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Speaker 1: What the fuck is up?

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Speaker 2: Guys?

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Speaker 1: Can I be heard?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Heard you sing?

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Speaker 1: I have heard?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Guys don't talk to each another like that? Enough man,

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Speaker 4: scene and herd is important? What the fuck y'abut up to?

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Speaker 1: Nigga? We've been fucking in my eighth for hellas dog?

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Speaker 5: Do we do we even fucking internet anymore?

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Speaker 1: Bro? Dog Dog? I don't know, bro like motherfuckers, was like,

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Speaker 1: y'all beefing this nigga hit me.

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Speaker 4: Up, he was like, he was like, Bro, I don't

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Speaker 4: mean the pride, but uh, you got any more of them?

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Speaker 1: Jiggins and Jones hit me and my damn and ship.

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Speaker 1: Nigga might have forgotten how to do this ship?

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Speaker 6: Oh got the bad talk, come up fast bush stamped up,

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Speaker 6: get the past, then up pushing. But like the big dogs,

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Speaker 6: you need the snakes when you've got the grass cart

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Speaker 6: crash spinners, when the car stop the frals don't she

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Speaker 6: like gott it cuts, stop cutting the frals. Stump can't

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Speaker 6: be in at the cun shot like a cun shop.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna give them.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna give them what they.

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Speaker 1: Got both got here, man, what'll been on though?

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Speaker 8: Ship?

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Speaker 5: Same old ship man, not a motherfucking thing.

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Speaker 1: That's the best thing to be on.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, not being on the motherfucking thing is

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Speaker 7: It's cool, man.

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Speaker 2: I've been working like dog, bro, I'll use it.

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Speaker 9: It's very nice to be on a podcast where we're

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Speaker 9: bullshitting instead of working.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Hey, hold up, man, because I remember this was way

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Speaker 7: back during our last podcast, back in like fucking twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 5: It feels like, but you dropped the news.

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Speaker 7: That that you and your homie are doing a book

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Speaker 7: on the history of Polly.

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Speaker 5: Yes, yes, congratulations, motherfucker. That's a big deal.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Bro, I appreciate it. Thanks.

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Speaker 9: We've actually been working on it for like a couple

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Speaker 9: of years, but it was like they decided to make

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Speaker 9: this deadline the real deadline.

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Speaker 2: So uh yeah, we got to finish up all the

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Speaker 2: photos on.

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Speaker 9: Sunday, so I'm like not really sleeping, and then i

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Speaker 9: gotta like we basically have to rate the October so Hill,

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Speaker 9: it'll be good.

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Speaker 1: Club bro.

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Speaker 9: Uh, it's not gonna be up till next year, man,

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Speaker 9: but well, well we'll figure something out for sure.

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Speaker 2: I'll definitely. Yeah, it's gonna be cool.

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Speaker 9: I got there's like cool news about who's doing some

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Speaker 9: stuff with us on it that I can't really put

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Speaker 9: out there yet, but I'm fired up about it's gonna

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Speaker 9: be cool.

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Speaker 7: And And just to clarify to the people out there

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Speaker 7: who aren't hip to the Cali lingo and don't know

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Speaker 7: what Polly is, it's it's Long Peach Polytechnical High School,

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Speaker 7: which is a fucking football powerhouse and a school that

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Speaker 7: Snoop Dogg and Cameron Dey has went to at the

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Speaker 7: same time, because Long is a unique fucking place.

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Speaker 9: It's a weird place, bro, it's a it's a weird,

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Speaker 9: cool place, and that's cool is sort of the nexus

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Speaker 9: of it in some ways.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, we're we're fired up. It's gonna be a

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Speaker 2: lot of fun. A lot of a lot of work,

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Speaker 2: but a lot of fun too.

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Speaker 5: Can excited, man, I can't reguly to read that ship.

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Speaker 1: Funk out that ship, bro, the funk out of it.

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Speaker 9: Let's let's all the fucking of it.

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Speaker 1: Cool.

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Speaker 4: So I saw Tyler you you tweeted that, uh that

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Speaker 4: Thanksgiving dinner picture. I can't get that waffle waffle, bro.

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Speaker 1: The fucking waffle.

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Speaker 7: About to say about to say, go ahead, I was

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Speaker 7: about to say that ship was just like laying back

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Speaker 7: in the cut and then it just like stole the

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Speaker 7: whole show.

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Speaker 5: Like We're like, there.

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Speaker 7: Is such a thing as a Thanksgiving waffle, and it

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Speaker 7: looks like it's either corn bread or stuffing.

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Speaker 1: Dude, is a corn bread or stuffing?

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Speaker 4: I don't know the difference, nigger, Like, honestly, Bro, Honestly, Bro,

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Speaker 4: I looked at that ship, man, and I'm like, like,

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Speaker 4: I can't. It's in my head like I need it.

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Speaker 4: I need it, and I need to know when I

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Speaker 4: can get it.

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Speaker 2: Bro.

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Speaker 1: Like I want to, Dude, that ship. I want to

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Speaker 1: I want to make sweet funk to that ship.

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Speaker 5: Bro.

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Speaker 1: Like, Bro, I mean, dog, that is that not the prettiest.

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Speaker 10: Fucking like like the thought of that a corn bread

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Speaker 10: waffle stuffing waffle?

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Speaker 5: I mean with turkey and Cravey on top, that's bro,

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Speaker 5: the mac of.

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Speaker 11: Chee's with the hard kind of black cheese a little

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Speaker 11: bit on the top, you feel me.

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Speaker 1: The grease all that ship was kind of like on

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Speaker 1: top of each other touching. That's the only way to

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Speaker 1: enjoy that, Bro. I can't get out of my head.

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Speaker 5: Man, It's to be hanging up in the museam man.

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Speaker 4: That nigga, Dog, I'm I'm dead ass in over one body.

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Speaker 4: I'm salivating right now talking about this ship.

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Speaker 7: Bro.

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Speaker 9: I was kind of offended you said that you would

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Speaker 9: fuck that waffle with a condomm.

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Speaker 2: Bro like that.

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Speaker 1: I'm not ready for kids, bro. And if I let

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Speaker 1: Lucia that motherfuckers don't get pregnant.

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Speaker 4: You feel me, or or I'm gonna get overwhelmed and

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna be able to stay hard.

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Speaker 1: Nigga.

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Speaker 4: That's that that bad Nigga, see a whole many you

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Speaker 4: feel me. I might be nervous in this motherfucker man

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Speaker 4: going Broa and that ship, Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 1: That ship is that's I mean, that's one of the

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Speaker 1: Usually the plates that.

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Speaker 4: Go viral are plates that are extremely underwhelming, you know

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Speaker 4: what I mean, like the like the seafood plate that

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Speaker 4: Shorty was selling.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I ain't see that ship, Nigga.

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Speaker 5: I ain't see it, but I know it was parsley

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Speaker 5: all over that nigga.

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Speaker 4: Was unseasoned, unseasoned shrimp and just fucking boiled potatoes. Nigga,

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Speaker 4: I ain't see it was the peinkest shrimp I've ever

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Speaker 9: I was gonna say it was like the shrimp came

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Speaker 9: out of a like a bag and the freezer and

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Speaker 9: she knocked the ice off of it.

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Speaker 2: Basically pale pale.

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Speaker 1: Bro. I was like, damn, nigga, you can't call this.

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Speaker 1: You can't caught his no plate or nothing, nigga. Shit

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Speaker 1: is horrible.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, but that that's I'm glad something solid

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Speaker 4: went viral.

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Speaker 2: Bro.

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Speaker 1: We needed that in it on the internet.

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Speaker 9: Bro, No, that's a good point because it's only ever

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Speaker 9: the shitty food that goes viral on Twitter and then

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Speaker 9: like it a good placer for Instagram, you know what

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Speaker 9: I mean?

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Speaker 1: Right right? But that was so good the niggas had

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Speaker 1: to respect it, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: That was Man, who I need something like that? And

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Speaker 4: when I go Thanksgiving, I'm the type of nigga bro

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Speaker 4: I get it. I get a baking like a baking

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Speaker 4: uh the little what's that little not the bowl? The

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Speaker 4: glass wear ship the little baking glass or ship?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't eat out of plates and Thanksgiving nigga,

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Speaker 4: you feel me? I feel that bitch up to the

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Speaker 4: browm you know what I mean, Like you said, what right?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: Right right?

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Speaker 4: So I'm looking forward to that ship. But all right, bro,

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Speaker 4: I guess we let's start the podcast off.

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Speaker 8: Bro?

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Speaker 1: Is this what we do? Is what I thought?

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Speaker 2: We were just talking?

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Speaker 12: Right?

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Speaker 4: We just started being freshed. They're talking for we was

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Speaker 4: catching up in this bitch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So I guess the Jenkins and Jones podcast begins now,

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Speaker 4: or it's already began.

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Speaker 1: We don't know what the fuck we're doing anymore. I

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Speaker 1: am the Jethro Jens.

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Speaker 5: I'm Dragonfly Jones, I'm Mike.

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Speaker 4: I love saying that ship, man. I love how people

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Speaker 4: tweet you in caps to Bro.

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Speaker 9: You know, listen, I will be I will be out

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Speaker 9: in public and people will recognize me Mike from Twitter.

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Speaker 2: Some of them will start doing your fucking guard.

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Speaker 1: It's a thing now.

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Speaker 9: Bro, Hey, real life, and I should have even texted

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Speaker 9: you about this, but that ship happened to me at

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Speaker 9: Target last week.

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Speaker 1: Bro, somebody said, yes, that is great, that is perfect

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Speaker 1: God laughing.

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Speaker 9: I can't wait to try and explain to my son

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Speaker 9: why people are saying his last name that way to

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Speaker 9: when he's like second.

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Speaker 4: Bro, there was this thing that people used to have

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Speaker 4: called podcasts.

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Speaker 1: You might not be familiar with it, but we.

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Speaker 4: Still had the internet right right, There's no telling what

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Speaker 4: the fuck would be going on when he's in that

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Speaker 4: at that age. Broh, dude, Like there's there's there's have

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Speaker 4: you seen like the ship that's going on with like

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Speaker 4: AI characters and ship.

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Speaker 1: Now we'll talk about that. We'll talk about that later, bro.

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Speaker 4: But anyway, let's let's we're talking about Kawhi, we'll talk

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Speaker 4: about I guess Cosby talk about mac Miller a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Jumping to Sidhartha, is that does that sound good?

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Speaker 2: Sounds good?

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Speaker 8: Cool?

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Speaker 13: Cool?

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Speaker 4: One thing I was thinking about probably before we protests

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Speaker 4: getting all the way started, nigga do okay? When I

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Speaker 4: was younger, I used to get lost a lot. That

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Speaker 4: was my favorite thing to do, right, I go in

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Speaker 4: the woods to just get lost. Do niggas get lost anymore?

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Speaker 2: Bro?

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Speaker 14: No?

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Speaker 7: Like no, like nobody ever, Like you're always connected?

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Speaker 1: Is that not stressful at all? Is that? Do you

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Speaker 1: guys to find that stressful in any way?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah? Mother?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Like like when I was a kid too, Like

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Speaker 7: sometimes I would do the whole you know, go go

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Speaker 7: as far deep in the woods as I can't before

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Speaker 7: I get scared and guy have to turn back around.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, but I don't know, man, It is just

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Speaker 5: it's different with these kids these days.

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Speaker 9: Man, I didn't grow up near any woods, but uh,

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Speaker 9: my grandpa had like three fig trees in his backyard.

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Speaker 2: And so sometimes we go hide behind the fig trees.

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Speaker 1: I guess that's considered woods for Cali.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like you'd be surprised.

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Speaker 9: Like my son at his preschool, there's so many kids

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Speaker 9: there that have like GPS chips.

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Speaker 2: And their fucking shoes and stuff, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. That's honestly, bro, rather than me live.

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Speaker 4: Like, yeah, dude, I mean honestly, I trip off the

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Speaker 4: That's really weird, and everybody has access to you, you

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Speaker 1: Like I'm doing this thing. Next time I go out

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Speaker 9: Yeah, we try to do that when we travel, My

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Speaker 9: you know what I mean. Like you're just driving like

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Speaker 4: Like when I'm on dates, I have to give my

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Speaker 15: Bro.

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Speaker 1: Well I'll be on a date looking at my ship

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Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, here, I just put on his face

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Speaker 4: because I'll be that Connec's just ridiculous, bro, Like I

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Speaker 4: do you guys?

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Speaker 2: Have you do you guys have Twitter notifications onto your phone?

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Speaker 7: It's like who no, No, my ship would be buzzing

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Speaker 7: non stop, That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: So you just leave.

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Speaker 9: You just turns off and just like whenever you log in,

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Speaker 7: In there or what yep, and I ain't scrawling down

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Speaker 5: That's tough on you, bro. That's it's another bit.

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Speaker 1: See it or don't see it. That's what I might

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like like yeah that I left I left notifications

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Speaker 4: in twenty fourteen, a nigga, Yeah, yeah, that be dead.

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Speaker 9: It is crazy though, considering that like neither of you

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Speaker 9: that the appen.

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Speaker 2: I put it onto.

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Speaker 1: Your breaking up a little bit, you breaking up a

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Speaker 9: I was just it's crazy because it's now Twitter doesn't

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Speaker 1: Still you're still breaking up. I don't know what's going on.

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Speaker 1: Hold up?

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Speaker 2: Is this better?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 5: That's better. Get it the fuck together, Mike.

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Speaker 1: I know it's been a while.

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Speaker 2: I know, just used to talking to you in the

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Speaker 2: group chat and ship Michael.

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 16: either here, go ahead. I was just gonna say it's

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Speaker 16: even though I would say that they kind of should.

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Speaker 16: So it's just crazy to think, like the amount of

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Speaker 4: I don't do Tyler. I don't see how you are

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Speaker 4: super active. I don't see how you manage all that interaction,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Like I think over the years,

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Speaker 4: Like you know, but I don't even see.

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Speaker 1: How you do. You even look at your timeline much.

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Speaker 7: I Usually my routine is, usually I will fucking go

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Speaker 7: to a tweet. I will tweet some shit out, and

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Speaker 7: if it's some ship that I want to hear back

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Speaker 7: from mother motherfuckers on, I'll go on my mentions and

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Speaker 7: you know, kind of see people chiming and and ship.

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Speaker 7: If it's some ship where I'm just like getting my

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Speaker 5: That's how I feel. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Most of your nuts shaken, you feel me?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it really depends like like, sometimes I'm in,

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Speaker 7: I just want to, you know, get these tweets off moment.

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Speaker 7: Sometimes I'm in, like yo, I want to converse the motherfuckers, man,

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Speaker 7: get some some more fucking you know, opinions, some insights

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Speaker 5: So it kind of very varies for me.

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Speaker 1: Have been getting paid though, for sure.

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Speaker 4: All right, man, let's jump into the I guess the

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Speaker 4: thing that everybody is talking about Kuwi fucking kowee litter

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Speaker 4: Kawhi litter bro and it's fucking laugh. I'm gonna let

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Speaker 4: y'all start off with this ship because I'm interested in

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Speaker 4: seeing how y'all feel about this.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead.

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Speaker 7: I don't even I don't even know where he's sitting at.

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Speaker 4: Okay, bro, Bro, First off, have you ever heard that

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Speaker 4: come from anything?

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Speaker 1: That symbol is a human.

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Speaker 5: Listen, BRO, Like I was, I was seriously intrigued.

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Speaker 7: I was like, for real, we need like a linguist

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Speaker 7: or someone to like do some deep fucking analysis on

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Speaker 7: this ship, because I think we went into something unprecedented

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Speaker 4: Also, out of all things that caused Kawhi to laugh,

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Speaker 7: Was It's kind of funny though, like like when you

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Speaker 7: think about it, because he was like, I don't even

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Speaker 5: Like, that's kind of what he was laughing at.

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Speaker 1: He was laughing at that, that's funny.

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Speaker 4: But what it seemed like to me was like he

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Speaker 4: was he said, like, you have to talk to me personally,

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Speaker 4: answer this question. And he just asked you personally that

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Speaker 4: question Like that made I was like, I don't get it.

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Speaker 4: I'm confused, and then he was like whatever, whatever whaling?

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Speaker 4: That isn't that was a whale that came out of

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Speaker 4: his mouth. I just I'm confused, But we got into it, Mike.

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Speaker 1: What do you think before we get to it, before

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Speaker 9: It's just like it sounds like someone fell on some

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Speaker 2: It just its like it doesn't sound like a human noise,

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Speaker 4: And okay, we talked about this in a group set Tyler,

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Speaker 4: what were you saying about it?

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Speaker 1: And you know, the only person I saw somebody else

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Speaker 4: Now the more I watch it, it's sad because of

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Speaker 1: I'm interested what y'all think. So what what what were

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Speaker 2: Yeah? You know?

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Speaker 5: And then and then another clip popped up from two

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Speaker 1: I saw that. I saw that. Yeah, well yeah, and

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Speaker 7: Yeah, And I saw that ship and I was like, yo,

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Speaker 1: Sound like something escaped. That's the best way to describe.

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Speaker 2: The laugh.

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Speaker 5: That he did not normally do like he will. He

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Speaker 2: Dude?

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Speaker 1: You know he made after the first video that dropped,

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Speaker 5: Know where it came from?

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Speaker 1: He was like, what is this I'm experiencing, you know

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Speaker 9: He was like he was like a boy like just

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Speaker 9: bumped against something that you came in his pants for

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Speaker 1: Looked around like what is going on? Like like for real,

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Speaker 4: So that that that was funny, But I thought it

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Speaker 4: I don't necessarily think that. I think he's just really awkward,

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Speaker 4: That is the first time I've witnessed somebody laugh in

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Speaker 4: If you watch me, this guy's like I think when

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Speaker 1: Laughed seemed very confused too, Like he was laughing and

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Speaker 4: Then he actually like, okay, he laughed with Kawhi a

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Speaker 4: He heard Kawhi and it seem like a mixture of

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Speaker 2: So to get scientific with it, like, let's do what so.

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Speaker 9: That like when his mom tells him a joke and

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Speaker 9: that that's how he laughs, Like do you think that's

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Speaker 9: he's laugh Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I don't think there's any way that that was his comfortable,

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Speaker 7: you know, with the homies laugh.

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Speaker 17: At I don't know Bro's and never show yourself.

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Speaker 2: At all, you know what I mean? Like ever, like even.

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Speaker 4: What's so confusing about that laugh is we have nothing

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Speaker 1: This is the first time humans have witnessed this.

450
00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:03,280
Speaker 4: Okay, he Hawaii is a human, his laugh is extraterrestrial.

451
00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,520
Speaker 1: Bro, Okay, I see that's what.

452
00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:09,359
Speaker 2: I sort of feel. Tell Tyler. Deadspin put up us today.

453
00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,760
Speaker 9: The headline was, Kawhi Leonard has laughed at least eight

454
00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:16,520
Speaker 9: times before in his life. And it's just a supercut

455
00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:20,000
Speaker 9: of like other training camp or locker room videos where

456
00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,399
Speaker 9: he laughed, and it sounds like that every.

457
00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:27,920
Speaker 1: Time dude, this this there has to see. Matter of fact,

458
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,600
Speaker 1: why is you shut in the group chat? Bro?

459
00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,600
Speaker 14: The fine that that's almost disrespectful? You know that had

460
00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:38,639
Speaker 14: to be shared? You're gonna keep that in front of yourself? No,

461
00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,200
Speaker 14: that's that's incredible. That's an incredible insight that we don't have.

462
00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:42,440
Speaker 5: Bro.

463
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:44,520
Speaker 1: I just unprepared.

464
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:45,600
Speaker 5: I just.

465
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:49,600
Speaker 1: I just saw it.

466
00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,000
Speaker 2: I was sitting here waiting to call Tyler. I was

467
00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:52,600
Speaker 2: just looking at it.

468
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:56,160
Speaker 1: It was like what bro like dog like? It is?

469
00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 1: It is? It is a very interesting thing that we

470
00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:00,679
Speaker 1: have never this before.

471
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:05,160
Speaker 4: And we can't decide a lot of things currently because

472
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:06,479
Speaker 4: we have never seen this.

473
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,399
Speaker 1: It is the first of it's kind. Okay, so like

474
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,400
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. I can't decide if you know, hey.

475
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 4: This is this is the the koweeah wee laugh you

476
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:17,439
Speaker 4: feel me?

477
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,679
Speaker 1: Is this is this the why's laugh you feel me?

478
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 1: Or is this nerves? We don't know.

479
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,359
Speaker 4: And and I think somebody should really research it, like

480
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 4: somebody's to write, you know, somebody should do some research

481
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:31,919
Speaker 4: and that that that'd be very interesting.

482
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:32,879
Speaker 1: I would read the.

483
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, hell yeah. If I cover the spurs of.

484
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,920
Speaker 9: The raptors, I would be calling every person that has

485
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,200
Speaker 9: ever played right now, like just hey, no.

486
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,400
Speaker 2: Media around you came up behind that dude.

487
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 9: And like make some stupid joke whatever, like you know,

488
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 9: has anyone ever ticked Leonard that you've seen.

489
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 8: Anyone?

490
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 1: Whatever? But important question the important questions, you know what

491
00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,880
Speaker 1: I mean? No, like, but can we talk to Kauai

492
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 1: about this.

493
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 4: This is not Kawhi if that came out of his

494
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 4: mouth and he looked just as uncomfortable as everybody else

495
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:10,199
Speaker 4: that heard it.

496
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 1: Let's let's it's not you know. Let's let's address the

497
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 1: elephant in the room. Kawhi, bro, have you right right?

498
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:18,639
Speaker 18: My nigga?

499
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 10: My niggah is not for real? That's if that's see.

500
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 10: This is why kids are better than humans. If there

501
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 10: was a kid in that mother, what the.

502
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,719
Speaker 8: Fuck is going on?

503
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:39,919
Speaker 1: You know, my son would have my son would have.

504
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 2: His ass up.

505
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:44,439
Speaker 1: What the.

506
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:47,120
Speaker 2: Right?

507
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 1: Right? Right?

508
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,640
Speaker 4: The funniest ship I'm probably said it for the funniest

509
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 4: ship I've ever seen a kids say was what my

510
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:55,160
Speaker 4: stepdad had.

511
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,120
Speaker 1: Has the horseshoe, He's way.

512
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 4: He bought it all out now, but he used to

513
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 4: try to hold on to that here, which I don't

514
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 4: know why any human that is an adult that you

515
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 4: know has opportunity to make their own decisions.

516
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: We'll try to hold on it.

517
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 4: That shit he had that motherfucking horseshoe, you know, and

518
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,679
Speaker 4: the top hair was bald. And this kid looked at

519
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 4: him at all depot of all places, because like at home, depot,

520
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 4: old nigga should be able to be old.

521
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. He wasn't in the mall.

522
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 1: You know, he wasn't Discovery zone.

523
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 5: David, that's the truth zone right there.

524
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 4: He was in the plumbing section or looking at doors

525
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,919
Speaker 4: at home depot and this kid points at him and said, Daddy,

526
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 4: look his hands upside down.

527
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 1: Nigga.

528
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 19: He might as well been at home when that was said.

529
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 19: Being at home depot. It's like, damn nigga. But yeah,

530
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 19: kids say the darnedest things as people say, you know

531
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Speaker 19: what I mean?

532
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 1: But yo, like, for real, we need kids more.

533
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 4: Involved in things, just for situations like that where somebody who.

534
00:23:58,359 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: Is extremely pure.

535
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 4: And doesn't even understand you know, it hasn't been ruined

536
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 4: by the earth can say the absolute truth and the

537
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 4: things that everybody is thinking.

538
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 1: Kawhy, what the fuck was that? Bro?

539
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 17: You feel me like even if that kid cursed, yes,

540
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 17: that deserves a curse word, I would not, you know,

541
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 17: because do you know you just don't say what is that?

542
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,199
Speaker 1: That is a what the fuck is?

543
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 5: Yeah?

544
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 7: You know what I mean, But yeah that's some ship

545
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 7: where like you you stand up as a reporter and

546
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 7: you have to say like, like these words are not

547
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 7: reflect my employer.

548
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 5: But kawhi, what the fuck is that?

549
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 4: And you gotta look around like you know, like, sorry, guys,

550
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 4: I have to say this.

551
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? You know you're thinking that

552
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 1: this needs to be done, you know what I mean, Like.

553
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,439
Speaker 9: You gotta just yeah, you gotta put your pet at

554
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 9: the air and go quick follow up?

555
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:52,640
Speaker 1: Is that how you always? And if you do, why

556
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,919
Speaker 1: the fuck do you laugh like that? You know what

557
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: I mean? Like, I don't know, I don't Maybe it's

558
00:24:58,320 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: a nervous thing.

559
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 4: And even if it is, I think we should still

560
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 4: be able to laugh at that. I think I think

561
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 4: this is one of those situations where this is just

562
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 4: so honestly.

563
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: I can'tnot laugh at it. It's physically impossible. I've watched

564
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: it for days. Every time I see it, I laugh

565
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,439
Speaker 1: in a very confused manner. I'm like, I'm like this,

566
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: what what you know? That shouldn't come out of that?

567
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 15: Man?

568
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 4: You know, it's like it's not you know, It's like

569
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 4: it's not it's so involuntary, bro. It's like it's like,

570
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 4: you know, like when you're when you have to use

571
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 4: the restroom, you know what I mean, and like really

572
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 4: bad and and like you pooting the poots before the

573
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 4: ship come out.

574
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

575
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 4: That laugh is the poots, Nigga, that's the involuntary gas.

576
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 1: That comes with that ship. You know what I mean? Like,

577
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 1: I just.

578
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 3: That laugh.

579
00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 11: It's it's not a don't I can't even call to laugh, bro,

580
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 11: Like you said it's a whale. You know, it's more

581
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 11: reminiscent of a burd to me. I don't. I don't

582
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 11: understand it. I don't under understand.

583
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 1: I hate, but I don't understand it.

584
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 9: But anyway, were you smacking your table?

585
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 5: I just hit it. I just hit.

586
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 4: Because I'm literally I'm baffled, Bro, I'm baffled, and I

587
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 4: need answers.

588
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: I need answers. Dog, Okay, we.

589
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 9: Gotta do uh, we gotta do rock, paper and scissors,

590
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 9: and for which one of us has to become the

591
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 9: Neil de grass tyson of figuring that ship out?

592
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: Maybe we maybe you you said we should approach like

593
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: the Jabuda field, right it for like all ass maybe

594
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: up and do something.

595
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 4: Maybe we need to figure this ship out, bro, and

596
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 4: give it to the fucking internet, because this is not normal.

597
00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 1: Okay, none of this, the confusing around it, none of.

598
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 20: That ship man, like somebody's laugh was the topic of

599
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 20: the of of of the most dude Lebron's in La

600
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 20: right now, Bro, you know what I'm saying, Like this

601
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,360
Speaker 20: is it like this was a media day like everybody

602
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 20: and Kawhi's laugh was the most important.

603
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: Thing that happened that entire day. It definitely wasn't the

604
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: fucking cass that.

605
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 4: Was like the last day in school or like the

606
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 4: like the half day before Thanksgiving or Christmas or some

607
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 4: shit like your parents.

608
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: You don't like nobody showed up for that ship, bro,

609
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, Oh, speaking of nobody

610
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: showed up, there's a part.

611
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 4: In this new ship called there's a part in this

612
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 4: new show. There's a part in this new show called.

613
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: Uh American Vandal. There's a part where nobody saws. I

614
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: don't know that.

615
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 4: Just round me of that show. Y'all have to watch

616
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 4: American Vandel too. Have y'all seen the first one? Ah,

617
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 4: watch the first one because you have to watch the

618
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 4: person before the second one. But watch the first one

619
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 4: just when you watch the second one. The first one

620
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 4: is really good. The second one, Bro, come on you,

621
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I can't. I'm not gonna say what's going on?

622
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 4: Anybody listening to this watch American bandle two. It's important.

623
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 4: We all have to talk about this ship. It's really

624
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 4: it's really funny for weird reasons. And I think young

625
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 4: people kee why he's a writer and that ship. So

626
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 4: the young cat that's like a comedian that says all

627
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 4: the funny shit on Twitter.

628
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: Ye, yes, hilarious.

629
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 4: Anyway, back to what we're talking about, I guess we'll

630
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 4: just move on because we have no answers.

631
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: We have none, we have That's what That's what it is.

632
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, But but something, but something, you know, something that

633
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 7: I empathize with Kawhi about on that ship is like

634
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 7: like the ship that he's doing right, that's co worker ship,

635
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 7: you know what I mean?

636
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 5: Like he might he might be a dude who just.

637
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 7: Doesn't show you know, a lot of his personality, you know,

638
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 7: to to to his fucking and I empathize that because

639
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 7: I'm in the same fucking way. Like have y'all ever

640
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 7: had a moment where you just kind of like, you

641
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 7: do a joke out there that you thought it was funny,

642
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 7: and that shit just felt flat because you realize, Wow,

643
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 7: I'm really just working with motherfuckers who are twenty years

644
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 7: older than me and white and they don't get shit.

645
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 7: I mean, well, I mean, I know, John, you work

646
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 7: with young black people now, so that's like a problem

647
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 7: of the past.

648
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 5: You legitimately laugh at work and shit.

649
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 4: Yeah you know, yah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean but

650
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 4: even even in the past, I mean I've done that

651
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 4: where like I've said things that just nobody got because

652
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 4: I was the only brown person that resembled brown in

653
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 4: the room, you know what I mean in any way,

654
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 4: So yeah, like and at my age and like you know,

655
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 4: talking about Paul culture, so yeah, I'm hip to that,

656
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 4: But that wasn't my response.

657
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: The sound that came out of.

658
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 4: My mouth with sounds that people have heard, you know,

659
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 4: since before time, you know, I mean, this was a

660
00:29:58,800 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 4: brand new noise.

661
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: This was a brand new noise to humanity you may

662
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: never heard.

663
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 9: He's also, you gotta like, I totally hear what you're

664
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,959
Speaker 9: saying on the coworker thing. I've definitely done like a

665
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,959
Speaker 9: bad laugh at like sixty year old journalists plenty of times.

666
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 2: But you gotta remember, like he's not like he doesn't

667
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 2: have our jobs.

668
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 9: He's in the NBA, Like he's on national TV making

669
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 9: a joke of his own and laughing at it, and

670
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 9: like there is no footage that anyone has found of

671
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 9: him talking to dude his age, like other dudes from

672
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 9: southern California from similar backgrounds, where he's laughing like a

673
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 9: human being, Like there's no footage of it.

674
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: Dude, thank dog.

675
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 4: Honestly, if we get to compare him to something, we

676
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 4: have to leave human beings. We have to leave like

677
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 4: humans alone because it's not human, so we have to

678
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 4: move on to other beings.

679
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: Bro, that is okay.

680
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 9: Doesn't sound more like a robot or an alien if

681
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 9: you had to pick one.

682
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 4: I don't know what an alien sounds like, but that

683
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,239
Speaker 4: sounds like that. It sounds like a being that I

684
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 4: don't know what it sounds like, you know what I mean.

685
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 7: It sounds like someone who tried to make tried to

686
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 7: imitate laughter and got as close as they could.

687
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: No like like that that. I don't know if they

688
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: that even like you said, he seemed you said it

689
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: seemed suppressed.

690
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 2: I don't.

691
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: It didn't seem suppressed. It seemed like it hurt.

692
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 7: It seemed like some ship got away from a mid

693
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 7: laugh that he did not want to And he said

694
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 7: he showed that depression in his face, like he felt

695
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 7: like he let himself down after that ship, right.

696
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 4: Right, It's just honestly, honestly seemed like like like he didn't.

697
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 4: Have you ever seen a kid when they're like utterly

698
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 4: confused by something that's going on, Like it seemed like

699
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 4: what was going on at the moment didn't compute you

700
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 4: feel me like he it was we all witnessed something

701
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 4: like I knew it seemed like even Kawhi even though

702
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 4: he's but every time he laughs, he has that same

703
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 4: look of almost feared.

704
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:10,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, because that that might, like I said, that might

705
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 7: be some shit. He doesn't want to get out to

706
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 7: people he don't fuck with like that man.

707
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: You don't want his laugh, He doesn't want to be

708
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: happy around people.

709
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 4: Alreaysy nervous about it about his laugh.

710
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 5: He might it might be a bit of bouth.

711
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 7: He might not want to open up the motherfuckers, and

712
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 7: he might know that his laugh is open and he

713
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 7: doesn't want to share that with people who aren't in

714
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 7: this circle, one who haven't accepted his weird ass laugh.

715
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 2: Well, let me be honest with you. He's right to

716
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 2: feel that way. Oh yeah, for sure.

717
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: No, doubt.

718
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 4: I like, like I told you last night, I was

719
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 4: in four age in middle school. I did hoop to

720
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 4: balance all that shit out. But I was also in

721
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 4: the chess club. I was drowning and awkward. This is

722
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 4: in middle school, four age and chess in middle school.

723
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 4: Can you imagine how awkward motherfuckers were drowning? And I've

724
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 4: never witnessed sneaking, like never, never, not ever, So yes.

725
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 5: Yes, Doug, What's what? What do you think is like

726
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 5: the the the.

727
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 7: Best work joke you gave that just fell flat because

728
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 7: nobody fucking got it.

729
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: I don't remember that ship. I don't remember.

730
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 5: I distinctly remember one joke that I told you.

731
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: Tell me, I am excited.

732
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 7: This ship should have won an office Joke award. Like

733
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 7: it's not particularly funny, but it is office.

734
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: Funny, you know what I mean? We will be the

735
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: judge of that.

736
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 7: Yes, and I judged, and I trust you guys. Give

737
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 7: me your unbiased poenas. I think this was a pretty

738
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 7: fucking good work joke.

739
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: Go ahead, all right?

740
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 7: All right, So, so so I know I'm a recruiter. Right,

741
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 7: So so we had a you know, a meeting where

742
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 7: where you know it was talking about you know, growth,

743
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 7: and we needed to take on you know, new employees

744
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 7: and ship, and so we need a new recruiter to

745
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 7: come on board. And I was gonna be the person

746
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,239
Speaker 7: who was going to, you know, find that recruiter who

747
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 7: will come on board with us and ship. And so,

748
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 7: you know, I said, yeah, yeah, I accept this. Of

749
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 7: course I'll get it done. Blah blah blah, all the

750
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 7: all the corny work ship you.

751
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 5: Know, whatever will do.

752
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 7: So, you know, yeah, and so you know, we're rapping

753
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 7: up meeting up and ship, and they're like all right.

754
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 7: So so Tyler Man, you're on it. I'm like yeah,

755
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 7: And I said in my camera voice, I recruit the recruiters.

756
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 5: That's not.

757
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 17: That's very corny, but it's also it's very funny for

758
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:21,760
Speaker 17: the office.

759
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: It's a great office joke.

760
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 7: You know, they fell flat as fun Nobody got Okay, bro.

761
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 1: They don't know by no motherfucking killer cam nigga.

762
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, but come on, bro, you know what I'm saying,

763
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 5: They don't know.

764
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 4: So it really sounded like you saying I recruit the

765
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 4: recruiters they had.

766
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:43,439
Speaker 1: I mean, that's all.

767
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 4: It sounded like if you had no reference, that would

768
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 4: be like, what the fuck are you talking about my nigga?

769
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 7: You know it all comes Yeah, it all comes down

770
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 7: to the working by me because if you said that

771
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 7: ship that your gig, motherfuckers would die laughing.

772
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 1: I mean probably you know what I mean. Like, but

773
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: they but they about.

774
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 4: Purple Haze none of that ship though, you know what

775
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 4: I mean, Like they ain't hip none of that, you

776
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 4: know what I mean?

777
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,760
Speaker 1: Anyway, So I mean we, I mean it makes sense.

778
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 7: Conna, I feel I feel like that that's my will

779
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 7: one hundred game in the office with no fucking camera.

780
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 5: That's what I feel like.

781
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: They you shouldn't have gained them that they didn't.

782
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 5: Deserve you, right, they really fucking didn't deserve No, I mean.

783
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: Honestly, man, Like dude, you know you gotta know your audience.

784
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 4: I mean, did you really think anybody was gonna was

785
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 4: gonna be familiar with camera?

786
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: I'm serious? What did you think about that? Or just

787
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: came out?

788
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 7: Uh yeah, it just kind of came out, and then

789
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 7: you know, I kind of chucked it like wow, man,

790
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 7: that's funny.

791
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 5: And then that just then nobody nobody agreed.

792
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 9: You know, and then just and then just in your

793
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 9: deepest heart, you just start getting stacking up bricks and

794
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 9: putting concker in between them.

795
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: But the thing was, though.

796
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 4: You were getting comfortable, and then they fucked it up,

797
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 4: like because you it just the joke came out that

798
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 4: you were yourself for a moment, right, and then you

799
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 4: were like, this is why I'm never myself exactly.

800
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 5: And I think Kawhi might be going through that same

801
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 5: ship right about that.

802
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:09,959
Speaker 1: So we'll never hear to laugh again.

803
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't think we ever. We might not.

804
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm happy or sad, or or

805
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 4: or or or sad about that. I don't know if

806
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 4: that's good or bad, because.

807
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 7: I feel like that's I feel like that's I feel

808
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 7: like that laugh like gave us, you know, a fucking

809
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 7: three second clip into a side of humanity we've never

810
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 7: seen before, and it's just gone like that.

811
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: Now, No, don't say that. We need answers that can't

812
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: just be gone. We have to do it deep.

813
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 4: We need to do a deep fucking die. Okay, head

814
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 4: first into this motherfucking shit, guys, all right.

815
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 2: I'm on it. I'm on it.

816
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 4: We need to do a deep dive and we need

817
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 4: to figure this out. Figure out how how to give

818
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 4: this to the internet. We need to follow it seriously.

819
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 1: Maybe a mini doc'll.

820
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 2: Send you an elevator pitch tomorrow.

821
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 5: No, I'm serious, open up the Google doc.

822
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: Do you okay? Do you do?

823
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 13: You?

824
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: Do you know I'm serious right now?

825
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 2: Or I'm fucking serious. I'm jumping into it.

826
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 9: I'm gonna start emailing people to play high school basketball

827
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 9: with him tomorrow.

828
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 2: Let's do it.

829
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, okay, I'm getting excited. Now, don't play with me.

830
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: Eisenhower High School, my nigga left y'all right, all right,

831
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: let's move on to the next ship.

832
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 13: Many make up your mind.

833
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 5: I ain't the tax blow up your nye.

834
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: Look at me.

835
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 21: It's a stop in your eyes.

836
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 5: I just want to ch drown.

837
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: No side, shut shat shout.

838
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:07,720
Speaker 21: So you on a stipping babe, No, okay, no, because

839
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 21: you're my best decision. Believe some less from man in

840
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 21: your stance. Oh man, take off your pants, cancel your plans.

841
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 21: I understand you want a man.

842
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:23,720
Speaker 4: To be your friend.

843
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 21: You need this, yeh head, I got a plan because

844
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 21: you're broad and dad.

845
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: No play you.

846
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 21: No, no, well you have for that and not matchin dad.

847
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 5: But I'm ripping your waist.

848
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 13: We moved to your pay.

849
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 21: Well, I'll be your richet.

850
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,760
Speaker 1: I mean swing my page.

851
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 21: You think niggas full of that, and you think I'm

852
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 21: approve you. Right, No, baby here repleshing don't even know

853
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 21: how your sex he is.

854
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: I don't even question.

855
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 21: Any shen't do relationshift.

856
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 6: Nobody got at you, Nobody signed shot, stand sided at you, shouting.

857
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 5: Nobody not you, the money, static god, not you.

858
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: We ain't never milling, not you. We ain't even signed

859
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: out here.

860
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 21: Some lance from man he don't stands oh man, take

861
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 21: off you. Okay, cancel your playing. I understand you want

862
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:42,240
Speaker 21: a man.

863
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 4: To be your You need this ship.

864
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 2: I can't.

865
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:48,959
Speaker 1: Come home.

866
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 21: I got I'm paying your mouth and dad.

867
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's let's let's move to mattro One.

868
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,240
Speaker 1: Thing that's interesting are you talking about?

869
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 4: That's how you you said you're that you've really been

870
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 4: diving into his music.

871
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: As of late. Yeah. Uh and and and I right

872
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: right when I you know, I heard what happened to him.

873
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 4: I was like I was, it was It's so this

874
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 4: is this was so weird, just this was this is

875
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 4: what's really weird about the situation is you hear the

876
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 4: music like I I remember listening to faces when that

877
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 4: ship dropped, you know what I mean, Like, and I

878
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 4: remember hearing like the references to suicide or whatever. I

879
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 4: don't know if we don't know if it's a suicide yet.

880
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 4: I don't think it's been stated if it was or not,

881
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 4: but I guess there's an assumption there.

882
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: But uh, you.

883
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 4: Hear that stuff, and you know it kind of like

884
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 4: a lot of these sad songs kind of make you

885
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:51,760
Speaker 4: feel like you're not alone, and you feel like somebody

886
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 4: understands you, and it makes you feel better and it

887
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 4: takes you out of maybe a dark place at times,

888
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But it's so wow to

889
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 4: me that somebody that helped so many by expressing himself

890
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 4: like he couldn't find it seemed to me where he

891
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 4: couldn't find his own way out of that, and it's

892
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 4: just such a sad reality. It seems, you know what

893
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 4: I mean, that somebody that has helped so much and

894
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 4: it was also expressing so much love.

895
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: But one thing I do notice about myself when I.

896
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 4: Was younger or not younger, and I'm going through some

897
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 4: when I'm going through hard times, when I'm.

898
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: Struggling, I'm the nicest to people, you know what I mean.

899
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 4: Uh, for whatever reason, like when I'm struggling with like,

900
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 4: you know, anxiety, depressed, whatever, I expressed probably more love.

901
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: Than I do normally.

902
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 4: And I don't know if that's a normal thing or not,

903
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 4: but it seemed like he was everybody that he encountered

904
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 4: loved him.

905
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: And if I was, I remember watching videos.

906
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 4: Prior to you know, him dying and seeing like how

907
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 4: like he was beloved, like with the people that were

908
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 4: around him.

909
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, how they spoke. I mean,

910
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: before this, before his passing, people talked so.

911
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 4: Highly about him and he was and it's it's just

912
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 4: so it's it's it's really it's such a weird susposition

913
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 4: of somebody who's struggling, struggling so much internally, but it's

914
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 4: is is, you know, spreading.

915
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: So much love externally, you know what I mean?

916
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 5: Yeah?

917
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: But uh, what so what?

918
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 2: What? What?

919
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: What was Uh?

920
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,240
Speaker 4: You were saying you said something about his his music

921
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 4: and like things he was saying like and when you

922
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 4: were tweeting about him.

923
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: That was I thought I thought it was interesting.

924
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, So I just I just I just kind of

925
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 7: dug back into his mac Milarship, like he was a

926
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 7: dude who I never really you know, checked for because

927
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 7: you know, when when you burst on the scene, I

928
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 7: was like, hey, this get corrapt, but I really don't

929
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 7: see anything original in them, you know what I mean?

930
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 5: Or yeah about pride, yeah, and kids and all that shit.

931
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 7: I mean, like I said, the kid was always I

932
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 7: never thought he wasn't talented. I always he could rap

933
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 7: his ass off, but plenty of people can wrap their

934
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 7: ass off, and I didn't see, you know, if there

935
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 7: was anything that it really intrigued me that made me

936
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 7: want to check his music and shit. Yeah, and like

937
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 7: you know, I would enjoy when he would pop up

938
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 7: on features with like Earl and and then Freddie Gibbs

939
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 7: and shit.

940
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,439
Speaker 5: Just never yeah, I just never really dug into his ship.

941
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 7: And you know, so you know, he passed and I

942
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 7: just kind of you know, did a fucking you know

943
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 7: of course through his music and shit, and I was like, wow,

944
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 7: this kid really like evolved from being like a one

945
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 7: of many to like a one of one by his careers,

946
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 7: and it was like a hell of a progression, man, man.

947
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 5: I mean it's like you know, you you mentioned faces

948
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,280
Speaker 5: and that's like the project.

949
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 7: That that when I was like, wow, he really like

950
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 7: took that shit to another level there, like that was

951
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 7: just like like I first saw it, I was like,

952
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 7: twenty four tracks.

953
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 5: I don't want to hear all this shit?

954
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean?

955
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, a lot of music right right, And and there's

956
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 7: only like i'd say, like two throwaways on that whole

957
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 7: fucking project at that many And and I went through

958
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 7: that shit, I was like, Okay, yeah, this is kind

959
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 7: of where he hit his stride. And then you know

960
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 7: the divine feminine and and swimming and ship and they're

961
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 7: just watching the movies.

962
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: With sound off sound off that shi it was that

963
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: ship was I fucked with that?

964
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 7: So you know yeah, And it's just it's just like

965
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 7: he damned there reinvented himself like every album album right right,

966
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,919
Speaker 7: every album. Yeah, it's like he reinvented his sound while

967
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 7: still it was still distinctly mac Miller though, like he

968
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 7: didn't reinvent his personality as outlooks or anything, just reinvented

969
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 7: the sound on this ship and it was just it

970
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 7: was it was remarkable, Like I was, I was totally

971
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,760
Speaker 7: wrong about this kid, and I had no idea until

972
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:35,280
Speaker 7: he passed.

973
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember like when astral World dropped, like they

974
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: dropped the Sun. I think he dropped the same day

975
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: Mac Miller.

976
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 4: Did, and I listened to as Hell was the first

977
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 4: pirst couple of days and then I was like, uh,

978
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 4: my homegirl was like, yo, check out maximum Ship.

979
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: I was.

980
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 4: I didn't evenally know it dropped because astral Rold just

981
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 4: ate up everything else that dropped that that.

982
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: Day, you know what I mean.

983
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 4: So I mean, I I mean Mac never I never

984
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 4: liked what you know, listen immediately when it came out,

985
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 4: but I would, like, you know, I would always get

986
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 4: to ship because I fucked with him, you know what

987
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 4: I mean.

988
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 1: I thought that shit was I always thought it was tight.

989
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 4: Also, I mean once he started got on faces, he

990
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 4: started sucking with like you know, Vince and fucking Earl

991
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 4: and all them, you know, like I think he I

992
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 4: think even he had the same manager as like Tiger

993
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 4: the Crater and all the Future, so they were all

994
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 4: you know, you know, pretty closely tied, you know, so

995
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 4: like I got to it.

996
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 1: I remember like the first song like come Back to Earth.

997
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 4: I remember like I needed a sad day that day, right,

998
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:30,439
Speaker 4: like it was just like it never rains and out here,

999
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 4: so it kind of fucks me up a little bit.

1000
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sometimes I need to get shit out

1001
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 4: of me, and like what helps me do that is

1002
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 4: like rain or like inclement weather, you know what I mean,

1003
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,479
Speaker 4: like snow. Like I need a day to just listen

1004
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 4: to some fucking you know, sad ass or like somber

1005
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 4: ass music, you know, be cooped up in the crib,

1006
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,439
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, get whatever emotions that are

1007
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 4: in me that maybe I'm feeling subconsciously or whatever, but.

1008
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: Get that out. And then because I don't sometimes I

1009
00:45:58,239 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: just feel that way, I just can't.

1010
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 4: I don't know why. I just feel like, you know,

1011
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 4: kind of down. And so I needed a sad day.

1012
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 4: I could feel I was it. I felt it in

1013
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 4: me and that I played come Back to Earth and

1014
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 4: that made me feel like it made me get all

1015
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 4: them like I was.

1016
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 2: I was.

1017
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 4: I played that in Don't Repeat Crying Niggel like for real,

1018
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 4: and uh because it connected to it so much, you

1019
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 4: know what I mean?

1020
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: And Uh, the next day I was cool and it

1021
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: was like to me like this, especially.

1022
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 4: In this album, I felt like he always like opened

1023
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 4: up to us, uh, like with what was what he

1024
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 4: was going was going on in his brain. But I

1025
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 4: felt like in swimming, like I felt like he like,

1026
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 4: you know, buried his soul, you feel me. I felt like,

1027
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 4: you know, it was more it was like an expression

1028
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 4: not just of his brain, but of his inner being,

1029
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

1030
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: And like that shit was so heavy and it's it's

1031
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,720
Speaker 1: so dope, it's so solid, and it was really weird.

1032
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 4: Like, uh, when they showed him playing on on on

1033
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 4: the i G stories like his his last Forest i

1034
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 4: G Stories were hit the outro, I think it was

1035
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 4: the last song, and it was like, I don't know,

1036
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 4: but that's so fucked up. And then they said he

1037
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 4: was with friends that night, and it's like you just

1038
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 4: just you know, just and you never know what the

1039
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 4: fuck is going on with somebody.

1040
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: You really don't. You really don't know what I talk,

1041
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 1: you know, talking to my counselor, and.

1042
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 4: I have I have family members that have, you know,

1043
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 4: have had issues with suicide. I'm thankfully I've never dealt

1044
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 4: with that personally, but you know, not not in a

1045
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 4: serious way at all. But you know, I've asked questions

1046
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 4: to my counselor about you know, my family members that

1047
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 4: were dealing with shit, you know what I mean, just

1048
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 4: so I could be better, a better uh person, I

1049
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 4: could talk and assists better and understand like the symptoms,

1050
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 4: I can, you know, help, And so she was saying,

1051
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 4: how people that do it, they don't want to die,

1052
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 4: they they they just don't know anywhere else to get

1053
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 4: away from the pain. And that's so fucking sad to

1054
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 4: me that, you know, the only way you think you

1055
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 4: can get out of your head or get away from, uh,

1056
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 4: you know, from whatever pain you're feeling, is to die.

1057
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 4: But it's not like you're like, it's not something that

1058
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 4: you desire to do. It's just like it's you that's

1059
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 4: the You seem like that's the only way out. And

1060
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 4: that's why white people like apologize, I'm sorry, you know

1061
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 4: what I mean, but like that's that's the only way

1062
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 4: out of the pain that they're feeling. And it's just

1063
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 4: so fucked up. I mean, that's how they feel. But

1064
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 4: I can't even pretend to understand that completely. But I

1065
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 4: think it's just it's it's really it's really sad that

1066
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 4: somebody do was help that helped so many people deal

1067
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 4: with those emotions. You know, couldn't couldn't help them, it

1068
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:33,280
Speaker 4: seemed like they couldn' help himself.

1069
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think that's exactly right. Like I.

1070
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 9: Was sort of the same as Tyler, Like I listened

1071
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 9: to like early stuff and I was sort of like, Okay,

1072
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 9: this is is not really my kind of rap or whatever,

1073
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 9: and then I didn't never really like check back in.

1074
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 9: So I was hearing a lot of stuff about like

1075
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 9: the kind of person he was for the first time

1076
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 9: after he.

1077
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 2: Died, and and I I ended up I.

1078
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 9: Got really sad that like because and listen the more

1079
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 9: recent stuff, like I staid watching movies on the sounds

1080
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 9: like this is a.

1081
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 2: Dude where like I could have checked back.

1082
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 9: Into this stuff, loved it, and then listened to him

1083
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 9: for fifteen more years him like he said, make me

1084
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:15,240
Speaker 9: albums that people connected with on like a really deep level.

1085
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 9: And just in seeing all this stuff about what A like,

1086
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 9: like you said, like what A like, basically everyone was like,

1087
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 9: this is the nicest guy ever.

1088
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: Like literally literally ever. Yeah, yeah, but literally.

1089
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 2: The nicest guy.

1090
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: Man.

1091
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 9: That's the stuff that really fucked with me because I'm

1092
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 9: the same way John, Like, if I'm going through something,

1093
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 9: I never ever take it out on other people, Like

1094
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 9: It's that's always when I'm like most likely to, like,

1095
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 9: if I'm depressed, I'm for sure gonna stop and help

1096
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 9: an old lady pick or grocery bag right right, right.

1097
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 1: Right, you know what I mean.

1098
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 2: It's just it's just where I go to in my

1099
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 2: head for some reason.

1100
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 9: So it was definitely like thinking, did ever was he

1101
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 9: this nice to everyone because he was like that hurt

1102
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 9: all the time, or you know, like what it was.

1103
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 9: I don't know, it was really painful, Like you said,

1104
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 9: it's just losing the potential of all of the other

1105
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 9: stuff he might have done. And it's like that's what

1106
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 9: is so heartbreaking to me.

1107
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,439
Speaker 4: I think you know what I think it might be.

1108
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 4: You know, when you do something good for somebody, it

1109
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 4: feel makes you feel good, you know what I mean.

1110
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 4: And so when I'm kind of down, that like makes

1111
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 4: me feel good in a way to help somebody else,

1112
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 4: ll be nice to somebody else, and maybe that maybe

1113
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 4: that maybe it was part of that, but I mean

1114
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 4: I can't I can't assume that.

1115
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: But uh, I mean, you you hear someone like.

1116
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 4: The the how deep he went, and like when he's

1117
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 4: explaining his emotions and stuff. I was reading articles about

1118
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 4: him like the last article he did, like that dropped,

1119
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 4: I think and think it dropped the day he passed,

1120
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

1121
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 5: But with with with Vulture by.

1122
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think that's I mean, I think it

1123
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: might have been that article. I read a number of them.

1124
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 4: But it was like he was talking about how like

1125
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 4: he seemed he seemed to be so like to understand

1126
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 4: emotions so well. Like he talked about how he wanted

1127
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 4: to feel all the emotions and embrace all the emotions

1128
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 4: and experience them, you know, deeply, like you know, pain

1129
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 4: is something you just feel, you know what I mean,

1130
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 4: and it's part of life and it's not you know.

1131
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 4: He didn't seem to be engulfed by it. It seemed

1132
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 4: like he was super aware that it was just a time. Like,

1133
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 4: you know, I never really get too up or down

1134
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 4: because I understand that, like, you know, life goes up

1135
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 4: and down, so I don't get I don't get too

1136
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 4: excited about something or too down about.

1137
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: Shit, you know what I mean, because I know eventually, I.

1138
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 4: Mean, I don't know if that's good or bad, honestly,

1139
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like when I like, people

1140
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 4: will be like when something really good happens I'm not.

1141
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 1: I never get super super excited.

1142
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 4: I'm kind of because I know, like, you know, eventually,

1143
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 4: this this exciting thing will not be.

1144
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 9: You've been around the wheel enough times to know that

1145
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 9: when you're down, you're coming back up, and when.

1146
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 7: You're up, and and and and it seems like like

1147
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 7: that's the theme of swimming, Like the whole theme is

1148
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 7: kind of him saying like, like, yo, I pursued happiness.

1149
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 7: I think I've experienced happiness and that ship is fleeting,

1150
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 7: like it's something that you can't hold on to. So

1151
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 7: so maybe contentment is to go here. And it's like

1152
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 7: swimming is is basically you know, him staying afloat.

1153
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 5: You know what I mean. Like that's of the whole

1154
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 5: theme there.

1155
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 7: So I think he kind of had an understanding of

1156
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 7: of that. You know, maybe happiness is something he might

1157
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 7: not ever experience, or maybe he did experience it and

1158
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 7: it wasn't what he imagined it to be, and like

1159
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 7: contentment might be the goal here, Like that's what it

1160
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:15,720
Speaker 7: seemed like when I got what I got from that album.

1161
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: That's just very smart insight.

1162
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 4: Bro I didn't like and that and that goes right

1163
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 4: along with swimming, like you know, continue floating.

1164
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, like swimming, swimming, you're just keeping the floating surviving.

1165
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 1: Right right right. And I honestly we've talked about this.

1166
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 1: Being happy is that's that's like being like up up

1167
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: like that that's that's draining.

1168
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

1169
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 4: Like honestly, I'll get really like I'll get really happy

1170
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 4: at times, like like I'll peak like some days where

1171
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 4: I'm just like super happy and I don't necessarily like it.

1172
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's weird, but like like you know,

1173
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 4: when I'm like really happy and like I really bugly

1174
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 4: have a whole bunch energy, like those days that ship

1175
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 4: is draining. I actually like will go off to myself

1176
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 4: in those days because I want to calm down, like

1177
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:06,320
Speaker 4: when I'm like super bubbly or like feeling like superlaie,

1178
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:11,439
Speaker 4: like I'll go off alone, you know, because I'm trying

1179
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 4: to calm that shit because I don't necessarily like that feeling.

1180
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 4: You know, I much rather would I much rather prefer

1181
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 4: like being content just calm and chill, you know what

1182
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 4: I mean. It could be you know, like I don't know,

1183
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 4: symptom of ADHD or some ship where or whatever, like

1184
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 4: where like my nerves or hormones are going crazy. But

1185
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 4: I don't know, like, yeah, I don't necessarily like that shit.

1186
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 4: So yeah, that I think that it does make sense

1187
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,439
Speaker 4: that he, you know, continue would be something that somebody

1188
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 4: would want rather than just like the highs and the lows.

1189
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 4: Like yes, like you said that shit is fleeting, you

1190
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 4: know what I mean. So yeah, but it's just.

1191
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 7: I mean, we're not like our psyche is not built

1192
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 7: to be happy all the time, like like like there's

1193
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 7: a medical condition for that.

1194
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 5: It's it's called you know, being manned.

1195
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 7: Sure, if you're on the on that end of the

1196
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 7: spectrum all the time, that that's not healthy.

1197
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think you made this comparison, Michael.

1198
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 4: You were saying that it's like an engine running high, right,

1199
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like that's how I feel.

1200
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,320
Speaker 4: What I'm like super happy, and I'm like, yeah, I

1201
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 4: don't like this. I'm gonna go sit somewhere and calm

1202
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 4: my ass down and I'll get around humans when I

1203
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 4: feel regular again, you know what I mean.

1204
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just the way it's always been for me.

1205
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 2: If I ever have a day where I'm like, like,

1206
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 2: for example, you Tyler brought up the poly book the

1207
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 2: day after.

1208
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 9: We signed the poll Book contract, you know, we put

1209
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 9: the picture up. Everyone was like congratulating us. It was great.

1210
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 9: I was super excited about it. The next day, I

1211
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 9: was like, I had trouble getting out of bed. It's

1212
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,320
Speaker 9: basically like always that way for me. If I have

1213
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 9: a day that's like that high, it's almost guaranteed that

1214
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 9: it's the engine's gonna kind of like burn itself out

1215
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 9: the next day.

1216
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm I'm the same way, because sometimes looking forward

1217
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 7: to achieving a goal is something that motivates you more

1218
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 7: than actually achieving it, you know, I mean sure, yeah.

1219
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 5: Like once you achieve that goal, it's a bit of

1220
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 5: a letdown, you know.

1221
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, so you know, to an extent, I mean I

1222
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 9: can only imagine, you know, I've achieved goals at the

1223
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 9: level that I've been trying to achieve goals, but that's

1224
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,760
Speaker 9: like infinitely lower or smaller than where.

1225
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 2: Mac Miller's been. And I kind of wonder if.

1226
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: Hitting the levels something at that age do yeah.

1227
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 9: Especially at a young age, Yes, if that kind of

1228
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 9: if that hurts you in its own kind of way, I.

1229
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: Guess I remember. I remember, like we we laugh about wow,

1230
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 1: and it's kind of fucked up.

1231
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 4: I remember bow Wow saying he wished he hadn't seen

1232
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 4: so much so hard, he said, because like he'd been

1233
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 4: all around the world, he had been fucking like the

1234
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 4: baddest chicks, all the shit, all the money, all the

1235
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 4: things that you know we strive for, right, And.

1236
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 1: What do you do now?

1237
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 4: What do you do at like twenty when you've seen

1238
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 4: all the things that everybody is working towards, Like you've

1239
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 4: witnessed and experienced all that, So what do you just

1240
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 4: cruise throughout the rest of your life?

1241
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: That sounds miserable?

1242
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 9: One of one of the craziest stories to me that

1243
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 9: I've written a number of times. Whenever I write a

1244
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 9: feature about a beach kid who's made it to the

1245
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,240
Speaker 9: Olympics at a young age, Like take a.

1246
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 2: Michaila Maroney or someone she won she won an.

1247
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 9: Olympic gold medal in an Olympic mettle and want to

1248
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 9: say she was sixteen?

1249
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 2: What?

1250
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: So how old are you break it up a litle bit?

1251
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 1: What are you saying she wanted.

1252
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 2: An you know, her Olympic medal she was sixteen years old? Huh?

1253
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 9: And so question one whenever I do a feature on

1254
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 9: a kid like that is like, what are you going

1255
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 9: to do now?

1256
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you haven't working.

1257
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 2: Like but the thing that's crazy about it is the

1258
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 2: kids don't know. They don't they can't understand how much

1259
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 2: life is still in front of them.

1260
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,399
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean, Like they're like, yeah,

1261
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: I have been.

1262
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 2: Working my whole life and now I'll have to find

1263
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 2: something else.

1264
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 9: And that next couple of years is always interesting to

1265
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 9: watch because it's like you've got to find a place

1266
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:43,919
Speaker 9: to channel all that. But yeah, I mean resetting what

1267
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:47,240
Speaker 9: you're resetting your idea of the purpose of your life

1268
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 9: is not like a simple.

1269
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 2: Thing, and there's no there's no textbook on how to.

1270
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 4: Do it, you know, Yeah, I mean that there's not

1271
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 4: there's like who and who do you go to? Like,

1272
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 4: because I guess a lot of the people that are

1273
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 4: around you, you know, I mean maybe you know, in

1274
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 4: max situation, you know, he did have other people that

1275
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 4: were going through the same ship or have gone to

1276
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 4: he get access that. But it's like, you know, you're

1277
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 4: from a particular area, you know, you you're an athlete

1278
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,479
Speaker 4: that that you know, that's mckill and shit, you can't

1279
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 4: go to your mom and be like so what you

1280
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 4: know and try like what do I do.

1281
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: Now, your mom doesn't. She doesn't, she doesn't she's never

1282
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: been there. Well, I mean, don't.

1283
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 9: Want to sound you don't want to sound like I'm grateful,

1284
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 9: you know what I mean, like she was sacrificing all

1285
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 9: this ship to get me here, you know. Like it's yeah,

1286
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 9: it's it's weird, but it's not like there's an established now.

1287
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 2: I mean, we see this all the time from guys

1288
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 2: that come out of the NFL.

1289
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 9: There really is not an established like way of transitioning

1290
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 9: back into the real world because the lives that those

1291
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 9: people live are not really comparable to quote unquote regular lives.

1292
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: No.

1293
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 4: Like, to me, what seems like a like the gradual growth,

1294
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 4: it seems like a satisfying experience on this earth is like,

1295
00:57:58,320 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 4: you know, ups and downs.

1296
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: I think that we've talked about this.

1297
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 4: I think the concept of fucking perfection seems like boring

1298
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 4: as fuck. There's nothing about that this you know, and

1299
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 4: you know, enticing or endearing to me at all. Right,

1300
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 4: But like I think, like the gradual you know growth,

1301
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 4: there's ups and downs obviously, and then you know, when

1302
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 4: you're fifty, you get to apply a space where you're comfortable,

1303
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 4: right and then at fifty you kind of cruise for

1304
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 4: like the next you know, twenty twenty five years, you know,

1305
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 4: figure shit out, or sixty you know, like working a

1306
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 4: little bit, and then you know, when you're retired you

1307
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 4: can travel and all that shit, right, But like you know,

1308
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 4: there's a gradual growth to like seeing and experiencing things.

1309
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 1: You know, there's like a timetable when you've.

1310
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 4: Experienced everything by like twenty twenty five, that that I'm

1311
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 4: working towards for the next sixty seventy years, you know

1312
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 4: what I mean? Like that, like that that that's not

1313
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 4: just resetting. That's like, bro, you need a new you

1314
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 4: need a new planet. You need a new experience together,

1315
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 4: you know what I mean?

1316
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, Like like what what

1317
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: what do you like? What are you gonna get into carpentry?

1318
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: You know, you know, gonna start fucking knitting? You know

1319
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 1: what I mean?

1320
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 4: Like you know, serious, like what like when you've seen

1321
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 4: like most of what Earth has to offer at a

1322
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 4: young age, you know that that. I mean, what you're

1323
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 4: gonna buy more ship? You're not gonna be satisfied with

1324
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 4: that ship.

1325
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 9: It's not gonna you know, a lot of it's a

1326
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 9: lot why a lot of former pro athletes gets into

1327
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 9: golf cause it's like they're not good at it when

1328
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 9: they start it, but they can see how they get

1329
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 9: good at it. You can throw a shitload of time

1330
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 9: into it around other kind of rich, isolated people, and

1331
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 9: it scratches the competitiveness itch.

1332
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 2: But that that's real life.

1333
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 9: Like golf is like the fucking methodone or whatever for

1334
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 9: coming off of you know, like a professional athlete.

1335
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 4: Life, and it's forever difficult for everybody that plays it,

1336
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, you can always be better.

1337
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 7: I've always said there's no such thing as a good

1338
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 7: casual golfer because if you're a good golfer, your you're

1339
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 7: probably pro aiming it at the very least, right.

1340
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, like like amateur people are just not good.

1341
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 4: It's just that heart of a fucking sport, you know

1342
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 4: what I mean. So like, yeah, but I don't know,

1343
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 4: I think I think that's we're talking about some different

1344
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 4: shiit bro I expected to go into that, but yeah,

1345
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 4: I wonder you know if that if that type of

1346
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 4: stuff plays a part.

1347
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 1: I know I would I imagine I struggled.

1348
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 4: With it, you know, like you know, at thirty five

1349
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 4: you know, I have a lot in front of me,

1350
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 4: and I like that. You know, I have a lot

1351
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 4: I need accomplishment, and I like that. I have a

1352
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 4: lot of things to push me. You know, if I

1353
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 4: if I had accomplished you know, majority of that or

1354
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 4: all of that, you know, what.

1355
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: Would push me? Why am I waking up up in

1356
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,479
Speaker 1: the morning, you know what I mean? Like what's getting

1357
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 1: me out the bed? You know, I don't know.

1358
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 4: I just can't imagine be in like the next forty

1359
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 4: whatever years or however years hopefully you know, fucking reading

1360
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 4: books and you know, you know, like you win a lottery,

1361
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 4: like that's a great thing, right, you don't have to

1362
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:51,439
Speaker 4: do ship.

1363
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 2: But the stats they're crazy on people who win the lottery.

1364
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 1: Bro, you said the one dude, how miserable they become.

1365
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 9: They're all miserable, like something like more than half of

1366
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 9: them end up going bankrupt and being poorer than they

1367
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 9: were before they won the lottery.

1368
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 4: Like yeah, like from exactly exactly, so like I would like,

1369
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 4: you know that that's what's that's what's weird. Like we

1370
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 4: want these things to work to get to these things,

1371
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 4: but like when they're given to us, especially suddenly or

1372
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 4: at a younger age, you know, we struggle with that

1373
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 4: ship man, you know, and we're told to work, to

1374
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 4: exchange to gain a piece of paper that really means nothing.

1375
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 4: We're told that's that that that drives us right when

1376
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 4: we get you know a lot of it, you know,

1377
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,919
Speaker 4: and and like what what is what is our purpose now?

1378
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 4: Like what what do we get up for now?

1379
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1380
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 4: Like and then like you know, I remember, like before

1381
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 4: I moved out here, like you know, me and Tall

1382
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 4: had another opportunity to kind of fell through, and so

1383
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 4: I was in school and I got out of school

1384
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 4: because to produe the opportunity, right, and I was at

1385
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 4: the crib a whole lot, you know what I mean.

1386
01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 4: And I was like creating ship and stuff like that.

1387
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 4: But I mean, I'm not I love like solitude, but

1388
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 4: I was even kind of like, you know this, I

1389
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 4: don't necessarily like this, Like I almost wanted to go

1390
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:13,439
Speaker 4: back to work, like because I didn't like the fact

1391
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 4: that I.

1392
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 1: Was alone so much. And when you're as a person

1393
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 1: that just intrepret likes being alone.

1394
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 4: And and and and as a as an artist or

1395
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 4: as you know, a creative you know, like you know,

1396
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 4: when you're not on like the you know, a tourist

1397
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 4: cycle or you know whatever, Like you spent a lot

1398
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 4: of time just sitting at the crib like.

1399
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 1: I guess creating, you know, like or whatever.

1400
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 4: But you know, I would never be a type of

1401
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 4: person that's going to go out and party just to

1402
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 4: be around people.

1403
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 1: I don't find that enjoyable, So that would be kind

1404
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 1: of difficult.

1405
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 4: You know, like not having any real not not having

1406
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 4: that much interaction with humans.

1407
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 1: That's that's healthy.

1408
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 4: Like I remember my friend saying, John, you need to

1409
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 4: get out the house just to talk to people. But

1410
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 4: it's and I had had to fight my natural desires

1411
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 4: to not get the house, which I've always done because

1412
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 4: I had work to which I got all of the

1413
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 4: necessary you know, around people and this like I could

1414
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 4: could take you know what I mean, and and when

1415
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 4: I go home, I could.

1416
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 1: Just stay at home as much as possible.

1417
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 4: But when I was like at home, I had a

1418
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 4: free a bunch of free time, I had to force

1419
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 4: myself to get out just because it's healthy to be

1420
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 4: around humans, you know what I mean, And and that

1421
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 4: and that and that could be a weird thing too,

1422
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:28,919
Speaker 4: you know when you're you know, when you you've done

1423
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 4: a lot of the ship you have to do, or

1424
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 4: your job doesn't require you to be around humans much.

1425
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, uh, A lot of questions. Super

1426
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 4: fucking sad situation because it just seemed like a very

1427
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 4: very very good human you know, just couldn't find happiness

1428
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 4: and or just wasn't couldn't be find you know, satisfaction

1429
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 4: on this planet. And it's really sad because we need

1430
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:56,959
Speaker 4: humans like that, you know what I mean.

1431
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 1: But I hope wherever he is, there's piece. I just

1432
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 1: hope that.

1433
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 4: That's what I was thinking, Like, damn, man, like a

1434
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,919
Speaker 4: whole way, wherever it is, wherever you know, mac way,

1435
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 4: there's peace there.

1436
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 1: You know, he deserves that, you know what I mean.

1437
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 22: My cheek brushes against his smooth unstubble for a moment,

1438
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 22: and then it's gone.

1439
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 1: He walks on the platforms in a dream.

1440
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 9: Every five room he wants to shout and scream, stop.

1441
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 1: To run across to him and take him in.

1442
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 13: My arms, to tell him I love you.

1443
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 3: You're silly, silly.

1444
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 5: Man, I love you.

1445
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 3: But instead of my still still.

1446
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 22: Heart, there's little curls on the back of his head,

1447
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 22: bouncing as he steps.

1448
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 1: Out of my life whatever.

1449
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 5: I hope.

1450
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 12: That the fire we both may still burd a little

1451
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 12: in you. I wrote to you every day? Did my

1452
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 12: letters find the way?

1453
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 15: A memory? Is on my screen? Two loves in this

1454
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 15: mystic dream. Baby, come back to me, Come back to me.

1455
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 15: Too much time on my phone?

1456
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 8: Baby?

1457
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:49,479
Speaker 12: Do you still sleep long?

1458
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 15: Come back to me?

1459
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 5: Come back to me?

1460
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 23: Fresh out the Black and Mind movie movie on a screen?

1461
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 4: What you be like?

1462
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 1: What you meant to me? Or was it mystery.

1463
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 8: For me?

1464
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 23: Fresh shower of Black and Worse.

1465
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 18: Movie movie screen? Don't you bee live? What you meant

1466
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 18: to me? Or was it mystery?

1467
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 15: I thought that you moved somewhere far away. It's your

1468
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 15: number the same as before. I can't ignore the time

1469
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 15: may have changed your ways. That's my record still on

1470
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 15: your such a sentimental way to prove. I hope it

1471
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 15: still touches you. Baby, Come back to me, Come back

1472
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 15: to me.

1473
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:20,959
Speaker 12: It kills me to see you leave.

1474
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 15: So I came home and made this beer. Baby, come

1475
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 15: back to me, Come back to me.

1476
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 8: For me?

1477
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 23: Fresh show the Black and Word movie.

1478
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 1: Movie screen?

1479
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 8: Would you be like?

1480
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 1: Would you mentally? I was it vistory.

1481
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 2: For me?

1482
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 18: First show the Black and Borden.

1483
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 1: That's shore Where the fuck is shore head man?

1484
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 2: All right, hold up, let me let me uh, let

1485
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 2: me bring her on here. Get ready for the skype noise.

1486
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 1: It's introduction, bro. We never met I never heard her voice.

1487
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 2: She's not everybody, damn, that's true. I didn't even think

1488
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 2: about that. Yeah, you guys have just been in the

1489
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 2: We've all just texted. Huh.

1490
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've been in the group.

1491
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 8: Chet.

1492
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 9: It's so weird, man, because I feel like you. I

1493
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 9: feel like we've all been friends for like fifteen years,

1494
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 9: like anyone. My wife and I've been together since we

1495
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 9: were eighteen, so everyone, like basically everyone who knows me

1496
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 9: knows her.

1497
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1498
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 4: I mean when I saw you, I gave you a

1499
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:55,559
Speaker 4: real hug, like yeah, right, because we knew each other

1500
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 4: even though we didn't know each other.

1501
01:08:57,640 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, y'all sent me those pictures and I was, man,

1502
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:00,760
Speaker 7: It's like I was like, and that was a real

1503
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 7: friend to smile.

1504
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1505
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 5: Yeahucker's having fun without being ship.

1506
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 4: We're fucking soul mats man. We knew each other before

1507
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 4: he knew each other, you know what I mean. We

1508
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 4: were friends in the past lifetimes, you know what I'm saying.

1509
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 1: It was so chill bro It was so chill. But

1510
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:16,640
Speaker 1: uh but yeah, yeah, yeah, so.

1511
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 4: You are you ready to I actually gave my book away.

1512
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 4: I was in New York last week and this one

1513
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 4: of the dudes I was dude, I was talking to

1514
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 4: super cool guy. He was taking up telling me about

1515
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 4: like he was. He was worried that the grind of life,

1516
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 4: like he's been grinding super dummy and like New York

1517
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:41,599
Speaker 4: like he's super plug. He works dumb hard, right, knows

1518
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 4: everybody and ship right, so he's worried that he's gonna

1519
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 4: like snap out of it at forty and be like,

1520
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 4: holy shit, you know, I'm want marriage with kids now

1521
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 4: and it struggle with that ship. So I was like,

1522
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 4: I scave him the book because that helped me reading

1523
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 4: that book, you know, because I'm I'm in nowhere near

1524
01:09:57,880 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 4: his level, but I.

1525
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 1: Do feel I mean, we talked about this last time.

1526
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 1: I felt like.

1527
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 9: That, Yeah, okay, I've got Shah on the line and Tyler.

1528
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 3: Hello, Hello, you have a voice. What's some nerds?

1529
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 1: What's up? You have a teacher's voice. You seem.

1530
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 5: That's a school teacher.

1531
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:21,600
Speaker 4: Yes, you're so calm, You're so calm, all right, So

1532
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:24,560
Speaker 4: you're gonna break down this ship for us because we

1533
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 4: just give an opinion and you have much more insight

1534
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 4: on the situation.

1535
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:28,640
Speaker 1: On the book to lead it.

1536
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 4: Oh, we just are we just going to talk about

1537
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 4: it and then you could just tell us y'all are wrong.

1538
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 2: I don't. We didn't even really figure it out.

1539
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 1: We did.

1540
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 2: We did what she was gonna do.

1541
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 3: I mean, I have a lesson plan.

1542
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 1: Okay, hey you do.

1543
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 3: No, I have no lessons.

1544
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, cool, cool, cool cool, all right, so let's

1545
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 4: just talk about it.

1546
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 1: So what that, Mike, I'm gonna let you leave it,

1547
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:53,759
Speaker 1: put it on. I gave my book away, so yeah, let's.

1548
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 2: Uh so we read. We read the last two chapters

1549
01:10:57,240 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 2: this time, right.

1550
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:00,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, last two or three? Yeah, it was what are the.

1551
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 2: Names of the chapters it was? I know it ended

1552
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 2: with Govinda and was.

1553
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:10,799
Speaker 3: Right before.

1554
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:14,720
Speaker 1: That makes me think your thought that there was more

1555
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 1: going on.

1556
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:19,719
Speaker 2: With Yeah, okay, sure.

1557
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:23,559
Speaker 9: Question one where Siddhartha and Govinda having sex.

1558
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:30,160
Speaker 1: Welcome to the podcast.

1559
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:37,639
Speaker 3: It's my personal opinion that no, I think it's pretty

1560
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 3: clear that that Siddartha has no sort of romantic relationship

1561
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 3: before Kamala.

1562
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:55,600
Speaker 2: Basically, she sly called me stupid. I think it's pretty clear.

1563
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 3: There are no stupid questions.

1564
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 1: Is so married? Go ahead?

1565
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:09,800
Speaker 3: I think personally, I think that the point is kind

1566
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 3: of that that with that whole kiss on the forehead situation,

1567
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 3: which my students always ask the same question children, Well,

1568
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:19,719
Speaker 3: I mean.

1569
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 2: You're John and Tyler to.

1570
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 3: No, no, just just that the point is at that point.

1571
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 3: I think Sa Dartha is kind of representing love for

1572
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:38,680
Speaker 3: all things and that includes you know, his his kind

1573
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 3: of his first his first relationship, which was with Govinda,

1574
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 3: even though I don't think of a sexual relationship.

1575
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:49,679
Speaker 1: So m so so a kiss on the forehead. I've

1576
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 1: never seen a man kiss another man on the forehead,

1577
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:52,559
Speaker 1: you know what.

1578
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 7: I thought, this might be like some some motherfucking Chalker's

1579
01:12:56,080 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 7: third eye ship where that just your body, that part

1580
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:02,680
Speaker 7: of their body kind of you know, introduce you to

1581
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 7: other ships you ain't never seen before.

1582
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:07,639
Speaker 3: That's kind of like a spiritual human centipede situation.

1583
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 1: So that that sounds interesting. I don't necessarily know. I

1584
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 1: did laugh. That's all I have as I did that.

1585
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 3: So so what, well, go ahead, go ahead, Well think

1586
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 3: about I mean, if you think about the story of

1587
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 3: of like Jesus Christ. There's uh, there's Judas in the

1588
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 3: in the garden kissing, uh, kissing Jesus right before he's arrested.

1589
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 3: And I mean that that kind of paying homage to

1590
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:43,559
Speaker 3: your teacher by kissing him isn't necessarily like super out

1591
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:48,720
Speaker 3: of left field. It's just not something that we necessarily

1592
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 3: do these days for obvious reasons.

1593
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 1: Right right, right, right? So what was so? What was

1594
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 1: that was that about the river?

1595
01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1596
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 3: Olm was was kind of begins with Siddartha still in

1597
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:09,800
Speaker 3: pain over losing his son and and then goes to

1598
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 3: Vosadeva and tells him about his pain for the first time.

1599
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:15,639
Speaker 3: And there's that that momentary takes him to the river

1600
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 3: and tells him to listen and then like listen harder. Basically, yeah,

1601
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 3: and and that's when when Siddartha achieves enlightenment.

1602
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:32,040
Speaker 4: Is enlightenment just being connected, I understand, it's conections of

1603
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 4: all things and like accepting the un like the universe

1604
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:36,919
Speaker 4: and what things.

1605
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 1: Around you as they are.

1606
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:42,720
Speaker 4: Is that what enlightenment is like no expectations, you know,

1607
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 4: and just you know, allowing things to be what they

1608
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 4: are and understanding the connections between them.

1609
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 7: Is that what it's bro bro going going back to

1610
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 7: our previous discussion on mac millership, like contentment being the goal,

1611
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 7: like that might be it, dude, like that's fucking crazy.

1612
01:14:59,000 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1613
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:03,519
Speaker 3: I think for Sidartha, that's what enlightenment is, and that's

1614
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 3: I think what he's trying to express to Govinda at

1615
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 3: the end was Govinda's like, well, but you have to

1616
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 3: tell me some sort of doctrine, some sort of thing

1617
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:14,639
Speaker 3: that I can follow, and so Dartha's like, you know, there,

1618
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 3: there isn't anything. It's just about accepting that we that

1619
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 3: we have this place and it's not really a place.

1620
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:23,719
Speaker 3: And he kind of blows Govinda's mind.

1621
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:26,599
Speaker 5: But don't get too low.

1622
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:30,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. But but yeah, for Govinda, or

1623
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 3: for for Sidartha, I think that is what enlightenment is.

1624
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:34,600
Speaker 3: That is kind of what he's been searching for this

1625
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 3: whole time. I think that's not what it is for everybody,

1626
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 3: and I don't think that's what it is for most Buddhists.

1627
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:44,559
Speaker 3: But that's how Sidartha achieves his enlightenment.

1628
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 1: What's it like? But for most Buddhists, I wonder what

1629
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 1: that is.

1630
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 9: So Shar, you know, Shar, I don't know if I

1631
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:52,639
Speaker 9: told you this. So she teaches English. I should introduce

1632
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 9: her for the podcast people too. I guess she teaches English.

1633
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 1: And Georgan High School on Long Beach.

1634
01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:59,839
Speaker 2: But she also she was a World religion major a UCLA.

1635
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 9: She studied like Buddhism and Hinduism sort of specifically.

1636
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 2: It was like her whole ship.

1637
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 9: So she's always like, whenever we see people talking about karma,

1638
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 9: she's one of the people who's like, that fucking karma

1639
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:12,799
Speaker 9: is okay.

1640
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:16,559
Speaker 4: So can you explain what what is? What is Buddhist alignment?

1641
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 4: And also is Hindu Enlightenment different for Buddist lightenment.

1642
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:29,639
Speaker 3: Enlightenment that's mhmm, they're they're different kind of I guess

1643
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 3: that is what i'd say. So first of all, let

1644
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:36,200
Speaker 3: me let me give a disclaimer that that Japanese religions

1645
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 3: and Buddhism was my major in college. It's been a

1646
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:41,840
Speaker 3: couple of years, so please don't ask me anything too specific.

1647
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 3: I think I can handle what you what you ask

1648
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 3: so so for. For Buddhism in particular, there's a lot

1649
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:55,800
Speaker 3: of different, kind of completely different strains. It would kind

1650
01:16:55,840 --> 01:17:00,879
Speaker 3: of be like saying, what do Christians believe about God?

1651
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:03,479
Speaker 3: And then if you were talking to an evangelical, it

1652
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 3: would be very different then if you're talking to a

1653
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:10,160
Speaker 3: Catholic or talking to a Mormon. So to a certain extent,

1654
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 3: there's a lot of Buddhisms, is what we talk about.

1655
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:16,599
Speaker 3: There's lots of different kinds, but basically the idea is

1656
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 3: that that life is suffering, that what we have here

1657
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:25,559
Speaker 3: in life is suffering, and that endless cycle of birth

1658
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:29,760
Speaker 3: and rebirth and birth and rebirth is not fun. It's

1659
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 3: not good. Nobody likes it, and it just causes us

1660
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 3: to become attached to things and lose things constantly, and

1661
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 3: that's why we're always grieving, we're always mourning, we're always

1662
01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 3: losing something. And so the ultimate goal of Buddhism is

1663
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:51,639
Speaker 3: to get out of that cycle, to achieve nirvana by

1664
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 3: exiting out of that cycle. And the way to do

1665
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 3: that kind of is to achieve enlightenment, which is to

1666
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:05,719
Speaker 3: gain kind of a fuller complete understanding of the world.

1667
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 4: But don't but don't they believe in like reincarnation, So it's.

1668
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 1: Just gonna consistently.

1669
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 4: They're just consistently trying to achieve enlightenment in every life.

1670
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 4: And I know, like if you, if you, if you

1671
01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 4: aren't a good human or I'm afraid I think she's

1672
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:26,440
Speaker 4: she's said, but I want to for similar but you know, uh,

1673
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 4: she said that, like you could you come back as

1674
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:28,800
Speaker 4: like a roach or.

1675
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 8: Something like that.

1676
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And that's that's that is like, that's the

1677
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 3: cause and effect that drives the whole universe. The idea

1678
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 3: for both Buddhists and Hinduists is that time is eternal

1679
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 3: in both directions. So we if we are here right now,

1680
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 3: it's because at some point an eternity ago, we were

1681
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:56,519
Speaker 3: still here and then every that we've had an infinite

1682
01:18:56,560 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 3: number of lifetimes since then, with the goal even of

1683
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:03,160
Speaker 3: getting a little bit better every life and a little

1684
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 3: bit closer to enlightenment and so that we can get

1685
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 3: out of here. And so if you if you don't

1686
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:13,360
Speaker 3: do a good job in this life, then you might

1687
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 3: come back as a roach, not necessarily as punishment, but

1688
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:18,559
Speaker 3: because that means that you're further away from your goal,

1689
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:22,680
Speaker 3: because only certain types of beings kind of chieve enlightenment.

1690
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:26,480
Speaker 2: Okay, so what is the religious state of Siddartha.

1691
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:30,879
Speaker 9: He's a he grew up like Hindu and is becoming Buddhists,

1692
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 9: or he's Buddhist the whole way through.

1693
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:38,680
Speaker 3: Well, his life and even his name is kind of

1694
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:43,599
Speaker 3: related to the life of the historical Buddha who was

1695
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:47,479
Speaker 3: born kind of born a Hindu and then obviously became

1696
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:51,720
Speaker 3: a Buddhist because he was the Buddha.

1697
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 9: But it's there's sort of a parallel to like Jesus

1698
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 9: being a Jew and then like sort of formed a

1699
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:01,840
Speaker 9: new religion in the way that he differed from that religion.

1700
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 3: Right exactly, but but it's still founded on the same

1701
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:08,639
Speaker 3: kind of ultimate understanding of how the universe works, which

1702
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 3: is very different from like a Western understanding. So so

1703
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 3: Dartha is definitely not Buddhist because Gautama that he met

1704
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 3: and the Govinda went to go to go follow Gautama

1705
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:24,639
Speaker 3: is the Buddha. So by him deciding not to follow

1706
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 3: the Buddha and to go his own, he's liberally not a.

1707
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 1: Buddhist, Okay, So so so what.

1708
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:34,840
Speaker 3: Is he that, Well, he's kind of like his own thing.

1709
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:40,000
Speaker 4: I guess he just found he just found enlightenment through

1710
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 4: his own personal experience.

1711
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:43,800
Speaker 1: Is that what is that with this to.

1712
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:46,679
Speaker 3: Say that I say that that's kind of like, yeah,

1713
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:48,800
Speaker 3: I think that's kind of that's kind of the point.

1714
01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 3: That's that's how he achieves enlightenment is specifically not by

1715
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 3: listening to anyone else, not even the ferryman who gave

1716
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:57,559
Speaker 3: him the most information and that he spent the most

1717
01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:01,639
Speaker 3: time with. Like ultimately it wasn't the fairyman who who

1718
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:04,320
Speaker 3: gave him his enlightenment. He had to get it for himself,

1719
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:06,559
Speaker 3: had to sit at the river and listen to it

1720
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:08,240
Speaker 3: with a certain state of mind.

1721
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 4: So it's basically saying to the book is basically saying,

1722
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:16,200
Speaker 4: you'll live long enough, you'll figure this life shit out, like,

1723
01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:18,760
Speaker 4: but you just have to keep living and experiencing things

1724
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:20,760
Speaker 4: and going through shit and eventually.

1725
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 1: You'll find some peace. It's you know, like is that

1726
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:25,599
Speaker 1: is that what it's trying to say.

1727
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:29,400
Speaker 3: Well, but you have looking for it and trying it right,

1728
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:32,320
Speaker 3: because look at Govinda. Govinda, if he hadn't run into

1729
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:34,400
Speaker 3: Sadartha at the end of his life, would have just

1730
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:39,639
Speaker 3: died always being a seeker. That last those last couple

1731
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:41,839
Speaker 3: of lines that he has with Siddartha where he's begging

1732
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 3: him and saying like we might never were both old men,

1733
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 3: we might never see each other again. Please tell me

1734
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:51,240
Speaker 3: something mm hm. That always gets me because that's I

1735
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 3: think that's how That's how Siddartha's father was, That's how

1736
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:58,360
Speaker 3: those asthetics were. They lived these long lives of religious

1737
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:01,000
Speaker 3: searching and never achieved their goal. And here's go Vinda,

1738
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 3: who's right there and saying, I know you've gotten it.

1739
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 3: Can you please share some with me so I don't

1740
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:07,600
Speaker 3: die like this?

1741
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 1: Damn I didn't take it that way.

1742
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:14,479
Speaker 7: Yeah, like like as that ship might have been a

1743
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:18,719
Speaker 7: shot against like following you know, guidelines and indoction native

1744
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 7: ship like and find your own meaning and that's what

1745
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:25,080
Speaker 7: will truly be Like, yeah.

1746
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:26,719
Speaker 1: Go ahead, is what are you about to say?

1747
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:27,639
Speaker 8: Oh?

1748
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, yeah, I think so, But I.

1749
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 1: Think that I think that makes sense.

1750
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:34,760
Speaker 4: We all are you you when you think you said

1751
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:37,519
Speaker 4: it was like that was a heart's way to enlighten it.

1752
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:40,760
Speaker 1: We all have our own lives, we all have our

1753
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Speaker 1: own experiences. All lives are our own, right, you know

1754
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 1: what I mean? So you know, like, no, we talk

1755
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:47,160
Speaker 1: about this all the time.

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Speaker 4: There's no absolute truth, you know, like there's no zero absolutes,

1757
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. What's great for somebody else

1758
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 4: might not be great for somebody might be great for

1759
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 4: the next person.

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01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:57,679
Speaker 1: So maybe, yeah, I guess that's that makes sense.

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01:22:57,760 --> 01:23:00,880
Speaker 4: Like we all are, you know, have to figure this

1762
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:02,799
Speaker 4: out for ourselves and go and live.

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01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 1: You know, our own lives and find our own way

1764
01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:10,840
Speaker 1: to content it, right, right, So we cracked the cod

1765
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:14,679
Speaker 1: We cracked the motherfucking code.

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Speaker 4: There we go, all right, all right, So I don't

1767
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:20,559
Speaker 4: want one more question, So I know what I want

1768
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:23,400
Speaker 4: to talk about. The river, Like was was that when

1769
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Speaker 4: he realized that because he was hearing like he was,

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01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 4: I guess like the past and the future.

1771
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 1: Were all going on the same time.

1772
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, he heard all all.

1773
01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:33,800
Speaker 1: Of everything at once. That's how I kind of feel

1774
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 1: at parties. That's why I hate going out because I

1775
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:36,800
Speaker 1: feel like everything on but.

1776
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:39,320
Speaker 4: Like you know, but like uh, but like yeah, he

1777
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:41,640
Speaker 4: hears everything was was was going on at once, and

1778
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 4: he just realizes the connection.

1779
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:43,920
Speaker 8: Right.

1780
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 3: It's a it's a common kind of image in Buddhism,

1781
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 3: the idea of the river, because the river is both

1782
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 3: always changing and always the same, Like it's not the

1783
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:57,760
Speaker 3: same water that's going in front of you. If you're

1784
01:23:57,760 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 3: standing up the river, it's not the same water, but

1785
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 3: yet the is the same. So that paradox is part

1786
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:07,800
Speaker 3: of kind of understanding that what we think of as

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01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:13,720
Speaker 3: real and solid is kind of our own understanding. It's

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01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 3: not necessarily reality. And so ultimately, what kind of unlocked

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Speaker 3: it for Sidartha I think was him understanding that time

1790
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:24,800
Speaker 3: is part of that, that time and of itself. You know,

1791
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 3: I said that that for Hindus and Buddhists, time goes

1792
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 3: infinitely on in both directions, but to kind of step

1793
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 3: back even further and say that even time itself is

1794
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 3: a construct, even time itself is something, so to say, like,

1795
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 3: in this life, I'm this thing, and in the next

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01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:45,559
Speaker 3: life I'll be something else. While if we're thinking about

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01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:48,840
Speaker 3: the eternity of time as a river, while it's not

1798
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:52,559
Speaker 3: really two separate lives, it's really the whole thing at once,

1799
01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:55,800
Speaker 3: the river is the whole thing at once. And so

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Speaker 3: that's kind of what unlocked it for him. I think

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01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:01,040
Speaker 3: was kind of pulling back and seeing all that at

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Speaker 3: the same time.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I have I have one more question.

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Speaker 9: So Tyler, when we first started the book, pointed out

1805
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:10,360
Speaker 9: that like Hermann, Hesse is German, and this book was

1806
01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 9: written at a time in Germany when like suffering was enlightenment,

1807
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:18,240
Speaker 9: like the idea was you had to you know, sort

1808
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 9: of go through this stuff to get to another level.

1809
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:24,040
Speaker 9: It became popular in America with like the baby boomer

1810
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:27,439
Speaker 9: beat generation. Like what I think of is more so

1811
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:31,200
Speaker 9: like affluent white Americans. You've been teaching the book to

1812
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:36,720
Speaker 9: like inner city Long Beach kids with you know, very

1813
01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:39,559
Speaker 9: few white kids in the class. How do they respond

1814
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Speaker 9: to the book and.

1815
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Speaker 2: And what do you how do you think that might

1816
01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 2: be different?

1817
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Speaker 9: I guess from the ways that you know, like our

1818
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:48,439
Speaker 9: parents might have been reading it in college or something.

1819
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:51,519
Speaker 3: Huh, that's a good question.

1820
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:54,680
Speaker 2: Like what's their reaction? Do they like the book or

1821
01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:55,800
Speaker 2: they like fuck this guy?

1822
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:56,400
Speaker 8: You know what I mean?

1823
01:25:56,439 --> 01:25:58,800
Speaker 3: You know, no, they generally like it. I think it's

1824
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 3: interesting because the last time I taught it, which was

1825
01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:06,559
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago, I got the juxtaposition between

1826
01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 3: Sidartha and Into the Wild. Into the Wild being the

1827
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:14,679
Speaker 3: story of the like rich white kid who just decided

1828
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:17,120
Speaker 3: to wander off into the wilderness by himself and then

1829
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 3: like died in a bus.

1830
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1831
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:23,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a movie about it. And it's actually

1832
01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 3: it's a really like it's a really beautifully written, really

1833
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:29,839
Speaker 3: compelling book, but like the kids that I taught could

1834
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 3: not have cared less about it. It was it was

1835
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 3: just really like, who does this guy think he is?

1836
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:39,439
Speaker 3: Like why doesn't he just like solve his problems? Like

1837
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:43,719
Speaker 3: he thinks he's got like the idea of wandering along?

1838
01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:47,759
Speaker 2: Right, you can solve all the problems my family's facing

1839
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:49,559
Speaker 2: right now? Why do I feel bad for you going

1840
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:50,840
Speaker 2: on this fucking journey or whatever?

1841
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 3: I mean, they didn't use the term white privilege, but

1842
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 3: it was definitely that like if you think that this

1843
01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 3: is something to worry about, like, oh, my parents don't

1844
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:04,600
Speaker 3: understand me, like seriously. So that was really interesting. But

1845
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:09,720
Speaker 3: I think Sadartha is kind of it's kind of a

1846
01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:12,800
Speaker 3: little bit further away from their ordinary lives, and so

1847
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 3: it's easier to get into it as kind of like

1848
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:19,920
Speaker 3: here's an interesting thought experiment, as opposed to like, here's

1849
01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 3: a guy that you might be sitting next to at

1850
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:28,639
Speaker 3: the movie theater sometimes right right, And so the part

1851
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:31,960
Speaker 3: with the part with the river, I would say they

1852
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:34,680
Speaker 3: were able to understand that there was some sort of

1853
01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 3: enlightenment that happened, but not necessarily to explain what it was.

1854
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:43,240
Speaker 3: And so I think that's kind of why it's a

1855
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:46,040
Speaker 3: book that stays with people is that you get that

1856
01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:48,680
Speaker 3: it's important, but you're not sure why. And then the

1857
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:50,920
Speaker 3: older you get, you might come back to it and think, like,

1858
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:53,479
Speaker 3: I think I understand a little bit more about this now,

1859
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:58,799
Speaker 3: And that's kind of I think my students really enjoyed

1860
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 3: talking about it, although they didn't necessarily I think get

1861
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 3: it on the first read.

1862
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that.

1863
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Speaker 4: River thing is like some fucking fourth dimension metaphysical ass

1864
01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 4: shit like time, you know what I mean, Like time

1865
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:16,400
Speaker 4: doesn't exist, you know, or.

1866
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Speaker 7: Like it's just some like like I always looked at it,

1867
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:23,120
Speaker 7: like there's this thing in nature that has been happening

1868
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:25,880
Speaker 7: millions of years before you and will be happening billions

1869
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:28,799
Speaker 7: of years after you, and it's totally new the whole time,

1870
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:30,920
Speaker 7: and so your little sixty years or so on this

1871
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 7: planet are really minusculing like the grand scheme of things.

1872
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:36,640
Speaker 3: Right, right, And I think I think that's part of it.

1873
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 3: The idea of that sound O is kind of like

1874
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 3: we hear it when talking about like, you know, people

1875
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:46,120
Speaker 3: meditating and stuff like that, but really it's supposed to

1876
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 3: be kind of the sound of everything all together at once.

1877
01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:51,760
Speaker 3: And I think about when Mike and I were in

1878
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:55,040
Speaker 3: like New York and Grand Central Station and hearing all

1879
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:58,439
Speaker 3: of the crazy chaos at once, and we'll like, that's

1880
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:01,479
Speaker 3: home as well. That's all of the voices together, all

1881
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:05,559
Speaker 3: of the things happening at once like a yeah kind

1882
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:07,840
Speaker 3: of but like a low roar. But then on top

1883
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:10,439
Speaker 3: of it, there's like something that makes a little bit

1884
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:13,559
Speaker 3: more sense. It's not just like a bunch of voices together.

1885
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:18,320
Speaker 3: There's something more to it than that. And that's I

1886
01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:22,080
Speaker 3: think that's kind of what what Saddartha was realizing. And

1887
01:29:22,120 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 3: I think that's why it's the title of the chapter

1888
01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:27,280
Speaker 3: is like, well, here's here's all of the time and

1889
01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:31,160
Speaker 3: all of the people, and that image of him looking

1890
01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:33,479
Speaker 3: into the river and realizing that his face is like

1891
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:36,320
Speaker 3: his father's face and that his father missed him too,

1892
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:40,760
Speaker 3: just like he misses his son was Yeah, it was

1893
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:44,320
Speaker 3: kind of a that that that moment always gets me

1894
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:46,920
Speaker 3: as well. But like, yeah, this, this, this fucked up

1895
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:49,479
Speaker 3: thing you're feeling about your son is exactly how you

1896
01:29:49,520 --> 01:29:51,920
Speaker 3: made your dad feel when you just like stood there

1897
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:53,479
Speaker 3: in his office for an.

1898
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:56,200
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.

1899
01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:58,960
Speaker 3: And made him made him let you leave. And that

1900
01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:00,519
Speaker 3: was the last time you ever saw him.

1901
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Speaker 24: But what's what's weird about that though, is like if

1902
01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:04,800
Speaker 24: he didn't do that, well he would have will he

1903
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:09,280
Speaker 24: ever have reached enlightenment if he didn't, you know, do

1904
01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:11,040
Speaker 24: that ship that hurt his dad?

1905
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:13,320
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And now and you know

1906
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:16,479
Speaker 1: like these cycles that we all kind of go through

1907
01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:17,160
Speaker 1: that you know what I mean?

1908
01:30:17,160 --> 01:30:20,840
Speaker 25: Like you knows as a child, when you're fighting to

1909
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:23,160
Speaker 25: find your own way and you have a kid and

1910
01:30:23,160 --> 01:30:25,160
Speaker 25: they're fighting to do that, and you're fighting against them

1911
01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:27,400
Speaker 25: because you don't want them to you know, I guess

1912
01:30:27,400 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 25: you're scared of what they'll you know, what have happened

1913
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:30,920
Speaker 25: to them or whatever, But they have to do that

1914
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:31,479
Speaker 25: in order to.

1915
01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:35,960
Speaker 1: Find their own content place in this world. It's it's

1916
01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:39,360
Speaker 1: that's that's it's all connected. It's like I said, it's

1917
01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:45,120
Speaker 1: all a cycle. But fuck, you know what I mean, Like.

1918
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Speaker 3: I mean saying, well, yeah, I think that I think

1919
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:51,280
Speaker 3: that Herman hes To definitely believes that that you have to,

1920
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 3: like you have to leave your family behind, you have

1921
01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:57,880
Speaker 3: to just like say, you know, I have no attachments

1922
01:30:57,880 --> 01:30:59,320
Speaker 3: to you. I'm going to say goodbye to my best

1923
01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:01,519
Speaker 3: friend and make them feel like an idiot and all

1924
01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:02,400
Speaker 3: of these things.

1925
01:31:02,160 --> 01:31:08,200
Speaker 4: Like he could not he's just a decade.

1926
01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:09,840
Speaker 3: Like to the extent that even when they meet up again,

1927
01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 3: Govinda keeps asking, like, are you making fun of me again?

1928
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:15,519
Speaker 4: Like and it was like calling my dear, you know,

1929
01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:17,640
Speaker 4: like like he's it seemed like the words you were

1930
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:19,240
Speaker 4: using were minimizing him.

1931
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:21,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But even when I think Herman Hesse believes that you

1933
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:27,880
Speaker 3: have to leave every leave everyone behind, because even when

1934
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:31,599
Speaker 3: he asks the Dartha talking to the Buddha, and he

1935
01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:35,479
Speaker 3: even has the Buddha admit, like basically admit that, yes,

1936
01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:38,479
Speaker 3: none of his followers are going to achieve enlightenment, and

1937
01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:40,479
Speaker 3: he says something to the effect of, like, but isn't

1938
01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:43,000
Speaker 3: their life better following me than it would be if

1939
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:45,439
Speaker 3: they were living in sin in the city, And like

1940
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:48,360
Speaker 3: he even admits that, like I'm leading them to a

1941
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:50,799
Speaker 3: better life, but it's still not going to be achieving

1942
01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:53,880
Speaker 3: their goal. And I think that that's I don't think

1943
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:58,400
Speaker 3: that that's what most Buddhists believe, but that's that seems

1944
01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:01,200
Speaker 3: to be what Herman Hesse wants to share with us.

1945
01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:03,720
Speaker 3: And I think that's why it was so attractive to

1946
01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:06,720
Speaker 3: beat Nicks as well. It's like some people who are

1947
01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:09,920
Speaker 3: just like looking down on society and literally living on

1948
01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:11,639
Speaker 3: like a hill in San Francisco, And.

1949
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:17,400
Speaker 1: Like, fuf man, I hate that place. There's people I

1950
01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:19,160
Speaker 1: love there, but I hate that place.

1951
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Speaker 4: But yeah, I think I think that's interesting about like

1952
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:29,120
Speaker 4: how we like.

1953
01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:32,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I talked about this in the last last podcast.

1954
01:32:32,280 --> 01:32:35,599
Speaker 4: I feel like I worry about people I may hurt

1955
01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:38,479
Speaker 4: on my path, you know what I mean, or people

1956
01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:42,720
Speaker 4: I may miss after I move on, because I have

1957
01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:44,519
Speaker 4: a certain journey I'm on, you know what I mean.

1958
01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:48,559
Speaker 4: But also like like if he didn't hurt his dad,

1959
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:49,760
Speaker 4: he wouldn't have found happiness.

1960
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Speaker 1: Also heard of his dad hurt.

1961
01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:54,400
Speaker 4: Him but it was necessary and whatever for whatever reason.

1962
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Speaker 4: And and and I guess, you know, life is confusing

1963
01:32:57,560 --> 01:32:59,840
Speaker 4: like that. Life there's gray area like that, and people

1964
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:03,040
Speaker 4: existences are their own and they have to you know.

1965
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Speaker 1: And I guess everybody has a you know, when everybody

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01:33:06,479 --> 01:33:11,240
Speaker 1: like I trip off me needing you know, mobility and

1967
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Speaker 1: all that.

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Speaker 4: Ship and leading people at times and hurting people, but

1969
01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:18,879
Speaker 4: in other ways, others have done similar things on their journey.

1970
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:20,880
Speaker 1: And I guess we're all just trying to figure it out.

1971
01:33:20,960 --> 01:33:21,519
Speaker 1: To a degree.

1972
01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:26,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, so, and we all are part of that low

1973
01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:28,559
Speaker 4: roar that's connected in a cycle.

1974
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:29,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1975
01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:31,440
Speaker 2: So good pick John.

1976
01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:34,160
Speaker 1: Think, So did I do? I did a good day.

1977
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:36,599
Speaker 1: I did a good day.

1978
01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:40,600
Speaker 9: I had three hundred people on Twitter to read Sida,

1979
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:42,679
Speaker 9: We're pretty crazy.

1980
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:45,519
Speaker 1: Yeah. So the next one is The Alchemist.

1981
01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:49,920
Speaker 2: Huh oh, I'm into it. I never read it. Yeah,

1982
01:33:50,040 --> 01:33:51,800
Speaker 2: you said my favorite book ever. I never read it.

1983
01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:53,559
Speaker 2: My dad loved that book. I never read it, though.

1984
01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:58,439
Speaker 4: I remember Will Smith, Uh who is I think of

1985
01:33:58,439 --> 01:33:59,040
Speaker 4: God on Earth?

1986
01:33:59,520 --> 01:33:59,800
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1987
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:03,160
Speaker 4: He's just really good at this round at old age,

1988
01:34:03,160 --> 01:34:03,919
Speaker 4: which is impressive.

1989
01:34:04,479 --> 01:34:07,160
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, like he's he he said.

1990
01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:08,840
Speaker 4: Something about the Alchemists and I just read it, and

1991
01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:11,440
Speaker 4: I remember, like the end made me fucking.

1992
01:34:11,240 --> 01:34:13,599
Speaker 1: Ball because it was just beautiful, you know what I mean?

1993
01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:17,720
Speaker 4: But uh, it was this is this similar to sin Artha,

1994
01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:19,240
Speaker 4: where you know, with this guy's on the journey and

1995
01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:22,080
Speaker 4: he's experienced different things. But I think the fact that

1996
01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:28,479
Speaker 4: you haven't read it, Michael is uh makes it makes

1997
01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:30,800
Speaker 4: me just want to hear your reaction to it.

1998
01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:32,280
Speaker 2: Oh, very Tyler, you read it.

1999
01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:33,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, I read it.

2000
01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:35,160
Speaker 2: Oh, very sure, you read it.

2001
01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:36,240
Speaker 3: I have not read it.

2002
01:34:36,360 --> 01:34:41,920
Speaker 7: Oh oh ship killer my uhh uh uh Tyler?

2003
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:43,280
Speaker 1: Once you read it, did you read around the same

2004
01:34:43,320 --> 01:34:43,880
Speaker 1: time I read it?

2005
01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:47,000
Speaker 7: I read that ship like I don't like two thousand

2006
01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:48,080
Speaker 7: and six, thousand and seven.

2007
01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:50,280
Speaker 4: Oh hell no, it was like this was like it's

2008
01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:52,000
Speaker 4: like twenty twelve or some shit whenever.

2009
01:34:52,479 --> 01:34:56,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, twenty thirteen like that. Yeah. So so, I mean, yeah,

2010
01:34:56,240 --> 01:34:57,120
Speaker 1: I haven't read it in a while.

2011
01:34:57,160 --> 01:34:59,320
Speaker 4: It's something I've said that I need to reread, and

2012
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:02,520
Speaker 4: I actually it again to reread it.

2013
01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:07,800
Speaker 1: So fuck it, that's next. All right, I'm excited you down, Tyler?

2014
01:35:07,880 --> 01:35:08,519
Speaker 1: Is that is that cool?

2015
01:35:08,680 --> 01:35:10,160
Speaker 5: I'm with it. Let's do this ship.

2016
01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:15,479
Speaker 1: We've really got a book club, guys, Yes, nerdy out

2017
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:16,960
Speaker 1: right now. I'm so excited.

2018
01:35:17,680 --> 01:35:20,360
Speaker 2: Is the book club gonna keep going during basketball season?

2019
01:35:21,400 --> 01:35:23,559
Speaker 5: That's a good no, I think we can.

2020
01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:25,200
Speaker 1: Come on, guys, come on, we can.

2021
01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:27,920
Speaker 2: I'm into it. I'm just saying you. You originally started

2022
01:35:27,920 --> 01:35:28,599
Speaker 2: this as the fun.

2023
01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:33,640
Speaker 7: I'm saying this as as an East Coaster who is

2024
01:35:33,640 --> 01:35:36,800
Speaker 7: going to be up till three o'clock watching all forty

2025
01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:37,800
Speaker 7: eight bron games.

2026
01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:39,920
Speaker 1: Wasn't the Warriors too, you know what I mean?

2027
01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:40,120
Speaker 8: So?

2028
01:35:40,479 --> 01:35:44,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so so you I mean come on, bro,

2029
01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:45,080
Speaker 1: you can't squeeze something.

2030
01:35:45,320 --> 01:35:47,360
Speaker 5: I mean, I read this ship already, so you know

2031
01:35:47,400 --> 01:35:48,440
Speaker 5: I can. God damn.

2032
01:35:49,840 --> 01:35:54,479
Speaker 4: Give you mother, use a spark notes, treat us like

2033
01:35:54,680 --> 01:35:56,800
Speaker 4: you treated your college teachers.

2034
01:35:58,080 --> 01:35:59,839
Speaker 1: Come on with friends here, Tyler.

2035
01:36:00,200 --> 01:36:01,880
Speaker 2: That's what I halftimes for, Tyler.

2036
01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:05,240
Speaker 4: Yeaes, squeeze that shit in in between a week ass

2037
01:36:05,240 --> 01:36:07,559
Speaker 4: sixers game where Simmons is shooting with the wrong hand,

2038
01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:08,840
Speaker 4: my nigga.

2039
01:36:09,640 --> 01:36:13,799
Speaker 1: Come on, all right, we'll figure it out. Though I'm reading.

2040
01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:18,280
Speaker 1: I know what I'm doing. I'm reading and watching sports.

2041
01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:22,000
Speaker 4: The basketball player in the middle school and the four

2042
01:36:22,040 --> 01:36:25,760
Speaker 4: age student in middle school needs both of those. I

2043
01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:29,160
Speaker 4: have many cells anyway, all right, I guess we're done.

2044
01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:31,519
Speaker 1: Thank you, shar appreciate.

2045
01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:33,040
Speaker 3: You, of course, thanks for having me.

2046
01:36:33,160 --> 01:36:33,400
Speaker 1: Cool.

2047
01:36:33,960 --> 01:36:34,519
Speaker 2: We'll need you.

2048
01:36:34,520 --> 01:36:36,760
Speaker 1: Again too, at the end of the at the end

2049
01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:38,719
Speaker 1: of the Alchemists. Is that okay?

2050
01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:40,080
Speaker 3: What was that?

2051
01:36:40,120 --> 01:36:42,040
Speaker 1: We need you again at thend of Alchemist.

2052
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:43,519
Speaker 3: We're gonna use Oh yeah, sure, we're gonna use.

2053
01:36:43,439 --> 01:36:45,080
Speaker 1: Your brain at the end of every book so you

2054
01:36:45,080 --> 01:36:45,800
Speaker 1: can tell us when.

2055
01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:47,280
Speaker 3: We went wrong and right.

2056
01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:49,880
Speaker 1: Okay, that's fine. Is that cool?

2057
01:36:50,280 --> 01:36:50,920
Speaker 3: Sounds like fun?

2058
01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:51,160
Speaker 8: Yeah?

2059
01:36:51,200 --> 01:36:52,439
Speaker 2: Definitely fucking perfect?

2060
01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:55,800
Speaker 1: All right, guys, I'm so excited about this all right,

2061
01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:56,960
Speaker 1: I'm off.

2062
01:36:57,200 --> 01:37:30,519
Speaker 8: All right, all right, bye bye.

2063
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:15,120
Speaker 4: Y y.

2064
01:37:17,320 --> 01:37:27,759
Speaker 22: You know the wave lovers and another die hid back

2065
01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:32,599
Speaker 22: tie Dian staring at your table through the bloody ye

2066
01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:40,559
Speaker 22: y Yeah, you'll make you'll.

2067
01:37:40,479 --> 01:37:40,920
Speaker 18: Make me.

2068
01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:55,280
Speaker 22: Lose it, sir for you dons. Would you say you

2069
01:37:55,520 --> 01:37:57,720
Speaker 22: left there on your side.

2070
01:37:59,040 --> 01:37:59,639
Speaker 5: My life?

2071
01:38:00,720 --> 01:38:02,800
Speaker 18: I I last time?

2072
01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:06,400
Speaker 4: No not not mad?

2073
01:38:07,920 --> 01:38:14,120
Speaker 1: You ever say, yeah, do not know that girl? That

2074
01:38:14,479 --> 01:38:16,439
Speaker 1: girl and say.

2075
01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:18,840
Speaker 18: Oh not not that.

2076
01:38:20,520 --> 01:38:24,400
Speaker 2: You ever say, did you not.

2077
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:31,599
Speaker 22: Ma black girl and grather so's everything?

2078
01:38:36,479 --> 01:38:36,719
Speaker 18: Yeah?

2079
01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:41,320
Speaker 1: You know your mother said.

2080
01:38:48,439 --> 01:38:51,240
Speaker 18: About gods that.

2081
01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:54,639
Speaker 3: So to double to the by side?

2082
01:38:56,640 --> 01:39:05,559
Speaker 18: Who the blacks? You're not my man? The ever thing?

2083
01:39:06,120 --> 01:39:12,400
Speaker 1: Did you not not not like girl and girl of seven?

2084
01:39:13,200 --> 01:39:15,840
Speaker 18: Did boy not not mad?

2085
01:39:17,640 --> 01:39:19,000
Speaker 1: Everything he did?

2086
01:39:20,760 --> 01:39:22,160
Speaker 18: Oh not my man?

2087
01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:28,960
Speaker 22: Black god god seys everything.

2088
01:39:30,280 --> 01:39:32,080
Speaker 12: Right by bye?

2089
01:39:39,280 --> 01:39:43,479
Speaker 18: Oh all the way fire you know what going all

2090
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:43,840
Speaker 18: the way?

2091
01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:46,280
Speaker 1: Fire out all the

2092
01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:50,439
Speaker 22: Way fire you know me building right bi