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Speaker 3: Well, there you go.

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Speaker 1: There's all the evidence you need that our show is

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Speaker 3: Being live four hours every night?

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Speaker 1: Like, have you ever thought that, Well, there's your evidence

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Speaker 3: I think we had plenty of evidence before that.

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Speaker 1: You never know, But you know what, every once in

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Speaker 1: a while you have to throw that random thing is

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Speaker 1: maybe you mispronounce a word horribly to where its borderline censored.

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Speaker 1: Yea required, you know that kind of thing. So here

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Speaker 1: we are another big night. You're all up in your Knicks, Knicks,

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Speaker 1: Knicks world. So I think that's where your brain went.

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Speaker 3: Go New York, Go, New York, go. You got to

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Speaker 3: bring that up. The Knicks finish.

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to get it done. The Knicks finished

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Speaker 1: that game ever done. Raptors on a ninety nine to

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Speaker 1: eight run sounds about right. And that was all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden. Now somebody, I'm not gonna say who, Karl

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Speaker 1: Anthony Towns. I was like, well, wait a minute, this

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Speaker 1: yan is rumors, this is out there now I better

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Speaker 1: pull down like twenty five rebounds tonight in the game.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, let me go, let me go. Probably say

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Speaker 3: I don't want to get traded to Milwaukee.

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Speaker 1: But if it's going to require an every what third

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Speaker 1: him on. He's really not paying attention now because this

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Speaker 3: This is a year.

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Speaker 1: Just goes back a year. Sure that it's been the Hey,

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Speaker 1: get your ass to your normal kind of numbers and effort.

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Speaker 1: Maybe try a little bit defensively, or you're getting shipped out.

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Speaker 3: That's a year.

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Speaker 1: According to reports, the Teakers making aggressive offers. That are

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Speaker 1: the big four suitors for Yannis, who today it comes

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Speaker 1: out that the Bucks are open to trading him. They

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Speaker 1: Multiple teams received a sense that the Bucks are more

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Speaker 1: I remember Yannis is out for a little while with

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Speaker 1: the calfstrain, which we can get into. Hey, he gave

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Speaker 3: It's like, eh, boo you two.

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Speaker 1: But when Yannis bowed the fans, and then a few

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Speaker 1: traded because what do we always say for players, for

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Speaker 3: NBA, how do you get out?

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Speaker 1: You have to go scorched earth, scorched earth and say

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Speaker 1: this is not working. I need out now. Everybody's definition

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Speaker 1: of scorched earth is different. James Harden's definition of scorched

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Speaker 1: earth is Darryl Moury is a liar. I'm sorry, did

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Speaker 1: some of you not have your microphones on? Hanging on ahead,

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Speaker 1: You guys are rolling, Okay, let me say Darryl Moury

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Speaker 1: That's James Harden's scorched earth. Kevin durant Is, I want

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Speaker 1: out right that everybody's got scorched, But Giannis's scorched earth,

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Speaker 1: So his scorched earth was We're gonna lay the groundwork

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Speaker 1: And then as nice as possible. I guess his scorched

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Speaker 1: to play that off. That was as scorched earth as

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Speaker 1: now this with the fans, Now that's gotta be enough.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be hated, and I don't want

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Speaker 1: It's like Luca with the Mavericks, where fans are running

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Speaker 1: still what's going on in Dallas after the Luca trade.

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Speaker 1: And so yeah, I get that he didn't want that.

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Speaker 1: So this is about as scorched earth as Jannis wants

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Speaker 3: He's always carried himself with a level of I understand.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get too out of control, don't

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Speaker 1: I scored fifty points. Hey, Pistons, give me that ball.

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Speaker 1: But this is about as as deep as he wanted

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Speaker 1: to go, and the message clearly has been sent and

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Speaker 1: now he is absolutely getting traded. But remember we told

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Speaker 3: We would just blow those guys out of the water.

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Speaker 3: The stuff we come up with Peterson versus Caruso. Let's go.

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Speaker 1: Look, it all comes back to Dave Mason. There ain't

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Speaker 1: no good guys. There ain't no bad guys. There's only

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Speaker 1: you and me, and we just disagree. And that's where

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Speaker 1: hold on to the last vestiges of what you once were.

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Speaker 1: You're an older team, all the pieces that you tried

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Speaker 1: the Damian Lillard thing didn't work, and he gets hurt

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Speaker 1: the guys to get hurt, right, Like we're enjoying what

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Speaker 1: the Clippers are doing. Sorry Mazie, but you know, at

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Speaker 1: You could see it coming. You just hope it's not

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Speaker 1: in crunch time with Milwaukee, you've hit that point. And

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Speaker 1: even in the Eastern Conference where there's opportunity to rise

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Speaker 1: I mean, you got a lot of bad, middling teams.

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Speaker 1: lot of teams like that. You got Boston, they get

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Speaker 1: Giannis never wants to be the bad guy. And that's

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Speaker 1: and that's the biggest issue to all of this, that

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Speaker 1: it's all got to be done under cover of night

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Speaker 1: and in the back channels and through Shan's and through

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Speaker 1: definitively saying, you know what, it was a good run.

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Speaker 3: I've had thirteen years because he because he's.

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Speaker 1: Gone down that road, he's gone down the wistful highways

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Speaker 1: of Hey, you know, I've been here a long time,

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Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 1: Let's not pretend that that didn't happen. Because what's surprising

433
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Speaker 1: to me the last twenty four hours is that nobody

434
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Speaker 1: likes cheating. Nobody wants cheaters and sports at all unless

435
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Speaker 1: it's keeping Bill Belichick out of the Hall of Fame.

436
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Speaker 1: We don't want Astro's cheating, We don't like Spider Oh oh,

437
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Speaker 1: but this is good.

438
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Speaker 3: Belichick's the best coaches here. But no, real Spygate was

439
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Speaker 3: a really big deal.

440
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Speaker 1: Man, of all the unprecedented things that happened with suspensions

441
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Speaker 1: and all the the lengths the Patriots went to to

442
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Speaker 1: get video of other teams, like this was.

443
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Speaker 3: A big deal.

444
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Speaker 1: And it's like, oh, well, because it happened in the

445
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Speaker 1: early in the two thousands, I'm not gonna we're not gonna.

446
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Speaker 3: Talk about that.

447
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Speaker 1: No, that's a thing, man. You gotta own that that

448
00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,359
Speaker 1: Spygate was a thing. This is not just because hey,

449
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Speaker 1: Belichick is personalities. No, it happened because there was a

450
00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,760
Speaker 1: big scandal that you cheated, that you guys benefited for.

451
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Speaker 3: So understand that.

452
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Speaker 1: And the whole shock suddenly where people want to pretend

453
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Speaker 1: Spygate didn't happen, Well it did. I'm sorry it did.

454
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Speaker 1: And this is coming from a guy that I would

455
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Speaker 1: have voted for him for the Hall of Fame if

456
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Speaker 1: I had a ballot, because I think he's a Hall

457
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Speaker 1: of famer, absolutely hundred percent Hall of Famer. But come on, man,

458
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Speaker 1: that's a big part of things. That's a huge part

459
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Speaker 1: of that. Well, I mean, you go back to two

460
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Speaker 1: thousand and seven. We talked about it last night. You

461
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Speaker 1: go find the full version of it, of the discussions.

462
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Speaker 1: But we'll do the cliff notes here of second here

463
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Speaker 1: a Goodell's reign. And if this was legitimately something that

464
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Speaker 1: if the tapes got out, was going to ruin the

465
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Speaker 1: sanctity of the game, then the destruction of them doesn't

466
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Speaker 1: help because like, all right, what exactly was on there?

467
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Speaker 1: Because otherwise, all right, let's see whatever footage you got,

468
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Speaker 1: because it comes back to being an unauthorized position from

469
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Speaker 1: which you were taping because you were allowed to do it.

470
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Speaker 3: Right, there's coach from Mike Shanahan.

471
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Speaker 1: There's quote, wow, that was you know, we should have

472
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Speaker 1: done that, We should have done this, and and a

473
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Speaker 1: lot of coaches, yeah we did that or some variations.

474
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Speaker 1: Right when we get to the idiocy that was to

475
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Speaker 1: flight Gate, but the length of which the Patriots went

476
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Speaker 1: to to video and and and illegally videotape like tried higher.

477
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Speaker 1: That's I mean, I get that the whole Hey, if

478
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Speaker 1: you're not cheating, you're not trying. And other teams have

479
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 1: tried this, no, but I mean they tried to take

480
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Speaker 1: this thing to say, hey, we can win championships if

481
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Speaker 1: we really go next level and illegally get all the

482
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Speaker 1: hand signals and everything out. But it's like anything right,

483
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Speaker 1: you know when you're when you're younger, like saying, when

484
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Speaker 1: I had my my two little girls, and you know,

485
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Speaker 1: you might have had some fresh bake cookies. You see

486
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Speaker 1: twelve up on the platter. All of a sudden, there's eleven.

487
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Speaker 1: All of a sudden, there's ten, and all right, you

488
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Speaker 1: get have one. No, all of a sudden, that's six.

489
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 1: Or you know, give an inch take a mile, right,

490
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 1: all of those lines that you've heard forever, same thing here.

491
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 1: It's like, all right, where's the letter versus spirit of

492
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Speaker 1: the law? And you decide how much it taints him,

493
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Speaker 1: particularly after Spygate's done, and they still go on to

494
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Speaker 1: win a ton right, to see the argument we have

495
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Speaker 1: with a lot of the baseball guys, and remember even

496
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Speaker 1: your most ardent supporters of things, where they're stumping for

497
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Speaker 1: players and for the greatness of the game while it

498
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Speaker 1: economically benefited into the high order, until all of a sudden, Wait,

499
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Speaker 1: Congress and other people are gonna get involved to start

500
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Speaker 1: looking into what's going on here? Yeah, no, when it

501
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 1: went back, got those guys lose high, Bob and everybody

502
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 1: coming back to the game all these years later, but

503
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,399
Speaker 1: you have all of that where suddenly you're the sanctimonious.

504
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 1: You're like, no, no, this is all wrong. It's like, no, no,

505
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,439
Speaker 1: you were there and watched it for a decade or

506
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 1: two decades, and now all of a sudden it's wrong.

507
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,400
Speaker 1: And with Belichick, it's like it goes again to where

508
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 1: we're drawing the line. And it's just kind of funny

509
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 1: to me. And obviously we have to wait a full

510
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 1: year to just figure out how many of the conscientious

511
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 1: objectors to the Bill Belichick entrance to the Hall of

512
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 1: Fame will hold that position in year two. Just to

513
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Speaker 1: own that Spygate happened. Let's not because it's like we

514
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,439
Speaker 1: want a broad brush it away. No, it's a really,

515
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 1: really big deal. It's the biggest cheating scandal the NFL

516
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,639
Speaker 1: has ever seen. So let's understand that that's part of

517
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Speaker 1: it too. That's part of who Belichick is now. The

518
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 1: other part today was something I was not seen coming,

519
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 1: but it did.

520
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Speaker 3: Vaje.

521
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Speaker 1: Gregorian and Gregorian chances that people will like his explanation

522
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Speaker 1: is a writer for the Kansas City Star and as

523
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Speaker 1: a Pro Football Hall of Fame voter, he is the

524
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Speaker 1: first voter to talk about why he didn't vote for

525
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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick for the Hall of Fame.

526
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Speaker 3: Right Kansas.

527
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Speaker 1: Starry wrote a column on it earlier today, and I

528
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Speaker 1: didn't see this coming. What I should have, because it

529
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Speaker 1: goes back to what I said last night about what

530
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 1: John Clayton would always tell me about the Pro Football

531
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. He would always say when we talk

532
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: about coaches for the Hall of Fame, and guys like

533
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Speaker 1: Tom Floris were on a long wait and all this

534
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Speaker 1: I go, how they and he always told me the

535
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Speaker 1: same thing. Now, the players get in first, Jason. The

536
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,360
Speaker 1: players always get in first.

537
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Speaker 4: Right.

538
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: He told me that for you a decade, the players

539
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 1: always get in first. So Gregorian says that he really

540
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 1: wanted Elsie Greenwood, Ken Anderson, Roger Craig to get in

541
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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame because he felt they were Hall

542
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: of Fame players and this might be their last chance,

543
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 1: and so he wanted to make sure he voted for them,

544
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 1: thinking that, well, Belichick will get in at some point,

545
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,159
Speaker 1: but this is the last chance for these guys. And

546
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: he talked about the rules that the Hall of Fame

547
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: has with voting, and when Jason Cole joins us on

548
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,880
Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame voter, right, we joined

549
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: us last night. The first thing he always tells us

550
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Speaker 1: is the way the voting goes, because I don't think

551
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 1: enough people understand that the voting is a way where

552
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 1: you have to rank your choices and list people, and

553
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 1: that's how it goes. For the Hall of Fame. This

554
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: is not just X on your ballot. If you think

555
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 1: the guy's a Hall of Famer, you have to figure

556
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 1: out and do it however you want to craft it.

557
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: And so Gregorian's attitude and strategy of well, look, of

558
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 1: course Bill Belichick's a Hall of Famer, but these guys

559
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: are this is their last chance to get in. And

560
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,360
Speaker 1: he's been covering the NFL for forty years, so you know,

561
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: I say, Kenny Anderson's a Hall of Famer, and Roger

562
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 1: Craig's a Hall of Famer, and so is Elsie Greenwood. Right,

563
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,959
Speaker 1: Elsie green has always been very underrated because he's on

564
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 1: that He gets lost with Lambert and Ham, sure, of course.

565
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Speaker 3: But that's his philosophy.

566
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Speaker 1: And I got to say, I understand it, and I

567
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 1: get it, and I get why he didn't vote for Belichick,

568
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: because yes, the players get in first. And this is

569
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 1: more an indictment for Gregorian of the system than it is. Oh,

570
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: you didn't vote for Belichick because quite honestly, this is

571
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Speaker 1: a guy that's covered the game, and now I don't

572
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 1: know what kind of blowback he's going to get. I

573
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: hope he doesn't get any because this is someone who

574
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Speaker 1: clearly put thought into why he voted the way he did.

575
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: You cannot like it, but this guy, this guy has

576
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: earned the right to vote how he wants because I

577
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 1: feel these guys are getting it now. Maybe he didn't

578
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: take into account. Boy, how it's gonna look if Belichick

579
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 1: doesn't get in, But other guys that are great, great

580
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 1: coaches haven't gotten in on the first time. Okay, I

581
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: don't think anybody saw this kind of blowback. I didn't

582
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: see it because I didn't think Belichick was gonna get

583
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 1: in because I'm like, yeah, they're gonna hold Spygate over him,

584
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: They're gonna hold how he treated the media over him

585
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: people who were voting, so I didn't expect him to

586
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: get in. But that's one thing I don't think they saw.

587
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 1: The blowback for Belichick was going to be this, How

588
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: does a guy that's the best coach you've ever seen, X,

589
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 1: Y and Z not get in But I can't argue

590
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: with this because he came at it from a perspective

591
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,400
Speaker 1: of this was my thought. This wasn't I didn't like spygate.

592
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: This wasn't the flate gait was terrible, This wasn't no

593
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 1: he you know, he told me to go spit when

594
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 1: I asked him a question he didn't like, you know,

595
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 1: at a press conference in twenty seventeen after an AFC

596
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: championship game.

597
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Speaker 3: You could not like it.

598
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 1: But he's reserve the right and deserves the right to

599
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 1: have this opinion of it, and I get it. And

600
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 1: if you have a problem with the way the voting goes,

601
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: I think that might be where you can go for

602
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: this and say, Okay, if you really want to talk

603
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: about Belichick getting screwed, let's talk about how.

604
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 3: The voting went.

605
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: Because clearly every voter we have on wants to talk

606
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: about the process. I want to say, listen, before you

607
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,719
Speaker 1: rip me or rip this, let me tell you what

608
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 1: the process is like. And that's their way of saying,

609
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: maybe the process isn't the best in the business and

610
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: we need a change to it.

611
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 6: Yeah.

612
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of things that come into this,

613
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 1: right because you have the other calls for not just

614
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: the changing of the process, but a reevaluation of who

615
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: constitutes those fifty voters at this point in terms of age, experience,

616
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: All of those things gender to a degree. But it's

617
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 1: a different line, and we mentioned it yesterday, and those

618
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: guys caught strays in the discussion because well, they've been

619
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: out of the game for thirty years, right, Roger Craig's

620
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 1: last year was nineteen ninety three, Anderson's was eighty six,

621
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 1: and Greenwood goes all the way back to eighty seven,

622
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: and so you've had ample time to get them into

623
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame and to move Now you want

624
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: to argue about whether a coach should be able to

625
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 1: go in, because I heard some arguments and discussions of hey,

626
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: maybe they thought he'd come back to the league, So

627
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 1: why vote on it. Now you talk about spygate to

628
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 1: flight gaate and whatever percentage you get to that you

629
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 1: get into the treatment of professionals, which again that pettiness

630
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: and silliness of it doesn't shouldn't affect your vote in

631
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: my thinking, because you didn't get the great quote you need.

632
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: You probably got a better quote if he brushed you off.

633
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: But if he gave you a long soliloquy about something.

634
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: As much as I loved listening to five minute diatribes

635
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: about coffin corner punts, special excellence all those years, but

636
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: it's the idea of coming forward and just saying, hey,

637
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: the players needed their shine before they fall to the

638
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: next group of retired players that'll come up for the

639
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: ballot and the evaluation. And Jason Cole, you know, as

640
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: you said, he prefaced it right away, going, hey, this

641
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: may not be the best way, this new way that

642
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: we've done it these last couple of years. But for Belichick,

643
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: also part of his uh the logic from the Kansas

644
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: City Star was yeah, he'll get in. Well, you you

645
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: took your tack, and now we wonder, okay, the other

646
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: ten plus because we still don't know what that official

647
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: count is. We know it's less than thirty, less than forty.

648
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: That's all we know, right, could be twenty people that

649
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: have been lying and saying they're voting for him the

650
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: whole time. Boy Bill Pollian's Bill Pollion's whole day. Hey, everybody,

651
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: just say you're not sure who you voted for. Now

652
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Speaker 1: I need you to pump in some crowd noise. If

653
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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about about one hundred percent I voted.

654
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: I need you to flood a field if you're Don Shula,

655
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: I am, so it's tougher to get to the ballot bottom.

656
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Speaker 3: I stop bringing up that AFC Championship game, Mudd.

657
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Speaker 1: But I don't know if you heard everybody put a

658
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Speaker 1: halo on and get it. Oh maybe I'm only eighty

659
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: five percent. I voted for Bill Belichick.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't know.

661
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: I voted for Bob Holly and hey, hey hey Peyton

662
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Speaker 1: lost again.

663
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Speaker 3: Pop up that crowd going.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm only fifty percent. I voted for a

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Speaker 1: hang on, was he even on the ballot. If he

666
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Speaker 1: was on the ballot, I think I may have voted.

667
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Speaker 1: He had a red statement today that if you believe

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Speaker 1: any of it, I got a bridge to sell.

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Speaker 2: I vote for you.

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Speaker 1: I'm thirty seven percent that I voted for Bill Belichick

671
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Speaker 1: for the whole. But all of that say, I love

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Speaker 1: that he wrote this, and I'll be curious to see

673
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Speaker 1: what the final vote is. How many of those three

674
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Speaker 1: guys get in, because even in his article, he goes,

675
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Speaker 1: I really thought when I started voting in twenty one,

676
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: Roger Craig was already in Yeah, because I think it's

677
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Speaker 1: really surprising the folks that have followed the game a

678
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: long time that he's not Yeah exit about a Fresco

679
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: exit swollen dome. Jason Smith, Mike Harmon again, maybe directing

680
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Speaker 1: your anger at the voting.

681
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Speaker 3: Process is the way to go on this time.

682
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: Now to find out what's trnning someone who's been called

683
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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame voter herself because she didn't vote

684
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Speaker 1: for Bill Belichick.

685
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 3: Either, it's Monty Blagyo's.

686
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Speaker 7: I did it because I don't have the vote, but

687
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 7: one thousand percent I would have voted for him.

688
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 3: I can't believe we're even talking about this. This is stupid.

689
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 3: Not a first time ballot Hall of Famer. Get out

690
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 3: of my face. Did Tom Brady text you and tell

691
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 3: you to say that?

692
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: Yes?

693
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 3: Oh okay, all right, that's my biggest flex. Oh good, okay, good, okay.

694
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 7: Yes, Tom Brady and I text each other.

695
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 3: Oh wow, Well if that's the case, I have some questions.

696
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 7: Well you know, yeah, also, listeners, I'm kidding, No, why

697
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 7: don't talk.

698
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 3: Tom Brady for certain drops to start flowing? Oh that

699
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 3: is a lie.

700
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 7: But absolutely he should be a first ballot Hall of Fame.

701
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 3: I guarantee you this.

702
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: If your boyfriend's listening, he just turned pale, going, wow,

703
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: Brady's texting my girlfriend h.

704
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 2: And no, I haven't told me.

705
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 3: That's the biggest fleas you ever.

706
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 7: Let me talk to him about the flagate what. Well,

707
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 7: that's the part here, guys. Obviously, if this is how

708
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 7: people feel, then that means Tom Brady's not going to

709
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Speaker 7: be a first ballot Hall of Famer, and that is psychotic.

710
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Speaker 3: I don't know. You can't do one and not the

711
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 3: other horse they can.

712
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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 3: Of course you can say it's right or wrong, but

714
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 3: you're telling me voter, But then you have what integretary

715
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 3: are you talking about?

716
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 6: What?

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Speaker 1: Of course they're gonna they're gonna vote Belichick in next

718
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: year because they're gonna.

719
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Speaker 3: Do a one year thing.

720
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Speaker 7: Okay, So how great would it be when Belichick said,

721
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 7: when Belichick says thank you, but no thank you in

722
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 7: a year?

723
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Speaker 3: You know what?

724
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Speaker 1: It would be great if I didn't know how much

725
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: he loved the Hall of Fame and wanted to get in, how.

726
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 3: Much he loved and how much he wanted to get

727
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 3: in consumes it would be a fun flex for him. Yeah,

728
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 3: So I can't wait for it to happen. You heard

729
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 3: it here first, all right? What else is going on

730
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 3: in the NFL?

731
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Speaker 7: Besides complaining about Bill Belichick?

732
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 3: The Browns have found their new head coach.

733
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Speaker 7: They are hiring former Ravens offensive coordinator Todd Monkin, and

734
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 7: after being passed over for the head coaching job, according

735
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 7: to multiple reports, Cleveland defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz has told

736
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Speaker 7: the team that he will not be returning to the

737
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 7: staff next season. Patriots quarterback Drake made was admitted in

738
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Speaker 7: practice today because of a shoulder injury, and the New

739
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 7: York Jets yo The Athletic reports that they reached out

740
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 7: to John Gruden to Gage's interests in joining Aaron Glenn's

741
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Speaker 7: coaching staff, but Gruden declined the offer.

742
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Speaker 3: Sorry there, Jason. He'd rather not coach than coach the Jets.

743
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 3: You rather not answer the phone now? He doesn't even

744
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 3: want to entertain it. It looks like Flora Park is

745
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 3: calling me. I'm hanging up on mid one. I'll let

746
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Speaker 3: it go to voicemail. Ah. So not no no news

747
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 3: there for the Jets. But your knicks have won four

748
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Speaker 3: in a row.

749
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Speaker 7: They rallied to beat the Raptors one nineteen to ninety two.

750
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 7: O Giano Nobi dropped twenty six points, and right before

751
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 7: the game, Jalen Brunson was added to the injury report

752
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,239
Speaker 7: with illness, but the Knicks still win it. Cavaliers roll

753
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 7: past the Lakers one twenty nine to ninety nine, Donovan

754
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 7: Mitchell twenty five points. The Hawks have won four in

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Speaker 7: a row. They defeated the Celtics one seventeen to one

756
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Speaker 7: oh six. Magic outscored the Heat won thirty three to

757
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Speaker 7: one twenty four Paolo ban Carrol thirty one points and

758
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 7: twelve rebounds.

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00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 3: Pacers topped the Bulls one thirteen.

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Speaker 7: To one ten Hornets with the one who did the

761
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Speaker 7: Hornets be I didn't even finish that sentence. They beat

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Speaker 7: the Grizzlies one twelve to ninety seven. Right now with

763
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 7: the ball eight minutes to go in the game, Timberwolves

764
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Speaker 7: lead the mount Rix one oh one, ten ninety one,

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Speaker 7: and late in the third quarter, Warriors over the Jazz

766
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 7: ninety one seventy five at halftime. Rockets are up on

767
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Speaker 7: the Spurs at home sixty two to fifty four. By

768
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Speaker 7: the way, Rocket center Steven Adams is going to miss

769
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 7: the rest of the season. Following ankle surgery. In the

770
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Speaker 7: NHL three games tonight and they've all wrapped up. Senators

771
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Speaker 7: defeated the Avalanche five to three. Blue Jackets over the

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Speaker 7: Flyers five to three. Islanders took down the Rangers five

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Speaker 7: to two. Back to you guys, Thank you min such Jess.

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Speaker 1: We'll coming up next. Got the play of the day

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Speaker 1: and the team that should be so far the favorite

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Speaker 1: to get Giannis for one simple reason.

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Speaker 3: That's next. Jason to Mike.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

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Speaker 1: Lakers TV on the call, Hey Lebron, James and I

805
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: eleven points, five assists, six turnovers. Not a great night. Uh,

806
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: not great, Bob. They couldn't see through the tears. They

807
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: lose to the Cavs one to ninety nine.

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00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 3: Okay because Giannis is coming.

809
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, well okay, And here's the thing is we We've

810
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: said this for a long time. Lebron's gonna end his

811
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: career with Cleveland. I kept saying for and it still

812
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 1: could happen. The Lakers may just want to buy him

813
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 1: out when we get to the deadline. But seeing Lebron's

814
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: reaction tonight, He's not going to have this be his

815
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: final season where I'm playing the number two, number three

816
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,760
Speaker 1: guy on the Lakers. When Austin Reeves comes back to Luca,

817
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: he is absolutely gonna go back for at least one

818
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 1: year with the Cavaliers.

819
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 3: He's gonna have his farewell year.

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00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: He'll announce one year, try to get a ring, and

821
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: that way, even if it doesn't end with a championship,

822
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: it ends with a year long celebration of his career.

823
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,919
Speaker 1: There is no doubt in my mind he's already wearing

824
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 1: a patch with himself. See that reaction tonight. He's doing

825
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: one more year and it's gonna be with Clays. No

826
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: other place he's gonna go. He's gonna start at home,

827
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: just a kid from Akron. I went back to Cleveland.

828
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna finish in Cleveland. One more year. Absolutely gonna happen.

829
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: You don't think he was doing the Joey Tribani Tweezers

830
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 1: thing to get himself to cry. You know, sometimes I

831
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: changed my line, like I go. Instead of saying it

832
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: looks like it's over there, I say, hey, it looks

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00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: like it might be over there. But yeah, in terms

834
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 1: of how how this ends, it's he had every chance

835
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: before the season, and.

836
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Speaker 3: He knew this was not going to be clean, so

837
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Speaker 3: going to clear.

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00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: It's so gonna end in clear because he doesn't want

839
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: to end like Aaron Rodgers didn't want to end with

840
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: the way the Jets was. Now I'm trying to figure

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00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: things out. Hey, end as well as it could with

842
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: the Steelers. Now it might not be over because Mike

843
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: McCarthy's back. I'm sure he's gonna go back. Lebron's gonna

844
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: want one year of of of of I would say

845
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Speaker 1: expectation free year, because yes, you expect to make he

846
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 1: expects to make them better.

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00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:54,919
Speaker 3: He can have his won last year.

848
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Speaker 1: This is all about Lebron and clearly he can still play,

849
00:37:58,280 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: and he's still play at a high level and may

850
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: help them get over the top in the East. But

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00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: if they don't, well, this is my final year and

852
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: they're saying goodbye to eight and two in their last

853
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: ten up to a top five seed. As we entered

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00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,760
Speaker 1: play tonight, you look at the opportunity. And look, all

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00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 1: the trade stuff is always curious because we talk about

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00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: the money, you talk buy out potentially, I still have

857
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: to look at my squad and say how much of

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Speaker 1: my rotation has to change?

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Speaker 7: Now?

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00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,919
Speaker 3: Look twenty two, six and six. I mean it's nothing

861
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Speaker 3: to sneeze about now.

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Speaker 1: It's all in a minus in the plus minus because

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Speaker 1: he plays no defense, so that part of things is

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Speaker 1: certainly coming back to potentially kick force all of this

865
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: to kick rocks. But with Cleveland, yeah, I mean it

866
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: would be nice, emotional, like he wants to go back

867
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: on a minimal kind of deal, then great, But if

868
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: it substantive money's I mean, he's not gonna get the

869
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: fifty three again. But if it's something that's going to

870
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: preclude you from keeping your core together, it's something you

871
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: really got to think about. I mean, sure you'll get

872
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 1: box office, you'll make money on the deal, but does

873
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 1: it make you a substantively better team by having him

874
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: in that locker room?

875
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 3: Yeah?

876
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: And the answers, I'm not sure. Look, it's it's it's

877
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 1: going to be Lebron. It'll be finessed and it will

878
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: be Lebron. Say listen, I understand it's Donovan Mitchell driven

879
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: this team. I'm coming in and and and now I

880
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: can dictate the terms rather than the Lakers dictating the

881
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: terms of this season. And hey, we're Luca driven. Now,

882
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: now we're Luke in Austin Reeves driven. I understand this.

883
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 1: I could take the step back and be the old

884
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: grandpa and everybody can talk about fun things and aha,

885
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: I can make the whole season a celebration of my career.

886
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: And I can treat it that way because I'm dictating

887
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 1: the terms, which is what he's wanted to do. But

888
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: he did by opting into his fifty three million dollars.

889
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 3: He dictated.

890
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 2: No, but he made it.

891
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 3: I'm going to make this hell for all of you.

892
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,439
Speaker 3: Yeah he did, And he knew that coming back.

893
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: You can't tell me he didn't know that it was

894
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: going to be awkward and miserable for as long as

895
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: he was on this roster trying to fit, was going

896
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 1: to be still exerting his his larger personality and will

897
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Speaker 1: on the squad. But I don't know that he felt

898
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: he had a choice. If I leave, it looks like

899
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: I'm leaving, and it looks so I have to do

900
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,959
Speaker 1: one more year. Here before I leave.

901
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 3: I can't.

902
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: I can't just walk away and say, Okay, it's not

903
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: gonna be being Luca. And I don't think he knew

904
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: that Austin Reeves was gonna explode the way it did,

905
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: because that happened early on in the season. I think

906
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: that was a miscalculation. But if they bring in Giannis

907
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: and he's the fourth made so yeah, look for Lebron

908
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: in Cleveland, that one hundred percent Lebron will finish in

909
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: Cleveland next year. Now what about Jannis. Four teams the

910
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 1: top of his trade list that potentially could put together

911
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: the biggest offers for him, Miami, the Timberwolves, the Knicks.

912
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 3: And the Warriors.

913
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,439
Speaker 1: Lakers not on this list yet, justin yet. I mean, boy,

914
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: the Lakers could really screw Lebron by trading him to Ah.

915
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: He's gotta wave his no trade too. That's the other thing.

916
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: But we got a big story out of the NFL

917
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Speaker 1: and the one team that is above everybody else that

918
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Speaker 1: I expect Giannis to get traded too. That's a Fox

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Speaker 1: and faster. So we find out today looks like Giannis

925
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: is getting traded. The Bucks open to dealing him. Teams

926
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: are calling with aggressive offers. The Heat, the Wolves, the Knicks,

927
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: the Warriors, all teams expected to make big bids for Yannis.

928
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 3: How's it going to go down? Joining us now in

929
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 3: the hotline?

930
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Speaker 1: Nobody better than Fox Sports won Insider extraordinaiy. He's on

931
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: Twitter at Rick Buker, and I think we have Rick

932
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: Buker to thank for this trade because he was the

933
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: one at the Bucks game last week who kept booing Yannis,

934
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: making Yannis to him the thumbs down, and that might

935
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Speaker 1: have started this entire Boy, Rick, I didn't know that.

936
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry if I you didn't want that to get out,

937
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:01,760
Speaker 1: but I thought I had to tell that story.

938
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Speaker 4: No, it's okay, I mean I'm taking one for the team.

939
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 4: I you know, I wanted to find somehow, some way

940
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 4: that the Knicks could wind up with him, So I

941
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 4: knew that. I knew that Jason had his heart set

942
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 4: on that. So sometimes you just got to go the

943
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 4: extra mile and and so there you have it, because,

944
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 4: let's face it, I mean, he is going to be

945
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 4: in New York, Nick, it's a matter of when not if.

946
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: Right, Really, we're all in agreement, honestly.

947
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 3: Now, are you.

948
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: Doing this to put it out there? You're doing this

949
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: to troll me because I said earlier I expect the

950
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: Warriors to get him. Obviously we're talking about what the

951
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 1: what teams have that the that the Bucks would want.

952
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: But the Warriors are clearly going to wind up being

953
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 1: the most desperate team to get jan It's even more

954
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: desperate than the Knicks to go get him.

955
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 4: There there is desperation and then there's the ability to

956
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 4: the ability to quench that desperation. And the Warriors have one,

957
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 4: but they don't have the other. Somebody pointed out recently,

958
00:42:55,400 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 4: they're like Buddy Healed and Draymond Green and Jimmy Butler.

959
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 4: I think it was those three are that's eighty five

960
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 4: million dollars worth of contracts? Oh no, no, it was

961
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 4: Johnathan Kaminga, Jimmy Butler and Buddy Heel eighty five million

962
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 4: dollars worth of contracts. As if that is something that

963
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 4: they can utilize to go get somebody. It's eighty five

964
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 4: million dollars worth of contracts, It's not eighty five million

965
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 4: dollars worth of.

966
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Speaker 8: Talent right now, So.

967
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 3: What of the one of the next giving up?

968
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: Like you really think it's it's the Knicks, like what

969
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: Karl Anthony Towns and what? Because I know it's got

970
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: to start with Karl Anthony Towns.

971
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 4: I mean, the beauty of the Knicks is one they're

972
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 4: desperate because their owner thinks that this is the year

973
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 4: that they should go for it. So I think anybody,

974
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 4: everybody and anybody outside of DeLand Brunson is on the table.

975
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 4: Michael Bridges, ogn and Obi uh with Karl Anthony Towns

976
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 4: and uh. And I haven't looked at what they're what

977
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 4: they're pick situation is, but I would imagine. I would

978
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 4: imagine that unlike the Golden State Warriors, the Knicks can

979
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 4: make a very attractive offer for Jannis. Now, where I

980
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 4: am uncertain is if you give up too many of

981
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 4: those pieces, are you still going to be a tie?

982
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 4: Are you going to be better than you are? And

983
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 4: that's that's the real question that I have at this point,

984
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 4: especially when it comes to Janni's being injured at the moment.

985
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 4: And that's this is why I would fully expect that

986
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,919
Speaker 4: this deal actually happens in the summer, because the one

987
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 4: thing that Milwaukee has to do, uh, they're they're looking

988
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 4: down the Nico Harrison barrel of if we're trading Janni

989
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 4: Santa de Compo, we have to get a rebuilding starter kit,

990
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 4: and it's got to be it's got to be a

991
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 4: lot richer than just a a Karl Anthony Towns and

992
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 4: a pick or too. It has to be something more

993
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 4: than that.

994
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's been the curiosity, trying to run it through

995
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: all the different iterations Rick of who can give what?

996
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: But that that last point, I think that being the

997
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: most salient of all, Right, does this bottom us out

998
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: to where everybody's got to be blown out altogether with it?

999
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: And Yannis the greatest self diagnosis of how long he

1000
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: was going to be out.

1001
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 3: I don't know that I've ever seen a player step

1002
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 3: to a mic like that.

1003
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, here's the thing.

1004
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 8: This is the crux of it where Milwaukee is, which.

1005
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 4: Is John Horst and the Milwaukee Bucks do not want

1006
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 4: to be the first to say we are trading Yiannis

1007
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 4: and Yannis does not want to be.

1008
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 8: The player who says I.

1009
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 4: Want out, I want out of Milwaukee. I believe that

1010
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 4: he's ready to move on, but he doesn't want to

1011
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 4: have to carry the tag of a Kevin Durant.

1012
00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 8: Or any of the other players who a band and

1013
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 8: their original team.

1014
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 4: And at the same time, John Horst is the GM

1015
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 4: of the Milwaukee Bucks, doesn't want to be Nico Harrison

1016
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 4: and be the guy who traded who traded Giannisante Takeompo

1017
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 4: without him saying I want to be traded. So I

1018
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 4: think that's really at the heart of this is who

1019
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 4: is It's a game of chicken between those two to

1020
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 4: determine who is going to make the move that ultimately

1021
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 4: takes responsibility for Yannis leading town. But at this point

1022
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 4: I would be shocked if something doesn't happen. I just

1023
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 4: don't believe it's going to happen until the off season,

1024
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 4: when if you're the Milwaukee Bucks and you're trading for picks,

1025
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 4: you know exactly where those picks are because of the

1026
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 4: draft lottery.

1027
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: Well, the thing is, I feel like Yannis has gone

1028
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 1: down the road as much as Yannis wants to with

1029
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 1: his scorched earth like not everybody is James Harden with

1030
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: Darryl Moury is a liar. Oh wait, where your microphone's

1031
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: not on? Oh wait all right, turning on Darryl Moury

1032
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: is a liar. I think Yannis in the last way

1033
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: the last few months of we got a couple of

1034
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 1: stories about how maybe Milwaukee isn't the best place for him,

1035
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: his agent talking to the Bucks, maybe they talked to

1036
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: the Knicks in the last offseason. But in the last

1037
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 1: ten days it's been, Hey, I'm booing the fans and

1038
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: giving them a thumbs down, nobody takes on the fans,

1039
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 1: and and and lives to tell about it in the

1040
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,760
Speaker 1: in the in sports, and then two days later ripping

1041
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: all of his teammates by saying the effort's not there.

1042
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: What we're doing is not there or not in the

1043
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 1: same We're not this like. I think that's Yannis going

1044
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 1: as scorched earth as he wants to get to. And

1045
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: now we're at the point where I think both sides

1046
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 1: are comfortable with Janis wants to move on. We kind

1047
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 1: of want to move on because I'm with you, no

1048
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: one wants to relive the the Luca trade, and hey,

1049
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: why we don't want to be Nico Harrison, But I

1050
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,919
Speaker 1: feel like this is this is where you're gonna get

1051
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: for both sides. Where Jannis kind of wants to move on,

1052
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: the Bucks know they have to move on, like Yannis

1053
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: did his part. Now the Bucks are saying we're taking offers.

1054
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 1: So I don't know, man, I can see this happening

1055
00:47:58,440 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: before the deadline because you get a lot of mode

1056
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: teams that suddenly Honis I think in a couple of

1057
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: weeks is going to feel Oh hey, I'm feel a

1058
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 1: lot better. I'd come back way sooner than six weeks. Yeah,

1059
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: I'm good, guys. I'll see in a couple of weeks.

1060
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 4: That that that may be. But if you're going to

1061
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 4: get Giannis, and I would I would expect that the

1062
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 4: price tag is going to be pretty hefty.

1063
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 8: And so if you're a team in contention, do you want.

1064
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 4: To break up what you have in order to go

1065
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 4: get him? I mean, and I put the Knicks in

1066
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 4: that category. I think that's a that's a difficult place.

1067
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 4: And for all the things that Jannis has said, he

1068
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 4: still has plausible deniability in terms of I didn't want

1069
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 4: to go. I was just pointing out all the things

1070
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 4: that are wrong here.

1071
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 3: Right, there's no hustle. Yeah, absolutely, the players.

1072
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 4: Aren't supported, like giving every reason. But I would dare

1073
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 4: say he looks at Damian Lillard, his former teammate. Damien

1074
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 4: didn't ask out of Portland. He wanted them to do

1075
00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 4: something in order for him to stay, which was to

1076
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 4: trade the picks that they had in order to get

1077
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Speaker 4: veteran players. They weren't willing to do that, so then

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Speaker 4: they trade him to Milwaukee. Well what happened. Damian goes

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Speaker 4: back to Portland and he is received with open arms.

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Speaker 4: He's still beloved in Portland because he didn't demand a trade,

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Speaker 4: And I think that Jannis is looking at the same

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00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 4: situation and saying, you know what, my time may be

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Speaker 4: up here, but I still like to be loved when

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Speaker 4: I returned back to Milwaukee. And by the way, he's

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Speaker 4: got another teammates who's experienced the exact opposite. When Miles

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00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 4: Turner went back to Indiana, they were like booing him,

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Speaker 4: And so Janni's got a front row seat in terms

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Speaker 4: of what that feels like. And I would imagine that

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Speaker 4: he doesn't want to He doesn't want to experience that

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Speaker 4: in a place where he look look, he grew up there.

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Speaker 4: I remember going there when he first got there and

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Speaker 4: he was being taught. I look down in the practice

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Speaker 4: court and he was being taught how to throw and

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Speaker 4: catch a football and was imagining himself being Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 4: That's how new he was to like the whole atmosphere

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Speaker 4: and growing up there, having his brothers on the team. Like,

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Speaker 4: I think he wants to be very careful in terms

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Speaker 4: of how he leaves Milwaukee so that it is not scorchter.

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Speaker 1: He could throw football farther than Aaron Rodgers right now.

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Speaker 1: But let's stay with the lebron James tearful and a

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Speaker 1: thirty point loss, played terribly, couldn't see through the tears,

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Speaker 1: with the turnovers tonight, Rick Trey deadline coming up, all

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Speaker 1: of the acrimony, all those stories this last week.

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Speaker 3: Do you see it in short ending? Yeah?

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00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 4: Wait a minute.

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Speaker 2: When when when did he cry pregame?

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Speaker 3: He did during a video?

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00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, do we know that?

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00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 3: I don't know they. I mean he was trying to.

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Speaker 8: Pull his jersey up over him his head, and we actually.

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Speaker 4: I saw him watching the video and then I saw

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Speaker 4: and maybe I'm the only one who saw this. Then

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00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 4: I saw a light bulb go off in his head. Oh,

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00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 4: I'm supposed to be emotional here. Okay, I'm gonna pull.

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00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 3: My jersey over my head.

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00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 4: Okay, wait a minute, Wait a minute, Wait a minute. Okay,

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00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 4: maybe they didn't get it.

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00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 8: That I was crying underneath my jersey. So let me

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Speaker 8: get the paper towels.

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Speaker 4: Let me get the paper towels.

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00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 8: Let me dab, let me gab my eyes, let.

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Speaker 4: Me Okay, Okay, I think I sold it. I think

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00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 4: I was crying because, let's face it, let's face it,

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00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:45,720
Speaker 4: Luka Datsch. When he went back to Dallas, he was crying.

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Speaker 4: There's no like he was crying, no doubt about that.

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Speaker 4: Lebron I don't know.

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Speaker 8: I mean, this is I hate to be.

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Speaker 4: Such a skeptic or such a cynic when it comes

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00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 4: to this, but I'm I'm sorry that that Lebron has

1130
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 4: pretended to do so many things that it turns out

1131
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,879
Speaker 4: that he really didn't do or says he.

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Speaker 8: Didn't do that.

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Speaker 4: I just he's not credible with me. So when I

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00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 4: watched that, I was like, it looks like Lebron is

1135
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 4: doing what he thinks he's supposed to be doing, as

1136
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 4: opposed to he's genuinely having an emotional moment.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll go with you there. I got no problem

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Speaker 3: with that.

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Speaker 1: He pretended to read a book, pretend that he didn't

1140
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: know Anthony Davis was going to get traded.

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Speaker 3: There was a lot of it. Yeah, yeah, sure, there's

1142
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 3: a ton of it.

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Speaker 1: Is he still with the team for the final throws

1144
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: of this season and eventually finds himself signing in Cleveland?

1145
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 3: Or what are you thinking it? Where it sits? Now?

1146
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 4: Look? He was what a minus twenty three three for ten?

1147
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 4: They got run by the Cleveland Cavaliers, Like, why is

1148
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 4: here the Cleveland Cavaliers? Hight he go, you know what,

1149
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 4: we gotta get We gotta get him. He's going to

1150
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 4: change things for us at this point. No, I mean, look,

1151
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Speaker 4: it's it's it's a sentimental idea of him going back

1152
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Speaker 4: and retiring in Cleveland.

1153
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 8: But Cleveland, Cleveland's moving in a different direction.

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00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 4: It doesn't if it was one game, you sign him

1155
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 4: for one game, he comes back and then he retires. Okay,

1156
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 4: like maybe that, but that doesn't really work under the salary.

1157
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 3: Chat we're going to give you one dollar.

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00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I mean, you know, the ceremonial signing so

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00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 4: that the guy can retire. I mean, you can, you

1160
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 4: can do that in certain sports. I don't think he

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00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 4: can really do.

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Speaker 3: That in.

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Speaker 8: Team like Cleveland, where they are no.

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Speaker 4: This is I mean, honestly, I can't imagine that Lebron

1165
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 4: doesn't want a farewell well tour, right, but if he's

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00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 4: going to get that farewell tour, and I and I

1167
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 4: really don't think he wants to go to like Charlotte

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00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 4: or I mean to go someplace else just to have

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00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 4: the fair well tour. But if he stays in LA

1170
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 4: he's going to have to take a major pay cut

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Speaker 4: and his role is going to be even more diminished

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Speaker 4: than it is now. So he goes out and he

1173
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 4: gets his farewell tour, but he gets it under terms

1174
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Speaker 4: that I don't know. We're going to are going to

1175
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 4: be very humbling under the circumstances, and so I'm not

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Speaker 4: sure what he does. I don't know how this ends

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Speaker 4: well at this point for Lebron James, because certainly he

1178
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,879
Speaker 4: deserves a fellow a farewell tour, but he's in.

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Speaker 8: A position with the with unlike you know, Kobe or a.

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Speaker 4: Number of other guys who are on teams that really

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00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 4: weren't very good, Like the Lakers are trying to move

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00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 4: in a different direction with Luca Donsons at this point

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Speaker 4: as of the Cleveland Cavaliers. So where is it that

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00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 4: he goes?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 4: And some people who suggested the Golden State Warriors. That

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00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 4: doesn't make a whole lot of sense either. And I

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00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 4: don't think Steve is coming back. But if they signed

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Speaker 4: Lebron James, I would guarantee you he's.

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Speaker 8: Not coming back. I just I don't know what the

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00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 8: answer is, but.

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Speaker 4: Right now it doesn't look like there's a very good

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Speaker 4: one for Lebron James.

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Speaker 1: He's on Twitter at Rick Buker, that is at Rick Buker.

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Speaker 1: He is in tears right now. Is the interview with him?

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Speaker 1: We have to get another.

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Speaker 8: It was more emotional than Lebron.

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Speaker 1: You really sold me, Rick. You know, Rick, you pretend

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Speaker 1: to do so many things that you said you're gonna do.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:44,879
Speaker 4: Tears in my eyes while I was booing, uh.

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Speaker 3: See you buddy, we'll talk to you next Masto.

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Speaker 2: Do we know Lebron was crying?

1205
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: I saw, I saw him, Dad is uh his eyes?

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Speaker 3: I mean I tried to dance at it. It's like,

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Speaker 3: really cried.

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Speaker 1: I mean at the beginning, Yeah, I mean, but but

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Speaker 1: I see Rick's points, like, uh, you know, it's I

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Speaker 1: asked the Joey tribuanti question fake tears, yo.

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