1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: Are you leave in I you wanna way back home? 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 2: Either way, we want to be there. 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: Doesn't matter how much baggage you claim and give us 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: time and a terminol and gay a. We want to 5 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: send you off InStyle. We want to welcome you back home. 6 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: Tell us all about it. 7 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 3: We scared her? 8 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 2: Was it fine? 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 4: Now? 10 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: Porn? Do you need to ride? 11 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: Do you need to ride? 12 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride? 13 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride? 14 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 5: Need to ride? Do you need with Karen and Chris? 15 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 5: Welcome to Do you need to ride? This is Chris Fairbanks. 16 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 2: And this is Karen Kilgariff. 17 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 5: Well here we are back in the car again, driving 18 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 5: a guest to the airport. 19 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 3: Oh yes, right, our guest, Jemmic's over. Everyone's keeled. 20 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 5: We're of course not in a car. We will be 21 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 5: one day, but we have a guest today. He is 22 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 5: a very funny stand up comic. He's a writer director. 23 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 5: You can watch, uh, we'll talk more about it, but 24 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 5: you can watch his Highwayman series if you're if you're 25 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 5: a fan of The Incredible Hulk or Highway to Heaven, 26 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 5: you will fully love it. Everyone put your hands together 27 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 5: for Henry Phillips. Hey, thanks guys, good to be back 28 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 5: on the show. Yeah. 29 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 3: Yes, multiple guests on the show, right, at least once, 30 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 3: if not more. 31 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 5: I did one with you guys. 32 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 6: Uh and then also there was one where I think 33 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 6: you weren't able to make it, Karen, and so I 34 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 6: jumped in there and we was it Matt Kershon that 35 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 6: we drove around with. 36 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 5: Uh oh wow, yeah, that you have a good memory. 37 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 5: We're talking eight years ago or something. 38 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 2: That makes that reminds me of that you're my enemy. 39 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 5: Oh shoot, I forgot. Oh yeah, I forget. 40 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 2: That was so much jealousy competition. 41 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 5: I forgot. It's called the Nemesis episode. 42 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 2: Yes, face him in a mass. 43 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 6: Like for all I know, that was a real awkward 44 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 6: situation for you guys, and I just bring it up care. 45 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah one time. Yeah, thanks for bringing out 46 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 5: that three week long fight that Karen and I had. Henry, No, no, it. 47 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 3: Was the door slamming. What's weird is was it eight 48 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 3: years ago? I mean that is possible, So it's possible 49 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 3: to me. I mean, when did you guys start? 50 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 5: Oh why had if I do this? It's like, when's 51 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 5: our anniversary? I please tell me we haven't done this 52 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 5: ten years. That had to be I think about just 53 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 5: under seven years. Seven eight years. 54 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's been a while. Wow, we've been doing this. 55 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 3: We've been doing this into the wind for years. No 56 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 3: one ever cared. In the beginning, it was great. Yeah, 57 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 3: we were rather free. Yeah, just a tree falling down. 58 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 5: Well, hopefully new. 59 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 2: People in the last eight years. I'm sorry, have you 60 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 2: been in these last eight years? 61 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 6: You know what I've been doing pretty well. I'm I'm 62 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 6: currently engaged. And to Deborah, you've met Deborah. We all 63 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 6: hung out a couple of years ago at Tiggs place, 64 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 6: That's right, and a lot of laughs, and yeah, that 65 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 6: was probably towards the beginning. That was like twenty fifteen 66 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 6: or something. And yeah, we're we're actually going to go 67 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 6: to Joshua Tree and have a socially distant ceremony with 68 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 6: her friend officiating. And it's going to be very twenty twenty. 69 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 6: But it's great for me because I'm like, I don't know, 70 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 6: I guess maybe it's because I'm getting older or whatever, 71 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 6: but the idea of having a big ceremony with a 72 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 6: hundred family members and a hundred other friends, it's just 73 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 6: too much. 74 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, for sure, the top. It's weird to hear 75 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 5: you know that. Have you put out the invitations yet, Henry, 76 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 5: let's see, did you get one? 77 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 6: Well, you know, if you haven't gotten one, then they 78 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 6: haven't done. 79 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 2: This is a COVID. We it's a COVID exactly, like. 80 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah. 81 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 6: The bit I was doing for a while is I 82 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 6: would if I was hanging hanging out with a friend, 83 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 6: I would say, yeah. 84 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 5: By the way, we're canceling the wedding. 85 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 6: They're like, oh wait, and then and then I'd be like, 86 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 6: oh wait, I didn't invite you anyway. 87 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 5: No, that's okay, just forget about it. 88 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, I got some mileage with that one. 89 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 5: That was fun. But I know we haven't sent invitations 90 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 5: out yet. Yes, I was. It'll be a zoom thing. 91 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 5: We're gonna do a zoom for the family. 92 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 3: Oh, I'd love to get the code for that, and 93 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 3: I did. Just if you just email me a link, 94 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 3: I'll watch you. 95 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 5: Like funny you guys, And it's probably it's been happening 96 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 5: all gear. I bet zoom getting the code for a 97 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 5: zoom wedding. 98 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,559 Speaker 3: Oh, well, you know, zoom comedy shows aren't bad enough. 99 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 6: My dad did a zoom funeral we set him up 100 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 6: in front of the computer, and I got to say, 101 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 6: he's ninety two, and he doesn't quite know everything that's 102 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 6: going on around him or where he is. And trying 103 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 6: to explain to a fully functional ninety two year old 104 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 6: what Zoom is is already difficult. But my dad's basically 105 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 6: he just thought he was watching a movie and he 106 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 6: at one point I set him up with this thing. 107 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 5: It was his old golf buddy who had passed away. 108 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 6: And then you know, you can do the type of 109 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 6: view on Zoom where anybody who's talking at that moment 110 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 6: is the one that pops up. That's like the gallery 111 00:05:55,839 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 6: whatever view, I don't know, speaker view, and uh, my 112 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 6: dad just says fully out loud. 113 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 5: It just just goes, uh wow, everybody looks so ugly. 114 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 6: And it was like, but you you guys know, like 115 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 6: we all have since we're all comedians, we have friends 116 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 6: like Doug Stanhope, you know, who would always like go 117 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 6: out of his way to try to make the most 118 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 6: uncomfortable situation and it would work a lot of times. 119 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 6: I swear I have never cringed harder than when my 120 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 6: dad said it was so unbelievably uncomfortable. I wanted to 121 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 6: turn back time because people were just like what who 122 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 6: said that? 123 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 3: It was like so like, it's the perfect the perfect 124 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 3: line because the situation is tragedy. Oh exactly, it's like 125 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 3: a tragedy within a tragedy of like, you know, pandemic. 126 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 2: Everything about it, everything. 127 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 3: About it is said and then darn coming in with 128 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 3: a hardcore, hardcore comedy. 129 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 5: Oh man, what I know of your dad, I know 130 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 5: him a little bit that I see him doing that 131 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 5: and it not being mean spirited, it being in a 132 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 5: sweet way. Yeah, like out of concern, concern for everyone's faces. Yeah, 133 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 5: Oh that's wonderful. I love it so much. 134 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 3: Organist playing in the background. Now your father correct me 135 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 3: if I'm wrong, if I'm wrong. But your father was 136 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 3: like a recurring character on Cheers. 137 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, well, well he did one episode of Cheers. He 138 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 6: did a taxi. He just worked a lot. There was 139 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 6: a show that he was a regular on called Always 140 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 6: Forgiven that was the same people as Cheers. But he uh, 141 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 6: but he's been an actor for is he? I guess 142 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 6: he was probably about thirty six when he started acting. 143 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 6: He kind of quit his his other life and became 144 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 6: an actor and did Summer Stock and stuff like that. 145 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 6: Then he started doing Broadway and then he got he 146 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 6: landed this part in tax There was an episode called 147 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 6: on the Job where everybody loses their job or yeah, 148 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 6: and they they went and got other jobs and a 149 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 6: Lane goes to work for my dad and he just 150 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 6: knocked it out of the park. 151 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 5: Most of these roles included was that show the one, 152 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 5: Oh that's a picture that came out? Yeah, which is 153 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 5: the first time that joke I think, Oh, yeah, those 154 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 5: jokes were that's the yeah that was Taxi. 155 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 6: Yeah oh okay, but yeah, you can see it on YouTube. 156 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,559 Speaker 6: His name is Bill Wilie and but yeah, he knocked 157 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 6: it out of the park. 158 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 5: He uh, well, Henry made him a demo reel and 159 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 5: it's on there, right, isn't ye? Yeah, yeah demo. 160 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you can see everything he's done. Yeah, was 161 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 3: it that on chairs? It was within the episode he 162 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 3: kept showing up. He was the tour guy. 163 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, Yeah. 164 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,599 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, yeah, in my mind that turned into he 165 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 3: was on the whole season. 166 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's so funny. 167 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 6: The slightly tragic story, but I i've I've determined that 168 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 6: it's probably not too tragic. But my dad and I 169 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 6: remember he was in the running to be the coach 170 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 6: on Cheers, and during that period of time, he got 171 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 6: a call, uh for the sequel to the movie Porky's 172 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 6: to play basically the villain, and he took it because 173 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 6: it was like, well, do I do this pilot that 174 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 6: may I may or may not even have the part, 175 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 6: but it looked pretty good, especially in retrospect, and then 176 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 6: maybe the show won't go or whatever, or do I 177 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,239 Speaker 6: you know, do a whole. 178 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 5: Yeah port movie, it's a sure thing. 179 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 6: So he did that and uh, and then we just 180 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 6: watched Cheers turn into the biggest, most iconic TV show 181 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 6: in history. But but my dad remained friends with with 182 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 6: that whole. 183 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 5: Crew, and yeah, but Cheers was a great show. But 184 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 5: Porky's taught the world about glory holes. 185 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 2: That's right. I didn't know about that. I'm as eleven 186 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 2: year old, and that's. 187 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 5: How I learned. Yeah, Bill was part of that teaching. Yeah, yeah, 188 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 5: he was. Also. 189 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's your dad, but I honestly 190 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 3: don't think anybody but Nicholas calls Doano. I hope that's 191 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 3: how you say his name. But the guy that played coach, 192 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 3: oh yeah, it was so perfect. But he had Cheers 193 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 3: was like a favorite show, and he was so he 194 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 3: was just so natural. 195 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 6: He had that spacey thing that I love, you know, 196 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 6: like yes and Wood. He had it when he got 197 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 6: on there and yeah, but it was such a perfect 198 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 6: sitcom type you know. And uh, yeah, my dad wasn't 199 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 6: quite that. My dad was a little bit more of 200 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 6: a uh like a loud uh maybe a little bit 201 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 6: more like a Greg Proops type guy, like he would 202 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 6: always have the suit and very but like a flawed 203 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 6: guy in a suit sort of thing. That makes sense. 204 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 6: It was a very different type of a character. Yeah, 205 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 6: I'm going to turn the phone thing if I'm not mistaken. 206 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 5: Though, in in the Cheers character that he did do 207 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 5: kept going back to the bar giving tours, Yeah, pretending 208 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 5: Paul Revere had been there or something, just so he 209 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 5: could drink on the job. Yeah he was. 210 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 6: It was a tour guide who was who was giving 211 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 6: tours of Boston to tourists. But he kept on saying 212 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 6: that the bar was various things, and then he would 213 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 6: have them look around and then go. 214 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 5: To a shot at the bar. Yeah, that would funny. 215 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 5: You would never see so many fun loving alcoholics on 216 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 5: a TV show now and like, you just don't take 217 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 5: that as lightly as now you did back then. 218 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 2: The Mothers against Drunk Driving, Yeah, they're. 219 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 5: Very mad, shut down were they were? They really upset 220 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 5: at Cheers. I wouldn't be surprised that seems like one 221 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 5: of them. 222 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 3: I thought it would be funny to blame an organization 223 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 3: trying to save people from It's like, back then, when 224 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 3: that organization started, drunk driving was not illegal. 225 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true. 226 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 6: It was okay that I could see that being a 227 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 6: very eighties beef though, the Mother's against Drunk Driving and Cheers. 228 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 6: I watched a a Mormon guy speaking generally. I don't 229 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 6: have any beef with Mormons. I have some friends that 230 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 6: are Mormons, and uh they But this this guy had 231 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 6: a problem with the entertainment industry, and I remember him 232 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 6: saying that he felt like the fact that they had 233 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 6: a TV show about people drinking was the beginning of 234 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 6: the end of all civilizations. 235 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 2: Oh wow, And he was right, look a look where 236 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 2: we are. 237 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 5: Ye, he was right. And I found out later that 238 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 5: he had been a child actor. Yeah, oh it was, 239 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 5: it was he was. It's like, yeah, he was jealous. Yeah, 240 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 5: I think that was like I'm bitter too, but like 241 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 5: that's a real. 242 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 2: We're all bitterer. 243 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 5: My four wives agree. 244 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, like my dad, my dad probably could have come 245 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 6: out and said, yeah, Cheers is the end of all 246 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 6: civilization just because he could. 247 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 5: Have been on it and it wasn't on it. Yeah, 248 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 5: it's wonderful. 249 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 2: It's so good. 250 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 3: I was just gonna ask talk about will you talk 251 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 3: about your the show that you're that you just made this. 252 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like Highway to Heaven. 253 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 6: And yeah, the other one was there's one full episode 254 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 6: on YouTube. Generally they're on Patreon Patreon slash Highwayman Show 255 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 6: and uh, it's uh. Debora and I both came up 256 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 6: with the idea, my fiance and she, so yeah, it's 257 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 6: kind of Highway to Heaven. And it's also kind of 258 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 6: this show from Canada called The Littlest Hobo, which is 259 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 6: about a dog that goes from one person to another. 260 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 6: And it's like every show is the same, you know, 261 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 6: it's like from back then. It's like they would just 262 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 6: sort of show up to this area and change everybody's 263 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 6: lives and then move on to the next place. And 264 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 6: The Incredible Hulk was sort of like that too. So yeah, 265 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 6: I have a ridiculously long origin story about the highwayman 266 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 6: who was just a regular guy who was helping his 267 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 6: friend move and he severely injured his back, and yeah, 268 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 6: due to a freak accident, he was no longer able 269 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 6: to help anybody with anything, and so he had to 270 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 6: go traveling around the highways and he and he's just 271 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 6: the kind of guy that goes around and we'll see 272 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 6: somebody stranded with their car. Well, okay, the whole thing 273 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 6: started from one time when I my car died when 274 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 6: I was in Fresno and just like the middle of 275 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 6: the summer. 276 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 5: He it was just a nightmare. I was in the 277 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 5: middle of nowhere, and. 278 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 6: You know, I'm one of those like long sort of 279 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 6: highway drives that was just off the beaten path. And 280 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 6: so this guy came up, and he's kind of a 281 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 6: long haired guy, and I'm just like going, all right, 282 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 6: maybe this guy knows something about cars or whatever. And 283 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 6: he came up and uh, he he asked me something 284 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 6: like if I wanted some kittens or something like that. 285 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 6: He had kittens in his. 286 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 5: But either way, the. 287 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 6: Reason he was coming up had no nothing to do 288 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 6: with helping me whatsoever. And when that was resolved, he 289 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 6: just went back to his car, and I was like, going, man, 290 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 6: I've never met a more worthless person ever, so I thought. 291 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 6: But he kind of looked like he was going to 292 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 6: be a guy that was going to be able to 293 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 6: help out. So that's that's what the highway man. 294 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, that was the scene I saw. 295 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 6: He doesn't know anything about cars, he can't really help 296 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 6: his cell phone never works. He'd like to help you, 297 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 6: but he can't really bend because he's got this aad bad. 298 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 5: He's living on disability. That's an important part of his characters. 299 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 5: He's roaming the world with not a care because he 300 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 5: has a disability from his back. Yeah, and he. 301 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 6: Can't really give you a ride because his car's all 302 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 6: full of junk, and so he's just a completely worthless guy. 303 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 6: But he goes around and but in some episodes he 304 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 6: sort of winds up helping people in the way that 305 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 6: you don't expect. 306 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 5: And then in some episode he has a jet pack 307 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 5: for no reason. Yeah, it's a very Oh yeah, and 308 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 5: Coiler had a subplot that he finds a It's and 309 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 5: he just takes it across the street. 310 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, he has a he finds a box that 311 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 6: says us a top secret on it and he opens 312 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 6: it up and it's a jet pack and so he 313 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 6: uses it to help somebody with their car. 314 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, but it is the best yeah now, yeah, and 315 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 5: you'll love all all the faces and that there's so 316 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 5: many funny people in it. I'm I'm very excited about 317 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 5: it because now I'm going to watch all of them. 318 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 2: Well do you name a couple of the people that 319 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 2: are in it? 320 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 6: Well, let's see, Uh, well, Demorges, you guys know Demorses. 321 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 5: He did an Episode's Amazing Boy, a lot of friends 322 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 5: of Patrick Keanes and on the podcast, there's. 323 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 6: In the beginning, Oh, Francisco Ramos is fantastic and he 324 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 6: so we we started it right in the middle of 325 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 6: COVID and it was like everybody was pretty terrified because 326 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 6: we're like, how are we going to do this? And 327 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 6: so the first episode Francisco Ramos, if if you don't 328 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 6: know him, you should, He's very funny. And so we 329 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 6: organized this whole scene where we were both looking straight 330 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 6: on so that we're not talking to each other because 331 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 6: we're afraid of like it because we can't have mass 332 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 6: while we're in there. But we were far enough away 333 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 6: and the crew is literally just myself, Debor and our 334 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 6: friend Carlos who's got a camera. 335 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 5: And. 336 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 6: So we so Francisco has his girlfriend Brooke, and it 337 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 6: was like, all right, well there. I never even asked 338 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 6: if she was an actor or not, but she she 339 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 6: turns out to be great, and I think she she was, 340 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 6: But we were more interested in, like, well, can you 341 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 6: do a scene close to Francisco, because since they're a pod, 342 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 6: they can, you know. So, yeah, that was all the 343 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 6: decision making that was going into this thing. 344 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 5: And well that's how soap operas are now. They'll like 345 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 5: have a body double come in for actual makeout scenes 346 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 5: and all of a sudden, the arms will be hairy 347 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 5: because it's that actress's real life husband. 348 00:17:59,200 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 6: Oh. 349 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 5: All the interaction, they are clearly across the room from 350 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 5: each other, and you can tell by the eye line 351 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 5: when someone is looking twenty feet away, even if they 352 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 5: shoot it to make it look I laugh. And they're 353 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 5: still shooting soap operas like that. It's the only reason 354 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 5: I've been watching you. So they're the. 355 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 2: Only thing keeping America going right to me alive. 356 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, that's so smart. Wow, I didn't know that. 357 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 6: So here's a question about soap operas. Like we know 358 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 6: that TV eventually like starting with shows like Lost and 359 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 6: maybe you know all TV since then, Like it seems 360 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 6: like they've kind of borrowed that formula of the cliffhanger 361 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 6: and keeping stories being serialized as opposed to like. 362 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, you can't just jump in the way to heaven. 363 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 6: Would be like you're you start and then you're done 364 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 6: and that's the end of the show. Now they all 365 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 6: just keep going. But now that we have those in 366 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 6: like good TV like Breaking Bed and Mad Men and 367 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 6: all that, why watch a soap opera? Then that's what 368 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 6: I'm right, Why they have extremely good quality shows that 369 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 6: are doing the same thing. 370 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 5: I've tried to ask because my dad watches Days of 371 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 5: our Lives now, I believe it is or One Life 372 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 5: to Live, one of the classics, And I don't want 373 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 5: to offend him and his wife by asking why suddenly 374 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 5: this thing we've made fun of our whole lives, why 375 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 5: he records it and watches it every episode? 376 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 3: I can answer that, okay, because as a person when 377 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,959 Speaker 3: I was like, I think it was like the summer 378 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 3: of like six or seventh grade, me and my mom 379 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 3: started watching which one was it? It was young Julianne 380 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 3: Moore was on it Young in the rest well. 381 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 5: Did you say young and the rest you just said young, 382 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 5: and so I'm sorry, I oh. 383 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 3: Good close, but no, it was it was one of 384 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 3: the other ones. But it was really good. And normally 385 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 3: I thought it was so boring, but the second my 386 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 3: mom and I would both watch it and then at 387 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 3: like at a scene when they would just like be 388 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 3: staring at each other, and then I would go to commercial. Yeah, 389 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 3: it'd be like, oh my god, I thought she liked him, 390 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 3: but I guess she doesn't like him. It was like 391 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 3: this weird they seemed real after a while. So it 392 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 3: was like this family that was super fucked up and 393 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 3: that people were cheating and doing all crazy shit, and 394 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 3: it was like you were checking in on like things 395 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 3: to gossip about or something. It was really it like 396 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 3: pulled you in in the dumbest way, but then kind 397 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 3: of kept you because it was like, well, they're you know, 398 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 3: they're down at the docks, and the last we saw, 399 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 3: you know, blah blah blah was happening, and of course 400 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 3: that doesn't actually happen, or you know, everything is the 401 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 3: cliffhanger and the kind of like Bain Switch but yeah, 402 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 3: I think they're kind of written to be addictive, and 403 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 3: they've been going on forever. 404 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, like they mastered the formula, I guess. I guess 405 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 5: they're just still better at it than even those great shows, 406 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 5: because like there's just the frequency of those callbacks. It's 407 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 5: like one minute per episode, whereas in Breaking Bad it's 408 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 5: like every other episode has something that you need to 409 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 5: have watched previous episodes for. 410 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 6: But yeah, they just are like doling out crack, you know, 411 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 6: in these soap operas. They're just constantly giving you the 412 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 6: things that you have to Yeah. Well, I mean, let's 413 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 6: face it, how many times have we been like a 414 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 6: diner or something by ourselves and then we hear the 415 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 6: people talking behind us? 416 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 3: It doesn't interesting because the quarantine eavesdropping was my passion. 417 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 3: I would listen to fucking anybody talk about anything. He's 418 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 3: my favorite. And it's like there's none of it anymore. 419 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's sad, Yeah, but it's it's engaging to 420 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 6: us to just get into somebody's life, you know, it's 421 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 6: really weird. Yeah, Yeah, to the mall just to stare 422 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 6: at people. Now what Yeah, Yeah, those are the two 423 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 6: things here. Eves dropping on somebody's conversation at a diner 424 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 6: and then after they leave, having a little bite of 425 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 6: whatever they were eating. 426 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 5: Those are the two things. A minute chicken sound can. 427 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 2: I think I've told you this, Chris. 428 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,479 Speaker 3: But one time me and I think it was Lizzie 429 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 3: Cooperman were at the astro and I was going in 430 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 3: on whoever whatever person that we were gossiping about. We 431 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 3: were gossiping, and I would say about fifteen minutes later, 432 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 3: we've got our food and we're kind of eating, and 433 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 3: then the two girls that were sitting in the booth 434 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 3: behind us got up and one was like, I just 435 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 3: want to tell you that I'm a big fan of 436 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 3: your podcast. 437 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 2: I was like what. Within earshot she heard me just 438 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 2: being like and fuck. 439 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,479 Speaker 3: Man, because that's I just suddenly got this sense of like, 440 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 3: oh no, I can't. I can't like publicly gossip any however, 441 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 3: someone will go, oh, I like your podcast. 442 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 5: Oh yeah. Thank god she didn't say I'm a big 443 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 5: fan of the person you're talking about. That would have 444 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 5: been the ultimate terrible thing. Yeah, no, that's yeah. I 445 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 5: had that at the airport. 446 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 6: There was a little period of time because I had 447 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 6: the one kitchen video that just went you. 448 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 5: Know, yeh, Henry's kitchen the best vieuse. 449 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 6: And but how get recognized at airports because that's the 450 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 6: one place where like you get a just a smattering 451 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 6: of every type of demographic, you know. And I was 452 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 6: literally as much as I do anyway, I was getting 453 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 6: really pussy with the gate agent, just like you know. 454 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 6: But it's like, you know, I have three hours to wait, 455 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 6: why are you going to charge me to get on 456 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 6: the earlier plane? There's empty seats. I've been a customer 457 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 6: for whatever. And then there's some guy staring at me 458 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 6: and he's literally like, just when you're done, man, no, 459 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 6: you're all good now. But like afterwards, hey, can we 460 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,959 Speaker 6: get a picture because and I'm just like, oh, you're 461 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 6: done screaming at her? Yeah, yeah, when you're done screaming. Uh, 462 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 6: it's so awkward. And then and then you just have 463 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 6: to turn into a real nice person. 464 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 5: And yeah, lax, I saw the sweet man that plays uh, 465 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 5: the dad on Rushmore. He just passed away. But he's 466 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 5: an actor, a character actor. 467 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh you know his name? 468 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 5: How do you do it? 469 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 3: He's a classic. He's he's an old school classic. And 470 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,160 Speaker 3: I was just talking to somebody about. 471 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 5: Okay, okay. I just saw him. Someone rented one of 472 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 5: those luggage carts and didn't put it back into the track. 473 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 5: They just left it near the other carts, and he 474 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 5: was screaming at them and calling them lazy. Isn't that 475 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 5: much harder to put it into the track. That's a 476 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 5: problem with the world today. And I'm like, you were 477 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 5: such a sweet dad on Rushmore. Oh so funny. I yeah, 478 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 5: I'm glad that I didn't say, hey, I know who 479 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 5: you are, by the way, because it probably would have heard. 480 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 2: Him, Hey Krabby. That's what I feel like. 481 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 3: The girl, the girl the auser should have been like, hey, bitch, 482 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 3: I'm a big. 483 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 5: You're just we were just talking about that word. But 484 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 5: it's kind of subject change. What's your your friend that 485 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 5: helped you made Punching the Clowns. Oh yeah, it's it's 486 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 5: one of the best. His use of the word bitch, 487 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 5: which is a word I don't like to you. I 488 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 5: never let me go back though, so so Greg. 489 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 6: He's the guy that is the director and co writer 490 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 6: of the movies that we've made. 491 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 5: Punching the Clown was the first one. 492 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, we met in college at UCLA, and I congratulations yeah. 493 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 5: Yeah, political science majors and. 494 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 3: Oh wow, wow wow, Chris, don't get jealous. 495 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 5: Hey, yeah, art is a legitimate major. 496 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 6: So you would have like one thousand people in every class, 497 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 6: except for the way that they sort of got that 498 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 6: intimate teaching experiences. They would also have little discussion groups 499 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 6: where there'd be like maybe ten people and one teacher's assistant. 500 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 6: And so that's where I met Greg. And Greg is 501 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 6: a French national. He was born and raised in France 502 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 6: and went to Paris University. He is French as French 503 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 6: as you can be, except that his mother is American. 504 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, many a zero accent. 505 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 6: So so when he grew up learning English because of 506 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 6: his mother, he speaks English with an accent that none 507 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 6: of us would ever know that he was from a 508 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:13,719 Speaker 6: foreign country. So if if somebody from a foreign country 509 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 6: says something that's the wrong word, then then we correct 510 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 6: them or it's like it's obvious why they did it. 511 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 6: But with Greg, you have no idea why this person 512 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 6: just said that. So this is a great example, Like 513 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 6: I guess that at one point he must have asked 514 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 6: his mom what the word bitch meant, and she said peutent, 515 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 6: which is a generally derogatory term for a woman. It 516 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 6: actually is more like a prostitute. It's like it's like 517 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 6: saying a whore. So she just kind of like said, well, 518 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 6: that's the same general gist, but he took it literally 519 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 6: to mean like, oh, a bitch is someone who is 520 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 6: a prostitute woman the evening Yeah, yeah, he thought a 521 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 6: prostitute was bitch and that they were equivalent. So cut 522 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 6: to you know, we're in this discussion group at UCLA 523 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 6: and this having ascussion about about international politics or whatever 524 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 6: and municipal politics, and at one point Greg raises his 525 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 6: hand and he's like, you know, it's kind of interesting 526 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 6: because in Paris right now they're having a problem with bitches, 527 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 6: where like they'll be you know, i mean, tourism is 528 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 6: a major part of Paris and the economy and everything, 529 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 6: so you'll get American tourists that are trying to eat 530 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 6: and they'll get harassed by like French bitches. We'll go 531 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 6: up to them, starts She's like what she couldn't believe 532 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 6: her ears, like what are you saying? And then he's 533 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 6: like I'm bitches, you know, bitches, And then like he 534 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 6: would double down on it, and she's just like what. 535 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 5: Are you talking about? Like, what do you mean? 536 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 6: And it was awkward and then uh, I didn't know 537 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:52,959 Speaker 6: that he was from France, but I was like, this 538 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 6: guy's cool. 539 00:27:53,760 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, this guy really weird. And then another time there 540 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 5: but they had a party or something and Henry, I've 541 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 5: heard this story. That's why I'm telling it, he said. 542 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 5: Henry came over. He said, Hey, do you want anything 543 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 5: to eat? We have leftover pea if you want to. 544 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 6: Uh, He's like he was trying to say pie, but 545 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 6: he pronounced it pee. Yeah, you know you normally have 546 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 6: some pea. I'm like, no, I don't drink pea, no, 547 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 6: but it's leftover. I'll try the idea that he's doing 548 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 6: it all with a perfectly American Oh yeah, that's the best. 549 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 6: Does it sounds like he's an asshole? Fucking I'm French? Sorry, 550 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 6: I'm French. 551 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I'm French. Sorry. 552 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 3: I thought bitches were whoores where It's like, guess what, dude, all. 553 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 5: Of this doesn't work. No, I'm completely French, but he said, 554 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 5: I'm French. He's so friendly that his personality it would 555 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 5: confuse everyone because there's it just comes out of it, 556 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 5: just like comes out of left field. That's great, right 557 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 5: field or left field. It comes out of center field, 558 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 5: which actually you'd think you'd expect. But any any fly ball, 559 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 5: it's hard to catch. 560 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 2: Honestly, the sun's in your eyes centerfield. 561 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 5: Look at me, I can be one. That's a John fogertiza. Hey. Hey, 562 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 5: since we last talked, we have a new president elect. 563 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 5: That's right. I didn't get the chance to dance in 564 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 5: the streets with you. 565 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 3: Oh I loved the video you sent me, though. Chris 566 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 3: on the day apparently left his apartment went down. He 567 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 3: heard the children in the streets and sent me a 568 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 3: video of everybody on Sunset Bulevard dancing to Whitney Houston's 569 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 3: I want to dance with somebody. 570 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 5: And they and it was so fucking cool looking. I thought, great, 571 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 5: the news was going to use that video. I captured 572 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 5: such a joyous moment because everyone was jumping and singing together. 573 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 5: And I swear I was just walking the grocery stores 574 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 5: around the corner. I walked through at like ten in 575 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 5: the morning when the new was first solidified, and there 576 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 5: was twenty people, I guess, but I was like, oh cool, 577 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 5: they're dancing outside a barber shop. And then my buddy 578 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 5: Jim text and said, oh my god, you have to 579 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 5: see the street and it was people dancing on city 580 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 5: buses and the entire street and there was no police. 581 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 5: There was just happy people. So even the bus driver 582 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 5: was like, oh right, yeah, me too, I'm happy, but 583 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 5: I got to take these people that aren't on unemployment 584 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 5: to work right now. But it was so great, and 585 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 5: everyone had a mask on even though everyone, yes they did. 586 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 5: I was at a super spreader event or something. It 587 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 5: was just a beautiful maybe not the safest, but it 588 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 5: was so. 589 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 2: Well, you know it. 590 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 3: That's great to me because it was like the thing 591 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 3: where those are all the people that probably have been 592 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 3: very careful. Most of those people if they were wearing 593 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 3: a mask in the street, you know, they're probably conscientious. 594 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 5: Yes, I didn't recognize any of them right exactly, but 595 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 5: we've all. 596 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 3: Been stuck, you know, in our houses and a loan 597 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 3: or just with one other person for so long. And 598 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 3: then on top of that, it's like the fucking wicked 599 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 3: witch is dead. I mean there's people who are dancing 600 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 3: because they it might keep them alive. 601 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 2: That he is like that he's gone. 602 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's it was just such Yeah, people have 603 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 3: I feel like a lot of the a lot of 604 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 3: average Americans like myself, haven't felt that level of like 605 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 3: we're we're so close to elation. 606 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just so scary. 607 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 3: It's been so consistently scary for years and years, and 608 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 3: then just getting worse and worse and worse. 609 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't know, it. 610 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 3: Just beyond I was afraid people wouldn't celebrate because everyone's 611 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 3: so down in the dumps. 612 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 5: I didn't expect it. Yeah, or i's great doubt, you know, Well, 613 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 5: let's wait till the next few days all these mail 614 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 5: in ballots come in. No, they were ready right then. 615 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 5: And I tell yeah, if someone showed me video footage 616 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 5: of me kind of hiding in a door, well just 617 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 5: watching people dance and like crying at the side of it, 618 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 5: you would think I would enjoy me as a festivals 619 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 5: more or something. Well, that was my favorite part. 620 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 3: There's definitely dudes in the street who are like, I 621 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,959 Speaker 3: have to dance because this is a momentous occasion, but 622 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 3: I am not comfortable, so everyone around them is or whatever. 623 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 3: And then there's some dudes that are just kind of like, 624 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 3: it's only two pm, so I have enough to drink 625 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 3: to make this work. 626 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 2: I can't be not self conscious. I never would have 627 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 2: done it. 628 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 5: I would sober dancing that if they were drinking, would 629 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 5: turn into Elaine bennets Seinfeld dancing. Yeah, yes, exactly, erratic 630 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 5: arm gestures. 631 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 6: Plus as being that type, that demographic of person. It's like, 632 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 6: I knowing now that there's cameras everywhere that you can 633 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 6: be the next viral guy that everybody's making fun of 634 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 6: with your dancing, it's like, I forget it. 635 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, the next viral terrible dancer celebrating. 636 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 6: I have no problem with that kind of thing if 637 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 6: it's if since I'm a comedian, if it's it's something 638 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,479 Speaker 6: that I'm doing. But actually, one of my worst fears 639 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 6: is that I'm doing something unintentionally funny and then it 640 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 6: goes viral. 641 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, that and punching the clown the second one. Yeah, 642 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 5: a cigarette. Someone gives them a cigarette and it starts 643 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 5: burning his hair and he does this weird, erratic movement 644 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 5: and falls off stage, and that's what goes viral and 645 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 5: makes the record company interested in his work because there's 646 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 5: all these hits on this video and they just want 647 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 5: him to do yeah, or I'm maybe not doing it. No, 648 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 5: that's exactly. Yeah, yeah, so funny. JK. Simmons is in 649 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 5: that by the way from Assoula, Montana. So now we 650 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 5: have a former president that will It's kind of like 651 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 5: when like if someone graduates from college or they don't 652 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 5: graduate and pretend that they did at top of the 653 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 5: class and they won't leave their parents' house and they 654 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 5: just start putting up posters and listening to pink Floyd 655 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 5: and the parents he's not. I feel like they're just 656 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 5: gonna have to let him rent a room there because 657 00:33:59,560 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 5: he's not. 658 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 3: Or he's gonna around Thanksgiving, go down to mar A 659 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 3: Lago in Florida and never come back because he is. 660 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 3: We are watching a toxic, malignant narcissist, I believe is 661 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,280 Speaker 3: like the clinical term who cannot They can't they can't 662 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 3: admit fault, they can't take responsibility, they can't nothing can 663 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 3: ever go against them. And it's like the angry drunk 664 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 3: dad at the pizza parlor who's like embarrassing his little 665 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 3: league son and then decides and now I'm gonna sit here, 666 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,479 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, just like, how does 667 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 3: this end with a person who behaves like this and 668 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 3: cannot egos their ego is so out of control, and 669 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 3: they're so out of control that like what do you do? 670 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 3: And I think Joe Biden's doing the perfect thing, which 671 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 3: is he's fucking ignoring him. 672 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 2: He's just doing the work well. 673 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 6: And also, yeah, like I was thinking, what if everybody 674 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 6: in America, well at least half of America anyway, just 675 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 6: contributed to a fund to pay him to leave, Like, 676 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 6: we'll give you millions of dollars, just get we'll lay 677 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 6: off that massive amount of death. 678 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, he'll take it would be worth it for us. 679 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:12,439 Speaker 5: He'll take the money. Yeah. 680 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 6: Yeah, Like I will just pay you out of my 681 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 6: own pocket to just never ever see you again. 682 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,959 Speaker 3: It turns out that the money in the briefcase, because 683 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 3: we're going to put in a briefcase, we're going to 684 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,760 Speaker 3: put it out in the front door, so he's actually 685 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 3: out of the building. Yeah, that money is paper money, 686 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 3: it's not real. And then we get him out. 687 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 2: But then it's like, fuck it, we don't have to 688 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 2: pay a scammer whatever. 689 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 5: Hah, it's little squares of cheese cloth, sucker. 690 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 6: You know, maybe I'll make that a highwayman with your permission, 691 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 6: because that's a great But I was like epy. 692 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 5: For sure. 693 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 3: That is. 694 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 5: It is my favorite thing when someone throws a fit 695 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 5: and they sit and they make themselves stay there, or 696 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 5: better they throw a fit and leave and have to 697 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 5: come back in, come back because they One time before 698 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 5: he had his infamous set where he said terrible things, 699 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 5: Michael Richards Kramer from Seinfeld was at the improv. This 700 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 5: was like a week before that happened, and he was 701 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 5: screaming at Ben Glieber. I remember that. He was like, 702 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,359 Speaker 5: you're not even on the level. Man. That was so old. 703 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 5: He was so angry and he left. He slammed the 704 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,800 Speaker 5: door and then he came back in. He's like, I 705 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 5: left my cell phone somewhere. Can we all can the 706 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 5: staff and. 707 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 2: Let's all get together and help you look for it. 708 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, they found his phone and then he got mad 709 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 5: and yelled again and left again. It was the best stage, 710 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 5: I'll explain. 711 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 6: So Ben Leeb used to run this College Humor. Remember 712 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 6: that show was like called College Humor or whatever, and 713 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 6: it was just a big. 714 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 5: If I'm not yeah yet, no it is, but it is. 715 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 6: So Ben was like a twenty six year old guy 716 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:58,399 Speaker 6: or whatever who was running this show. And I guess that, uh, 717 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 6: when Ben Gleib made the Flyers. He said, Seinfeldt's creamer, 718 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 6: And apparently somebody had was supposed to have told Ben 719 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,280 Speaker 6: that you can't say that. You just say, Michael Richard, 720 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 6: you're gonna say Seinfeld because I don't know. He just 721 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 6: had to hang up about it. 722 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 5: He's only proud of his role in ua Ches. 723 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 6: So even let's say in this scenario, let's just say 724 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 6: that Ben Gleib is completely guilty of whatever he was 725 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 6: being accused of. It's a twenty six year old guy 726 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:34,320 Speaker 6: being yelled at by a fifty year old what multi millionaire. 727 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,839 Speaker 5: He was poking in its chest. 728 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 6: It's just not a good look, Like, how could something 729 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 6: have gone that wrong in your life because of whatever 730 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,959 Speaker 6: this twenty six year old guy did. 731 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 3: So, yeah, he had issues for sure, well and in retrospect, 732 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 3: clearly he was he was yelling because he wasn't supposed 733 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 3: to be on the Flyer. But really what was going 734 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,800 Speaker 3: on is he should not have been doing stand up comedy. 735 00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,720 Speaker 3: Once he got there, he knew it, and the pressure 736 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 3: began to build. So now there's all these people because 737 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 3: you're so funny on Seinfeld, because writer's write for you 738 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 3: and it's a physical thing, right. He clearly from that 739 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 3: fucking set at the laugh Factory, he didn't have an act. 740 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 3: He thought he was going to just go up and 741 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 3: just be able to kind of just be adored. And 742 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 3: he probably got in there and and you were on 743 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 3: stage and there's people who it's happened to me many 744 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 3: times where you're standing in the back and you're like, oh, fuck, 745 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 3: my stuff isn't good enough for this, and you have 746 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 3: your you fold internally and you give up and you 747 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 3: bum out. 748 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 2: But he like he didn't even have a thing to 749 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,799 Speaker 2: rely on, and that's why it got so bad at 750 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 2: the other crazy set where he. 751 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, you can even in the credit of thinking, oh, 752 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 5: I'm going to be able to work out anonymously, work 753 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 5: out some material, and damn it, there's all these adoring fans. 754 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 5: I didn't want that. 755 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,919 Speaker 6: No, I'm mad, Yeah exactly, Like that's the worst case. Yeah, 756 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 6: I don't think I have that in me. I've always 757 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 6: I've always lash out. No, no, I mean I've always 758 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,280 Speaker 6: stuck out at the time. But like when a set's 759 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 6: going really really bad, like I've always stuck it out, 760 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 6: and I've stuck through some really awful ones. I go 761 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 6: into a mode, kind of like what you're talking about 762 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 6: with Biden. I just ignore them and I just do 763 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 6: my act as if it's a speech that i'm doing, 764 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 6: and you know, and but but I can't. I've never 765 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 6: been somebody to think that I'm the one who's right 766 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:23,839 Speaker 6: and they're wrong. 767 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 5: I've seen what you do. One time. Oh yeah, we 768 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 5: were in Little Rock and the audience was terrible, and 769 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 5: they they just someone was heckled I can't remember what with. 770 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 5: And then Henry was having a terrible set, and then 771 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 5: we just kind of got bummed out and he's like, well, 772 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,479 Speaker 5: you know, as a comic, you just want to kind 773 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 5: of make people happy. And I guess tonight I'm not 774 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:49,319 Speaker 5: quite doing my job, but I hope your guys night 775 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 5: ends up well. And they were all like, oh no, 776 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 5: and then they all turned on that lady. 777 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, because this lady was heckling me, and oh yeah, 778 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 6: that's right. She said something particular like you know, get 779 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 6: off or you suck or whatever. And then that's when 780 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,399 Speaker 6: I was like, you know, you're probably not even wrong. 781 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 5: It's like, I just. 782 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 6: I'm terrible, and maybe this didn't maybe this was a 783 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 6: bad idea. 784 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 5: My pal. Yeah, everybody turned on that lady. 785 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 6: And afterward, I'm at the lobby and like some some 786 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,399 Speaker 6: cowboy guy comes up to me and he's like, hey, man, 787 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 6: give me two of those CDs and don't don't pay 788 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 6: no mine to that lady. She's crazy, you know, and 789 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 6: I'm just selling them. 790 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 5: It was like the end of a you know, one of. 791 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 6: Those uh Charlie Brown episodes. 792 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 2: You emotionally manipulated them. 793 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, no, absolutely, And then I go to the next 794 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 6: town and do the same thing. You know, I get 795 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 6: people to feel sorry for me. 796 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 5: Oh man, the best. 797 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 2: Good thing to fold into the highway. 798 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 3: Man. 799 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,839 Speaker 6: The best thing that happened, though, is one time I 800 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 6: was on the road and I had a really, really 801 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,880 Speaker 6: awful set and people were walking by while I was 802 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 6: trying to sell my merchandise, and it's just excruciating. I 803 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 6: hate that I ever had to go through this situation. 804 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 6: But this one guy came up to me and he 805 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 6: looked like Sam Elliott, and he goes, uh, you know something, 806 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 6: I think what you're doing is really good, and whether 807 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 6: there's people that understand it or not, don't don't listen 808 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,319 Speaker 6: to them. You keep doing what you're doing because it's good, 809 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,719 Speaker 6: it's special and I think people eventually are going to 810 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 6: know about that, all right, And I'm like, wow, thanks, 811 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 6: I felt like so good. And then he said something like. 812 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 4: Uh, that one about uh don't look now because mama's 813 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,400 Speaker 4: got her boobs out, and I was like, wait, that 814 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 4: wasn't me. That was the guy that was the other 815 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 4: guy before me. And then I realized he was given 816 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 4: this whole awesome speech to somebody that he. 817 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 6: Thought was the other guy. Yeah, yeah, he just oh you, 818 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 6: Oh no, you suck. Sorry, I'm trying to find the 819 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 6: guy I forgot. 820 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,840 Speaker 5: No, it was you. It was your face that I 821 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,799 Speaker 5: thought was open. It was the other guy's material that 822 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 5: I enjoyed. Also in Little Rock, Not to be Well, 823 00:41:56,200 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 5: stories are great about the times we eat it the most. Yeah, god, 824 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 5: I got so many. 825 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,439 Speaker 2: I got so many, way too many. 826 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,359 Speaker 5: That's the same funny bone In Little Rock he met 827 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 5: we went into a sandwich place named me You left 828 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 5: your guitar in there? Oh yeah. He thought he'd lost 829 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 5: his guitar, and someone brought in a guitar for him 830 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 5: to borrow, and it was do you want to take 831 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:23,759 Speaker 5: it over from I don't think I remember, And then 832 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 5: and so he had to borrow this guitar, and they 833 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 5: made a big deal about it. And then at the 834 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 5: end of the show he opened his trunk and the 835 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,240 Speaker 5: guitar was in the trunk. He just forgot. 836 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 6: Oh. 837 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was like the I guess we were drinking 838 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 5: back then, there was a lot of drinking. Yeah, when 839 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 5: you're in a town like that, you enjoyed the local spirits. Well, 840 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 5: it's how you get to know the people. Yeah, get 841 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,719 Speaker 5: to a point where you're allowing the people to yeah, 842 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 5: get to know you. Yes, and that got. 843 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,399 Speaker 3: This is just putting me in the mind of all 844 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 3: the times I did this agent that booked me in 845 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 3: all these college gigs, and I probably had twenty minutes 846 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 3: of la comedy, which means in the real world, you 847 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:09,319 Speaker 3: have seven minutes of actual, relatable comedy that anyone would 848 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 3: give half a shit about. And I was on this 849 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 3: tour where I was supposed to be doing an hour 850 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 3: and so before every show, I would just be sitting 851 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 3: in my room writing out like what the actual chunks 852 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 3: I could be doing were, and then places I could 853 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,839 Speaker 3: possibly go to, just how am I going to do this? 854 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,799 Speaker 3: And then I'd be like, and I'll do crowd work 855 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,320 Speaker 3: with this or that. But It's like I was barely 856 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,879 Speaker 3: a good enough comic to do fifteen minutes, much less 857 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,359 Speaker 3: work the crowd here and work the crowd. 858 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 2: And it was so stressful. 859 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 3: But by the end of the tour, so it started awful, 860 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,879 Speaker 3: and there was a couple shows where like I owe 861 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:47,359 Speaker 3: people money because of how I mean, it was disastrous. 862 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 3: I actually, at one point I remember being in this 863 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 3: little tiny it almost looked like a It was like 864 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,640 Speaker 3: a side theater and everything was carpeted inside it, but 865 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 3: it was kind of like a diamond shape. So the 866 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 3: stage was this triangle that I was standing on and 867 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,799 Speaker 3: there was probably twenty five seats in this room. And 868 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 3: I tried to talk slow and I tried to work 869 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,879 Speaker 3: the room, but it was dry as a bone in there. 870 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,239 Speaker 3: And then I just started going, does anybody have any 871 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:14,440 Speaker 3: questions about Hollywood? 872 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 5: Did? 873 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,839 Speaker 3: I didn't have like bits to answer. I was just 874 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 3: trying to kill time. It was, I mean, when it's bad, 875 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,920 Speaker 3: it is the worst fucking experience. 876 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, And I did those colleges, and you really want 877 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,240 Speaker 6: them to go to well because the amount of money 878 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 6: that you're getting is way disproportional to me. 879 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,720 Speaker 5: Yes, it's like but yeah, they were they were brutal. 880 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 5: I stopped. I did like a I did ten of. 881 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 6: Them in as many days, and I bought I came 882 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,400 Speaker 6: back to LA and bought a car, and I told 883 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 6: them I never ever wanted to do another one of 884 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 6: those again. Like I felt dirty, I felt like I 885 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 6: wanted to quit. I was just like I got my car. 886 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 6: It was just like, you know, just it was so hard. Yeah, 887 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 6: it was really really Yeah, it was soul drenching. 888 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, even that I don't miss. I of course missed 889 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,759 Speaker 5: doing stand up, but a lot of people are posting 890 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,920 Speaker 5: their their acts from before this all was happening, just 891 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 5: to keep their Instagram active or whatever. And some of 892 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 5: my favorite comics are in front of audiences that still 893 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,360 Speaker 5: it'll be a club that I like, and they're heckling, 894 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 5: they're drunk, they aren't listening, and they're having to deal 895 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 5: with crowd work that was flung upon them. I don't 896 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:31,880 Speaker 5: miss that at all. You would think the absence would 897 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 5: make my heart fond for it. No, No, not at all. 898 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 3: Well, because because the bad times are the worst, So 899 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,439 Speaker 3: it's like the good for me and the way I'm 900 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,880 Speaker 3: set up, the good times are like, even if they're amazing, 901 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,680 Speaker 3: I just immediately dismissed them as like, nah, fine, good, 902 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 3: I got what I wanted. But the bad time I 903 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,400 Speaker 3: can walk you through, like the time I had to 904 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:58,279 Speaker 3: follow Darren Carter who used to be called Darren Carter Starter, 905 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 3: And I closed with that uncanny impression of Bert Simpson 906 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,880 Speaker 3: on a skateboard where he turned his head and looked 907 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,120 Speaker 3: exactly like the cartoon, and that was his closer with 908 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,840 Speaker 3: music under follow Darren. 909 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:13,759 Speaker 2: I was no never. 910 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,640 Speaker 3: He was a he was a died in the wool 911 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,359 Speaker 3: club comic who talked about super relatable stuff and like, 912 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 3: I grew up in this kind of neighborhood, and I 913 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:22,920 Speaker 3: here's what I'm like. 914 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 2: He was. 915 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,960 Speaker 3: He was like by the book, and I was standing 916 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 3: over on the side with my like my personal observations 917 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 3: about myself, where I was like, I'm fucked, this will 918 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 3: not go well. 919 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:38,400 Speaker 5: There's no observations about myself. Is a great way to 920 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:42,240 Speaker 5: describe the comedy I've been trying to do my whole career, 921 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,840 Speaker 5: and I just feel me. I just realized I been wrong. 922 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:50,799 Speaker 6: When I did my half hour special. This is uh, 923 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,399 Speaker 6: I guess two thousand and four or something like that. 924 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 6: Dan Natnterman was the guy who did his before, and 925 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,759 Speaker 6: he is a monster of a comedian. I mean he 926 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 6: is just amazing, so funny, fast, relatable, like perfect economy 927 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,960 Speaker 6: of words everything, and I had to go after. 928 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,520 Speaker 5: Him, and I just remember thinking this irony. 929 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 6: It's like every laugh that he got like hurt me 930 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,359 Speaker 6: because I was like, I have to go and try 931 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,880 Speaker 6: to compete with that, because they're all in that mode 932 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,200 Speaker 6: and I don't have what he has. I'm going to 933 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:27,319 Speaker 6: be pulling it into a whole other place. And as 934 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,839 Speaker 6: it turns out, my half hour special wasn't that good. 935 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 6: I laughed because it sounded like that was gonna be 936 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:35,839 Speaker 6: one of those things. As it turned out, it went fine, 937 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:43,000 Speaker 6: but no but' but I just remember the irony of 938 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,560 Speaker 6: going like there's so many happy people and I'm so 939 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 6: upset right now. It's like this is so bad, Like, yeah, 940 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:50,960 Speaker 6: that was a tough one. 941 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:51,919 Speaker 2: That's the thing. 942 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:56,120 Speaker 3: It's the comparison, right, that's fucks everybody else. But it 943 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 3: took me so long to learn that all you have 944 00:47:58,239 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 3: to do is have the confidence to know that they 945 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,359 Speaker 3: don't expect everyone to be the same. You're just there 946 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,279 Speaker 3: doing your thing. And that's like I had to learn 947 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 3: that after years of watching people. Patrick Keane I watched 948 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:10,799 Speaker 3: him do this at one time and he had to 949 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 3: follow someone did a drop in, someone famous, like fucking 950 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 3: David Spade did a drop in. 951 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,560 Speaker 2: Came just fucking it was he wall to. 952 00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:23,040 Speaker 3: Wall destruction, there was no one left alive, and then 953 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,359 Speaker 3: here comes Patrick Keenan. I was just like, my heart 954 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 3: was breaking for him, and he just went rt. 955 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:32,080 Speaker 2: And brought it all right fucking back. It was masterful. 956 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:36,759 Speaker 3: And it was him talking slowly, just talking calmly, doing 957 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,719 Speaker 3: his jokes, playing the reality of the room. 958 00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,480 Speaker 2: Whereas if it were me, I'd be like. 959 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:46,799 Speaker 6: Anyway, the glimmer and the voice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's 960 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,719 Speaker 6: what I'd have. Yeah, No, Patrick, well back in the 961 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:54,359 Speaker 6: Bitter Redhead. I've seen Patrick, and I mean I've seen 962 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,280 Speaker 6: him go up for ten minutes with not one person 963 00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:02,080 Speaker 6: laughing and not even a little bit shaken by it. 964 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,360 Speaker 5: He doesn't speed up his act. He just kind of 965 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:05,040 Speaker 5: still looks. 966 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,759 Speaker 6: At the wall and yeah, yeah, you know, yes, I 967 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,719 Speaker 6: moved out when I was seven, My parents moved out 968 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,280 Speaker 6: with me, you know, and like he'll just keep doing 969 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:17,120 Speaker 6: that same delivery and he doesn't and I can't do it. 970 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, his stand up lends itself to that. If 971 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:24,239 Speaker 5: you're self deprecating and you're playing some sort of an 972 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:28,399 Speaker 5: unaware loser on stage, you can it's the best. It's 973 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,399 Speaker 5: the best. I wish I did what he did. Yeah, 974 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 5: and that skill, Chris, you. 975 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:33,680 Speaker 2: Seem like an unaware loser. 976 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,240 Speaker 5: I thank you. I mean I was sort of fishing 977 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,920 Speaker 5: for that, and I honestly, I don't have to worry 978 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,440 Speaker 5: now that do you need ride fans come to shows. 979 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,240 Speaker 5: I don't have to. I haven't experienced what I'm talking 980 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,359 Speaker 5: about for a couple of years. I'm lucky. 981 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 6: Before we get too far ahead, I want to go 982 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,920 Speaker 6: back because out of context, it sounded awful when I 983 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,799 Speaker 6: said I saw Patrick do fifteen minutes with nobody left. 984 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 5: No, but I've seen that it's pretty important for people. 985 00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:57,960 Speaker 2: It's too late. 986 00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,279 Speaker 6: Outside of the business and know that he's incredibly funny. 987 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,799 Speaker 6: I'm just saying that happens to everybody. The amazing part 988 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,120 Speaker 6: was that he had the skill to keep going that anyway. 989 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, because they do like and this is you know, 990 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:12,440 Speaker 3: so inside baseball, but so often, especially throughout the nineties, 991 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,719 Speaker 3: they couldn't stop putting comedy shows in places where no 992 00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,359 Speaker 3: one wanted a Commis show, so hard enough to do 993 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:22,120 Speaker 3: a sound upset at the improv or god forbid, the 994 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,040 Speaker 3: laugh Factory or somewhere like that. But suddenly now you're 995 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,839 Speaker 3: at Farfalla on Hillhurst and there's people trying to eat 996 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,440 Speaker 3: a nice meal and who have paid good money, and 997 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,680 Speaker 3: all of a sudden you're up there like, well anyway 998 00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 3: whatever where it's like. 999 00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:37,319 Speaker 2: Get out. 1000 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:38,920 Speaker 5: I mean I would always. 1001 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:42,319 Speaker 2: Get so subconscious for the people. It's like, no one 1002 00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:42,799 Speaker 2: wants this. 1003 00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:47,279 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not good. I met Karen at Lucy's laundromat. 1004 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,839 Speaker 5: We were doing a show to people putting separating their 1005 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:55,279 Speaker 5: whites like it was absent, with a bathroom behind you. 1006 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,359 Speaker 5: It was the most you did your set in front 1007 00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,960 Speaker 5: of a bathroom, unlikely placed to do common man for 1008 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:01,319 Speaker 5: good re. 1009 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,240 Speaker 6: Well that's where that this great line from Charlie Shannon, 1010 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,720 Speaker 6: who's no longer with us, but he was an Austin comic. 1011 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:11,920 Speaker 6: But somebody told me this story one of the Austin comics, 1012 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:16,160 Speaker 6: I assume, but about how he he finally realized he 1013 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,799 Speaker 6: was done with Austin when he was opening or no 1014 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:24,799 Speaker 6: following a mother and daughter comedy team and he was like, yeah, 1015 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,719 Speaker 6: this is just too ridiculous. And he went out to 1016 00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,280 Speaker 6: LA and was just hustling and trying to get whatever 1017 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,919 Speaker 6: he gigs he could, and he finally landed the laundromat 1018 00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,800 Speaker 6: gig and the night he was there, it was literally 1019 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,200 Speaker 6: the mother and Daughter team and he had to go 1020 00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 6: after him and he's on stage like yeah, oh god. 1021 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,200 Speaker 5: He's like, so so. 1022 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:49,759 Speaker 6: Now I'm I'm still following the mother and daughter comedy team, 1023 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 6: but this time I'm doing it in a laundromat Like 1024 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:53,680 Speaker 6: that was a very downward move. 1025 00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 5: To his credit. It was Melissa and Joan Rivers, yeah, 1026 00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:01,440 Speaker 5: which which is great out their killer No. Yeah, we 1027 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,359 Speaker 5: Over the years, I've seen all these acts just pop up. 1028 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:05,640 Speaker 5: What dude, you know what? 1029 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,440 Speaker 2: That just made me think of at the Improv. 1030 00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,960 Speaker 3: The improv in the nineties became this place where everyone's 1031 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,160 Speaker 3: agent got hip that they would give you a TV 1032 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,480 Speaker 3: deal if you were a stand up comedian. 1033 00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:16,799 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1034 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,560 Speaker 3: So all these actors just started coming in and memorizing monologues. 1035 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,319 Speaker 3: And there was a woman one time, and you know, 1036 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:27,840 Speaker 3: sorry if you whatever, but she was from the South 1037 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,120 Speaker 3: and she went on stage barefoot, and then it was 1038 00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,360 Speaker 3: all the happiest jokes about women and husbands and periods 1039 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,640 Speaker 3: and everything you've ever seen, but also this thing of 1040 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,600 Speaker 3: like she's literally like a barefoot hillbilly. 1041 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,440 Speaker 2: And I just remember standing on the side and just 1042 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,759 Speaker 2: going like, I don't. 1043 00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:48,200 Speaker 3: Know why I'm here or how I fit into anything 1044 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,879 Speaker 3: that's happening in this town. It doesn't make sense. It's 1045 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,480 Speaker 3: not good. These people love it. I fucking hate it, 1046 00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,440 Speaker 3: like I must be in the wrong, Like that thing 1047 00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,399 Speaker 3: where you just kind of like, I feel like every 1048 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,279 Speaker 3: time I do this set of comedy, I lost my 1049 00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,240 Speaker 3: vision of what the point of my career was supposed 1050 00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:06,960 Speaker 3: to be. Because I would see what was happening and 1051 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,480 Speaker 3: I'd just be like, yeah, I don't do that. What 1052 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:10,919 Speaker 3: am I gonna do? Yeah? 1053 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,520 Speaker 5: What's gonna happen now? But you forged ahead and you 1054 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,960 Speaker 5: took off your shoes and you went up after her. 1055 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,200 Speaker 2: There are people going on stage like there was a girl. 1056 00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,239 Speaker 3: The old eighties version was there was a woman who 1057 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,719 Speaker 3: used to do her whole act wearing her bridal gown 1058 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:30,080 Speaker 3: because it costs her so much money. 1059 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,480 Speaker 2: Shot I remember most use out of it, remember that. 1060 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,279 Speaker 3: And then there was a girl that used to go 1061 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,680 Speaker 3: on stage carrying her purse and shopping bags, and it 1062 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,960 Speaker 3: was like this character of like I just love shopping 1063 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,359 Speaker 3: and I just stopped shopping and shit like that where 1064 00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,560 Speaker 3: I'm like, ladies, can we get together and make some 1065 00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,600 Speaker 3: agreements of what we are and are not going to 1066 00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,120 Speaker 3: do on stage? Because this is then I get on 1067 00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:50,879 Speaker 3: stage and I'm just like, did anyone see the igh 1068 00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:51,439 Speaker 3: speed chase? 1069 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:53,000 Speaker 2: And they're like, where's your gimmick? 1070 00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:53,959 Speaker 5: We don't got a shit. 1071 00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,719 Speaker 6: I saw a girl go on one time at the 1072 00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:01,560 Speaker 6: improv and she was kind of doing the ditsy blonde 1073 00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,440 Speaker 6: act or whatever, and she goes, ooh, I'm sorry, I 1074 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,120 Speaker 6: just dropped something, and then she turns around and literally 1075 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,359 Speaker 6: bends over so that her skirt comes up and you 1076 00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:12,600 Speaker 6: just see her thong in her ass, and then it's 1077 00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:13,600 Speaker 6: nobody's laughing. 1078 00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:17,040 Speaker 5: They're all just like yeah, and then she gets back out. 1079 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:18,719 Speaker 5: I was like, what was that? 1080 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:19,640 Speaker 1: Wow? 1081 00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,000 Speaker 5: I can't compete with that. I kept going, I mean, 1082 00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:25,080 Speaker 5: that wasn't her closer, No, that was her opener? Oh wow? 1083 00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,880 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, so to get it all right, all right, 1084 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:37,320 Speaker 6: oh closer? Uh so. But I think the reason to 1085 00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,080 Speaker 6: defend La, which I always do because I'm from here, 1086 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:44,840 Speaker 6: you know, I just feel like LA is whatever people 1087 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,080 Speaker 6: want it to be. Like, there's so many different things 1088 00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,799 Speaker 6: going on. Obviously, I remember seeing you at Largo, and 1089 00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,319 Speaker 6: that whole scene was the one that I was gravitated 1090 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,799 Speaker 6: to because it was so you know, incredible. But yeah, 1091 00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,319 Speaker 6: there was also when you went to like La Cabaret 1092 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,600 Speaker 6: on Ventura Boulevard, there was a whole different world of 1093 00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,760 Speaker 6: comedy going on there, and every now and then they 1094 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,719 Speaker 6: would intersect and it was weird. But I feel like 1095 00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,960 Speaker 6: other places have a more cohesive Like when you go 1096 00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:14,680 Speaker 6: to the Minneapolis ACME Comedy Club at the open Mit night. 1097 00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:18,560 Speaker 6: There you'll see like thirty comics, but and they're all fantastic, 1098 00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,000 Speaker 6: but they all have this You're not going to see 1099 00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,279 Speaker 6: like somebody who's like wow, that person looks like a 1100 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,960 Speaker 6: complete it's LA. So you get all these people from 1101 00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,640 Speaker 6: making it whatever LA they wanted to be. Like even 1102 00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,439 Speaker 6: in New York, Like when I'd go to New York, 1103 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,360 Speaker 6: and maybe it's only the ones the shows that I 1104 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,120 Speaker 6: went to, but there was a cohesiveness there too. Everybody 1105 00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,760 Speaker 6: was a certain level of you know, it was always 1106 00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:41,480 Speaker 6: a little bit more fast paced, but there were always 1107 00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,279 Speaker 6: jokes and they were solid delivery. And everything, but in 1108 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:49,000 Speaker 6: la it was really eclectic in terms of the style 1109 00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,480 Speaker 6: that people were going for was all over the map. 1110 00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,120 Speaker 5: At Largo. You guys both used to do Largo a 1111 00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:58,000 Speaker 5: lot right, which to me has always been I didn't. 1112 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,280 Speaker 6: I did right toward the end of the old location, 1113 00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,120 Speaker 6: and I was so so proud. 1114 00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:07,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, it seems like a place that always successfully combined 1115 00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,400 Speaker 5: music and comedy, though there's not a lot of places 1116 00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,720 Speaker 5: that pulled it off. And you two are both people 1117 00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:17,279 Speaker 5: that also successfully combined music and comedy, and I wonder 1118 00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,360 Speaker 5: would you do you feel like if Largo was Was 1119 00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,560 Speaker 5: Largo a big part of that for you at least? Karen? 1120 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:24,600 Speaker 2: Yes, for sure. 1121 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,399 Speaker 3: I'd like to say the credit full credit for I mean, 1122 00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,640 Speaker 3: aside from Flanagan, who's the owner and he has great 1123 00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,360 Speaker 3: taste and whatever, and he was smart enough to go, 1124 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,440 Speaker 3: we should be doing comedy here because he you know, 1125 00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,920 Speaker 3: he's the one booking all the music. But he was 1126 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,440 Speaker 3: smart enough to pull in Lisa Langing and Lisa Langan 1127 00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,239 Speaker 3: when I started in San Francisco in nineteen ninety, she 1128 00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:49,520 Speaker 3: ran the Improv in downtown San Francisco. She was the 1129 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,880 Speaker 3: manager of that club, so she knew all those people, 1130 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,600 Speaker 3: and then she got She got when every there was 1131 00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,879 Speaker 3: like a mass exodus in like ninety four, everyone moved 1132 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,279 Speaker 3: to la and she did too. She got a job 1133 00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,760 Speaker 3: at Comedy Central, and she was so good at picking talent, 1134 00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:08,960 Speaker 3: like she she she saw Flight of the Concords and 1135 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,279 Speaker 3: brought them over and had them perform at Largo, Like 1136 00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,680 Speaker 3: she is one of those people that had such good taste. 1137 00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,560 Speaker 2: So anyway, I think that she like that she set 1138 00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:18,240 Speaker 2: that table. 1139 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,919 Speaker 3: But she also knew that that the kind of quote 1140 00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:25,680 Speaker 3: unquote alternative style could get very much up its own 1141 00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,360 Speaker 3: ass and be like use the fact that it wasn't 1142 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,480 Speaker 3: old school club style and then just you're there watching 1143 00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:33,720 Speaker 3: someone read a notebook and it's boring. So she would 1144 00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,880 Speaker 3: book those shows like That's how I met Greg Fitzimmons, 1145 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:40,200 Speaker 3: who is a classic club comic in every way, who 1146 00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,680 Speaker 3: can do any kind of show he wants because he's 1147 00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:44,320 Speaker 3: so good. 1148 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:45,640 Speaker 2: He's just such a natural. 1149 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,240 Speaker 3: So that it was where I started to learn you 1150 00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,680 Speaker 3: don't have to get into this like box. You don't 1151 00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:53,640 Speaker 3: have to tell yourself you do it one way or 1152 00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,400 Speaker 3: the other, because the point is stand on stage with 1153 00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,480 Speaker 3: confidence and say good jokes. That's all so like that 1154 00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:03,400 Speaker 3: became for me instead of this kind of like you 1155 00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,080 Speaker 3: know what I think the cafe thing did, which was 1156 00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:09,080 Speaker 3: make go, here's what I did today, whatever, And instead 1157 00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,640 Speaker 3: you got competitive because you were like, well, I want 1158 00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,800 Speaker 3: to be at least as funny as the person who 1159 00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,600 Speaker 3: went on before me. Me personally, I was always like 1160 00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:18,560 Speaker 3: I need to win the whole thing or whatever, so 1161 00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,080 Speaker 3: I just be like out of my mind. But it 1162 00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,440 Speaker 3: was a good Like I think she pulled in all 1163 00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,200 Speaker 3: these people that kind of for me taught me what 1164 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,760 Speaker 3: good comedy actually is, how it actually works, and that's 1165 00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,040 Speaker 3: authenticity and confidence and. 1166 00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:35,000 Speaker 5: Like so funny to me that it took halfway through 1167 00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,760 Speaker 5: my career to find out that confidence was a big 1168 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:41,600 Speaker 5: part of being successful, right, I really even my character 1169 00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:45,480 Speaker 5: on stage was someone that was pretending not to have confidence, 1170 00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,400 Speaker 5: so I would have to confidently do that when I 1171 00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:52,360 Speaker 5: was stammering and making mistakes. What an obstacle I made 1172 00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:55,200 Speaker 5: for myself. I don't know why I did the confidence. 1173 00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:58,160 Speaker 5: I still need to remind myself. They want to see 1174 00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:02,680 Speaker 5: you be confident, not just funny. It's like, yeah, that's 1175 00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:03,120 Speaker 5: what I am. 1176 00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:06,680 Speaker 6: It's probably like a very obvious example, but like if 1177 00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:11,760 Speaker 6: you're on a plane and the pilot, whatever personality they 1178 00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:15,240 Speaker 6: may have, the one you don't want is for them 1179 00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:20,320 Speaker 6: to be like, uh yeah, okay, not really sure. 1180 00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:21,160 Speaker 5: Exactly what a lot of this. 1181 00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,440 Speaker 6: I'm like the worst when it comes to flying, and 1182 00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:25,800 Speaker 6: it's like, no, I want you to be really good, 1183 00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,480 Speaker 6: you know. But I don't think that's such a crazy analogy, 1184 00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:32,080 Speaker 6: because it's like, in any situation, you want the person 1185 00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,120 Speaker 6: that is driving the whole thing to be good at 1186 00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:38,160 Speaker 6: what they do, even if their act is being completely 1187 00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:39,520 Speaker 6: you know, self deprecating. 1188 00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:43,120 Speaker 5: That's a different thing. But I guess I've always put 1189 00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,840 Speaker 5: a thin line between cockiness and confidence. And I always 1190 00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,160 Speaker 5: appreciated when people were good at what they do, but 1191 00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:53,080 Speaker 5: they let you find out about it. They didn't tell 1192 00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:56,240 Speaker 5: you they were good or put on some vibrado. You're 1193 00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:58,680 Speaker 5: just watching them. They're like, Wow, this is the best 1194 00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:02,560 Speaker 5: pilot I've ever seen fly and he's hardly said anything 1195 01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:05,680 Speaker 5: except buckle your seat belt and uh. And so I 1196 01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:09,080 Speaker 5: always want people to find out that I'm confident. But 1197 01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,280 Speaker 5: you kind of got to put it on a little. 1198 01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,720 Speaker 5: You have to pretend a little at night, and I have. 1199 01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,480 Speaker 3: To tell you, guys, as a female comic, you have 1200 01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,920 Speaker 3: to do it even more because people you walk on 1201 01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,200 Speaker 3: stage and people get afraid for you about what other 1202 01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,160 Speaker 3: people are going to start doing. I hate there's a 1203 01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:28,000 Speaker 3: real weird vibe change if you're like first, if youre comics, 1204 01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:31,760 Speaker 3: go and then it's you I did, they get real 1205 01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:33,720 Speaker 3: like you almost hear. 1206 01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:35,600 Speaker 2: People start talking or whatever, and it's like a little 1207 01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:36,040 Speaker 2: bit like that. 1208 01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,320 Speaker 3: And if you I found and at least this was 1209 01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:41,760 Speaker 3: my impression that if you don't immediately have like boom boom, 1210 01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:43,600 Speaker 3: if you can't just go dude, dude, I made you 1211 01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,200 Speaker 3: laugh twice. Now we're doing this, yeah, they if you, 1212 01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,400 Speaker 3: if I took any time at the top, it would 1213 01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,120 Speaker 3: unwind way quicker than if a guy was doing it, 1214 01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,400 Speaker 3: because I because I believe there's a lot of people 1215 01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:57,440 Speaker 3: who just be like, oh no, she shouldn't be doing 1216 01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,840 Speaker 3: you know, it's like protect her kind of mental So 1217 01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:03,160 Speaker 3: I would come up and just be a fucking asshole 1218 01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:05,720 Speaker 3: most of the time, or just be like blah blah blah, 1219 01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,240 Speaker 3: you this, get that off the table or whatever, and 1220 01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,520 Speaker 3: just be like this is my house. Even though it 1221 01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,680 Speaker 3: was completely fake. It was all this kind of fake 1222 01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,520 Speaker 3: confidence and aggression. But it was the way to say, 1223 01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,520 Speaker 3: don't fucking worry about me, I will take care of 1224 01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:21,880 Speaker 3: this kind of thing. It felt, it felt very necessary. 1225 01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,040 Speaker 5: I'm glad that I've seen that changing for the better 1226 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:29,080 Speaker 5: over the year, for sure, But it's about goddamn time 1227 01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,320 Speaker 5: and we're going backwards in enough other ways. 1228 01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:35,760 Speaker 6: So uh yeah, no, I mean, but it's funny because 1229 01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,520 Speaker 6: these are the old cliche of it's like, can you 1230 01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:40,440 Speaker 6: learn that in a class? Can somebody tell you on 1231 01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,560 Speaker 6: week one? Always be confident? It's like, yeah, you kind 1232 01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:45,280 Speaker 6: of have to learn it. You have to learn why 1233 01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:46,240 Speaker 6: you have to do it. 1234 01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:49,840 Speaker 3: You know, It's like yes, and what it means to 1235 01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:53,320 Speaker 3: you because like how you would if you watch Patrick Keane, 1236 01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:56,480 Speaker 3: you'd go, he's confident, but he also kind of seems 1237 01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:59,480 Speaker 3: like he doesn't care. Yeah, it comes out in these 1238 01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:02,520 Speaker 3: different ways, which are funny in themselves because that's what 1239 01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,840 Speaker 3: it's like. That's the authentic part, is like I don't 1240 01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:06,880 Speaker 3: care what you think of me. 1241 01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:09,560 Speaker 2: But then also here's a little of this other thing. 1242 01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:13,120 Speaker 5: That's the one, like confidently pretending you don't care, that's 1243 01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:14,080 Speaker 5: the that's the goal. 1244 01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,800 Speaker 6: It's like they make no mistake for people out there 1245 01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:18,640 Speaker 6: that you can't just be confident. 1246 01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:23,040 Speaker 5: It's not enough. You also have to have a humor. Yeah, yeah, 1247 01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:23,960 Speaker 5: because I've said. 1248 01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:25,560 Speaker 2: To have at least seven solid jokes. 1249 01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:29,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, we've been that that person who's way too. 1250 01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:31,920 Speaker 6: Confident and they have nothing is like, oh come on, 1251 01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:34,040 Speaker 6: oh come on you guys. Look at this guy's looking 1252 01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:36,640 Speaker 6: at me like that. It's like you just didn't say anything. 1253 01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:37,120 Speaker 5: You know. 1254 01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:39,320 Speaker 3: It's like, can I tell you my favorite? And I 1255 01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:41,120 Speaker 3: know I've told the story on this, but. 1256 01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:46,200 Speaker 5: It's been eight years. We just found out this is this. 1257 01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:50,240 Speaker 3: Is my favorite moment of the confidence issue and the 1258 01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:54,160 Speaker 3: me interpreting that is like kind of like aggression or bitchiness, 1259 01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,600 Speaker 3: which is very nineties. I mean that that's what everything 1260 01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,840 Speaker 3: was like back then. But there was this one night, 1261 01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:01,080 Speaker 3: and I believe it was me be on stage after 1262 01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:06,280 Speaker 3: Darren Carter Party Starter and you know, the I'm three 1263 01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:09,160 Speaker 3: jokes in eating it, but I'm telling them im median, 1264 01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:10,440 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, there was no way 1265 01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,720 Speaker 3: I was going to get up there interpret interpret anything 1266 01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:17,520 Speaker 3: is success because he just leveled it, So anything was 1267 01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:21,320 Speaker 3: going to seem worse and bad compared to how great 1268 01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:25,720 Speaker 3: he did. So I doing, you know, like whatever, my 1269 01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,920 Speaker 3: first three jokes are and it's like fart, fart, fart, and. 1270 01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,840 Speaker 2: Then I hear a beep to my left. 1271 01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:35,200 Speaker 3: You know in the improv, you know, people are kind 1272 01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:36,960 Speaker 3: of around you, not just in front of. 1273 01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,040 Speaker 5: You by hold by a pacemaker. I'm guessing. 1274 01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,280 Speaker 3: I turn and I go, oh, I'm sorry you a doctor? 1275 01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:43,480 Speaker 3: Is that your beeber? Do you have to go? 1276 01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:44,480 Speaker 5: Do you have to go? Deliver it? 1277 01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:46,680 Speaker 2: At eighty and I just like went off on this guy. 1278 01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:50,640 Speaker 3: And I literally said like seven sentences like I overdid 1279 01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,040 Speaker 3: it out of this kind of like I'm I'm eating 1280 01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,360 Speaker 3: it and I hate everyone. And then he just held 1281 01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:58,000 Speaker 3: up his wrist and what is my watch? 1282 01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:00,800 Speaker 5: Was so great? 1283 01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:02,840 Speaker 2: It was just I think I did one more joke 1284 01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:03,200 Speaker 2: in them. 1285 01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:05,080 Speaker 3: Left because I was just like, I'm not okay, Like 1286 01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:06,760 Speaker 3: I can't stand up anymore. 1287 01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:09,240 Speaker 2: This is fucking George. And he didn't. 1288 01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,600 Speaker 3: He was the worst part was he wasn't mean about it. 1289 01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:12,800 Speaker 3: He's trying to be nicer. 1290 01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:15,560 Speaker 2: Just my watch. I don't know what to tell you. 1291 01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:19,120 Speaker 5: I can see myself getting taking it further. Well, why 1292 01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:21,840 Speaker 5: would you buy a watch like that? And why would 1293 01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:23,560 Speaker 5: you wear it? Oh God, I'm dying. 1294 01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:26,600 Speaker 2: I'm dying, that's like, literally. 1295 01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:28,880 Speaker 6: When you say that they're not trying to be mean, 1296 01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:31,320 Speaker 6: that's almost the worst. Like, uh, there was a guy, 1297 01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:32,160 Speaker 6: Chuck Bartel. 1298 01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:32,720 Speaker 5: Do you know him. 1299 01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:36,800 Speaker 6: I remember that extremely funny one liner guy like that. 1300 01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:40,360 Speaker 6: Hegburg kind of style and he was up one night, 1301 01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,720 Speaker 6: but he would he was not immune to having bad sets. 1302 01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:44,080 Speaker 6: It was one of those things where like if it 1303 01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,440 Speaker 6: started off wrong, then it all went wrong, you know. 1304 01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:49,360 Speaker 6: But he was so funny. But I remember, right in 1305 01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:51,800 Speaker 6: the middle of a bad late Friday show or whatever, 1306 01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:53,760 Speaker 6: he did a joke and then he did just that 1307 01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:58,480 Speaker 6: little bit of commenting on how bad the response was. 1308 01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:01,120 Speaker 6: He said something like, you know, boy, maybe I'm not 1309 01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:03,560 Speaker 6: as good as this as I thought, or something like that. 1310 01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:08,480 Speaker 6: And this lady in the audience is like she sounded 1311 01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:10,720 Speaker 6: like she might have been sixty five years old, but 1312 01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:11,240 Speaker 6: she's just. 1313 01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:18,440 Speaker 5: Like, well, it's hard. Like that was just like and 1314 01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:20,520 Speaker 5: he's just like, all right, I want to kill myself. 1315 01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:24,960 Speaker 5: This is so great. It's hard. 1316 01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:28,360 Speaker 6: It was like, oh boy, you did not because there's 1317 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,080 Speaker 6: like it's completely sincere. 1318 01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,120 Speaker 5: You know, my god, nobody's trying to be mean. That 1319 01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:38,640 Speaker 5: is the best. I like that. Oh, Henry, you have 1320 01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:42,160 Speaker 5: a dinner to go to and we've Yeah, I want 1321 01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:43,520 Speaker 5: you to be able to get out of here and 1322 01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:49,080 Speaker 5: not disappoint you friends and family. But is it fun there? Yeah? 1323 01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:57,400 Speaker 5: I've been uh yeah, thank you for any questions about Hollywood? Yeah, 1324 01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:02,360 Speaker 5: if I does Losiena go really direction? Does it go? Okay? 1325 01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:05,120 Speaker 2: I just an apartments? 1326 01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:10,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, we're a realtor? Or how much your parking tickets? 1327 01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:13,960 Speaker 5: Will my dreams come true? I love the idea people. 1328 01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:16,360 Speaker 3: It's like jam any question about Hollywood and they literally 1329 01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:19,040 Speaker 3: they immediately assume that it's about the city itself. 1330 01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:24,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly how is money allocated with parks and recreation? 1331 01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,640 Speaker 5: Does that come out of a municipal? Okay? 1332 01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:30,000 Speaker 3: Is there a comptroller for Elliot itself? 1333 01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:33,840 Speaker 5: Comptroller? No one controller, but there's one in every city. 1334 01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:38,680 Speaker 6: How long before because we've become such a dystopian wasteland 1335 01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:42,240 Speaker 6: lately with just like if you go losien again Pico 1336 01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:44,840 Speaker 6: and it's like everything's boarded up, people are wearing masks. 1337 01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:49,920 Speaker 6: There's just people walking around aimlessly. And at what point 1338 01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:54,840 Speaker 6: does like that La La story kind of stereotype changed, 1339 01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:56,840 Speaker 6: Like if you're going to pitch something like, well, I 1340 01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:59,280 Speaker 6: wants this to be sort of an LA stereotype, and 1341 01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:02,920 Speaker 6: it's like, oh really, okay, so just like Red Sky 1342 01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:05,600 Speaker 6: from the Fire and then just sort of like it, 1343 01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:07,920 Speaker 6: like they're picturing more of a blade runner thing or 1344 01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:11,800 Speaker 6: something like that. The whole LA thing seems to be 1345 01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:13,520 Speaker 6: moving away from us right now. 1346 01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:16,160 Speaker 5: I hope it comes back, but it's not. 1347 01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:19,080 Speaker 6: Like the rollerblading and the thong bikini kind of stereotype 1348 01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:20,000 Speaker 6: anymore right now. 1349 01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:23,880 Speaker 5: Although I did just take a masked headshot, a new 1350 01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:28,120 Speaker 5: headshot with a mask, oh yeah, just to the Times. 1351 01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:36,040 Speaker 5: Yeah smart, yeah, thank you. Yeah, I'm smart, confident. I'm 1352 01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:38,480 Speaker 5: gonna I'm gonna end this thing because it's been so great. 1353 01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:40,760 Speaker 5: I can only und it from here or one of 1354 01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,480 Speaker 5: you guys. Thanks, thank you so much. 1355 01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:43,800 Speaker 6: Karen. 1356 01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:44,600 Speaker 5: It's so funny. 1357 01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:47,080 Speaker 6: It's so great to talk to you, to you because 1358 01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:50,880 Speaker 6: you've always been one of my favorites. Yeah you you too, 1359 01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:57,160 Speaker 6: Yeah right, oh absolutely, yeah, yeah, there's a there's a thing. Also, 1360 01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:59,200 Speaker 6: we've had so many parallel experiences. 1361 01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:01,960 Speaker 5: Is amazing. When you're talking about all this stuff, I'm like, wow, yeah, 1362 01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:07,080 Speaker 5: I really think Karen's gonna make it. Thank you, and 1363 01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:09,400 Speaker 5: we're gonna let's go get something neat we're gonna go. 1364 01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,320 Speaker 5: Uh you've been watch the Highwayman. 1365 01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:14,280 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it right now. 1366 01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:18,439 Speaker 6: We patreon dot com slash Highwayman Show and you'll see 1367 01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:21,280 Speaker 6: the teaser on there. And there's a free episode on 1368 01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:23,080 Speaker 6: YouTube called Boots the Clown. 1369 01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:26,000 Speaker 5: Yes, and I just watched it and I loved it 1370 01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:29,080 Speaker 5: so much. And you can see him also as my 1371 01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:34,120 Speaker 5: real life friend Henry Phillips. You've been listening to Do 1372 01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:37,160 Speaker 5: you Need a Ride? D yn are. 1373 01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:41,559 Speaker 1: Nice? 1374 01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:44,479 Speaker 5: I leaving on? 1375 01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:46,719 Speaker 1: You wanna way back? 1376 01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:47,960 Speaker 5: Either way? 1377 01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:53,479 Speaker 1: We want to be there, doesn't matter how much baggage 1378 01:08:53,520 --> 01:09:00,240 Speaker 1: you us time and turman On and Gabe, we want 1379 01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:00,800 Speaker 1: to send you. 1380 01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:05,160 Speaker 2: Off INSTI do you wanna welcome. 1381 01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:05,840 Speaker 5: You back home? 1382 01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:09,080 Speaker 1: Tell us all about it? 1383 01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:10,000 Speaker 3: We scared? 1384 01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:11,040 Speaker 2: He was it fine? 1385 01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:13,640 Speaker 1: Melbourn? 1386 01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:30,880 Speaker 5: Do you need to ride? 1387 01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:34,840 Speaker 2: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride? 1388 01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:38,800 Speaker 1: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride? 1389 01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:41,280 Speaker 5: Do you need to ride? 1390 01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:42,759 Speaker 3: Do you need to ride? 1391 01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:51,599 Speaker 5: Do you need with Karen and Chris