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Speaker 1: Tell us all about it.
Speaker 3: We scared her?
Speaker 2: Was it fine?
Speaker 4: Now?
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Speaker 5: Need to ride? Do you need with Karen and Chris?
Speaker 5: Welcome to Do you need to ride? This is Chris Fairbanks.
Speaker 2: And this is Karen Kilgariff.
Speaker 5: Well here we are back in the car again, driving
Speaker 5: a guest to the airport.
Speaker 3: Oh yes, right, our guest, Jemmic's over. Everyone's keeled.
Speaker 5: We're of course not in a car. We will be
Speaker 5: one day, but we have a guest today. He is
Speaker 5: a very funny stand up comic. He's a writer director.
Speaker 5: You can watch, uh, we'll talk more about it, but
Speaker 5: you can watch his Highwayman series if you're if you're
Speaker 5: a fan of The Incredible Hulk or Highway to Heaven,
Speaker 5: you will fully love it. Everyone put your hands together
Speaker 5: for Henry Phillips. Hey, thanks guys, good to be back
Speaker 5: on the show. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yes, multiple guests on the show, right, at least once,
Speaker 3: if not more.
Speaker 5: I did one with you guys.
Speaker 6: Uh and then also there was one where I think
Speaker 6: you weren't able to make it, Karen, and so I
Speaker 6: jumped in there and we was it Matt Kershon that
Speaker 6: we drove around with.
Speaker 5: Uh oh wow, yeah, that you have a good memory.
Speaker 5: We're talking eight years ago or something.
Speaker 2: That makes that reminds me of that you're my enemy.
Speaker 5: Oh shoot, I forgot. Oh yeah, I forget.
Speaker 2: That was so much jealousy competition.
Speaker 5: I forgot. It's called the Nemesis episode.
Speaker 2: Yes, face him in a mass.
Speaker 6: Like for all I know, that was a real awkward
Speaker 6: situation for you guys, and I just bring it up care.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah one time. Yeah, thanks for bringing out
Speaker 5: that three week long fight that Karen and I had. Henry, No, no, it.
Speaker 3: Was the door slamming. What's weird is was it eight
Speaker 3: years ago? I mean that is possible, So it's possible
Speaker 3: to me. I mean, when did you guys start?
Speaker 5: Oh why had if I do this? It's like, when's
Speaker 5: our anniversary? I please tell me we haven't done this
Speaker 5: ten years. That had to be I think about just
Speaker 5: under seven years. Seven eight years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's been a while. Wow, we've been doing this.
Speaker 3: We've been doing this into the wind for years. No
Speaker 3: one ever cared. In the beginning, it was great. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we were rather free. Yeah, just a tree falling down.
Speaker 5: Well, hopefully new.
Speaker 2: People in the last eight years. I'm sorry, have you
Speaker 2: been in these last eight years?
Speaker 6: You know what I've been doing pretty well. I'm I'm
Speaker 6: currently engaged. And to Deborah, you've met Deborah. We all
Speaker 6: hung out a couple of years ago at Tiggs place,
Speaker 6: That's right, and a lot of laughs, and yeah, that
Speaker 6: was probably towards the beginning. That was like twenty fifteen
Speaker 6: or something. And yeah, we're we're actually going to go
Speaker 6: to Joshua Tree and have a socially distant ceremony with
Speaker 6: her friend officiating. And it's going to be very twenty twenty.
Speaker 6: But it's great for me because I'm like, I don't know,
Speaker 6: I guess maybe it's because I'm getting older or whatever,
Speaker 6: but the idea of having a big ceremony with a
Speaker 6: hundred family members and a hundred other friends, it's just
Speaker 6: too much.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, for sure, the top. It's weird to hear
Speaker 5: you know that. Have you put out the invitations yet, Henry,
Speaker 5: let's see, did you get one?
Speaker 6: Well, you know, if you haven't gotten one, then they
Speaker 6: haven't done.
Speaker 2: This is a COVID. We it's a COVID exactly, like.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: The bit I was doing for a while is I
Speaker 6: would if I was hanging hanging out with a friend,
Speaker 6: I would say, yeah.
Speaker 5: By the way, we're canceling the wedding.
Speaker 6: They're like, oh wait, and then and then I'd be like,
Speaker 6: oh wait, I didn't invite you anyway.
Speaker 5: No, that's okay, just forget about it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I got some mileage with that one.
Speaker 5: That was fun. But I know we haven't sent invitations
Speaker 5: out yet. Yes, I was. It'll be a zoom thing.
Speaker 5: We're gonna do a zoom for the family.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'd love to get the code for that, and
Speaker 3: I did. Just if you just email me a link,
Speaker 3: I'll watch you.
Speaker 5: Like funny you guys, And it's probably it's been happening
Speaker 5: all gear. I bet zoom getting the code for a
Speaker 5: zoom wedding.
Speaker 3: Oh, well, you know, zoom comedy shows aren't bad enough.
Speaker 6: My dad did a zoom funeral we set him up
Speaker 6: in front of the computer, and I got to say,
Speaker 6: he's ninety two, and he doesn't quite know everything that's
Speaker 6: going on around him or where he is. And trying
Speaker 6: to explain to a fully functional ninety two year old
Speaker 6: what Zoom is is already difficult. But my dad's basically
Speaker 6: he just thought he was watching a movie and he
Speaker 6: at one point I set him up with this thing.
Speaker 5: It was his old golf buddy who had passed away.
Speaker 6: And then you know, you can do the type of
Speaker 6: view on Zoom where anybody who's talking at that moment
Speaker 6: is the one that pops up. That's like the gallery
Speaker 6: whatever view, I don't know, speaker view, and uh, my
Speaker 6: dad just says fully out loud.
Speaker 5: It just just goes, uh wow, everybody looks so ugly.
Speaker 6: And it was like, but you you guys know, like
Speaker 6: we all have since we're all comedians, we have friends
Speaker 6: like Doug Stanhope, you know, who would always like go
Speaker 6: out of his way to try to make the most
Speaker 6: uncomfortable situation and it would work a lot of times.
Speaker 6: I swear I have never cringed harder than when my
Speaker 6: dad said it was so unbelievably uncomfortable. I wanted to
Speaker 6: turn back time because people were just like what who
Speaker 6: said that?
Speaker 3: It was like so like, it's the perfect the perfect
Speaker 3: line because the situation is tragedy. Oh exactly, it's like
Speaker 3: a tragedy within a tragedy of like, you know, pandemic.
Speaker 2: Everything about it, everything.
Speaker 3: About it is said and then darn coming in with
Speaker 3: a hardcore, hardcore comedy.
Speaker 5: Oh man, what I know of your dad, I know
Speaker 5: him a little bit that I see him doing that
Speaker 5: and it not being mean spirited, it being in a
Speaker 5: sweet way. Yeah, like out of concern, concern for everyone's faces. Yeah,
Speaker 5: Oh that's wonderful. I love it so much.
Speaker 3: Organist playing in the background. Now your father correct me
Speaker 3: if I'm wrong, if I'm wrong. But your father was
Speaker 3: like a recurring character on Cheers.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, well he did one episode of Cheers. He
Speaker 6: did a taxi. He just worked a lot. There was
Speaker 6: a show that he was a regular on called Always
Speaker 6: Forgiven that was the same people as Cheers. But he uh,
Speaker 6: but he's been an actor for is he? I guess
Speaker 6: he was probably about thirty six when he started acting.
Speaker 6: He kind of quit his his other life and became
Speaker 6: an actor and did Summer Stock and stuff like that.
Speaker 6: Then he started doing Broadway and then he got he
Speaker 6: landed this part in tax There was an episode called
Speaker 6: on the Job where everybody loses their job or yeah,
Speaker 6: and they they went and got other jobs and a
Speaker 6: Lane goes to work for my dad and he just
Speaker 6: knocked it out of the park.
Speaker 5: Most of these roles included was that show the one,
Speaker 5: Oh that's a picture that came out? Yeah, which is
Speaker 5: the first time that joke I think, Oh, yeah, those
Speaker 5: jokes were that's the yeah that was Taxi.
Speaker 6: Yeah oh okay, but yeah, you can see it on YouTube.
Speaker 6: His name is Bill Wilie and but yeah, he knocked
Speaker 6: it out of the park.
Speaker 5: He uh, well, Henry made him a demo reel and
Speaker 5: it's on there, right, isn't ye? Yeah, yeah demo.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you can see everything he's done. Yeah, was
Speaker 3: it that on chairs? It was within the episode he
Speaker 3: kept showing up. He was the tour guy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, yeah, in my mind that turned into he
Speaker 3: was on the whole season.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's so funny.
Speaker 6: The slightly tragic story, but I i've I've determined that
Speaker 6: it's probably not too tragic. But my dad and I
Speaker 6: remember he was in the running to be the coach
Speaker 6: on Cheers, and during that period of time, he got
Speaker 6: a call, uh for the sequel to the movie Porky's
Speaker 6: to play basically the villain, and he took it because
Speaker 6: it was like, well, do I do this pilot that
Speaker 6: may I may or may not even have the part,
Speaker 6: but it looked pretty good, especially in retrospect, and then
Speaker 6: maybe the show won't go or whatever, or do I
Speaker 6: you know, do a whole.
Speaker 5: Yeah port movie, it's a sure thing.
Speaker 6: So he did that and uh, and then we just
Speaker 6: watched Cheers turn into the biggest, most iconic TV show
Speaker 6: in history. But but my dad remained friends with with
Speaker 6: that whole.
Speaker 5: Crew, and yeah, but Cheers was a great show. But
Speaker 5: Porky's taught the world about glory holes.
Speaker 2: That's right. I didn't know about that. I'm as eleven
Speaker 2: year old, and that's.
Speaker 5: How I learned. Yeah, Bill was part of that teaching. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: he was. Also.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's your dad, but I honestly
Speaker 3: don't think anybody but Nicholas calls Doano. I hope that's
Speaker 3: how you say his name. But the guy that played coach,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, it was so perfect. But he had Cheers
Speaker 3: was like a favorite show, and he was so he
Speaker 3: was just so natural.
Speaker 6: He had that spacey thing that I love, you know,
Speaker 6: like yes and Wood. He had it when he got
Speaker 6: on there and yeah, but it was such a perfect
Speaker 6: sitcom type you know. And uh, yeah, my dad wasn't
Speaker 6: quite that. My dad was a little bit more of
Speaker 6: a uh like a loud uh maybe a little bit
Speaker 6: more like a Greg Proops type guy, like he would
Speaker 6: always have the suit and very but like a flawed
Speaker 6: guy in a suit sort of thing. That makes sense.
Speaker 6: It was a very different type of a character. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I'm going to turn the phone thing if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 5: Though, in in the Cheers character that he did do
Speaker 5: kept going back to the bar giving tours, Yeah, pretending
Speaker 5: Paul Revere had been there or something, just so he
Speaker 5: could drink on the job. Yeah he was.
Speaker 6: It was a tour guide who was who was giving
Speaker 6: tours of Boston to tourists. But he kept on saying
Speaker 6: that the bar was various things, and then he would
Speaker 6: have them look around and then go.
Speaker 5: To a shot at the bar. Yeah, that would funny.
Speaker 5: You would never see so many fun loving alcoholics on
Speaker 5: a TV show now and like, you just don't take
Speaker 5: that as lightly as now you did back then.
Speaker 2: The Mothers against Drunk Driving, Yeah, they're.
Speaker 5: Very mad, shut down were they were? They really upset
Speaker 5: at Cheers. I wouldn't be surprised that seems like one
Speaker 5: of them.
Speaker 3: I thought it would be funny to blame an organization
Speaker 3: trying to save people from It's like, back then, when
Speaker 3: that organization started, drunk driving was not illegal.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 6: It was okay that I could see that being a
Speaker 6: very eighties beef though, the Mother's against Drunk Driving and Cheers.
Speaker 6: I watched a a Mormon guy speaking generally. I don't
Speaker 6: have any beef with Mormons. I have some friends that
Speaker 6: are Mormons, and uh they But this this guy had
Speaker 6: a problem with the entertainment industry, and I remember him
Speaker 6: saying that he felt like the fact that they had
Speaker 6: a TV show about people drinking was the beginning of
Speaker 6: the end of all civilizations.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, And he was right, look a look where
Speaker 2: we are.
Speaker 5: Ye, he was right. And I found out later that
Speaker 5: he had been a child actor. Yeah, oh it was,
Speaker 5: it was he was. It's like, yeah, he was jealous. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I think that was like I'm bitter too, but like
Speaker 5: that's a real.
Speaker 2: We're all bitterer.
Speaker 5: My four wives agree.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like my dad, my dad probably could have come
Speaker 6: out and said, yeah, Cheers is the end of all
Speaker 6: civilization just because he could.
Speaker 5: Have been on it and it wasn't on it. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it's wonderful.
Speaker 2: It's so good.
Speaker 3: I was just gonna ask talk about will you talk
Speaker 3: about your the show that you're that you just made this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like Highway to Heaven.
Speaker 6: And yeah, the other one was there's one full episode
Speaker 6: on YouTube. Generally they're on Patreon Patreon slash Highwayman Show
Speaker 6: and uh, it's uh. Debora and I both came up
Speaker 6: with the idea, my fiance and she, so yeah, it's
Speaker 6: kind of Highway to Heaven. And it's also kind of
Speaker 6: this show from Canada called The Littlest Hobo, which is
Speaker 6: about a dog that goes from one person to another.
Speaker 6: And it's like every show is the same, you know,
Speaker 6: it's like from back then. It's like they would just
Speaker 6: sort of show up to this area and change everybody's
Speaker 6: lives and then move on to the next place. And
Speaker 6: The Incredible Hulk was sort of like that too. So yeah,
Speaker 6: I have a ridiculously long origin story about the highwayman
Speaker 6: who was just a regular guy who was helping his
Speaker 6: friend move and he severely injured his back, and yeah,
Speaker 6: due to a freak accident, he was no longer able
Speaker 6: to help anybody with anything, and so he had to
Speaker 6: go traveling around the highways and he and he's just
Speaker 6: the kind of guy that goes around and we'll see
Speaker 6: somebody stranded with their car. Well, okay, the whole thing
Speaker 6: started from one time when I my car died when
Speaker 6: I was in Fresno and just like the middle of
Speaker 6: the summer.
Speaker 5: He it was just a nightmare. I was in the
Speaker 5: middle of nowhere, and.
Speaker 6: You know, I'm one of those like long sort of
Speaker 6: highway drives that was just off the beaten path. And
Speaker 6: so this guy came up, and he's kind of a
Speaker 6: long haired guy, and I'm just like going, all right,
Speaker 6: maybe this guy knows something about cars or whatever. And
Speaker 6: he came up and uh, he he asked me something
Speaker 6: like if I wanted some kittens or something like that.
Speaker 6: He had kittens in his.
Speaker 5: But either way, the.
Speaker 6: Reason he was coming up had no nothing to do
Speaker 6: with helping me whatsoever. And when that was resolved, he
Speaker 6: just went back to his car, and I was like, going, man,
Speaker 6: I've never met a more worthless person ever, so I thought.
Speaker 6: But he kind of looked like he was going to
Speaker 6: be a guy that was going to be able to
Speaker 6: help out. So that's that's what the highway man.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was the scene I saw.
Speaker 6: He doesn't know anything about cars, he can't really help
Speaker 6: his cell phone never works. He'd like to help you,
Speaker 6: but he can't really bend because he's got this aad bad.
Speaker 5: He's living on disability. That's an important part of his characters.
Speaker 5: He's roaming the world with not a care because he
Speaker 5: has a disability from his back. Yeah, and he.
Speaker 6: Can't really give you a ride because his car's all
Speaker 6: full of junk, and so he's just a completely worthless guy.
Speaker 6: But he goes around and but in some episodes he
Speaker 6: sort of winds up helping people in the way that
Speaker 6: you don't expect.
Speaker 5: And then in some episode he has a jet pack
Speaker 5: for no reason. Yeah, it's a very Oh yeah, and
Speaker 5: Coiler had a subplot that he finds a It's and
Speaker 5: he just takes it across the street.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, he has a he finds a box that
Speaker 6: says us a top secret on it and he opens
Speaker 6: it up and it's a jet pack and so he
Speaker 6: uses it to help somebody with their car.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it is the best yeah now, yeah, and
Speaker 5: you'll love all all the faces and that there's so
Speaker 5: many funny people in it. I'm I'm very excited about
Speaker 5: it because now I'm going to watch all of them.
Speaker 2: Well do you name a couple of the people that
Speaker 2: are in it?
Speaker 6: Well, let's see, Uh, well, Demorges, you guys know Demorses.
Speaker 5: He did an Episode's Amazing Boy, a lot of friends
Speaker 5: of Patrick Keanes and on the podcast, there's.
Speaker 6: In the beginning, Oh, Francisco Ramos is fantastic and he
Speaker 6: so we we started it right in the middle of
Speaker 6: COVID and it was like everybody was pretty terrified because
Speaker 6: we're like, how are we going to do this? And
Speaker 6: so the first episode Francisco Ramos, if if you don't
Speaker 6: know him, you should, He's very funny. And so we
Speaker 6: organized this whole scene where we were both looking straight
Speaker 6: on so that we're not talking to each other because
Speaker 6: we're afraid of like it because we can't have mass
Speaker 6: while we're in there. But we were far enough away
Speaker 6: and the crew is literally just myself, Debor and our
Speaker 6: friend Carlos who's got a camera.
Speaker 5: And.
Speaker 6: So we so Francisco has his girlfriend Brooke, and it
Speaker 6: was like, all right, well there. I never even asked
Speaker 6: if she was an actor or not, but she she
Speaker 6: turns out to be great, and I think she she was,
Speaker 6: But we were more interested in, like, well, can you
Speaker 6: do a scene close to Francisco, because since they're a pod,
Speaker 6: they can, you know. So, yeah, that was all the
Speaker 6: decision making that was going into this thing.
Speaker 5: And well that's how soap operas are now. They'll like
Speaker 5: have a body double come in for actual makeout scenes
Speaker 5: and all of a sudden, the arms will be hairy
Speaker 5: because it's that actress's real life husband.
Speaker 6: Oh.
Speaker 5: All the interaction, they are clearly across the room from
Speaker 5: each other, and you can tell by the eye line
Speaker 5: when someone is looking twenty feet away, even if they
Speaker 5: shoot it to make it look I laugh. And they're
Speaker 5: still shooting soap operas like that. It's the only reason
Speaker 5: I've been watching you. So they're the.
Speaker 2: Only thing keeping America going right to me alive.
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, that's so smart. Wow, I didn't know that.
Speaker 6: So here's a question about soap operas. Like we know
Speaker 6: that TV eventually like starting with shows like Lost and
Speaker 6: maybe you know all TV since then, Like it seems
Speaker 6: like they've kind of borrowed that formula of the cliffhanger
Speaker 6: and keeping stories being serialized as opposed to like.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can't just jump in the way to heaven.
Speaker 6: Would be like you're you start and then you're done
Speaker 6: and that's the end of the show. Now they all
Speaker 6: just keep going. But now that we have those in
Speaker 6: like good TV like Breaking Bed and Mad Men and
Speaker 6: all that, why watch a soap opera? Then that's what
Speaker 6: I'm right, Why they have extremely good quality shows that
Speaker 6: are doing the same thing.
Speaker 5: I've tried to ask because my dad watches Days of
Speaker 5: our Lives now, I believe it is or One Life
Speaker 5: to Live, one of the classics, And I don't want
Speaker 5: to offend him and his wife by asking why suddenly
Speaker 5: this thing we've made fun of our whole lives, why
Speaker 5: he records it and watches it every episode?
Speaker 3: I can answer that, okay, because as a person when
Speaker 3: I was like, I think it was like the summer
Speaker 3: of like six or seventh grade, me and my mom
Speaker 3: started watching which one was it? It was young Julianne
Speaker 3: Moore was on it Young in the rest well.
Speaker 5: Did you say young and the rest you just said young,
Speaker 5: and so I'm sorry, I oh.
Speaker 3: Good close, but no, it was it was one of
Speaker 3: the other ones. But it was really good. And normally
Speaker 3: I thought it was so boring, but the second my
Speaker 3: mom and I would both watch it and then at
Speaker 3: like at a scene when they would just like be
Speaker 3: staring at each other, and then I would go to commercial. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it'd be like, oh my god, I thought she liked him,
Speaker 3: but I guess she doesn't like him. It was like
Speaker 3: this weird they seemed real after a while. So it
Speaker 3: was like this family that was super fucked up and
Speaker 3: that people were cheating and doing all crazy shit, and
Speaker 3: it was like you were checking in on like things
Speaker 3: to gossip about or something. It was really it like
Speaker 3: pulled you in in the dumbest way, but then kind
Speaker 3: of kept you because it was like, well, they're you know,
Speaker 3: they're down at the docks, and the last we saw,
Speaker 3: you know, blah blah blah was happening, and of course
Speaker 3: that doesn't actually happen, or you know, everything is the
Speaker 3: cliffhanger and the kind of like Bain Switch but yeah,
Speaker 3: I think they're kind of written to be addictive, and
Speaker 3: they've been going on forever.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like they mastered the formula, I guess. I guess
Speaker 5: they're just still better at it than even those great shows,
Speaker 5: because like there's just the frequency of those callbacks. It's
Speaker 5: like one minute per episode, whereas in Breaking Bad it's
Speaker 5: like every other episode has something that you need to
Speaker 5: have watched previous episodes for.
Speaker 6: But yeah, they just are like doling out crack, you know,
Speaker 6: in these soap operas. They're just constantly giving you the
Speaker 6: things that you have to Yeah. Well, I mean, let's
Speaker 6: face it, how many times have we been like a
Speaker 6: diner or something by ourselves and then we hear the
Speaker 6: people talking behind us?
Speaker 3: It doesn't interesting because the quarantine eavesdropping was my passion.
Speaker 3: I would listen to fucking anybody talk about anything. He's
Speaker 3: my favorite. And it's like there's none of it anymore.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's sad, Yeah, but it's it's engaging to
Speaker 6: us to just get into somebody's life, you know, it's
Speaker 6: really weird. Yeah, Yeah, to the mall just to stare
Speaker 6: at people. Now what Yeah, Yeah, those are the two
Speaker 6: things here. Eves dropping on somebody's conversation at a diner
Speaker 6: and then after they leave, having a little bite of
Speaker 6: whatever they were eating.
Speaker 5: Those are the two things. A minute chicken sound can.
Speaker 2: I think I've told you this, Chris.
Speaker 3: But one time me and I think it was Lizzie
Speaker 3: Cooperman were at the astro and I was going in
Speaker 3: on whoever whatever person that we were gossiping about. We
Speaker 3: were gossiping, and I would say about fifteen minutes later,
Speaker 3: we've got our food and we're kind of eating, and
Speaker 3: then the two girls that were sitting in the booth
Speaker 3: behind us got up and one was like, I just
Speaker 3: want to tell you that I'm a big fan of
Speaker 3: your podcast.
Speaker 2: I was like what. Within earshot she heard me just
Speaker 2: being like and fuck.
Speaker 3: Man, because that's I just suddenly got this sense of like,
Speaker 3: oh no, I can't. I can't like publicly gossip any however,
Speaker 3: someone will go, oh, I like your podcast.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah. Thank god she didn't say I'm a big
Speaker 5: fan of the person you're talking about. That would have
Speaker 5: been the ultimate terrible thing. Yeah, no, that's yeah. I
Speaker 5: had that at the airport.
Speaker 6: There was a little period of time because I had
Speaker 6: the one kitchen video that just went you.
Speaker 5: Know, yeh, Henry's kitchen the best vieuse.
Speaker 6: And but how get recognized at airports because that's the
Speaker 6: one place where like you get a just a smattering
Speaker 6: of every type of demographic, you know. And I was
Speaker 6: literally as much as I do anyway, I was getting
Speaker 6: really pussy with the gate agent, just like you know.
Speaker 6: But it's like, you know, I have three hours to wait,
Speaker 6: why are you going to charge me to get on
Speaker 6: the earlier plane? There's empty seats. I've been a customer
Speaker 6: for whatever. And then there's some guy staring at me
Speaker 6: and he's literally like, just when you're done, man, no,
Speaker 6: you're all good now. But like afterwards, hey, can we
Speaker 6: get a picture because and I'm just like, oh, you're
Speaker 6: done screaming at her? Yeah, yeah, when you're done screaming. Uh,
Speaker 6: it's so awkward. And then and then you just have
Speaker 6: to turn into a real nice person.
Speaker 5: And yeah, lax, I saw the sweet man that plays uh,
Speaker 5: the dad on Rushmore. He just passed away. But he's
Speaker 5: an actor, a character actor.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh you know his name?
Speaker 5: How do you do it?
Speaker 3: He's a classic. He's he's an old school classic. And
Speaker 3: I was just talking to somebody about.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay. I just saw him. Someone rented one of
Speaker 5: those luggage carts and didn't put it back into the track.
Speaker 5: They just left it near the other carts, and he
Speaker 5: was screaming at them and calling them lazy. Isn't that
Speaker 5: much harder to put it into the track. That's a
Speaker 5: problem with the world today. And I'm like, you were
Speaker 5: such a sweet dad on Rushmore. Oh so funny. I yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm glad that I didn't say, hey, I know who
Speaker 5: you are, by the way, because it probably would have heard.
Speaker 2: Him, Hey Krabby. That's what I feel like.
Speaker 3: The girl, the girl the auser should have been like, hey, bitch,
Speaker 3: I'm a big.
Speaker 5: You're just we were just talking about that word. But
Speaker 5: it's kind of subject change. What's your your friend that
Speaker 5: helped you made Punching the Clowns. Oh yeah, it's it's
Speaker 5: one of the best. His use of the word bitch,
Speaker 5: which is a word I don't like to you. I
Speaker 5: never let me go back though, so so Greg.
Speaker 6: He's the guy that is the director and co writer
Speaker 6: of the movies that we've made.
Speaker 5: Punching the Clown was the first one.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we met in college at UCLA, and I congratulations yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, political science majors and.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, wow wow, Chris, don't get jealous.
Speaker 5: Hey, yeah, art is a legitimate major.
Speaker 6: So you would have like one thousand people in every class,
Speaker 6: except for the way that they sort of got that
Speaker 6: intimate teaching experiences. They would also have little discussion groups
Speaker 6: where there'd be like maybe ten people and one teacher's assistant.
Speaker 6: And so that's where I met Greg. And Greg is
Speaker 6: a French national. He was born and raised in France
Speaker 6: and went to Paris University. He is French as French
Speaker 6: as you can be, except that his mother is American.
Speaker 5: Yeah, many a zero accent.
Speaker 6: So so when he grew up learning English because of
Speaker 6: his mother, he speaks English with an accent that none
Speaker 6: of us would ever know that he was from a
Speaker 6: foreign country. So if if somebody from a foreign country
Speaker 6: says something that's the wrong word, then then we correct
Speaker 6: them or it's like it's obvious why they did it.
Speaker 6: But with Greg, you have no idea why this person
Speaker 6: just said that. So this is a great example, Like
Speaker 6: I guess that at one point he must have asked
Speaker 6: his mom what the word bitch meant, and she said peutent,
Speaker 6: which is a generally derogatory term for a woman. It
Speaker 6: actually is more like a prostitute. It's like it's like
Speaker 6: saying a whore. So she just kind of like said, well,
Speaker 6: that's the same general gist, but he took it literally
Speaker 6: to mean like, oh, a bitch is someone who is
Speaker 6: a prostitute woman the evening Yeah, yeah, he thought a
Speaker 6: prostitute was bitch and that they were equivalent. So cut
Speaker 6: to you know, we're in this discussion group at UCLA
Speaker 6: and this having ascussion about about international politics or whatever
Speaker 6: and municipal politics, and at one point Greg raises his
Speaker 6: hand and he's like, you know, it's kind of interesting
Speaker 6: because in Paris right now they're having a problem with bitches,
Speaker 6: where like they'll be you know, i mean, tourism is
Speaker 6: a major part of Paris and the economy and everything,
Speaker 6: so you'll get American tourists that are trying to eat
Speaker 6: and they'll get harassed by like French bitches. We'll go
Speaker 6: up to them, starts She's like what she couldn't believe
Speaker 6: her ears, like what are you saying? And then he's
Speaker 6: like I'm bitches, you know, bitches, And then like he
Speaker 6: would double down on it, and she's just like what.
Speaker 5: Are you talking about? Like, what do you mean?
Speaker 6: And it was awkward and then uh, I didn't know
Speaker 6: that he was from France, but I was like, this
Speaker 6: guy's cool.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this guy really weird. And then another time there
Speaker 5: but they had a party or something and Henry, I've
Speaker 5: heard this story. That's why I'm telling it, he said.
Speaker 5: Henry came over. He said, Hey, do you want anything
Speaker 5: to eat? We have leftover pea if you want to.
Speaker 6: Uh, He's like he was trying to say pie, but
Speaker 6: he pronounced it pee. Yeah, you know you normally have
Speaker 6: some pea. I'm like, no, I don't drink pea, no,
Speaker 6: but it's leftover. I'll try the idea that he's doing
Speaker 6: it all with a perfectly American Oh yeah, that's the best.
Speaker 6: Does it sounds like he's an asshole? Fucking I'm French? Sorry,
Speaker 6: I'm French.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I'm French. Sorry.
Speaker 3: I thought bitches were whoores where It's like, guess what, dude, all.
Speaker 5: Of this doesn't work. No, I'm completely French, but he said,
Speaker 5: I'm French. He's so friendly that his personality it would
Speaker 5: confuse everyone because there's it just comes out of it,
Speaker 5: just like comes out of left field. That's great, right
Speaker 5: field or left field. It comes out of center field,
Speaker 5: which actually you'd think you'd expect. But any any fly ball,
Speaker 5: it's hard to catch.
Speaker 2: Honestly, the sun's in your eyes centerfield.
Speaker 5: Look at me, I can be one. That's a John fogertiza. Hey. Hey,
Speaker 5: since we last talked, we have a new president elect.
Speaker 5: That's right. I didn't get the chance to dance in
Speaker 5: the streets with you.
Speaker 3: Oh I loved the video you sent me, though. Chris
Speaker 3: on the day apparently left his apartment went down. He
Speaker 3: heard the children in the streets and sent me a
Speaker 3: video of everybody on Sunset Bulevard dancing to Whitney Houston's
Speaker 3: I want to dance with somebody.
Speaker 5: And they and it was so fucking cool looking. I thought, great,
Speaker 5: the news was going to use that video. I captured
Speaker 5: such a joyous moment because everyone was jumping and singing together.
Speaker 5: And I swear I was just walking the grocery stores
Speaker 5: around the corner. I walked through at like ten in
Speaker 5: the morning when the new was first solidified, and there
Speaker 5: was twenty people, I guess, but I was like, oh cool,
Speaker 5: they're dancing outside a barber shop. And then my buddy
Speaker 5: Jim text and said, oh my god, you have to
Speaker 5: see the street and it was people dancing on city
Speaker 5: buses and the entire street and there was no police.
Speaker 5: There was just happy people. So even the bus driver
Speaker 5: was like, oh right, yeah, me too, I'm happy, but
Speaker 5: I got to take these people that aren't on unemployment
Speaker 5: to work right now. But it was so great, and
Speaker 5: everyone had a mask on even though everyone, yes they did.
Speaker 5: I was at a super spreader event or something. It
Speaker 5: was just a beautiful maybe not the safest, but it
Speaker 5: was so.
Speaker 2: Well, you know it.
Speaker 3: That's great to me because it was like the thing
Speaker 3: where those are all the people that probably have been
Speaker 3: very careful. Most of those people if they were wearing
Speaker 3: a mask in the street, you know, they're probably conscientious.
Speaker 5: Yes, I didn't recognize any of them right exactly, but
Speaker 5: we've all.
Speaker 3: Been stuck, you know, in our houses and a loan
Speaker 3: or just with one other person for so long. And
Speaker 3: then on top of that, it's like the fucking wicked
Speaker 3: witch is dead. I mean there's people who are dancing
Speaker 3: because they it might keep them alive.
Speaker 2: That he is like that he's gone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's it was just such Yeah, people have
Speaker 3: I feel like a lot of the a lot of
Speaker 3: average Americans like myself, haven't felt that level of like
Speaker 3: we're we're so close to elation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just so scary.
Speaker 3: It's been so consistently scary for years and years, and
Speaker 3: then just getting worse and worse and worse.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't know, it.
Speaker 3: Just beyond I was afraid people wouldn't celebrate because everyone's
Speaker 3: so down in the dumps.
Speaker 5: I didn't expect it. Yeah, or i's great doubt, you know, Well,
Speaker 5: let's wait till the next few days all these mail
Speaker 5: in ballots come in. No, they were ready right then.
Speaker 5: And I tell yeah, if someone showed me video footage
Speaker 5: of me kind of hiding in a door, well just
Speaker 5: watching people dance and like crying at the side of it,
Speaker 5: you would think I would enjoy me as a festivals
Speaker 5: more or something. Well, that was my favorite part.
Speaker 3: There's definitely dudes in the street who are like, I
Speaker 3: have to dance because this is a momentous occasion, but
Speaker 3: I am not comfortable, so everyone around them is or whatever.
Speaker 3: And then there's some dudes that are just kind of like,
Speaker 3: it's only two pm, so I have enough to drink
Speaker 3: to make this work.
Speaker 2: I can't be not self conscious. I never would have
Speaker 2: done it.
Speaker 5: I would sober dancing that if they were drinking, would
Speaker 5: turn into Elaine bennets Seinfeld dancing. Yeah, yes, exactly, erratic
Speaker 5: arm gestures.
Speaker 6: Plus as being that type, that demographic of person. It's like,
Speaker 6: I knowing now that there's cameras everywhere that you can
Speaker 6: be the next viral guy that everybody's making fun of
Speaker 6: with your dancing, it's like, I forget it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the next viral terrible dancer celebrating.
Speaker 6: I have no problem with that kind of thing if
Speaker 6: it's if since I'm a comedian, if it's it's something
Speaker 6: that I'm doing. But actually, one of my worst fears
Speaker 6: is that I'm doing something unintentionally funny and then it
Speaker 6: goes viral.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, that and punching the clown the second one. Yeah,
Speaker 5: a cigarette. Someone gives them a cigarette and it starts
Speaker 5: burning his hair and he does this weird, erratic movement
Speaker 5: and falls off stage, and that's what goes viral and
Speaker 5: makes the record company interested in his work because there's
Speaker 5: all these hits on this video and they just want
Speaker 5: him to do yeah, or I'm maybe not doing it. No,
Speaker 5: that's exactly. Yeah, yeah, so funny. JK. Simmons is in
Speaker 5: that by the way from Assoula, Montana. So now we
Speaker 5: have a former president that will It's kind of like
Speaker 5: when like if someone graduates from college or they don't
Speaker 5: graduate and pretend that they did at top of the
Speaker 5: class and they won't leave their parents' house and they
Speaker 5: just start putting up posters and listening to pink Floyd
Speaker 5: and the parents he's not. I feel like they're just
Speaker 5: gonna have to let him rent a room there because
Speaker 5: he's not.
Speaker 3: Or he's gonna around Thanksgiving, go down to mar A
Speaker 3: Lago in Florida and never come back because he is.
Speaker 3: We are watching a toxic, malignant narcissist, I believe is
Speaker 3: like the clinical term who cannot They can't they can't
Speaker 3: admit fault, they can't take responsibility, they can't nothing can
Speaker 3: ever go against them. And it's like the angry drunk
Speaker 3: dad at the pizza parlor who's like embarrassing his little
Speaker 3: league son and then decides and now I'm gonna sit here,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, just like, how does
Speaker 3: this end with a person who behaves like this and
Speaker 3: cannot egos their ego is so out of control, and
Speaker 3: they're so out of control that like what do you do?
Speaker 3: And I think Joe Biden's doing the perfect thing, which
Speaker 3: is he's fucking ignoring him.
Speaker 2: He's just doing the work well.
Speaker 6: And also, yeah, like I was thinking, what if everybody
Speaker 6: in America, well at least half of America anyway, just
Speaker 6: contributed to a fund to pay him to leave, Like,
Speaker 6: we'll give you millions of dollars, just get we'll lay
Speaker 6: off that massive amount of death.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he'll take it would be worth it for us.
Speaker 5: He'll take the money. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like I will just pay you out of my
Speaker 6: own pocket to just never ever see you again.
Speaker 3: It turns out that the money in the briefcase, because
Speaker 3: we're going to put in a briefcase, we're going to
Speaker 3: put it out in the front door, so he's actually
Speaker 3: out of the building. Yeah, that money is paper money,
Speaker 3: it's not real. And then we get him out.
Speaker 2: But then it's like, fuck it, we don't have to
Speaker 2: pay a scammer whatever.
Speaker 5: Hah, it's little squares of cheese cloth, sucker.
Speaker 6: You know, maybe I'll make that a highwayman with your permission,
Speaker 6: because that's a great But I was like epy.
Speaker 5: For sure.
Speaker 3: That is.
Speaker 5: It is my favorite thing when someone throws a fit
Speaker 5: and they sit and they make themselves stay there, or
Speaker 5: better they throw a fit and leave and have to
Speaker 5: come back in, come back because they One time before
Speaker 5: he had his infamous set where he said terrible things,
Speaker 5: Michael Richards Kramer from Seinfeld was at the improv. This
Speaker 5: was like a week before that happened, and he was
Speaker 5: screaming at Ben Glieber. I remember that. He was like,
Speaker 5: you're not even on the level. Man. That was so old.
Speaker 5: He was so angry and he left. He slammed the
Speaker 5: door and then he came back in. He's like, I
Speaker 5: left my cell phone somewhere. Can we all can the
Speaker 5: staff and.
Speaker 2: Let's all get together and help you look for it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they found his phone and then he got mad
Speaker 5: and yelled again and left again. It was the best stage,
Speaker 5: I'll explain.
Speaker 6: So Ben Leeb used to run this College Humor. Remember
Speaker 6: that show was like called College Humor or whatever, and
Speaker 6: it was just a big.
Speaker 5: If I'm not yeah yet, no it is, but it is.
Speaker 6: So Ben was like a twenty six year old guy
Speaker 6: or whatever who was running this show. And I guess that, uh,
Speaker 6: when Ben Gleib made the Flyers. He said, Seinfeldt's creamer,
Speaker 6: And apparently somebody had was supposed to have told Ben
Speaker 6: that you can't say that. You just say, Michael Richard,
Speaker 6: you're gonna say Seinfeld because I don't know. He just
Speaker 6: had to hang up about it.
Speaker 5: He's only proud of his role in ua Ches.
Speaker 6: So even let's say in this scenario, let's just say
Speaker 6: that Ben Gleib is completely guilty of whatever he was
Speaker 6: being accused of. It's a twenty six year old guy
Speaker 6: being yelled at by a fifty year old what multi millionaire.
Speaker 5: He was poking in its chest.
Speaker 6: It's just not a good look, Like, how could something
Speaker 6: have gone that wrong in your life because of whatever
Speaker 6: this twenty six year old guy did.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, he had issues for sure, well and in retrospect,
Speaker 3: clearly he was he was yelling because he wasn't supposed
Speaker 3: to be on the Flyer. But really what was going
Speaker 3: on is he should not have been doing stand up comedy.
Speaker 3: Once he got there, he knew it, and the pressure
Speaker 3: began to build. So now there's all these people because
Speaker 3: you're so funny on Seinfeld, because writer's write for you
Speaker 3: and it's a physical thing, right. He clearly from that
Speaker 3: fucking set at the laugh Factory, he didn't have an act.
Speaker 3: He thought he was going to just go up and
Speaker 3: just be able to kind of just be adored. And
Speaker 3: he probably got in there and and you were on
Speaker 3: stage and there's people who it's happened to me many
Speaker 3: times where you're standing in the back and you're like, oh, fuck,
Speaker 3: my stuff isn't good enough for this, and you have
Speaker 3: your you fold internally and you give up and you
Speaker 3: bum out.
Speaker 2: But he like he didn't even have a thing to
Speaker 2: rely on, and that's why it got so bad at
Speaker 2: the other crazy set where he.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can even in the credit of thinking, oh,
Speaker 5: I'm going to be able to work out anonymously, work
Speaker 5: out some material, and damn it, there's all these adoring fans.
Speaker 5: I didn't want that.
Speaker 6: No, I'm mad, Yeah exactly, Like that's the worst case. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I don't think I have that in me. I've always
Speaker 6: I've always lash out. No, no, I mean I've always
Speaker 6: stuck out at the time. But like when a set's
Speaker 6: going really really bad, like I've always stuck it out,
Speaker 6: and I've stuck through some really awful ones. I go
Speaker 6: into a mode, kind of like what you're talking about
Speaker 6: with Biden. I just ignore them and I just do
Speaker 6: my act as if it's a speech that i'm doing,
Speaker 6: and you know, and but but I can't. I've never
Speaker 6: been somebody to think that I'm the one who's right
Speaker 6: and they're wrong.
Speaker 5: I've seen what you do. One time. Oh yeah, we
Speaker 5: were in Little Rock and the audience was terrible, and
Speaker 5: they they just someone was heckled I can't remember what with.
Speaker 5: And then Henry was having a terrible set, and then
Speaker 5: we just kind of got bummed out and he's like, well,
Speaker 5: you know, as a comic, you just want to kind
Speaker 5: of make people happy. And I guess tonight I'm not
Speaker 5: quite doing my job, but I hope your guys night
Speaker 5: ends up well. And they were all like, oh no,
Speaker 5: and then they all turned on that lady.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, because this lady was heckling me, and oh yeah,
Speaker 6: that's right. She said something particular like you know, get
Speaker 6: off or you suck or whatever. And then that's when
Speaker 6: I was like, you know, you're probably not even wrong.
Speaker 5: It's like, I just.
Speaker 6: I'm terrible, and maybe this didn't maybe this was a
Speaker 6: bad idea.
Speaker 5: My pal. Yeah, everybody turned on that lady.
Speaker 6: And afterward, I'm at the lobby and like some some
Speaker 6: cowboy guy comes up to me and he's like, hey, man,
Speaker 6: give me two of those CDs and don't don't pay
Speaker 6: no mine to that lady. She's crazy, you know, and
Speaker 6: I'm just selling them.
Speaker 5: It was like the end of a you know, one of.
Speaker 6: Those uh Charlie Brown episodes.
Speaker 2: You emotionally manipulated them.
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, absolutely, And then I go to the next
Speaker 6: town and do the same thing. You know, I get
Speaker 6: people to feel sorry for me.
Speaker 5: Oh man, the best.
Speaker 2: Good thing to fold into the highway.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 6: The best thing that happened, though, is one time I
Speaker 6: was on the road and I had a really, really
Speaker 6: awful set and people were walking by while I was
Speaker 6: trying to sell my merchandise, and it's just excruciating. I
Speaker 6: hate that I ever had to go through this situation.
Speaker 6: But this one guy came up to me and he
Speaker 6: looked like Sam Elliott, and he goes, uh, you know something,
Speaker 6: I think what you're doing is really good, and whether
Speaker 6: there's people that understand it or not, don't don't listen
Speaker 6: to them. You keep doing what you're doing because it's good,
Speaker 6: it's special and I think people eventually are going to
Speaker 6: know about that, all right, And I'm like, wow, thanks,
Speaker 6: I felt like so good. And then he said something like.
Speaker 4: Uh, that one about uh don't look now because mama's
Speaker 4: got her boobs out, and I was like, wait, that
Speaker 4: wasn't me. That was the guy that was the other
Speaker 4: guy before me. And then I realized he was given
Speaker 4: this whole awesome speech to somebody that he.
Speaker 6: Thought was the other guy. Yeah, yeah, he just oh you,
Speaker 6: Oh no, you suck. Sorry, I'm trying to find the
Speaker 6: guy I forgot.
Speaker 5: No, it was you. It was your face that I
Speaker 5: thought was open. It was the other guy's material that
Speaker 5: I enjoyed. Also in Little Rock, Not to be Well,
Speaker 5: stories are great about the times we eat it the most. Yeah, god,
Speaker 5: I got so many.
Speaker 2: I got so many, way too many.
Speaker 5: That's the same funny bone In Little Rock he met
Speaker 5: we went into a sandwich place named me You left
Speaker 5: your guitar in there? Oh yeah. He thought he'd lost
Speaker 5: his guitar, and someone brought in a guitar for him
Speaker 5: to borrow, and it was do you want to take
Speaker 5: it over from I don't think I remember, And then
Speaker 5: and so he had to borrow this guitar, and they
Speaker 5: made a big deal about it. And then at the
Speaker 5: end of the show he opened his trunk and the
Speaker 5: guitar was in the trunk. He just forgot.
Speaker 6: Oh.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was like the I guess we were drinking
Speaker 5: back then, there was a lot of drinking. Yeah, when
Speaker 5: you're in a town like that, you enjoyed the local spirits. Well,
Speaker 5: it's how you get to know the people. Yeah, get
Speaker 5: to a point where you're allowing the people to yeah,
Speaker 5: get to know you. Yes, and that got.
Speaker 3: This is just putting me in the mind of all
Speaker 3: the times I did this agent that booked me in
Speaker 3: all these college gigs, and I probably had twenty minutes
Speaker 3: of la comedy, which means in the real world, you
Speaker 3: have seven minutes of actual, relatable comedy that anyone would
Speaker 3: give half a shit about. And I was on this
Speaker 3: tour where I was supposed to be doing an hour
Speaker 3: and so before every show, I would just be sitting
Speaker 3: in my room writing out like what the actual chunks
Speaker 3: I could be doing were, and then places I could
Speaker 3: possibly go to, just how am I going to do this?
Speaker 3: And then I'd be like, and I'll do crowd work
Speaker 3: with this or that. But It's like I was barely
Speaker 3: a good enough comic to do fifteen minutes, much less
Speaker 3: work the crowd here and work the crowd.
Speaker 2: And it was so stressful.
Speaker 3: But by the end of the tour, so it started awful,
Speaker 3: and there was a couple shows where like I owe
Speaker 3: people money because of how I mean, it was disastrous.
Speaker 3: I actually, at one point I remember being in this
Speaker 3: little tiny it almost looked like a It was like
Speaker 3: a side theater and everything was carpeted inside it, but
Speaker 3: it was kind of like a diamond shape. So the
Speaker 3: stage was this triangle that I was standing on and
Speaker 3: there was probably twenty five seats in this room. And
Speaker 3: I tried to talk slow and I tried to work
Speaker 3: the room, but it was dry as a bone in there.
Speaker 3: And then I just started going, does anybody have any
Speaker 3: questions about Hollywood?
Speaker 5: Did?
Speaker 3: I didn't have like bits to answer. I was just
Speaker 3: trying to kill time. It was, I mean, when it's bad,
Speaker 3: it is the worst fucking experience.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I did those colleges, and you really want
Speaker 6: them to go to well because the amount of money
Speaker 6: that you're getting is way disproportional to me.
Speaker 5: Yes, it's like but yeah, they were they were brutal.
Speaker 5: I stopped. I did like a I did ten of.
Speaker 6: Them in as many days, and I bought I came
Speaker 6: back to LA and bought a car, and I told
Speaker 6: them I never ever wanted to do another one of
Speaker 6: those again. Like I felt dirty, I felt like I
Speaker 6: wanted to quit. I was just like I got my car.
Speaker 6: It was just like, you know, just it was so hard. Yeah,
Speaker 6: it was really really Yeah, it was soul drenching.
Speaker 5: Yeah, even that I don't miss. I of course missed
Speaker 5: doing stand up, but a lot of people are posting
Speaker 5: their their acts from before this all was happening, just
Speaker 5: to keep their Instagram active or whatever. And some of
Speaker 5: my favorite comics are in front of audiences that still
Speaker 5: it'll be a club that I like, and they're heckling,
Speaker 5: they're drunk, they aren't listening, and they're having to deal
Speaker 5: with crowd work that was flung upon them. I don't
Speaker 5: miss that at all. You would think the absence would
Speaker 5: make my heart fond for it. No, No, not at all.
Speaker 3: Well, because because the bad times are the worst, So
Speaker 3: it's like the good for me and the way I'm
Speaker 3: set up, the good times are like, even if they're amazing,
Speaker 3: I just immediately dismissed them as like, nah, fine, good,
Speaker 3: I got what I wanted. But the bad time I
Speaker 3: can walk you through, like the time I had to
Speaker 3: follow Darren Carter who used to be called Darren Carter Starter,
Speaker 3: And I closed with that uncanny impression of Bert Simpson
Speaker 3: on a skateboard where he turned his head and looked
Speaker 3: exactly like the cartoon, and that was his closer with
Speaker 3: music under follow Darren.
Speaker 2: I was no never.
Speaker 3: He was a he was a died in the wool
Speaker 3: club comic who talked about super relatable stuff and like,
Speaker 3: I grew up in this kind of neighborhood, and I
Speaker 3: here's what I'm like.
Speaker 2: He was.
Speaker 3: He was like by the book, and I was standing
Speaker 3: over on the side with my like my personal observations
Speaker 3: about myself, where I was like, I'm fucked, this will
Speaker 3: not go well.
Speaker 5: There's no observations about myself. Is a great way to
Speaker 5: describe the comedy I've been trying to do my whole career,
Speaker 5: and I just feel me. I just realized I been wrong.
Speaker 6: When I did my half hour special. This is uh,
Speaker 6: I guess two thousand and four or something like that.
Speaker 6: Dan Natnterman was the guy who did his before, and
Speaker 6: he is a monster of a comedian. I mean he
Speaker 6: is just amazing, so funny, fast, relatable, like perfect economy
Speaker 6: of words everything, and I had to go after.
Speaker 5: Him, and I just remember thinking this irony.
Speaker 6: It's like every laugh that he got like hurt me
Speaker 6: because I was like, I have to go and try
Speaker 6: to compete with that, because they're all in that mode
Speaker 6: and I don't have what he has. I'm going to
Speaker 6: be pulling it into a whole other place. And as
Speaker 6: it turns out, my half hour special wasn't that good.
Speaker 6: I laughed because it sounded like that was gonna be
Speaker 6: one of those things. As it turned out, it went fine,
Speaker 6: but no but' but I just remember the irony of
Speaker 6: going like there's so many happy people and I'm so
Speaker 6: upset right now. It's like this is so bad, Like, yeah,
Speaker 6: that was a tough one.
Speaker 2: That's the thing.
Speaker 3: It's the comparison, right, that's fucks everybody else. But it
Speaker 3: took me so long to learn that all you have
Speaker 3: to do is have the confidence to know that they
Speaker 3: don't expect everyone to be the same. You're just there
Speaker 3: doing your thing. And that's like I had to learn
Speaker 3: that after years of watching people. Patrick Keane I watched
Speaker 3: him do this at one time and he had to
Speaker 3: follow someone did a drop in, someone famous, like fucking
Speaker 3: David Spade did a drop in.
Speaker 2: Came just fucking it was he wall to.
Speaker 3: Wall destruction, there was no one left alive, and then
Speaker 3: here comes Patrick Keenan. I was just like, my heart
Speaker 3: was breaking for him, and he just went rt.
Speaker 2: And brought it all right fucking back. It was masterful.
Speaker 3: And it was him talking slowly, just talking calmly, doing
Speaker 3: his jokes, playing the reality of the room.
Speaker 2: Whereas if it were me, I'd be like.
Speaker 6: Anyway, the glimmer and the voice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's
Speaker 6: what I'd have. Yeah, No, Patrick, well back in the
Speaker 6: Bitter Redhead. I've seen Patrick, and I mean I've seen
Speaker 6: him go up for ten minutes with not one person
Speaker 6: laughing and not even a little bit shaken by it.
Speaker 5: He doesn't speed up his act. He just kind of
Speaker 5: still looks.
Speaker 6: At the wall and yeah, yeah, you know, yes, I
Speaker 6: moved out when I was seven, My parents moved out
Speaker 6: with me, you know, and like he'll just keep doing
Speaker 6: that same delivery and he doesn't and I can't do it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, his stand up lends itself to that. If
Speaker 5: you're self deprecating and you're playing some sort of an
Speaker 5: unaware loser on stage, you can it's the best. It's
Speaker 5: the best. I wish I did what he did. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and that skill, Chris, you.
Speaker 2: Seem like an unaware loser.
Speaker 5: I thank you. I mean I was sort of fishing
Speaker 5: for that, and I honestly, I don't have to worry
Speaker 5: now that do you need ride fans come to shows.
Speaker 5: I don't have to. I haven't experienced what I'm talking
Speaker 5: about for a couple of years. I'm lucky.
Speaker 6: Before we get too far ahead, I want to go
Speaker 6: back because out of context, it sounded awful when I
Speaker 6: said I saw Patrick do fifteen minutes with nobody left.
Speaker 5: No, but I've seen that it's pretty important for people.
Speaker 2: It's too late.
Speaker 6: Outside of the business and know that he's incredibly funny.
Speaker 6: I'm just saying that happens to everybody. The amazing part
Speaker 6: was that he had the skill to keep going that anyway.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, because they do like and this is you know,
Speaker 3: so inside baseball, but so often, especially throughout the nineties,
Speaker 3: they couldn't stop putting comedy shows in places where no
Speaker 3: one wanted a Commis show, so hard enough to do
Speaker 3: a sound upset at the improv or god forbid, the
Speaker 3: laugh Factory or somewhere like that. But suddenly now you're
Speaker 3: at Farfalla on Hillhurst and there's people trying to eat
Speaker 3: a nice meal and who have paid good money, and
Speaker 3: all of a sudden you're up there like, well anyway
Speaker 3: whatever where it's like.
Speaker 2: Get out.
Speaker 5: I mean I would always.
Speaker 2: Get so subconscious for the people. It's like, no one
Speaker 2: wants this.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not good. I met Karen at Lucy's laundromat.
Speaker 5: We were doing a show to people putting separating their
Speaker 5: whites like it was absent, with a bathroom behind you.
Speaker 5: It was the most you did your set in front
Speaker 5: of a bathroom, unlikely placed to do common man for
Speaker 5: good re.
Speaker 6: Well that's where that this great line from Charlie Shannon,
Speaker 6: who's no longer with us, but he was an Austin comic.
Speaker 6: But somebody told me this story one of the Austin comics,
Speaker 6: I assume, but about how he he finally realized he
Speaker 6: was done with Austin when he was opening or no
Speaker 6: following a mother and daughter comedy team and he was like, yeah,
Speaker 6: this is just too ridiculous. And he went out to
Speaker 6: LA and was just hustling and trying to get whatever
Speaker 6: he gigs he could, and he finally landed the laundromat
Speaker 6: gig and the night he was there, it was literally
Speaker 6: the mother and Daughter team and he had to go
Speaker 6: after him and he's on stage like yeah, oh god.
Speaker 5: He's like, so so.
Speaker 6: Now I'm I'm still following the mother and daughter comedy team,
Speaker 6: but this time I'm doing it in a laundromat Like
Speaker 6: that was a very downward move.
Speaker 5: To his credit. It was Melissa and Joan Rivers, yeah,
Speaker 5: which which is great out their killer No. Yeah, we
Speaker 5: Over the years, I've seen all these acts just pop up.
Speaker 5: What dude, you know what?
Speaker 2: That just made me think of at the Improv.
Speaker 3: The improv in the nineties became this place where everyone's
Speaker 3: agent got hip that they would give you a TV
Speaker 3: deal if you were a stand up comedian.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So all these actors just started coming in and memorizing monologues.
Speaker 3: And there was a woman one time, and you know,
Speaker 3: sorry if you whatever, but she was from the South
Speaker 3: and she went on stage barefoot, and then it was
Speaker 3: all the happiest jokes about women and husbands and periods
Speaker 3: and everything you've ever seen, but also this thing of
Speaker 3: like she's literally like a barefoot hillbilly.
Speaker 2: And I just remember standing on the side and just
Speaker 2: going like, I don't.
Speaker 3: Know why I'm here or how I fit into anything
Speaker 3: that's happening in this town. It doesn't make sense. It's
Speaker 3: not good. These people love it. I fucking hate it,
Speaker 3: like I must be in the wrong, Like that thing
Speaker 3: where you just kind of like, I feel like every
Speaker 3: time I do this set of comedy, I lost my
Speaker 3: vision of what the point of my career was supposed
Speaker 3: to be. Because I would see what was happening and
Speaker 3: I'd just be like, yeah, I don't do that. What
Speaker 3: am I gonna do? Yeah?
Speaker 5: What's gonna happen now? But you forged ahead and you
Speaker 5: took off your shoes and you went up after her.
Speaker 2: There are people going on stage like there was a girl.
Speaker 3: The old eighties version was there was a woman who
Speaker 3: used to do her whole act wearing her bridal gown
Speaker 3: because it costs her so much money.
Speaker 2: Shot I remember most use out of it, remember that.
Speaker 3: And then there was a girl that used to go
Speaker 3: on stage carrying her purse and shopping bags, and it
Speaker 3: was like this character of like I just love shopping
Speaker 3: and I just stopped shopping and shit like that where
Speaker 3: I'm like, ladies, can we get together and make some
Speaker 3: agreements of what we are and are not going to
Speaker 3: do on stage? Because this is then I get on
Speaker 3: stage and I'm just like, did anyone see the igh
Speaker 3: speed chase?
Speaker 2: And they're like, where's your gimmick?
Speaker 5: We don't got a shit.
Speaker 6: I saw a girl go on one time at the
Speaker 6: improv and she was kind of doing the ditsy blonde
Speaker 6: act or whatever, and she goes, ooh, I'm sorry, I
Speaker 6: just dropped something, and then she turns around and literally
Speaker 6: bends over so that her skirt comes up and you
Speaker 6: just see her thong in her ass, and then it's
Speaker 6: nobody's laughing.
Speaker 5: They're all just like yeah, and then she gets back out.
Speaker 5: I was like, what was that?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 5: I can't compete with that. I kept going, I mean,
Speaker 5: that wasn't her closer, No, that was her opener? Oh wow?
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, so to get it all right, all right,
Speaker 6: oh closer? Uh so. But I think the reason to
Speaker 6: defend La, which I always do because I'm from here,
Speaker 6: you know, I just feel like LA is whatever people
Speaker 6: want it to be. Like, there's so many different things
Speaker 6: going on. Obviously, I remember seeing you at Largo, and
Speaker 6: that whole scene was the one that I was gravitated
Speaker 6: to because it was so you know, incredible. But yeah,
Speaker 6: there was also when you went to like La Cabaret
Speaker 6: on Ventura Boulevard, there was a whole different world of
Speaker 6: comedy going on there, and every now and then they
Speaker 6: would intersect and it was weird. But I feel like
Speaker 6: other places have a more cohesive Like when you go
Speaker 6: to the Minneapolis ACME Comedy Club at the open Mit night.
Speaker 6: There you'll see like thirty comics, but and they're all fantastic,
Speaker 6: but they all have this You're not going to see
Speaker 6: like somebody who's like wow, that person looks like a
Speaker 6: complete it's LA. So you get all these people from
Speaker 6: making it whatever LA they wanted to be. Like even
Speaker 6: in New York, Like when I'd go to New York,
Speaker 6: and maybe it's only the ones the shows that I
Speaker 6: went to, but there was a cohesiveness there too. Everybody
Speaker 6: was a certain level of you know, it was always
Speaker 6: a little bit more fast paced, but there were always
Speaker 6: jokes and they were solid delivery. And everything, but in
Speaker 6: la it was really eclectic in terms of the style
Speaker 6: that people were going for was all over the map.
Speaker 5: At Largo. You guys both used to do Largo a
Speaker 5: lot right, which to me has always been I didn't.
Speaker 6: I did right toward the end of the old location,
Speaker 6: and I was so so proud.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it seems like a place that always successfully combined
Speaker 5: music and comedy, though there's not a lot of places
Speaker 5: that pulled it off. And you two are both people
Speaker 5: that also successfully combined music and comedy, and I wonder
Speaker 5: would you do you feel like if Largo was Was
Speaker 5: Largo a big part of that for you at least? Karen?
Speaker 2: Yes, for sure.
Speaker 3: I'd like to say the credit full credit for I mean,
Speaker 3: aside from Flanagan, who's the owner and he has great
Speaker 3: taste and whatever, and he was smart enough to go,
Speaker 3: we should be doing comedy here because he you know,
Speaker 3: he's the one booking all the music. But he was
Speaker 3: smart enough to pull in Lisa Langing and Lisa Langan
Speaker 3: when I started in San Francisco in nineteen ninety, she
Speaker 3: ran the Improv in downtown San Francisco. She was the
Speaker 3: manager of that club, so she knew all those people,
Speaker 3: and then she got She got when every there was
Speaker 3: like a mass exodus in like ninety four, everyone moved
Speaker 3: to la and she did too. She got a job
Speaker 3: at Comedy Central, and she was so good at picking talent,
Speaker 3: like she she she saw Flight of the Concords and
Speaker 3: brought them over and had them perform at Largo, Like
Speaker 3: she is one of those people that had such good taste.
Speaker 2: So anyway, I think that she like that she set
Speaker 2: that table.
Speaker 3: But she also knew that that the kind of quote
Speaker 3: unquote alternative style could get very much up its own
Speaker 3: ass and be like use the fact that it wasn't
Speaker 3: old school club style and then just you're there watching
Speaker 3: someone read a notebook and it's boring. So she would
Speaker 3: book those shows like That's how I met Greg Fitzimmons,
Speaker 3: who is a classic club comic in every way, who
Speaker 3: can do any kind of show he wants because he's
Speaker 3: so good.
Speaker 2: He's just such a natural.
Speaker 3: So that it was where I started to learn you
Speaker 3: don't have to get into this like box. You don't
Speaker 3: have to tell yourself you do it one way or
Speaker 3: the other, because the point is stand on stage with
Speaker 3: confidence and say good jokes. That's all so like that
Speaker 3: became for me instead of this kind of like you
Speaker 3: know what I think the cafe thing did, which was
Speaker 3: make go, here's what I did today, whatever, And instead
Speaker 3: you got competitive because you were like, well, I want
Speaker 3: to be at least as funny as the person who
Speaker 3: went on before me. Me personally, I was always like
Speaker 3: I need to win the whole thing or whatever, so
Speaker 3: I just be like out of my mind. But it
Speaker 3: was a good Like I think she pulled in all
Speaker 3: these people that kind of for me taught me what
Speaker 3: good comedy actually is, how it actually works, and that's
Speaker 3: authenticity and confidence and.
Speaker 5: Like so funny to me that it took halfway through
Speaker 5: my career to find out that confidence was a big
Speaker 5: part of being successful, right, I really even my character
Speaker 5: on stage was someone that was pretending not to have confidence,
Speaker 5: so I would have to confidently do that when I
Speaker 5: was stammering and making mistakes. What an obstacle I made
Speaker 5: for myself. I don't know why I did the confidence.
Speaker 5: I still need to remind myself. They want to see
Speaker 5: you be confident, not just funny. It's like, yeah, that's
Speaker 5: what I am.
Speaker 6: It's probably like a very obvious example, but like if
Speaker 6: you're on a plane and the pilot, whatever personality they
Speaker 6: may have, the one you don't want is for them
Speaker 6: to be like, uh yeah, okay, not really sure.
Speaker 5: Exactly what a lot of this.
Speaker 6: I'm like the worst when it comes to flying, and
Speaker 6: it's like, no, I want you to be really good,
Speaker 6: you know. But I don't think that's such a crazy analogy,
Speaker 6: because it's like, in any situation, you want the person
Speaker 6: that is driving the whole thing to be good at
Speaker 6: what they do, even if their act is being completely
Speaker 6: you know, self deprecating.
Speaker 5: That's a different thing. But I guess I've always put
Speaker 5: a thin line between cockiness and confidence. And I always
Speaker 5: appreciated when people were good at what they do, but
Speaker 5: they let you find out about it. They didn't tell
Speaker 5: you they were good or put on some vibrado. You're
Speaker 5: just watching them. They're like, Wow, this is the best
Speaker 5: pilot I've ever seen fly and he's hardly said anything
Speaker 5: except buckle your seat belt and uh. And so I
Speaker 5: always want people to find out that I'm confident. But
Speaker 5: you kind of got to put it on a little.
Speaker 5: You have to pretend a little at night, and I have.
Speaker 3: To tell you, guys, as a female comic, you have
Speaker 3: to do it even more because people you walk on
Speaker 3: stage and people get afraid for you about what other
Speaker 3: people are going to start doing. I hate there's a
Speaker 3: real weird vibe change if you're like first, if youre comics,
Speaker 3: go and then it's you I did, they get real
Speaker 3: like you almost hear.
Speaker 2: People start talking or whatever, and it's like a little
Speaker 2: bit like that.
Speaker 3: And if you I found and at least this was
Speaker 3: my impression that if you don't immediately have like boom boom,
Speaker 3: if you can't just go dude, dude, I made you
Speaker 3: laugh twice. Now we're doing this, yeah, they if you,
Speaker 3: if I took any time at the top, it would
Speaker 3: unwind way quicker than if a guy was doing it,
Speaker 3: because I because I believe there's a lot of people
Speaker 3: who just be like, oh no, she shouldn't be doing
Speaker 3: you know, it's like protect her kind of mental So
Speaker 3: I would come up and just be a fucking asshole
Speaker 3: most of the time, or just be like blah blah blah,
Speaker 3: you this, get that off the table or whatever, and
Speaker 3: just be like this is my house. Even though it
Speaker 3: was completely fake. It was all this kind of fake
Speaker 3: confidence and aggression. But it was the way to say,
Speaker 3: don't fucking worry about me, I will take care of
Speaker 3: this kind of thing. It felt, it felt very necessary.
Speaker 5: I'm glad that I've seen that changing for the better
Speaker 5: over the year, for sure, But it's about goddamn time
Speaker 5: and we're going backwards in enough other ways.
Speaker 6: So uh yeah, no, I mean, but it's funny because
Speaker 6: these are the old cliche of it's like, can you
Speaker 6: learn that in a class? Can somebody tell you on
Speaker 6: week one? Always be confident? It's like, yeah, you kind
Speaker 6: of have to learn it. You have to learn why
Speaker 6: you have to do it.
Speaker 3: You know, It's like yes, and what it means to
Speaker 3: you because like how you would if you watch Patrick Keane,
Speaker 3: you'd go, he's confident, but he also kind of seems
Speaker 3: like he doesn't care. Yeah, it comes out in these
Speaker 3: different ways, which are funny in themselves because that's what
Speaker 3: it's like. That's the authentic part, is like I don't
Speaker 3: care what you think of me.
Speaker 2: But then also here's a little of this other thing.
Speaker 5: That's the one, like confidently pretending you don't care, that's
Speaker 5: the that's the goal.
Speaker 6: It's like they make no mistake for people out there
Speaker 6: that you can't just be confident.
Speaker 5: It's not enough. You also have to have a humor. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: because I've said.
Speaker 2: To have at least seven solid jokes.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we've been that that person who's way too.
Speaker 6: Confident and they have nothing is like, oh come on,
Speaker 6: oh come on you guys. Look at this guy's looking
Speaker 6: at me like that. It's like you just didn't say anything.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: It's like, can I tell you my favorite? And I
Speaker 3: know I've told the story on this, but.
Speaker 5: It's been eight years. We just found out this is this.
Speaker 3: Is my favorite moment of the confidence issue and the
Speaker 3: me interpreting that is like kind of like aggression or bitchiness,
Speaker 3: which is very nineties. I mean that that's what everything
Speaker 3: was like back then. But there was this one night,
Speaker 3: and I believe it was me be on stage after
Speaker 3: Darren Carter Party Starter and you know, the I'm three
Speaker 3: jokes in eating it, but I'm telling them im median,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, there was no way
Speaker 3: I was going to get up there interpret interpret anything
Speaker 3: is success because he just leveled it, So anything was
Speaker 3: going to seem worse and bad compared to how great
Speaker 3: he did. So I doing, you know, like whatever, my
Speaker 3: first three jokes are and it's like fart, fart, fart, and.
Speaker 2: Then I hear a beep to my left.
Speaker 3: You know in the improv, you know, people are kind
Speaker 3: of around you, not just in front of.
Speaker 5: You by hold by a pacemaker. I'm guessing.
Speaker 3: I turn and I go, oh, I'm sorry you a doctor?
Speaker 3: Is that your beeber? Do you have to go?
Speaker 5: Do you have to go? Deliver it?
Speaker 2: At eighty and I just like went off on this guy.
Speaker 3: And I literally said like seven sentences like I overdid
Speaker 3: it out of this kind of like I'm I'm eating
Speaker 3: it and I hate everyone. And then he just held
Speaker 3: up his wrist and what is my watch?
Speaker 5: Was so great?
Speaker 2: It was just I think I did one more joke
Speaker 2: in them.
Speaker 3: Left because I was just like, I'm not okay, Like
Speaker 3: I can't stand up anymore.
Speaker 2: This is fucking George. And he didn't.
Speaker 3: He was the worst part was he wasn't mean about it.
Speaker 3: He's trying to be nicer.
Speaker 2: Just my watch. I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 5: I can see myself getting taking it further. Well, why
Speaker 5: would you buy a watch like that? And why would
Speaker 5: you wear it? Oh God, I'm dying.
Speaker 2: I'm dying, that's like, literally.
Speaker 6: When you say that they're not trying to be mean,
Speaker 6: that's almost the worst. Like, uh, there was a guy,
Speaker 6: Chuck Bartel.
Speaker 5: Do you know him.
Speaker 6: I remember that extremely funny one liner guy like that.
Speaker 6: Hegburg kind of style and he was up one night,
Speaker 6: but he would he was not immune to having bad sets.
Speaker 6: It was one of those things where like if it
Speaker 6: started off wrong, then it all went wrong, you know.
Speaker 6: But he was so funny. But I remember, right in
Speaker 6: the middle of a bad late Friday show or whatever,
Speaker 6: he did a joke and then he did just that
Speaker 6: little bit of commenting on how bad the response was.
Speaker 6: He said something like, you know, boy, maybe I'm not
Speaker 6: as good as this as I thought, or something like that.
Speaker 6: And this lady in the audience is like she sounded
Speaker 6: like she might have been sixty five years old, but
Speaker 6: she's just.
Speaker 5: Like, well, it's hard. Like that was just like and
Speaker 5: he's just like, all right, I want to kill myself.
Speaker 5: This is so great. It's hard.
Speaker 6: It was like, oh boy, you did not because there's
Speaker 6: like it's completely sincere.
Speaker 5: You know, my god, nobody's trying to be mean. That
Speaker 5: is the best. I like that. Oh, Henry, you have
Speaker 5: a dinner to go to and we've Yeah, I want
Speaker 5: you to be able to get out of here and
Speaker 5: not disappoint you friends and family. But is it fun there? Yeah?
Speaker 5: I've been uh yeah, thank you for any questions about Hollywood? Yeah,
Speaker 5: if I does Losiena go really direction? Does it go? Okay?
Speaker 2: I just an apartments?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, we're a realtor? Or how much your parking tickets?
Speaker 5: Will my dreams come true? I love the idea people.
Speaker 3: It's like jam any question about Hollywood and they literally
Speaker 3: they immediately assume that it's about the city itself.
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly how is money allocated with parks and recreation?
Speaker 5: Does that come out of a municipal? Okay?
Speaker 3: Is there a comptroller for Elliot itself?
Speaker 5: Comptroller? No one controller, but there's one in every city.
Speaker 6: How long before because we've become such a dystopian wasteland
Speaker 6: lately with just like if you go losien again Pico
Speaker 6: and it's like everything's boarded up, people are wearing masks.
Speaker 6: There's just people walking around aimlessly. And at what point
Speaker 6: does like that La La story kind of stereotype changed,
Speaker 6: Like if you're going to pitch something like, well, I
Speaker 6: wants this to be sort of an LA stereotype, and
Speaker 6: it's like, oh really, okay, so just like Red Sky
Speaker 6: from the Fire and then just sort of like it,
Speaker 6: like they're picturing more of a blade runner thing or
Speaker 6: something like that. The whole LA thing seems to be
Speaker 6: moving away from us right now.
Speaker 5: I hope it comes back, but it's not.
Speaker 6: Like the rollerblading and the thong bikini kind of stereotype
Speaker 6: anymore right now.
Speaker 5: Although I did just take a masked headshot, a new
Speaker 5: headshot with a mask, oh yeah, just to the Times.
Speaker 5: Yeah smart, yeah, thank you. Yeah, I'm smart, confident. I'm
Speaker 5: gonna I'm gonna end this thing because it's been so great.
Speaker 5: I can only und it from here or one of
Speaker 5: you guys. Thanks, thank you so much.
Speaker 6: Karen.
Speaker 5: It's so funny.
Speaker 6: It's so great to talk to you, to you because
Speaker 6: you've always been one of my favorites. Yeah you you too,
Speaker 6: Yeah right, oh absolutely, yeah, yeah, there's a there's a thing. Also,
Speaker 6: we've had so many parallel experiences.
Speaker 5: Is amazing. When you're talking about all this stuff, I'm like, wow, yeah,
Speaker 5: I really think Karen's gonna make it. Thank you, and
Speaker 5: we're gonna let's go get something neat we're gonna go.
Speaker 5: Uh you've been watch the Highwayman.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it right now.
Speaker 6: We patreon dot com slash Highwayman Show and you'll see
Speaker 6: the teaser on there. And there's a free episode on
Speaker 6: YouTube called Boots the Clown.
Speaker 5: Yes, and I just watched it and I loved it
Speaker 5: so much. And you can see him also as my
Speaker 5: real life friend Henry Phillips. You've been listening to Do
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Speaker 1: Nice?
Speaker 5: I leaving on?
Speaker 1: You wanna way back?
Speaker 5: Either way?
Speaker 1: We want to be there, doesn't matter how much baggage
Speaker 1: you us time and turman On and Gabe, we want
Speaker 1: to send you.
Speaker 2: Off INSTI do you wanna welcome.
Speaker 5: You back home?
Speaker 1: Tell us all about it?
Speaker 3: We scared?
Speaker 2: He was it fine?
Speaker 1: Melbourn?
Speaker 5: Do you need to ride?
Speaker 2: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?
Speaker 1: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?
Speaker 5: Do you need to ride?
Speaker 3: Do you need to ride?
Speaker 5: Do you need with Karen and Chris