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Speaker 3: By from Patriots Mini Camp.

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Speaker 1: This is Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 3: All right, Welcome to day too of Patriots Mandatory Mini Camp.

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Speaker 3: We are high above the practice feels at Jillette Stadium.

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Speaker 4: It's Fred Kersh, Paul Pirello, Mike you So later to

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Speaker 4: be joined by Tamara Brown and Evan Lazarre, and we're

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Speaker 4: gonna bring you everything we see and hear from Patriots

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Speaker 4: practice today. Uh, probably for the next couple hours or so,

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Speaker 4: as we did yesterday. It's day two and let's get

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Speaker 4: right into it. Guys, after one day of Mandatory Mini Camp.

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Speaker 4: What are your observations?

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Speaker 5: Go ahead, It was a light day. I mean, I

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Speaker 5: don't think there was a ton to you know, really glean.

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Speaker 5: I thought the offense, you don't, made a couple of

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Speaker 5: of different kind of looks at the offense.

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Speaker 6: Which I just you know, when you get into mini camp,

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Speaker 6: you're not really sure how much you're just installing if you're.

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Speaker 5: Kind of in a base kind of offense. Hi, I'm here.

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Speaker 6: So to get back to what I actually said, wondering

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Speaker 6: why I couldn't hear myself, uh light day yesterday, I thought,

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Speaker 6: I thought the defense threw a lot of you know twists,

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Speaker 6: a lot of you know, guys coming and going you're

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Speaker 6: not sure you know some uh you know disguise that

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Speaker 6: they're often you know, known for. Uh. So I thought

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Speaker 6: that stuff was interesting, a couple of nice throws from Mac,

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Speaker 6: but but overall not a highly competitive practice with a

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I would agree with Mike one hundred percent on that.

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Speaker 7: And I thought, you know how Fred, we like to say,

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Speaker 7: we don't know exactly what the goal was for practice

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Speaker 7: every day, you know, especially at this time of year

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Speaker 7: when there's mostly evaluations. I thought yesterday was a day

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Speaker 7: that was more designed to a defense. I thought they,

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Speaker 7: I thought they gave some different looks. At one point

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Speaker 7: that the offense, for the most part, handled some of

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Speaker 7: those looks pretty well. But I thought the defense was

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Speaker 7: a little bit better yesterday. Now, I don't know if

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Speaker 7: that was by design. I don't know if that was

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Speaker 7: would also agree with Mike and that most, if not

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Speaker 4: We even saw one session where Malie Cunningham was giving

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Speaker 4: mobile quarterback. So that was interesting to see. I kind

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Speaker 4: of have a pet peeve that a little rant.

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Speaker 5: I love rants, especially early in the show.

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Speaker 3: Listen.

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Speaker 4: I know that it's called mandatory mini caamp, and when

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Speaker 4: somebody doesn't show up for mandatory minicamp, you want to

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Speaker 4: you know, like who's here, who's not here? Definitely a story.

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Speaker 4: But I hear people saying that the story of minicamp

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Speaker 4: today was attendance. Really name one mandatory minicamp where everybody

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Speaker 3: The Patriots, for any team.

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Speaker 5: I can't give you the specific years, but more often

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Speaker 4: The case most of the guys. But there's always somebody,

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Speaker 4: whether it's injury. In this case, there might.

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Speaker 5: No injuries are here, yeah, but I'm talking about Lawrence

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Speaker 4: a sign of the dysfunction going on in Foxborough. Really

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's part of the story.

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Speaker 7: If if people were taking it as that's a sign

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Speaker 3: You're taking it too far.

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Speaker 2: I heard those exact words.

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Speaker 7: Then that's that's taking one of your shows. Let's take

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Speaker 7: it too far. Now, I would say, well, none of

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Speaker 2: Oh, divorcing himself from the morning.

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Speaker 5: Don't do anything in the morning.

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Speaker 7: You don't do anything but part time contributor in the

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Speaker 3: Those are my shows. But anything pretty much anything shows.

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Speaker 7: But I would say, if you're trying to characterize it

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Speaker 3: I do think that the the Attendant yesterday.

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Speaker 7: It was one of the things that I was I

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Speaker 4: It absolutely should be. Again, it's mandatory mini camps, so

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Speaker 4: who wasn't here? That's a story. But man to say that,

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Speaker 2: It's a sign of dysfunction in Foxborough and that's the

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Speaker 4: I mean, come on, you're not watching anything else if

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Speaker 3: When not fair.

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Speaker 7: Then when they do watch they say things like, you know,

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Speaker 4: But you know, of course we'll get plenty of time

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Speaker 7: I find it interesting that the players, you know, Mac

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Speaker 4: Weather today, it's about sixty nine degrees today, overcast, misty,

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Speaker 4: down pours overnight, but I think we're gonna be good

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Speaker 3: This practice.

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Speaker 2: But I'm feeling, you know, a little missed coming through.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, a little I'd say to you just to go

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, he looks like huge.

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Speaker 3: It's like, what's a great, huge, huge, huge mountain of

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Speaker 7: You can.

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Speaker 3: Have no idea a hulking figure.

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Speaker 4: Hulking figure, Yeah no, But so he's back, and you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm sure if there's any discipline, we will never hear

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Speaker 3: But you know, you you know, if you're.

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Speaker 4: Taking a plane ride and you need to be at

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Speaker 4: case there is something going on, you have time to

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Speaker 5: I think it does.

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Speaker 7: Right, And like like Kevin said, I just didn't see

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Speaker 7: So I think that they felt strongly enough about what

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Speaker 3: We've talked about this before, they kind of recycle backs

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Speaker 6: Just thirty four Quandary Mosley's when I haven't quite seen him,

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Speaker 2: Any notable visitors today and yesterday we had quite a few.

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Speaker 5: There's an event going on down there. I'm not sure

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Speaker 5: And it's it's you know, oh, he's just gonna be

439
00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,760
Speaker 5: there love cornerbacks starting just mark it down.

440
00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,640
Speaker 3: Maybe, But I do also think that there's a little

441
00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,480
Speaker 3: bit of he's got to earn it. R oh yeah,

442
00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,400
Speaker 3: not gonna just hand it to him on his silver platters.

443
00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,080
Speaker 3: So with them, I always am wary of the fact

444
00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,440
Speaker 3: that they they might put him with the twos just

445
00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,560
Speaker 3: to be like, hey, you know, first round pick, you're

446
00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,440
Speaker 3: not You're not all that just yet, you know, go

447
00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,880
Speaker 3: go out there and and and show it to us first,

448
00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,280
Speaker 3: so we'll see. I I've still been with waiting for

449
00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,960
Speaker 3: that Christian Gonzalez moment. We've only seen four practice. I

450
00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:04,760
Speaker 3: know he's only been out out of a couple of them,

451
00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,960
Speaker 3: so I'm not trying to look too much into it.

452
00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,240
Speaker 3: But I'm still waiting for in a team drill, not

453
00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:15,040
Speaker 3: just catching one handed passes in you know, going through

454
00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,920
Speaker 3: the positional drills, but in an actual team drill, making

455
00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,119
Speaker 3: a play on a football. He did have one against

456
00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,040
Speaker 3: DeVante Parker had some tight coverage on him yesterday, so

457
00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,480
Speaker 3: I'm not saying he's ye bad. I just think that

458
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,040
Speaker 3: he hasn't had that signature.

459
00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's why I wrote yesterday, Evan, I wrote a

460
00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,359
Speaker 6: little bit about the rookies that that spoke yesterday, and

461
00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,399
Speaker 6: I mean, I know you'll agree with me, but I mean,

462
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,240
Speaker 6: I feel like Mapu has kind of been the one

463
00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,720
Speaker 6: that's just kind of given me some excitement just with

464
00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:40,919
Speaker 6: how many different spots he's been playing.

465
00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 5: You know, he just he does seem very involved with

466
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 5: that top group in and out.

467
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,040
Speaker 6: You know, there are rotating guys, but it's just it

468
00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,440
Speaker 6: definitely seems like there's something there with him. Nothing against

469
00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,960
Speaker 6: Keon White and Gonzales, but I think with those guys,

470
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,639
Speaker 6: we're still kind of waiting for that, for that moment

471
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 6: with both of them where it was, and I think

472
00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 6: we'll get it with key On White once one on

473
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,000
Speaker 6: one start and then you know, and then he's gonna

474
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,200
Speaker 6: he's gonna go against some poor backup offensive lineman and

475
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 6: probably just bowl him over. So you know, but the

476
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 6: same thing with Gonzales, where's that Wow, how did he

477
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:09,640
Speaker 6: come down with that interception?

478
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,720
Speaker 5: That kind of thing. That's that's what I think we're

479
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:12,640
Speaker 5: all waiting to see with him.

480
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,120
Speaker 2: See uh Mac Brown with Bill O'Brien right now, as

481
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 2: Mac does as stretching.

482
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 5: Mac Brown's here, Mac, I mean Mac Jones.

483
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:27,160
Speaker 4: Oh, Mac Brown. Wow, So you see the teams are stretching.

484
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 4: The players are stretching right now, which sorely Mac Jones. H.

485
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, the calistenic portion of the practice is always the

486
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 7: most riveting.

487
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 2: Freddy, Well, yeah, that's when the players get to be themselves.

488
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 1: You know.

489
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, the large media contingent unleashed.

490
00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 2: Fred We miss Cam Newton with his dances ringers part

491
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 2: of the.

492
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 3: They missed a few team drills they you know, missed

493
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 3: a few few stats there. We'll have to give it

494
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,160
Speaker 3: to him afterwards. Yeah. Probably.

495
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:12,639
Speaker 5: I'm not sure who that is we're trying to.

496
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I never know who shows up with these things.

497
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 7: Someone came up the stairs and I saw Stacy stop

498
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 7: and go over and say hello and shake his hand,

499
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 7: and I figured he must be somebody, but I'm not

500
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 7: sure who it was.

501
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, it looks like the Penn State guys are here again.

502
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, James Franklin that I think that was confirmed by Yeah,

503
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 3: pr that that's who that was.

504
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,119
Speaker 5: I don't get a shot at Josh Ucci right now.

505
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:44,400
Speaker 5: He's a Nature's calling over on the sideline.

506
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 2: R I hear will be going over to Germany with

507
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 2: the nfl PA this summer.

508
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 6: Yea lay a little groundwork, maybe, uh see what the

509
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 6: fields like, see if he can get some sacks over there.

510
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick with Joe Judge.

511
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 6: Right now, I was evan, I was almost gonna say,

512
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 6: and I don't think it is Greg Schiano. But standing

513
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 6: down there at the far end zone, there's two guys

514
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 6: in gray shirts and I don't know if the guy

515
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 6: on the right.

516
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 5: These aren't the greatest binoculars. But at almost for a

517
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 5: second thought looked like, I don't think it's him.

518
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 2: Well wait out now in the end zone. Yeah, much

519
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 2: too young, Yeah, much too young.

520
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, it seemed like a shot.

521
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 6: Well you know, he's too young, much too it shape,

522
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 6: But yeah, it does seem like it's turning into.

523
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,879
Speaker 7: A a little bit of sun's peaking any day. I

524
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 7: don't know my glasses sunny day. The beaches are full,

525
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 7: you know, Amity.

526
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 3: We didn't get an appearance from any of the crafts yesterday.

527
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 3: I did not see.

528
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 7: Now, Yeah, usually did not see. Robert usually comes out

529
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 7: at some point. Yeah, those mini camp practices. Maybe today

530
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 7: with all the guests there. Bill Belichick's press conference this

531
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Speaker 7: morning we get.

532
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 2: One of our listeners said that he he thought that

533
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,360
Speaker 2: Bill was in a very good mood and he's wondering.

534
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 7: Why Evan kid a comment as being the only member

535
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 7: of the UH that was actually in attendance.

536
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 3: Last last couple of times we've spoken to him, he's

537
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 3: been a little chummy, chummy, nice, nice smile at the

538
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 3: podium given given the cameras and the videographers that that

539
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 3: smiling shot, you know right when he's the podium, and

540
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,439
Speaker 3: it almost seems a little a little rehearsed, a little planned.

541
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 3: Did any uh what was the theme today? Any any questions? Uh? Yeah,

542
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 3: you know, I think the bigger things was, uh Jabriel Peppers.

543
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 3: A lot of a lot of praise from Bill uh

544
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 3: for Jail Peppers, just saying that he's, you know, becoming

545
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,120
Speaker 3: more of a leader of that defense versus a guy

546
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 3: that's just trying to figure out where the heck he

547
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 3: should be on a given play, which I think is

548
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 3: a good sign.

549
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 2: Uh.

550
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,919
Speaker 3: Some more positive reviews for for Time Montgomery. Uh, certainly

551
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 3: Bill Murray a little oversation about and you know, him

552
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 3: playing a little bit of more offensive line things like that.

553
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 3: I think in general, though, the feel was a was

554
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 3: he's pretty lax this time of year. You know. I

555
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 3: think during in season press conferences when we get him,

556
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 3: there's so much going on or so, you know, he's

557
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 3: got so much work to do still in the middle

558
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 3: of the week, and I think that's that's sort of

559
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 3: why you get some of the gloomy days with him.

560
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 3: But now, I mean, there's really no no pressure with

561
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 3: middle and things like that. I'd like to hear it.

562
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 6: Mike Rease tweeted out a quote when Andrew Callahan asked

563
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 6: him about Pepper's I've seen particular growth in Mike the

564
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 6: quote Mike has this oh yeah, oh my god.

565
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, totally is a much different player.

566
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I gotta hear that.

567
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 5: One from myself.

568
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 3: I was definitely gushing a little bit about Jabrill Peppers,

569
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 3: and I think that.

570
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 5: He's gush about him, to be honest, He's a guy that.

571
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 3: That's important that Devin's gone. I mean, he's definitely important

572
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 3: for the defense and we'll see what he brings. But

573
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 3: this time of year, I will say, if you ask

574
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 3: Bill about a singular play, not a rookie. If you

575
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 3: ask him about a rookie, it's a general everybody. He

576
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 3: groups it all together as everybody. But if you ask

577
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 3: him about a veteran player specifically, he's gonna gush like

578
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever heard him get up there

579
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 3: and be like, actually, I don't know, you're right, not

580
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 3: a not a great not a great start for player.

581
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 5: You know, I would actually fall off.

582
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 3: My chair if I heard something like that, right, So

583
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 3: I try not to, you know, not to take any

584
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 3: shots to anybody asking the questions, but it's just you're

585
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 3: gonna get the same kind of rehearse.

586
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 4: But you know, the whole thing about his mood, like

587
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 4: even yesterday's answer to the question is everybody there, you know,

588
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 4: it's like, I don't think so Like in the past,

589
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 4: he'd like, I don't take it.

590
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 3: So I almost fell off my chair. When he confirms

591
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 3: that they're in talks with DeAndre Hopkins, I think that that,

592
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 3: out of anything that he said over the last two days,

593
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 3: the fact that he got up there and confirmed that

594
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 3: that Hopkins and him have been in touch is floored me.

595
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 3: Like that that's one that oh, you know, he could

596
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 3: easily fall back on. We don't comment on reports, we

597
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 3: don't talk about we don't discuss rumors like that sort

598
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 3: of thing. But he came out right and said, yeah,

599
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 3: we've we've been talking to Hopkins. We're trying to work

600
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 3: out I read it as the logistics of the visit

601
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 3: and you know, when he's gonna fly in exactly and

602
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 3: and sort of planted around this planet around Hopkins's schedule,

603
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 3: you know, that sort of thing. And it was I

604
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 3: was surprised, Yeah, it was.

605
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 4: It was surprising. He usually never comments on that. And

606
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 4: uh now it's been reported to be a two day

607
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 4: visit tomorrow and Thursday, but we'll see about that. Yeah,

608
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 4: it's it's interesting. I mean, I don't know, you know,

609
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 4: if it's a change of heart or you know, whatever.

610
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 4: But you know, he does seem to be a little

611
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 4: bit more open last couple of days.

612
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 5: Do you think he really didn't know?

613
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 6: I mean, do you think that he's just above the

614
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 6: fray and that's like a scheduling thing, and you know,

615
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know.

616
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 2: I just I do wonder.

617
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 5: I think a lot of us just assume that he

618
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 5: knows everything.

619
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 7: I mean, he's the I don't want I don't think

620
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 7: at the time yesterday, I actually take it at face value. Yeah,

621
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 7: I'm not sure that they knew yesterday exactly when he

622
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 7: was going.

623
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 3: To be right.

624
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 2: They didn't know he was gonna leave Tennessee. Maybe he

625
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 2: didn't leave, you know, and he does not make those arrangements,

626
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 2: that's for sure. Uh so's they're better than good Nancy.

627
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got it. Got a nice, nice chuckle out

628
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 3: of him when when somebody said, oh, well, whytn't you

629
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 3: give us give us Nancy, you know, get getting miss

630
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 3: Nancy available and we can talk to her about the

631
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 3: the travel agent stuff. And he gave it to chuckle.

632
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 3: He did, Yeah, he did. I thought Scott holy had

633
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 3: some nice things. He said.

634
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 5: Nancy Meyer was like family to him on the Patsman

635
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 5: the path.

636
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 3: Nice. Yeah, nice. I mean she's an exceptional woman, some

637
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 3: of them.

638
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 4: Some of Bill's willingness to mention that he is talking

639
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 4: to Hopkins might be the player himself, you know, like

640
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 4: certain players need to be treated certain ways, and right

641
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 4: now Hopkins is you know, uh, he wants to be

642
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 4: courted right now. And if Bill like just you know, categorically,

643
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 4: or didn't deny it, but just wouldn't answer it, maybe

644
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 4: he's afraid Hopkins would look at that as sort of

645
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 4: a slight you know. So maybe Bill takes that into

646
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 4: consideration who the player is.

647
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 2: And you know, what's the harm in me saying that, yeah,

648
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 2: we are talking to show that we're interested.

649
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 6: Especially when you're hoping that Bill Belichick is a bit

650
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 6: of a draw for Hopkins for him to kind of

651
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 6: like play Mickey the Dunce and I don't.

652
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 2: Know, but just to at least confirm you we're interested

653
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 2: in it. Of course we are. He's a good player and.

654
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 6: He's not on another team. I think a lot of

655
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 6: times Bill, you know, goes behind that stuff of you

656
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 6: know what, Like.

657
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 7: He generally says, we're not going to talk about someone

658
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 7: not on my roster. It's not even on someone else's roster.

659
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 7: He would never talk about a guy who's actually under

660
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 7: contract for somebody else.

661
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 4: Right, right, We're not going to talk about players not

662
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 4: on the team, you know. So we'll see, we'll see

663
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 4: what happens with that. I don't know, is your guys

664
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 4: percentage of him coming here changed in the last week.

665
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 5: No, I still feel I still feel pretty good about it.

666
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 3: Like it could could happen.

667
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 6: I mean, and like I said at the top of

668
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 6: the show, just you know, without Thornton and without Juju,

669
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 6: I mean, as much as I want to tell you,

670
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 6: because Sicky and Bill O'Brien are going to make a

671
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 6: difference from last year.

672
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 3: Like you need more than that.

673
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 5: You need more than just to run it back with.

674
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 6: You know, with Parker and Kendrick Bourne and you know, hey,

675
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 6: we're gonna I mean, I assume you're gonna get Juju

676
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 6: back at some point, but I just don't like having

677
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 6: him not out here, like and anytime a guy's not

678
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 6: out here and he's not healthy enough to be.

679
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 5: Picking this up and to get involved in the beginning it, Okay,

680
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 5: raises a red flax.

681
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 3: What we're seeing to the right, the sprints a little bit, yeah,

682
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 3: a little bit.

683
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 7: They have, you know, a handful of cones that they're

684
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 7: going in and out, and then they have these the

685
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 7: small little hurdles that they're going with the high knees

686
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 7: like Evan just said. And it's all the receivers, defensive backs,

687
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 7: you know, like skilled guys.

688
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've never seen this type of running on the

689
00:30:58,400 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 4: field now. I mean, you know, we see it on

690
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 4: the hills after the practice, but I don't remember seeing

691
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 4: things like this, uh, during practice.

692
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 2: We don't have our cameras on it.

693
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 6: But that's okay, yeah, well we got the offensive line

694
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 6: down on the other end, here we go throwing bags.

695
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 2: You see Mac right now? Yeah, get those knees up.

696
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 6: And then it looks like the defensive linemen are working

697
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 6: with some medicine balls there, uh getting down. It looks

698
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 6: like like exploding kind of similar stuff for the uh yeah,

699
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 6: for the for the offensive line, which this looks like.

700
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 7: I thought this was a little I saw them doing

701
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 7: this yesterday. I thought it was a little different too,

702
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 7: the way they were starting that drill.

703
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe they get this from Alabama Phillibrian bringing some new.

704
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 2: Free practice warm ups. Looks heavy those balls, Yeah, heavy balls.

705
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, good for it.

706
00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

707
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 3: So what do we think? What do we think today?

708
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 7: We think for the tempo, what are we predicting a

709
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 7: little bit, a little bit higher temple than yesterday?

710
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 2: I would think so. Yeah, I agree, Yeah, yeah, I

711
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 2: think that today.

712
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 5: Is it going to be high enough to cancel tomorrow work.

713
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 3: Today and then give them tomorrow mines. I think that

714
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 3: you guys are onto something. Yeah. I think they come

715
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 3: out here full as full tilt as you can be

716
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 3: for this time of year, run a bunch of plays

717
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 3: and then see where they're at. At the end of

718
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 3: the day and maybe call.

719
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 4: It well at that point. And again the rules for

720
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 4: mini campus you get twenty four hours. You can split

721
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 4: it up any way you want. So, I know the

722
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 4: players were in at six o'clock yesterday and I think

723
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,239
Speaker 4: they left it around six, so that's twelve So they

724
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 4: only have twelve hours left. So depending on what they

725
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 4: do today, that's all they have left for Wednesday.

726
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I don't know what time they had to

727
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 7: be here, like everybody had to be here, so you know,

728
00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 7: it could be one of those semantic Maybe it was ten,

729
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 7: you know, and they'll get ten today and then maybe

730
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 7: do something team oriented tomorrow, something like that. Yeah, you know,

731
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 7: some kind of team bonding, you know, go to a movie,

732
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 7: go to the zoo. This is a spider Man.

733
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 3: Now we're gonna run around, ring around the road.

734
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, I believe one attend him to our attendance. I

735
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 6: think we fell victim to the Greg Bedard fifty one trap.

736
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 6: I have only seen Ronnie Perkins.

737
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 3: Oh, because I haven't.

738
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 7: I I circled Keon White when you said that he

739
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 7: was here. Now, I was taking you just eric to me.

740
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 7: We got diddarded myself.

741
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 3: So are we sure to Kean, I'm sure that that's Ronnie.

742
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 7: I saw Ronnie. I definitely saw Ronnie Perkins. I did

743
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 7: not see Keon White.

744
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 3: I hadn't. I hadn't circled him until Mike told me, Yeah,

745
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 3: that's that's definitely.

746
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 2: So now they're they're the defensive backs are running a

747
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 2: semicircle around cones. Again, this is new and the arc.

748
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to see if this is also used

749
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 2: in training kid.

750
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's interesting when they when he's kind of little, uh,

751
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 6: you know, while it's running in a semi circle make

752
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 6: you faster.

753
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 3: Well that's a good point, but you like, it's like

754
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 3: you're on the bend of the track the bank, you know,

755
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 3: and you have got to get the inside way. The

756
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 3: way you be the way you are fast, is to

757
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 3: be fast.

758
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 2: Yeah.

759
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 3: Like I always tell you just you want to be fast,

760
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 3: and they always complain that we don't get guess we

761
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 3: have matc Growe on today. You want to be fast.

762
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 5: You've got to be fast.

763
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 2: You know.

764
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 3: Somebody when I was trying to be fast, was like,

765
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 3: think fast. I'm like that that doesn't work. It doesn't work.

766
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,439
Speaker 5: I was really thinking fast, but fast not moving.

767
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 3: I'm just slow.

768
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 2: That's like a John Wooden, right, yeah, think fast, but

769
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 2: don't rush.

770
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 5: Not going uh but yeah, so that is a little

771
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 5: bit of a disappointment there.

772
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 3: If Keon White is in fact not here, it's not

773
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 3: called that yet a little bit.

774
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 6: Maybe we'll see because he did talk yesterday, so you

775
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 6: wonder and he yeah, he was fine, thought he was yeah, yeah,

776
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 6: I thought he was pretty impressive, to be honest with you.

777
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 4: Now we get off that's going around the cones, and

778
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 4: I guess the idea here is to try to keep

779
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 4: it as tight to the cone as possible. But it's again,

780
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 4: I'm you always see new things, and this is the

781
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 4: new thing added to the practice.

782
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 2: We didn't even see this yesterday, right.

783
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 7: I don't remember seeing the semi circle yesterday. I noticed

784
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 7: it when it came out that the cones were all

785
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 7: in formation over there, and I don't remember them seeing

786
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,280
Speaker 7: them do this yesterday.

787
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 5: It'll be noted in blocks.

788
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:26,919
Speaker 3: But you know, you joke Kardona forty nine.

789
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 5: I see I did get Cardona.

790
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 2: You could you can tell what creatures of habit we are.

791
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 2: You know, you see a little running thing and we're

792
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,760
Speaker 2: all like, oh my god, we've never seen this before

793
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 2: look at the players run right.

794
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 6: But I do think it is interesting that this is,

795
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 6: you know, probably something that falls under Moses Cabrera and

796
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 6: you know each off season, I mean stretching, warming up, that's,

797
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 6: you know, kind of straightforward.

798
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 7: I even thought yesterday and I think we were off

799
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,439
Speaker 7: air by the time. The way they cooled down after

800
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 7: practice was a little different. The team created a huge

801
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 7: circle and there were a handful of players inside.

802
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 3: I think Judeon.

803
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 7: There was I think five or six players inside when

804
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 7: they sort of cooled down with some stretching.

805
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was.

806
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, Now I can't find my numbers, where are they?

807
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 7: I think it was Riley Reef, Carl Davis, Calvin Munson,

808
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 7: Matthew Judon, Josh Uce and Christian Barmore with a six

809
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 7: that were inside the circle. I don't know if there's

810
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 7: any significance to the fact that those were the guys

811
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 7: in there, or if it just worked out that way,

812
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 7: But I hadn't seen them sort of cool down like

813
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 7: that in the past. I don't know if you guys

814
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 7: saw that or I thought it looked any different than

815
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 7: any other time. But a lot of times we've seen

816
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 7: them by position group sometimes they'll just they'll meet as

817
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 7: positions and sort of stretch before they leave the field.

818
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 7: I thought that was a little different as a full team.

819
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 3: It's good. It's good this time of year.

820
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, some bonding, make friends, all right. So the running

821
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 2: portion of practice seems to be over, at least for the.

822
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 3: Semi circle Cones.

823
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 6: But I also don't remember like a little interstitial pier.

824
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 6: Usually you stretch, they blow the whistle, and we're off

825
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 6: to practice. It's not like, all right, now we're going

826
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 6: to do some you know, running is there.

827
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 2: And there's still sprinting, defense, sprinting.

828
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 7: This is the warm up portion of practice. They've done

829
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 7: stuff like this. They usually go through the positional drills.

830
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 7: Which is this conditioning really more than anything else.

831
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 6: I do wonder if if it's one of those things

832
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 6: like we I think we mentioned last week of trying

833
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 6: to get a little bit more conditioning at the front

834
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 6: of practice.

835
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 5: I know that that's a trend in some places as well.

836
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like Fred said, I think they're always trying

837
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 3: to find different ways to keep it fresh.

838
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, should the players enjoy They rather running a half

839
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 6: circle around Cones than.

840
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 5: Over on that hill.

841
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 4: But get the guys moving but you know you're not

842
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 4: going to get in shape in three days, so right,

843
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 4: the message will be, Okay, you got to keep doing

844
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 4: this when you go home, you know, because when that

845
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 4: come for training, can that condition run is waiting for it,

846
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,240
Speaker 4: and you're gonna take that conditioning run, you better be ready.

847
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 2: So yeah, they're still they're still running. They're running. See

848
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 2: the quarterback's warming up right now.

849
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say too.

850
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 6: It doesn't seem like Trump Brown is heavily involved in

851
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 6: this practice, and from what I've seen, he is pretty

852
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 6: low key.

853
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 5: I'm not sure I've even seen him.

854
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 6: Take part in it in one of these kind of

855
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 6: warm up jewels yet. But for the most part, he's

856
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 6: got helmet up on his head and he's kind of watching.

857
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 6: So take that for what it's worth. Okay, but yeah,

858
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 6: definitely not seeing key on white here as things get

859
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 6: a little bit more broken up.

860
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 3: So Trump Brown is just an interesting cat. I never

861
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 3: I can never get a read on him, so I

862
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 3: almost just don't read him because he's just Yeah, he's

863
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 3: just an interesting cat.

864
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 5: He's a big inter stink cat, like a main coon can.

865
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 3: Jungle cat. Yeah, interesting big cat.

866
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's the whole thing with him is

867
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 4: his desire. You know, how much does he want? How

868
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 4: much does he really love football? And I think it

869
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 4: goes in and out. I just I think the best

870
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 4: he was was when Scarnekia was here. You know, he

871
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 4: got the most out of him. And Dante's the kind

872
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 4: of guy you want to play for him. You don't

873
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 4: want to disappoint him. And uh, you know, we'll see

874
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 4: if Adrian Clem can have that type of gravitas with

875
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 4: with the alignment, but it's doubtful.

876
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 6: I think if I had to make a bet right

877
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 6: now whether or not Trump Brown will be on the

878
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 6: field week one, I would probably.

879
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 5: Say no, really really, I mean that's just the vibe,

880
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 5: don't you feel like though?

881
00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 3: I just.

882
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 6: So like a lot of guys, especially in that position group,

883
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 6: were not on board with things, and he was certainly,

884
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 6: you know, among one of them who was up and

885
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 6: down all year and inconsistent. And you know, I just

886
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 6: wonder at what point, I mean, Paul has been beating

887
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 6: this drum ever since Truck Brown came back full times.

888
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 5: So but I don't know, I just started to read

889
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 5: the tee.

890
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 7: We's how under guy an unreliable player? Yeah, And I

891
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 7: know that, like, I think the position is very unsettled.

892
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 6: I I.

893
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 2: I know, So is that Trent Brown walking down the

894
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 2: hill right now.

895
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 3: Doing this stuffs?

896
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 2: Somebody is walking down the hill, Yes, it.

897
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 3: Is, so he is.

898
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 5: He's dealing with something.

899
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's well, he's probably not in shape to play. Yeah.

900
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, he hasn't done anything all spring.

901
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 2: So it's interesting.

902
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 4: The reason why I looked that direction was because I

903
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 4: saw Belichick talking with Matt grow and both of them

904
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 4: all of a sudden turned toward that direction. So I

905
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 4: wanted to see what they were looking at, and they

906
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 4: were looking at Trent Brown, and that's what like.

907
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 6: And look, I don't I'm not going to tell you

908
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 6: that that Calvin Anderson or Riley Reef, or or you know,

909
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 6: even Connor McDermott who came in last year, are you

910
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 6: know the long.

911
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 5: Term answers and what you need.

912
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 6: But I think at a certain point this year you

913
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,439
Speaker 6: might just be looking for guys that want to feel,

914
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 6: that really want to be here, that are put in

915
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 6: the effort, that are consistently here. And maybe it's not

916
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 6: all perfect, but you know every snap what you're going

917
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:24,959
Speaker 6: to get from Riley Reef, who you know has been.

918
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 7: To me, Calvin Anderson is the interesting guy because that's

919
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 7: I mean, fifty year. He hasn't played a ton, but

920
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 7: he does have some experience. Might he be a guy

921
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 7: that really benefits from being, you know, thrust into a

922
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 7: bigger role than he's had in the past. And if

923
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 7: he can take one of the spots and then you

924
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 7: can patch it together with the veterans on the other side,

925
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 7: with Reef and McDermott, and that that could make Trent

926
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 7: Brown expendable.

927
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 3: I don't think that.

928
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 7: I think it's a bold take that you have, but

929
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 7: I don't think it's outrageous by any means.

930
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 3: Now.

931
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 5: I think it's close to fifty to fifty right now.

932
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 6: And I just think that in and of itself is

933
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 6: kind of the story of I just at what point

934
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 6: do you say, you know, what.

935
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:02,919
Speaker 5: Huge guy.

936
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 6: When he's on, he is dominating, But we just don't

937
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 6: know when we're going to get it. And what we

938
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 6: need right now is some reliability.

939
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 4: We need reliability and we also need chemistry. We need

940
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 4: a team that wants to play with each other, trusts

941
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 4: each other. You know, you can't have one of your

942
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 4: main stays in the line like, oh, maybe I'll play

943
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 4: this week, maybe I want it's just not a good look.

944
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. I mean you go back to a couple

945
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 3: of years ago and they started Ted Carris over Mike

946
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,280
Speaker 3: on winning and I think that everybody was like, Michael,

947
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 3: who is one of our best young players, what are

948
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 3: we doing? And I think the big reason why it

949
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:38,479
Speaker 3: was just that cohesion of the five man unit, which

950
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 3: one had the most reps together, which one had the

951
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 3: best chemistry, who was on the string together? And they

952
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 3: settled on the fact that that Ted Carris was just

953
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 3: a little bit more glued into what they were doing

954
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 3: at that time. And I just the tackle thing has

955
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 3: always been a worry for me. And if Trent Brown

956
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 3: is now on the fence or not as locked in

957
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 3: as you need him to be, then it becomes an

958
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 3: even bigger concern. I think Bill O'Brien is the type

959
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 3: of coordinator that has the chops to coach around poor tackles.

960
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 3: But it's just not really something that you want to

961
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 3: have to do right.

962
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 6: Well, especially when you've got to get into third and long,

963
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 6: or you know, if they still want to really try

964
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 6: to push the ball down the field, you've got to

965
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 6: have some trust and you know what point do you

966
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 6: look at Calvin Anderson and say, hey, here's a guy

967
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 6: that we initially had in here, that we showed interest

968
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 6: in out of the draft went you know, played last

969
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 6: year in Denver.

970
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 5: He's been here all off season for us.

971
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 6: He's been our you know, basically our every day left

972
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,439
Speaker 6: tackle right through ots in mini camp.

973
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 7: And at what point he's single him out? He's he's

974
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 7: the one sort of unknown out of those three.

975
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 3: And I don't I don't.

976
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 7: Rule out the possibility that, you know, he's ready to

977
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 7: take that step and be a full time starter. I mean,

978
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 7: I it's hard. I mean, you know people are going

979
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 7: to say, well, how does he look?

980
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 5: I have no idea.

981
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 7: You know, the offensive lineman, right, you know, you can't

982
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 7: tell what they're doing in a lot of times, you

983
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 7: can't tell what they're doing when in pads and training camp. Yep,

984
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 7: but you certainly have no gauge whatsoever on a mini

985
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 7: camp with no pads, and you know, see likely what

986
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 7: the lineups look like when when the pads come on

987
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 7: in another month or so.

988
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 4: I go back to Dante and you know, the best

989
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 4: offensive line coach this franchise has ever had, now, Hall

990
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 4: of famer, you know, he said, Continuity is huge for

991
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 4: offensive line. You need you that's what you really ideally want.

992
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 4: It's the same five guys out there all the time.

993
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 3: That's yeah.

994
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 6: I mean that's why usually I kind of give a

995
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 6: little bit of a pass to some inconsistencies on the

996
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 6: offensive line the first month of the season. I just

997
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 6: I think there's always, you know, a game where things

998
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 6: just don't look in sync. But what you always loved

999
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 6: and respected about Dante's guys, you knew they were going

1000
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 6: to get it at some point. And I don't know

1001
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 6: if we have that confidence yet, but I'm certainly excited

1002
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 6: to have Adrian clem an experienced offensive line and played

1003
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:54,479
Speaker 6: in the NFL as an offensive lineman.

1004
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, just taking total control of things

1005
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 5: down there.

1006
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 6: And I mean, as I kind of snarkily say yesterday,

1007
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 6: it's nice not to see, you know, coach having to

1008
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 6: like run back and forth between coach and the offensive line.

1009
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 6: You see them down there doing what they usually do,

1010
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 6: working on on everything.

1011
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 3: That they do.

1012
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 5: So it's uh, we'll see.

1013
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 6: I mean, I just again, though I feel like talk

1014
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 6: about the wide receiver depth issues, you talk about the

1015
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 6: offensive line, just a lot being put on the new

1016
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 6: coaches who have come in to really get things in

1017
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 6: order and make them work.

1018
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 2: Chris weher A t I a n wants to know

1019
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 2: why Deuce is dressed like Maddy p.

1020
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 3: I got that Jude on red sleeves.

1021
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 2: I thought, you know, I got jacket and I got

1022
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 2: the hot jacket.

1023
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 5: You know, trying to dress the part here.

1024
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 3: I don't know. Paul's trying to capture the spirit of

1025
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 3: the thing, right. That's all adding on Calvin Anderson too,

1026
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 3: by far their most athletic tackle that they have on

1027
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 3: the roster. It's one of the things that put him

1028
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 3: on the NFL radar is his pro day at Texas

1029
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,479
Speaker 3: when he came out. So he's by far their best

1030
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 3: athlete and you can see that on film. So that

1031
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 3: that does project nicely to a left tackle spot if

1032
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 3: he can play it consistently. But I think that that's

1033
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 3: one thing that really does stand out with him is

1034
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 3: his initial explosiveness out of his stances range, his ability

1035
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 3: to block on the move. Like, I think he's got

1036
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 3: some of that athleticism. But if that tackle spot ends

1037
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 3: up being a big issue for them, and we're gonna

1038
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 3: go back to the draft, I mean, we and I'm

1039
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 3: not necessarily saying the first round, just any of the rounds.

1040
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 3: You know, we're gonna go back to the draft and say,

1041
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 3: I mean, could one of these tackles have have stepped

1042
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 3: in and played right away that maybe they could have

1043
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 3: had in the second or third round even or whoever.

1044
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 4: I mean, well, Anthony writes, and if you were a bill,

1045
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 4: would you let Brown go and save the cap space,

1046
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,720
Speaker 4: maybe sign Flucker who was in for a workout yesterday

1047
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 4: for a year and use the savings on the cap

1048
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 4: cash to try to lure Hopkins to sign this week.

1049
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,240
Speaker 4: Brown isn't reliable, and if he isn't happy, what incentive

1050
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:48,240
Speaker 4: does he have to stay.

1051
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 2: In shape enough to play and stay healthy.

1052
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I think we're a little too far. I know.

1053
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 6: I look, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna jump on

1054
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 6: and stay cut up. I really don't care about like

1055
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 6: opening cap space with him or anything like. That's fine,

1056
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 6: that's not if it works out. But I mean really,

1057
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 6: for me, it's it's just is he engaged? Is he

1058
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 6: like like if I was the coach, I know at

1059
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 6: some points he's gonna look good. I mean, he looks

1060
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 6: great walking onto the field, like you can't help.

1061
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 2: But be you know, intrigued by his size, and well,

1062
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 2: it's like, how much time are we going to an

1063
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 2: effort we're going to put into getting this guy out.

1064
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 5: Right, he's going to leave the station?

1065
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 3: Is he on board or is he kind of outured?

1066
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 7: I would be concerned with. I mean, d J Fluker,

1067
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 7: I think is an interesting story just because of what's

1068
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 7: going on. But I mean it hard to make the

1069
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 7: case for him being a reliable option at this point

1070
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 7: and he's been out of the league.

1071
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just such a there's such a talent glut

1072
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,720
Speaker 3: right now, I guess is the word for that position

1073
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 3: in the whole league, and these guys that can play,

1074
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 3: that can start for seventeen games. Teams don't just give

1075
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 3: those types of guys away because they're not enough of them.

1076
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 2: So well, the proper word would be drought, right, glut

1077
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 2: is they have a lot too many?

1078
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,720
Speaker 3: Right? Thank you? Okay, thank you journalism.

1079
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 7: Words are hard, but one of the things and I

1080
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 7: sort of take away, you know, Mike, you were talking

1081
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 7: about like sometimes the offensive line play is a little

1082
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 7: spotty at the beginning of the season, and it's why

1083
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 7: you because they don't have the cohesion, and I agree,

1084
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 7: and then I'll take take it to something that Evan

1085
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 7: talked about yesterday, well, like.

1086
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 3: It's also something that can be schemed around a little bit.

1087
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 7: And I think when you realize how many times you say, like, whoa,

1088
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 7: you know, so and so is going to get killed

1089
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 7: back there, you know, and then the teams figure it out,

1090
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 7: Like I think Joe Burrow got sacked like six times

1091
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 7: on opening Day against Pittsburgh last year, and everybody's like,

1092
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 7: all that money they put into the offensive line, it

1093
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 7: didn't work.

1094
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 3: Well, they figure it out, you know, they figured out, they.

1095
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 7: Improve, they scheme around it, and and for the most

1096
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 7: part it's good enough. Yeah, I mean I understand, like

1097
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 7: there are times where it's just so bad you can't win.

1098
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 7: You can't win with that, you know. But I think

1099
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 7: for the most part, you figure it out and the

1100
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 7: guys get better and they learn how to play.

1101
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, like, if you have bad tax in

1102
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 3: not to take another shot, but at with Matt Patricia

1103
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 3: calling the plays and running the offense, then that's a

1104
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 3: real concern. But I do think when you have a

1105
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 3: guy like O'Brien who did coach around bad tackles at times,

1106
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 3: in Houston. I think you'll have the ability to figure

1107
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 3: it out. I just you know, I was mentioning yesterday

1108
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 3: like Miami a couple of years ago at TUA in

1109
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 3: early early stages, and they just basically ran like a

1110
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 3: smoke and mirrors, you know, college RPO style offense where

1111
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 3: everything was in within five to six yards of the

1112
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 3: line of scrimmage. It felt like because they couldn't block it,

1113
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 3: that to hang out and push it down the field,

1114
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 3: and you just wonder, there's are a ton of ways

1115
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 3: to get around it was.

1116
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 2: I'd much prefer not to have to figure it out

1117
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 2: and open up everything and not have to.

1118
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 3: Oh yeah for a weakness.

1119
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 5: You want to have a great player at every position,

1120
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 5: but that's not realistic.

1121
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 4: Well I'm not even saying great, but just competent. You know,

1122
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 4: where it's not a it's not a weakness, it's you know,

1123
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:58,919
Speaker 4: guy can hold his own.

1124
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 3: Now, if you got DeAndre Hopkins out here and you

1125
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 3: have the receivers that they already have and guys are

1126
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 3: getting open quickly, then maybe it's not as big of

1127
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 3: an issue.

1128
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 2: And it doesn't really matter.

1129
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 4: But you know, it's it's a story that we have

1130
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 4: to keep an eye on this whole left tackle right

1131
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 4: tackle thing.

1132
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I would say too, like it's just it's

1133
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 6: it's that both spots are kind of uncertain, you know,

1134
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 6: like if you have some uncertainty on one side, you

1135
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 6: gotta have a guy chip and help the right tackle.

1136
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 6: Like I don't think that's a big deal, but I

1137
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 6: just think not knowing what you have really on the

1138
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 6: left side or the right side right now, that.

1139
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 5: It's it's complicated.

1140
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 6: It's not as easy to you know, help both tackles

1141
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 6: if you're getting inconsistent play, which is I mean, I

1142
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 6: think what we kind of saw a little bit last

1143
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 6: year at times. So yeah, it's uh, it's definitely an

1144
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 6: issue that I'll be very curious when we get to

1145
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 6: training camp day one. You know, is Calvin Anderson still

1146
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 6: out there or is you know, is Trent Brown kind

1147
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 6: of working his way in?

1148
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 7: Mike, you missed a little training camp preview that just

1149
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,919
Speaker 7: went on a little bit. There's a little red zone

1150
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 7: work and there seven on seven and DeVante Parker doing

1151
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,919
Speaker 7: what DeVante Parker does. He went up up over John

1152
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 7: Nothing Jones and you know, had a nice uh fifty

1153
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 7: to fifty ball on a on a fade in the

1154
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 7: back corner of the end zone from Mac. But we'll

1155
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 7: get used to that because that's how we'll open training

1156
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 7: camp and everybody will ask him, why are.

1157
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 3: You doing so much? They did drive the ball down

1158
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 3: there and this I don't know how much the defense

1159
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 3: is no, right, yeah, rightly, But they threw a couple

1160
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 3: of you know, Kasiki caught one, Henry and and uh

1161
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 3: Parker on those kind of fades. Uh Kasiki and Henry's

1162
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 3: was more from like in the slot, and I think

1163
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 3: those we were talking about this yesterday, like what's Max's

1164
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 3: best throws, like those touch throws where he can put

1165
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 3: a little underneath it and and kind of just put

1166
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 3: it in a spot for a guy he does throw

1167
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 3: throw those pretty well.

1168
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 7: It was perfect timing too, because then he had two

1169
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 7: of those right after you had mentioned that, Evan yesterday

1170
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 7: to each of the tight ends.

1171
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know Henry and Kasiki.

1172
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I like watching Kasiki run routes. I mean,

1173
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 3: he's he's really really smooth, and you see some of

1174
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 3: that ability at the top of the route to you know,

1175
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 3: fake and and really burst out of the break and

1176
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 3: they like that. And he he definitely moves like a receiver.

1177
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 3: I mean, there's no doubt that.

1178
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 6: It seems like they're maybe doing two minute drill, no huddle,

1179
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:12,280
Speaker 6: oh off the fingertips, nice little ears. Looked like Mapo

1180
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 6: got maybe a little that could have been but that

1181
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 6: but but that could have been one of those plays

1182
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 6: where you're looking at for those those running backs. Looks

1183
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 6: like he's building a little momentum that balls probably should

1184
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 6: be caught.

1185
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, and that's you know, not an easy play.

1186
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 7: I'm not trying to make it. I wouldn't say it

1187
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 7: was a drop that should be embarrassing, but you know

1188
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,280
Speaker 7: it's a play that you know, James White obviously.

1189
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 3: Makes that catch. That was Zappi throwing. Yeah, it was

1190
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,359
Speaker 3: a good throw too. Uh, you know, one more player too.

1191
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 6: I think we should maybe just like mentioned we've been

1192
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 6: talking so much about Mapoo. It seems like mac Wilson's

1193
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 6: definitely in this linebacker mixed rotation. And I mean it

1194
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 6: wasn't great last year the Baltimore game. He I think

1195
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 6: he struggled a lot when they were trying to have

1196
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 6: him kind of spy lamar. But but it's it seems

1197
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 6: like between Bentley to Viye, Mac Wilson those that's kind

1198
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:02,760
Speaker 6: of your as you used.

1199
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 5: To say, Paul, that interior trio. Three guys for two spots.

1200
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 6: I don't know how Mapu's going to fit into that,

1201
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 6: but as far as the reps and stuff, it seems

1202
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 6: like Mac Wilson's gonna be uh, it's going to be

1203
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 6: part of this linebacker rotation.

1204
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 4: Let's see Alex in Englewood, New Jersey wants to start

1205
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 4: a GoFundMe for Paul to get binoculars.

1206
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 2: Everybody using binocular thirteen dollars.

1207
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 5: I can't afford that.

1208
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.

1209
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 2: I have a lot of tuition to pay a lot

1210
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 2: of bud light to buy a middle life.

1211
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 3: I got, I got a lot.

1212
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 2: I got a lot of responsibility from Yeah, it's still

1213
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 2: going seven on seven here, Yeah yeah, Mac back in Yeah, but.

1214
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 6: Seeing a little Josh Bledsoe too at the safety spot.

1215
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 6: I haven't mentioned his name at all.

1216
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 3: Pepper's I'm in the Star on Kasiki now born in

1217
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 3: park are Out. I love this. The Gonzales with Jack

1218
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 3: Jones on the outside, I feel like that gives them

1219
00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 3: a ton of versatility. Yeah, ah and macus picks.

1220
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 2: Speaking of Jack Jones, he went down the sideline to

1221
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 2: the tight end and Jack Jones cut over the middle, and.

1222
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 3: I think it was intentional, yea, that it may have

1223
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 3: been intentional. So Borne ran a vertical post and then

1224
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 3: Henry tried to wheel it and Jack Jones just came

1225
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:18,800
Speaker 3: off the post and jumped it.

1226
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 7: I think that's Jack Jones's best trade.

1227
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 3: That's that was vintage Jack coming off and jumping.

1228
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 7: I like him better when he does, like the interception

1229
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 7: against Detroit last year, than him jumping every route on

1230
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 7: the guy that he's covering, because I think that's a

1231
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 7: very dangerous technique that he does. It worked against Screen Bay,

1232
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 7: obviously in overtime it didn't work as well.

1233
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, that one reminded me of the pick that he

1234
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:41,760
Speaker 3: had against the Lions.

1235
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 7: The Lions, absolutely that was his play of the season.

1236
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 7: That was a great play that day.

1237
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 3: That was exactly the same type of combination. They tried

1238
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 3: to flood it and he just he just read the quarterback.

1239
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 5: Don't want to Kasiki.

1240
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's just it.

1241
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 5: You know, this is it's kind of the offense we

1242
00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 5: will watch.

1243
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 6: Last year, with the exception of Kasicki, you know, right now,

1244
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 6: it's it's all guys that were kind of around.

1245
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 3: Ken going with the red tights today.

1246
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, underneath his he's wearing the required uniform.

1247
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 3: Thank you, tights. I got it, so we do. You

1248
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 3: didn't get an eighties reference.

1249
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 5: Don't explain that to me.

1250
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 7: I spare you some talks about disrespect, talks about.

1251
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 3: Like I'm some millennial.

1252
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 2: That reminds me.

1253
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 4: I always used to tell my kid, when you're at

1254
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 4: those showcase tournaments, always wear something colorful.

1255
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:33,359
Speaker 6: So that's a great Scouts kidding, next level recruiting, call

1256
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 6: that peacocking, you know, yeah, yeah, show up.

1257
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1258
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 7: We used to make fun of kids in high school,

1259
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 7: like you try off for like these travel teams, like

1260
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 7: you know, eighth grade, ninth grade, and kid would show

1261
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 7: up with.

1262
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 3: His name on his back. Loser, loser.

1263
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 6: Ye, friends, you got be more subtle, right, You just

1264
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 6: need like a like a just something that's different from

1265
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 6: the neon sleeve with the red tights keeps, I keep

1266
00:55:58,239 --> 00:55:59,760
Speaker 6: noticing him, tights.

1267
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 3: What does you get those wonderful toys?

1268
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:08,240
Speaker 2: Drops back, looks downfield, goes short, go short?

1269
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,479
Speaker 5: Is that Pier Pete Strong? Nice adjustment by Pierre Strong.

1270
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 3: Pete Strong a little bit to buy and coverage. Yeah,

1271
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 3: Patriots defense of the back end. They just they're in

1272
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 3: like mid season, they're already spinning the dial. It's like

1273
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 3: yesterday to hide the single high like buzz coverage things

1274
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 3: like that. It's like, guys, it's it's June. Like the

1275
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,479
Speaker 3: offensive chance to I know, well, that's like the question.

1276
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 6: It's like, I mean, I'm sure on one hand, the

1277
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 6: offense enjoys having a challenge and having to decipher the

1278
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 6: Patriots defense post snap. But at the same time, not

1279
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 6: every defense does that, And you're trying to work on

1280
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 6: your own stuff, and do you get too much in

1281
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 6: your own head, you know, trying to adjust to what

1282
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 6: they're doing, and is that screwing up what you're trying to.

1283
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,720
Speaker 4: I remember there was one practice Paul was a training camp.

1284
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 4: This is back in the Brady days where Bellichi actually

1285
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 4: yelled at the defense because they knew what the plays were.

1286
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 4: They were like jumping the plays because they knew what

1287
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 4: was coming, and Belichick's like, knock it off.

1288
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 3: I think that happens even now. I think it.

1289
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 7: Listen, I didn't hear anybody say anything yesterday. Yeah, I

1290
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 7: think it happened on the play that Kyle Duger picked

1291
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 7: off the pass from Mac.

1292
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1293
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 7: I think Max's reaction to me told me that, come on, Kyle,

1294
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 7: you know what we're doing. You know, like you don't

1295
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 7: have to underpat the route.

1296
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, what are we doing, Kyle, Kyle, come on, palms up,

1297
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,439
Speaker 3: hair strong. A couple of catch this year and nice

1298
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,479
Speaker 3: angle right out of the backfield there, James James Robson

1299
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 3: get cut. He's like, hey, time to shine. That throw

1300
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 3: is just money. That dropped it in the buckets between

1301
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 3: two guys.

1302
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 6: He just turned around, turned around, just put his hands

1303
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 6: kind of like on his side and the.

1304
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 3: Ball and he even had to high point that he

1305
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 3: did the Randy Moss thing too.

1306
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 5: He didn't react to.

1307
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 2: It until the ball was just dropped it right in

1308
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 2: the bucket.

1309
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 3: Very good.

1310
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 5: Somewhere.

1311
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 3: Claire Cooper's getting excited every time we bring up Kasiki

1312
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 3: those throws in the offense, like that they need to

1313
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 3: feature that throw. That slot fade Mac through great slot

1314
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 3: fades at Alabama too, Like that was him and Devonte

1315
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 3: Smith and John Metchi Like that's that's his butter right there.

1316
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 3: He can make that throw all day. Bread and butter,

1317
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 3: just his butter, just his butter.

1318
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 5: But it's like butter.

1319
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 3: It's like butter. No bread on that one. That was

1320
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 3: like bread that one into two blue shirts. Yeah, so

1321
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 3: a little news out a at a Buffalo Buffalos A

1322
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 3: Buffalo broke up with Stefon Diggs. Not at mandatory mini

1323
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 3: camp ody function. Sean McDermott is mad about it. Press conference.

1324
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 3: He's already taking shots you can get.

1325
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 7: But that's an issue. I'm sorry, that's an issue.

1326
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 3: He said that.

1327
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:50,959
Speaker 2: Sean, I hope it's an issue.

1328
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 3: Sean McDermott said he's very concerned that Stefan Diggs is

1329
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 3: for six months. Yeah, he has an issue. Yeah, we'll

1330
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 3: take I think he's pissy at the quarterback.

1331
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 2: We'll take him. What, Well, We'll trade your Trent Brown

1332
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 2: for Stefon Diggs straight up.

1333
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 3: No, I'm serious though. I actually think that there's some

1334
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 3: tension there. I'm dead serious because I think he thinks

1335
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 3: that Josh Allen played like like crap in that playoff game.

1336
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 3: And I think he he's been pouting for a while. Yeah,

1337
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 3: I think he wants to go play with his brother.

1338
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 3: And what's he mad about?

1339
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 2: Money?

1340
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 3: Is it just money?

1341
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 7: No, I think he's mad about his targets at oh

1342
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 7: at various times.

1343
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 3: That's I'm not saying he's right. I'm just saying I

1344
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 3: think he's I think he's been.

1345
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 2: As crazy as it sounds. I could see if it

1346
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 2: was money that he was pissy about, but targets not.

1347
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 3: I don't think he's mad at I don't know if

1348
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 3: it's necessarily targets. I think that he's mad that they

1349
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 3: haven't won. Honestly, you know, but I.

1350
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 5: Think he wasn't getting targeted.

1351
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 2: Not coming to practice isn't gonna help that.

1352
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 3: No, I don't think he wants to. I don't think

1353
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 3: he believes in it. Like I think he's starting to

1354
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 3: have some doubt.

1355
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 5: I'm done.

1356
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 2: I love it, love it, yeah, uh not enough good? Bad.

1357
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 3: But I also think he wants to play with the brother.

1358
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 3: I really think that that's that's a big cowboy.

1359
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 5: That's a good spot for him. Quick quick question, since

1360
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 5: even broke the ice on other teams, I just I

1361
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 5: couldn't help.

1362
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 3: But see question Kansas City's receiving core.

1363
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 5: What do you guys feel about that?

1364
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 6: Like, like, I mean, we talked so long about like

1365
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 6: you're wasting Brady's window. Uh, you know, and he certainly

1366
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 6: made plenty of work, but I just look at like,

1367
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 6: you know, Marquez Valdez, Scantling, Rashid Rice who is sky Moore?

1368
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 5: Uh and and Cadarius Tony.

1369
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 3: That's their top four. Well, how do you feel about that?

1370
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 5: Like if you're if you're a.

1371
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 7: Chiefs fan, But I think I think Valdez, Scantling, and

1372
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 7: Tony are very talented.

1373
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. Interesting, And you left out Kelsey?

1374
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 5: Well, of course, of course, I mean he's the key piece.

1375
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 3: But you know it's like, I mean he goes down

1376
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 3: to fall apart last year.

1377
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 5: Homes they'd be in trouble.

1378
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 6: It's just it's an interesting comparison because I feel like

1379
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 6: it's kind of similar, like, yeah, they have some talent there,

1380
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 6: but not really anything proven. You know, of course Kelsey

1381
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 6: money in the bank for them, But you know what

1382
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 6: point if that he gets dinged up one year, you know,

1383
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 6: how does it look curious?

1384
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1385
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 7: Now, to me, the wild card there is Tony. He's

1386
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 7: a first round pick, hasn't really panned out. But I

1387
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 7: thought he went there last year and gave him some juice.

1388
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 7: I thought there was some plays there that he made

1389
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 7: for them down the stretch when he's healthy. I think

1390
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 7: that's the problem with him is he hasn't been able

1391
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 7: to consistently play five games in a row. Yeah, I

1392
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 7: mean we like Sky Moore, right, Sky could be a player.

1393
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:28,959
Speaker 5: About but I think he's got some talent.

1394
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 3: It reminds me of like you know the thirteen Patriots,

1395
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 3: where it's like you have Patrick Mahomes, Right, so you're

1396
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 3: probably gonna win twelve games just because you have Patrick Mahomes.

1397
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 3: And it might not be the ceiling that you are

1398
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 3: the actually really it's more the floor, right. It might

1399
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 3: not be the floor that you necessarily want in a

1400
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 3: championship window, but I mean they're gonna be right in

1401
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 3: the mixer garden less side of.

1402
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 2: That young Bailey Zappi struggling.

1403
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 3: And yeah, I don't think he had a great set there.

1404
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 4: Some of it passed way behind the receiver, a short

1405
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 4: pass and then he was way off the mark on

1406
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 4: the sideline pass.

1407
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 5: Looked like a misfire.

1408
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, hanging his head down a little bit.

1409
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 6: All right, we get a bit special team sir. Yeah, yeah,

1410
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 6: it seems like it's going.

1411
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 2: Seems like the we've got two minutes, we've got to

1412
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 2: make the most out of it.

1413
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 3: Come on.

1414
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 6: The two lines of him just kind of doing their

1415
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 6: own thing. Uh, seems like the line offensive line. Maybe

1416
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 6: working on.

1417
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 3: Some screen pass sets getting out.

1418
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 5: I don't know, but I haven't seen any of those

1419
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 5: guys yet. It's a lot of punction. Like Barringer, I

1420
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 5: haven't seen him.

1421
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 6: That was interesting yesterday I pointed out he had the

1422
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 6: shield on yesterday he didn't have his glasses. They asked

1423
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 6: him about it in the press conversas, Oh, yeah, we're

1424
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 6: looking through some stuff. He was kind of close to

1425
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 6: the vest on the reason for you know, I guess he's.

1426
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 5: Maybe trying to figure out between.

1427
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 7: The rexpecs or the Yeah, I think he's probably trying

1428
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 7: to figure out they.

1429
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 2: Got those contacts that are implanted. Now you don't even

1430
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 2: need Yeah.

1431
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 6: I've had contacts to seventh grade. Really, I don't think

1432
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 6: I could get him and planted.

1433
01:02:58,040 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 5: They got him in the eleventh grade.

1434
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's paint.

1435
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 5: It's the way life, the pain man.

1436
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 3: That's another thing.

1437
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 7: That's another reason why I can't afford binoculars, is your eyes,

1438
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 7: My eyes cost too much money.

1439
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 6: Well, what if you just made your contra really zoomy

1440
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 6: and then you got to kill two birds with one stone,

1441
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 6: You know what? That makes get some contacts that are

1442
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 6: really zoomy. You know, Yeah, maybe if I could just

1443
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 6: adjust them. They should probably try to invent those pull

1444
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 6: your ears.

1445
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 4: A lot of people calling in saying I should just

1446
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 4: let you expense binoculars. I mean, if it's going to

1447
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 4: improve your writing, I'm all for.

1448
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 7: I am not gonna do the binoculars. I find them

1449
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 7: to be kind of cumbersome to take with me all

1450
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 7: the time. I forget them half the time.

1451
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 2: Said, people that use binoculars are heardos.

1452
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 3: A little bit.

1453
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 5: Really, there's a little bit of that.

1454
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 2: So I want to see so maharto.

1455
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,439
Speaker 3: I guess, Yeah, I guess I'm because I'm constantly looking

1456
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 3: through the All you want to see is who somebody is.

1457
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't see it without the binoculars.

1458
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's not like you can't see the play

1459
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 5: without the binocia.

1460
01:03:57,720 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 2: I know, but I'd like to see who's doing it.

1461
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 5: And I just asked you guys, like, who is that?

1462
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 3: Just seven nice? You know? Evan says, I was sick.

1463
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 3: I got a training pat camp backpack right where I

1464
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 3: got all all the materials. You got some binoculars, you

1465
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 3: got some blocks, you got a rain poncho just in

1466
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 3: case it comes out of nowhere. Pens. Uh.

1467
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 7: The pens is something I was taught very early in

1468
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 7: my always have an extra pant Oh.

1469
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and batteries for your recorder.

1470
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 4: But Bob and Wilmington good time for this special team,

1471
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 4: so it's a good time for this question.

1472
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 2: Is there any news regarding new uniforms?

1473
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 4: The blue on blue home colors make the players look

1474
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 4: like they're wearing pajamas. Adding a red jersey or red

1475
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 4: pants seem like a perfect match. Watching Mac and the

1476
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 4: other guys wearing red, no contexts look better. When will

1477
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 4: the Patriots be eligible for another uniform change?

1478
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 3: Fred, I don't know.

1479
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 2: You don't know, but we did talk about it was

1480
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 2: funny we were talking about that.

1481
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 4: I think they need to get rid of the silver

1482
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 4: helmets and go to white with the new logo. I

1483
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 4: think that would be sharp. And I think you go

1484
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 4: with with white pants blue and white red on white.

1485
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 4: I think that would be that's sharp. Get rid of

1486
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 4: the gray pants with the silver helmet. They don't match anyway,

1487
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:14,479
Speaker 4: so let's go to white. That's just my two cents

1488
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 4: for the uniforms.

1489
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 5: I know I'm just reading about.

1490
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 6: This is one tweet I'm saying, Well, somebody said the

1491
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 6: Bills gave Steffan Digs more than sixteen million on a

1492
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 6: bonus three months ago. His dead cap number is monstrous.

1493
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 6: They can't trade him.

1494
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, he's he's stuck so and he's already getting paid.

1495
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 5: So I really is bitchy. It's not money, it's he's

1496
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 5: being bitchy.

1497
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 3: Right, but it's but how do you how do you

1498
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 3: amend that fence?

1499
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 7: I guess if you're them right, I mean when when

1500
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 7: he realizes that he can't get paid if he doesn't come,

1501
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 7: he comes.

1502
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 5: That's funny.

1503
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 3: No, I don't think it couldn't happen to a better guy.

1504
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 3: I don't think his long term I always hate Steffan

1505
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 3: Digs though that's my thing term.

1506
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 7: I don't think it's great for him in Buffalo, but

1507
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 7: I don't really think it'll have much of an impact.

1508
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 3: I think that there was I told I mentioned it

1509
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 3: the other day. I don't know what show we were

1510
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 3: doing about the about the girlfriend, and I was like

1511
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 3: kind of tongue in cheek about that. But there was

1512
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 3: some stuff behind the scenes heading into that Bengals playoff

1513
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 3: game that was not right with the whole operation there

1514
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 3: in Buffalo, and I think that that's why you saw

1515
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 3: the Stefan Diggs tirade after.

1516
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 7: The game was because they didn't think he was prepared.

1517
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 3: They weren't bought in like they weren't they weren't all

1518
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 3: in on it. Yeah, I really think drops snap on

1519
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 3: that punt. Yeah, not ideal.

1520
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 4: Well, I mean it was a it was a kind

1521
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 4: of weird year for the Bills last year, you know,

1522
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 4: with the Hamlin thing and all that.

1523
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 3: I think, I mean, are you firing Evan though?

1524
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 5: The breakup, Josh Allen's breakup was it was a piece

1525
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 5: of that puzzle.

1526
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 3: That that's what. Look, I have no information on this whatsoever.

1527
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 3: I just read Buffalo people that have information on these

1528
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 3: type and that if you turn on you know, Buffalo

1529
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:55,520
Speaker 3: Sports Radio, you go to ninety eighty five in Buffalo,

1530
01:06:56,080 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 3: that that was a topic the conversations. Those are shows

1531
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 3: in Buffalo. Buffalo. They had me on every once in

1532
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 3: a while. It's great. Yeah, they they definitely talked about

1533
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 3: some off the field, you know, personal matters with Josh

1534
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 3: Allen at that time of the year and uh, with

1535
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 3: with his personal life, and it looked like a player

1536
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 3: that wasn't exactly locked down.

1537
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 4: We all, we all, we all agree that Josh Allen

1538
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 4: is an amazing quarterbacks.

1539
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 2: Is he a smart guy? Is he smart?

1540
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 7: Don't Yeah, you can't make the leaps and bounds improvements

1541
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 7: that he did without being a smart guy. I mean

1542
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 7: that's just my opinion from Afar. Well, it's like Evan said, like,

1543
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 7: I don't know, we don't talk to these guys. Well, Evan,

1544
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 7: Evan has had a chance to talk.

1545
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 5: Josh expressed his love. Uh so, so Diggs was just like, hey, man,

1546
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 5: suck it up like the girl dumpy.

1547
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 3: Let's go.

1548
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 5: We gotta win a super Bowl.

1549
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:51,959
Speaker 7: And Josh was like, understand if if what Evan's talking about,

1550
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 7: we're getting some of those looks with a different quarterback.

1551
01:07:54,720 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 7: By the way that we talked about yesterday, the Evan's

1552
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 7: talking about, I could see like Stefan Dick saying like

1553
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 7: your it's not right man, You're you're you're not ready

1554
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 7: for the game, like you know, you let.

1555
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 5: Us all that. I could understand that causing some some

1556
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 5: of a rift.

1557
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, and he's an outspoken guy, like I think so

1558
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 7: you know, you guys are hard on him as a person,

1559
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 7: but he's an outspoken guy. And those receivers when they

1560
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 7: like they're all the same, right, from the same cloth.

1561
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 3: They're all divas well.

1562
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 6: The good news is this dating an actress that's usually

1563
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:28,520
Speaker 6: pretty smooth sailing, you know, generally.

1564
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:33,639
Speaker 3: Eliminates Yeah, no drama with the actresses. Those eliminated drama work.

1565
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 7: But Tony Braxton called and said, just looking to wreck

1566
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:37,879
Speaker 7: another franchise.

1567
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 3: Diggs did some interview I don't know if it was

1568
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:42,679
Speaker 3: it was right after the season or on a podcast

1569
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 3: or something like that where he just talked about Buffalo's

1570
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 3: championship window and the fact that they right now that

1571
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 3: hit with his he's thirty thirty one years old and

1572
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 3: he's not getting any younger, and they start of have

1573
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:58,720
Speaker 3: this this couple of year period right now to maximize

1574
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 3: the championship window. So it's not I don't think it's

1575
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 3: money like Paul has been saying, because he's getting paid

1576
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 3: and he's in on a good team, so he's buffaloed out.

1577
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 3: I think he's just agitated by the lack of urgency.

1578
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 3: He could be right too.

1579
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:15,680
Speaker 7: I mean I think he's wrong, but he could be

1580
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 7: right in just saying like like the Celtics, right, like

1581
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 7: these guys are wonderfully talented, but it's never gonna happen.

1582
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 3: Here very similar.

1583
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 7: Maybe maybe that's what they're feeling. And I know that

1584
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 7: people have used that comparison, you know, the Celtics to

1585
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 7: the Bills. I personally don't ever remember the Bills being favored, uh,

1586
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 7: you know in the AFC Championship game, the way the

1587
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 7: Celtics are routinely playing a vastly inferior team, the way

1588
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:39,959
Speaker 7: the Celtics always seem to do every playoff series.

1589
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:40,559
Speaker 5: That goes seven games.

1590
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:44,599
Speaker 7: Really about the Celtic shots. But but I do think

1591
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:47,599
Speaker 7: that maybe Stefan Diggs looks at it that way. Yeah,

1592
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 7: you know, again, I think he's wrong because to me,

1593
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 7: if I was, if you're a competitor, you figure out

1594
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 7: a way to get over the hump. You don't figure

1595
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:56,599
Speaker 7: out a way to bitch about everything and say nothing's

1596
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 7: my fault, it's all their fault.

1597
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 3: And that seems to be what he's doing.

1598
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 4: But yeah, I just don't understand how not showing up

1599
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 4: for practice is going to help that situation. Be a leader,

1600
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 4: Get out there and yell at Josh Allen and yell

1601
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 4: at your coaches.

1602
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:11,640
Speaker 3: I'd rather see you do that than not. Sure he

1603
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 3: did plenty of that on the sideline.

1604
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:15,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think they really need Kinkaid to be a

1605
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 6: player for them to, you know, just take some of

1606
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 6: the pressure off of that.

1607
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 3: You know.

1608
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:23,759
Speaker 7: They're like, listen, they'd be very good if Stefan Diggs

1609
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 7: wasn't there. But they're not a contender without Diggs in

1610
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 7: my opinion. I mean last year they really weren't a

1611
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 7: contender with them.

1612
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:32,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, God knows.

1613
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 5: The Patriots haven't been able to figure him out.

1614
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 3: I just love it. Boom, I just love it.

1615
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 5: Poo boom.

1616
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:39,639
Speaker 2: They get the paste up there and they just can't

1617
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 2: get it. They just can't get it off.

1618
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 3: What are your is Coln Cower one of your guys,

1619
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 3: Paul that Jewels? Ye might have a Jewels sighting.

1620
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 7: I think that it looks like him anyway, but I

1621
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 7: can't tell Edelman. I think he might have heard that

1622
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 7: Cunningham referred to himself as a.

1623
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:56,720
Speaker 6: Better yeahs I'm here where where we are? We right

1624
01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 6: here at the corner standing with that Christ Mattis.

1625
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 5: I think maybe, oh.

1626
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's settlement, little man, that's settlement. Bumps. I hope

1627
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 3: he uh he says hello, Jules to be in town. Yeah,

1628
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:14,840
Speaker 3: and I saw.

1629
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:16,720
Speaker 5: I think inside the NFL is moving to.

1630
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 3: Like U P N or something.

1631
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 5: They're mov into some weird channel c W, c W.

1632
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 3: Sorry. Inside the NFL, that's on. Yeah, it's like showtime.

1633
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 3: It's going to be on the W.

1634
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 2: Is that good or bad? Because now everyone I think

1635
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 2: you don't have to have showtime.

1636
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 5: I think it's good.

1637
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 6: I I mean, I know it's changed a lot over

1638
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:40,520
Speaker 6: the years, but growing up for me, inside the NFL.

1639
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:41,680
Speaker 5: With who was it?

1640
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 6: It was.

1641
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 3: I that was?

1642
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 5: That was then watched TV.

1643
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:53,559
Speaker 7: For me, I don't watch any of those shows anymore.

1644
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 7: I used to watch them when when not well you

1645
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 7: don't like football, Paul, those shows you don't like the NFL,

1646
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 7: then why don't you? I love because to me it's

1647
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 7: it was the nostalgia.

1648
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 5: I loved it. Jewels just signed an Edelman jersey kid

1649
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 5: getting the fist bump.

1650
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 3: That's great, that's great, glad they let the kids run

1651
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 3: down there, and that's all about the kids. About the kids.

1652
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, you know, of course you got an Edelman

1653
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 6: the kid like you know, oh my god, so got

1654
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 6: an Edlman jersey was a Chrystal goodseus like just where

1655
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:19,840
Speaker 6: a buddy will be?

1656
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 5: Then then all of a sudden Edem's standing right.

1657
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 2: In front of you.

1658
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 3: I have no idea what you're talking about.

1659
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:26,559
Speaker 5: You're not a parent, Evan, your dog doesn't wear jerseys?

1660
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:29,720
Speaker 3: No, my god, thank god?

1661
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 5: Should we just went up a number of notches in

1662
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 5: my book?

1663
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 2: Even Let me see if we can get Edelman up here.

1664
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 3: Let me see, uh, if we can get him up here?

1665
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 3: Do that for why not, Jewels? That's less time for

1666
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 3: us to have this dead air right have so much

1667
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 3: to talk about. Dig's talking. We're doing some run stuff

1668
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:55,640
Speaker 3: right now, and I I wonder, you know, there's so

1669
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 3: much talk about are they going to go back to

1670
01:12:58,040 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 3: being a gap scheme? Are they going to go back

1671
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 3: to running downhill and all that kind of stuff, And

1672
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 3: right now they're they're not exactly doing that. I wouldn't

1673
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 3: say this is like full Kyle Shanahan outside zone either,

1674
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:13,559
Speaker 3: but they're doing some misdirection stuff there. They are getting

1675
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 3: out on the edge a little bit though, and trying

1676
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:17,760
Speaker 3: trying to threaten the edge. But I just wonder how

1677
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 3: much of this right now is is just well, we

1678
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 3: don't have pads on, so we're not We're not gonna

1679
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 3: really be running running gap and encounter right now without

1680
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 3: being able to really contact anybody, but she talk about

1681
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just another readoption here on this field.

1682
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 6: Like, I mean, it's just it's very significant to me

1683
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 6: that they're practice practicing this both days of mini camp now, Like, yeah, I.

1684
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 3: Can't I can't remember them doing it this much in

1685
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 3: nine on seven like this, uh, this time of year.

1686
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:47,240
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure they did this type of stuff

1687
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 3: when they were game planning for specific you know, Mars

1688
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 3: come to town. You're you're doing it on a Wednesday.

1689
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 6: But it just shows this has become a part of

1690
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:55,680
Speaker 6: the league and like you just you have to be

1691
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:57,640
Speaker 6: prepared for this, no matter what your schedule looks like

1692
01:13:57,760 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 6: or what quarterback is on the docket.

1693
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:01,639
Speaker 5: You have to know how to defend this stuff.

1694
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:04,280
Speaker 6: But it's just, you know, it's one of those things

1695
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:06,799
Speaker 6: where you feel like you're their recurring themes to seasons,

1696
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 6: and I felt like last year that was one of them,

1697
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 6: and it was just like man again, like you know,

1698
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 6: Lamar second half just ran all over them, justin fields.

1699
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 6: Never even really did any of this stuff until that game,

1700
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 6: and then all of a sudden, they win their only

1701
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 6: road game of the whole year, the last game of

1702
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:24,600
Speaker 6: the season that they won you know, on the on

1703
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:25,480
Speaker 6: the legs.

1704
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 3: Of Justin Field. So it's I don't always say it's encouraging,

1705
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 3: but it's at.

1706
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:31,519
Speaker 5: Least you know they're trying to figure out how to

1707
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 5: decipher all that stuff right now.

1708
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 3: I think it's good. I mean, they definitely have the

1709
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 3: quarterback or whatever you want to call Malik Sunningham. They

1710
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:41,599
Speaker 3: have the person to do it very subtle, very subtle.

1711
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 3: So I think that that ends good.

1712
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 7: And I know, don't dismiss and there's a couple of

1713
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:47,720
Speaker 7: things I want to talk about with this, but don't

1714
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:49,519
Speaker 7: dismiss the fact that mcsloley's taking a lot.

1715
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 3: Of these steps too. Yep, and he can do that stuff.

1716
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 7: There was something yesterday that kind of stuck out to

1717
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 7: me in the transcript. Evan, you were in the press conference,

1718
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:58,439
Speaker 7: so you kind of saw how it went. There were

1719
01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 7: a couple of questions about Mac and Bailey Zappy, their

1720
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:04,560
Speaker 7: relationship and how they feed, and I think there was

1721
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 7: a follow up question and Bill in the middle of

1722
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 7: the second answer injected trace McSorley, which I think was.

1723
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:14,599
Speaker 5: Trying to in his way.

1724
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 7: Again, I didn't hear it to hear context, but to

1725
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:19,840
Speaker 7: me it was kind of an effort to say, like,

1726
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:21,920
Speaker 7: don't forget we have a third quarterback on the roster.

1727
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 7: Don't dismiss this guy. And I just wonder if you know,

1728
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 7: with Cunningham saying that he's strictly a wide receiver and

1729
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 7: him bringing up mc sorely in a question about Zappi

1730
01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 7: and Jones, I just wonder if there's a little bit

1731
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 7: more to that than we think, because I have sort

1732
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 7: of written him off McSorley right now. Yeah, I wonder

1733
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 7: if they haven't.

1734
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 6: Right, because I mean, how much can Cunningham do? I mean,

1735
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 6: it's nice that he that he could run, but you know,

1736
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 6: do you really need a guy that I mean, if you.

1737
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:55,120
Speaker 7: Honestly want him to try to be a wide receiver,

1738
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 7: how much of the week do you want him doing

1739
01:15:58,479 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 7: read option stuff?

1740
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:02,759
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think the question with with Cunningham is always

1741
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 3: going to be how good does he look in those

1742
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 3: preseason games? And I even at the joint practices to

1743
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 3: do a degree with with Green Bay and in Tennessee,

1744
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:15,360
Speaker 3: because he, to me is an ideal scout team practice

1745
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 3: squad guy like.

1746
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 7: That would be great to see in those Green Bay

1747
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 7: and Tennessee practices. Evan, does he get do they run

1748
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 7: these kinds of place, right, yeah, you know with him

1749
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 7: as quarterback, right because I think right now he's going

1750
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 7: to be a wide receiver. But I wonder if they

1751
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 7: have some sort of package for him that they they

1752
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 7: want to see how it looks against Green Bay intent.

1753
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 6: I would just say, Paul I was, you know, when

1754
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 6: when they first signed him. I went and you know,

1755
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 6: watched a bunch of his stuff and I was really

1756
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 6: intrigued because it looked like he really had a special

1757
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:43,599
Speaker 6: second gear.

1758
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 5: And I haven't seen that yet. I haven't seen.

1759
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:47,680
Speaker 3: I mean, he's fast, but I haven't seen like he

1760
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 3: he's pretty question. I mean, he's a he's a mid

1761
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:52,640
Speaker 3: four to fives guy at the forty. It's not like

1762
01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 3: he ran like a four to three. But he can

1763
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:57,639
Speaker 3: dance like, you know, like he's got this like really

1764
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 3: light like running style where he just kind of scampers

1765
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 3: around a little bit. I oh, time, Montgomery must be

1766
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 3: the sickest man in America. I don't know who happened

1767
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:11,560
Speaker 3: he dropped. He's a little you know, I don't know.

1768
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:13,600
Speaker 3: I don't know who I would compare his running style to.

1769
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:16,760
Speaker 3: It's it's not it's not quite Lamar. I don't think

1770
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:19,639
Speaker 3: he's got that explosiveness in the open field like Lamar does,

1771
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 3: but he has that like ability to just like avoid

1772
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 3: contact like Lamar does, where he just kind of dances

1773
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 3: in and out of tackles and then like tiptoes his

1774
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 3: way out of bounds, so he's not taking a big hit.

1775
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 3: Or what did Lamar? What did Lamar run? Do you remember?

1776
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 3: He didn't run? No, he's never run a forty, he said,

1777
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:36,719
Speaker 3: you know, watch the tape.

1778
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:38,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I just be curious.

1779
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 6: I mean, some of those guys, like it's not surprising

1780
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 6: you said he ran a four or five, but it's

1781
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 6: just some of these players have a second year that

1782
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 6: you know, I don't know what their time speed is like,

1783
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 6: but when they're playing football and in the midst of

1784
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 6: the game, it's just when he's.

1785
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 3: Jack Shones again, it's time on trace mcsory though. Yeah.

1786
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 4: So I don't know if you guys mentioned it, but

1787
01:17:57,040 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 4: what Cunningham is running here, he's doing against the Pace

1788
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 4: Trids first defense that was, and the Patriots first offense

1789
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 4: obviously is is against backups right now, and they're working

1790
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 4: a lot of their running game.

1791
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 5: Yeah you got Zappi in now.

1792
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:24,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, Edelman making his way up the sideline with Slater

1793
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:25,040
Speaker 2: right now.

1794
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:28,599
Speaker 3: So this is Zappi and he's with the regulars right now.

1795
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 7: I mean, I think he's gotten more reps today than

1796
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:34,679
Speaker 7: I remember him in any of the other practices we've seen.

1797
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:36,720
Speaker 3: But I don't think he's looked as good to see

1798
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:40,640
Speaker 3: us another practice. Yeah, I've also noticed that in this practice.

1799
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:44,639
Speaker 3: Well now he's walking away, but macat no a little

1800
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 3: bit more with his teammates in this one a little bit.

1801
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 7: Maybe maybe he was like saying, oh, I probably shouldn't

1802
01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:52,400
Speaker 7: do that. Everybody asked him about it.

1803
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 3: I think when he got asked about it yesterday, it

1804
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 3: definitely could have been like, oh, they're noticing this, Like

1805
01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 3: maybe I need to.

1806
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 7: When I'm treating the rest of the team with just

1807
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 7: stand probably should hide it a little bit.

1808
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:03,680
Speaker 6: I mean, I got a I mean, Butard was the

1809
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:05,200
Speaker 6: first one to kind of write about this stuff, and

1810
01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:07,720
Speaker 6: I hadn't really noticed it through OTAs.

1811
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 3: That's because we actually watched it, But yesterday it was.

1812
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 6: It was It's definitely noticeable how he was, uh, you know,

1813
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 6: just trying to stay isolated. And I mean I hope

1814
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 6: that that's you know, just a mac thing, and that's

1815
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 6: what he needs to do to kind of lock in.

1816
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:23,680
Speaker 6: But you know, admittedly it's it is a little bit

1817
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:26,680
Speaker 6: strange just to you know, see him kind of buy

1818
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:27,799
Speaker 6: himself most of the practice.

1819
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:31,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's his that's his routine. Now, that's what he

1820
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:33,599
Speaker 2: does going through those mental reps.

1821
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 3: I did buy the explanation a little bit. I just

1822
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:38,640
Speaker 3: think that I did. There's he can go through the

1823
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 3: mental reps ten yards away from everybody instead of forty,

1824
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 3: right like, because it just looks it's not even looking

1825
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:47,360
Speaker 3: right like. I don't even care. It just it just

1826
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 3: makes the aesthetic of it with the media out here

1827
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 3: a little bit. Right.

1828
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:52,720
Speaker 6: He's just not even watching the play, you know, And

1829
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 6: you wonder, isn't there something to glean from not necessarily

1830
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 6: watching Bailey Zappy, but watching your teammates.

1831
01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 2: You see what they're doing and then did that look good?

1832
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 2: Did that not look good?

1833
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:03,840
Speaker 3: Why? Right? And what read?

1834
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:04,400
Speaker 5: Did he take?

1835
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 2: What?

1836
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:08,720
Speaker 5: You know, where should the ball have been? I'm sure

1837
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:09,639
Speaker 5: they watched all this stuff.

1838
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 4: But yeah, that's and that is one of the big

1839
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:17,400
Speaker 4: differences between these practices in mini camp and OTAs is

1840
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 4: they take the time after practice to look at the

1841
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 4: film of the practice.

1842
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 2: You know, that's something that you add as you go

1843
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 2: through the summer.

1844
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was That was something I learned talking to

1845
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 6: people this offseason of of just how intensely this film

1846
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:36,240
Speaker 6: is broken down and people are called out compliment of

1847
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 6: the whole nine yards in terms of what they're doing.

1848
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:39,560
Speaker 6: So it's like, you know, one hand, we're watching it,

1849
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 6: and well, you can't really learn much. I mean, I

1850
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 6: know that they're taking a lot from it.

1851
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:45,720
Speaker 3: Yup, there we go, open.

1852
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:48,799
Speaker 2: Field, angle drills, leverage.

1853
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:52,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, the cornerstone of any Patriots practice.

1854
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 6: Probably the hardest thing to do, right, I mean, just

1855
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 6: as a defender square up a guy in open field.

1856
01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 3: And be able to you know, within a Yeah.

1857
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:01,360
Speaker 5: Hard.

1858
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 7: The kind of stuff that used to just keep me up,

1859
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 7: like I just panicked.

1860
01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:08,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're gonna get a one on one guy, that's

1861
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:08,720
Speaker 5: gonna give you a little.

1862
01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:10,840
Speaker 6: I don't want to be in space with anybody, No,

1863
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 6: not me, No, my football career, I was never in

1864
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:17,320
Speaker 6: any kind of space with anybody.

1865
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 5: I was getting high with those with See. That was

1866
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 5: freshman year.

1867
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:21,720
Speaker 3: That was the fun.

1868
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:25,479
Speaker 6: Linebacker was the fun playing offensive and defensive line as

1869
01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:28,799
Speaker 6: a six foot, one hundred and ninety pound guy who can't.

1870
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 5: Really bend his knees all that. Well, that's the recipe

1871
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 5: for getting your butt kicked every day.

1872
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 2: It's like you're on skates.

1873
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:34,680
Speaker 3: It was. It was.

1874
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 2: Andre from New Jersey. I'm right there with you on.

1875
01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 4: Do screw Digs. I hate him just as much as

1876
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 4: you do. Hope they completely collapse this season. Their offensive

1877
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 4: line will let them down and their defense will take

1878
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:49,960
Speaker 4: a step back.

1879
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 3: Well, we can only we can only hope, yes, don't.

1880
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 7: Don't hope that you get better. Just hope all the

1881
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:54,639
Speaker 7: other teams.

1882
01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:57,880
Speaker 3: Why can't we have both ball Just hope everybody else

1883
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 3: gets worse? We have both? The healthy chirping on Twitter

1884
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:05,839
Speaker 3: between between Bill's Twitter and Patriots Twitter.

1885
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:08,639
Speaker 2: Over the last Well, they're making a big deal.

1886
01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:12,560
Speaker 4: About that playoff game that they just destroyed us and

1887
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:14,800
Speaker 4: that was that turns out to be their super Bowl.

1888
01:22:15,080 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 3: That was there with practice squad guys playing corner and yeah,

1889
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 3: that was their super Bowl.

1890
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:21,559
Speaker 6: I got a question, what exactly are all our friends

1891
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 6: in the media right now, because it seems like this

1892
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:25,879
Speaker 6: whole hill is dominated by all the VIPs.

1893
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:28,680
Speaker 5: I don't really see they down in front of the

1894
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 5: front of the wall.

1895
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:33,800
Speaker 6: I probably I don't see anybody but too bad, mister

1896
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 6: practice tough two D.

1897
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 3: But yeah, some some friendly, friendly rivalry type stuff with

1898
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:45,839
Speaker 3: the Bills media saying, oh, if the Patriots signed DeAndre Hopkins,

1899
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:48,200
Speaker 3: they're still the worst team in the division. You know,

1900
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 3: typical ribbing. That's fine, that's bring it on.

1901
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 5: Maybe they're right.

1902
01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I.

1903
01:22:57,720 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 5: Try not to fall Down's chill.

1904
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:01,120
Speaker 2: You know.

1905
01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 6: I went to my son had a flag football birthday

1906
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:05,720
Speaker 6: party yesterday. He was wearing crocs in it, like doing

1907
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 6: moves like we just saw Jack Jones white bottom, like,

1908
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 6: what are you doing?

1909
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 3: Crocs?

1910
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:11,800
Speaker 6: And then Alex told me a lot of time when

1911
01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 6: the players go to schools and they like, you know,

1912
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 6: visit kids you know that are that are like participating

1913
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:18,439
Speaker 6: in gym or physical activities, and they have crocs on

1914
01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 6: the players that are all just.

1915
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 5: Like, what are you doing? Do not wear crocs? We

1916
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 5: shure trying to cut and run.

1917
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 4: Claire rights in who everyone Paul waiting to see you

1918
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 4: in those glasses. One question, how are you guys feeling

1919
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 4: and what have you seen of Adrian Clem?

1920
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:34,960
Speaker 5: I feel pretty good.

1921
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 3: Uh, I'm not gonna lie. I think that what I've

1922
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:44,960
Speaker 3: seen of Adrian Clem is means absolutely nothing so far.

1923
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that he's done. I'm just not judging it.

1924
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 5: He looks like coach coaching the offensive line.

1925
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's no pads and nobody's hitting anybody. So

1926
01:23:57,040 --> 01:23:57,760
Speaker 3: I'll see in July.

1927
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 2: Travis and West Virginia says, my best guess about whether

1928
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 2: Josh Allen is dumb.

1929
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 4: He thinks he's pretty dumb. But I'm only basing that

1930
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:07,759
Speaker 4: on the dope look he always has in his face.

1931
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:10,800
Speaker 4: He's a really dopey looking guy. Paul's assertion that he

1932
01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:13,240
Speaker 4: must be smart because his play is improved is also

1933
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:14,719
Speaker 4: dope question.

1934
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:16,439
Speaker 2: Why does coach Belichick?

1935
01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:19,479
Speaker 7: Why let performance impact your opinion?

1936
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 3: Why does coach belicher?

1937
01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:24,919
Speaker 4: Why does coach Belichick always talk to the media before practice?

1938
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:27,640
Speaker 4: Is that standard across the league? Wouldn't it be more

1939
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:29,879
Speaker 4: informative to talk to him after practice?

1940
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 6: Well you just answered your own Yes, there, there you go,

1941
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 6: all part of the plan, right, Well that was yesterday.

1942
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:37,519
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna I don't have to talk about.

1943
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 3: But also there's just I just want to clarify.

1944
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 7: Yes, So judging whether or not a guy is smart

1945
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:48,479
Speaker 7: based on his level of improvement, that's dumb judging whether

1946
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 7: or not a guy is smart based on the look

1947
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 7: on his face is smart?

1948
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 2: I wonder if you're gonna let that go?

1949
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 3: Got it? Okay, Corliss weightman, the punt be better?

1950
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:03,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, you cannot. We're looking for on that one,

1951
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:04,800
Speaker 5: you know.

1952
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 4: But knowing like all the stuff that they do after

1953
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 4: practice with the film and all that stuff, if I

1954
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:12,760
Speaker 4: was the head coach, let me get my my you know,

1955
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 4: press conference over before practice, because after practice.

1956
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 3: I want to get in. I want to get get

1957
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:22,719
Speaker 3: my food, my chicken fingers. He doesn't, but let's be honest,

1958
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:24,760
Speaker 3: like the last thing that he wants is for like,

1959
01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:28,680
Speaker 3: you know, Christian Gonzalz to go off and practice in

1960
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:31,680
Speaker 3: the million Christian Gonzales questions after practice about how good

1961
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 3: he was, Like.

1962
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 6: Bill, Christian had six interceptions during the walkthrough. What have

1963
01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 6: you seen from Christian this year?

1964
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:40,559
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean, I.

1965
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:45,639
Speaker 7: Just think it's easier for him to do it before practice.

1966
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:48,639
Speaker 7: Quite frankly, I think after practice they get into their routine.

1967
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:50,599
Speaker 7: They want to get ready, to get the meetings set

1968
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:53,800
Speaker 7: up and get get into it because like let's just say,

1969
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:56,400
Speaker 7: for argument's sake, that Christian Gonzalez picks off five passes today.

1970
01:25:56,439 --> 01:25:58,600
Speaker 7: You don't think he's gonna be asked about that tomorrow, right, Like,

1971
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 7: what's the difference to today?

1972
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:05,640
Speaker 4: Robert writes in after listening to yesterday's podcast, I had

1973
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:08,599
Speaker 4: an idea on how you can covertly tell us when

1974
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:12,439
Speaker 4: Malie Cunningham's on the field, just call him Richie. It's

1975
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:14,560
Speaker 4: surprising to me the Deuce didn't come up with that

1976
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:16,720
Speaker 4: an old joke.

1977
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:22,240
Speaker 3: Rie. I actually thought about it. Then, I know the fas.

1978
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 4: On the topic of Hopkins. Uh, and something popped up

1979
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:32,360
Speaker 4: right on the topic of Hopkins. I'm officially on board

1980
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:34,320
Speaker 4: that the patriot should sign him. I did find it

1981
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:36,680
Speaker 4: interesting that he said he'd like to play with a

1982
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:38,840
Speaker 4: quarterback that loves the game. This seems like a dig

1983
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 4: on Kyle Murray. Kyler Murray, absolute, what do you guys think?

1984
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 3: Nice pump by Corliss weightman, That was what we were

1985
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:50,240
Speaker 3: looking for. Kyler likes Madden, but maybe not so much

1986
01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 3: the real stuff. Call of duty guy, Call of duty.

1987
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:53,680
Speaker 3: Oh sorry, I apologize.

1988
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 4: Mike writes in, I think the Patriots will regret not

1989
01:26:57,479 --> 01:26:59,599
Speaker 4: signing Gasicki to a two or three year deal.

1990
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:02,320
Speaker 2: He will earn a huge deal after the season.

1991
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 3: Is over, so we're already worried about next one.

1992
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 5: How are we going to resign?

1993
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:10,720
Speaker 3: To be fair, last year was his outlier here in

1994
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:13,840
Speaker 3: terms of production. I mean that system was not good

1995
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 3: for him. Yeah, he had but almost eight hundred yards

1996
01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 3: and I think like sixteen total touchdowns over two seasons

1997
01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 3: there in his second and third year, and last year

1998
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:25,639
Speaker 3: was I mean he was franchised by Miami to bring

1999
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:27,080
Speaker 3: him back last year. Franchise tag.

2000
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:29,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, you don't franchise somebody if you don't think he's

2001
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:31,880
Speaker 6: gonna be tough somewhorth to you.

2002
01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:33,680
Speaker 5: Well you can do it at that position to get

2003
01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:34,200
Speaker 5: away with him.

2004
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:36,160
Speaker 7: But yeah, I think that what they did was they

2005
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:40,639
Speaker 7: weren't quite sure how or if he would fit into

2006
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:44,840
Speaker 7: McDaniel McDaniel's new system, and then as it turned out,

2007
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:47,720
Speaker 7: he didn't really. I mean, even like Cedric Wilson is

2008
01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:49,679
Speaker 7: a free agent wide receiver they signed who.

2009
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:51,000
Speaker 3: Had really no role for them.

2010
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:53,560
Speaker 7: Not that he's a great player, but he was a

2011
01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:56,519
Speaker 7: pretty good role player in Dallas prior to that, and

2012
01:27:56,640 --> 01:27:59,640
Speaker 7: he really didn't do anything last year. So I think

2013
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:01,719
Speaker 7: when you get a new system, you don't know exactly

2014
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:03,880
Speaker 7: how the pieces are all gonna fit and GASICKI obviously

2015
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 7: do you.

2016
01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:06,360
Speaker 3: Have like thirty some catches last year? Yeah, I mean

2017
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:09,360
Speaker 3: you just real lowy by a lot. That system just

2018
01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 3: doesn't have a ton of the detached tight end stuff

2019
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 3: in it. It's a lot of in line hand in

2020
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 3: the dirt. You got to be able to block and

2021
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 3: to sell the play action, right, So if you're not,

2022
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:19,760
Speaker 3: that's just not his game.

2023
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:21,960
Speaker 7: So I think people could could look at that and

2024
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:24,519
Speaker 7: easily say, well, you know, George Kittle is a huge

2025
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 7: part of what they do in San Francisco, but he's

2026
01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:28,800
Speaker 7: such a different kind of player right animal.

2027
01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:32,120
Speaker 2: Looks like they're doing some opportunity seven on seven right

2028
01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:32,760
Speaker 2: now like that.

2029
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:35,560
Speaker 3: I think that's an opportunity for for you to go

2030
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:38,479
Speaker 3: to the bathroom. Thank you, Paul, Yes, okay, I have

2031
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:42,080
Speaker 3: a good tinkle about the play of the day yesterday,

2032
01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 3: the trace mcsorly to Trey Nixon connection, the deep ball.

2033
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:48,360
Speaker 3: I forgot about that. That was honestly probably the best.

2034
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 7: Actually, you know what I meant, I wrote it down.

2035
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:51,760
Speaker 7: I meant to included in my maybe I'll throw it

2036
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:55,000
Speaker 7: in today. I don't think I ever included in my blogs.

2037
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 3: I was probably the best, like the actualitive deep ball

2038
01:28:58,240 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 3: of camp.

2039
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:10,320
Speaker 2: Sorely taking the snaps there. Who's that whine on the

2040
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 2: far side?

2041
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:17,080
Speaker 3: Eighty two wearing bell bottoms, bell bottoms. I was here

2042
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:20,960
Speaker 3: for that, pretty pretty involved practice for for Pierre Strong,

2043
01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:24,280
Speaker 3: which you know, with James Robinson getting released, I'm still

2044
01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:26,439
Speaker 3: on the Pierre Strong train. I want to see them

2045
01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 3: incorporate him.

2046
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:29,560
Speaker 7: The skills are obviously, I mean, yeah, he has a

2047
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:31,679
Speaker 7: level of athleticism and speed.

2048
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:34,720
Speaker 3: I mean nobody else in that. They don't have very

2049
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:37,280
Speaker 3: many guys on the roster that that have hit his

2050
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:39,960
Speaker 3: kind of speed in the open field. You know it's him,

2051
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:43,160
Speaker 3: It's Taekwon, it's Marcus Jones, like those are kind of

2052
01:29:43,240 --> 01:29:46,680
Speaker 3: the group. And I would just like to see see

2053
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:48,639
Speaker 3: him get some touches, Like he's one of those guys

2054
01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:50,680
Speaker 3: that even if he only has like four or five

2055
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:52,519
Speaker 3: touches in a game, if he breaks one for forty

2056
01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:54,960
Speaker 3: yards and you know, it's still impactful even if he's

2057
01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:55,800
Speaker 3: not a volume guy.

2058
01:29:57,040 --> 01:30:01,080
Speaker 7: See Coylus weightman doing some kick cough work and I'm

2059
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:03,559
Speaker 7: not sure I've seen that is another one for your boy?

2060
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:06,400
Speaker 3: Is that Harrish.

2061
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:07,519
Speaker 5: Are too huge?

2062
01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:08,920
Speaker 3: Ye? That's Harris.

2063
01:30:09,479 --> 01:30:11,639
Speaker 5: Have you noticed Weightman doing any of this kicking.

2064
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:18,920
Speaker 3: Off before today? Not neces, Yes, a few times, Ryland definitely.

2065
01:30:21,080 --> 01:30:21,240
Speaker 6: Off.

2066
01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:25,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I I mean, look that last year that

2067
01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:27,960
Speaker 3: that might have cost you the playoffs, the fact that

2068
01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:30,240
Speaker 3: you couldn't kick the ball through the end zone, So

2069
01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:34,640
Speaker 3: that that's a a wide open competition. Not not that

2070
01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:38,080
Speaker 3: that really moves the needle for most people, but kickoff

2071
01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:41,040
Speaker 3: specialists are kicking off. And Bill Belichick was asked this

2072
01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:44,599
Speaker 3: morning about carrying two and he did mention last year

2073
01:30:44,720 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 3: how they they elevated, you know, and did that sort

2074
01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:50,599
Speaker 3: of thing and had too active on game day at

2075
01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:54,479
Speaker 3: one point kickers, So he wouldn't rule it out, you know,

2076
01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:57,800
Speaker 3: he said, I wouldn't rull it out. So it's it's

2077
01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:01,519
Speaker 3: possible that they could try to keep another guy around,

2078
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:06,080
Speaker 3: whether it's Weightman or or both kickers, to have somebody

2079
01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:09,840
Speaker 3: to kick off. I don't love it, but it's possible. Yeah.

2080
01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:11,960
Speaker 3: I don't love it either. I think there's better use.

2081
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 7: I mean, certainly your fourth round pick should be able

2082
01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 7: to kick field goals and he didn't kick off the

2083
01:31:17,439 --> 01:31:18,320
Speaker 7: great you know who.

2084
01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:25,000
Speaker 4: Knows, Travis uh Yes, Paul Dopey. People are often looked dopey.

2085
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:28,759
Speaker 7: Yeah, contrary to Peyton Manning one of the dumber quarterbacks.

2086
01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:31,479
Speaker 3: Contrary to your opinion, being good at sports doesn't mean

2087
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:35,120
Speaker 3: you're smart. Being good at sports doesn't mean you're smart.

2088
01:31:35,160 --> 01:31:35,599
Speaker 3: That's true.

2089
01:31:36,040 --> 01:31:39,000
Speaker 7: Who said that if he's good at sports, he's smart.

2090
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:40,680
Speaker 3: Well, you said if I.

2091
01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:43,599
Speaker 7: Said, I talked about the level of the swift level

2092
01:31:43,640 --> 01:31:44,679
Speaker 7: of improvement he showed.

2093
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:46,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's good at sports.

2094
01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:49,360
Speaker 7: I mean, you talk he was good at sports when

2095
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 7: he came into the NFL, but he but he wasn't

2096
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:53,160
Speaker 7: playing as smart as he does now.

2097
01:31:53,360 --> 01:31:56,439
Speaker 3: That's really I can't really think of too many guys

2098
01:31:56,880 --> 01:32:01,519
Speaker 3: that had to jump that Josh Allen, it's surgery. He's

2099
01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:06,240
Speaker 3: really very, very unique in that respect that he he

2100
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:07,400
Speaker 3: looked like he couldn't hit.

2101
01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:11,240
Speaker 7: He had a water god given ability when he walked

2102
01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:13,800
Speaker 7: into the league. Yeah, two years later he was one

2103
01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:15,080
Speaker 7: of the best quarterbacks in football.

2104
01:32:15,160 --> 01:32:17,080
Speaker 3: I mean most of the time, like guys that that

2105
01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:19,840
Speaker 3: are just balls of clay like that they their bus

2106
01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:22,200
Speaker 3: like you know you're talking about like Jake Lockers and

2107
01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:25,320
Speaker 3: stuff like that, that are just these freak athletes that

2108
01:32:25,400 --> 01:32:29,200
Speaker 3: they try to mold into quarterbacks. But he's he's really

2109
01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:33,360
Speaker 3: taken an MVP leap. I mean, he's an MVP.

2110
01:32:33,479 --> 01:32:34,720
Speaker 5: Can I just think the interesting to me?

2111
01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:37,479
Speaker 3: I know he plays for another team and everything, you

2112
01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:40,080
Speaker 3: know in my vision and we have to say he sucks.

2113
01:32:40,200 --> 01:32:42,680
Speaker 6: But no, I mean I think he's really good. I

2114
01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:44,120
Speaker 6: got a lot of respect for him. I just want

2115
01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:46,000
Speaker 6: to beat him. But I don't know how anybody can

2116
01:32:46,040 --> 01:32:48,519
Speaker 6: look at him and not saying he's awesome and has

2117
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:50,519
Speaker 6: had the Patriots number for the last three years.

2118
01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:52,400
Speaker 7: Just the way he plays for the most now, he

2119
01:32:52,920 --> 01:32:56,040
Speaker 7: tries still, I think to do too much at times.

2120
01:32:56,360 --> 01:32:58,879
Speaker 5: That's my worry Paul this year, but not as.

2121
01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:02,960
Speaker 7: Like being like stupid, like I think he tries to

2122
01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:07,320
Speaker 7: do too much. I think the offense last year got

2123
01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:10,439
Speaker 7: a little stale. The Buffalo offense has as the season

2124
01:33:10,479 --> 01:33:11,439
Speaker 7: went on, I thought got.

2125
01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:11,920
Speaker 3: A little stale.

2126
01:33:12,479 --> 01:33:15,320
Speaker 2: I just wonder that they got worn out, you know.

2127
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:17,960
Speaker 5: I think part of the end of the year is

2128
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:18,559
Speaker 5: what you're saying.

2129
01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:25,000
Speaker 3: They they're they're an analytically driven organization and they're a

2130
01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:29,280
Speaker 3: team that throws the ball in all situations. Like they

2131
01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:31,840
Speaker 3: in terms of like passing rate over expected and things

2132
01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:34,040
Speaker 3: like that, they are always near the top of the

2133
01:33:34,120 --> 01:33:36,080
Speaker 3: league with Kansas City. I mean they're they're throwing the

2134
01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:38,560
Speaker 3: ball on first and ten, They're throwing the ball and

2135
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:43,320
Speaker 3: you know, all all situations. And I think what they've

2136
01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:46,440
Speaker 3: found out, especially in that game last year against Cincinnati,

2137
01:33:47,080 --> 01:33:49,479
Speaker 3: if you don't have some semblance of a running game

2138
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:53,120
Speaker 3: in the playoffs, it makes you one dimensional and when

2139
01:33:53,160 --> 01:33:55,880
Speaker 3: the weather comes in Buffalo it can be a problem.

2140
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:59,000
Speaker 3: And they signed Damien Harris this offseason, I think, to

2141
01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:01,880
Speaker 3: hopefully bring in what they think will be more of

2142
01:34:02,120 --> 01:34:06,320
Speaker 3: like a running game. And I do think that they

2143
01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:09,599
Speaker 3: get that. But at the same time, they drafted Dalton

2144
01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:12,880
Speaker 3: Kid in the first round, who is basically MIKEA Sicky,

2145
01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:14,720
Speaker 3: So I don't know how much they get it, but

2146
01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:17,600
Speaker 3: they at least are are trying a little bit to.

2147
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:20,400
Speaker 7: Be no and I think they look at Damien Harris

2148
01:34:20,439 --> 01:34:23,160
Speaker 7: and James Cook as better options for them, you know,

2149
01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:25,599
Speaker 7: traditionally running the ball, and I'd be surprised if they

2150
01:34:25,640 --> 01:34:27,920
Speaker 7: didn't try to run it a little bit more in

2151
01:34:28,040 --> 01:34:29,920
Speaker 7: some of those short yard of situations than they have

2152
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:30,479
Speaker 7: in the past.

2153
01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:32,479
Speaker 3: Now does Harris do it, I don't know.

2154
01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:36,000
Speaker 7: I mean, when he's healthy, he's reasonably productive, but he's

2155
01:34:36,080 --> 01:34:38,639
Speaker 7: not ever healthy on any consistent basis.

2156
01:34:39,080 --> 01:34:42,240
Speaker 3: I mean, they their whole running game in Buffalo is

2157
01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:46,240
Speaker 3: Josh Allen. And if Josh Allen isn't involved in the run,

2158
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:49,000
Speaker 3: you know, whether it's keeping the football and actually running

2159
01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:51,599
Speaker 3: it himself or some sort of read option or something

2160
01:34:51,680 --> 01:34:54,280
Speaker 3: like that, they turning around and giving it to the back.

2161
01:34:54,360 --> 01:34:56,280
Speaker 3: They can't do it. They don't do it well. So

2162
01:34:57,280 --> 01:34:59,800
Speaker 3: at some point, especially playing in Buffalo late in the year,

2163
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:02,560
Speaker 3: I mean, how many playoff games have we seen the

2164
01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:05,519
Speaker 3: Garrett Blunt running down Indianapolis's throat, you know, when it's

2165
01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:08,640
Speaker 3: snowing or it's thirty degrees out and twice it just

2166
01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:14,160
Speaker 3: I was gonna say too, he was irrelevant, Okay, all right,

2167
01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:20,400
Speaker 3: early two thousands games against the Colts were domed. They were,

2168
01:35:20,479 --> 01:35:22,439
Speaker 3: but they were a running team like in those days.

2169
01:35:22,479 --> 01:35:23,760
Speaker 3: That was Antoine Smith. That was.

2170
01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:26,400
Speaker 5: As you said, that's the butter.

2171
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:28,280
Speaker 6: I just but for me, the bigges thing that I'm

2172
01:35:28,280 --> 01:35:30,160
Speaker 6: worried about with Buffalo, and I'd say that is if

2173
01:35:30,160 --> 01:35:32,280
Speaker 6: I'm a Buffalo fan, it's just all the talk about

2174
01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:35,360
Speaker 6: Josh Allen having to like stop doing what he's been doing,

2175
01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:36,880
Speaker 6: you know, to get away from running the balls.

2176
01:35:37,400 --> 01:35:39,080
Speaker 5: I just if he's in his own head.

2177
01:35:39,320 --> 01:35:41,360
Speaker 3: I think that's a recipe for disaster. I think then

2178
01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:42,759
Speaker 3: you're going to talk about regression.

2179
01:35:42,760 --> 01:35:44,840
Speaker 6: You're going to talk about him trying to force places

2180
01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:48,400
Speaker 6: that aren't there because he's trying to you know, question whether.

2181
01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:51,400
Speaker 3: Or not talking the of Buffalo right now. I love it.

2182
01:35:51,400 --> 01:35:53,040
Speaker 3: I think we're all trying to talk ourselves into it.

2183
01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:55,760
Speaker 3: But it's a good point. And I think like the

2184
01:35:55,880 --> 01:35:58,880
Speaker 3: question is is and as they do like special team

2185
01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:01,559
Speaker 3: stuff that I don't is really an excite too many people.

2186
01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:05,320
Speaker 3: But the question is is do they then get to

2187
01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:06,960
Speaker 3: the playoffs and they're like, all right, now go be

2188
01:36:07,120 --> 01:36:08,280
Speaker 3: Josh Allen like and then.

2189
01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:12,559
Speaker 7: On Well, they tried to do that to him last

2190
01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:14,360
Speaker 7: Like I was joking last year when they played in

2191
01:36:14,439 --> 01:36:16,439
Speaker 7: that kickoff game against the.

2192
01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:19,120
Speaker 3: Rams, and that's all they talked about all summers.

2193
01:36:19,160 --> 01:36:21,120
Speaker 7: We want him to be safer. We wanted to be

2194
01:36:21,200 --> 01:36:23,519
Speaker 7: smarter with some of the decisions running the ball. And

2195
01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:25,280
Speaker 7: I'm like, the first third down of the game, he's

2196
01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:28,439
Speaker 7: like hurdling a linebacker and and you know, taking a

2197
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:30,439
Speaker 7: shot on the side, Like, oh, it's good to say

2198
01:36:30,439 --> 01:36:32,120
Speaker 7: they're going to be a little bit smartly. I don't

2199
01:36:32,160 --> 01:36:33,800
Speaker 7: think he's capable of doing that. I think he just

2200
01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:35,960
Speaker 7: wants to make He wants to make place.

2201
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:38,960
Speaker 3: He's not smart. He he just wants to make place.

2202
01:36:40,439 --> 01:36:43,280
Speaker 3: He's not smart. It's I've always thought that Josh Allen

2203
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:47,400
Speaker 3: is a more natural, better throwing Cam Newton. Sure, and

2204
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:50,479
Speaker 3: I think that he's Cam was the same way where

2205
01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:53,760
Speaker 3: Cam Newton is the comp He was question he's superman, right,

2206
01:36:53,920 --> 01:36:55,400
Speaker 3: and he's just going to run you over. But the

2207
01:36:55,479 --> 01:36:58,040
Speaker 3: problem was is by year eight, Cam Newton was his

2208
01:36:58,120 --> 01:37:00,200
Speaker 3: whole body started to and I think that he is

2209
01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:02,360
Speaker 3: refined enough that he will be able to play longer

2210
01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:02,600
Speaker 3: than you.

2211
01:37:03,439 --> 01:37:05,120
Speaker 2: I think the comps also Gronk.

2212
01:37:05,640 --> 01:37:08,639
Speaker 4: I think these two guys who are just so naturally gifted,

2213
01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:11,360
Speaker 4: it's like playing in the school yard for them, and

2214
01:37:11,439 --> 01:37:13,280
Speaker 4: they could always just do whatever they want.

2215
01:37:13,640 --> 01:37:15,920
Speaker 3: Belichick used to refer to Gronk as a football player,

2216
01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:20,200
Speaker 3: the Josh Allen one of the smartest football players around. Interesting.

2217
01:37:20,479 --> 01:37:24,280
Speaker 2: Uh. Bill and Edelman spent spite having a goofy look

2218
01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:27,639
Speaker 2: on his face. Billan Edelmans spent that whole UH session

2219
01:37:27,760 --> 01:37:28,519
Speaker 2: talking to each other.

2220
01:37:29,120 --> 01:37:33,160
Speaker 3: There we go. Music's on all right, eleven eleven. We

2221
01:37:33,320 --> 01:37:39,840
Speaker 3: got Mac on the center, yeah, John Jack Jones that

2222
01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:41,040
Speaker 3: outside corner.

2223
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:43,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, Gonzo watch out?

2224
01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:48,120
Speaker 3: So that all right?

2225
01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:49,240
Speaker 5: So let's just talk about that one.

2226
01:37:49,479 --> 01:37:53,160
Speaker 6: It looked like they were about to run Mackett screen

2227
01:37:53,439 --> 01:37:56,880
Speaker 6: to get SICKI but Jack Jones was like, maybe on

2228
01:37:56,960 --> 01:37:59,280
Speaker 6: a blitz or it looks like.

2229
01:37:59,400 --> 01:38:00,200
Speaker 5: And went right in on it.

2230
01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:01,879
Speaker 3: What are the zoomies?

2231
01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:03,799
Speaker 2: I don't know if that when the dog has the zoomies?

2232
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:05,519
Speaker 2: They just shot wanting all over the place.

2233
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:09,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did never heard that term. That's great. Maybe

2234
01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:12,840
Speaker 3: I'm like Josh Allen, it's a fun it's a fun time. Yeah.

2235
01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:15,200
Speaker 3: That one was like did you know the play beforehand?

2236
01:38:15,880 --> 01:38:17,519
Speaker 6: Because they were all looking at this in the corner

2237
01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:20,479
Speaker 6: blitz into like a wide receiver screen and like once

2238
01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:21,639
Speaker 6: again not looking good.

2239
01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:25,320
Speaker 3: Oh boy, I think the defenses I think this is

2240
01:38:25,439 --> 01:38:28,360
Speaker 3: real and I think the defense just had two great reps. Yeah,

2241
01:38:28,360 --> 01:38:32,280
Speaker 3: they were in there because they're they're hooting and hollering

2242
01:38:32,360 --> 01:38:33,360
Speaker 3: on the sideline right now.

2243
01:38:33,479 --> 01:38:37,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so far we're back to the Patricia offense.

2244
01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:44,439
Speaker 2: Where's with Phil O'Brien? Where is he? Billy?

2245
01:38:44,520 --> 01:38:47,680
Speaker 3: He's some back, He's back left, the man back on

2246
01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:51,080
Speaker 3: the wing, three by one.

2247
01:38:52,360 --> 01:38:54,040
Speaker 5: Is that is that family out wide?

2248
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:59,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah it is. It's probably a man like overhead

2249
01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:01,679
Speaker 3: right now over the slot.

2250
01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:07,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just kinda drop into his own in complete

2251
01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:08,080
Speaker 5: to Paka.

2252
01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:12,400
Speaker 3: The floods like just seem cleared out. And to your

2253
01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:15,760
Speaker 3: point of it, I didn't mean to step on you there.

2254
01:39:15,960 --> 01:39:18,200
Speaker 7: Okay, to your point, like you said, this is real

2255
01:39:18,280 --> 01:39:19,880
Speaker 7: and the defense is you know, as soon as that

2256
01:39:20,040 --> 01:39:23,519
Speaker 7: pass was caught and they touched up, Parker Bentley put

2257
01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:25,519
Speaker 7: his hand up in there with the fist fourth down,

2258
01:39:26,120 --> 01:39:27,599
Speaker 7: you know, So I do think this is a little

2259
01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:30,720
Speaker 7: bit more a little bit more competitive than what we've

2260
01:39:30,760 --> 01:39:34,840
Speaker 7: seen tipped past complete to Mac Jones and he could go.

2261
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:38,680
Speaker 4: So Mac Threw got tipped, Mac caught the tip and

2262
01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:41,200
Speaker 4: then took off when killed and that would have been

2263
01:39:41,240 --> 01:39:42,080
Speaker 4: a touchdown.

2264
01:39:42,160 --> 01:39:45,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm surprised you hit the gritty there, and just

2265
01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:46,880
Speaker 3: you know, f YI, the.

2266
01:39:46,920 --> 01:39:48,960
Speaker 5: Only rookie on the field right now is Jake Andrews

2267
01:39:49,000 --> 01:39:49,599
Speaker 5: at right guard.

2268
01:39:50,760 --> 01:39:51,680
Speaker 2: So three out of.

2269
01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:54,240
Speaker 6: Four plays not to give me the offensive line then high,

2270
01:39:54,640 --> 01:40:02,200
Speaker 6: uh sure, left, right, left, right, Anderson Strange, Andrews, Andrews mcdermots. Well,

2271
01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:03,960
Speaker 6: I think it seems like McDermott's been get more of

2272
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:07,240
Speaker 6: the top reps numbers over reap you have.

2273
01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:14,920
Speaker 5: You happen to be lucky that I thought, whoa, that's mandra.

2274
01:40:17,080 --> 01:40:19,800
Speaker 3: Yeah. The offense is having a hard time I think

2275
01:40:20,200 --> 01:40:21,400
Speaker 3: getting in getting in rhythm.

2276
01:40:21,439 --> 01:40:24,800
Speaker 2: I would yeah, I know without Juju and.

2277
01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:28,120
Speaker 3: Into a degree with that. Taekwon too. It's you don't

2278
01:40:28,120 --> 01:40:31,040
Speaker 3: want to get too ahead of yourself, but they just

2279
01:40:31,200 --> 01:40:32,240
Speaker 3: have been really.

2280
01:40:32,120 --> 01:40:34,360
Speaker 2: Really, this is gonna be a top five defense in

2281
01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:34,800
Speaker 2: the league.

2282
01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:37,120
Speaker 7: Everything is just under It might be, but it only

2283
01:40:37,200 --> 01:40:39,360
Speaker 7: it only matter how they played against the other the

2284
01:40:39,439 --> 01:40:41,519
Speaker 7: good offenses like last year.

2285
01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:43,160
Speaker 3: I know, the five defense last year.

2286
01:40:43,160 --> 01:40:45,280
Speaker 4: If they're a top five defense, they'll have played a

2287
01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:48,160
Speaker 4: lot of good offenses on their schedule.

2288
01:40:48,320 --> 01:40:50,000
Speaker 3: But it's deceiving.

2289
01:40:50,120 --> 01:40:50,679
Speaker 5: It's my point.

2290
01:40:50,720 --> 01:40:53,280
Speaker 4: They'll play a very smart Josh Allen twice. They're gonna

2291
01:40:53,280 --> 01:40:56,160
Speaker 4: play Aaron Rodgers twice. They're gonna play Patrick Mahomes.

2292
01:40:56,800 --> 01:40:59,040
Speaker 7: Well, you know, pay Aaron Rodgers that was last year

2293
01:40:59,040 --> 01:41:01,160
Speaker 7: because he sucked last year in the Packers offense.

2294
01:41:01,160 --> 01:41:02,240
Speaker 2: He's still a smart quarter.

2295
01:41:02,360 --> 01:41:03,439
Speaker 3: Let's go twenty seven on you.

2296
01:41:03,479 --> 01:41:05,120
Speaker 2: The Marjacks game we're gonna play.

2297
01:41:05,160 --> 01:41:06,200
Speaker 3: They're gonna tick overtime.

2298
01:41:06,920 --> 01:41:08,799
Speaker 2: You know they're gonna play a lot of good offense,

2299
01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:10,679
Speaker 2: a lot of good quarterbacks.

2300
01:41:10,240 --> 01:41:10,840
Speaker 5: To put a banner.

2301
01:41:11,240 --> 01:41:13,879
Speaker 3: Also took an overturn touch took Aaron Rodgers to overtime.

2302
01:41:13,920 --> 01:41:16,400
Speaker 2: It's their number five then or top five. They're gonna

2303
01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:16,840
Speaker 2: have earned it.

2304
01:41:18,840 --> 01:41:21,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, I just see what happens when the games that

2305
01:41:21,960 --> 01:41:30,719
Speaker 7: matter PBu Peppers, little pressure peppers.

2306
01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:32,080
Speaker 6: He's all right.

2307
01:41:32,920 --> 01:41:35,120
Speaker 3: I just feel like this. I mean, like I just said,

2308
01:41:35,200 --> 01:41:38,080
Speaker 3: like this, they're missing two key players in the in

2309
01:41:38,160 --> 01:41:40,720
Speaker 3: the past catching but that was like a third down,

2310
01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:45,519
Speaker 3: fourth down type of situation and brought the pressure. It's like, well,

2311
01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:47,479
Speaker 3: who who gets open? Like you, who are they going?

2312
01:41:47,880 --> 01:41:50,320
Speaker 3: It's not about they're gonna be a fine offense, but

2313
01:41:50,360 --> 01:41:53,599
Speaker 3: it's just who's that one guy that that is tough

2314
01:41:53,680 --> 01:41:55,800
Speaker 3: to cover in those types of situations And it's on

2315
01:41:55,880 --> 01:41:59,400
Speaker 3: the sideline when you feel like when you watch these

2316
01:41:59,479 --> 01:42:02,800
Speaker 3: practices all spring, you just can't help but but feel

2317
01:42:02,920 --> 01:42:06,519
Speaker 3: like like Copkins is just you're screaming for it in

2318
01:42:06,600 --> 01:42:08,920
Speaker 3: some of these practices. Just a guy that you can

2319
01:42:09,000 --> 01:42:10,759
Speaker 3: go to all spots.

2320
01:42:11,080 --> 01:42:14,360
Speaker 6: So Mac Mac and that top offense and this is

2321
01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:16,880
Speaker 6: a misfire by Zappa.

2322
01:42:17,200 --> 01:42:20,080
Speaker 2: So it's defensive days.

2323
01:42:20,120 --> 01:42:23,200
Speaker 7: An interesting note here, you know, just personal wise, defensively,

2324
01:42:23,360 --> 01:42:26,240
Speaker 7: Judon was not with that group and he's out there now. Yeah,

2325
01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:28,839
Speaker 7: that's why when I was kind of surprised that Bentley

2326
01:42:28,960 --> 01:42:33,439
Speaker 7: was out over the slot on that play. Just yeah,

2327
01:42:33,439 --> 01:42:36,960
Speaker 7: I know, he didn't take part in the voluntary OTAs

2328
01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:40,400
Speaker 7: maybe coming back in a little bit slower.

2329
01:42:40,680 --> 01:42:47,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, had a throwaway a sack, nobody opened, blow up screen.

2330
01:42:47,360 --> 01:42:49,160
Speaker 3: That's ad pass.

2331
01:42:49,640 --> 01:42:53,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, not a great but another example of just Steve

2332
01:42:53,080 --> 01:42:54,479
Speaker 6: Belichick kind of spinning the wheel.

2333
01:42:54,479 --> 01:42:58,120
Speaker 5: Where you got Jennings and and Judon coming off the

2334
01:42:58,360 --> 01:42:59,720
Speaker 5: you know, the offensive left side.

2335
01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:03,280
Speaker 6: I mean they're you know, they're messing around with guys

2336
01:43:03,320 --> 01:43:05,120
Speaker 6: and you know, given different weird books and stuff.

2337
01:43:11,439 --> 01:43:18,920
Speaker 3: Battered pass is that Perkins pass couldn't have been because Jennings.

2338
01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:22,320
Speaker 3: Jennings has a white shirt. Yeah to right, Yeah, catched

2339
01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:22,960
Speaker 3: by eighty six.

2340
01:43:23,200 --> 01:43:26,120
Speaker 5: Yeah first cru you don't even have to part.

2341
01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:35,439
Speaker 6: Your lips to say it. So I wonder too, if

2342
01:43:35,439 --> 01:43:37,200
Speaker 6: this is supposed to be no huddle too minute kind

2343
01:43:37,240 --> 01:43:39,960
Speaker 6: of stuff. They just can't string two plays together, so

2344
01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:43,680
Speaker 6: they can't really get into it. Time Montgomery with an

2345
01:43:43,720 --> 01:43:45,959
Speaker 6: actual catch, but seven.

2346
01:43:46,120 --> 01:43:51,519
Speaker 3: Late in the down. I think we're gonna need batteries

2347
01:43:51,560 --> 01:43:51,920
Speaker 3: for Fred.

2348
01:43:52,280 --> 01:43:57,000
Speaker 5: I think as Mike is off right at the best

2349
01:43:57,040 --> 01:43:57,439
Speaker 5: part too.

2350
01:44:00,840 --> 01:44:09,120
Speaker 3: You got there, you go, Zappy? Oh, just played by

2351
01:44:09,760 --> 01:44:11,720
Speaker 3: the cover. The coverage has been pretty good.

2352
01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:15,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, in these two periods, these two these two uh

2353
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:18,880
Speaker 7: sets of playa there is thank goodness spread he's back.

2354
01:44:19,240 --> 01:44:20,120
Speaker 2: Batteries go fast?

2355
01:44:20,240 --> 01:44:24,439
Speaker 5: Huh did you.

2356
01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:28,200
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2357
01:44:29,000 --> 01:44:30,120
Speaker 5: Missing key on white today?

2358
01:44:36,320 --> 01:44:37,680
Speaker 2: Any idea of what his deal is.

2359
01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:41,759
Speaker 6: It's always bizarre when a guy talks after practice seems

2360
01:44:41,800 --> 01:44:45,240
Speaker 6: totally fine and he's just not out here the next day.

2361
01:44:45,360 --> 01:44:57,639
Speaker 3: It's strange. Yeah. Oh, trips bunch, classic Bill O'Brien, trips bunch,

2362
01:44:57,760 --> 01:44:58,080
Speaker 3: right there.

2363
01:44:59,160 --> 01:45:01,280
Speaker 2: Zappy had a with that that wasn't a design run,

2364
01:45:01,439 --> 01:45:01,600
Speaker 2: was it?

2365
01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:01,880
Speaker 7: No?

2366
01:45:02,160 --> 01:45:07,320
Speaker 5: No, mean, that's why an opportunity system.

2367
01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:15,719
Speaker 6: Yes, it's uh sixty four, uh sixty three, sixty five

2368
01:45:16,920 --> 01:45:17,799
Speaker 6: sixty two.

2369
01:45:19,640 --> 01:45:20,680
Speaker 5: In a fifthur.

2370
01:45:21,680 --> 01:45:22,760
Speaker 3: Let me give gonz a PB.

2371
01:45:23,200 --> 01:45:27,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, Gonzales close fast on that pass. The guy was

2372
01:45:27,080 --> 01:45:28,479
Speaker 4: open and then he wasn't open.

2373
01:45:28,640 --> 01:45:33,880
Speaker 3: Basically the same script as as max sequence with before

2374
01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:37,760
Speaker 3: the field zero bullets seventy four stuba right, stuba high

2375
01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:39,880
Speaker 3: seventy four reef.

2376
01:45:40,760 --> 01:45:42,439
Speaker 6: Wow, I don't think he just walked out, all right,

2377
01:45:42,439 --> 01:45:44,240
Speaker 6: so that might it might have been sixty seventy four

2378
01:45:44,280 --> 01:45:45,719
Speaker 6: in set of sixty four left tackle.

2379
01:45:45,800 --> 01:45:48,840
Speaker 3: Then okay, all right, looks like the ones are back

2380
01:45:48,920 --> 01:45:55,639
Speaker 3: in inside it though. Yeah, yeah, same group as they're

2381
01:45:55,640 --> 01:45:57,640
Speaker 3: going the same direction. Defense is right.

2382
01:45:58,080 --> 01:46:00,799
Speaker 5: All right, here we got this, but this was ZAPPI.

2383
01:46:00,880 --> 01:46:02,640
Speaker 5: So Zappy's getting some one snap.

2384
01:46:03,960 --> 01:46:07,240
Speaker 3: Yep. Get he's got a little work I.

2385
01:46:07,240 --> 01:46:10,280
Speaker 7: Think more I think a lore yep than than he

2386
01:46:10,360 --> 01:46:11,519
Speaker 7: has in previous practice.

2387
01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:20,200
Speaker 3: That's a that's a there was a rare guy open in.

2388
01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:24,680
Speaker 7: These two sets that I think that was get sick sick,

2389
01:46:25,040 --> 01:46:27,200
Speaker 7: sicky cats bro.

2390
01:46:27,680 --> 01:46:34,200
Speaker 3: Nobody had the hook? Are we doing the hook? The hook?

2391
01:46:34,360 --> 01:46:34,960
Speaker 2: It's the hook.

2392
01:46:35,080 --> 01:46:37,600
Speaker 6: It's a sin man, it's a sin Yeah. Now we

2393
01:46:37,680 --> 01:46:40,519
Speaker 6: got Sam Roberts in there. Uh, it's just interested to

2394
01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:43,120
Speaker 6: watch him. Second year guy didn't really do much last year.

2395
01:46:43,160 --> 01:46:45,720
Speaker 6: But with guy out, he's really one of the only

2396
01:46:45,800 --> 01:46:50,320
Speaker 6: new faces that potentially could maybe give you some replacement value.

2397
01:46:53,479 --> 01:46:57,640
Speaker 3: So he's in for Uh. I think they took a

2398
01:46:57,760 --> 01:46:59,960
Speaker 3: quality out and they slid bar more over to the

2399
01:47:00,120 --> 01:47:00,800
Speaker 3: right side and.

2400
01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:02,200
Speaker 5: That once he's in for.

2401
01:47:04,680 --> 01:47:06,040
Speaker 2: Tetrich tech teachers.

2402
01:47:06,080 --> 01:47:12,560
Speaker 3: Sorry, yeah, but that's you know, Robert's opportunity.

2403
01:47:12,600 --> 01:47:14,320
Speaker 5: Maybe he can take it.

2404
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:24,960
Speaker 3: This is the first day that that we've seen Zappy

2405
01:47:25,080 --> 01:47:28,160
Speaker 3: get some extended work with David Andrews if you.

2406
01:47:28,200 --> 01:47:31,719
Speaker 7: Wanted, if you wanted to say there's a competition, today's

2407
01:47:31,760 --> 01:47:33,280
Speaker 7: the first day that would back that up.

2408
01:47:33,400 --> 01:47:36,599
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and Mac is you know, and I'm sure

2409
01:47:36,640 --> 01:47:39,599
Speaker 3: your shows will Yeah, Max's way back.

2410
01:47:39,640 --> 01:47:42,040
Speaker 7: Now, that was the proper use of my shows because

2411
01:47:42,439 --> 01:47:48,080
Speaker 7: Mike and Tony will be all of that. Of course

2412
01:47:48,120 --> 01:47:50,080
Speaker 7: they probably won't know about that because they'll be too

2413
01:47:50,120 --> 01:47:51,920
Speaker 7: busy getting breathless stat updates.

2414
01:47:54,840 --> 01:47:56,559
Speaker 6: Well, I don't even think the stats are gonna look

2415
01:47:56,600 --> 01:48:01,080
Speaker 6: that great for Mac today, no matter how they cut

2416
01:48:01,120 --> 01:48:01,400
Speaker 6: them up.

2417
01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:09,320
Speaker 3: No, so getting mafia. Look now, at Right Guard, I

2418
01:48:09,439 --> 01:48:11,559
Speaker 3: had some seven on seven. You know, we're talking about

2419
01:48:11,600 --> 01:48:14,120
Speaker 3: those fades and stuff, but when they get into these

2420
01:48:14,200 --> 01:48:16,720
Speaker 3: team drills, it just seems like there's just nothing down

2421
01:48:16,760 --> 01:48:17,160
Speaker 3: the field.

2422
01:48:17,479 --> 01:48:20,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that would that would have been broken.

2423
01:48:20,320 --> 01:48:21,360
Speaker 5: And then there's no routes though.

2424
01:48:21,479 --> 01:48:27,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all defense is coming here. You're uh, they're

2425
01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:30,400
Speaker 2: sending the heat when when Hopkins is business.

2426
01:48:30,479 --> 01:48:33,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, don't let them leave, that's what you

2427
01:48:33,360 --> 01:48:35,080
Speaker 6: weren't here yet Evan though, And that was the point

2428
01:48:35,120 --> 01:48:36,479
Speaker 6: I made at the top of the show. It's just

2429
01:48:36,560 --> 01:48:40,559
Speaker 6: without Thornton, without Juju, it's really just Kasicki and Bill

2430
01:48:40,560 --> 01:48:42,320
Speaker 6: O'Brien are the only new elements were looking at at

2431
01:48:42,360 --> 01:48:45,200
Speaker 6: the offense right now. And you know it's your point,

2432
01:48:45,280 --> 01:48:47,200
Speaker 6: that's it's kind of all your speed and playmakers. If

2433
01:48:47,200 --> 01:48:49,600
Speaker 6: you were to have you know, Juju and Thornton and

2434
01:48:49,880 --> 01:48:52,640
Speaker 6: Hopkins like, it wouldn't be that hard for ant of

2435
01:48:52,720 --> 01:48:54,400
Speaker 6: us to just see those three guys supped in as

2436
01:48:54,439 --> 01:48:55,599
Speaker 6: the three receivers right now.

2437
01:48:55,640 --> 01:48:57,479
Speaker 3: For the three that are out there, two that are

2438
01:48:57,520 --> 01:49:00,799
Speaker 3: out there, I just think that you you know, Parker

2439
01:49:00,880 --> 01:49:03,760
Speaker 3: is obviously a contested catch guy, and then Born and

2440
01:49:04,280 --> 01:49:05,920
Speaker 3: the tight ends they're gonna just want to work the

2441
01:49:05,960 --> 01:49:08,680
Speaker 3: middle of the field, and that that intermediate level and

2442
01:49:09,400 --> 01:49:12,840
Speaker 3: the defense know is just all over it right now.

2443
01:49:13,640 --> 01:49:16,640
Speaker 3: There's just no there's no threat of anybody going up

2444
01:49:16,680 --> 01:49:19,120
Speaker 3: the field. Really some of these plays.

2445
01:49:19,200 --> 01:49:21,280
Speaker 6: This is the perfect practice they needed the day before

2446
01:49:21,320 --> 01:49:25,960
Speaker 6: de hop comes. But I gotta say to one other

2447
01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:30,080
Speaker 6: one other thing to highlight it's just between the rookies

2448
01:49:30,560 --> 01:49:32,320
Speaker 6: and the options that they have at right guard I

2449
01:49:32,439 --> 01:49:35,559
Speaker 6: really wonder, like if Michael and when you becomes back

2450
01:49:35,640 --> 01:49:38,040
Speaker 6: and he's healthy, is that a move they try to

2451
01:49:38,080 --> 01:49:41,800
Speaker 6: make somebody needs a guard. He's one of the only

2452
01:49:41,840 --> 01:49:44,080
Speaker 6: guys on the roster you might be able to spin

2453
01:49:44,200 --> 01:49:48,280
Speaker 6: and get some value for. But what do you what

2454
01:49:48,600 --> 01:49:51,040
Speaker 6: are you looking to get any now, I don't know.

2455
01:49:51,720 --> 01:49:54,960
Speaker 7: Player, maybe a lot because I think you, I mean,

2456
01:49:55,000 --> 01:50:00,200
Speaker 7: I think you'd probably get are Yeah at best, I mean, yeah,

2457
01:50:01,120 --> 01:50:01,320
Speaker 7: I'm not.

2458
01:50:01,479 --> 01:50:03,360
Speaker 5: I think he's more valuable to you. Yeah.

2459
01:50:04,120 --> 01:50:07,000
Speaker 3: Well, I just think also, if we're not sure about

2460
01:50:07,320 --> 01:50:09,800
Speaker 3: Trent Brown, I wouldn't I wouldn't mess it up too much.

2461
01:50:10,840 --> 01:50:12,240
Speaker 5: Tail. That's a good point.

2462
01:50:14,600 --> 01:50:17,000
Speaker 7: I think what you have to hope is they drafted

2463
01:50:17,040 --> 01:50:22,080
Speaker 7: three offensive linemen. Can one or two of them play

2464
01:50:22,240 --> 01:50:25,439
Speaker 7: next year? That's I mean, that would be ideal. So

2465
01:50:25,560 --> 01:50:27,479
Speaker 7: then you let it, let it when you play, and

2466
01:50:27,560 --> 01:50:31,120
Speaker 7: then you feel fine letting him walk away because Antonio Maffi.

2467
01:50:30,920 --> 01:50:32,320
Speaker 5: Can step right in and play next year.

2468
01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:37,760
Speaker 6: You know, Oh, you wonder if maybe you draft the

2469
01:50:37,800 --> 01:50:39,479
Speaker 6: left tackle next year, and then you know, it's just

2470
01:50:40,520 --> 01:50:41,240
Speaker 6: cold strange.

2471
01:50:41,439 --> 01:50:42,240
Speaker 3: Jake Andrews.

2472
01:50:42,520 --> 01:50:44,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, and all of a sudden, Mafi and so are

2473
01:50:44,840 --> 01:50:47,760
Speaker 6: the media of your line they're all in their first

2474
01:50:47,800 --> 01:50:48,719
Speaker 6: three years of the league.

2475
01:50:50,280 --> 01:50:53,200
Speaker 7: You get some of the Uherson there now with the

2476
01:50:53,400 --> 01:50:57,000
Speaker 7: Chase McSorley, But still I think the defense is like

2477
01:50:57,520 --> 01:50:58,640
Speaker 7: all over that.

2478
01:50:58,800 --> 01:51:01,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're too good not letting us.

2479
01:51:02,200 --> 01:51:05,040
Speaker 2: Is that Mapu out there fifty five yeah, fifty two,

2480
01:51:05,280 --> 01:51:08,639
Speaker 2: fifty two, Yeah, playing safety? So I need monocular Yeah,

2481
01:51:08,680 --> 01:51:09,240
Speaker 2: he was a.

2482
01:51:10,720 --> 01:51:12,120
Speaker 5: Lot less noticeable today.

2483
01:51:12,120 --> 01:51:16,040
Speaker 3: Maybe he's been reading. He's been reading Patriots dot com. Yeah, Bill,

2484
01:51:16,120 --> 01:51:18,280
Speaker 3: I mean reading too much. Patrios dot Com. Put an

2485
01:51:18,320 --> 01:51:18,560
Speaker 3: end to that.

2486
01:51:18,720 --> 01:51:20,680
Speaker 5: Well, like I said, those high level reps, it was

2487
01:51:21,280 --> 01:51:23,240
Speaker 5: Andrews was the only rookie out there on the oppensive

2488
01:51:23,240 --> 01:51:24,799
Speaker 5: side of the ball and nobody on defense.

2489
01:51:26,280 --> 01:51:31,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, boy, oh boy, Defense's day.

2490
01:51:33,000 --> 01:51:34,559
Speaker 5: Paul, you used that headline yesterday.

2491
01:51:34,560 --> 01:51:34,920
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2492
01:51:36,880 --> 01:51:37,599
Speaker 5: Part deh.

2493
01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:39,200
Speaker 3: Well.

2494
01:51:39,760 --> 01:51:41,160
Speaker 7: Part of the reason I did it that way is

2495
01:51:41,160 --> 01:51:43,920
Speaker 7: because I knew Evan was writing about the offense, and

2496
01:51:44,000 --> 01:51:45,439
Speaker 7: I knew you were writing about the rookies.

2497
01:51:45,680 --> 01:51:48,280
Speaker 2: So I didn't want to have like duplicate headlines.

2498
01:51:48,320 --> 01:51:52,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you would be fair as I've bashed the

2499
01:51:52,240 --> 01:51:55,280
Speaker 3: offense for the past ten minutes. You this defense has

2500
01:51:55,320 --> 01:51:57,120
Speaker 3: been together. I mean, this is a group that's been

2501
01:51:57,160 --> 01:52:00,479
Speaker 3: together there's no coaching turnover, say should be like.

2502
01:52:00,520 --> 01:52:03,840
Speaker 7: This, especially in a passing camp where your secondary is

2503
01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:07,680
Speaker 7: in particular. I mean, yes, you're you're implementing Christian Gonzales.

2504
01:52:07,760 --> 01:52:10,599
Speaker 7: But those safeties have been together for two and three

2505
01:52:10,680 --> 01:52:14,200
Speaker 7: years now, Phillips, Duggar, Peppers now two years.

2506
01:52:14,439 --> 01:52:16,759
Speaker 3: Even Bledsoe has been around. This is his third season

2507
01:52:16,840 --> 01:52:17,679
Speaker 3: in the system.

2508
01:52:18,000 --> 01:52:21,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, with Jack Jones second year, Jonathan Jones been around

2509
01:52:21,920 --> 01:52:22,400
Speaker 7: for whatever.

2510
01:52:22,439 --> 01:52:25,040
Speaker 3: Right, and you know Gerond and Steve still running it.

2511
01:52:25,200 --> 01:52:27,800
Speaker 3: So I would be more concerned if it was the

2512
01:52:27,880 --> 01:52:30,240
Speaker 3: other way around. That's a good point. Yeah, I mean,

2513
01:52:30,520 --> 01:52:34,080
Speaker 3: still early on in the whole Bill O'Brien thing, and

2514
01:52:34,240 --> 01:52:37,600
Speaker 3: you don't have Juju or Taekwon. So there you go.

2515
01:52:37,680 --> 01:52:43,080
Speaker 3: I just talked myself and lost Devin mccordy though we're

2516
01:52:43,120 --> 01:52:44,519
Speaker 3: back on Pitches dot Com Radio.

2517
01:52:44,680 --> 01:52:46,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's significant.

2518
01:52:47,280 --> 01:52:49,160
Speaker 6: But I'd say I think I I mean, I kind

2519
01:52:49,160 --> 01:52:51,040
Speaker 6: of felt the same way about the DMAC thing the

2520
01:52:51,080 --> 01:52:53,000
Speaker 6: whole time. They're not gonna, like specifically go out and

2521
01:52:53,080 --> 01:52:55,840
Speaker 6: get a specific free safety. They're gonna roll with what

2522
01:52:55,920 --> 01:52:58,120
Speaker 6: they have. They're gonna use Miles Brian a little bit. Probably,

2523
01:52:58,120 --> 01:52:59,840
Speaker 6: they're gonna use Jonathan Jones a little bit in that

2524
01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:02,600
Speaker 6: free safety role at times, and I think they're just

2525
01:53:02,640 --> 01:53:05,719
Speaker 6: gonna try to roll with Dugger and Peppers and Phillips.

2526
01:53:05,800 --> 01:53:08,840
Speaker 3: I have the same question about them defensively, though to

2527
01:53:08,920 --> 01:53:12,360
Speaker 3: an extent, because it's one of those things where like

2528
01:53:13,000 --> 01:53:15,439
Speaker 3: Belichick and the Belichicks, I guess we can call it

2529
01:53:15,640 --> 01:53:17,800
Speaker 3: and Jerrod can. They can smoke and mirrors and they

2530
01:53:17,840 --> 01:53:20,120
Speaker 3: can disguise, and they can rotate all they want, but

2531
01:53:20,520 --> 01:53:21,640
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, it's going to be

2532
01:53:21,680 --> 01:53:23,040
Speaker 3: third and eight. The Bills are going to get to

2533
01:53:23,040 --> 01:53:24,439
Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage and you're gonna have to get

2534
01:53:24,479 --> 01:53:27,240
Speaker 3: off the field. And how much of that type of

2535
01:53:27,280 --> 01:53:29,200
Speaker 3: stuff is really going to matter when you're going up

2536
01:53:29,240 --> 01:53:33,040
Speaker 3: against you know, Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen And that.

2537
01:53:33,120 --> 01:53:34,920
Speaker 7: Was the stuff I'm talking about With the whole top

2538
01:53:34,960 --> 01:53:36,559
Speaker 7: five thing, I think you could be a top five

2539
01:53:36,600 --> 01:53:40,320
Speaker 7: defense in this league and still be at a grave

2540
01:53:40,400 --> 01:53:43,960
Speaker 7: disadvantage right against those good teams and crunch times.

2541
01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:47,160
Speaker 3: That's just still my concern with their roster. After watching

2542
01:53:47,439 --> 01:53:49,720
Speaker 3: you know now that there's a possibility this might be

2543
01:53:49,760 --> 01:53:52,200
Speaker 3: the last practice we see in the spring. I think

2544
01:53:52,280 --> 01:53:55,880
Speaker 3: that though the roster is fine, you know, one through

2545
01:53:55,960 --> 01:54:00,080
Speaker 3: fifty three, but that that top high end talent. There

2546
01:54:00,080 --> 01:54:02,400
Speaker 3: are some guys that have been showing some flash, some

2547
01:54:02,479 --> 01:54:05,080
Speaker 3: of the younger guys and last couple of draft classes.

2548
01:54:05,160 --> 01:54:06,880
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, it's going to

2549
01:54:06,960 --> 01:54:09,160
Speaker 3: come down to when the chips are on the table

2550
01:54:09,439 --> 01:54:13,080
Speaker 3: and it's our best versus your best, and I still

2551
01:54:13,080 --> 01:54:14,960
Speaker 3: think they have some questions on whether or not their

2552
01:54:15,040 --> 01:54:16,880
Speaker 3: best is going to be better than everybody else's.

2553
01:54:17,080 --> 01:54:18,439
Speaker 2: That was somebody did something.

2554
01:54:18,479 --> 01:54:22,320
Speaker 5: Yea Anthony Jennings got to jump on the edge rush there.

2555
01:54:22,400 --> 01:54:23,679
Speaker 5: Ye yeah, Bill O'Brien not happy.

2556
01:54:23,720 --> 01:54:24,760
Speaker 3: I gotta what are we doing?

2557
01:54:25,600 --> 01:54:27,400
Speaker 5: I don't know who he was yelling at, but yeah.

2558
01:54:27,479 --> 01:54:29,680
Speaker 7: Probably Jennings because he was about eight steps ahead of

2559
01:54:29,720 --> 01:54:30,680
Speaker 7: the smack snapcount.

2560
01:54:34,520 --> 01:54:38,120
Speaker 6: Some Mac chilling with Bourn during that, so he hasn't

2561
01:54:38,160 --> 01:54:39,760
Speaker 6: been an island the whole time.

2562
01:54:39,760 --> 01:54:41,760
Speaker 2: It's like we're getting some of the starters out there

2563
01:54:41,880 --> 01:54:43,720
Speaker 2: again for defense.

2564
01:54:49,560 --> 01:54:51,280
Speaker 3: This is Mac at quarterback.

2565
01:54:51,320 --> 01:54:53,560
Speaker 2: Assume Mac is back in.

2566
01:54:55,040 --> 01:54:56,320
Speaker 5: The good old Matthew's BA.

2567
01:54:57,960 --> 01:55:04,120
Speaker 3: Got some Antonio Maffi reps that left guard, so still

2568
01:55:04,200 --> 01:55:11,760
Speaker 3: it right tackle and seen in some of these these

2569
01:55:12,040 --> 01:55:16,520
Speaker 3: three deep across shells and the kind of rotating into

2570
01:55:16,560 --> 01:55:17,960
Speaker 3: different spots from it, which is interesting.

2571
01:55:18,000 --> 01:55:19,440
Speaker 7: I don't want to say this like it like it's

2572
01:55:19,440 --> 01:55:21,840
Speaker 7: a big thing, but that looked awfully twenty twenty two

2573
01:55:22,040 --> 01:55:24,680
Speaker 7: esque that play. There were two guys in the same

2574
01:55:24,760 --> 01:55:28,280
Speaker 7: spot on the sideline. It looked like you over torew

2575
01:55:28,320 --> 01:55:30,240
Speaker 7: a running back and a tight end end up diving

2576
01:55:30,320 --> 01:55:30,800
Speaker 7: and catching it.

2577
01:55:30,840 --> 01:55:32,000
Speaker 3: On the sideline.

2578
01:55:43,760 --> 01:55:44,400
Speaker 2: Quick pass.

2579
01:55:45,480 --> 01:55:49,040
Speaker 3: It looked Okay, it's my guy, strong, look it's strong.

2580
01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:53,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't I I agree, Paul. I've gotten some

2581
01:55:53,880 --> 01:55:55,360
Speaker 5: twenty twenty two bots from today.

2582
01:55:55,400 --> 01:55:59,440
Speaker 6: A little bit with the offense, that's all.

2583
01:55:59,080 --> 01:56:02,360
Speaker 7: But the the road constant. Someone did something wrong on that.

2584
01:56:02,400 --> 01:56:03,680
Speaker 7: But there's no way those two guys are.

2585
01:56:03,600 --> 01:56:05,440
Speaker 3: Supposed to be in the same speed.

2586
01:56:05,480 --> 01:56:07,240
Speaker 5: Generally, it's a lot of checks downs, a lot of

2587
01:56:07,400 --> 01:56:09,520
Speaker 5: just you know, well, I think that passed.

2588
01:56:09,680 --> 01:56:12,240
Speaker 3: That's but that's gonna be. That's going to be the offense.

2589
01:56:12,320 --> 01:56:13,920
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's what Bill likes to do,

2590
01:56:14,120 --> 01:56:17,440
Speaker 3: Bill O'Brien, and I think that caters to his quarterback too.

2591
01:56:17,480 --> 01:56:17,920
Speaker 3: I don't think.

2592
01:56:18,720 --> 01:56:20,240
Speaker 7: I don't think you can do what they tried to

2593
01:56:20,320 --> 01:56:22,840
Speaker 7: do with Mac Jones last year and just say let's

2594
01:56:23,320 --> 01:56:25,200
Speaker 7: just rip, let it rip, drive it down the field.

2595
01:56:25,240 --> 01:56:29,960
Speaker 3: Consistently, kids, take what's there. Be decisive, be quick, little,

2596
01:56:30,120 --> 01:56:33,720
Speaker 3: you know, take what they give you, sit rosal option

2597
01:56:33,880 --> 01:56:37,320
Speaker 3: routes underneath, you know, find the soft spots, clear it

2598
01:56:37,400 --> 01:56:40,880
Speaker 3: out and run it underneath like that. That's Bill O'Brien, like,

2599
01:56:40,960 --> 01:56:44,240
Speaker 3: that's that's what he did, and he's done for ten years.

2600
01:56:44,360 --> 01:56:51,880
Speaker 3: What the offense looked like with Brady mac some audibling.

2601
01:56:52,320 --> 01:56:55,240
Speaker 3: I like to see that. Yeah, I think there's that's

2602
01:56:55,320 --> 01:56:57,160
Speaker 3: one thing that I think we have noticed as a

2603
01:56:57,200 --> 01:57:00,360
Speaker 3: positive that there certainly has been at a little bit

2604
01:57:00,400 --> 01:57:02,280
Speaker 3: more of that direction at the line of scrimmage from

2605
01:57:02,360 --> 01:57:04,320
Speaker 3: mac already, where it's not just for you're gonna get

2606
01:57:04,400 --> 01:57:06,320
Speaker 3: up to the line and just run whatever we called

2607
01:57:06,880 --> 01:57:09,040
Speaker 3: h There there's a little bit of adjustments going on,

2608
01:57:09,320 --> 01:57:12,280
Speaker 3: and even you know yesterday with some of those completions

2609
01:57:12,320 --> 01:57:14,640
Speaker 3: he had against the Blitz late in practice, you see

2610
01:57:14,640 --> 01:57:18,760
Speaker 3: a little bit more of that every day. A lot

2611
01:57:18,800 --> 01:57:20,200
Speaker 3: of Pierre Strong woman's practice.

2612
01:57:20,320 --> 01:57:26,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, comes with a good time though certainly.

2613
01:57:27,920 --> 01:57:29,960
Speaker 6: It's like we see the opportunities that arising for some

2614
01:57:30,000 --> 01:57:32,320
Speaker 6: of these guys, Sam Roberts, Pierre Strong just based on

2615
01:57:32,560 --> 01:57:34,760
Speaker 6: health cuts all that stuff, and they've got to be

2616
01:57:34,800 --> 01:57:35,160
Speaker 6: aware of it.

2617
01:57:35,920 --> 01:57:40,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, big play here, third and five zero. Rally Webb

2618
01:57:40,280 --> 01:57:43,080
Speaker 3: is his number one receiver, and you.

2619
01:57:43,120 --> 01:57:47,080
Speaker 7: Got Soca underneath. They're gonna give him the first down.

2620
01:57:47,120 --> 01:57:49,960
Speaker 7: I'm not sure he would have had it, says here

2621
01:57:50,040 --> 01:57:52,160
Speaker 7: in the card. Oh no, I think he's calling fourth down,

2622
01:57:52,200 --> 01:57:53,959
Speaker 7: fourth down, fourth down.

2623
01:57:54,040 --> 01:57:58,880
Speaker 3: This says Rally Webb. Matt Sokele. Yeah, I think Trey

2624
01:57:59,000 --> 01:57:59,880
Speaker 3: Nixon was in there.

2625
01:58:00,720 --> 01:58:02,680
Speaker 7: Trying to stick, say first and ten, but I thought

2626
01:58:02,720 --> 01:58:06,720
Speaker 7: the uh, the ball placement. I thought he indicated forth down,

2627
01:58:06,800 --> 01:58:08,640
Speaker 7: but perk.

2628
01:58:08,440 --> 01:58:16,680
Speaker 3: Skurt, Sure, how do you do that? It's back in

2629
01:58:16,760 --> 01:58:19,560
Speaker 3: the throat. I beg your pardon.

2630
01:58:19,600 --> 01:58:22,080
Speaker 6: I feel like, what's his face? The Fox guy, Frank

2631
01:58:22,160 --> 01:58:28,800
Speaker 6: Kelly Endo, you know SoC the SoCal show, say, gronk.

2632
01:58:28,560 --> 01:58:29,480
Speaker 5: Out there in eighty seven.

2633
01:58:29,760 --> 01:58:31,960
Speaker 2: A lot of quick passes. They've given up on those

2634
01:58:32,040 --> 01:58:32,720
Speaker 2: longer routes.

2635
01:58:32,920 --> 01:58:39,000
Speaker 3: Oh, Judon tied up with somebody.

2636
01:58:40,360 --> 01:58:41,200
Speaker 5: They're being silly.

2637
01:58:41,480 --> 01:58:44,360
Speaker 7: No, they were being silly. But but Jennings came over

2638
01:58:44,520 --> 01:58:47,160
Speaker 7: and chewed on and chasing Hines. I think I think

2639
01:58:47,200 --> 01:58:49,920
Speaker 7: he might have been stuck. Yeah, seriously, it's like a

2640
01:58:50,000 --> 01:58:56,080
Speaker 7: face mask. Yeah, I'm not sure exactly what happened.

2641
01:58:56,120 --> 01:58:59,960
Speaker 2: Man didn't look like it was heated.

2642
01:59:00,280 --> 01:59:15,440
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I don't think some huh rpo perhaps, yeah,

2643
01:59:15,480 --> 01:59:15,960
Speaker 3: a little bit.

2644
01:59:17,560 --> 01:59:19,760
Speaker 7: But I did think that Jenny's might have thought there

2645
01:59:19,880 --> 01:59:21,720
Speaker 7: was something going on and he kind of came over

2646
01:59:21,840 --> 01:59:22,320
Speaker 7: and they.

2647
01:59:22,360 --> 01:59:24,920
Speaker 3: Just he left and he's on the sideline now, huh

2648
01:59:26,600 --> 01:59:27,080
Speaker 3: on a knee.

2649
01:59:30,240 --> 01:59:33,600
Speaker 5: All right, Mac is dehelmeted.

2650
01:59:33,880 --> 01:59:36,400
Speaker 2: All right, that's gonna be it.

2651
01:59:36,720 --> 01:59:36,920
Speaker 3: There.

2652
01:59:37,040 --> 01:59:38,280
Speaker 2: We're gonna wrap this thing up.

2653
01:59:38,400 --> 01:59:43,320
Speaker 4: They're going into some special team stuff, which we'll leave

2654
01:59:43,400 --> 01:59:47,920
Speaker 4: that for somebody else to cover part. Yeah, but that's

2655
01:59:48,000 --> 01:59:51,480
Speaker 4: day two. That's a wrap for us. Thank you for listening,

2656
01:59:51,640 --> 01:59:55,720
Speaker 4: Thank you for watching. We might be back tomorrow day three.

2657
01:59:55,840 --> 01:59:56,320
Speaker 3: We don't know.

2658
01:59:57,040 --> 02:00:00,880
Speaker 2: History says that sometimes Day three gets canceled, but if

2659
02:00:00,920 --> 02:00:04,520
Speaker 2: it doesn't, we'll be back, same time, same station, and

2660
02:00:04,840 --> 02:00:06,800
Speaker 2: until then, Thanks for watching.

2661
02:00:09,000 --> 02:00:12,800
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02:00:16,000 --> 02:00:19,120
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02:00:19,160 --> 02:00:22,240
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