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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lollie. He is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. It's a beautiful Monday here in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 3: It is nice weekend. I hope everybody had a great weekend.

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Speaker 2: We get the fourth of July coming up on Thursday,

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Speaker 2: so it's kind of a holiday week here.

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Speaker 3: It makes it a little weird with the fourth of

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Speaker 3: July right in the middle of the week.

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Speaker 4: It's really strange. You know, I was just sick of

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Speaker 4: Monday or you know. But it doesn't work that way.

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Speaker 4: It ends up on the fourth day of July on every.

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Speaker 2: Year, well eight or so years because the leap here.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, so we're now into July. Well we are

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Speaker 2: happy July.

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Speaker 4: July. First, I think it's Bobby Benia Day.

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Speaker 3: By the way, it is Bobby Bania.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a noteworthy July.

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Speaker 3: The worst deal ever concocted, Well, that all stemmed from

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Speaker 3: the Bernie Maddoff stuff because the Mets were event Yeah,

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Speaker 3: the Mets were heavily invested with Bernie Mattoff in his

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Speaker 3: pyramid scheme and lost a bunch of money and couldn't

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Speaker 3: afford to pay.

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Speaker 4: Is that how that works? We want to pay you

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Speaker 4: forever and ever and ever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, instead of paying you this lump sum now which

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Speaker 2: we can't afford, okay, I'll just give you a million

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Speaker 2: dollars for the next you know, twenty five years.

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Speaker 4: And a million bucks on July first, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 4: Isn't what it used to be, but I'd take it still.

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Speaker 4: It's not bad if you're just what sixty year old

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Speaker 4: Bobby Benia chilling out and then check shows up everywhere.

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Speaker 3: Money, Yeah, not so bad.

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Speaker 2: Uh So, Matt, I'm looking here, and once again, this

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Speaker 2: is the list time of year here.

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Speaker 4: It is so not a lot happened in the league.

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Speaker 4: It's pretty quiet, Yeah, very quiet right now. No way

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Speaker 4: to candy coat that. So.

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Speaker 2: Gennaro Felice has put together his top ten offenses for

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four on NFL dot Com, and I wanted

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Speaker 2: to go over this and see it. You know, first

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Speaker 2: of all, here's when people start talking about you need

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Speaker 2: to average twenty five points a game, where you need

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Speaker 2: to do this and whatever. The Steelers do need to

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Speaker 2: score more, of course, of course no ifans are bus about.

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Speaker 3: It, nineteen points a game isn't good enough. But listen

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Speaker 3: to the scoring averages for the top ten scoring offenses.

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Speaker 4: From last year.

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Speaker 2: From last year, okay, Number ten was Cleveland at twenty

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Speaker 2: two point one points per game.

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Speaker 4: It's not a crazy number, twenty two point one, right,

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Speaker 4: I mean the league is trending down this way.

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Speaker 3: Number nine was New Orleans at twenty two point four.

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Speaker 4: Exactly a juggernut offense.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, the Rams at twenty three point five, the

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Speaker 2: Eagles at twenty four point one.

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Speaker 3: The Bills were at twenty five point three.

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Speaker 4: Fire defensive coordinator halfway.

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Speaker 2: Right, the Lions twenty six point six, the Cowboys twenty seven. Even,

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Speaker 2: the Dolphins were twenty seven point five. And that was

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Speaker 2: with a seventy point output.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, true, one big monster, crazy game.

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Speaker 3: Take that one out of the equation. That's about a

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Speaker 3: couple spots. Yeah, more than a couple could think about it.

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Speaker 3: So you play seventeen games, take seventy five divided by set.

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Speaker 3: You look at it like six points a game, five

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Speaker 4: Different just from that one one game, right, Not that

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Speaker 4: they weren't a good offense. No, but they should be

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Speaker 4: mean amongst the leaders.

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Speaker 2: Take that one out and they'll probably fall down to

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Speaker 2: six or lower.

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Speaker 4: And it's obviously a one off type of game. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Denver in the fourth quarter was not real interesting, rightmore

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Speaker 4: and a chan's running forty yards.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're to throw a deep touchdown passes to Cedric

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Speaker 2: fourth quarter that one. Then you have Baltimore at twenty

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Speaker 2: seven point five and San Francisco at twenty eight point four.

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Speaker 2: Twenty eight point four points per game led the NFL

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Speaker 4: That has to be the lowest in some time.

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Speaker 2: Well, the Chiefs were right around there last year, two

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Speaker 4: I know this isn't where we're going, and they weren't

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Speaker 4: on this list anywhere. No, the Chiefs were down this

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Speaker 4: year and very few big plays. So three teams in

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Speaker 4: the league threw fewer passes than the Steelers last year.

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Speaker 4: It was the tight and the top two teams on

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Speaker 4: last year were run run, run, run, run, right, and.

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Speaker 2: That was also Baltimore doing that without Lamar running as.

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Speaker 4: Much exactly exactly. So, yeah, he's a running quarterback, but

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Speaker 4: not the levels he had been. Right, So you can

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Speaker 4: get there by being a running team, I guess, is

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Speaker 3: I mean, Detroit's a pretty balanced off.

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Speaker 4: They are too, yeah, I mean, so's Miami, right, I

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Speaker 4: mean they really are. They have multiple backs, but they

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Speaker 4: run the ball a lot.

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Speaker 3: The Eagles run the ball a lot.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and they went out and got a

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Speaker 2: The Rams they've turned into a running team team. You know,

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Speaker 2: they saw that when they played the Steelers last year.

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Speaker 4: Tyrol Williams got a lot of touches. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So I do think that balance is the key there. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and then making plays in the passing game when they're available.

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Speaker 4: Without question, without question. But I do think it's notable.

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Speaker 4: It's not just throw every down. It's not Dan fouts,

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Speaker 4: you know, I meant just throw every down to be

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Speaker 2: I mean, really, if you look at the teams that

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Speaker 2: they're heavy pass, they're heavy pass. Buffalo is heavy pass. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but they started with the coordinator change.

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Speaker 4: They made a coordinator change.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean if by and large those teams

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Speaker 4: Were more balanced and or maybe.

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Speaker 3: Fifty five forty five something along.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, And it's not even a percentage thing

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Speaker 4: I would say, but just what's your identity? And Baltimore

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Speaker 4: in San Francisco is running the football and the top

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Speaker 2: The list, absolutely, they start looking at how many of

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Speaker 2: those teams use fullbacks and things of that nature.

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Speaker 3: Certainly the top.

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Speaker 4: Two, Yeah they do, I mean more than anybody. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: So I think there's just not just spread it out

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Speaker 2: I think there's a misnomer out there that to your point,

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Speaker 2: that you have to throw the ball to score a

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Speaker 4: It's not the case. And the other thing that those

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Speaker 4: two teams do and a lot of these teams do too.

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Speaker 4: It's a big trend I've been talking about thinking about.

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Speaker 4: I think we're going to hear more about is attacking linebackers.

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Speaker 4: You know, I mean like there's a linebacker shortage. I

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Speaker 4: mean this is almost a whole segment itself. There's a

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Speaker 4: linebacker shortage and all of a sudden, the Steelers aren't

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Speaker 4: one of those teams that have a shortage, right, and

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Speaker 4: their offensive coordinator, with the usage of fullbacks and tight

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Speaker 4: ends and things, are going to have a lot of

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Speaker 4: opposing linebackers on the field, right, Like, Yeah, the Chiefs

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Speaker 4: or the Diners have green Law and Warner. Green Law's hurt,

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Speaker 4: but few teams have two, let alone three linebackers they

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Speaker 4: can put on the field that are amongst their best

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Speaker 4: eleven defenders. Yeah, and I think that's what you want

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Speaker 4: to happen, is attack these linebackers because there aren't that

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Speaker 4: many good ones in the league right now. Yeah. Raven's

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Speaker 4: great at it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a very valid point.

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Speaker 2: So he looks at the teams he thinks are going

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Speaker 2: to finish in the top ten this year. Okay, we

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Speaker 2: have San Francisco number one. I don't think I can

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Speaker 2: fight that they'll be in that top five somewhere.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's very little change. Yeah, I mean they've actually

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Speaker 4: added weapons if anything.

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Speaker 3: At number two. Kansas City, who weren't in the top

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Speaker 3: ten last year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was. I would not have them outside the

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Speaker 4: top ten though. Yeah, I mean Mahomes has a truant

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Speaker 4: track record. They their tackles aren't great, but they look

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Speaker 4: at you know, at least there's some answers there. You

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Speaker 4: added some serious speed with Brown and Worthy. They should

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Speaker 4: be back in the mix for sure. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Since they drafted Patrick Mahomes in twenty seventeen, the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: averaged twenty seven point one points per game. No, I

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Speaker 2: remember he didn't play played one game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the year.

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Speaker 3: That's two points better than the next closest team, which

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Speaker 4: And that's better than anyone last year.

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Speaker 3: Right, twenty seven point one. No, that would be behind, be.

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Speaker 4: Behind San fran Yeah, okay, but you'd be amongst the

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Speaker 4: league leaders every year at that number. But basically doesn't

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Speaker 3: They finished fourteenth last year in scoring at twenty one

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Speaker 4: And amount one hundred percent sure why, I mean, yes,

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Speaker 4: the big plays were down. Mahomes's numbers weren't as staggering

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Speaker 4: as they were. They're still pretty good.

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Speaker 3: Offense, Yeah, but it was more of a ball control

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Speaker 3: it was.

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Speaker 4: It was.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Number three is Detroit.

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Speaker 4: I don't think they're going away anytime soon.

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Speaker 3: They might be my dark horse for number one. For

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Speaker 3: number one this.

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Speaker 4: Year, especially if Jamis and Williams James and William Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's a big wild card to me.

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Speaker 3: I think they'll they'll mix the two running backs in

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Speaker 3: better this year.

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Speaker 1: I guess.

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Speaker 3: I think you'll see a little bit more Gibbs. You're

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Speaker 3: still gonna see Mammy closing out games and doing stuff

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Speaker 3: like that.

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Speaker 4: But it was a great backfield last year. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think they'll have any fear about.

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Speaker 4: Gibbs minor ro line changes. You just paid your quarterback

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Speaker 4: and your number one receiver. Laporta is even a year older. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think I would put him over the Chiefs maybe, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: especially based off last year too.

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Speaker 3: Four he has the rams.

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Speaker 4: I would assume that a lot of that is if

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Speaker 4: you could have Cup in the kupa healthy together for

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Speaker 4: a stretch, and you still have the running game. You know,

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Speaker 4: they invested heavily in guards. I think they're gonna be

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Speaker 4: a power running game in Stafford ripping up single coverage.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if they be my top five though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Stafford's getting up in age. Can you

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Speaker 2: can you stay healthy the whole time? That's gonna be

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Speaker 2: a big key for them.

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Speaker 4: McVeigh Harry's wait though, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Five is Cincinnati.

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Speaker 4: I would say the Bengals would be the top ten team,

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Speaker 4: not from last year that I would definitely have the

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Speaker 4: top ten. Yeah, I expect Chase to have a gigantic year.

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Speaker 3: And number seven is Green Bay.

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Speaker 2: Eight is Buffalo, and I don't know about that one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Number nine is Houston.

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Speaker 4: You not mentioned Dallas yet, correct, I've not who you said.

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Speaker 4: I'm fine with Houston. They had a lot of O

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Speaker 2: And then number ten and I don't agree with this one.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I don't think i'd have them over the Eagles

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Speaker 4: I mean, I still think the Ravens score more points

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Speaker 2: You know, you can see a lot of like Pittman's

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Speaker 4: I can see them. I kind of mentioned this. I

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Speaker 3: Richards and Lassa. He played one hundred and seventy three

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Speaker 4: Absolutely. No, So they would not be in my They'd

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Speaker 3: He's just missed list.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Baltimore sure, I mean they were really good on

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Speaker 3: And then if you do that, the Dak and uh,

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Speaker 4: What do we shop?

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Speaker 3: Liverho right?

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Speaker 4: Right? How do you prioritize that? If you're Jerry Jones,

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Speaker 3: The only thing that concerns me is Kellen Moore.

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't understand how he continues to get

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Speaker 2: broadcast as being this great upcoming Yeah, the Dallas. At

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Speaker 4: And frankly, if if he doesn't do it with that group,

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Speaker 2: Steel I'm gonna go on record now, the Steelers will

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Speaker 4: Like I love that they're gonna pour the foundation of

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Speaker 3: That doesn't happen overnight.

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Speaker 4: No, you can't replace fifty three guys and totally change

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Speaker 3: Not when you had to cut guys just to get

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Speaker 3: Nathaniel Hackett's calling me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not big on that either. It seems crazy,

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Speaker 3: But even if it's if they have to turn things

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Speaker 4: No, they won't. They won't anyone else come to mind, Atlanta.

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Speaker 4: Maybe they got a line, they got weapons, Yeah, they

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Speaker 2: That's a different when people talk about the Steelers, Well,

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Speaker 2: the idea in like twenty fifteen, when the Steelers defense

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Speaker 2: Basically they all got old and aged out. Well now

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Speaker 2: you had to score. Well, now you don't have to

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Speaker 4: And this goes back to Tomlin. He knows that, you

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Speaker 2: That was always like when people were talking about you're

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Speaker 3: You got to score or.

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Speaker 2: You have to go in Arrowhead, I should say, and

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Speaker 3: Well, no, you didn't last year.

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Speaker 3: Can you your defense come up with a stop?

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Speaker 3: Creat When the Bengals beat them to.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they got some stops at the end of the game.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's all you can ask for.

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Speaker 2: The problem was that the offense didn't do anything with it.

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Speaker 3: the game, they played too much defense. Then they played

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Speaker 3: too much.

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Speaker 2: They were on the field for too much because the

447
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Speaker 2: offense wasn't good enough.

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Speaker 4: To even get first out.

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Speaker 3: But the idea that you had to go score thirty,

450
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Speaker 3: that's the misnomer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah right, right, yeah, don't play too much defense.

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Speaker 2: If you score thirty and ran, you know, and on

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Speaker 2: four possessions or five, you know, because you did get

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Speaker 2: a defensive touchdown. So if he had if it was

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Speaker 2: four possessions of offense and you scored thirty points because

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Speaker 2: you got a defensive score, oh yeah, great, fantastic.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's cherry on top.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I'd have to go back and pay attention more to

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Speaker 4: the Bengal Chief game where Cincinnati one. But everyone said,

461
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Speaker 4: you know, Louma Marumo had still had tricks in his

462
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Speaker 4: bag because the defense wasn't out there for right sixteens.

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Speaker 3: Your offense was controlling the clock.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that he had more tricks than any

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Speaker 4: other defensive coordinator. He was able to use them.

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Speaker 3: It's the same thing that people you should talk about

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Speaker 3: with Brady.

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Speaker 2: You want to get him into a situation where he's

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Speaker 2: looking at you know, it's a fourth quarter and he

470
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Speaker 2: looks up and is down two scores and their defense

471
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Speaker 2: can't get a stop.

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Speaker 3: And so now he starts counting off the minutes.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I got I got two possessions here, but I'm

474
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Speaker 2: only going to have seven minutes.

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Speaker 4: Right, I got to score twice, averaging three and a

476
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Speaker 4: half per you like, Eh, Then it gets tough. And then,

477
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Speaker 4: especially with a guy like him, maybe he plays I

478
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Speaker 4: his comfort zone a little bit, doesn't take the check down,

479
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Speaker 4: ball gets tipped whatever, you know, I mean, no matter

480
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Speaker 4: what I mean. Stopping these elite quarterbacks late in the

481
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Speaker 4: game in the playoffs. It's really hard, really hard. Ye.

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Speaker 3: Of course they will figure things out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, especially with great coaches behind.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 4: Let's get to a break conversation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he is the Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lollie. You're

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Speaker 3: listening to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back with more right after this.

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven Home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolli.

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Speaker 2: He is the Matt Williamson and Matt I'm looking here

494
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Speaker 2: at the thirty third team and they've been doing some

495
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Speaker 2: rankings top ten positions all time kind of thing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I noticed.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw the one that they

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Speaker 3: put out today.

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Speaker 4: I did, and I had one huge problem with it.

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Speaker 3: I thought you might.

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Speaker 4: And frankly, I'm going to do a podcast Wednesday morning

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Speaker 4: with the author and I'm going to give him a earfold.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Marcus Mosher the author here and.

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Speaker 4: Mostly these have been quite good, by the way. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and they're not easy.

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Speaker 2: No, it's I mean, picking ten guys at one position

507
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Speaker 2: time all the time is ridiculously hard. But cornerback here,

508
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Speaker 2: the Steelers have had some pretty high profile yea.

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Speaker 4: And there's a local kid that I had some interaction

510
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Speaker 4: with too, who's on this list not a Steeler.

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Speaker 3: So at number ten he has Richard Sherman.

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Speaker 4: That doesn't break my heart. Like I think any of

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Speaker 4: the ten names were egregious, but I just think there's

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Speaker 4: one that is egregiously off there, and we'll get to

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Speaker 4: do it.

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Speaker 3: But there might be a little bit of recency bias, of.

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Speaker 4: Course, of course. And I actually don't have a problem

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Speaker 4: with any of these type of lists favoring the more

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Speaker 4: recent guys. You know, the two hundred and fifty pound

520
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Speaker 4: guard versus Larry Allen's a little bit dominant.

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Speaker 3: Your dominant.

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Speaker 4: If you're dominant, I you're dominant, and you've got to.

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Speaker 3: Take the air into account.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, yeah, Sherman to me, is okay in the

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Speaker 4: top ten. I mean there might be a name or

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Speaker 4: two I'd bump him four.

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Speaker 3: I can think of one.

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Speaker 4: Well, we're gonna harp on that, and that guy wouldn't

529
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Speaker 4: be a.

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Speaker 3: Ten, right, okay, right, he'd be in top three. But

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Speaker 3: number nine is Willy Brown.

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Speaker 4: Which brings us to the player that mel Blunt is

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Speaker 4: on the list.

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Speaker 3: Mel Blunt is not on this top ten.

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Speaker 4: List, right, and this is at least the same era.

536
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Speaker 4: You know, Willy Brown. Yeah, I can't break down Willy

537
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Speaker 4: Brown's game from an all twenty two scouting perspective. By

538
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Speaker 4: all stretch, he was great. Give me forty seven all

539
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Speaker 4: day long. They changed the rules.

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Speaker 3: Yeah because of mel Blunt.

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Speaker 4: Any one defensive MVP. Yes, I mean I did something

542
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Speaker 4: not long ago, still on YouTube, you can find it somewhere.

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Speaker 4: It's like a five minute thing where I make a

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Speaker 4: case for mel Blunt being the second greatest deeler ever,

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Speaker 4: I mean behind seventy five. Yeah, I stand by it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Number eight Aneas Williams vastly underrated career. I mean I

548
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Speaker 4: think if he played.

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Speaker 2: Anybody Cardinals, yeah right right, people know more about him.

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Speaker 4: I can't remember if he's on this list or not,

551
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Speaker 4: but Green from Washington's another one like that. I mean

552
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Speaker 4: he played on some better teams than the Nias Williams. Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Number seven Champ Bailey.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's legit. I mean he really well

555
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Speaker 4: known for getting traded for Clinton Portis, which was a

556
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Speaker 4: trade it would never happened today. But he was a

557
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Speaker 4: lockdown man coverage player and an elite dude. That was

558
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Speaker 4: an elite prospect that never wavered. Twelve time Pro bowler.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just a.

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Speaker 4: Quick note since we're talking Steelers. I don't know that

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Speaker 4: he should be there, but Patrick Peterson isn't far from

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Speaker 4: this list.

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Speaker 3: No he's not.

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Speaker 4: He's not on it, but he's I mean he should

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Speaker 4: be in consideration.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Number six is Charles Woodson. Okay, Now, I think Charles

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Speaker 2: Woodson's best years as a player came at safety.

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Speaker 4: And say, I didn't read the right upside. Just scrolled

570
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Speaker 4: through it this morning, and I was sitting there thinking

571
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Speaker 4: to myself, at what age did he switch? And I

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Speaker 4: didn't remember.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'll look that up here as we do this,

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Speaker 2: because the Football Reference will probably.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he was really good at both, and I

576
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Speaker 4: have no problem.

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Speaker 3: We're doing defensive backs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I get it, yep.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know that he I don't think I

580
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Speaker 2: ever considered him an elite cornerback.

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Speaker 4: I was. I think I think of him more as

582
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Speaker 4: a safety bucket. So I don't know what side.

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Speaker 2: So he made the switch in twenty eleven, so he

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Speaker 2: played from ninety eight to twenty eleven. But here's the thing. Okay,

585
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Speaker 2: he only as a cornerback. He was only All Pro

586
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Speaker 2: three times.

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Speaker 4: Okay with the Raiders. I was assume before he went

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Speaker 4: to that was.

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Speaker 3: Once with the Raiders in ninety nine and then twice

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Speaker 3: with Green Bay.

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Speaker 4: Okay, what year did he switch to Green Bay? He

592
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Speaker 4: was drafted the Peyton Manning draft.

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Speaker 3: Green Bay came. He made a move in two thousand

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Speaker 3: and six at age thirty.

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Speaker 4: Okay, well, maybe play more corner than I thought then.

596
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Speaker 3: But there were some I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, two of those years in two thousand

598
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Speaker 2: and two he played eight games. In two thousand and

599
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Speaker 2: five he played six games. So there's a couple of

600
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Speaker 2: years there with a long I know, there's a long,

601
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Speaker 2: a long career.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, A couple of those years were you know, there's

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Speaker 2: a year after he made the switch to safety in

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Speaker 2: twenty twelve, he only played seven games.

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Speaker 4: M Okay, I don't remember that super well, but.

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Speaker 2: I just look at that and I'm like, you know,

608
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Speaker 2: I get he were He was Defensive Player of the

609
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Speaker 2: Year in two thousand and nine when he had nine

610
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Speaker 2: you know, he led the league with nine interceptions of

611
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Speaker 2: three touchdowns as a cornerback and.

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Speaker 4: Say, it's pretty rare for any defensive act. The defense

613
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Speaker 4: player did that, they blunted it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, right, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I yeah, I mean I don't have a real problem

616
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Speaker 4: with it. But I did associate him more as a

617
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Speaker 4: safety than corner. Maybe it's just because my age, you know. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Number five Dick Knight train lane.

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Speaker 4: A little before my time, but sounded like a game

620
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Speaker 4: changer if you.

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Speaker 2: Talked to Dick Lebo. Yeah, yeah, that was absolutely legit.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I mean again, I'm not going to fight him

623
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Speaker 4: on that. Yeah.

624
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he had some ridiculous interception He had fourteen interceptions

625
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Speaker 2: in twelve games with the Rams.

626
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Speaker 4: Interceptions were easier to come by back then, they put

627
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Speaker 4: the ball in arms way more. Yeah. But still, I

628
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Speaker 4: mean he's an all time great and all time legend. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: They've been both played together quite a bit.

630
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Speaker 3: Another year with ten interceptions, he had six seasons with

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Speaker 3: at least five.

632
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Speaker 4: I mean his highlights or he's an tackler, I mean,

633
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Speaker 4: he's not soft players.

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Speaker 2: Sixty eight career interceptions as a cornerback, Like wow, yeah, yeah,

635
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Speaker 2: that's that's pretty legit.

636
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Speaker 3: Number four Darrelle Revis.

637
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he's easily a top five guy, and

638
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Speaker 4: in an era where it wasn't easy to be a

639
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Speaker 4: lockdown Revis Island type player, he was elite and the

640
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Speaker 4: best for more than four or five years, which is

641
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Speaker 4: a huge phase. I mean, if you're the best for

642
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Speaker 4: more than three or four years, that's big time. That's

643
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Speaker 4: Aaron Donald, you know.

644
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Speaker 3: Number three. Mike Haynes, I don't.

645
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Speaker 4: Know problem of being in the top ten at all.

646
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Speaker 4: I mean he was a very sticky Patriot turned Raiders.

647
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Speaker 4: I mean I used to get a kick out of

648
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Speaker 4: him and Lester Hayes. Lester Hayes being on the other side.

649
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 4: They were man.

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Speaker 3: Covering a sticky too.

651
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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, that's why he said that term. I mean,

652
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Speaker 4: especially Lester. I mean he says, stick them.

653
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 3: Coat the ball sticks to his jersey. Is it's quarterback?

654
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Speaker 2: It's a amazing that was ever legal, right, I mean,

655
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 2: is it that different than the gloves?

656
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 4: Though? Well, I just mean, like it gets on the

657
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Speaker 4: ball and then if I'm the quarterback and I got

658
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Speaker 4: to deal with the running back has to deal with

659
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Speaker 4: the next play, like they can't clean it off, you know,

660
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 4: like keep your gunk to yourself, you know, but I

661
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Speaker 4: don't know problem with him being that high. Two is

662
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 4: Rod Woodson great? I mean I don't think that's any

663
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Speaker 4: kind of slight on Rod or anybody.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then one's Deon Sanders.

665
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Speaker 4: Again, I think most people would probably have d on

666
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Speaker 4: number one, and I honestly don't have a problem with it.

667
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Speaker 4: I think Blunt is in the top three.

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Speaker 3: G at worst, I think Blunt is probably be my one.

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Speaker 2: I think I would yell at Marcus Mosher as well, like,

670
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 2: how do you not have that guy on your list

671
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Speaker 2: of cornerbacks?

672
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Speaker 4: I can't think of any other egregious errors. Well, you

673
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 4: mentioned Darryl Green Green, but you see a lot better

674
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 4: than Sherman. Maybe my problem with Richard Sherman being on there.

675
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 4: And again, he's a good, good cornerback. Of course, nobody

676
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 4: ever asked him to play man and man to say

677
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 4: tons of zone.

678
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just straight zone. That's like putting to Shae.

679
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: I mean nothing again, nothing against the Shae Townsend and

680
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 2: Richard Sherman was a far better version of Shae Townsend.

681
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 2: But your zone cornerback, yeah, that'd be like putting Ronde

682
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 2: Barber on here.

683
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 4: And he also had Earl Thomas to his inside in

684
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 4: a really good pass rush, and I mean that it

685
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 4: doesn't detract from him. I mean my hunch is, if

686
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 4: you ask the legion of Boomers, kind of like Lebo

687
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 4: with Lane, who's the most valuable guys we have? I

688
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 4: bet Earl Thomas would be one, maybe Wagner two. Sherman

689
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 4: might be three or four. They might have picked like

690
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 4: Bennett or one of the pass rushers. Yeah, I just

691
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 4: wasn't asked to do super hard stuff.

692
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 2: When it fell off, when he couldn't run anymore, and

693
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 2: he didn't run well to begin with, it was done.

694
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Speaker 4: It was done. He reminds me a little bit of

695
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 4: nond awesome one because if you remember with him, he

696
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 4: did the same thing with the Raiders, there's all that

697
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 4: cover three. No one ever threw on him. He was

698
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 4: a star, he was big, He was a lot. Sherman

699
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 4: and then becomes a free agent. The Eagles give him

700
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 4: a ton of money to go play man and he

701
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 4: gets torn up, you know, like square PEG's round hole.

702
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 4: Doesn't mean Sherman could have never done it, but there

703
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 4: might be a reason they never tried.

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00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a reason why Richard Sherman was a late

705
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 2: draft pick. I think he was a fifth rounder.

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00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 4: Yeah.

707
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, he didn't run well and he was his own cornerback. Yep,

708
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 3: that's what he was.

709
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 4: I think he was a wide out turned corner at Stanford. Yeah,

710
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 4: late in the problem says too. Yeah, I mean was smart,

711
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 4: you know, I mean he knew the game well, he

712
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 4: knew his limitations.

713
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Speaker 2: But that doesn't make him one of the top ten

714
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Speaker 2: cornerbacks of all time. Again, if we're talking top ten

715
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Speaker 2: cornerbacks into two thousands, I got no problem with him

716
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Speaker 2: being on there.

717
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Speaker 4: Yeah. Oh no, I hear you. I'm just scanning my brain.

718
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Speaker 4: Is there anyone else that are noticeable exceptions? Yeah? No,

719
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 4: one's really jumping off the page too, mean blunts a

720
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 4: massive over oversight.

721
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm racking my own brain here.

722
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Speaker 4: Just yeah, I'm just going team by team in my head.

723
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Speaker 4: Who's some of the start again, I think Darryl here

724
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 4: pretty good. I mean you talk about speed and big playability,

725
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 4: take the ball away, difficult assignments as well. Yeah, I

726
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 4: mean it's pretty good. I'm just even thinking in recent history,

727
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 4: guys don't have the longevity they use, they disposition. I mean,

728
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 4: it's very volatile year to year and that's just not

729
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 4: because Pro Football Focus tells us that it's just it's

730
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 4: not easy to maintain top five corner standards. Has anyone

731
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 4: really done that since Revus?

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Speaker 3: I don't think, not really nothing near to year. It's

733
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Speaker 3: just volatile.

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00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 4: Jalen Ramsey is not in that old neighborhood now. I

735
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 4: mean he was a little too up and down and

736
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 4: change teams a lot. REVS did there for a while too. Yeah.

737
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 4: Not a terrible list, one awful oversight.

738
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Speaker 3: One just atrocious over something.

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Speaker 2: Just I've read through the listen like I mean, it goes,

740
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 2: you know, in descending order, and I'm like, yeah, okay,

741
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: well top three has got to be Blunt, Woodson gott

742
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: to be And I'm like, where's Blunt.

743
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 3: He's not on there anywhere.

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00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just think the same thing, like when there's

745
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 4: only two spots for Woodson, Dion and Blunt, something's got

746
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 4: to give here. And honestly, any of the three could

747
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 4: have been left off. I've been equally shocked. Yeah right,

748
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Yeah, like they all should be,

749
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 4: they should be the top three to be.

750
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Speaker 3: I mean i'd be like ranking his centers and not

751
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 3: having Dawson and.

752
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 4: Webster, right. I mean, this is an unanswerable question, but

753
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 4: I think it's one you could answer better than me.

754
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 4: Would you take Blunt over Woodson? I mean Woodson had

755
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 4: to be one of the best Steelers you ever covered.

756
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw Rod play a lot, so that I

757
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 2: mean that that makes a big difference.

758
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's.

759
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 4: Not like blunting of anyone around it.

760
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 3: And I saw I saw Blunt play as well.

761
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 4: But I mean it's hard to get better than Woods.

762
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 3: They change the rules to the game, not just not

763
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 3: just a minor rule change, like a game changing. Oh,

764
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 3: this is going to open up the offenses thing, because

765
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 3: guys are getting killed by this guy.

766
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean some of my arguments for him too

767
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 4: were he was Lambert size. Yeah. I mean for people

768
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 4: you mel Blunt today, hes the camp every year and

769
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 4: blown away.

770
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 3: I won't say that, you know, I know people. Well,

771
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 3: he looks like you can still play today. He doesn't

772
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 3: look like or something. But he is a massive human being.

773
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 3: And I can't imagine being a wide receiver. I'm six

774
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 3: to one, yeah, looking at one, I got to get

775
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 3: opening as this guy.

776
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 4: But the physicality and the long arms, and I mean

777
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 4: some of his tackles, then you were allowed to do this,

778
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,719
Speaker 4: then you dump receivers on their heads or yeah, they

779
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 4: don't even get off the line of scrimmage. I mean,

780
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 4: that's the thing.

781
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 2: Didn't get off the line of scrimmage because he just

782
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 2: wouldn't let them get off the line of scrimmage.

783
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, like the West Coast offense was revolutionary

784
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 4: because if people don't understand it or know the history

785
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 4: of the world. I mean, like Walsh basically came up

786
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 4: with I'm gonna match my drop back with exactly how

787
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 4: long the route takes to down the tenth of the second.

788
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 4: But if Blunt screws you up, Jerry Rice doesn't get

789
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 4: open on that slant, you know what I mean, Like

790
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 4: that back foot hits the ball comes out. It was

791
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 4: almost impossible to defend. Even feud really good couch.

792
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 2: All these big passing offenses would not have worked. Like

793
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 2: a run and shoot and things of that nation you

794
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 2: can't you couldn't run those against.

795
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 4: No, and he also has the porter downfield. You got

796
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 4: to throw it over him mass back in a big way,

797
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 4: in a big way, I mean like a condor. Yeah, yeah, no,

798
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 4: I mean I think he's probably number one for me. Yeah,

799
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 4: and I probably have Deona Woodson fighting for two.

800
00:33:55,200 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean just a foundational game changing player that.

801
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, he should be on that list. He should be

802
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 4: on that list. Yeah, I'm gonna call Marcus out on

803
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 4: that one. I would fun with it, but I think

804
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 4: anyone on the planet would tell you that he's a

805
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 4: top ten Yeah. I mean, yeah, I wonder if from

806
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 4: Marcus Mosher. But I do urge people to check out

807
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 4: that series. There's some fun ones on there. The tight

808
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 4: Ends were good, and I mean there's a lot of

809
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 4: Steelers obviously represented on all of them.

810
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, they are, and I you know that's why we

811
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 2: kind of haven't gone through them.

812
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 4: It is and a lot of it you can fight over.

813
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of it you can fight over. But

814
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 2: mel Blunt not being on his cornerback be brought up,

815
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 2: brought up. I mean, I just don't stand it. If

816
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 2: you get an explanation on why all years, I'll listen.

817
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 2: I won't agree, right, but I'll listen.

818
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 4: And the other nine or other ten names aren't bad. No,

819
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 4: Like you have you know someone on there that's no good.

820
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 4: I mean, it's I get your list, But no, he's

821
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 4: gonna be.

822
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 2: On especially when I mean he did include some of

823
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 2: the older guys on there.

824
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, it's not just all recents like with

825
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 4: Ty Lobby on your list. They keep racking my brain.

826
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 4: I don't think so, No, I mean he doesn't stand

827
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 4: out to me. He is. I thought he's kind of

828
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 4: a borderline Hall of Fame or two.

829
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't know. Anyways, let's get to

830
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Speaker 2: fan fandom was a twitter over the weekend because Brandon

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Speaker 2: Ayuk was asked, you know, oh boy, he could he

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Speaker 2: see himself if he's not playing for the forty nine ers,

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Speaker 2: who could.

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Speaker 3: He see himself?

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Speaker 2: What Jersey could he see see himself wearing? And he

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Speaker 2: said the Commanders and the Steelers.

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Speaker 4: Really I missed all that. To be honest with that,

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00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 4: I knew there was. It was a little bit out

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Speaker 4: there that he doesn't know if he wants to be

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00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 4: a Niner. I mean, he's taken a lot of this

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Speaker 4: to social media, which I mixed feelings about from his regard,

858
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 4: but it's also one of the players best tools nowadays

859
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Speaker 4: that didn't exist way back when I get it. I mean,

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Speaker 4: if I were him, they would be two teams I'd

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Speaker 4: be extremely interested in. I don't know the kind of

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Speaker 4: power he has to make that happen.

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Speaker 3: That would be none.

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Speaker 4: That's a zero, right zero.

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Speaker 2: The two sides met. Brandon Ayuk met with the forty

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Speaker 2: nine Ers last week. They're not going to give him

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Speaker 2: a new contract, but he's also under contract.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't have any power and they can French I

869
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Speaker 3: tag him next year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that might make him unhappy and cause waves

871
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 4: in the locker room, and he could hold out or

872
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 4: not sign the franchise debo.

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Speaker 2: They did this with Bosa in both instances, both guys

874
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 2: held out until they got a new contract.

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00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 4: Now kind of a T Higgins situation. Yeah, is he

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Speaker 4: going to.

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Speaker 2: Get a new contract from them? Is he willing to

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Speaker 2: sit and start missing game checks?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 4: That's that's a big buck. I mean, I'm just thinking

881
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Speaker 4: about it. Financially, he's a young player that's yes, working

882
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 4: on a first or on a first round contract, but

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Speaker 4: he doesn't have a gazillion in the bank. Toy'll be

884
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 4: able to sit there and lose game checks or even

885
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 4: lose one hundred grand a day on training camp. Stuff

886
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 4: that adds up awfully quick. And you can't wave those

887
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 4: fines and he can't wave him anymore. I don't know.

888
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 4: I I'm not sure what the Niners angle is though,

889
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 4: you like, I know that they want to win it

890
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 4: this year and they want everyone on board to do it.

891
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 4: I also think that they don't love the debo contract

892
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 4: they signed, But I don't think they're going to break

893
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 4: and give them thirty No, you know, before camp or anything.

894
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 3: No, I don't see that happening.

895
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 2: And you know to I mean, he's he's scheduled to

896
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 2: make on the on his fifty year option, fourteen point

897
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 2: one million dollars. I can understand. Yeah, you know, he's

898
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 2: People want to say, well, that's a lot of money,

899
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 2: and it is, it is, but it's half of what

900
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 2: he's worth, right, And when you see all these other

901
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,240
Speaker 2: guys signing these big deals and for him, his career

902
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 2: earnings to this point are twelve point five.

903
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 4: Which is great for me and you and everybody else.

904
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 2: But just to live in the Bay Area, right, that

905
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 2: good point, you know, and you pay California taxes and

906
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 2: all that stuff. And they have a quarterback to sign,

907
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 2: and they get a quarterback to sign, and yeah, so I.

908
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 4: Don't know.

909
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the contract that he'll make this year.

910
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 2: The fourteen point one is more than twice as much

911
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 2: money as he's made it to this point in his career.

912
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 4: So yeah, you're put in that way, it's like that's

913
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,720
Speaker 4: your by far, your best earnings to this point.

914
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 2: And I mean I'm no mathematician here, but fourteen million

915
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 2: over eighteen weeks, probably talking around eight hundred thousand dollars

916
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 2: a week.

917
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 4: You would give up that you would give up to

918
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 4: not play so hypothetical. This is forty nine Ers Nation Radio.

919
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 4: What's your stance? You just hold him out? I mean,

920
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 4: you just wait them out.

921
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 3: I think you're going to afford to Yeah, they drafted

922
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 3: wide receivers. He wants to sit out.

923
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,919
Speaker 4: Okay. We could probably win a lot of games without you, yeah,

924
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 4: but more with you, right, I mean, what if the

925
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 4: Steelers are Washington off to your first round pick.

926
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 3: I just don't see that happening though.

927
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 4: Why.

928
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 2: I just I can't see giving up a first round

929
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 2: pick and then having to pay the player.

930
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 4: Even for Washington, even for Washington, because.

931
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 3: You're paying McLaurin.

932
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 2: And if you make that deal, mclaurin's going to come

933
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 2: to you and say, well, I want that kind of money.

934
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 4: Then, I mean, like there's a lot of that going

935
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 4: on too. Waddle signs now Tyreek makes rumbling, right, and

936
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 4: you know there's a lot of that kind.

937
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 2: If you're the Steelers, then the decision becomes if you're

938
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 2: going to make that deal, if you're a trade for

939
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 2: Brandon Ayuk, you're basically telling George Pickens because you're not

940
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 2: going to pay two of them, probably not, So you're

941
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 2: basically picking Ayuk over Pickings.

942
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 4: So that's I mean, and you don't have a fifth

943
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 4: year option on.

944
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,439
Speaker 3: Picking, and you don't have a fift year option on picking.

945
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 4: I mean you could disranchise them, which would be expensive too,

946
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 4: which would be yeah, right, yeah, it's I was thinking

947
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 4: more for the commander's standpoint too. It is like, sure,

948
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 4: he'd be a great guy for my young quarterback, and

949
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 4: I could be loaded at receiver or maybe not even

950
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 4: trade mclaurins and Steelers, and we've talked about those type

951
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 4: of things. But in terms of team needs coming up,

952
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 4: you know, just like the Steelers might need a quarterback.

953
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 4: Washington's oh line, especially a tackle is really really rough.

954
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 3: They might their first round draft picks should be a

955
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 3: tackle or an edge rusher.

956
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 4: They're like the second and third most expensive things that

957
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 4: you have to draft in first round, right after you

958
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 4: have the quarterback in place, which they hope they did.

959
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 4: Receivers a little bit of a luxury for them. If

960
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 4: it's second, it's a different more world, right. If it's

961
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 4: a first just really hurts my buying again.

962
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 2: You know if I can, if I can, you know,

963
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 2: if I'm the Steelers, I can package Dan More in

964
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 2: that deal to send him to Washington, which helps some

965
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:10,760
Speaker 2: of their issues.

966
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, or maybe Washington could send Jonathan Allen or Drawn

967
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 4: Payne or something like that. Yeah, like swap some money around.

968
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's a tough that's a tough thing to do.

969
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 4: That's a real tough thing. It doesn't happen much in

970
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 4: the league, not to make tracks being moved and throwing

971
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:27,280
Speaker 4: picks to make.

972
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,240
Speaker 3: Especially not when you're already getting ready to start training camp.

973
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 4: True, true, like there's plenty of time to adjust. But

974
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 4: and the Steelers definitely on the money. Washington definitely is

975
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 4: the money. But is it a good deal? And buying

976
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 4: big and signing big historically hasn't gone.

977
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 3: It hasn't gone well.

978
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 4: No, I mean, like, yeah, the Eagles are happy they

979
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 4: gave a first round pick for aj Brown, Okay, I mean,

980
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 4: I mean there's receivers been better than most positions, to

981
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 4: be honest with you, but historically it's just a lot

982
00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 4: to give up.

983
00:41:58,680 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 3: Hasn't gone.

984
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 2: I mean, the Dolphins haven't gotten anything out of it

985
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 2: as good as a.

986
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 3: Buffalo has been. They didn't get to the Super Bowl.

987
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 4: Oh no, okay, I'm saying but it wasn't like the

988
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 4: Digs or Hill deals were bad.

989
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 2: They weren't awful, but Buffalo couldn't wait to get out

990
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 2: from underneath Digs.

991
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 4: Right and Hill could be up. Both of them I

992
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 4: think were problem children. Yeah, do we know Ayuk's always

993
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 4: going to be. I don't know his personality for him,

994
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 4: but I don't either. He doesn't seem like the easiest

995
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 4: guy to get along with the last couple months.

996
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 3: And honestly, if you look at I'd.

997
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 4: Love to be a Steeler, folks. I'm not trying to

998
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 4: bash he's you.

999
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 3: Know, but at the end of the day, when you

1000
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:41,760
Speaker 3: look at it, he had seventy five catches last year

1001
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 3: for thirteen hundred and forty two yards, seven touchdowns.

1002
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 4: They also threw the ball less than anyone Would you

1003
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 4: be surprised?

1004
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 2: My point though, is, would you be surprised if for

1005
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 2: pickings numbers this year, what were they again? Seventy five

1006
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 2: for thirteen forty two and seven? No, the yard is

1007
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 2: might be hard to get to one sixty for eleven

1008
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 2: hundred last year.

1009
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean I might take the over on

1010
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 4: catches and touchdowns.

1011
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 2: I mean he's certainly he averaged eighteen point one yards

1012
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 2: of catch last year.

1013
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 3: He's averaging basically that for his career. He's a downfield threat.

1014
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 4: However, playing Devil's advocate, could Steelers when the Super Bowls

1015
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 4: here with both Maybe?

1016
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 2: Maybe, but you gotta again, you gotta pay him, and

1017
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 2: you're gonna mortgage your future by giving up a first

1018
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 2: round draft pick.

1019
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 4: No, yeah, could you get it down for a second

1020
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 4: in a condition I'm not for.

1021
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 3: I'm not interested in maybe, and I'm not interested in

1022
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 3: blowing my salary cap up.

1023
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 4: Over enough that it wouldn't.

1024
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 2: I just think that you're better off going for a

1025
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 2: complimentary receiver to George Pickens. Yeah, these big swings, big

1026
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 2: swings with me, or you've got your number one.

1027
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 4: I mean, frankly, even if he was Tyreek or Jefferson

1028
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 4: or whatever, and he's in that.

1029
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 2: But I say, I've heard people describe as well, they

1030
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 2: need a number two receiver next to George Pickens.

1031
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 3: Brandon Au comes in.

1032
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 2: Oh, he's gonna he's not your number one, he's not

1033
00:43:59,120 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 2: your number two.

1034
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:01,439
Speaker 3: No, No, he's your number one.

1035
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 4: He's number one on every team but five in the league.

1036
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 4: Right superstar, I mean in superstar in the making, best

1037
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 4: foot bulls should be ahead of them. I see, I

1038
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 4: had no problem with the player. There's nothing negative I

1039
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 4: can say with the player.

1040
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 3: I can get it. I get you know, I get

1041
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 3: the idea, but I think I don't get the cost.

1042
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 4: But it's all said and done. I think you and

1043
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 4: I would be happier, more comfortable with you getting traded

1044
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 4: the Commanders and then you get get the Klaora and

1045
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 4: who isn't going to be thirty million at his age

1046
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 4: and isn't going to cost the first round pick and

1047
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 4: him and pickings are staggered more and you could pay

1048
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 4: bith or one's gone when the other one's there, and

1049
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 4: that makes more sense to me. Yeah, you know, or

1050
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 4: something along those lines, or a locket or we've talked about.

1051
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want that those I want that eight.

1052
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 2: I don't want my both of my two number one

1053
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 2: and two receivers or one on one a however you

1054
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 2: want to look at it.

1055
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 3: I don't want that being the same age.

1056
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 4: No, that makes it tough. And you know we've come

1057
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 4: up over the because it's been brought up a million times.

1058
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 4: Godwin Lockett McLaurin like, those guys would be more up

1059
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 4: the alley in my opinion. You know, it would be

1060
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 4: a great additions.

1061
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 3: I agree.

1062
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 2: I just think this Brandon, the Brandon and Ayuk stuff

1063
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 2: just won't go away because he won't stop talking about

1064
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 2: He's he got seen wearing a Pittsburgh Pirates hat and.

1065
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 3: People he's gonna he's a Pittsburgh fan.

1066
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't matter.

1067
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 3: It's a hat and it doesn't matter because San Francisco

1068
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 3: is holding all the cards right now.

1069
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 4: I don't think him and Deebo will be Niners next year. Right,

1070
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 4: that's a different conversation. It's hugely different conversation. Yeah. I

1071
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 4: mean there's a lot of tea leaves saying something's got

1072
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 4: to give here. They drafted two receivers, won in the

1073
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,240
Speaker 4: first round, yeah, and then up another one in Jennings.

1074
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 4: I mean, so something's got to give. But they're they're

1075
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 4: in it to win it. They've been close forever. If

1076
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 4: I'm a Niners fan, I'm like I it has to

1077
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 4: be a strong pick, yeah, or otherwise we're just gonna

1078
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 4: we play. We can't even talk yeah, right, we could

1079
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 4: talk trade after this year with somebody.

1080
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 3: And they have to franchise and move him.

1081
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 4: Right or tray debo in an extend number or whatever.

1082
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 4: But I'm trying to win the whole thing this year. Yeah,

1083
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 4: that's I think those around you things. They don't have

1084
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 4: to do anything, no, and they don't have to pay

1085
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 4: party right now, right, they can wait and know when

1086
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 4: they do they can make these moves. But yeah, absolutely,

1087
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, it's not much to talk about,

1088
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 4: and he's trying to do everything he can to make

1089
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 4: his his case. And I get it, you know, from

1090
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 4: a self marketing perspective, but doesn't mean that he's on

1091
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 4: a plane here for.

1092
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 3: You just looking here at spot Trek.

1093
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 2: The market value you're looking at is uh, you're looking

1094
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 2: twenty seven point six million dollars?

1095
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 3: Is the market value?

1096
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 4: Ready to get a little of that? Yeah, I mean

1097
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 4: if Saint Brown's at thirty, he's probably knocking on that door.

1098
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 4: I don't think he's getting Jefferson money yet.

1099
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 3: But when that includes like Michael Pittman at twenty three point.

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00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 4: Three, which looks like a bargain now, is it?

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00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 3: I hearing people saying that?

1102
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 4: Really?

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00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 3: And he's I like the player, if he if he

1104
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 3: were if you were with the Steelers. A great complimentary

1105
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 3: player to Pickens, but he's a possession receiver.

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00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 4: See I look at it like him versus Saint Brown.

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00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 4: I'd rather have Pittman in seven million in my pocket

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00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 4: than Saint Brown.

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00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 3: But Saint Brown's also twenty four. I think they're about

1110
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 3: the same Pittman's twenty six. Ekay, I mean so, I

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00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,760
Speaker 3: don't even know if Saint Brown has scratched the surface

1112
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 3: necessarily of what.

1113
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 4: I don't know that the one has the massive ceiling though.

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00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:27,760
Speaker 4: That's why I got them together.

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00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I look at a mon Ross Saint

1116
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 3: Brown as a younger version of Keenan Allen.

1117
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, Pittman's a bigger body than those guys, but

1118
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 4: doesn't have a high average. None of them have high

1119
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 4: average after the targets. Yeah, they're all moved the chains types.

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00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 4: They're all really valuable. But they're never gonna be Justin Jefferson.

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00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just all right, they're they're just not on

1122
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 3: their best day.

1123
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,800
Speaker 4: They couldn't, they won't be. They're really good players, Pro Bowls,

1124
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 4: you know, but they're not Justin Jeffers.

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00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I could see the argument that Saint Brown

1126
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 2: is slightly overpaid and Pittman is slightly underpaid. But I

1127
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 2: don't see that as a quote unquote bargain. A bargain

1128
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 2: would have been if they got them for twenty million.

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00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, I Eco is a bit of a bar twenty three. Yeah,

1130
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 4: I mean just the way the receiver contracts came out

1131
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 4: in the last twenty four or in the last three

1132
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 4: and sixty five days. I guess my more point is,

1133
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 4: and this goes back to Dallas. The teams that signed

1134
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 4: the contracts early, Yeah, got much better deals. I mean

1135
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 4: Nico and Pittman.

1136
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 3: But I mean it's still three or seventy million dollars

1137
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 3: for Michael.

1138
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 4: Pittman where he's at. Yeah.

1139
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, who would again being number two on this team?

1140
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they'd be one a's on one bes.

1141
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 4: But yeah, we're splitting Harris right, Yeah, Yeah, I don't

1142
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 4: know who would end up. I can see Pittman with

1143
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 4: more catches, Pickens with more yards.

1144
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 3: Pickens would be the guy that would be the player

1145
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 3: that other opposing teams fear.

1146
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,919
Speaker 4: Probably, probably. But if you're the Colts and you're paying,

1147
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 4: you don't have a I mean they don't have many

1148
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 4: big contracts. I mean that makes a lot of sense

1149
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 4: for them. Absolutely. I don't know.

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00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 2: I can't see the Niners budget. I don't either, I know,

1151
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 2: I mean, why why would they? Yeah, let's get through

1152
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 2: another break. He is the Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lollie.

1153
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 2: That's going to do it for our number one of

1154
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 2: the drive. We'll be back with our number two right

1155
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 2: after this.