WEBVTT - David Harsanyi: Gun Grabbing Left Makes No Sense 0:00:11.657 --> 0:00:14.937 You're listening to The Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure 0:00:14.937 --> 0:00:17.977 you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or 0:00:17.977 --> 0:00:21.497 wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everybody, Welcome to the 0:00:21.537 --> 0:00:25.377 Buck Sexton Show. We have David Harsany with us now 0:00:25.577 --> 0:00:31.177 of The Federalist. He's a phenomenal columnist and actually proofred 0:00:31.257 --> 0:00:33.697 my first ever attempt at a column when I was 0:00:33.857 --> 0:00:36.657 a writer at The Blaze, which he may not even 0:00:36.697 --> 0:00:39.177 remember now, but he was very encouraging and very helpful. 0:00:39.257 --> 0:00:41.857 Mister HARSANYI good to have you on the program, Sir, 0:00:43.657 --> 0:00:45.377 thanks for having me. Just hit me how long I 0:00:45.417 --> 0:00:48.537 know you? What's that? Fifteen years ago or something? Right? Yep, 0:00:48.697 --> 0:00:51.897 we're going on I think thirteen years. We've known each 0:00:51.897 --> 0:00:53.897 other for thirteen years, so you and I go way 0:00:53.937 --> 0:00:59.697 back to the early days of the of the Blaze phenomenon. 0:00:59.857 --> 0:01:04.337 Now tell me this, David, there's been there's all this 0:01:04.377 --> 0:01:07.057 back and forth. Now, when people see this or listen 0:01:07.137 --> 0:01:11.177 to this, we're both, they will already know what the 0:01:11.217 --> 0:01:16.417 reality is of the Trump showing up in New York 0:01:16.457 --> 0:01:18.617 City situation. As you and I talk, we're not quite 0:01:18.657 --> 0:01:20.897 sure what that is going to look like because we're 0:01:21.537 --> 0:01:24.817 recording in advance of it. Just everyone knows. But one 0:01:24.857 --> 0:01:27.297 part of it that has already come out very clearly 0:01:27.417 --> 0:01:31.777 is if you talk about Alvin Bragg as a Soros 0:01:31.857 --> 0:01:35.537 funded DA, they go back and forth between one saying 0:01:35.577 --> 0:01:40.977 that that's not true, which is really they're just lying basically, 0:01:40.977 --> 0:01:43.417 but it comes to a third party that put the 0:01:43.457 --> 0:01:45.697 money out there. But put that aside. The other part 0:01:45.737 --> 0:01:48.497 of this is that it is anti semitic to say 0:01:48.537 --> 0:01:51.817 that Soros is giving money to people that he gave 0:01:51.857 --> 0:01:58.217 money to. Right, So there's two two fast as this 0:01:58.417 --> 0:02:01.617 one is they say, well, Soros doesn't actually back them 0:02:01.977 --> 0:02:04.137 because he gave seven million to a pack and that 0:02:04.137 --> 0:02:08.697 pack only gave Alvin Brag one million, right or whatever. Whatever. 0:02:08.737 --> 0:02:12.417 The number one, which is a new, completely new standard, 0:02:12.537 --> 0:02:14.857 which you know, we would we wouldn't be able to 0:02:14.897 --> 0:02:18.817 say that half the people out there who are funding 0:02:18.857 --> 0:02:21.497 political causes are funding them in that way because the 0:02:21.537 --> 0:02:23.937 money's laundered. It's not laundered, but you know what I mean, 0:02:24.017 --> 0:02:27.697 it's it's given out by packs, not exactly by the individual. 0:02:28.897 --> 0:02:31.297 Soros even said I never met him. Can you imagine 0:02:31.297 --> 0:02:34.017 if that was the standard of saying someone back something, 0:02:34.217 --> 0:02:36.017 someone you had to see them, you know, give a 0:02:36.057 --> 0:02:38.377 bag of money to the person in a picture, you know, 0:02:38.497 --> 0:02:41.137 shaking hands so on. So that's a ridiculous pot But 0:02:41.177 --> 0:02:44.497 the second part is much more nefarious. It's that you 0:02:44.537 --> 0:02:48.057 cannot talk about George Soros without being accused of being 0:02:48.137 --> 0:02:50.977 anti Semitic, as if George Soros is a stand in 0:02:51.017 --> 0:02:53.177 for the Jewish community in some way. Well, first of all, 0:02:53.377 --> 0:02:55.737 first of all, he doesn't care about the Jewish community 0:02:55.777 --> 0:02:58.697 at all. He's said in a sixty minutes interview years 0:02:58.697 --> 0:03:02.297 ago that he doesn't really even identify as a Jewish person. 0:03:02.417 --> 0:03:06.897 A b He funds BDS through you know, his packs, 0:03:07.337 --> 0:03:10.017 which is an anti Semitic organization. He doesn't care about Israel, 0:03:10.097 --> 0:03:13.217 doesn't care about Jews. Is a leftist. That's his identity, 0:03:13.257 --> 0:03:17.217 that's his religion. And but moreover, the idea that you 0:03:17.297 --> 0:03:23.777 can't be critical of the top benefactor for hard left causes, 0:03:24.377 --> 0:03:27.097 the top benefactor of any political causes in America. I 0:03:27.097 --> 0:03:30.017 think he dropped like one hundred and forty million last 0:03:30.097 --> 0:03:32.497 year and off, you know, not even in a presidential year. 0:03:32.937 --> 0:03:36.817 It's very convenient and very ridiculous. I've always said it's 0:03:36.857 --> 0:03:41.417 amazing how the left has plenty of billionaires, but their 0:03:41.537 --> 0:03:46.097 billionaires are good people who we should all be thankful 0:03:46.217 --> 0:03:49.737 or funding like media matters, and you know, funding these 0:03:50.097 --> 0:03:54.737 trash political attack organizations all across the NGEO spectrum, and 0:03:54.857 --> 0:03:59.657 you know, and wacko environmentalists. But those billionaires, like billionaires 0:03:59.697 --> 0:04:01.457 with a B bill with a big B, those are 0:04:01.457 --> 0:04:04.817 the bad billionaires, right. But we hear so much about 0:04:04.937 --> 0:04:07.857 the the Koch brothers, and not as much these days, 0:04:07.897 --> 0:04:12.257 I guess. But you know, there's this pretense that the 0:04:12.697 --> 0:04:17.337 billionaire class, their money all goes to conservative politics. This 0:04:17.417 --> 0:04:19.217 is kind of like how they also tell everybody that 0:04:19.257 --> 0:04:22.737 Wall Street is somehow republican. These are just this is 0:04:22.777 --> 0:04:26.257 just an untrue reality that are, you know, an untrue 0:04:26.297 --> 0:04:29.817 perception that the Democrats have entirely manufactured. I mean like 0:04:30.377 --> 0:04:34.097 Obama and Hillary and Biden got a fast majority of 0:04:34.417 --> 0:04:39.217 Wall Street money. Yeah, but they say dark money, they 0:04:39.217 --> 0:04:41.697 mean dark money from Republicans. They would mean dark money 0:04:41.777 --> 0:04:45.657 from the all the executives at all these sort of 0:04:45.697 --> 0:04:49.617 investment firms that are I think poles show like ninety 0:04:49.657 --> 0:04:53.457 percent of them give to Democrats, not to Republicans. I 0:04:53.497 --> 0:04:56.937 should mention when Republicans had Sheldon Addolson, who was a 0:04:57.017 --> 0:05:01.657 huge donor to like pro Israel politicians the Washington Post 0:05:01.737 --> 0:05:04.457 and New York Times. They have no problem saying Sheldon 0:05:04.577 --> 0:05:08.737 Addolson backed candidate or caused and no one accused them 0:05:08.737 --> 0:05:11.777 of being anti Semitic for so even though those issues 0:05:11.817 --> 0:05:14.897 actually related to Jewish causes, if you know what I mean. 0:05:16.017 --> 0:05:19.257 But of course, again everything's Calvin Ball, everything changes, it 0:05:19.297 --> 0:05:21.537 all depends. But you hit on a very important point. 0:05:21.577 --> 0:05:24.217 I think they don't. It's almost as if they don't 0:05:24.257 --> 0:05:27.537 view their causes as political. It's just common sense. It's 0:05:27.617 --> 0:05:29.657 just the right thing to do, you know. No, it's 0:05:29.697 --> 0:05:33.377 not let's not politicize this thing. You know, let's save 0:05:33.417 --> 0:05:37.137 the environment, let's you know, stop guns, let you know, 0:05:37.137 --> 0:05:39.617 whatever their causes, they view it as just common sense 0:05:39.657 --> 0:05:42.177 and not political, whereas what you want or I want 0:05:42.377 --> 0:05:45.977 is politicizing its culture war. It's you know, all these 0:05:45.977 --> 0:05:49.017 sort of negative connotations to them. Do you think that 0:05:49.057 --> 0:05:53.137 the the journalists or whatever whatever we call people now 0:05:53.177 --> 0:05:57.457 who write for these publications that are very clearly political, 0:05:57.497 --> 0:05:59.337 even though they pretend to just be you know, the 0:05:59.377 --> 0:06:02.137 facts in the news. Do you think that when they 0:06:02.177 --> 0:06:06.577 deploy the anti semitic charge about whether it's Rond de 0:06:06.617 --> 0:06:11.217 Santist talking about Soros back da It's fascinating. Soros came 0:06:11.297 --> 0:06:13.297 up with this whole plan that he has spoken about 0:06:13.337 --> 0:06:16.617 at length in interviews, and there are financial records of 0:06:16.737 --> 0:06:20.337 him realizing that there's this weak seem in the system 0:06:20.377 --> 0:06:22.497 in a sense where you can buy a DA's race 0:06:22.537 --> 0:06:25.017 with very little money. Because who wants to buy a 0:06:25.097 --> 0:06:27.657 DA's race? Was that was now people all know why, 0:06:27.897 --> 0:06:30.377 but that was the thinking, right, and so he has 0:06:30.377 --> 0:06:32.697 this whole plan and now to talk about his plan, 0:06:33.337 --> 0:06:37.377 they say, oh, well, that's that's anti semitic. And yet 0:06:37.897 --> 0:06:39.977 do you think the people that are saying that, the 0:06:40.137 --> 0:06:43.577 different chattering class individuals are saying that, do they know 0:06:43.697 --> 0:06:46.857 it's bad faith and they just don't care, or do 0:06:46.897 --> 0:06:50.017 you think that they really believe at some like they've 0:06:50.057 --> 0:06:54.777 convinced themselves that in this case, talking about objective reality 0:06:54.937 --> 0:06:57.497 just happens to be anti semitic would involve George Soros 0:06:59.257 --> 0:07:01.737 could be both. I'm not sure. I'm sure that some 0:07:01.817 --> 0:07:05.417 of its cynical, but you know, some of it maybe 0:07:05.457 --> 0:07:08.617 people have convinced themselves that all, let me take a 0:07:08.617 --> 0:07:11.897 step back, why would rot Santis, who is the governor 0:07:11.897 --> 0:07:14.657 of Florida, which has a large Jewish community, and he's 0:07:14.697 --> 0:07:18.057 been pro Israel, pro Jewish, he's only had good things 0:07:18.097 --> 0:07:22.857 to say about Jews and all that start peddling anti 0:07:22.857 --> 0:07:25.657 Semitic dog whistles. What what What would the point of 0:07:25.657 --> 0:07:27.937 it be? In their wark mind? The point of it 0:07:28.057 --> 0:07:31.017 is that all Republicans are basically just you know, Nazis 0:07:31.097 --> 0:07:33.377 underneath it all, and they hate Jews underneath it all, 0:07:33.377 --> 0:07:36.577 and they're racists and bigots. So he's appealing to that 0:07:36.937 --> 0:07:39.977 part of it. So I think they've convinced themselves that, yes, 0:07:40.577 --> 0:07:43.497 Jews are you know that Republicans hate Jews. They you know, 0:07:43.537 --> 0:07:46.617 they're racist and all that, and that's why they do 0:07:46.697 --> 0:07:49.697 the Jim Crow two point zero and all this other nonsense. 0:07:50.217 --> 0:07:51.977 Some of them are cynical, but I think that many 0:07:52.017 --> 0:07:54.777 of the rank and file actually believe that. They believe 0:07:54.977 --> 0:07:58.777 they believe that about their political opposition. And that's really 0:07:58.817 --> 0:08:00.857 a big problem in this country where we used to 0:08:00.857 --> 0:08:04.257 sort of be able to disagree without thinking the other 0:08:04.297 --> 0:08:07.537 side was evil or you know, was going to commit 0:08:07.577 --> 0:08:10.857 transgenocide or hated Jews or all this other stuff that 0:08:10.897 --> 0:08:12.897 doesn't really happen, but I think a lot of people 0:08:12.937 --> 0:08:15.617 have convinced themselves of it. Probably, David, we come back. 0:08:15.737 --> 0:08:18.177 You know we mentioned Ronda Santis. In a second. I 0:08:18.177 --> 0:08:21.857 want to ask you about the the book banning story 0:08:22.017 --> 0:08:24.937 that keeps I hear there's banning books. This has become 0:08:25.137 --> 0:08:27.497 a meme. It's all over the place. 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I've got them here at home in the bed. 0:09:29.297 --> 0:09:33.537 They're fantastic. All right. So they talk about book banning, 0:09:34.697 --> 0:09:36.937 but there's a problem with that, right, which is there's 0:09:36.937 --> 0:09:42.737 actually no books that are banned. What is going on here? Well, 0:09:42.737 --> 0:09:45.217 the last week or maybe a little before that, I 0:09:45.257 --> 0:09:47.177 went to a Barnes and Noble and I, you know, 0:09:47.297 --> 0:09:50.537 I see the book band book table where you can 0:09:50.577 --> 0:09:54.137 buy the books that are banned, right, and it hit 0:09:54.177 --> 0:09:55.937 me that it's just a racket, you know, for the 0:09:56.297 --> 0:09:58.977 for booksellers, it's a racket like yeah, Lord of the 0:09:58.977 --> 0:10:02.817 Flies is banned or you know whatever book. And all 0:10:02.817 --> 0:10:06.057 these books are bestsellers, some of them are generational best sellers. 0:10:06.057 --> 0:10:08.857 And it just gets people buying them, probably, and for 0:10:08.897 --> 0:10:12.657 the left politically, it's it's an ideological racket. It's it's 0:10:12.657 --> 0:10:15.777 a way to smear people. Like after the Tennessee shooting. 0:10:16.297 --> 0:10:19.777 In Nashville shooting, I saw a lot of leftists say 0:10:19.777 --> 0:10:23.177 they'll ban books in Tennessee, but not you know, assault weapons. 0:10:23.737 --> 0:10:25.857 No book is banned. I can buy any book I want. 0:10:25.897 --> 0:10:29.537 They are curated, as leftist administrators have been doing forever. 0:10:30.337 --> 0:10:33.457 Just because my books aren't in any school doesn't mean 0:10:33.457 --> 0:10:36.297 that they're banned. It means that they're not appropriate for 0:10:36.417 --> 0:10:38.417 kids to be reading, even though I think they are. 0:10:38.457 --> 0:10:41.577 But whatever, you know what I mean. Yeah, So they're 0:10:41.617 --> 0:10:44.177 not banned by in any sense of the word. In 0:10:44.217 --> 0:10:46.657 the same way you can say gay in Florida without 0:10:46.657 --> 0:10:48.977 going to jail. You know, you can say gay. You 0:10:49.017 --> 0:10:52.177 can buy any book you want. There are laws that 0:10:52.617 --> 0:10:57.137 basically prohibit you know, obviously they're over zealous administrators and 0:10:57.177 --> 0:10:59.937 teachers and parents and stuff sometimes, but in general, you're 0:10:59.977 --> 0:11:04.857 trying to keep sexually you know, explicit books or violence 0:11:05.017 --> 0:11:07.337 or things that you don't want young people reading. And 0:11:07.337 --> 0:11:09.337 it seems perfectly reasonable to me. If you're going to 0:11:09.377 --> 0:11:13.457 be in a state in school. Again, I'm asking. I 0:11:13.497 --> 0:11:15.657 guess they do a little bit of on the spot psychology, 0:11:15.697 --> 0:11:18.497 But I just have to wonder the people who are 0:11:18.537 --> 0:11:23.457 going around saying that these books are banned. They have 0:11:23.657 --> 0:11:27.257 to know that that's a lie, but they say it anyway. 0:11:27.377 --> 0:11:30.177 Is there just a cognitive dissonance here like they You know, 0:11:31.097 --> 0:11:32.977 it's so easy, right, I mean, you were explaining how 0:11:33.017 --> 0:11:35.737 it actually works with curation. You know, when I was 0:11:35.777 --> 0:11:39.417 at my Jesuit high school, they made a decision which 0:11:39.457 --> 0:11:43.137 I vehemently disagreed with. David Okay, I thought it was 0:11:43.217 --> 0:11:47.937 really really unfair that Maxim magazine was not allowed in 0:11:48.017 --> 0:11:51.577 school during school hours. You know, all of a sudden, 0:11:51.617 --> 0:11:55.297 now I wasn't able to see you know, Heidi Klume 0:11:55.737 --> 0:12:00.657 and Letitia Casta and some of the greats of that era. 0:12:00.777 --> 0:12:04.657 As you may well recall, I was not. Now, if 0:12:04.657 --> 0:12:07.897 I had gone outside the school and protested that there 0:12:08.017 --> 0:12:11.097 was an all out ban on Maxim magazine, people would 0:12:11.097 --> 0:12:14.337 have said that I was a clownish, you know, imbecile, 0:12:14.737 --> 0:12:17.617 because they're just saying, you can't read this during school 0:12:17.657 --> 0:12:21.737 hours in a jesuit in a Jesuit high school. So 0:12:21.777 --> 0:12:23.337 while I disagree with it. I knew that it wasn't 0:12:23.337 --> 0:12:25.497 a band. I just don't believe that it's possible of 0:12:25.537 --> 0:12:28.417 these people who were talking about the book band don't 0:12:28.537 --> 0:12:30.857 know that there's no band. So then are they just 0:12:30.937 --> 0:12:34.657 mouthing the propaganda because it's an attack, and so it 0:12:34.657 --> 0:12:36.697 doesn't matter if the attack is true. The point is 0:12:37.057 --> 0:12:41.617 ron de santist bad. I think partly that's it, but 0:12:41.697 --> 0:12:44.617 partly these people have convinced themselves that the state's not 0:12:44.697 --> 0:12:46.937 giving them something, it's being banned. I give you an example. 0:12:47.377 --> 0:12:51.697 A few years ago, we were debating birth control, and 0:12:52.177 --> 0:12:55.457 leftists would say the Republicans want to ban birth control 0:12:55.577 --> 0:12:58.177 or Republicans want to ban access to birth control, and 0:12:58.217 --> 0:13:00.497 what they meant was that the taxpayers would no longer 0:13:00.577 --> 0:13:03.217 be buying birth control and giving it to people. So 0:13:03.297 --> 0:13:06.257 to them the state, because they view the state as 0:13:06.297 --> 0:13:09.017 the well spring of all good things. If the state's 0:13:09.057 --> 0:13:11.657 not doing it, it's banning it or taking it away 0:13:11.697 --> 0:13:14.657 from someone. It's the same way, for instance, when you 0:13:14.737 --> 0:13:17.097 let someone keep their own money who makes a lot 0:13:17.137 --> 0:13:19.697 of money, you're taking it from someone else. That's how 0:13:20.217 --> 0:13:21.937 this is how they see the world. I don't mean 0:13:22.137 --> 0:13:24.377 again I'm sure there are people are very cynical about it. 0:13:24.697 --> 0:13:27.537 I think rank and file wise they view the world 0:13:27.577 --> 0:13:29.857 that way because they just don't understand how the world's 0:13:29.897 --> 0:13:33.937 supposed to work. I guess you know. You're also what 0:13:34.017 --> 0:13:37.657 was the name of your very excellent book again on firearms, 0:13:37.737 --> 0:13:43.657 David for everybody at home? First Freedom first, freedom right through? Yeah, no, 0:13:43.777 --> 0:13:45.577 go ahead, say the whole title. That's what you're here, 0:13:46.257 --> 0:13:48.697 right through America's history with the gun, kind of a 0:13:48.737 --> 0:13:54.177 cultural history. Yeah. So it's interesting me because obviously there 0:13:54.257 --> 0:13:56.817 was just a there was a mass shooting recently at 0:13:56.817 --> 0:13:59.457 a school, and so now there's the whole gun control argument. 0:14:00.217 --> 0:14:03.097 It is remarkable to me how few people I hear 0:14:03.177 --> 0:14:09.937 talking about the the problem that exists with the pistol bran. 0:14:10.377 --> 0:14:12.737 You know, you know about this, right, the pistol brace phenomenon, 0:14:13.337 --> 0:14:16.057 where you have tens of millions of these things have 0:14:16.137 --> 0:14:20.497 been sold and the ATF said they're fine, and now 0:14:20.497 --> 0:14:23.537 they were invented, if I recall by a former marine, 0:14:23.537 --> 0:14:24.977 I think it was so that people who had a 0:14:25.017 --> 0:14:30.057 disability could shoot, you know, could shoot effectively, even you know, 0:14:30.217 --> 0:14:32.177 basically if they couldn't have a stock in their shoulder. 0:14:32.217 --> 0:14:34.057 This allowed them to have a brace on their arm 0:14:34.097 --> 0:14:36.457 and so they could still use say an AAR platform 0:14:36.457 --> 0:14:41.857 something similar to that as of May thirtieth or thirty first, whatever, 0:14:41.857 --> 0:14:45.017 the last day of May is. If you don't register 0:14:45.137 --> 0:14:47.257 this thing or just give it up, you know, get 0:14:47.337 --> 0:14:51.257 rid of it, destroy it, you're a felon. So theoretically 0:14:51.337 --> 0:14:53.497 there will be at least hundreds of thousands, maybe even 0:14:53.537 --> 0:14:57.377 a few million people that the Biden administration, by the 0:14:57.617 --> 0:15:02.777 FIAT of a regulatory agency turns into a felon just 0:15:02.897 --> 0:15:06.257 by doing what had been legal until the Bide administration 0:15:06.297 --> 0:15:09.457 came along. I mean, to me, this is this is 0:15:09.697 --> 0:15:11.857 a huge slap in the face to what law is 0:15:11.857 --> 0:15:15.137 supposed to be. Yeah. I mean, it's the same guy 0:15:15.177 --> 0:15:17.177 who signs a piece of paper and says he's going 0:15:17.257 --> 0:15:21.337 to break contracts of people who borrow money for school 0:15:21.337 --> 0:15:23.217 and not have to pay it back because he says so, 0:15:23.377 --> 0:15:28.017 you know, he doesn't care. It's you know, it's interesting 0:15:28.057 --> 0:15:31.657 with the guns because set aside all the specific stuff, 0:15:31.657 --> 0:15:34.017 the stuff they want to ban, I think it doesn't 0:15:34.017 --> 0:15:37.057 really matter to them. It's just incrementalism. Like if it's 0:15:37.057 --> 0:15:39.337 a solid weapons, they'll go for that. The brace, they'll 0:15:39.377 --> 0:15:42.017 go for that. You know, what was there was something 0:15:42.017 --> 0:15:45.137 else they recently when you know it's just the aesthetics, 0:15:45.177 --> 0:15:48.257 they yeah, bump stocks all right, So like it. I 0:15:48.297 --> 0:15:51.217 think it's just moving forward. They know that are fifteens 0:15:51.217 --> 0:15:54.297 are largely used, are rarely used in criminality. I mean, 0:15:54.337 --> 0:15:58.377 the vast majority of gun crimes are committed with handguns 0:15:58.377 --> 0:16:02.217 of some sword. But these psychopaths who go into schools, 0:16:02.257 --> 0:16:04.817 you know, they like the aesthetics. They think, whatever it is, 0:16:04.937 --> 0:16:07.217 they use it. So they go after this because there's 0:16:07.217 --> 0:16:10.417 an emotional component. All their arguments are always emotional. There's 0:16:10.457 --> 0:16:12.977 never any reason to it. It. Constantly want to ban 0:16:13.137 --> 0:16:16.217 things that would probably not have stopped or most cases 0:16:16.217 --> 0:16:19.297 would not have stopped the mass shooting that they're using 0:16:19.737 --> 0:16:22.537 again cynically to try to pass some new law. I 0:16:22.537 --> 0:16:25.577 think I think an AAR fifteen band would be on constitutional. 0:16:25.617 --> 0:16:27.217 At some point, someone's going to take it to the 0:16:27.297 --> 0:16:29.697 Supreme Court. It is a gun in common use. It 0:16:29.777 --> 0:16:33.217 is not a more dangerous than most other guns. Some 0:16:33.297 --> 0:16:36.577 of the biggest mass murders have been occurred using you know, 0:16:36.697 --> 0:16:40.017 nine millimeters or whatever, and it will be overturned, you know, 0:16:40.177 --> 0:16:42.937 and then they'll just delegitimize the Supreme Court because it 0:16:43.057 --> 0:16:45.017 goes from one thing to the next. It just you know, 0:16:45.017 --> 0:16:47.457 they're constantly Yeah, I mean you mentioned the use of 0:16:47.497 --> 0:16:50.417 pistols and mass shootings Virginia Tech, which for a while 0:16:50.457 --> 0:16:53.617 I believe was the highest casualty school shooting of all time. 0:16:54.377 --> 0:16:59.177 Pistols and Ford Hood where I forget the full death count, 0:16:59.177 --> 0:17:01.177 but it was very it was high obviously that shooting. 0:17:01.177 --> 0:17:05.857 It by that, you know, self radicalized though lunatic Alaki 0:17:06.337 --> 0:17:11.457 onwar Alaki disciple, those use stals. But so I wanted 0:17:11.497 --> 0:17:13.617 to pose this to I mean, this is a theory 0:17:13.657 --> 0:17:17.537 I've talked about on radio. I think now that there 0:17:17.697 --> 0:17:21.817 is really there are really two different two different views 0:17:21.857 --> 0:17:24.417 within the Democrat Party about any kind of gun legislation. 0:17:24.457 --> 0:17:27.657 To your point about incrementalism. One is the people who 0:17:27.657 --> 0:17:31.977 are just they've been you know, there's like a phobia indoctrination, right, 0:17:31.977 --> 0:17:34.897 they've just been so terrified. Guns are so bad, guns 0:17:34.897 --> 0:17:38.217 are so scary. So anything we can do against the 0:17:38.257 --> 0:17:41.537 scary thing is good, irrespective of like all the existing 0:17:41.577 --> 0:17:43.737 laws and eying that's there. But I also think there's 0:17:43.737 --> 0:17:46.377 a substantial portion for whom they know it will do nothing. 0:17:47.217 --> 0:17:49.017 I think this would even be a majority of people 0:17:49.057 --> 0:17:51.577 pushing legislation of the Democrat Party. Quite honestly, that's really 0:17:51.617 --> 0:17:53.777 what I'm going after here. They know it won't save 0:17:53.817 --> 0:17:56.057 any lives, they know it won't stop any violence. But 0:17:56.937 --> 0:18:02.497 it is a thumb in the eye of predominantly, not entirely, 0:18:02.537 --> 0:18:07.297 but predominantly you know, white male, Republican rural gun owners 0:18:07.497 --> 0:18:09.537 who are gonna have to give this thing up or 0:18:09.577 --> 0:18:11.897 they're gonna have to wait five more days they're gonna 0:18:11.897 --> 0:18:14.617 have to go through. They know that's all that it does, 0:18:15.097 --> 0:18:19.737 and they're happy with that. Yeah. I think that most 0:18:19.777 --> 0:18:22.097 of these laws they reel I love. You know, after 0:18:22.137 --> 0:18:24.897 the shooting, they were talking about permits, permits in Florida, 0:18:25.017 --> 0:18:26.617 right like, how can we have how could people be 0:18:26.657 --> 0:18:29.257 able to have a loaded gun without a permit? What 0:18:29.417 --> 0:18:31.257 mass shooters like, Oh my god, I gotta go get 0:18:31.297 --> 0:18:33.577 a permit before I go to murder fifteen people like 0:18:33.657 --> 0:18:36.137 it is just it makes no sense. It is aimed 0:18:36.177 --> 0:18:39.417 at law abiding citizens. Wait longer. Don't be able. You 0:18:39.417 --> 0:18:41.217 know you're not able. They don't want you to sell 0:18:41.257 --> 0:18:43.177 a gun to your family or give a gun to 0:18:43.217 --> 0:18:45.057 your family member. Or sell a gun to your friend. 0:18:45.697 --> 0:18:48.097 You know, that's why they want universal background checks. They 0:18:48.137 --> 0:18:50.097 just want to make it harder on regular people, like 0:18:50.177 --> 0:18:52.497 you say, who own firearms in this country, and there 0:18:52.497 --> 0:18:54.257 are many of them. But I also want to just 0:18:54.377 --> 0:18:57.297 quickly mention one thing on the AAR fifteen band they 0:18:57.417 --> 0:19:01.417 keep how can I say this making the AR fifteen 0:19:01.457 --> 0:19:04.217 into this super weapon that can kill tons of people, 0:19:04.297 --> 0:19:07.137 that blows up inside you, you know, a kid when 0:19:07.137 --> 0:19:10.617 you shoot them, and stuff like this. They are actually 0:19:10.657 --> 0:19:14.417 making the guns sound, you know, like the super weapon 0:19:14.577 --> 0:19:17.617 and then they're then they're surprised when a mass shooter 0:19:17.817 --> 0:19:20.337 gets an AAR fifteen. And don't get me wrong, it's 0:19:20.337 --> 0:19:22.617 a good weapon. It's used for self defense, it's easy 0:19:22.657 --> 0:19:25.537 to shoot all that. But you know, I just think 0:19:25.537 --> 0:19:28.017 that that maybe some of the you know, maybe they 0:19:28.017 --> 0:19:30.897 should think about if they really cared, which sometimes I 0:19:30.937 --> 0:19:33.817 wonder they should think about what they're doing when they 0:19:34.057 --> 0:19:37.257 mythologize or whatever they find a gun. Have you ever 0:19:37.297 --> 0:19:40.177 seen I mean, this is one area where to me, 0:19:40.217 --> 0:19:43.937 this is this is almost like the people who wear 0:19:44.057 --> 0:19:46.177 I know, these different issues, but the people who insist 0:19:46.257 --> 0:19:50.057 on wearing masks alone in their car while driving that. 0:19:50.217 --> 0:19:53.817 I've never seen a rational defense of that of any kind. 0:19:53.897 --> 0:19:57.697 I've literally never read or her or anyone say this 0:19:57.817 --> 0:20:01.617 is going to stop you from getting a virus. I 0:20:01.777 --> 0:20:05.257 have heard people say it's not about has nothing to 0:20:05.297 --> 0:20:08.097 do with the virus. It's showing a willingness to comply, 0:20:08.377 --> 0:20:11.937 and it shows your desire to be a team player 0:20:11.937 --> 0:20:13.617 in the face of the virus. Right, So it is, 0:20:13.697 --> 0:20:15.577 which is basically a fancy way of saying it is 0:20:15.577 --> 0:20:20.497 straight up virtue signaling gun free zones. That are schools right, 0:20:20.657 --> 0:20:23.857 gun free zones at all schools across the country. Is 0:20:23.897 --> 0:20:27.097 there even a defense of this policy? I mean, it's 0:20:27.137 --> 0:20:29.817 your point about mass shooters or bad people. Bad people 0:20:29.857 --> 0:20:32.457 criminals in general do not care that it is a 0:20:32.497 --> 0:20:35.457 gun free zone. In fact, there's pretty ample evidence in 0:20:35.537 --> 0:20:37.337 a lot of different cases, got a point to the 0:20:37.337 --> 0:20:41.577 specific ones that they'll choose gun free zones as places 0:20:41.617 --> 0:20:43.897 to go because they know that they won't be challenged 0:20:43.897 --> 0:20:46.417 with a firearm. Is there any serious defense of that 0:20:46.497 --> 0:20:50.217 policy that you can I'm asking you honestly that no 0:20:50.497 --> 0:20:52.617 one answers me. I asked this question all the time. 0:20:52.657 --> 0:20:54.457 What does a gun free zone do? It does nothing. 0:20:54.537 --> 0:20:58.417 It disarms, people could defend themselves. It has zero purpose 0:20:58.457 --> 0:21:00.977 other than to let people know this is a soft target. 0:21:01.497 --> 0:21:03.537 I think the Nashville I don't know for sure about this, 0:21:03.577 --> 0:21:05.497 but I think that Nashville shooter. Or they say that 0:21:06.897 --> 0:21:10.017 she had another target in mind, but you know there 0:21:10.057 --> 0:21:13.097 it had armed any I've heard this too. It is unconfirmed. 0:21:13.097 --> 0:21:15.617 Just to be clear, but there were early reports and 0:21:15.657 --> 0:21:18.217 as you see this or listen to this episode the 0:21:18.257 --> 0:21:20.097 manifesto may have come out, we may know more. Just 0:21:20.137 --> 0:21:24.137 to be very clear, but there there were early reports 0:21:24.177 --> 0:21:25.977 that she was going to a target a different school, 0:21:26.017 --> 0:21:28.617 but that school had an armed resource officer, and she 0:21:28.697 --> 0:21:32.817