1 00:00:11,657 --> 00:00:14,937 Speaker 1: You're listening to The Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure 2 00:00:14,937 --> 00:00:17,977 Speaker 1: you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or 3 00:00:17,977 --> 00:00:21,497 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everybody, Welcome to the 4 00:00:21,537 --> 00:00:25,377 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. We have David Harsany with us now 5 00:00:25,577 --> 00:00:31,177 Speaker 1: of The Federalist. He's a phenomenal columnist and actually proofred 6 00:00:31,257 --> 00:00:33,697 Speaker 1: my first ever attempt at a column when I was 7 00:00:33,857 --> 00:00:36,657 Speaker 1: a writer at The Blaze, which he may not even 8 00:00:36,697 --> 00:00:39,177 Speaker 1: remember now, but he was very encouraging and very helpful. 9 00:00:39,257 --> 00:00:41,857 Speaker 1: Mister HARSANYI good to have you on the program, Sir, 10 00:00:43,657 --> 00:00:45,377 Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Just hit me how long I 11 00:00:45,417 --> 00:00:48,537 Speaker 1: know you? What's that? Fifteen years ago or something? Right? Yep, 12 00:00:48,697 --> 00:00:51,897 Speaker 1: we're going on I think thirteen years. We've known each 13 00:00:51,897 --> 00:00:53,897 Speaker 1: other for thirteen years, so you and I go way 14 00:00:53,937 --> 00:00:59,697 Speaker 1: back to the early days of the of the Blaze phenomenon. 15 00:00:59,857 --> 00:01:04,337 Speaker 1: Now tell me this, David, there's been there's all this 16 00:01:04,377 --> 00:01:07,057 Speaker 1: back and forth. Now, when people see this or listen 17 00:01:07,137 --> 00:01:11,177 Speaker 1: to this, we're both, they will already know what the 18 00:01:11,217 --> 00:01:16,417 Speaker 1: reality is of the Trump showing up in New York 19 00:01:16,457 --> 00:01:18,617 Speaker 1: City situation. As you and I talk, we're not quite 20 00:01:18,657 --> 00:01:20,897 Speaker 1: sure what that is going to look like because we're 21 00:01:21,537 --> 00:01:24,817 Speaker 1: recording in advance of it. Just everyone knows. But one 22 00:01:24,857 --> 00:01:27,297 Speaker 1: part of it that has already come out very clearly 23 00:01:27,417 --> 00:01:31,777 Speaker 1: is if you talk about Alvin Bragg as a Soros 24 00:01:31,857 --> 00:01:35,537 Speaker 1: funded DA, they go back and forth between one saying 25 00:01:35,577 --> 00:01:40,977 Speaker 1: that that's not true, which is really they're just lying basically, 26 00:01:40,977 --> 00:01:43,417 Speaker 1: but it comes to a third party that put the 27 00:01:43,457 --> 00:01:45,697 Speaker 1: money out there. But put that aside. The other part 28 00:01:45,737 --> 00:01:48,497 Speaker 1: of this is that it is anti semitic to say 29 00:01:48,537 --> 00:01:51,817 Speaker 1: that Soros is giving money to people that he gave 30 00:01:51,857 --> 00:01:58,217 Speaker 1: money to. Right, So there's two two fast as this 31 00:01:58,417 --> 00:02:01,617 Speaker 1: one is they say, well, Soros doesn't actually back them 32 00:02:01,977 --> 00:02:04,137 Speaker 1: because he gave seven million to a pack and that 33 00:02:04,137 --> 00:02:08,697 Speaker 1: pack only gave Alvin Brag one million, right or whatever. Whatever. 34 00:02:08,737 --> 00:02:12,417 Speaker 1: The number one, which is a new, completely new standard, 35 00:02:12,537 --> 00:02:14,857 Speaker 1: which you know, we would we wouldn't be able to 36 00:02:14,897 --> 00:02:18,817 Speaker 1: say that half the people out there who are funding 37 00:02:18,857 --> 00:02:21,497 Speaker 1: political causes are funding them in that way because the 38 00:02:21,537 --> 00:02:23,937 Speaker 1: money's laundered. It's not laundered, but you know what I mean, 39 00:02:24,017 --> 00:02:27,697 Speaker 1: it's it's given out by packs, not exactly by the individual. 40 00:02:28,897 --> 00:02:31,297 Speaker 1: Soros even said I never met him. Can you imagine 41 00:02:31,297 --> 00:02:34,017 Speaker 1: if that was the standard of saying someone back something, 42 00:02:34,217 --> 00:02:36,017 Speaker 1: someone you had to see them, you know, give a 43 00:02:36,057 --> 00:02:38,377 Speaker 1: bag of money to the person in a picture, you know, 44 00:02:38,497 --> 00:02:41,137 Speaker 1: shaking hands so on. So that's a ridiculous pot But 45 00:02:41,177 --> 00:02:44,497 Speaker 1: the second part is much more nefarious. It's that you 46 00:02:44,537 --> 00:02:48,057 Speaker 1: cannot talk about George Soros without being accused of being 47 00:02:48,137 --> 00:02:50,977 Speaker 1: anti Semitic, as if George Soros is a stand in 48 00:02:51,017 --> 00:02:53,177 Speaker 1: for the Jewish community in some way. Well, first of all, 49 00:02:53,377 --> 00:02:55,737 Speaker 1: first of all, he doesn't care about the Jewish community 50 00:02:55,777 --> 00:02:58,697 Speaker 1: at all. He's said in a sixty minutes interview years 51 00:02:58,697 --> 00:03:02,297 Speaker 1: ago that he doesn't really even identify as a Jewish person. 52 00:03:02,417 --> 00:03:06,897 Speaker 1: A b He funds BDS through you know, his packs, 53 00:03:07,337 --> 00:03:10,017 Speaker 1: which is an anti Semitic organization. He doesn't care about Israel, 54 00:03:10,097 --> 00:03:13,217 Speaker 1: doesn't care about Jews. Is a leftist. That's his identity, 55 00:03:13,257 --> 00:03:17,217 Speaker 1: that's his religion. And but moreover, the idea that you 56 00:03:17,297 --> 00:03:23,777 Speaker 1: can't be critical of the top benefactor for hard left causes, 57 00:03:24,377 --> 00:03:27,097 Speaker 1: the top benefactor of any political causes in America. I 58 00:03:27,097 --> 00:03:30,017 Speaker 1: think he dropped like one hundred and forty million last 59 00:03:30,097 --> 00:03:32,497 Speaker 1: year and off, you know, not even in a presidential year. 60 00:03:32,937 --> 00:03:36,817 Speaker 1: It's very convenient and very ridiculous. I've always said it's 61 00:03:36,857 --> 00:03:41,417 Speaker 1: amazing how the left has plenty of billionaires, but their 62 00:03:41,537 --> 00:03:46,097 Speaker 1: billionaires are good people who we should all be thankful 63 00:03:46,217 --> 00:03:49,737 Speaker 1: or funding like media matters, and you know, funding these 64 00:03:50,097 --> 00:03:54,737 Speaker 1: trash political attack organizations all across the NGEO spectrum, and 65 00:03:54,857 --> 00:03:59,657 Speaker 1: you know, and wacko environmentalists. But those billionaires, like billionaires 66 00:03:59,697 --> 00:04:01,457 Speaker 1: with a B bill with a big B, those are 67 00:04:01,457 --> 00:04:04,817 Speaker 1: the bad billionaires, right. But we hear so much about 68 00:04:04,937 --> 00:04:07,857 Speaker 1: the the Koch brothers, and not as much these days, 69 00:04:07,897 --> 00:04:12,257 Speaker 1: I guess. But you know, there's this pretense that the 70 00:04:12,697 --> 00:04:17,337 Speaker 1: billionaire class, their money all goes to conservative politics. This 71 00:04:17,417 --> 00:04:19,217 Speaker 1: is kind of like how they also tell everybody that 72 00:04:19,257 --> 00:04:22,737 Speaker 1: Wall Street is somehow republican. These are just this is 73 00:04:22,777 --> 00:04:26,257 Speaker 1: just an untrue reality that are, you know, an untrue 74 00:04:26,297 --> 00:04:29,817 Speaker 1: perception that the Democrats have entirely manufactured. I mean like 75 00:04:30,377 --> 00:04:34,097 Speaker 1: Obama and Hillary and Biden got a fast majority of 76 00:04:34,417 --> 00:04:39,217 Speaker 1: Wall Street money. Yeah, but they say dark money, they 77 00:04:39,217 --> 00:04:41,697 Speaker 1: mean dark money from Republicans. They would mean dark money 78 00:04:41,777 --> 00:04:45,657 Speaker 1: from the all the executives at all these sort of 79 00:04:45,697 --> 00:04:49,617 Speaker 1: investment firms that are I think poles show like ninety 80 00:04:49,657 --> 00:04:53,457 Speaker 1: percent of them give to Democrats, not to Republicans. I 81 00:04:53,497 --> 00:04:56,937 Speaker 1: should mention when Republicans had Sheldon Addolson, who was a 82 00:04:57,017 --> 00:05:01,657 Speaker 1: huge donor to like pro Israel politicians the Washington Post 83 00:05:01,737 --> 00:05:04,457 Speaker 1: and New York Times. They have no problem saying Sheldon 84 00:05:04,577 --> 00:05:08,737 Speaker 1: Addolson backed candidate or caused and no one accused them 85 00:05:08,737 --> 00:05:11,777 Speaker 1: of being anti Semitic for so even though those issues 86 00:05:11,817 --> 00:05:14,897 Speaker 1: actually related to Jewish causes, if you know what I mean. 87 00:05:16,017 --> 00:05:19,257 Speaker 1: But of course, again everything's Calvin Ball, everything changes, it 88 00:05:19,297 --> 00:05:21,537 Speaker 1: all depends. But you hit on a very important point. 89 00:05:21,577 --> 00:05:24,217 Speaker 1: I think they don't. It's almost as if they don't 90 00:05:24,257 --> 00:05:27,537 Speaker 1: view their causes as political. It's just common sense. It's 91 00:05:27,617 --> 00:05:29,657 Speaker 1: just the right thing to do, you know. No, it's 92 00:05:29,697 --> 00:05:33,377 Speaker 1: not let's not politicize this thing. You know, let's save 93 00:05:33,417 --> 00:05:37,137 Speaker 1: the environment, let's you know, stop guns, let you know, 94 00:05:37,137 --> 00:05:39,617 Speaker 1: whatever their causes, they view it as just common sense 95 00:05:39,657 --> 00:05:42,177 Speaker 1: and not political, whereas what you want or I want 96 00:05:42,377 --> 00:05:45,977 Speaker 1: is politicizing its culture war. It's you know, all these 97 00:05:45,977 --> 00:05:49,017 Speaker 1: sort of negative connotations to them. Do you think that 98 00:05:49,057 --> 00:05:53,137 Speaker 1: the the journalists or whatever whatever we call people now 99 00:05:53,177 --> 00:05:57,457 Speaker 1: who write for these publications that are very clearly political, 100 00:05:57,497 --> 00:05:59,337 Speaker 1: even though they pretend to just be you know, the 101 00:05:59,377 --> 00:06:02,137 Speaker 1: facts in the news. Do you think that when they 102 00:06:02,177 --> 00:06:06,577 Speaker 1: deploy the anti semitic charge about whether it's Rond de 103 00:06:06,617 --> 00:06:11,217 Speaker 1: Santist talking about Soros back da It's fascinating. Soros came 104 00:06:11,297 --> 00:06:13,297 Speaker 1: up with this whole plan that he has spoken about 105 00:06:13,337 --> 00:06:16,617 Speaker 1: at length in interviews, and there are financial records of 106 00:06:16,737 --> 00:06:20,337 Speaker 1: him realizing that there's this weak seem in the system 107 00:06:20,377 --> 00:06:22,497 Speaker 1: in a sense where you can buy a DA's race 108 00:06:22,537 --> 00:06:25,017 Speaker 1: with very little money. Because who wants to buy a 109 00:06:25,097 --> 00:06:27,657 Speaker 1: DA's race? Was that was now people all know why, 110 00:06:27,897 --> 00:06:30,377 Speaker 1: but that was the thinking, right, and so he has 111 00:06:30,377 --> 00:06:32,697 Speaker 1: this whole plan and now to talk about his plan, 112 00:06:33,337 --> 00:06:37,377 Speaker 1: they say, oh, well, that's that's anti semitic. And yet 113 00:06:37,897 --> 00:06:39,977 Speaker 1: do you think the people that are saying that, the 114 00:06:40,137 --> 00:06:43,577 Speaker 1: different chattering class individuals are saying that, do they know 115 00:06:43,697 --> 00:06:46,857 Speaker 1: it's bad faith and they just don't care, or do 116 00:06:46,897 --> 00:06:50,017 Speaker 1: you think that they really believe at some like they've 117 00:06:50,057 --> 00:06:54,777 Speaker 1: convinced themselves that in this case, talking about objective reality 118 00:06:54,937 --> 00:06:57,497 Speaker 1: just happens to be anti semitic would involve George Soros 119 00:06:59,257 --> 00:07:01,737 Speaker 1: could be both. I'm not sure. I'm sure that some 120 00:07:01,817 --> 00:07:05,417 Speaker 1: of its cynical, but you know, some of it maybe 121 00:07:05,457 --> 00:07:08,617 Speaker 1: people have convinced themselves that all, let me take a 122 00:07:08,617 --> 00:07:11,897 Speaker 1: step back, why would rot Santis, who is the governor 123 00:07:11,897 --> 00:07:14,657 Speaker 1: of Florida, which has a large Jewish community, and he's 124 00:07:14,697 --> 00:07:18,057 Speaker 1: been pro Israel, pro Jewish, he's only had good things 125 00:07:18,097 --> 00:07:22,857 Speaker 1: to say about Jews and all that start peddling anti 126 00:07:22,857 --> 00:07:25,657 Speaker 1: Semitic dog whistles. What what What would the point of 127 00:07:25,657 --> 00:07:27,937 Speaker 1: it be? In their wark mind? The point of it 128 00:07:28,057 --> 00:07:31,017 Speaker 1: is that all Republicans are basically just you know, Nazis 129 00:07:31,097 --> 00:07:33,377 Speaker 1: underneath it all, and they hate Jews underneath it all, 130 00:07:33,377 --> 00:07:36,577 Speaker 1: and they're racists and bigots. So he's appealing to that 131 00:07:36,937 --> 00:07:39,977 Speaker 1: part of it. So I think they've convinced themselves that, yes, 132 00:07:40,577 --> 00:07:43,497 Speaker 1: Jews are you know that Republicans hate Jews. They you know, 133 00:07:43,537 --> 00:07:46,617 Speaker 1: they're racist and all that, and that's why they do 134 00:07:46,697 --> 00:07:49,697 Speaker 1: the Jim Crow two point zero and all this other nonsense. 135 00:07:50,217 --> 00:07:51,977 Speaker 1: Some of them are cynical, but I think that many 136 00:07:52,017 --> 00:07:54,777 Speaker 1: of the rank and file actually believe that. They believe 137 00:07:54,977 --> 00:07:58,777 Speaker 1: they believe that about their political opposition. And that's really 138 00:07:58,817 --> 00:08:00,857 Speaker 1: a big problem in this country where we used to 139 00:08:00,857 --> 00:08:04,257 Speaker 1: sort of be able to disagree without thinking the other 140 00:08:04,297 --> 00:08:07,537 Speaker 1: side was evil or you know, was going to commit 141 00:08:07,577 --> 00:08:10,857 Speaker 1: transgenocide or hated Jews or all this other stuff that 142 00:08:10,897 --> 00:08:12,897 Speaker 1: doesn't really happen, but I think a lot of people 143 00:08:12,937 --> 00:08:15,617 Speaker 1: have convinced themselves of it. Probably, David, we come back. 144 00:08:15,737 --> 00:08:18,177 Speaker 1: You know we mentioned Ronda Santis. In a second. I 145 00:08:18,177 --> 00:08:21,857 Speaker 1: want to ask you about the the book banning story 146 00:08:22,017 --> 00:08:24,937 Speaker 1: that keeps I hear there's banning books. 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Well, 175 00:09:42,737 --> 00:09:45,217 Speaker 1: the last week or maybe a little before that, I 176 00:09:45,257 --> 00:09:47,177 Speaker 1: went to a Barnes and Noble and I, you know, 177 00:09:47,297 --> 00:09:50,537 Speaker 1: I see the book band book table where you can 178 00:09:50,577 --> 00:09:54,137 Speaker 1: buy the books that are banned, right, and it hit 179 00:09:54,177 --> 00:09:55,937 Speaker 1: me that it's just a racket, you know, for the 180 00:09:56,297 --> 00:09:58,977 Speaker 1: for booksellers, it's a racket like yeah, Lord of the 181 00:09:58,977 --> 00:10:02,817 Speaker 1: Flies is banned or you know whatever book. And all 182 00:10:02,817 --> 00:10:06,057 Speaker 1: these books are bestsellers, some of them are generational best sellers. 183 00:10:06,057 --> 00:10:08,857 Speaker 1: And it just gets people buying them, probably, and for 184 00:10:08,897 --> 00:10:12,657 Speaker 1: the left politically, it's it's an ideological racket. It's it's 185 00:10:12,657 --> 00:10:15,777 Speaker 1: a way to smear people. Like after the Tennessee shooting. 186 00:10:16,297 --> 00:10:19,777 Speaker 1: In Nashville shooting, I saw a lot of leftists say 187 00:10:19,777 --> 00:10:23,177 Speaker 1: they'll ban books in Tennessee, but not you know, assault weapons. 188 00:10:23,737 --> 00:10:25,857 Speaker 1: No book is banned. I can buy any book I want. 189 00:10:25,897 --> 00:10:29,537 Speaker 1: They are curated, as leftist administrators have been doing forever. 190 00:10:30,337 --> 00:10:33,457 Speaker 1: Just because my books aren't in any school doesn't mean 191 00:10:33,457 --> 00:10:36,297 Speaker 1: that they're banned. It means that they're not appropriate for 192 00:10:36,417 --> 00:10:38,417 Speaker 1: kids to be reading, even though I think they are. 193 00:10:38,457 --> 00:10:41,577 Speaker 1: But whatever, you know what I mean. Yeah, So they're 194 00:10:41,617 --> 00:10:44,177 Speaker 1: not banned by in any sense of the word. In 195 00:10:44,217 --> 00:10:46,657 Speaker 1: the same way you can say gay in Florida without 196 00:10:46,657 --> 00:10:48,977 Speaker 1: going to jail. You know, you can say gay. You 197 00:10:49,017 --> 00:10:52,177 Speaker 1: can buy any book you want. There are laws that 198 00:10:52,617 --> 00:10:57,137 Speaker 1: basically prohibit you know, obviously they're over zealous administrators and 199 00:10:57,177 --> 00:10:59,937 Speaker 1: teachers and parents and stuff sometimes, but in general, you're 200 00:10:59,977 --> 00:11:04,857 Speaker 1: trying to keep sexually you know, explicit books or violence 201 00:11:05,017 --> 00:11:07,337 Speaker 1: or things that you don't want young people reading. And 202 00:11:07,337 --> 00:11:09,337 Speaker 1: it seems perfectly reasonable to me. If you're going to 203 00:11:09,377 --> 00:11:13,457 Speaker 1: be in a state in school. Again, I'm asking. I 204 00:11:13,497 --> 00:11:15,657 Speaker 1: guess they do a little bit of on the spot psychology, 205 00:11:15,697 --> 00:11:18,497 Speaker 1: But I just have to wonder the people who are 206 00:11:18,537 --> 00:11:23,457 Speaker 1: going around saying that these books are banned. They have 207 00:11:23,657 --> 00:11:27,257 Speaker 1: to know that that's a lie, but they say it anyway. 208 00:11:27,377 --> 00:11:30,177 Speaker 1: Is there just a cognitive dissonance here like they You know, 209 00:11:31,097 --> 00:11:32,977 Speaker 1: it's so easy, right, I mean, you were explaining how 210 00:11:33,017 --> 00:11:35,737 Speaker 1: it actually works with curation. You know, when I was 211 00:11:35,777 --> 00:11:39,417 Speaker 1: at my Jesuit high school, they made a decision which 212 00:11:39,457 --> 00:11:43,137 Speaker 1: I vehemently disagreed with. David Okay, I thought it was 213 00:11:43,217 --> 00:11:47,937 Speaker 1: really really unfair that Maxim magazine was not allowed in 214 00:11:48,017 --> 00:11:51,577 Speaker 1: school during school hours. You know, all of a sudden, 215 00:11:51,617 --> 00:11:55,297 Speaker 1: now I wasn't able to see you know, Heidi Klume 216 00:11:55,737 --> 00:12:00,657 Speaker 1: and Letitia Casta and some of the greats of that era. 217 00:12:00,777 --> 00:12:04,657 Speaker 1: As you may well recall, I was not. Now, if 218 00:12:04,657 --> 00:12:07,897 Speaker 1: I had gone outside the school and protested that there 219 00:12:08,017 --> 00:12:11,097 Speaker 1: was an all out ban on Maxim magazine, people would 220 00:12:11,097 --> 00:12:14,337 Speaker 1: have said that I was a clownish, you know, imbecile, 221 00:12:14,737 --> 00:12:17,617 Speaker 1: because they're just saying, you can't read this during school 222 00:12:17,657 --> 00:12:21,737 Speaker 1: hours in a jesuit in a Jesuit high school. So 223 00:12:21,777 --> 00:12:23,337 Speaker 1: while I disagree with it. I knew that it wasn't 224 00:12:23,337 --> 00:12:25,497 Speaker 1: a band. I just don't believe that it's possible of 225 00:12:25,537 --> 00:12:28,417 Speaker 1: these people who were talking about the book band don't 226 00:12:28,537 --> 00:12:30,857 Speaker 1: know that there's no band. So then are they just 227 00:12:30,937 --> 00:12:34,657 Speaker 1: mouthing the propaganda because it's an attack, and so it 228 00:12:34,657 --> 00:12:36,697 Speaker 1: doesn't matter if the attack is true. The point is 229 00:12:37,057 --> 00:12:41,617 Speaker 1: ron de santist bad. I think partly that's it, but 230 00:12:41,697 --> 00:12:44,617 Speaker 1: partly these people have convinced themselves that the state's not 231 00:12:44,697 --> 00:12:46,937 Speaker 1: giving them something, it's being banned. I give you an example. 232 00:12:47,377 --> 00:12:51,697 Speaker 1: A few years ago, we were debating birth control, and 233 00:12:52,177 --> 00:12:55,457 Speaker 1: leftists would say the Republicans want to ban birth control 234 00:12:55,577 --> 00:12:58,177 Speaker 1: or Republicans want to ban access to birth control, and 235 00:12:58,217 --> 00:13:00,497 Speaker 1: what they meant was that the taxpayers would no longer 236 00:13:00,577 --> 00:13:03,217 Speaker 1: be buying birth control and giving it to people. So 237 00:13:03,297 --> 00:13:06,257 Speaker 1: to them the state, because they view the state as 238 00:13:06,297 --> 00:13:09,017 Speaker 1: the well spring of all good things. If the state's 239 00:13:09,057 --> 00:13:11,657 Speaker 1: not doing it, it's banning it or taking it away 240 00:13:11,697 --> 00:13:14,657 Speaker 1: from someone. It's the same way, for instance, when you 241 00:13:14,737 --> 00:13:17,097 Speaker 1: let someone keep their own money who makes a lot 242 00:13:17,137 --> 00:13:19,697 Speaker 1: of money, you're taking it from someone else. That's how 243 00:13:20,217 --> 00:13:21,937 Speaker 1: this is how they see the world. I don't mean 244 00:13:22,137 --> 00:13:24,377 Speaker 1: again I'm sure there are people are very cynical about it. 245 00:13:24,697 --> 00:13:27,537 Speaker 1: I think rank and file wise they view the world 246 00:13:27,577 --> 00:13:29,857 Speaker 1: that way because they just don't understand how the world's 247 00:13:29,897 --> 00:13:33,937 Speaker 1: supposed to work. I guess you know. You're also what 248 00:13:34,017 --> 00:13:37,657 Speaker 1: was the name of your very excellent book again on firearms, 249 00:13:37,737 --> 00:13:43,657 Speaker 1: David for everybody at home? First Freedom first, freedom right through? Yeah, no, 250 00:13:43,777 --> 00:13:45,577 Speaker 1: go ahead, say the whole title. That's what you're here, 251 00:13:46,257 --> 00:13:48,697 Speaker 1: right through America's history with the gun, kind of a 252 00:13:48,737 --> 00:13:54,177 Speaker 1: cultural history. Yeah. So it's interesting me because obviously there 253 00:13:54,257 --> 00:13:56,817 Speaker 1: was just a there was a mass shooting recently at 254 00:13:56,817 --> 00:13:59,457 Speaker 1: a school, and so now there's the whole gun control argument. 255 00:14:00,217 --> 00:14:03,097 Speaker 1: It is remarkable to me how few people I hear 256 00:14:03,177 --> 00:14:09,937 Speaker 1: talking about the the problem that exists with the pistol bran. 257 00:14:10,377 --> 00:14:12,737 Speaker 1: You know, you know about this, right, the pistol brace phenomenon, 258 00:14:13,337 --> 00:14:16,057 Speaker 1: where you have tens of millions of these things have 259 00:14:16,137 --> 00:14:20,497 Speaker 1: been sold and the ATF said they're fine, and now 260 00:14:20,497 --> 00:14:23,537 Speaker 1: they were invented, if I recall by a former marine, 261 00:14:23,537 --> 00:14:24,977 Speaker 1: I think it was so that people who had a 262 00:14:25,017 --> 00:14:30,057 Speaker 1: disability could shoot, you know, could shoot effectively, even you know, 263 00:14:30,217 --> 00:14:32,177 Speaker 1: basically if they couldn't have a stock in their shoulder. 264 00:14:32,217 --> 00:14:34,057 Speaker 1: This allowed them to have a brace on their arm 265 00:14:34,097 --> 00:14:36,457 Speaker 1: and so they could still use say an AAR platform 266 00:14:36,457 --> 00:14:41,857 Speaker 1: something similar to that as of May thirtieth or thirty first, whatever, 267 00:14:41,857 --> 00:14:45,017 Speaker 1: the last day of May is. If you don't register 268 00:14:45,137 --> 00:14:47,257 Speaker 1: this thing or just give it up, you know, get 269 00:14:47,337 --> 00:14:51,257 Speaker 1: rid of it, destroy it, you're a felon. So theoretically 270 00:14:51,337 --> 00:14:53,497 Speaker 1: there will be at least hundreds of thousands, maybe even 271 00:14:53,537 --> 00:14:57,377 Speaker 1: a few million people that the Biden administration, by the 272 00:14:57,617 --> 00:15:02,777 Speaker 1: FIAT of a regulatory agency turns into a felon just 273 00:15:02,897 --> 00:15:06,257 Speaker 1: by doing what had been legal until the Bide administration 274 00:15:06,297 --> 00:15:09,457 Speaker 1: came along. I mean, to me, this is this is 275 00:15:09,697 --> 00:15:11,857 Speaker 1: a huge slap in the face to what law is 276 00:15:11,857 --> 00:15:15,137 Speaker 1: supposed to be. Yeah. I mean, it's the same guy 277 00:15:15,177 --> 00:15:17,177 Speaker 1: who signs a piece of paper and says he's going 278 00:15:17,257 --> 00:15:21,337 Speaker 1: to break contracts of people who borrow money for school 279 00:15:21,337 --> 00:15:23,217 Speaker 1: and not have to pay it back because he says so, 280 00:15:23,377 --> 00:15:28,017 Speaker 1: you know, he doesn't care. It's you know, it's interesting 281 00:15:28,057 --> 00:15:31,657 Speaker 1: with the guns because set aside all the specific stuff, 282 00:15:31,657 --> 00:15:34,017 Speaker 1: the stuff they want to ban, I think it doesn't 283 00:15:34,017 --> 00:15:37,057 Speaker 1: really matter to them. It's just incrementalism. Like if it's 284 00:15:37,057 --> 00:15:39,337 Speaker 1: a solid weapons, they'll go for that. The brace, they'll 285 00:15:39,377 --> 00:15:42,017 Speaker 1: go for that. You know, what was there was something 286 00:15:42,017 --> 00:15:45,137 Speaker 1: else they recently when you know it's just the aesthetics, 287 00:15:45,177 --> 00:15:48,257 Speaker 1: they yeah, bump stocks all right, So like it. I 288 00:15:48,297 --> 00:15:51,217 Speaker 1: think it's just moving forward. They know that are fifteens 289 00:15:51,217 --> 00:15:54,297 Speaker 1: are largely used, are rarely used in criminality. I mean, 290 00:15:54,337 --> 00:15:58,377 Speaker 1: the vast majority of gun crimes are committed with handguns 291 00:15:58,377 --> 00:16:02,217 Speaker 1: of some sword. But these psychopaths who go into schools, 292 00:16:02,257 --> 00:16:04,817 Speaker 1: you know, they like the aesthetics. They think, whatever it is, 293 00:16:04,937 --> 00:16:07,217 Speaker 1: they use it. So they go after this because there's 294 00:16:07,217 --> 00:16:10,417 Speaker 1: an emotional component. All their arguments are always emotional. There's 295 00:16:10,457 --> 00:16:12,977 Speaker 1: never any reason to it. It. Constantly want to ban 296 00:16:13,137 --> 00:16:16,217 Speaker 1: things that would probably not have stopped or most cases 297 00:16:16,217 --> 00:16:19,297 Speaker 1: would not have stopped the mass shooting that they're using 298 00:16:19,737 --> 00:16:22,537 Speaker 1: again cynically to try to pass some new law. I 299 00:16:22,537 --> 00:16:25,577 Speaker 1: think I think an AAR fifteen band would be on constitutional. 300 00:16:25,617 --> 00:16:27,217 Speaker 1: At some point, someone's going to take it to the 301 00:16:27,297 --> 00:16:29,697 Speaker 1: Supreme Court. It is a gun in common use. It 302 00:16:29,777 --> 00:16:33,217 Speaker 1: is not a more dangerous than most other guns. Some 303 00:16:33,297 --> 00:16:36,577 Speaker 1: of the biggest mass murders have been occurred using you know, 304 00:16:36,697 --> 00:16:40,017 Speaker 1: nine millimeters or whatever, and it will be overturned, you know, 305 00:16:40,177 --> 00:16:42,937 Speaker 1: and then they'll just delegitimize the Supreme Court because it 306 00:16:43,057 --> 00:16:45,017 Speaker 1: goes from one thing to the next. It just you know, 307 00:16:45,017 --> 00:16:47,457 Speaker 1: they're constantly Yeah, I mean you mentioned the use of 308 00:16:47,497 --> 00:16:50,417 Speaker 1: pistols and mass shootings Virginia Tech, which for a while 309 00:16:50,457 --> 00:16:53,617 Speaker 1: I believe was the highest casualty school shooting of all time. 310 00:16:54,377 --> 00:16:59,177 Speaker 1: Pistols and Ford Hood where I forget the full death count, 311 00:16:59,177 --> 00:17:01,177 Speaker 1: but it was very it was high obviously that shooting. 312 00:17:01,177 --> 00:17:05,857 Speaker 1: It by that, you know, self radicalized though lunatic Alaki 313 00:17:06,337 --> 00:17:11,457 Speaker 1: onwar Alaki disciple, those use stals. But so I wanted 314 00:17:11,497 --> 00:17:13,617 Speaker 1: to pose this to I mean, this is a theory 315 00:17:13,657 --> 00:17:17,537 Speaker 1: I've talked about on radio. I think now that there 316 00:17:17,697 --> 00:17:21,817 Speaker 1: is really there are really two different two different views 317 00:17:21,857 --> 00:17:24,417 Speaker 1: within the Democrat Party about any kind of gun legislation. 318 00:17:24,457 --> 00:17:27,657 Speaker 1: To your point about incrementalism. One is the people who 319 00:17:27,657 --> 00:17:31,977 Speaker 1: are just they've been you know, there's like a phobia indoctrination, right, 320 00:17:31,977 --> 00:17:34,897 Speaker 1: they've just been so terrified. Guns are so bad, guns 321 00:17:34,897 --> 00:17:38,217 Speaker 1: are so scary. So anything we can do against the 322 00:17:38,257 --> 00:17:41,537 Speaker 1: scary thing is good, irrespective of like all the existing 323 00:17:41,577 --> 00:17:43,737 Speaker 1: laws and eying that's there. But I also think there's 324 00:17:43,737 --> 00:17:46,377 Speaker 1: a substantial portion for whom they know it will do nothing. 325 00:17:47,217 --> 00:17:49,017 Speaker 1: I think this would even be a majority of people 326 00:17:49,057 --> 00:17:51,577 Speaker 1: pushing legislation of the Democrat Party. Quite honestly, that's really 327 00:17:51,617 --> 00:17:53,777 Speaker 1: what I'm going after here. They know it won't save 328 00:17:53,817 --> 00:17:56,057 Speaker 1: any lives, they know it won't stop any violence. But 329 00:17:56,937 --> 00:18:02,497 Speaker 1: it is a thumb in the eye of predominantly, not entirely, 330 00:18:02,537 --> 00:18:07,297 Speaker 1: but predominantly you know, white male, Republican rural gun owners 331 00:18:07,497 --> 00:18:09,537 Speaker 1: who are gonna have to give this thing up or 332 00:18:09,577 --> 00:18:11,897 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to wait five more days they're gonna 333 00:18:11,897 --> 00:18:14,617 Speaker 1: have to go through. They know that's all that it does, 334 00:18:15,097 --> 00:18:19,737 Speaker 1: and they're happy with that. Yeah. I think that most 335 00:18:19,777 --> 00:18:22,097 Speaker 1: of these laws they reel I love. You know, after 336 00:18:22,137 --> 00:18:24,897 Speaker 1: the shooting, they were talking about permits, permits in Florida, 337 00:18:25,017 --> 00:18:26,617 Speaker 1: right like, how can we have how could people be 338 00:18:26,657 --> 00:18:29,257 Speaker 1: able to have a loaded gun without a permit? What 339 00:18:29,417 --> 00:18:31,257 Speaker 1: mass shooters like, Oh my god, I gotta go get 340 00:18:31,297 --> 00:18:33,577 Speaker 1: a permit before I go to murder fifteen people like 341 00:18:33,657 --> 00:18:36,137 Speaker 1: it is just it makes no sense. It is aimed 342 00:18:36,177 --> 00:18:39,417 Speaker 1: at law abiding citizens. Wait longer. Don't be able. You 343 00:18:39,417 --> 00:18:41,217 Speaker 1: know you're not able. They don't want you to sell 344 00:18:41,257 --> 00:18:43,177 Speaker 1: a gun to your family or give a gun to 345 00:18:43,217 --> 00:18:45,057 Speaker 1: your family member. Or sell a gun to your friend. 346 00:18:45,697 --> 00:18:48,097 Speaker 1: You know, that's why they want universal background checks. They 347 00:18:48,137 --> 00:18:50,097 Speaker 1: just want to make it harder on regular people, like 348 00:18:50,177 --> 00:18:52,497 Speaker 1: you say, who own firearms in this country, and there 349 00:18:52,497 --> 00:18:54,257 Speaker 1: are many of them. But I also want to just 350 00:18:54,377 --> 00:18:57,297 Speaker 1: quickly mention one thing on the AAR fifteen band they 351 00:18:57,417 --> 00:19:01,417 Speaker 1: keep how can I say this making the AR fifteen 352 00:19:01,457 --> 00:19:04,217 Speaker 1: into this super weapon that can kill tons of people, 353 00:19:04,297 --> 00:19:07,137 Speaker 1: that blows up inside you, you know, a kid when 354 00:19:07,137 --> 00:19:10,617 Speaker 1: you shoot them, and stuff like this. They are actually 355 00:19:10,657 --> 00:19:14,417 Speaker 1: making the guns sound, you know, like the super weapon 356 00:19:14,577 --> 00:19:17,617 Speaker 1: and then they're then they're surprised when a mass shooter 357 00:19:17,817 --> 00:19:20,337 Speaker 1: gets an AAR fifteen. And don't get me wrong, it's 358 00:19:20,337 --> 00:19:22,617 Speaker 1: a good weapon. It's used for self defense, it's easy 359 00:19:22,657 --> 00:19:25,537 Speaker 1: to shoot all that. But you know, I just think 360 00:19:25,537 --> 00:19:28,017 Speaker 1: that that maybe some of the you know, maybe they 361 00:19:28,017 --> 00:19:30,897 Speaker 1: should think about if they really cared, which sometimes I 362 00:19:30,937 --> 00:19:33,817 Speaker 1: wonder they should think about what they're doing when they 363 00:19:34,057 --> 00:19:37,257 Speaker 1: mythologize or whatever they find a gun. Have you ever 364 00:19:37,297 --> 00:19:40,177 Speaker 1: seen I mean, this is one area where to me, 365 00:19:40,217 --> 00:19:43,937 Speaker 1: this is this is almost like the people who wear 366 00:19:44,057 --> 00:19:46,177 Speaker 1: I know, these different issues, but the people who insist 367 00:19:46,257 --> 00:19:50,057 Speaker 1: on wearing masks alone in their car while driving that. 368 00:19:50,217 --> 00:19:53,817 Speaker 1: I've never seen a rational defense of that of any kind. 369 00:19:53,897 --> 00:19:57,697 Speaker 1: I've literally never read or her or anyone say this 370 00:19:57,817 --> 00:20:01,617 Speaker 1: is going to stop you from getting a virus. I 371 00:20:01,777 --> 00:20:05,257 Speaker 1: have heard people say it's not about has nothing to 372 00:20:05,297 --> 00:20:08,097 Speaker 1: do with the virus. It's showing a willingness to comply, 373 00:20:08,377 --> 00:20:11,937 Speaker 1: and it shows your desire to be a team player 374 00:20:11,937 --> 00:20:13,617 Speaker 1: in the face of the virus. Right, So it is, 375 00:20:13,697 --> 00:20:15,577 Speaker 1: which is basically a fancy way of saying it is 376 00:20:15,577 --> 00:20:20,497 Speaker 1: straight up virtue signaling gun free zones. That are schools right, 377 00:20:20,657 --> 00:20:23,857 Speaker 1: gun free zones at all schools across the country. Is 378 00:20:23,897 --> 00:20:27,097 Speaker 1: there even a defense of this policy? I mean, it's 379 00:20:27,137 --> 00:20:29,817 Speaker 1: your point about mass shooters or bad people. Bad people 380 00:20:29,857 --> 00:20:32,457 Speaker 1: criminals in general do not care that it is a 381 00:20:32,497 --> 00:20:35,457 Speaker 1: gun free zone. In fact, there's pretty ample evidence in 382 00:20:35,537 --> 00:20:37,337 Speaker 1: a lot of different cases, got a point to the 383 00:20:37,337 --> 00:20:41,577 Speaker 1: specific ones that they'll choose gun free zones as places 384 00:20:41,617 --> 00:20:43,897 Speaker 1: to go because they know that they won't be challenged 385 00:20:43,897 --> 00:20:46,417 Speaker 1: with a firearm. Is there any serious defense of that 386 00:20:46,497 --> 00:20:50,217 Speaker 1: policy that you can I'm asking you honestly that no 387 00:20:50,497 --> 00:20:52,617 Speaker 1: one answers me. I asked this question all the time. 388 00:20:52,657 --> 00:20:54,457 Speaker 1: What does a gun free zone do? It does nothing. 389 00:20:54,537 --> 00:20:58,417 Speaker 1: It disarms, people could defend themselves. It has zero purpose 390 00:20:58,457 --> 00:21:00,977 Speaker 1: other than to let people know this is a soft target. 391 00:21:01,497 --> 00:21:03,537 Speaker 1: I think the Nashville I don't know for sure about this, 392 00:21:03,577 --> 00:21:05,497 Speaker 1: but I think that Nashville shooter. Or they say that 393 00:21:06,897 --> 00:21:10,017 Speaker 1: she had another target in mind, but you know there 394 00:21:10,057 --> 00:21:13,097 Speaker 1: it had armed any I've heard this too. It is unconfirmed. 395 00:21:13,097 --> 00:21:15,617 Speaker 1: Just to be clear, but there were early reports and 396 00:21:15,657 --> 00:21:18,217 Speaker 1: as you see this or listen to this episode the 397 00:21:18,257 --> 00:21:20,097 Speaker 1: manifesto may have come out, we may know more. Just 398 00:21:20,137 --> 00:21:24,137 Speaker 1: to be very clear, but there there were early reports 399 00:21:24,177 --> 00:21:25,977 Speaker 1: that she was going to a target a different school, 400 00:21:26,017 --> 00:21:28,617 Speaker 1: but that school had an armed resource officer, and she 401 00:21:28,697 --> 00:21:32,817 Speaker 1: knew that because she actually surveyed the targets. Right. So 402 00:21:33,257 --> 00:21:34,817 Speaker 1: I get a lot of blowback when I say I 403 00:21:34,857 --> 00:21:37,657 Speaker 1: think should be armed, or rather I think teachers should 404 00:21:37,737 --> 00:21:40,177 Speaker 1: be able to arm themselves. I cannot think of a 405 00:21:40,257 --> 00:21:43,097 Speaker 1: better use of the Second Amendment than saying to a teacher, 406 00:21:43,137 --> 00:21:45,857 Speaker 1: you get to defend these children yourself, this school, in 407 00:21:45,857 --> 00:21:49,337 Speaker 1: this community. But yet people go bananas over it, like 408 00:21:49,377 --> 00:21:52,377 Speaker 1: it's like it's radical and crazy to say this. I 409 00:21:52,537 --> 00:21:55,697 Speaker 1: just to me arming schools, either with that or hiring 410 00:21:56,297 --> 00:21:59,057 Speaker 1: vets or whatever, it is, arming a school makes all 411 00:21:59,057 --> 00:22:02,537 Speaker 1: the sense in the world to me. Yeah what again, 412 00:22:02,657 --> 00:22:06,057 Speaker 1: because you write and analyze in this realm a lot. 413 00:22:06,817 --> 00:22:11,457 Speaker 1: What is the counter argument to the arm resource officer 414 00:22:11,937 --> 00:22:15,497 Speaker 1: and or ability of not you know, I don't want 415 00:22:15,497 --> 00:22:20,657 Speaker 1: a teacher with you know, horrible vision, no familiarity with firearms, 416 00:22:20,657 --> 00:22:22,657 Speaker 1: no interest in ever using a fire even in defense 417 00:22:22,697 --> 00:22:26,137 Speaker 1: of himself or herself, to carry obviously, right, But there 418 00:22:26,137 --> 00:22:28,097 Speaker 1: are teachers who spend a lot of time at the range. 419 00:22:28,297 --> 00:22:30,897 Speaker 1: They're teachers who were themselves are former law enforcement, former 420 00:22:30,937 --> 00:22:33,817 Speaker 1: military like that exists as well, you know, plenty of 421 00:22:33,977 --> 00:22:37,057 Speaker 1: I'm sure there are plenty of high school football coaches, 422 00:22:37,097 --> 00:22:38,577 Speaker 1: and plenty of people in the you know, in the 423 00:22:38,617 --> 00:22:41,417 Speaker 1: academic community. More broadly, who have you know, for the 424 00:22:41,457 --> 00:22:43,457 Speaker 1: former marines? Right, if they want to carry on a 425 00:22:43,537 --> 00:22:49,177 Speaker 1: school grounds, what is the counter argument? Yeah, yeah, I 426 00:22:49,177 --> 00:22:51,057 Speaker 1: don't want to compel anyone. Like you said, I don't 427 00:22:51,057 --> 00:22:52,617 Speaker 1: want to compel people to have guns that should be 428 00:22:52,657 --> 00:22:56,737 Speaker 1: able to do to defend themselves. They always say, it's 429 00:22:56,897 --> 00:22:59,337 Speaker 1: guns are the problem. There's already too many guns. You know, 430 00:22:59,457 --> 00:23:02,537 Speaker 1: we you know, you know they will won't be trained, 431 00:23:02,697 --> 00:23:05,137 Speaker 1: so let's get them training. They you know, they won't 432 00:23:05,137 --> 00:23:07,657 Speaker 1: be you know, how many lives will they really saved. 433 00:23:07,777 --> 00:23:09,537 Speaker 1: I don't know. They don't have good arguments. They don't 434 00:23:09,537 --> 00:23:12,737 Speaker 1: even honestly, these people don't even want to debate. You're 435 00:23:12,937 --> 00:23:14,977 Speaker 1: I know it's Twitter or whatever, you're on social media. 436 00:23:15,097 --> 00:23:16,977 Speaker 1: You approach someone and you ask them a question, they 437 00:23:17,017 --> 00:23:18,937 Speaker 1: block you. You know what I mean. They don't want 438 00:23:18,977 --> 00:23:21,337 Speaker 1: to engage in any kind of debate because they have 439 00:23:21,337 --> 00:23:24,537 Speaker 1: a very emotion emotional argument. And listen, part of it 440 00:23:24,577 --> 00:23:29,377 Speaker 1: is emotional. These these events are horrible, um, but they 441 00:23:29,417 --> 00:23:32,177 Speaker 1: don't really give you straight answers to the questions you're asking. 442 00:23:32,177 --> 00:23:34,257 Speaker 1: They're very good questions. I wish someone would answer them. 443 00:23:34,937 --> 00:23:39,577 Speaker 1: It just don't see. Yeah, it just it just seems 444 00:23:39,617 --> 00:23:42,697 Speaker 1: crazy that there can be every time this sort of 445 00:23:42,697 --> 00:23:47,577 Speaker 1: thing happens, there's this push and and yet there's no 446 00:23:48,777 --> 00:23:51,777 Speaker 1: foundation for the argument that's being made, and they don't 447 00:23:51,777 --> 00:23:54,137 Speaker 1: even try, and they don't care. And if you won't 448 00:23:54,177 --> 00:23:57,497 Speaker 1: go along, they just shout louder at you. Because I 449 00:23:57,737 --> 00:24:00,297 Speaker 1: also think that ultimately, So now I'm getting really and 450 00:24:00,337 --> 00:24:01,977 Speaker 1: I'm doing a little bit of like psychology at their 451 00:24:01,977 --> 00:24:03,817 Speaker 1: side here, David. But you can tell me, if you 452 00:24:03,817 --> 00:24:04,937 Speaker 1: can tell me you think this is a little bit 453 00:24:04,937 --> 00:24:07,897 Speaker 1: little too much, I think, I mean, I'll disagree with 454 00:24:07,897 --> 00:24:10,137 Speaker 1: you obviously, because I think that way. I think that 455 00:24:10,337 --> 00:24:15,177 Speaker 1: they like to believe that Republicans are so monstrous that 456 00:24:15,217 --> 00:24:18,017 Speaker 1: they don't care about kids being shot in schools. They'd 457 00:24:18,137 --> 00:24:21,777 Speaker 1: rather take NRA money, whatever that means. Like, I think 458 00:24:21,777 --> 00:24:24,817 Speaker 1: that they like that narrative. So that's part of what 459 00:24:24,817 --> 00:24:27,337 Speaker 1: this is. It's just a way of saying you're the evil, 460 00:24:27,377 --> 00:24:31,057 Speaker 1: bad people, and the argument about firearms and the Second 461 00:24:31,057 --> 00:24:34,897 Speaker 1: Amendment is irrelevant. That's not it's what you're saying is 462 00:24:34,897 --> 00:24:38,897 Speaker 1: not even debatable. Of course many of them, Yeah, I 463 00:24:38,937 --> 00:24:43,977 Speaker 1: get like, uh, you know, basically with great ease, they 464 00:24:44,017 --> 00:24:46,817 Speaker 1: will say that NRA is a terrorist organization, you care 465 00:24:46,857 --> 00:24:48,777 Speaker 1: more about guns than dead children. I mean, I get 466 00:24:48,817 --> 00:24:51,377 Speaker 1: this all the time from people. You This is not 467 00:24:51,577 --> 00:24:55,177 Speaker 1: some you don't have to be a psychiatrist to delve 468 00:24:55,217 --> 00:24:58,297 Speaker 1: deep in there. They say it, and then what they do, 469 00:24:58,297 --> 00:25:00,297 Speaker 1: which bothers me. And the reason part of the reason 470 00:25:00,337 --> 00:25:02,977 Speaker 1: I wrote that book was because then they wretch, They 471 00:25:03,097 --> 00:25:05,937 Speaker 1: go back and and write a new revisionist history of 472 00:25:05,937 --> 00:25:08,217 Speaker 1: what the Second Amendment is. How guns were you know, 473 00:25:08,257 --> 00:25:10,257 Speaker 1: how many people had guns in this country and all 474 00:25:10,257 --> 00:25:12,657 Speaker 1: that stuff. It's just all made up. They're like, oh, 475 00:25:12,737 --> 00:25:16,617 Speaker 1: well regulated, well regulated. You know, they're constantly pushing myths 476 00:25:16,657 --> 00:25:19,257 Speaker 1: about guns. If you don't like the Second Amendment, there 477 00:25:19,297 --> 00:25:21,737 Speaker 1: is a way to overturn it, if everyone agrees with you, 478 00:25:21,737 --> 00:25:24,777 Speaker 1: which they always tell me, everyone agrees with us about guns. 479 00:25:25,057 --> 00:25:28,257 Speaker 1: Overturned the Second Amendment. It can be done, and then 480 00:25:28,337 --> 00:25:30,017 Speaker 1: you can do what you like. But right now we 481 00:25:30,097 --> 00:25:32,057 Speaker 1: do have one and you can't do what you want. 482 00:25:32,097 --> 00:25:34,577 Speaker 1: You can't ban guns, and that is the long game 483 00:25:34,657 --> 00:25:37,657 Speaker 1: here for them, in my opinion, I'm gonna come back 484 00:25:37,697 --> 00:25:42,017 Speaker 1: here at a second, David, and talk about the realities 485 00:25:43,137 --> 00:25:46,617 Speaker 1: that Donald Trump faces here of the legal system being 486 00:25:46,657 --> 00:25:49,657 Speaker 1: i think very openly and obviously weaponized against him. We'll 487 00:25:49,657 --> 00:25:51,537 Speaker 1: get back to that in a moment. Born from the 488 00:25:51,537 --> 00:25:53,457 Speaker 1: tragedy of nine to eleven, the Tunnel of the Towers 489 00:25:53,497 --> 00:25:56,977 Speaker 1: Foundation has been honoring America's heroes ever since. 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Join me in donating eleven dollars a 505 00:26:40,577 --> 00:26:42,977 Speaker 1: month to Tunnel the Towers at t twot dot org. 506 00:26:43,017 --> 00:26:46,697 Speaker 1: That's t the number two t dot org. So, so, David, 507 00:26:46,737 --> 00:26:50,937 Speaker 1: I've a proposition for you. I'm reminded right now this 508 00:26:51,017 --> 00:26:56,577 Speaker 1: moment in time that during the Trump administration it became 509 00:26:57,497 --> 00:27:01,537 Speaker 1: standard among journalists to say we effectively we are no 510 00:27:01,817 --> 00:27:05,377 Speaker 1: longer journalists in the sense of people that report and 511 00:27:05,417 --> 00:27:08,977 Speaker 1: bring you facts. To be a journalistist, to be anti Trump, 512 00:27:08,977 --> 00:27:10,857 Speaker 1: because that is what the truth must be. Right. Remember 513 00:27:10,857 --> 00:27:13,417 Speaker 1: there were variations on that argument. That was what twenty 514 00:27:13,457 --> 00:27:17,137 Speaker 1: sixteen to twenty twenty, they were openly saying that the 515 00:27:17,137 --> 00:27:19,377 Speaker 1: truth is anti Trump, therefore you must be anti Trump 516 00:27:19,377 --> 00:27:21,097 Speaker 1: to bring you the truth. It was just like, you know, 517 00:27:21,857 --> 00:27:24,337 Speaker 1: the circular argument that justified everything they wanted to do. 518 00:27:25,057 --> 00:27:27,737 Speaker 1: I think we're seeing something similar to that with prosecutors 519 00:27:27,737 --> 00:27:33,257 Speaker 1: now in the legal system. Yeah, it reminds me journalisms 520 00:27:33,257 --> 00:27:35,857 Speaker 1: are good and not any analogy. I think the whole 521 00:27:36,097 --> 00:27:38,657 Speaker 1: anti Trump movement, and again that doesn't mean you have 522 00:27:38,697 --> 00:27:40,617 Speaker 1: to be pro Trump. I mean people who are willing 523 00:27:40,657 --> 00:27:44,777 Speaker 1: to break every norm, who don't care about, you know, 524 00:27:44,857 --> 00:27:50,817 Speaker 1: the constitution, who don't care about spreading misinformation about elections 525 00:27:50,857 --> 00:27:57,017 Speaker 1: and conspiracy theories. To win, they dropped all their supposed norms. 526 00:27:57,017 --> 00:27:59,737 Speaker 1: They became worse than Trump in every way imaginable to 527 00:27:59,817 --> 00:28:03,057 Speaker 1: stop Trump. And part of that is weaponizing the legal 528 00:28:03,097 --> 00:28:06,777 Speaker 1: system going after a president over a seven year year 529 00:28:06,777 --> 00:28:12,417 Speaker 1: old campaign finance charge, this demeanor. As far as I 530 00:28:12,497 --> 00:28:15,297 Speaker 1: know right now, I haven't seen exactly what the charges are, 531 00:28:15,337 --> 00:28:17,857 Speaker 1: but that's what it seems to be about. And then 532 00:28:18,017 --> 00:28:21,577 Speaker 1: making the biggest deal imaginable, imaginable out out of it. 533 00:28:21,697 --> 00:28:24,337 Speaker 1: And I don't want to be a conspiracy theorist myself, 534 00:28:24,337 --> 00:28:26,337 Speaker 1: but sometimes I think they're trying to elevate him and 535 00:28:26,417 --> 00:28:28,537 Speaker 1: make him more popular so that he'll run for a 536 00:28:28,537 --> 00:28:31,257 Speaker 1: present because they think they can beat him over to Santis. 537 00:28:31,297 --> 00:28:32,817 Speaker 1: I mean, that's sort of what it looks like to me. 538 00:28:33,017 --> 00:28:35,657 Speaker 1: I doubt people are playing three D chess. Maybe it's 539 00:28:35,697 --> 00:28:38,257 Speaker 1: all in my mind. It usually is, but that's what 540 00:28:38,297 --> 00:28:43,897 Speaker 1: they're doing effectively, right, And the idea the gall to 541 00:28:43,937 --> 00:28:46,817 Speaker 1: start talking about how no one's above the law after 542 00:28:46,857 --> 00:28:51,017 Speaker 1: what we saw with Hillary Clinton, who comey let off, 543 00:28:51,057 --> 00:28:54,457 Speaker 1: where there was just a mountain of evidence showing she 544 00:28:54,577 --> 00:28:58,817 Speaker 1: was guilty of felonies, not of misdemeanors. It's just and 545 00:28:58,897 --> 00:29:02,297 Speaker 1: others as well. It's just a joke. And it also 546 00:29:02,337 --> 00:29:05,417 Speaker 1: strikes me that the Hunter Biden phenomenon, it's so funny. 547 00:29:05,617 --> 00:29:08,177 Speaker 1: You've probably seen this a few times right where people, 548 00:29:08,257 --> 00:29:11,857 Speaker 1: you know, Democrats will rush to the defense of Hunter 549 00:29:11,897 --> 00:29:14,977 Speaker 1: Biden on something's just say, you know, it's not a 550 00:29:15,017 --> 00:29:17,657 Speaker 1: crime to take money because people want to talk to 551 00:29:17,657 --> 00:29:19,657 Speaker 1: your dad, and then everyone piles on and say as well, 552 00:29:20,057 --> 00:29:23,897 Speaker 1: smoking crack and buying a handgun, wire a crack user 553 00:29:24,257 --> 00:29:27,897 Speaker 1: and taking millions of dollars that you hide in LLCs 554 00:29:27,937 --> 00:29:31,657 Speaker 1: and from the Chinese and don't declare and don't pay taxes. 555 00:29:31,697 --> 00:29:34,897 Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of crimes that Hunter Biden one 556 00:29:35,817 --> 00:29:38,457 Speaker 1: is committed and we're just supposed to think like, no 557 00:29:38,537 --> 00:29:42,297 Speaker 1: big deal, nothing's gonna happen. Also, and also, you know, 558 00:29:42,817 --> 00:29:45,417 Speaker 1: sometimes corruption isn't criminal, and there's plenty it looks like 559 00:29:45,457 --> 00:29:47,857 Speaker 1: there's plenty of corruption there. But yeah, you're right. But 560 00:29:47,857 --> 00:29:49,737 Speaker 1: but do you notice how they say, you know, they 561 00:29:49,737 --> 00:29:52,177 Speaker 1: talk about Stormy Daniels, is that her name? Yeah, you 562 00:29:52,217 --> 00:29:55,697 Speaker 1: know how she was given hush money. There's nothing illegal 563 00:29:55,737 --> 00:30:00,137 Speaker 1: about signing, you know, giving someone hush money. We many 564 00:30:00,177 --> 00:30:01,857 Speaker 1: of us worked in places where we're not allowed to 565 00:30:01,857 --> 00:30:04,377 Speaker 1: talk about what goes that we signed contracts. We are 566 00:30:04,537 --> 00:30:06,257 Speaker 1: you know, you can pay people for that if you 567 00:30:06,297 --> 00:30:08,857 Speaker 1: want whatever. There's nothing wrong with that. But they create 568 00:30:08,857 --> 00:30:11,657 Speaker 1: they frame it as some kind something that is much 569 00:30:11,657 --> 00:30:14,417 Speaker 1: worse than it is now. I long before Trump have 570 00:30:14,497 --> 00:30:17,457 Speaker 1: been against these campaign finance laws completely because I think 571 00:30:17,497 --> 00:30:19,977 Speaker 1: they undermine the First Amendment in all kinds of ways. 572 00:30:20,337 --> 00:30:25,217 Speaker 1: But this basically is a is a bookkeeping a crime. Right, 573 00:30:25,617 --> 00:30:29,257 Speaker 1: it's a misdemeanor. Most people here, that's it. This is 574 00:30:29,297 --> 00:30:32,617 Speaker 1: another again, another argument where I don't you know, I 575 00:30:32,657 --> 00:30:35,537 Speaker 1: can sit here and with Democrats, like we could. I 576 00:30:35,577 --> 00:30:38,257 Speaker 1: could sit here with a Democrat and we could argue 577 00:30:38,417 --> 00:30:41,337 Speaker 1: over what the capital gains tax rate should be, right, 578 00:30:41,417 --> 00:30:43,417 Speaker 1: I mean, we could really we could have that debate. 579 00:30:43,417 --> 00:30:45,057 Speaker 1: You know, why should it be favored of it? But 580 00:30:45,097 --> 00:30:47,457 Speaker 1: it's a there's real arguments. I would have my side 581 00:30:47,457 --> 00:30:50,337 Speaker 1: that I would think is correct, but we're getting into 582 00:30:50,377 --> 00:30:52,257 Speaker 1: this realm where they're not. You know, on the on 583 00:30:52,297 --> 00:30:54,897 Speaker 1: the gun free zone school thing, for example, there's no argument. 584 00:30:54,937 --> 00:30:57,697 Speaker 1: They're all for, no argument for that. And on this one, 585 00:30:58,617 --> 00:31:03,617 Speaker 1: if Trump had done what they're prosecuting him for not doing, 586 00:31:04,057 --> 00:31:07,777 Speaker 1: which is if he had paid off Stormy Daniels with 587 00:31:07,977 --> 00:31:13,697 Speaker 1: campaign funds, that would clearly be a criminal use of 588 00:31:13,857 --> 00:31:17,097 Speaker 1: campaign funds, you know what I mean. Like, so the 589 00:31:17,137 --> 00:31:21,177 Speaker 1: thing that they're prosecuting him for not doing is illegal 590 00:31:21,337 --> 00:31:23,297 Speaker 1: the same way that the thing that they're prosecuted, or 591 00:31:23,417 --> 00:31:25,137 Speaker 1: rather that they would have been able to prosecute him 592 00:31:25,137 --> 00:31:27,617 Speaker 1: for for doing. He was damned if he did, damned 593 00:31:27,617 --> 00:31:29,457 Speaker 1: if he didn't. You see what I'm saying like, it 594 00:31:29,497 --> 00:31:33,057 Speaker 1: makes no sense that he was supposed to report this 595 00:31:33,177 --> 00:31:36,377 Speaker 1: as a campaign expense, because if it was a campaign expense, 596 00:31:36,777 --> 00:31:38,657 Speaker 1: he could have had a fundraise. You've taken money from 597 00:31:38,657 --> 00:31:41,177 Speaker 1: a fundraise your Trump between you know, twenty twenty Trump 598 00:31:41,177 --> 00:31:44,817 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen for president, and paid Stormy Daniels ten million 599 00:31:44,817 --> 00:31:49,937 Speaker 1: dollars with that money. Two things. One is my problem 600 00:31:49,937 --> 00:31:53,017 Speaker 1: with this, just as my problem with the press going 601 00:31:53,217 --> 00:31:56,177 Speaker 1: so hard after Trump all the time, not the lies, 602 00:31:56,297 --> 00:31:58,777 Speaker 1: just going after him hard, is that I'm not actually 603 00:31:58,777 --> 00:32:01,297 Speaker 1: opposed to that. I'm not actually posed to going after 604 00:32:01,337 --> 00:32:04,337 Speaker 1: a president on legal stuff. I'm a post to only 605 00:32:04,337 --> 00:32:08,297 Speaker 1: going after one president, only going after one party all 606 00:32:08,337 --> 00:32:11,577 Speaker 1: the time. I think all press and basically should be impeached. 607 00:32:11,737 --> 00:32:14,137 Speaker 1: But they don't do that. They go after the Republican 608 00:32:14,257 --> 00:32:16,337 Speaker 1: like you know, that's what bothers me. But moreover, I 609 00:32:16,337 --> 00:32:18,217 Speaker 1: just want to quickly say this, think about where this 610 00:32:18,257 --> 00:32:22,097 Speaker 1: all started. It started with Trump is a agent of 611 00:32:22,897 --> 00:32:26,497 Speaker 1: Putin Pot, he's a trader, and we end up with 612 00:32:26,537 --> 00:32:30,457 Speaker 1: a seven year old book keeping misdemeanor against him, and 613 00:32:30,497 --> 00:32:33,897 Speaker 1: they celebrate it like they've like they've uncovered water teet, 614 00:32:33,897 --> 00:32:36,137 Speaker 1: like this is Nixon did you see. I mean CNN 615 00:32:38,417 --> 00:32:41,377 Speaker 1: has footage or the plane landing and the plane taking off, 616 00:32:41,657 --> 00:32:45,017 Speaker 1: all of this. They need him so badly for ratings, 617 00:32:45,017 --> 00:32:47,257 Speaker 1: it's not even funny, you know, I mean they need 618 00:32:47,377 --> 00:32:50,897 Speaker 1: him so bad. So I think the same way that 619 00:32:50,937 --> 00:32:55,217 Speaker 1: they often said that Trump supporters, they always accuse Trump 620 00:32:55,217 --> 00:32:57,577 Speaker 1: supporters of being in a cult. And there are books, 621 00:32:57,617 --> 00:32:59,017 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of books You're the Trump cult 622 00:32:59,017 --> 00:33:03,177 Speaker 1: and all this stuff. I actually do believe that there 623 00:33:03,297 --> 00:33:07,057 Speaker 1: is a cult of anti Trumpism, as in that there 624 00:33:07,097 --> 00:33:10,577 Speaker 1: are a lot of people for whom everything they know 625 00:33:10,857 --> 00:33:13,737 Speaker 1: and have known their whole adult lives about politics, about 626 00:33:13,737 --> 00:33:17,977 Speaker 1: the law, about common sense, when it comes to this individual, 627 00:33:18,457 --> 00:33:22,137 Speaker 1: somehow no longer no longer applies, right, like like everything 628 00:33:22,177 --> 00:33:24,657 Speaker 1: that we would you know, it is impossible to make 629 00:33:24,697 --> 00:33:28,137 Speaker 1: a good faith argument to me that prosecuting a president 630 00:33:28,217 --> 00:33:32,537 Speaker 1: under such a flimsy pretext doesn't kick open Pandora's box 631 00:33:32,617 --> 00:33:37,017 Speaker 1: in a massive way for a future nonsense like this, 632 00:33:37,177 --> 00:33:41,057 Speaker 1: other prosecutors, other things. And yet people that you would 633 00:33:41,057 --> 00:33:44,577 Speaker 1: think are somewhat somewhat I guess reasonable or serious and 634 00:33:44,657 --> 00:33:46,977 Speaker 1: other issues are in favor of this. They're like, yeah, 635 00:33:47,057 --> 00:33:50,857 Speaker 1: go get him. Yeah, they just I don't know what 636 00:33:50,897 --> 00:33:54,377 Speaker 1: they say. I think they don't care that it'll be 637 00:33:54,417 --> 00:33:57,177 Speaker 1: turned on them. And this has gone on since Trump 638 00:33:57,217 --> 00:33:59,977 Speaker 1: first began running. They think they can do whatever they want, 639 00:34:00,057 --> 00:34:02,177 Speaker 1: and when Republicans do it, they'll just pretend it's a 640 00:34:02,337 --> 00:34:05,617 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's fascism. I'll give you an example, 641 00:34:06,057 --> 00:34:08,497 Speaker 1: the laws passed on the banned books and the stuff 642 00:34:08,497 --> 00:34:10,937 Speaker 1: we were talking about in the schools. The left has 643 00:34:10,977 --> 00:34:15,617 Speaker 1: you have used those laws and those that those powers forever. 644 00:34:15,977 --> 00:34:20,297 Speaker 1: That's how they set all kinds of school agendas. But 645 00:34:20,337 --> 00:34:23,537 Speaker 1: when Republicans do it, it's immediately fascism. This is how 646 00:34:23,657 --> 00:34:26,977 Speaker 1: they work. So I think they don't see it that way. 647 00:34:26,977 --> 00:34:29,577 Speaker 1: As far as the cult stuff, a thousand percent, Like, 648 00:34:29,817 --> 00:34:33,097 Speaker 1: first of all, it's not as if people liberals ran 649 00:34:33,177 --> 00:34:35,937 Speaker 1: around being critical of Barack Obama or run around being 650 00:34:35,977 --> 00:34:37,857 Speaker 1: critical of Joe Biden. They're in the same kind of 651 00:34:37,897 --> 00:34:40,257 Speaker 1: cult as Trump supporters are in. You know, maybe I 652 00:34:40,257 --> 00:34:43,497 Speaker 1: think maybe Trump is because of his personality, Garners more 653 00:34:44,137 --> 00:34:47,257 Speaker 1: or did more loyalty. But look now there's a big 654 00:34:47,577 --> 00:34:51,577 Speaker 1: break within Republicans. Some support the Santists, some support Trump. 655 00:34:51,857 --> 00:34:53,777 Speaker 1: That's a kind of thing that shows that it's not 656 00:34:53,857 --> 00:34:56,137 Speaker 1: any kind of cult like you know, I mean brought 657 00:34:56,177 --> 00:34:59,137 Speaker 1: to your point, Barack Obama won a Nobel Peace Prize 658 00:35:00,097 --> 00:35:05,577 Speaker 1: for getting elected. That's a real thing, right exactly, which 659 00:35:05,617 --> 00:35:08,057 Speaker 1: is embarrassing, and then the Nobel Committee should be embarrassed 660 00:35:08,057 --> 00:35:10,617 Speaker 1: forever about although then again Arafat, there's there are some 661 00:35:10,697 --> 00:35:14,857 Speaker 1: other bad ones too. Yeah, absolutely, But you know, for 662 00:35:15,017 --> 00:35:18,337 Speaker 1: years Barack Obama, there would be these you know stories 663 00:35:18,337 --> 00:35:20,537 Speaker 1: where they put halos or you know, pictures they put 664 00:35:20,617 --> 00:35:22,697 Speaker 1: halos around them and write about them as there's some 665 00:35:22,897 --> 00:35:26,297 Speaker 1: messianic figure, you know. So, I mean, this happens with 666 00:35:26,377 --> 00:35:28,257 Speaker 1: every president. I don't like it. I don't like it 667 00:35:28,337 --> 00:35:32,177 Speaker 1: at all. But I think that within the Republican Party, 668 00:35:32,257 --> 00:35:35,937 Speaker 1: like or you know, I debate with like national conservative 669 00:35:35,977 --> 00:35:38,337 Speaker 1: types all the time. Like there there are debates on 670 00:35:38,417 --> 00:35:40,937 Speaker 1: the right, there are very few of those on the left. 671 00:35:40,977 --> 00:35:45,297 Speaker 1: The central mainstream left has moved to where the progressive 672 00:35:45,377 --> 00:35:48,417 Speaker 1: left is. They're they're just talking about how much money 673 00:35:48,457 --> 00:35:50,217 Speaker 1: they want to spend. There's a little bit off, but 674 00:35:50,337 --> 00:35:54,377 Speaker 1: their goals are exactly the same. Take abortion. It began 675 00:35:54,537 --> 00:35:56,577 Speaker 1: with the you know, there was a moderate middle of 676 00:35:56,577 --> 00:35:59,577 Speaker 1: the road position in the Democratic Party. Now it's nine months. 677 00:35:59,777 --> 00:36:02,297 Speaker 1: You know, do what you want whenever you want, and 678 00:36:02,977 --> 00:36:05,137 Speaker 1: you can go on and on issue after issues. So 679 00:36:05,257 --> 00:36:07,657 Speaker 1: I don't buy their narrative. And again I'm not a 680 00:36:07,697 --> 00:36:11,257 Speaker 1: Trump fan, but they make people defend Trump because they 681 00:36:11,337 --> 00:36:15,417 Speaker 1: act in authoritarian ways to try to bring down this supposed, 682 00:36:15,657 --> 00:36:19,177 Speaker 1: you know, dictator. He's not even president now, right, he's 683 00:36:19,217 --> 00:36:22,097 Speaker 1: not doing anything to anyone. He's running and they are 684 00:36:22,137 --> 00:36:24,097 Speaker 1: still doing this stuff. So we'll see how. You know, 685 00:36:24,417 --> 00:36:26,417 Speaker 1: he's gonna be found innocent, then then what are they 686 00:36:26,457 --> 00:36:29,177 Speaker 1: going to say about about it? Right? I mean, let's 687 00:36:29,217 --> 00:36:31,217 Speaker 1: say he's found innocent of the charges. Let's say he 688 00:36:31,257 --> 00:36:34,217 Speaker 1: fights it. What are they going to say. We're gonna say, yeah, 689 00:36:34,257 --> 00:36:36,497 Speaker 1: this is what the law. The law. Obviously you said 690 00:36:36,537 --> 00:36:38,537 Speaker 1: follow the law. You said, no one's above justice and 691 00:36:38,657 --> 00:36:42,337 Speaker 1: he's innocent. Will they admit he's innocent? Of course not. Yeah, 692 00:36:42,377 --> 00:36:45,857 Speaker 1: it will never stop. And also I think that, well, 693 00:36:46,377 --> 00:36:49,817 Speaker 1: do you think that there will be other prosecutions Georgia 694 00:36:50,217 --> 00:36:54,977 Speaker 1: the Fed's Jack Smith special counsel, what do you think? Yeah? 695 00:36:55,017 --> 00:36:57,137 Speaker 1: I mean, if they're moving forward. And again I'm not 696 00:36:57,177 --> 00:36:59,617 Speaker 1: saying there's some concerted effort here. I don't know who 697 00:36:59,657 --> 00:37:01,737 Speaker 1: Alvin Bragg speaks to or doesn't speak to or if 698 00:37:01,777 --> 00:37:04,377 Speaker 1: he cares. But if they're going after him on this, 699 00:37:04,777 --> 00:37:07,337 Speaker 1: why wouldn't they go after him on those Georgia charges, 700 00:37:07,417 --> 00:37:11,577 Speaker 1: which I think are kind of ridiculous as well. But yeah, 701 00:37:11,617 --> 00:37:14,097 Speaker 1: they'll keep going after him. I mean, they impeached him twice. 702 00:37:14,137 --> 00:37:16,297 Speaker 1: They'll keep going after him and after him. And if 703 00:37:16,337 --> 00:37:19,817 Speaker 1: de Santists, let's say, somehow wins the nomination, they'll go 704 00:37:19,897 --> 00:37:22,377 Speaker 1: after him the same way. You already see articles saying 705 00:37:22,417 --> 00:37:24,897 Speaker 1: how he's worse than Trump because he's smarter than Trump, 706 00:37:24,977 --> 00:37:28,137 Speaker 1: because he's you know, smoother than he's more, you know, 707 00:37:28,257 --> 00:37:30,417 Speaker 1: he knows what he's doing, you know, with government better 708 00:37:30,497 --> 00:37:33,257 Speaker 1: than Trump. I mean, so it's it's like how they 709 00:37:33,377 --> 00:37:37,577 Speaker 1: used to hate, you know, they always hate the worst Republicans, 710 00:37:37,617 --> 00:37:39,737 Speaker 1: always the newest one and the old one they'll give 711 00:37:39,857 --> 00:37:42,057 Speaker 1: brudging respect to as you move forward, you know, one 712 00:37:42,097 --> 00:37:43,937 Speaker 1: day they'll be like, ah, yeah, Trump wasn't that bad 713 00:37:44,017 --> 00:37:46,977 Speaker 1: compared to that to Santists. You know, I don't know. 714 00:37:47,097 --> 00:37:50,377 Speaker 1: That's what it seems like to me. It's absolutely the case. 715 00:37:50,897 --> 00:37:54,977 Speaker 1: Do you think that at some level do Democrats recognize 716 00:37:55,017 --> 00:37:57,257 Speaker 1: that the whole Joe Biden thing. I mean, I would 717 00:37:57,337 --> 00:38:00,897 Speaker 1: argue that Fetterman, who I know has just come out 718 00:38:00,937 --> 00:38:03,057 Speaker 1: of the hospital. He says he's been hospitalized for depression 719 00:38:03,137 --> 00:38:05,657 Speaker 1: for I don't know, almost two months or something. That 720 00:38:05,777 --> 00:38:07,457 Speaker 1: when you put somebody who had a stroke in a 721 00:38:07,537 --> 00:38:11,297 Speaker 1: serious medical condition and clearly is not medically capable of 722 00:38:11,977 --> 00:38:15,657 Speaker 1: really doing any job that requires intensive thought and serious 723 00:38:15,737 --> 00:38:20,217 Speaker 1: consideration of complex issues, that if they'll, if they'll push 724 00:38:20,257 --> 00:38:22,897 Speaker 1: Fetteran forward, and they did, then it's no problem to 725 00:38:22,937 --> 00:38:25,137 Speaker 1: push Joe Biden forward for a second term. Which is 726 00:38:25,177 --> 00:38:26,857 Speaker 1: why I thought Biden is going to be I thought 727 00:38:26,897 --> 00:38:29,417 Speaker 1: the whole time he's going to be there, their second 728 00:38:29,497 --> 00:38:32,497 Speaker 1: term guy, and he's going to run for reelection. But 729 00:38:32,577 --> 00:38:34,577 Speaker 1: do you think at some level there's a recognition of 730 00:38:34,777 --> 00:38:38,857 Speaker 1: just the the the absurdity of Joe Biden in his 731 00:38:38,977 --> 00:38:42,137 Speaker 1: best days was a not a very bright guy, a 732 00:38:42,257 --> 00:38:44,457 Speaker 1: not a very nice guy, and not a very ethical guy. 733 00:38:44,977 --> 00:38:47,617 Speaker 1: And now on top of that, he really is somebody 734 00:38:47,657 --> 00:38:53,097 Speaker 1: who like needs round the clock hare in a seniors home. Yeah. 735 00:38:53,177 --> 00:38:55,417 Speaker 1: I mean, if I think if there was some alternative 736 00:38:55,497 --> 00:38:58,297 Speaker 1: who they thought could win, they would move in that direction. 737 00:38:58,537 --> 00:39:00,057 Speaker 1: But I don't think there is one right now For 738 00:39:00,177 --> 00:39:03,017 Speaker 1: Democrats that I can think of, maybe Newsom, but I 739 00:39:03,097 --> 00:39:07,177 Speaker 1: don't I think they overestimate how that plays around the country. 740 00:39:07,657 --> 00:39:10,297 Speaker 1: So Biden's the man, And yeah, I don't know. I 741 00:39:10,377 --> 00:39:12,737 Speaker 1: think they must know. They must know that he's incompetent. 742 00:39:12,817 --> 00:39:14,697 Speaker 1: They must have known that he was a blowhard and 743 00:39:14,897 --> 00:39:17,577 Speaker 1: not very intelligent to begin you know. I just bring 744 00:39:17,617 --> 00:39:19,177 Speaker 1: it up because with a Trump thing. They hate Trump 745 00:39:19,257 --> 00:39:21,017 Speaker 1: so much, there's always this part of me wants to 746 00:39:21,097 --> 00:39:24,097 Speaker 1: point and be like and this, Joe Biden, this is 747 00:39:24,177 --> 00:39:26,257 Speaker 1: your answer, Like this is the best you guys can do. 748 00:39:26,617 --> 00:39:30,257 Speaker 1: It really is kind of mind blowing, I think because 749 00:39:30,417 --> 00:39:34,017 Speaker 1: he exudes or or maybe he's thought of as a 750 00:39:34,177 --> 00:39:36,457 Speaker 1: moderate sort of old timey because of how he you know, 751 00:39:36,457 --> 00:39:39,177 Speaker 1: because he's old and all that. But honestly, he has 752 00:39:39,257 --> 00:39:41,657 Speaker 1: no principles. There is literally and I've challenged people to 753 00:39:41,857 --> 00:39:46,057 Speaker 1: give me one issue where he's been consistent from beginning 754 00:39:46,097 --> 00:39:49,057 Speaker 1: to end in his career. What issue has he not 755 00:39:49,377 --> 00:39:52,497 Speaker 1: flipped onto wherever you know he thinks that you know 756 00:39:53,057 --> 00:39:55,297 Speaker 1: that will you know, we'll get the most Jews for 757 00:39:55,337 --> 00:39:59,057 Speaker 1: the squeezes. Yeah, totally exactly. So from a board, you know, 758 00:39:59,217 --> 00:40:01,417 Speaker 1: he was like pro one day he said he was 759 00:40:01,497 --> 00:40:03,857 Speaker 1: for what was that an amendment called the High Amendment. 760 00:40:04,017 --> 00:40:06,897 Speaker 1: Right during the election. There was some blowback on Twitter. 761 00:40:06,937 --> 00:40:08,417 Speaker 1: The next day comes out he says it's against the 762 00:40:08,457 --> 00:40:11,777 Speaker 1: High Amendment. That's like forty five years of politics that 763 00:40:11,897 --> 00:40:14,377 Speaker 1: he just threw in the garbage because he thought he 764 00:40:14,577 --> 00:40:17,137 Speaker 1: needed to say something else. So, but here's the thing 765 00:40:17,177 --> 00:40:19,577 Speaker 1: about him being old and every and I get it, 766 00:40:19,737 --> 00:40:22,537 Speaker 1: and everyone's all over, you know, all over that. But 767 00:40:22,657 --> 00:40:23,937 Speaker 1: here's the thing. I don't like to give him a 768 00:40:23,977 --> 00:40:26,657 Speaker 1: pass because he was terrible before this. He was not 769 00:40:26,897 --> 00:40:29,897 Speaker 1: right before. He was a liar before this. He was 770 00:40:29,937 --> 00:40:34,177 Speaker 1: a fabuloust from the beginning. So I can't believe that 771 00:40:34,257 --> 00:40:37,777 Speaker 1: a guy who was mentored by segregationist has the gall 772 00:40:37,857 --> 00:40:40,897 Speaker 1: to go out there and talk about civil rights movement 773 00:40:40,977 --> 00:40:42,857 Speaker 1: like he does, or you know, who was basically a 774 00:40:42,977 --> 00:40:46,217 Speaker 1: social conservative gets to talk about Christians the way he does. 775 00:40:47,777 --> 00:40:49,777 Speaker 1: But that's what politics is today. I think it's all 776 00:40:49,777 --> 00:40:51,937 Speaker 1: about power and they don't really care who's there as 777 00:40:51,977 --> 00:40:54,697 Speaker 1: long as they get to run the White House. David, 778 00:40:54,697 --> 00:40:57,177 Speaker 1: where should folks go to follow you and read your 779 00:40:57,257 --> 00:41:01,577 Speaker 1: latest columns? The Federalist dot com is where most of 780 00:41:01,657 --> 00:41:03,937 Speaker 1: my stuff is and They can follow me on Twitter 781 00:41:04,057 --> 00:41:08,417 Speaker 1: at David Harsani. Hopefully you know. I hate being on there, 782 00:41:08,457 --> 00:41:11,497 Speaker 1: but I am on there. I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm 783 00:41:11,537 --> 00:41:13,897 Speaker 1: the same. It's a toxic place to be these days, 784 00:41:13,977 --> 00:41:17,297 Speaker 1: right David, a very good friend and colleague, a colleague 785 00:41:17,337 --> 00:41:19,537 Speaker 1: of mine in the business, once described David. I thought 786 00:41:19,577 --> 00:41:22,657 Speaker 1: this is a great description as gutsie in his writing, 787 00:41:22,857 --> 00:41:25,337 Speaker 1: but not showy about it, which I thought you'd appreciate, 788 00:41:26,817 --> 00:41:29,297 Speaker 1: not like trying to get, you know, undue attention, just 789 00:41:29,777 --> 00:41:34,537 Speaker 1: GUTSI and what he writes. David. Thanks, yeah, yeah, thanks 790 00:41:34,537 --> 00:41:36,017 Speaker 1: so much for being with us man, appreciate it. We'll 791 00:41:36,017 --> 00:41:37,457 Speaker 1: see you soon anytime. Thank you.