WEBVTT - Budget Multi-Verse: Hulu's Redux Redux | SVU 0:00:21.244 --> 0:00:24.604 Film Spotting is presented by Regal Unlimited, the all you 0:00:24.645 --> 0:00:27.565 can watch movie subscription pass that pays for itself in 0:00:27.685 --> 0:00:31.365 just two visits. See any standard two D movie anytime 0:00:31.725 --> 0:00:34.845 with no blackoutdates or restrictions. Sign up now on the 0:00:34.885 --> 0:00:37.284 Regal app or at the link in our description and 0:00:37.405 --> 0:00:43.885 use code film spot twenty six to receive fifteen percent off. 0:00:47.165 --> 0:00:50.444 A woman kills the man that kidnapped and killed her daughter, 0:00:51.084 --> 0:00:54.645 and then she does it again and again and again 0:00:54.885 --> 0:00:59.445 and again and again. It's Reducs Reducs on Hulu. 0:00:59.804 --> 0:01:02.925 I'm that singer, and I'm Jordan Hoffman, and I'm pretty 0:01:02.925 --> 0:01:05.365 sure the movie is called Redo Redo, but we'll get 0:01:05.405 --> 0:01:06.244 to that in a moment. 0:01:06.365 --> 0:01:11.325 Anyhow, With more May Redo and I say, reduc. 0:01:11.045 --> 0:01:13.165 Hey, I gotta read the opening bit, with more, most 0:01:13.164 --> 0:01:16.445 story series, more stuff coming straight to streaming. Ever then 0:01:16.525 --> 0:01:19.645 before it's time for a podcast that keeps track of 0:01:19.725 --> 0:01:23.045 it all. On that podcast, as you know, Film Spotting SVU. 0:01:23.685 --> 0:01:26.125 This week we've got a review of Redu Reduce, plus 0:01:26.164 --> 0:01:29.804 some Odyssey talk Yo Yo Yo Homer in the house, 0:01:30.324 --> 0:01:36.005 plus some streaming res so yeah already, some new to 0:01:36.125 --> 0:01:39.044 VOD streaming titles, and a new game. Who's doing the 0:01:39.045 --> 0:01:40.804 game this week? Is it you or is it Sam? 0:01:41.324 --> 0:01:44.124 I don't know anything. You just said yo yo yo, 0:01:44.205 --> 0:01:48.965 Homer in the house, I briefly lost my soul, left 0:01:49.005 --> 0:01:50.005 my body. 0:01:50.005 --> 0:01:53.845 Homeboy, Homer, No stop, no stop, All right, it's all 0:01:53.885 --> 0:01:56.365 coming up. All of it is coming up. On Film 0:01:56.365 --> 0:01:58.085 Spotting SMA SVU. 0:01:58.685 --> 0:02:05.125 Oh God, welcome to Film Spotting SVU. I met Singer. 0:02:05.245 --> 0:02:08.924 Later in the show, we will answer a listener request 0:02:09.045 --> 0:02:13.725 for a streaming recommendation for a lesser known heist film. 0:02:14.285 --> 0:02:20.125 Spoiler alert, it's Oceans thirty. No, I'm just kidding. And 0:02:20.365 --> 0:02:25.245 this week's aime, which producer Sam is calling multi box 0:02:26.085 --> 0:02:26.885 letter verse. 0:02:27.285 --> 0:02:31.325 Wow cool. All right, Well, the other thing and we're 0:02:31.325 --> 0:02:35.484 gonna mention this week's pick of a streaming movie is Hulu. 0:02:36.445 --> 0:02:40.245 The good old Hulu gang has a multiverse thriller called 0:02:40.605 --> 0:02:44.325 I don't know. I pronounced it Redo Redo. Matt Singer 0:02:44.365 --> 0:02:45.885 says it's Redus Reducs. 0:02:46.005 --> 0:02:50.165 Well, I'm going off of one of a very well 0:02:50.204 --> 0:02:55.725 known movie, Apocalypse now, Reducs. Do you say apocalypse now? Redo? 0:02:56.165 --> 0:02:59.084 The answer is yes, I do. Actually, I don't know. 0:02:59.204 --> 0:03:01.804 I just assume that it's the Silent X it's a little. 0:03:01.805 --> 0:03:04.085 I always have a set. Maybe I've been a philistine 0:03:04.085 --> 0:03:06.005 and a moron for the last sever many years. I've 0:03:06.005 --> 0:03:08.964 always said apocalypse. Now reeks, when you walk into you 0:03:09.005 --> 0:03:12.285 need let producer Sam, please, can you we need someone 0:03:12.325 --> 0:03:13.165 to adjudicate this? 0:03:13.365 --> 0:03:17.565 What what reducs? All right? 0:03:20.405 --> 0:03:22.805 You're I think the only solution is to just not 0:03:22.885 --> 0:03:24.565 say the name of this movie from now on. 0:03:25.165 --> 0:03:27.205 Get your reducts in a row. Now, why don't we 0:03:27.245 --> 0:03:31.244 have the listeners right to feedback at film Spotting SVU 0:03:31.365 --> 0:03:34.925 dot com and tell me is r E d ux? 0:03:35.005 --> 0:03:38.165 Is it redo or reducts? Also, when you walk into 0:03:38.205 --> 0:03:41.165 a fancy house and you first come in the main room, 0:03:41.605 --> 0:03:44.045 you know when there's at umbrella stand and you wipe 0:03:44.045 --> 0:03:48.005 your feet. Are you in a foyer or a foyer? 0:03:49.125 --> 0:03:52.365 I would say a foyer or I might say a foyer. 0:03:52.485 --> 0:03:55.365 I don't know, Well, so this I might say either one. 0:03:55.885 --> 0:03:57.205 If you do it twice. 0:03:57.205 --> 0:03:59.725 Hard lemonades have I had? Then I walk in this room? 0:04:01.285 --> 0:04:02.845 How many white claws have if you. 0:04:02.885 --> 0:04:05.485 Go into two foyer, is it's a foyer? Redo? 0:04:05.525 --> 0:04:05.685 Well? 0:04:05.685 --> 0:04:07.765 All I can tell you is the movie is coming. 0:04:07.765 --> 0:04:11.765 We're gonna talk about it. But first sure bulletin a 0:04:11.765 --> 0:04:16.525 bulletin from twenty five hundred b C. Is this guy. 0:04:17.205 --> 0:04:19.964 His name is Odysseus. He slept all the way to 0:04:20.005 --> 0:04:22.805 Troy and then he have GPS and he could not 0:04:22.925 --> 0:04:25.885 make it home. Meanwhile, other guys wentished up his wife 0:04:25.925 --> 0:04:28.645 and she's played by Anne Hathaway, So who can blame them? 0:04:28.765 --> 0:04:31.725 And the movie is The Odyssey and it's the only 0:04:31.765 --> 0:04:34.605 thing people are talking about right now. Now we are 0:04:34.645 --> 0:04:37.085 the streaming video unit, we have no prisons talking about 0:04:37.125 --> 0:04:40.724 the Odyssey, but the Odyssey will stream someday, so we 0:04:40.805 --> 0:04:44.125 figured I got to get it off my chest. 0:04:44.205 --> 0:04:46.765 I love her movie, Jordan is so now I want 0:04:46.765 --> 0:04:49.485 to ask this because I look, I saw The Odyssey 0:04:49.485 --> 0:04:51.925 and I liked it. I would have no problem not 0:04:52.005 --> 0:04:55.525 talking about it. Today Jordan cannot not talk about the Odyssey. 0:04:55.565 --> 0:04:59.165 He has been texting me like memes that he creates. 0:05:00.284 --> 0:05:04.245 He's texting me bad Odyssey jokes, yeah bad. He thought 0:05:04.284 --> 0:05:06.404 his Yo yo yo Homer in the house was bad. 0:05:06.445 --> 0:05:08.525 You should see some of the things he's texting me. 0:05:09.205 --> 0:05:11.404 So I'm just gonna you really want to talk? So 0:05:11.485 --> 0:05:14.165 what is it about this movie that has so captivated 0:05:14.205 --> 0:05:15.085 your imagination? 0:05:15.284 --> 0:05:18.245 Jordan. Well, it's a couple things. One is I want 0:05:18.284 --> 0:05:20.805 to apologize to my ninth grade teacher because I never 0:05:21.005 --> 0:05:22.885 I didn't read the book when she assigned it to me. 0:05:23.445 --> 0:05:27.005 I sat in class and paid attention enough so that 0:05:27.045 --> 0:05:29.565 I was able to pass the class and do well, 0:05:30.245 --> 0:05:32.085 But when I was supposed to go home and read it, 0:05:32.165 --> 0:05:34.245 I never did. I tried the first page. I was like, 0:05:34.245 --> 0:05:37.445 what the hell is going on? Single muse of a man? Ah, 0:05:37.485 --> 0:05:39.964 come on is I'm gonna go watch Star Trek so 0:05:40.605 --> 0:05:43.365 I feel like a bit of a bozo. And as 0:05:43.404 --> 0:05:45.885 I'm watching it, and the Iliad too, we were assigned 0:05:45.925 --> 0:05:49.005 the Iliad, and this movie is a hodgepodge of the Iliad, 0:05:49.045 --> 0:05:51.405 the Odyssey, and also a little bit of the a Enid, 0:05:51.605 --> 0:05:53.724 which is not Homer. That's some other guy. 0:05:53.885 --> 0:05:57.405 Virgil was ned Flanders. I think did that one. 0:05:58.565 --> 0:06:02.485 While I'm watching this movie, I going, oh, yeah, I 0:06:02.525 --> 0:06:04.685 remember that from ninth grade. I Ah, that guy that 0:06:04.765 --> 0:06:08.044 sounds familiar. Yeah, the swine Herd. I remember the swine Herd. 0:06:08.485 --> 0:06:10.124 I was like, oh, that's kind of cool. Why didn't 0:06:10.125 --> 0:06:11.844 I pay attention to this in class? I felt like 0:06:11.844 --> 0:06:13.205 a shmo And I. 0:06:13.205 --> 0:06:15.445 Look, really the reason you're so captivated by. 0:06:15.925 --> 0:06:19.205 But I loved the one other things I loved when 0:06:19.284 --> 0:06:24.845 there's the mentor character to young telemachus Us and then 0:06:24.844 --> 0:06:29.765 Odysseus says, and then spoiler for five thousand you know 0:06:29.885 --> 0:06:32.364 year old story, one thousand year old stories, spoiler alert 0:06:32.805 --> 0:06:36.805 when mentor gets killed and Telemachus is said, and then 0:06:37.205 --> 0:06:40.765 you don't really hear his name, and then Odysseus calls 0:06:40.844 --> 0:06:44.404 him mentor and he's the mentor, and I'm like, oh, 0:06:44.485 --> 0:06:46.685 I kind of remember that from ninth grade. That's where 0:06:46.685 --> 0:06:48.885 that word comes from. I forgot all that. So I'm 0:06:48.925 --> 0:06:52.005 in the audience by myself watching this movie, just like 0:06:52.165 --> 0:06:54.885 laughing at myself for being a dumbass. So I don't know, No, 0:06:55.045 --> 0:06:57.685 I really, I'm all kidding. Say I'm a Nolan Stan 0:06:57.844 --> 0:06:59.765 Everyone's got a right to be a stand of us. 0:06:59.765 --> 0:07:03.805 So you love Jim Katta, I love I love Christopher Nolan, 0:07:04.365 --> 0:07:05.525 and I. 0:07:05.445 --> 0:07:08.645 Love Christopher Nolan's movies too, But I'm not sending you 0:07:08.844 --> 0:07:10.805 memes at all hours of the night. 0:07:11.965 --> 0:07:18.005 I really was captivated, is the word I I was 0:07:18.165 --> 0:07:21.045 just I had high expectations and they were met and 0:07:21.165 --> 0:07:23.965 they were crossed. I was just loved it. I just 0:07:24.005 --> 0:07:26.565 loved every moment of it. It's my favorite movie of 0:07:26.605 --> 0:07:30.165 the year, and it's the best movie of its kind 0:07:30.325 --> 0:07:33.165 since Oppenheimer, which was the best movie of its kind 0:07:33.245 --> 0:07:35.325 since Tenants, which was the what is its kind? 0:07:35.365 --> 0:07:37.525 It's not like Oppenheimer in terms of genre. 0:07:37.885 --> 0:07:41.165 Well, it's now to be serious, and I feel it 0:07:41.285 --> 0:07:43.845 that it and Oppenheimer and Tennant and a lot of 0:07:43.845 --> 0:07:47.285 the other Nolan films, they do have great commonalities in 0:07:47.325 --> 0:07:52.925 their form and thematics. Yes, thematically, but also just the 0:07:53.085 --> 0:07:56.645 very way you kind of jump right in the close ups, 0:07:56.485 --> 0:07:58.965 the cutting back and forth through time, but also just 0:07:59.005 --> 0:08:02.565 the propulsive editing. I think this woman who's his editor, 0:08:02.645 --> 0:08:05.125 Jennifer Lame, and she's anything, but let me tell you, 0:08:05.685 --> 0:08:10.325 I feel that she is really his secret weapon because 0:08:10.885 --> 0:08:13.325 God knows how much crazy footage he's shooting with these 0:08:13.445 --> 0:08:16.685 giant cameras the size of a refrigerator and dumping in 0:08:16.765 --> 0:08:19.525 her lap. It's a three hour movie that doesn't really 0:08:19.565 --> 0:08:22.285 take breath. It just key movement, and the same with 0:08:22.285 --> 0:08:26.165 with Interstellar, with with with Tenant especially is I mean 0:08:26.245 --> 0:08:29.365 just a perfect movie. I think Tenant is great and 0:08:30.245 --> 0:08:33.205 I know you. I saw your ranking on screencrutch dot com. 0:08:33.205 --> 0:08:35.725 You said that was like his eighth best film. Yes, 0:08:35.765 --> 0:08:37.845 I was gonna that was gonna scream at you. You 0:08:37.885 --> 0:08:41.405 said you ranked his films and you put I believe 0:08:41.445 --> 0:08:44.205 you put uh the al Pacino one. 0:08:44.085 --> 0:08:46.845 Last, right, Yeah, I think that's right, yes. 0:08:46.805 --> 0:08:49.365 Which which I guess something's gotta be last. And then 0:08:49.365 --> 0:08:52.645 you said follow last. Yes, I would probably put following 0:08:52.765 --> 0:08:55.165 dead last, and then the al Pacino one Insomnia and 0:08:55.165 --> 0:08:56.845 then go from there. But then like you had one 0:08:56.845 --> 0:09:00.205 other one, probably Dark Knight Rises, and then you put 0:09:00.245 --> 0:09:03.285 Tenant and I was like that singer, I can't believe 0:09:03.325 --> 0:09:05.205 I allow you in my life with these kinds of opinions. 0:09:05.245 --> 0:09:08.565 It was a movie I understand less every time I 0:09:08.645 --> 0:09:11.285 watch it, and I've seen it many times. 0:09:10.885 --> 0:09:13.844 I have this no possible way to understand that movie. 0:09:13.925 --> 0:09:16.405 It's that's part of what's so good anyway. So I 0:09:16.445 --> 0:09:18.365 really liked it. But you know what, here's the thing. 0:09:18.845 --> 0:09:22.605 So it's an emergency session because Odyssey is all anybody's 0:09:22.605 --> 0:09:25.324 talking about. I want the listeners to write in, to 0:09:25.405 --> 0:09:28.285 write into feedback at film Spotting SVU dot com, And 0:09:28.445 --> 0:09:32.285 next week we're gonna have a special Odyssey episode we'll 0:09:32.325 --> 0:09:33.965 we talk about the movie a little bit more in depth. 0:09:33.965 --> 0:09:36.324 I'm gonna see it again. Between now and then, we're 0:09:36.365 --> 0:09:40.645 gonna be talk I'm gonna be wearing armor and eating 0:09:40.684 --> 0:09:43.484 feta cheese, very Greek, and we're gonna. 0:09:43.285 --> 0:09:47.564 Have Thank God, Riverside isn't smell a vision, That's all 0:09:47.605 --> 0:09:48.324 I have to say. 0:09:48.684 --> 0:09:51.525 And we're gonna talk about Odyssey as if it were 0:09:51.564 --> 0:09:53.365 like that. You know, we're gonna do rec segs based 0:09:53.405 --> 0:09:56.205 on Odyssey in some way, maybe our favorite you know, 0:09:56.365 --> 0:09:58.925 Robert Pattinson Villain rolls or something. I don't know, but 0:09:58.965 --> 0:10:02.165 that's gonna be next week's special edition. Odestly because it's 0:10:02.165 --> 0:10:03.445 the movie of the year. I mean, it made a 0:10:03.445 --> 0:10:05.245 bazillion dollars at the box office. 0:10:05.285 --> 0:10:08.684 Also, it didn't make that much money. It did well. 0:10:09.085 --> 0:10:11.885 It made more opening weekend than Oppenheimer did, and that 0:10:11.925 --> 0:10:13.525 made a billion dollars in the long run. 0:10:13.564 --> 0:10:16.525 Did it even make more than Toy Story five did 0:10:16.804 --> 0:10:19.205 a couple of weeks ago. We didn't. We didn't stop 0:10:19.205 --> 0:10:21.165 the presses to talk about Toy Store. 0:10:22.285 --> 0:10:26.685 I believe that when this is done, it's. 0:10:26.885 --> 0:10:31.725 This the civilization that tells the end of No. 0:10:31.845 --> 0:10:34.845 When When When Otisi is out of when Odyssey is 0:10:34.845 --> 0:10:38.045 out of theaters. I believe it's total box office tally 0:10:38.125 --> 0:10:40.885 will be comparable to Oppenheimer's. I don't know that it'll 0:10:40.925 --> 0:10:44.565 surpass it, but it'll be comparable in the same general ballpark, 0:10:44.605 --> 0:10:46.485 which is close to a billion dollars, I think. I 0:10:46.485 --> 0:10:49.645 think Oppenheimer ultimately made like didn't quite make a billion 0:10:49.645 --> 0:10:51.724 and made like nine hundred and ninety eight million or 0:10:51.765 --> 0:10:55.485 something like that. Anyway, So that's next week's that's the 0:10:55.564 --> 0:10:58.485 fans are excited. They're out there right now. They're they're 0:10:58.684 --> 0:11:00.245 they're stretching, they're they're. 0:11:00.085 --> 0:11:05.324 Banging down the gates of Joy episode exactly. 0:11:05.405 --> 0:11:08.085 So that's exciting. Okay, But now let's talk about this 0:11:08.125 --> 0:11:11.925 week's movie, which producer Sam and I defer to him. 0:11:12.125 --> 0:11:16.684 The word that I until formally called redo is pronounced 0:11:16.804 --> 0:11:19.085 reducks like the Mighty Ducks. 0:11:19.325 --> 0:11:21.485 You didn't just pronounce it that way. You shoul shamed 0:11:21.525 --> 0:11:23.765 me for saying it the right way I did. 0:11:23.885 --> 0:11:25.925 I called you a fool, and it was I who 0:11:26.005 --> 0:11:31.525 was the fool, much much like Odysseus when he when 0:11:31.605 --> 0:11:34.765 he turned his back on Poseidon and then he got screwed. 0:11:34.845 --> 0:11:36.165 That's how I feel we have. 0:11:36.245 --> 0:11:39.125 There's so many lessons that this film imparts to the 0:11:39.165 --> 0:11:40.525 modern the modern viewer. 0:11:41.005 --> 0:11:44.685 Re Ducks is pronounced re ducks. The word is derived 0:11:44.725 --> 0:11:49.045 from Latin, meaning brought back or returning, much like Odysseus 0:11:49.085 --> 0:11:53.405 coming back from true. Oh, Mike, go the first The 0:11:53.445 --> 0:11:57.645 first syllable sounds like rea in the second rhymes with ducks, So. 0:11:57.845 --> 0:12:01.645 The listeners can't hear me. Hear me doing it. But 0:12:01.684 --> 0:12:04.045 I wonder if the mic is picking up me rubbing 0:12:04.085 --> 0:12:08.645 my temples violently every time he mentions Odysseus. 0:12:08.205 --> 0:12:10.925 A temple much like the temple to Athena that was 0:12:11.005 --> 0:12:14.564 sacked at Troy when they broke Zeus's law. Those bastards. 0:12:14.605 --> 0:12:16.285 All right, let's get to this review. 0:12:16.564 --> 0:12:20.804 All right, good good, good good. 0:12:21.125 --> 0:12:25.005 Traveling through the multiverse looking for my daughter, you know. 0:12:25.045 --> 0:12:29.364 For around here, no great, neither am I looking. 0:12:29.045 --> 0:12:33.285 For a world for she wasn't kidnapped and murdered. You 0:12:33.325 --> 0:12:36.085 lost your daughter. It was a long time ago. 0:12:36.684 --> 0:12:40.444 She's been dead in all of them. 0:12:39.525 --> 0:12:42.765 So I just keep killing the bastard to. 0:12:42.885 --> 0:12:49.684 This her revenge is an intimate act. No one swears 0:12:49.765 --> 0:12:52.925 revenge because a guy they met once in line at 0:12:53.045 --> 0:12:56.565 stop and shop got mugged. The victim needs to be 0:12:56.605 --> 0:13:00.725 a loved one. It is by definition a family affair, 0:13:01.485 --> 0:13:05.804 and that certainly lends an interesting twist behind the camera 0:13:06.445 --> 0:13:11.165 to Redux, reducts, or, as Jordan likes to call it, redo, Redo. 0:13:11.125 --> 0:13:13.205 Never again, I won't do it again now I. 0:13:13.165 --> 0:13:16.685 Know, which is a high concept combo of sci fi 0:13:16.885 --> 0:13:20.885 film and revenge picture. It was directed by brothers Ca 0:13:21.245 --> 0:13:25.885 and Matthew McManus, and it stars their sister, MICHAELA McManus. 0:13:26.325 --> 0:13:29.965 She plays a woman out for a unique but very 0:13:30.325 --> 0:13:34.125 intimate sort of revenge after her daughter is murdered by 0:13:34.205 --> 0:13:39.684 a sadistic short order cook in a world where technology 0:13:39.804 --> 0:13:44.605 exists that allows people to jump between universes. She sets 0:13:44.605 --> 0:13:49.444 out across the multiverse trying to find a world, any world, 0:13:49.885 --> 0:13:53.645 where her daughter is still alive. She visits countless worlds, 0:13:53.725 --> 0:13:57.045 and in every single one, her daughter is dead. So 0:13:58.005 --> 0:14:02.525 she seeks out said short order cook and kills him, 0:14:03.005 --> 0:14:05.085 and kills him, and kills him and kills him. She 0:14:05.165 --> 0:14:07.365 hops from one universe to the next and repeats this 0:14:07.445 --> 0:14:12.285 process over and over again. Reducs after Reducs after Redo 0:14:12.405 --> 0:14:18.805 after Redo. Now it's an undeniably inventive twist on a 0:14:18.925 --> 0:14:21.405 very familiar sort of film. But Jordan, and here's my 0:14:21.525 --> 0:14:25.565 question for you, do it. Does the filmmaking family in 0:14:25.605 --> 0:14:29.525 this case that made Redux Reducs have the chops to 0:14:29.565 --> 0:14:34.205 live up to their very inventive concept. Or is the 0:14:34.245 --> 0:14:38.205 fact that this familial revenge movie was made by three 0:14:38.245 --> 0:14:42.005 siblings amount to little more than a great sales pitch 0:14:42.085 --> 0:14:43.685 for a so so movie. 0:14:44.005 --> 0:14:48.845 M Okay. My answer to your question, straight up yes 0:14:48.925 --> 0:14:52.765 or no, is Yes. This movie is good and it's 0:14:52.805 --> 0:14:55.645 worth your time, and you have Hulu, so you might 0:14:55.685 --> 0:14:58.165 as well watch it. Anyhow. It's pretty short too, It's 0:14:58.165 --> 0:15:02.325 like ninety seven minutes or so. I would say it's 0:15:02.405 --> 0:15:04.885 not as good as the movie I'm about to mention, 0:15:05.085 --> 0:15:07.685 But it did remind me of it because it's low budget, 0:15:07.965 --> 0:15:12.405 it's pretty smart, and it involves people getting in a box. 0:15:12.685 --> 0:15:15.085 So remind me of Primer a little bit. Did you 0:15:15.085 --> 0:15:16.725 have Primer vibes from the Stora? 0:15:16.885 --> 0:15:20.485 It's hard not to think about Primer if you know 0:15:20.605 --> 0:15:22.805 that film and you watch this one. 0:15:22.925 --> 0:15:25.765 Yes, No, Primer's in a different universe because Primers really 0:15:26.325 --> 0:15:31.165 brainiac movie. Some would say it's similar to Memento in 0:15:31.165 --> 0:15:32.645 the way it's so crazy and you got to think 0:15:32.645 --> 0:15:36.765 about it hard. But this is much more fun, and 0:15:36.805 --> 0:15:40.205 I really like the central character played by the sister McManus. 0:15:40.885 --> 0:15:45.685 And you know, it teases just enough of the world 0:15:45.805 --> 0:15:49.645 that you buy it. But it doesn't you know, it 0:15:49.645 --> 0:15:51.885 doesn't know the It doesn't know how this thing works 0:15:51.885 --> 0:15:54.605 because this thing doesn't exist. Nobody knows how this thing works. 0:15:54.605 --> 0:15:57.085 So it just just tells you enough to buy the premise. 0:15:57.725 --> 0:15:59.965 I thought the lead actress was quite good, but there 0:16:00.005 --> 0:16:02.685 really aren't any stars in this film. There are some 0:16:02.765 --> 0:16:05.365 twists and turns, though when you learn a little bit 0:16:05.365 --> 0:16:08.525 about one of the twists, this isn't giving too much away. 0:16:08.605 --> 0:16:10.485 Is that you just kind of assume, I don't know, Matt, 0:16:10.525 --> 0:16:13.965 maybe you did too. You assume that the movie began 0:16:15.045 --> 0:16:18.285 in our universe, right, like didn't You just kind of assume, like, oh, 0:16:18.405 --> 0:16:20.165 she's popping around, like at the beginning, we see like 0:16:20.165 --> 0:16:22.725 a montage for kill people. But you just assume that 0:16:22.765 --> 0:16:25.805 the initial transgression happened in our universe and she figured 0:16:25.805 --> 0:16:28.485 out a way to move around, and then later it 0:16:28.525 --> 0:16:31.205 kind of dawns. He was like, no, she she grew 0:16:31.285 --> 0:16:35.565 up in some other realm. You know where where sci 0:16:35.605 --> 0:16:39.365 fi googlews exist. And that was a very interesting take. 0:16:39.405 --> 0:16:42.165 I thought that, like, you know, our base of reality 0:16:42.165 --> 0:16:44.485 and her base of reality were different. We don't know 0:16:44.525 --> 0:16:47.005 when she visits our universe, you know, Like I say, 0:16:47.085 --> 0:16:49.285 she kills this guy a lot. It's a little gruesome actually. 0:16:50.645 --> 0:16:53.245 And then there's a nice, you know message to the film, 0:16:53.285 --> 0:16:56.645 which is, you know, eventually, man, you know, hate it'll 0:16:56.685 --> 0:16:57.245 eat you up. 0:16:57.325 --> 0:16:57.565 Man. 0:16:57.725 --> 0:17:01.485 Revenge is you know, is not you know, it's maybe 0:17:01.685 --> 0:17:03.965 not so good that, you know, kill the person who 0:17:04.045 --> 0:17:06.365 killed your daughter once, but don't kill him one hundred 0:17:06.405 --> 0:17:09.685 and eighty five times. But then of course she meets 0:17:09.965 --> 0:17:15.325 someone along her travels who becomes a surrogate daughter to her. Sure, 0:17:15.525 --> 0:17:20.965 and this is where I really hopem debating whether or 0:17:21.085 --> 0:17:23.485 I should bring this up Here goes because when it's 0:17:23.485 --> 0:17:25.445 a low budget movie like this, there's it possibility that 0:17:25.525 --> 0:17:27.525 the people who made this film more important than people 0:17:27.525 --> 0:17:29.925 who were in this film might actually listen to this podcast. 0:17:30.365 --> 0:17:33.244 So here we go. I really like the movie, and 0:17:33.325 --> 0:17:36.525 I think that the young woman who played the surrogate 0:17:36.605 --> 0:17:38.805 daughter as an actress by name is Stella Marcus. I 0:17:38.845 --> 0:17:43.045 think she's very talented. She was miscast in this film. 0:17:43.165 --> 0:17:45.285 This is a low budget movie made in Canada. You 0:17:45.325 --> 0:17:47.285 know they you know Canada. I mean, come on, they 0:17:47.285 --> 0:17:52.365 barely have running water up there, so what they I'm 0:17:52.445 --> 0:17:55.845 making a joke. So it's a low budget film from Canada. 0:17:56.005 --> 0:17:57.765 So they made they went to the war with the 0:17:57.885 --> 0:18:00.405 army they had, right, So they cast this young woman 0:18:00.445 --> 0:18:04.885 who was good. But she's supposed to be like, you know, 0:18:05.725 --> 0:18:09.605 a tough chick from the streets, and she's seen a 0:18:09.645 --> 0:18:13.285 lot and done a lot. And this this actress, young woman, 0:18:13.845 --> 0:18:16.205 she looks not like that. You know. It's just it 0:18:16.285 --> 0:18:19.925 just was not the right casting, and it did bother me. 0:18:20.045 --> 0:18:22.965 Normally I just roll with it. I suspend my disbelief, like, 0:18:23.005 --> 0:18:25.925 oh yeah, right, she doesn't look like like she's had 0:18:25.925 --> 0:18:29.245 it too rough, but okay, I really had a hard 0:18:29.285 --> 0:18:33.365 time buying her in this role. Young, young, young Stella. 0:18:33.445 --> 0:18:35.445 The next movie you're in, when you're gonna get cast 0:18:35.565 --> 0:18:38.405 in something more appropriate, you're gonna shine, You're gonna be great. 0:18:38.445 --> 0:18:40.285 You got a great career ahead of you. And to 0:18:40.365 --> 0:18:43.245 the directors that put her in the film, I'm sure 0:18:43.285 --> 0:18:46.125 she was the best you saw. So nothing you can do. 0:18:46.645 --> 0:18:48.765 This was for me a little bit of a It 0:18:48.805 --> 0:18:51.445 did bother me, Like I'm like, every time she's on screen, 0:18:51.485 --> 0:18:53.085 I'm going ash, she's wrong for the part. She's wrong 0:18:53.125 --> 0:18:54.845 for the part. But I still like the movie and 0:18:54.885 --> 0:18:56.925 I really recommend it. Recommend it. Did you feel that 0:18:57.005 --> 0:18:58.645 she wasn't so hot in this in this role? 0:18:58.645 --> 0:19:01.285 Also? I thought she was fine. I think the thing 0:19:01.325 --> 0:19:04.205 that resonated with me from what you said was about 0:19:04.685 --> 0:19:07.925 suspending your disbelief. I didn't necessarily have as much of 0:19:07.965 --> 0:19:10.885 a problem with her, but I think, well, I thought overall, 0:19:11.045 --> 0:19:13.965 I thought it was a pretty well done, you know, 0:19:14.165 --> 0:19:17.525 very low budget movie, and with whatever they had available, 0:19:17.565 --> 0:19:21.245 they did a fine job it. You know, I think 0:19:21.685 --> 0:19:25.485 you can't help but think about Primer, as you mentioned, 0:19:25.525 --> 0:19:28.045 based on the premise, and also like that there's this 0:19:28.205 --> 0:19:31.205 box that is the all important thing that they used, 0:19:31.405 --> 0:19:35.485 you know, instead of time travel, it's it's it's multiversal time, 0:19:35.565 --> 0:19:39.005 you know, dimension jumps. But it is just a big box. 0:19:39.445 --> 0:19:42.365 But the problem with that comparison is like I feel 0:19:42.365 --> 0:19:45.565 like with Primer, a movie that I don't adore, but 0:19:45.645 --> 0:19:47.805 it's like the more you think about Primer, the more 0:19:47.885 --> 0:19:49.725 like it kind of it's like a fun puzzle to 0:19:49.765 --> 0:19:52.485 twist around in your head. And this movie, I think 0:19:52.525 --> 0:19:54.885 the more you think about it, the less you're gonna 0:19:54.885 --> 0:19:57.365 get out of it. It's not that sort of film. 0:19:58.645 --> 0:20:02.925 It's like this box, right, the box. The box winds 0:20:03.005 --> 0:20:07.525 up in vans, it winds up in in in hotel rooms, 0:20:08.205 --> 0:20:10.565 and there are times and there are times where it's 0:20:10.565 --> 0:20:13.085 like it like lands in like the middle of the street. 0:20:13.285 --> 0:20:14.445 Right, and we got it. 0:20:14.885 --> 0:20:16.965 We got to get this thing. This thing must weigh 0:20:17.045 --> 0:20:20.965 six thousand pounds. And these two women, how are the 0:20:21.205 --> 0:20:22.925 lifting it? How are they moving? And how do they 0:20:23.005 --> 0:20:26.685 get anywhere? And you know you mentioned that you kind 0:20:26.685 --> 0:20:31.405 of expected that, Okay, well this movie is she must 0:20:31.405 --> 0:20:35.965 have started in our world. Yeah, and somehow it started 0:20:36.045 --> 0:20:38.405 jumping around, found this device or whatever. And we really 0:20:38.445 --> 0:20:41.244 don't get a ton of information about this this what 0:20:41.285 --> 0:20:45.645 did you call it? A gigga googaw? Yeah, a googaw. 0:20:45.965 --> 0:20:48.365 That's one of the big competitors to Bazouga. We haven't 0:20:48.405 --> 0:20:51.405 talked about it before, but it's it's another it's an 0:20:51.485 --> 0:20:54.525 up and comer in the streaming space is Googaw. But 0:20:55.645 --> 0:20:59.085 what we as you mentioned, like you sort of eventually realize, well, no, 0:20:59.365 --> 0:21:03.485 she's from a much different place that has incredible technology. 0:21:04.005 --> 0:21:06.565 But every other universe that we see in this movie 0:21:06.965 --> 0:21:10.245 looks exactly like our world, right, so there's there every 0:21:10.325 --> 0:21:13.245 universe looks like ours except the one that she comes from, 0:21:13.245 --> 0:21:15.565 which apparently is like a sci fi paraise. 0:21:15.765 --> 0:21:17.805 Like I was thinking that too, that it was like, 0:21:18.005 --> 0:21:20.565 there should be like one time where she jumps and 0:21:20.765 --> 0:21:23.845 it rains donuts, like on the Simpsons episode where Homer 0:21:23.965 --> 0:21:25.085 went to the donut raining. 0:21:25.285 --> 0:21:28.085 Now you could say I am nitpicking, and you're probably right, 0:21:28.125 --> 0:21:30.845 but my point is this movie works best sort of 0:21:30.925 --> 0:21:33.405 only at the sort of we're using this as an 0:21:33.445 --> 0:21:36.245 excuse to tell like an emotional story. Yeah, and I 0:21:36.365 --> 0:21:39.405 make on that level, yes, And on that level it works, 0:21:39.485 --> 0:21:42.405 and I thought it was effective. Yeah, And it is 0:21:42.445 --> 0:21:46.325 a smart use of like multi versus to tell a 0:21:46.365 --> 0:21:49.845 story about grief and about trauma and all those sorts 0:21:49.885 --> 0:21:54.645