150 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 3: to seasons one and two. 151 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's oddly still this newness and excitement. I feel 152 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: like I'm still learning, which is crazy. 153 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 4: And I think. 154 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: There have been moments of time in my career that 155 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: I burnout was real and I was like, maybe this 156 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: is time to step away. But I feel just immense 157 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: gratitude that I get it still, you know, lace them 158 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: up and I get a problem solve every day with 159 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: some of the best, you know, athletes in the world, 160 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: and I don't know, I just sit in a ton 161 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: of gratitude, which I don't know. Again, you would think 162 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: being in the sport for so long at some point 163 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: like the newness rubs off. But I love every minute 164 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: so and I think, actually, I was doing the math today, 165 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: I think it's like season nineteen technically, I'm like, how 166 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: do you count it? Do you count years in the 167 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: sport or seasons? Because I did half season, So I. 168 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 2: Think it's ever it is that you want exactly, So. 169 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 4: I'm like, well, what do we count here? You know? So, 170 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 4: but yeah, it's been fun. 171 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 2: I love what you say about problem solving. 172 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 3: Talk to me about what problem solving looks like for 173 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 3: you on the regular with play, whether it be in 174 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 3: practice or in game. 175 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think volleyball is a game of decisions, you know, 176 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: and you have a certain amount of time to make 177 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: the appropriate decision. And so obviously also you're dealing with 178 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: people in humans, and everybody has a different emotional capacity 179 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: of how they get to the same solution. And so 180 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: how do you manage people's emotions and then also how 181 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: do you execute the skill? And I mean volleyball is 182 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: pretty beautiful when it all comes together, and so how 183 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: can you make it not feel as chunky? And so 184 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:58,239 Speaker 1: kind of setting a temperature of the room and understanding 185 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: like how do I have a conversation or I need 186 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: to take over for this situation or I need to 187 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: sit back in this situation. So it's really just constantly evaluating, 188 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: and then it's also evaluating internally of like what do 189 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: I need to give today, what skill is needed most 190 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: for me? And then kind of I don't know, I 191 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: just love like finding that decision every day, and then 192 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: there's just micro decisions over time. And I think with 193 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: leadership too, it's like how do I show up and 194 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: be the best I can and kind of set a 195 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: foundation for those If I can be as consistent as possible, 196 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: that's where I want to aim at. 197 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, And being a leader is something that you, 198 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 3: I would argue, naturally stepped into as your tenure within 199 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 3: this sport continued. Do you feel like from a young 200 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 3: age you were someone that was up to stepping into 201 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 3: this type of role or is this a skill that 202 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 3: you as we're talking about learning and growing and problem solving, 203 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 3: really homed in on over time. 204 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely evolved over time. 205 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 4: For sure. 206 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: I feel like I was always I always felt a 207 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: little different, you know, my mind was a little different. 208 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: How I approach the game was a little different. But 209 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: I think I went for more of a leadership by action, 210 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: you know, my work ethic, how I you know, pursued 211 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: and practice, you know, those kind of things I think 212 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: really were the foundational piece for me. And I think 213 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: where I've had to evolve is like, it's not just 214 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: about what's happening between the white lines. It's about how 215 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: I get to know my teammates, how I'm showing up 216 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: for them. They are human beings, you know, they aren't machines. 217 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: And I think sometimes I equate myself as a machine. 218 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, you just do this and you execute. But 219 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: there's just so much more to the game. And I 220 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,719 Speaker 1: think my ability to read the room has gone up immensely, 221 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: and then that way it allows people to feel seen 222 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: and heard, and then they can be their best selves 223 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: around me as well, because unfortunately I have this layer 224 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: of intimidation. You know, I blame it on my dad 225 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: a little bit. You know, I kind of have the 226 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: Larsen you know, grin or seriousness, which can be perceived 227 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: just externally different. So I've had to really work hard 228 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: to kind of break that down. And then also what 229 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: I've done within the sport too. You know, I think 230 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: it can be intimidating to, you know, to be around, 231 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: but I think, at the end of the day, like, 232 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: I'm human too, and I just want to be great. 233 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: So how do you find that balance? 234 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 2: So I appreciate your resting bitch face. Jordan, thank you, 235 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 2: thank you. 236 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: No, No, it's so true. It's so I had to say, yeah, 237 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: it's so true. I'm like, half the time, it's really 238 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: not what's happening inside. I wish you could feel, but 239 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 1: it's It's really been something I've had to work on. 240 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 1: And but yeah, what. 241 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 2: An interesting thing to come to terms with and recognize. 242 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 3: And also I really appreciate you saying that it's bigger 243 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 3: than what just happens within the white lines. When you 244 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 3: talk about going beyond those white lines and we think 245 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 3: about the work that needs to happen off the court, 246 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 3: what comes to mind for you? 247 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 2: What kind of work does that entail? 248 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. 249 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: I mean I think like understanding where people are coming from, 250 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: you know. I think every day, you know, someone may 251 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: have something happening in their life and they're showing up 252 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: with the heaviness in their heart and they're like, dude, 253 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: I cannot execute today and like I need help. I 254 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: think if you get to know them in a setting 255 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: that's a little bit not as harsh, then they can 256 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: ask for help sooner. And then also they can also 257 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 1: understanding where you're coming from. So maybe that's a coffee date, 258 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: maybe that's we're going to dinner. Maybe it's just in 259 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: a group setting outside the gym, you know, of just 260 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: small conversations here and there. I think add a layer 261 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: of depth to humanity that allows people to say, like, 262 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: all right, we are playing a sport and it matters 263 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 1: winning and losing matters unfortunately, but at the end of 264 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: the day, it's like we're here just to do what 265 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 1: we love and we love doing it with the people 266 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: that we love. So I think remembering that and staying rooted, 267 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: and that was never always me, you know, I was like, dude, 268 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: if we don't win this game, like my life will end, 269 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: you know, Like you know, I'd very was just like 270 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: live and breathe it and everything matters, and it does, 271 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: you know, And I think it's how can you find 272 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: the balance in that? And is their balance? 273 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 2: When did that change? 274 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: I think prior to the twenty twenty I never know 275 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: why I said twenty twenty Olympic Games technically twenty twenty one. 276 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: I think that whole quad I learned that, like if 277 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: this is my last go like how do I wanted 278 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: to look and feel at the end, regardless of outcome? 279 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: And how can I separate myself from this athlete of 280 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: like it all matters, and it does because you need 281 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: to be great with all the things, but also this 282 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: human element of like you know, when you get the 283 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: metal on your neck, it's like a snapshot in time. 284 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: It's not you know, it's a thing that happens, but 285 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: it's because of the journey. And I think there's just 286 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: so much more depth to that and meaning. And I think, like, actually, 287 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: where my purpose came from was that, And it wasn't 288 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: oh well, now I'm a gold medalist, Like now it 289 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: defines me, Like I really didn't think I was going 290 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: to have that much weight to it, maybe than when 291 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: I was younger, if that makes sense. 292 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 4: So yeah, I don't know. 293 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: I think I'm really proud for the internal work that 294 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: I've been doing of just like how to separate the 295 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: two because it's hard because I just love the sports 296 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 1: so much and I love being around it, so. 297 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and to be able to then model that for 298 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 3: the next generation of players and your teammates as they 299 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 3: come up, right, to be able to show them that 300 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 3: it's so much bigger than just the outcome of a 301 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 3: single match. 302 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: It is too, And it's like how I'm sure you 303 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 1: feel it too, And like your line of work, it's like, 304 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: how do you define success right? And what does success 305 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 1: look like? And how do you want it. 306 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 4: To feel right? 307 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: Because you could get it all and have it all, 308 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: and there's an emptiness piece that will come with it. 309 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: It's I think inevitable, right, because if you dive everything 310 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: into it, there's something that you lose a part of you. 311 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: You have to be a little delusional. But on the 312 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: same side of it is like, how can you have 313 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: this like piece that like whatever comes comes as it 314 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: may and the outcome is just a byproduct of everything 315 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: that's come you know to it. So I'm sure you 316 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,479 Speaker 1: can sit back at times where you're like the loneliness 317 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: and the quiet work is like rigorous and you're just 318 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: like why am I doing this? But like when you 319 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: get to some level of success, it's like all right, 320 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: this is this is why? 321 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 4: You know. 322 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 3: That's such an important distinction as well, because success isn't 323 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 3: just a thing that happens, It's a feeling that comes 324 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 3: with it. So when you think about success and how 325 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 3: you wanted to feel what comes up for you. 326 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: I think it's more like this legacy piece of like Okay, 327 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: how was I maybe personally able to impact the sport 328 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: but then also impact those around me as far as 329 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: like them having internal belief in themselves that they can 330 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: do it. And I think that's where I've fallen in 331 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: love with the most, is like how do I help 332 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: others around me believe that they are unstoppable? And I 333 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: don't care about me at all, Like honestly, like I 334 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: could have a terrible game and I'm just like whatever, 335 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: Like of course I want to be great, but like 336 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: it's not like it's not where the worth is coming from, 337 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: do you know what I'm saying? 338 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,479 Speaker 4: So I think it's. 339 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: More about like how are my teammates outcomes more beneficial 340 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: that lead to success for them than therefore it kind 341 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: of feels like a success or a win for me. 342 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:53,359 Speaker 3: It's so interesting too, because you're saying that this realization 343 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 3: for you really came together at a time when success 344 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 3: was measurable buy the best of the best outcome, right, 345 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 3: But in that time you came to understand that it 346 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 3: was bigger than just walking away with that gold medal. 347 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: Exactly totally, which is like you would think, like that 348 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: doesn't make sense, but inside, like internally like really like 349 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: there's just like this general piece of like I've even 350 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: if it wasn't a gold medal, It's like I knew 351 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: that I did everything that I could, you know, with 352 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: what I had and also what we did as a team, 353 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: Like we did everything that we could. We checked all 354 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: the boxes to try to do it right, and that's 355 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: ultimately what you want and what you hope for. 356 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 4: So there's no complaints there for sure. 357 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 3: Was there a point as you got closer to twenty 358 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 3: twenty twenty twenty one where you're maybe wondering, okay, am 359 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 3: I winding down in Sport and you took a look 360 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 3: at this legacy and you were like, I haven't done 361 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 3: what I wanted to do. 362 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: Yet No, I was really at peace with all of it. 363 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: I was at a place where I could walk away, 364 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: and I think that's what's made these last, you know, 365 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: four years even sweeter is like one of my mentors, 366 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: su Enquist. You know, she talks about a little bit 367 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,479 Speaker 1: of her life like she's living on house money. And 368 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: I really feel like I've been granted, you know, luckily 369 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: my body has, you know, been able to withstand just 370 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: extra years of sport that I get to enjoy and 371 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: really taking it as a blessing that I get to continue, 372 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: even though I feel like I have been in a 373 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: space that I could walk away at any time, and 374 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if that was ever the case before, 375 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: I think I would have it would have been hard 376 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: to walk away. 377 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 3: You joke about your age, Does it make you annoyed 378 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:37,959 Speaker 3: when people ask you about it? 379 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 4: Not really. 380 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: I really try to like make it lighthearted because there's 381 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 1: days that I'm like even today, like I went, we 382 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: went pretty hard these last two days of practice, and 383 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: I woke up today and I'm like. 384 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 4: Not too bad. I feel pretty good, you know. 385 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: And you know, I'm around like twenty two year olds, 386 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: and there's some days we're just different life, you know, situations, 387 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: and I don't know, I think I I personally judge 388 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: at that age, like I was like, you're over thirty, 389 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: what are you doing with your life? But now being 390 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: in it, you know, I'm like, do it? 391 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 4: You go? Girl? Like why not? 392 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: Like if you love it, like go for it. And 393 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: everybody that retires too early, they're like, I wish I 394 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: would have stayed. So that's the only advice that I've 395 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: ever really heard of, like, oh no, you should retire sooner. 396 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 1: That's never been what I've heard. So like, well, if 397 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: I can still do it, why not. 398 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 3: Now? In this new chapter as a co owner of 399 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 3: Love Nebraska, talk to me about what that's been like 400 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 3: for you. 401 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 402 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: So the last couple of years, I've kind of really 403 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 1: learned more on the business side of just like how 404 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 1: you know, professional sports come together. I'm still learning. There's 405 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: a lot of things that I don't fully understand. But 406 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: I just love the momentum that Vulliaball is having at 407 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: this moment. It feels so different than the past, and 408 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: the fact that I get to be home and play 409 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: is still and then still be on the side of 410 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: learning about business. Really it's cool to see and to understand. 411 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 3: It's so interesting because like, for instance, over the last 412 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 3: few years, I have worked more, let's say, with sports 413 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 3: marketing folks than I have with communications folks. It went 414 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 3: from me writing stories about products to now creating events 415 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 3: that engage consumers and really using a different part of 416 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 3: my brain. So I round this back to as you're 417 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 3: learning more about the business side of things, like what's 418 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 3: been perhaps the biggest surprise for you are really been 419 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 3: something that hey, like I didn't expect that. 420 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there is just a lot of cohusion. 421 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: It's even like the competitive side, you know, of like 422 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: understanding and also just relationship building, right, I think, how 423 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: do you want to create a culture and business of 424 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 1: like people that you want to surround yourself with? And 425 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: I think you can be kind of picky in that 426 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: of like who are my partners? Who do we want 427 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: this identity to look like and feel like? And I 428 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: feel like Nebraska is an interesting market as far as 429 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: just you know, there's really no pro sports here, you know, 430 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,479 Speaker 1: there haven't been, you know, and like how do we 431 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 1: create this still like you know, Nebraska is not for 432 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: everyone slogan, but it really you know what Nebraska really 433 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: means to people and what volleyball means across the state, 434 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: and so who you choose to go in business with 435 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: and partner with really does matter. So I think that 436 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 1: it's the same thing when you're picking a team or 437 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: like understanding how a team comes together. There's certain you 438 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: know aspects that you want and that you're trying to 439 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: build a culture around. So I think there's again there's 440 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: more to it as well, but I feel like that 441 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: has been like the coolest piece of it too, is 442 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: just really getting to know partners. 443 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 3: It's so cool they get to know partners to be 444 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 3: able to build something that will have a lasting legacy 445 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 3: not only in your state, but then of course the 446 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 3: greater magnitude within women's sports. I would be remiss if 447 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 3: we didn't lay some groundwork for people that may not 448 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 3: be familiar with League one to explain not only what 449 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 3: the league is, what it looks like, and perhaps after 450 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 3: we do that, where it's going. 451 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 1: League and bloball started about five years ago at the 452 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: club level, where we have been going around like purchasing 453 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 1: a number of clubs. I think now we're up to 454 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: eighty youth clubs and kind of just generating this youth 455 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: to pro model of and you can kind of, I guess, 456 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: compare it a little bit to Overseas professional volleyball. Right, 457 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: they don't have collegiate systems, so a lot of their 458 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 1: clubs have a youth program attached to their pro and 459 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: that's kind of how they build up to being a pro. 460 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 1: Where ours is a little bit different in the fact 461 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: that our youth, you know, twelve to eighteen, we have 462 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: club level and then people go on to college and 463 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: then we're building hopefully a sustainable model post college and 464 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: for athletes to come in and be able to do that. 465 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 1: Now there's two buckets, Love Club and Love Pro. Now 466 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: obviously Love Pro came on the scene the last two years, 467 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 1: and we'll continue to grow and we're adding cities as 468 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: we go. We just added La last I think it 469 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: was a couple of months ago, and we just added 470 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: Minnesota team. So going to continue to hopefully expand cities 471 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: and expand markets. Volleyball is interesting of like where you know, 472 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: popularity is and I think also understanding where these clubs 473 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: and where we continue to grow education. But it's volleyball 474 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: is the most played youth sport at the moment. And 475 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: I think we'll continue to grow as the years go on. 476 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: So that's kind of what we're looking at. 477 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 2: It's it's wild. 478 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 3: I was reading up on statistics about volleyball's popularity in 479 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 3: the United States, and I think I read a statistic 480 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 3: or something that was like three hundred thousand young women 481 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 3: play club volleyball in the United States co sign Yeah, something. 482 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: I guess I would say it could possibly be more. 483 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: I mean, just take for example, when I started playing club, 484 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: which was at twelve, which I'm almost forty now, so 485 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: it's a long time ago. I mean, I bet there 486 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: was five major clubs here in the metro, you know, 487 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 1: eastern part of Nebraska. And at the time, like of 488 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: those clubs, there was about two teams per age group, 489 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: so again a handful of you know, maybe from that's 490 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: from twelve to eighteen. Now it's like there's five, five 491 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: to six teams per age group, and then there's a 492 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 1: regional team, and then there's like a non regional team, 493 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: so there's travel teams and their home and now they're 494 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: also doing it in the middle of high school season. 495 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: So if you're not playing high school and you want 496 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: to play volleyball, like there's opportunities to play even during 497 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 1: and I'm my mind is like wait, what like and 498 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 1: they're sometimes having to turn kids away, and so it's 499 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: I mean here, it's like off the chart, So I 500 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: would be shocked if it's not even maybe more than that. 501 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 2: That's because Nebraska is a volleyball state. 502 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 4: We really are, We really are. 503 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 1: We do do differently here, but it has been really 504 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: it's been impressive. I think for even me coming back 505 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,479 Speaker 1: now and being in the community and just seeing how 506 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: much growth has happened is really beautiful. 507 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 2: So it's interesting to me. 508 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 3: Fun fact, this isn't about me, but I'm going to 509 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 3: tell you that I played volleyball in high school my 510 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 3: freshman year, and then I didn't make the JV team 511 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 3: in high school because I couldn't run a mile in 512 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 3: under ten minutes and so I got cut, which we 513 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 3: know is a really unfortunate part of that statistic that 514 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 3: young woman drop out of sport at double the rate 515 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 3: of young men. So hearing you talk about how now 516 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 3: there's so many different avenues for someone to get involved 517 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 3: in a sport like volleyball, it brings me hope and excitement, 518 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 3: and I think it's symbolic and indicative of where we're 519 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 3: going with our culture of encouraging young women to not 520 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 3: only get involved in sport, but really stay in sport. 521 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, And I I'm sorry about that, by the way, 522 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 1: because it's like running fall I'm like running the mile 523 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 1: on the sport, it actually doesn't. 524 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,719 Speaker 3: Apply, you know, could not be farther away from like 525 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 3: something that I needed in the. 526 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 4: White lines exactly. Well. 527 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: And then it's also like now you run for a living. 528 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, right, I mean, I mean for fun, 529 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 1: but just that, yeah, exactly. So anyways, it's yeah, you're right, 530 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: And I just I think women just stepping into a 531 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 1: place that like we get to do it as a job. 532 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: You know. So many of my friends are having babies 533 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: and coming back and people are supporting that, like I 534 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: don't know if that existed before. And I just am 535 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: so excited to see the landscape change and like you said, 536 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: opportunities to continue to grow. And now it's like I 537 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: think to what I'm most excited about is that the 538 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: United States hasn't seen pro volleyball really besides the Olympics, 539 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: you know, and so there is a difference you know 540 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: between college ball and you know, pro and I hope 541 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: that with time and exposure, they're going to continue to 542 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 1: learn more about what the differences are. 543 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 2: And even indoor versus beach. 544 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 3: Right, It's like when we think about the Olympics. 545 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 2: If we go back to that. 546 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 3: So many people were dialed in on what was going 547 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 3: on in front of the Eiffel Tower in the Paris Games, 548 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 3: but there was so much more volleyball that was happening inside. 549 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: Absolutely, yes, and I get it, Like, I mean, Eiffel Tower, 550 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: like the the beach court was pretty, it was gorgeous, 551 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: But no, it is there is a lot of, you know, 552 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: volleyball that was happening. But yeah, again, I think it's 553 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: just knowledge and exposure and I think that people are 554 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: getting behind it. So I'm confident that it's going to 555 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: continue to change. And but yeah. 556 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 3: I want to pivot a little bit and talk about 557 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 3: what was going on for you over the last couple 558 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 3: of years. I know that you've spoken out about how 559 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 3: you yourself as an athlete, experienced a bit of burnout 560 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 3: and even commented further to saying that you had been 561 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 3: having a tough time. 562 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 2: What was going on and how are we feeling now? 563 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think the last time we spoke, that 564 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: was you said, twenty twenty one. Yeah, So unfortunately I 565 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: had been going through another divorce and this one kind 566 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: of came out of left field a little bit. 567 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 4: I didn't. 568 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: I was really at a place where I was again 569 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: ready to retire and kind of give over the reins 570 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: of you know, I feel like as athletes, there's a 571 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: selfish layer, even though it's maybe non intentional. It's like, hey, 572 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: I have this goal and I'm trying to go and 573 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: but also trying to have a family and all these things. 574 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: And so I was really at a place where I'm 575 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: you know, willing to give up and ready to give 576 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: up my playing career and be a wife and a mom. 577 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: And unfortunately that didn't work out, and so I was 578 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: kind of stuck at a place where I'm like, all right, 579 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: well what I had thought my life was going to be, 580 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 1: like we're starting over. And so then I I took 581 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: a contract in Italy and I was like, well, maybe 582 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: maybe I still want to play, you know, like it 583 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: was still like I we'll see. So I took the 584 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: contract and I was like, oh my gosh. First of all, 585 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: playing in Italy is amazing. And then I really found 586 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: that I still love it, you know. And then I 587 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: was like, well, it's the national team still on and 588 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: I talk to Karch and so then I was like, 589 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 1: all right, well maybe I'll try for Paris. You know, 590 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: who's to say, Like, I don't know how I'm gonna feel, 591 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: but we'll give it a shot. But I didn't want 592 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: to be half in, half out, So I was like, 593 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: if I'm committing, I'm going to commit. So went on 594 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: to train with the national team. But I also got 595 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 1: into coaching, So I came back to Nebraska trying to 596 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: just be around family, having support and kind of really 597 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 1: rebuilding myself because I had lost just a lot of 598 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: a lot of me. I think going through divorce of 599 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: any kind or breakup is hard on people, and I 600 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: was in a pretty rough place and I'm grateful for 601 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 1: the community here. And I kind of got into coaching 602 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: a little bit and then was still playing and kind 603 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: of got the best of both worlds. So yeah, I 604 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: really just started building myself up lots of therapy, and 605 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: I feel like today I'm in a place of just 606 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: loving myself and finding inner peace and learning that that 607 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 1: is actually the true happiness is where that's at, and 608 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. There's still hard days, but I 609 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 1: feel like in a really good place now. 610 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 611 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 3: I appreciate you for sharing that with me, And I 612 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 3: think that what I'm hearing you say really is that 613 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 3: sports showed up. 614 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 2: For you maybe when you needed it more than ever. 615 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,959 Speaker 3: This opportunity to step into this coaching role and really 616 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 3: embrace and continue to develop so many of the skills 617 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 3: that you've already exemplified are so strong for you when 618 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 3: you feel weak. 619 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 2: In other aspects of your life. 620 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 3: To be able to show up on the core work 621 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 3: with others and be that leader that was something that 622 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 3: could help fill your cup back up again. 623 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 4: Oh immensely. 624 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: And I am so grateful that the doors were still open, 625 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: opportunities were still there. And uh yeah, even the coaching piece, 626 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,239 Speaker 1: it was like seeing and teaching, you know, of just 627 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: and seeing girls excel and areas that you know you 628 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: had a small piece in, you know, seeing them light 629 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: up that they learned something new really gave me hope 630 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: and happiness. So I'm really grateful, And I but a 631 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: lot of work internally. I'm realizing I'm highly codependent, I really, yeah, 632 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: just learning a lot of things about myself that I 633 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: think it's important to do. It's in If any advice, 634 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: I would say being single for a long time, learn 635 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: about yourself really truly and find you and then you 636 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: can you know, be in a good relationship, healthy relationship, 637 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: all things. 638 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 3: So, yeah, we need to talk about your Eprey love 639 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 3: moment in Italy. 640 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 2: Though. 641 00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 3: Oh it was amazing, right, amazing and also well it 642 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 3: had to be challenging at times, right because solo travel. Yes, 643 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 3: you have the team, and but it's a different relationship 644 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 3: because you're traveling internationally to play. But I would imagine 645 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 3: it was a lot of both. It was I am 646 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 3: so grateful to be here. It feels so good to 647 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 3: be playing again. And whilst here I am sitting and 648 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 3: eating pasta by myself. 649 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: Oh, it was all those feelings all at once. And 650 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: you can imagine too, it's like two when you're also 651 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: in a marriage, you know, and you have your person, 652 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: and it's like you're used to checking in all the time, 653 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: you know, and. 654 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 4: You lose that. 655 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: It's that was tough, you know, the silence of that, 656 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: the heaviness of that, and like you said, being alone 657 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: over there, it's like it really taught me to like 658 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: I really wanted to run often I was like, I 659 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: don't want to be here, but nothing else feels good. 660 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I want to be here, but like nothing 661 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: feels good. 662 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 4: You know. 663 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: It's just like I was searching for something when reality 664 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: it's all right here. It's just like piecing it all 665 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: back together. So, like you said, it was a mix 666 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: of all those things. But I've found wonderful community along 667 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: the way and it's been really great. 668 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 2: How do you cope with this coming inward of sorts? 669 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 3: Because I think this is something that's actually super relatable 670 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 3: and something that a lot of people struggle with, whether 671 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 3: it is you know, moving on from a relationship or 672 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 3: just really trying to get to this place where you 673 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 3: feel more comfortable with yourself. 674 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 2: Were there any strategies that you used. 675 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 3: Or tools that you needed, journaling, actually physically running, like 676 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 3: what helped you get better with being less codependent and 677 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 3: better with just being Jordan. 678 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great question, and I'm still learning kind 679 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: of what that is for me. But I would say 680 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: I'm a big proponent of therapy, Like I really believe it, 681 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: like having someone outside of your life, like have just 682 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: a place to like trauma dump, Like just dude, this 683 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: is what I'm feeling today like I don't know where 684 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: it's coming from. 685 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 4: I don't know why. 686 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: I think also learning about where your foundation is. You know, 687 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: I grew up in a divorce family. You know though, 688 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: all those things kind of have an impact on how 689 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: I perceive the world and how I perceive myself. And 690 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: then I also think, like I I'm big on routine, 691 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: like doing a lot of the same thing every day, 692 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: like waking up at the same time, whether that's journaling. 693 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: I'm working on what that routine is for me. And 694 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: then also sitting, you know, half the time where this 695 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: you know, like the instant any feeling of uncertainty comes, 696 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: it's like okay, let me just scroll, let me mindlessly scroll, 697 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: versus like how much are we actually just sitting in quiet? 698 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: And so I'm really working on when those moments of 699 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: quietness come and the heaviness comes, like what can I 700 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: do to just sit in it? Because oftentimes I just 701 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: want to do something to avoid it, so. 702 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 3: We're not the only one sitting in it is hard, right, 703 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 3: Like feeling your feelings is hard. 704 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard, But I learned that like actually it 705 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,959 Speaker 1: that it's okay to be on my own and that 706 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: I am enough on my own and of course I 707 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: want to be in a relationship and all the things. 708 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: And you know, also my relationship with volleyball, Like what 709 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: does that look like? Has that been an outlet? Is 710 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: out a safe outlet? Like that's not always going to 711 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: be there. So it's like all these internal conversations that 712 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: are happening. But yeah, finding just and I think sitting 713 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: in gratitude too, Like what are at the end of 714 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: the day, what I through things you're grateful for, Like 715 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: keeps you rooted in all things, because there's always something 716 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: or someone battling something worse than you, and who are 717 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: you to think that you're better than that? 718 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 3: So definitely, you know, you're never really alone in how 719 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,479 Speaker 3: you feel, like there's someone else out there that's feeling 720 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 3: the way that you're feeling. And it's just recognizing that 721 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 3: you don't have to sit alone in that feeling, recognizing 722 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 3: that there is just more out there. 723 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely so. And I'm like definition of hard. You know, 724 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: I think I've gone through a lot of hard things 725 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: in my life, but I would say these last couple 726 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: of years have been probably the hardest. And I can 727 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: say today, you know, they always say, like on the 728 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: other side of it is like beautiful, and I will 729 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: say that like it is and you can get there, 730 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: you know. 731 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, as you've been getting to be better, are sitting 732 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 3: with Jordan. 733 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 2: I usually say this for the end of the show. 734 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 3: But now when you look in the mirror, what is 735 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 3: it that you see looking back at you. 736 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that someone who likes to compete at 737 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: things right, just in general. But I think at the 738 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: base of all of it is that I want to 739 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,240 Speaker 1: see the best in everyone, and I want to see 740 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 1: just accept people for where they are, regardless of what 741 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: they have coming into the situation or what they have 742 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: going on in their life. Like I just want to 743 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 1: meet them where they're at. And that again, even though 744 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: I have this hard exterior, like I feel deeply and 745 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: I care deeply, I think learning how to translate that 746 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: better as I get older is really important for me. 747 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 3: So important, I feel that, especially the older transition. I 748 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 3: feel as though every day that goes by, I'm like, 749 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 3: am I saying what I want to say? 750 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 2: Am I? 751 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 3: I mean this even goes back to your legacy comment, right, 752 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 3: It's like, how am I making people feel? 753 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 2: Because that's the most important piece of the puzzle totally. 754 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: And I think there's a balance between like people pleasing right, 755 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: because it's like, how do you like go about like, hey, 756 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to state the truth. The truth may be hard, 757 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: but like on the side of like it's coming from 758 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: a deep level of care and love, you know. But 759 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: then it's also I want to be your friend, you know, 760 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:18,720 Speaker 1: so like can those two things exist? 761 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 4: You know? 762 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: So, but I am I'm really grateful for the journey, 763 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: and I think, like, yeah, just having more confidence in 764 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 1: who I am and that it's enough and that it's okay. 765 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 3: So how does it feel for you now to be 766 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 3: kind of transitioning into what will ultimately become this mentorship 767 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 3: coaching role. Are you feeling a little nostalgic for what 768 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 3: was or does this excite you a little bit more? 769 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think it's a mix of both. 770 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 1: I really love working at Nebraska, and I don't know, 771 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: there's maybe still a door open there in the future, 772 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: Like I don't know what that looks like. I would 773 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 1: love to be involved in some capacity, But yeah, I 774 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 1: just think the mentorship piece, it's like, Okay, I know 775 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 1: I was a different athlete, so I think that's where 776 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: it can be a little bit different as far as like, Okay, 777 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: this is what I did. Now how do I see 778 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: these athletes from where they are and then how can 779 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 1: we move the needle for them? So I just love 780 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,839 Speaker 1: like thinking about how to problem solve that, Like that 781 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 1: is what I'm most excited for. And I think just 782 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: seeing the game from a different eye, you know, of 783 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: like how can you still like win or find success 784 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: based off of like where your position is. So I'm 785 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,959 Speaker 1: really excited for it and kind of seeing what's next time? 786 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 3: What do you want them to have that maybe you 787 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 3: felt like was missing for you. 788 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 2: And I'll give you some context here. 789 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 3: So when I think about the work that I'm doing today, 790 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 3: I don't remember when I was younger and I was 791 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 3: dealing with my own health struggles to be able to 792 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 3: look at someone who I felt like understood when I 793 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 3: was going and throw I was a young woman in 794 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,800 Speaker 3: a bigger body who didn't see women in bigger bodies 795 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,359 Speaker 3: that were active the way that marketing was at that time, 796 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 3: it was awful, right, So now I get to step 797 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 3: into this role where I can be a resource for 798 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,320 Speaker 3: so many people who maybe have felt at. 799 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 2: Some time in a similar way. 800 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 3: So now as you step into this mentorship and this 801 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 3: coaching role, what did you feel like was missing that 802 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 3: you now have an opportunity to bring to the table. 803 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 804 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 1: I think it's like the level of IQ, you know, 805 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,439 Speaker 1: I think so much of maybe what people perceive, even 806 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 1: from a fans standpoint, it's like, oh, this girl can 807 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: jump high and hit hard and kill balls. Right to me, 808 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: there's so much more to the game than just being 809 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,240 Speaker 1: able to kill a ball. There's a lot of little 810 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 1: plays that aren't on the stat sheet, that aren't seen. 811 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: How are you as a teammate, How are you supporting 812 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: one another? How are you creating trouble on the other 813 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: side of the net, even if it's not killing the ball. 814 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 1: I think there's all these little stats that like we 815 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 1: don't see, but to me, that adds up to a 816 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: lot lot more value over time. And I also think 817 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: the meaning of success right, like how do you want 818 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,359 Speaker 1: it to feel at the end? I think that to 819 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 1: me matters more than you know a winner loss's And 820 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 1: also I think the risk of failure right Sometimes in 821 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 1: our gym we talk about failing fast, like the faster 822 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,879 Speaker 1: you fail, the more you learn, and so like, how 823 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: is this like risk taking how much risk are you 824 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,439 Speaker 1: taking in practice? Because the more risk you take, when 825 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,879 Speaker 1: you get to game time, you're you're like, well, I've 826 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,479 Speaker 1: done this a thousand times and I've created this risk 827 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: and now I know the exact result is what I 828 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,719 Speaker 1: want to go. So I think there's a lot of 829 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 1: nuances that can kind of come with it. But I 830 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 1: would say those be the first two. 831 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:44,879 Speaker 3: What do you think the fastest you've ever failed and 832 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 3: learned has been? 833 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say my first quad on the national 834 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 1: team twenty twelve. Like it was kind of like, hey, 835 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 1: we're going to teach you all these new skills, and 836 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, what, Like I was, I'm just a 837 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: national championship, Like I just want like does that not enough? 838 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 1: You know, like on you know, I should know everything already, 839 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,720 Speaker 1: And he was like, no, no, we're going to reteach 840 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: you everything and if you don't learn, like you're just 841 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 1: gonna self select out. And I'm like, Okay, well I 842 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 1: better learn and I better learn fast and I'm probably 843 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 1: gonna suck to start, And but I found that, like 844 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 1: I kind of succumbed to that as far as like 845 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 1: this isn't going to be pretty. But sometimes we get 846 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: worse before we get better. And I really bought into 847 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 1: that concept. So I'm really grateful for that time, those 848 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: first two years, and I think that was probably the 849 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: biggest I would say shift for me. That also allowed 850 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 1: my brain to like go there more when I was 851 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: learning a new skill along my career. 852 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 3: What do you say to the person that has really 853 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 3: not absorbed this concept of failure as opportunity because for 854 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 3: so many you can get so down and out, and 855 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 3: especially understandably when you've worked hard towards something and it 856 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 3: doesn't go your way, they can get so down and 857 00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 3: out and then they're kind of down and out for 858 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 3: a bit. How you embrace perhaps maybe a little bit 859 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:06,720 Speaker 3: more of that fail forward and at times a goldfish mindset? 860 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think exactly. 861 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: I think what you just said goldfish like how quickly 862 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,399 Speaker 1: we talk about failure recovery, right, like how quickly can 863 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 1: you come out of the bottom right and not sitting 864 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 1: in it? And I think asking for help, asking for resources? 865 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,280 Speaker 1: What do those resources look like for you? And maybe 866 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 1: that's even as a different direction, you know, maybe it's 867 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 1: not the path that you are on, Like how do 868 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 1: I try something else or something new? You know, sometimes 869 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 1: when they I don't know. When we're talking about skill development, 870 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,799 Speaker 1: sometimes if you just change the environment that you're in 871 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 1: actually creates a different like style of learning or maybe 872 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,359 Speaker 1: something that you weren't doing before. So but I think 873 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 1: you're right gold like being goldfish like, it's so true. 874 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 1: But I mean, I will say, even for me, like 875 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,720 Speaker 1: as I transition into a different role in the coming years, 876 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 1: you know, it is scary. It's like, well, I've known 877 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,919 Speaker 1: exactly how to execute cute a job for the last 878 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,919 Speaker 1: thirty years basically, like, well, like what am I getting 879 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: to and have the grace that I'm probably not going 880 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: to have it figured out and I probably don't know everything. 881 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 1: You've played valibell for a long time. But coaching is different, 882 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 1: you know, And how do I want to be and 883 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 1: how do I want people to feel? That's going to 884 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 1: take time and I think not judging yourself also like 885 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 1: where you're at. 886 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 3: So yeah, you know, as you were saying, the being 887 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 3: willing to embrace those failures and sometimes understand that the 888 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,320 Speaker 3: path isn't going to be the one that you envisioned. 889 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 3: It's hard not to then bring us back to that 890 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,720 Speaker 3: conversation of you making that hard pivot after your divorce, 891 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,840 Speaker 3: right and getting to this place where you had to 892 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 3: fully embrace this is how it is now, and it 893 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 3: was different five minutes ago, and it's going to be 894 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 3: different five minutes from now. 895 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 2: But all I can do is the best I can 896 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:46,280 Speaker 2: in this situation. 897 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so true. 898 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 1: Well even for you, I'm sure like the marketing piece 899 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,359 Speaker 1: now right, like as you're transitioning, like if you would 900 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,919 Speaker 1: have probably just stayed in your lane, like you would 901 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,320 Speaker 1: have never had these opportunities. And sometimes it's like maybe 902 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,319 Speaker 1: we're just not looking in the right places, you know, 903 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,919 Speaker 1: maybe there's opportunities in other facets that you know you're 904 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 1: risking something else and maybe you still feel there, you know, 905 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 1: you don't know, but unless you're kind of and it 906 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 1: really just depends internally how you are, because there's some 907 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,319 Speaker 1: days where I was like I can't get out of bed, 908 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 1: you know, like there is just the heaviness of the day, 909 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,359 Speaker 1: everything that's going on, Like those things are real and 910 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 1: like you're almost paralyzed that you're just like nothing doesn't matter, 911 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 1: you know, and it's I don't know, I think like 912 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 1: having community around you that can continue to encourage and 913 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 1: breathe light into you, I think is equally just as important. 914 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 3: It's so important, and also doing that audit of what's 915 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,320 Speaker 3: important to you. I haven't talked about this much on 916 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 3: the show, but there's a lot of runners that listen 917 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 3: to the show. Understandably, I'm a runner as well. But 918 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 3: I had to make a conscious decision on what I 919 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 3: wanted to do and how I wanted to keep learning 920 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 3: and moving forward. I didn't want to just have conversation 921 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 3: with female runners. I love them, they're amazing, but I 922 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 3: wanted to grow and understand the mindset for women who 923 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,240 Speaker 3: are the best to do what they do across sport, 924 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 3: across wellness. And that's why I'm entering into this new 925 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 3: chapter for the show, because. 926 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 2: I want to keep learning. 927 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 3: Just like you, you ask yourself at the beginning of 928 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 3: a new season, am I done learning yet? And when 929 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:15,799 Speaker 3: you look around you and you see that there's still 930 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 3: opportunity to garner new inspiration and continue to be a 931 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 3: student of the sport, that's what keeps you coming back 932 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 3: for more. 933 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, And I think, yeah, you just keep expanding 934 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,400 Speaker 1: on that and it's and it's beautiful to learn and 935 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 1: it's hard though. It's like man, but if you think 936 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,479 Speaker 1: you got it all figured out, then that's the wrong 937 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,919 Speaker 1: for me. It's like the wrong place to be as well. 938 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 1: So and I think I just never I've always had 939 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,799 Speaker 1: this general layer of curiosity, like just tell me what 940 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,359 Speaker 1: it is, even for you, I'm like, let me ask 941 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 1: you all these questions. 942 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 4: I want to know, like why do you want to 943 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:46,360 Speaker 4: do what you do? You know? 944 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 1: Like I love that you're curious, and I think, like, 945 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 1: in my we need more of it, you know. I 946 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 1: think it's we have so much access at our hands now, 947 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 1: which is great, you know, and I believe that we're 948 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 1: more educated, but yeah, I love that the curiosity piece too. 949 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,360 Speaker 3: How do you think that your curiosity is working to 950 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:05,319 Speaker 3: your advantage right now? 951 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 2: In this chapter? 952 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 1: I think just embracing changes, you know, like what it's 953 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 1: not going to feel great, you know, because it's different, 954 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,880 Speaker 1: that's okay, and that doesn't mean it's wrong, and that 955 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 1: remain curious and keep asking questions, and that it's never 956 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,279 Speaker 1: I am grateful. My mom was always like, hey, there's 957 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 1: no dumb questions, like just keep asking, you know. And 958 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,880 Speaker 1: I think that there's something to be said about that, 959 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 1: and I feel like that has always remained true to me. 960 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 1: It's just like I'm going to ask you probably a 961 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,359 Speaker 1: bajillion questions, but I'm probably going to get to the route, 962 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 1: you know eventually. You know. 963 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 3: So ninety nine point nine percent of the time, what 964 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 3: I have found is that if you have a question 965 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 3: and you're worrying that it's a dumb question, more often 966 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 3: than not, someone sitting next to you at that exact 967 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,280 Speaker 3: moment probably has the exact same one totally totally. 968 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,360 Speaker 1: And it's like, well, if you're the person that just asks, 969 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 1: like cares, but yeah, I'm the same. I'm like, just 970 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 1: ask the question like it's okay, And the person that's 971 00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,359 Speaker 1: even the one that is being asked the question, you're like, oh, 972 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 1: I've totally why you would ask that, you know. So 973 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,240 Speaker 1: it's more of us like having the internal battle ourselves 974 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,880 Speaker 1: than actually what the perception of reality is. 975 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 3: What's your hope moving forward when we think about love. 976 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 1: Love in general, or love that I mean, whatever you 977 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 1: want to take, Where are we going with that? 978 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:18,439 Speaker 4: No? 979 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:22,319 Speaker 1: No, honestly, for League one, I just really hope that 980 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,319 Speaker 1: I don't know, that people continue to fall in love 981 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 1: with the sport, and that having access to a higher 982 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,840 Speaker 1: level only brings more depth of love and expansion, and 983 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 1: that we can continue to elevate female in sport and 984 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,880 Speaker 1: really giving them opportunities to see a life as a 985 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,799 Speaker 1: professional athlete at home, you know, and that having a 986 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,319 Speaker 1: baby and coming back is a possibility and you can 987 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,480 Speaker 1: have both and do very well at them. And then 988 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 1: for love, for me, it's like loving myself and loving 989 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:51,759 Speaker 1: where I'm at and just taking it a day at 990 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 1: a time. 991 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,880 Speaker 3: I appreciate that you answered both sides of that question. 992 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 3: It wasn't even intentional. Candidly, I don't foresee a world 993 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:05,600 Speaker 3: where League one doesn't continue to grow to rapid fanfare. 994 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,440 Speaker 2: I believe right now. 995 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 3: With the culture that we're seeing within women in sport 996 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,520 Speaker 3: and also with what we've seen with the WNBA. I mean, 997 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:18,640 Speaker 3: we're finally looking at a CBA that's a minimum salary 998 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 3: of one point one million per player, like that's been 999 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 3: so long in the making. So the momentum is there, 1000 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:29,239 Speaker 3: and that conversation wouldn't even be possible had it not 1001 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:30,960 Speaker 3: been for that momentum. 1002 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, And that I just got chills because it's 1003 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 1: like I don't know to think about, you know, I 1004 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 1: a lot of volleyball players that have committed you know, 1005 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 1: two cycles Olympics, you know, are still having to work right, 1006 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,719 Speaker 1: and I think they want to work right. And so 1007 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,840 Speaker 1: I think about most men that are in professional sports 1008 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,759 Speaker 1: in the United States, like once they retire, like it's 1009 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,040 Speaker 1: like they really don't have to work, Like they can 1010 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 1: be at home, they can do all these things. And 1011 00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,319 Speaker 1: so the fact is, like, now we have women that 1012 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 1: could be making that and like setting themselves up for 1013 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,160 Speaker 1: a wonderful future that they can be home with their 1014 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 1: families and they get to choose what they want to 1015 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 1: do post retirement. And the freedom that comes with that 1016 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 1: is like just immense. And so I think that not 1017 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,880 Speaker 1: only am I excited, like you said, to like continue 1018 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 1: to see the expansion, but just also the freedom, the 1019 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,960 Speaker 1: financial freedom, the personal freedom that the love that you 1020 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,560 Speaker 1: have for the sport can go somewhere and do something 1021 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 1: bigger than what we ever imagine. 1022 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:28,440 Speaker 2: It's so true. 1023 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:32,920 Speaker 3: Now you just said some people keeping up other jobs. 1024 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,360 Speaker 3: What's the craziest job that you know someone has maintained 1025 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 3: while playing pro volleyball? 1026 00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:39,640 Speaker 4: Oh my goodness. 1027 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 1: You know, I've been lucky that I've been surrounded that 1028 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,600 Speaker 1: people continue they can they can have just only that life. 1029 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,720 Speaker 1: But it's like post retirement, they have to do something. 1030 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,759 Speaker 1: So I will say, though there are certain countries. You know, 1031 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,279 Speaker 1: when I played in Puerto Rico, it was like we 1032 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,960 Speaker 1: had to have a practice in the evening because everybody 1033 00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,920 Speaker 1: was working at nine to five, so it was only 1034 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,000 Speaker 1: eight o'clock practice eight to ten. And it's not normal 1035 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 1: to just be a professional athletes. So I wouldn't say 1036 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 1: there's a crazy job that I've heard per se, but 1037 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,319 Speaker 1: there are even now I have a teammate now she's 1038 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:11,239 Speaker 1: working typically two jobs, you know, remotely that she's you know, 1039 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,120 Speaker 1: still trying to she wants to buy a house, and 1040 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,359 Speaker 1: it's just like, wait, what are we doing? What? 1041 00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 2: You know, how does this work. 1042 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,799 Speaker 3: It's many years ago I wrote this article on this 1043 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:25,880 Speaker 3: female cycling team out of California, and I interviewed a 1044 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:30,280 Speaker 3: handful of the ladies and all of them had crazy 1045 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:34,719 Speaker 3: cool jobs before they finally decided, Okay, I'm gonna go 1046 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 3: out on a whim and try to follow my passion. Right. 1047 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 2: Many of them. 1048 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:42,120 Speaker 3: Were teachers or doctors or lawyers, and then they were like, 1049 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,400 Speaker 3: life is too short not to at least give this 1050 00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:46,320 Speaker 3: a full try. 1051 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 2: And I just thought, that is so awesome. 1052 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:52,319 Speaker 3: You're not talking to respectfully male pro cyclists who were 1053 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 3: former lawyers and doctors. 1054 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,239 Speaker 2: They just went all in on that from the get go. 1055 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 1: I know it's so true, and I commend people that 1056 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 1: are able to do that, that are even in a 1057 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,920 Speaker 1: profession for twenty plus years, and like, actually, I want 1058 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 1: to go back to school like that is like that 1059 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,400 Speaker 1: is bravery at its finest. So it's yeah, cool. 1060 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:09,960 Speaker 2: And it's finest. 1061 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,759 Speaker 3: Okay, So before I let you go here, today, we 1062 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 3: are thinking about the next year of Love. 1063 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 2: It's something to look forward to. 1064 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:23,799 Speaker 3: Now we have Love Nebraska, what will be changing for you? 1065 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,880 Speaker 3: It's interesting for me this like dichotomy of being a 1066 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 3: player and a co owner. Is that weird at times 1067 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:30,839 Speaker 3: for you? 1068 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:31,959 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1069 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:33,800 Speaker 1: The first conversation we had a first team meeting, it 1070 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 1: was like one of my teammates like, so, can you 1071 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,920 Speaker 1: fire me? And I was like no, Like, I mean, 1072 00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,200 Speaker 1: it's a real legit question, right, especially if you're not 1073 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,719 Speaker 1: really maybe understanding the business side. But yeah, no, it's uh, 1074 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,160 Speaker 1: it's fine. And I feel like we've kind of had 1075 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,880 Speaker 1: that conversation of what that looks like. But luckily that 1076 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,799 Speaker 1: the ownership piece and that they've just allowed me to 1077 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,959 Speaker 1: continue and embrace this year of playing and really enjoy 1078 00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,440 Speaker 1: the process as I go. So what I'm really just 1079 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,040 Speaker 1: excited for. I love the girls that I feel like 1080 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,840 Speaker 1: we created a great foundation last year and it feels 1081 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,319 Speaker 1: very seamless as we come into season two now, and 1082 00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,440 Speaker 1: as we continue to ramp up and there's excitement for 1083 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,960 Speaker 1: the for the season, I'm I don't know. I think 1084 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,400 Speaker 1: it's gonna look different, it's gonna feel different, And we 1085 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,479 Speaker 1: learned a lot first year, and I think it's gonna 1086 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:18,359 Speaker 1: be even better this year. 1087 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:23,160 Speaker 3: Biggest learning from year one. 1088 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 4: I think we just didn't know. You know. 1089 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,920 Speaker 1: It's like we're we're creating these positions in a place 1090 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,560 Speaker 1: that we've never seen before, right, So almost this layer 1091 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,920 Speaker 1: of expectation of like, oh, right, well, this is what 1092 00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:35,719 Speaker 1: it should look like and how it should be, and 1093 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,839 Speaker 1: it's just like, but we really don't know, right And 1094 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 1: so now coming into year two, it's like, all right, now, 1095 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,839 Speaker 1: I know exactly how I want this to look, how 1096 00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,839 Speaker 1: I wanted to feel. And last year it wasn't bad. 1097 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,120 Speaker 1: There was a little clunkiness, you know, of just you know, 1098 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,560 Speaker 1: maybe travel or you know, scheduling or something like that. 1099 00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,319 Speaker 1: But I think it's you know, we're learning now. It's like, 1100 00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,000 Speaker 1: all right, we're hitting the ground run. And now we 1101 00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,600 Speaker 1: have a new facility that we're in, which is absolutely beautiful, 1102 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,440 Speaker 1: and I don't know, it feels so much more just 1103 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,160 Speaker 1: ready and wholesome this. 1104 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:05,560 Speaker 2: Year ready and wholesome. 1105 00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,319 Speaker 3: You know, in order to do something different, you have 1106 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,680 Speaker 3: to do things that are different, right, and so to 1107 00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:14,120 Speaker 3: create something from scratch is hard, regardless of what you're 1108 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,160 Speaker 3: working on. But to do it with such momentum like 1109 00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,680 Speaker 3: we saw in year one, I can only imagine that 1110 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,399 Speaker 3: really exciting and good things are ahead for you all. Now, 1111 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,000 Speaker 3: final question for you, Jordan. I really appreciate how you 1112 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:28,960 Speaker 3: opened up today about what you've been going through over 1113 00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:30,960 Speaker 3: the last few years. I think that vulnerability is just 1114 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,440 Speaker 3: so important for so many people listening. 1115 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,000 Speaker 2: Knowing what you know, now, what. 1116 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,720 Speaker 3: Advice would you give yourself, Let's say, even like twenty 1117 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,760 Speaker 3: twenty three, twenty twenty four, are going through that Hurtle moment. 1118 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that there was moments where I was 1119 00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,920 Speaker 1: still trying to like run, you know, like I internally 1120 00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,640 Speaker 1: was just like I want to feel good and like 1121 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,759 Speaker 1: seeking in maybe places that I shouldn't have, you know, 1122 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:58,520 Speaker 1: and whether that's you know, I don't know, putting myself 1123 00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,960 Speaker 1: in positions that I just shouldn't have been in, you know. 1124 00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,040 Speaker 1: And but like the feeling of depth of emotion that 1125 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:05,960 Speaker 1: I was feeling that I was just like, man, I 1126 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,560 Speaker 1: don't know, something just not right. And so I think 1127 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:11,759 Speaker 1: I would go back to tell myself that like, it's 1128 00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:15,120 Speaker 1: gonna hurt, but that doesn't mean that that's wrong, that 1129 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,919 Speaker 1: like even in the pain and the hurt, like it's 1130 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,399 Speaker 1: okay to sit in it, and that on the other 1131 00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,359 Speaker 1: side of like taking the time to heal internally, like 1132 00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,600 Speaker 1: it's gonna be worth it. So I think I'm kind 1133 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,000 Speaker 1: of hitting that. I would say the last year or 1134 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,800 Speaker 1: so of just this piece, I think I wish I 1135 00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:33,600 Speaker 1: would have done that maybe a little bit sooner. So 1136 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,399 Speaker 1: I'm I'm really grateful and never I probably never would 1137 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,000 Speaker 1: have said that a couple of years ago, because it 1138 00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,920 Speaker 1: was it was hard, but it's been a really good 1139 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,000 Speaker 1: journey of just finding who I am again. 1140 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,719 Speaker 3: Hard but better for it again. Thank you so much 1141 00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,280 Speaker 3: for sharing so much with us today. I'm so excited 1142 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:50,920 Speaker 3: that we were able to sit down again. It's been 1143 00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,759 Speaker 3: too long, Jordan. For those that aren't following along with 1144 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:57,200 Speaker 3: you on social just yet give us the details. 1145 00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you can follow me on Instagram at gov 1146 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:04,640 Speaker 1: ten zero seven. My nickname is the Governor And I 1147 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,879 Speaker 1: think I'm on Twitter or sorry. 1148 00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:08,840 Speaker 4: X, what do you call it? 1149 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,080 Speaker 2: You're like, what are we calling it? Thread? 1150 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:11,520 Speaker 4: I know threads? 1151 00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,920 Speaker 1: Yeah whatever, Jordan Larson ten and then I do. I 1152 00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,440 Speaker 1: just got TikTok kind of Jordan Larson zero one on TikTok. 1153 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,600 Speaker 1: I just posted my first TikTok, just trying to blend 1154 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,120 Speaker 1: in with the the youth. 1155 00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:22,600 Speaker 4: You know. 1156 00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:25,120 Speaker 2: What was the TikTok? 1157 00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:27,880 Speaker 4: It was with me and Lexi Rodriguez. 1158 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,239 Speaker 1: We did the I don't remember the song, but you know, 1159 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:32,759 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to trying to blend in. 1160 00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:33,680 Speaker 4: I don't know if it's working. 1161 00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,399 Speaker 1: But and I still have Facebook for all those old 1162 00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,200 Speaker 1: people out there, still have Facebook. 1163 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:41,840 Speaker 2: Over and see my page. 1164 00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,960 Speaker 3: I'm over at Emily and Vadi and at Hurdle Vodcast 1165 00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:46,520 Speaker 3: another Hurdle Conquered. 1166 00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:47,839 Speaker 2: Catch you guys next time