1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:08,239 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcasts hanging out. It's shingle. We 2 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: go back to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast. 3 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis. I'm joined by a room 4 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Greg Rosenthal. 5 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: What is up, boys? Hey Dan? Uh, it's raining cats 6 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: and dogs, non lit cats and dogs outside. It was 7 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: Sam Donald's pro day at usc You would have thought Sam, 8 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: Greg that you would have thought Sam conquered the Nazis 9 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: in the way he was being, Uh, the hero worship 10 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: thrown his way because he threw some spirals in the rain. Yeah, 11 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: I was. I was a little taken aback by the 12 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: what was going on in reaction to his like that 13 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: he had battled through war and mud and everything to 14 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: throw a football. I saw somebody Cleveland Browns could not 15 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: have asked for a better scenario than this. Yeah yeah, Well, 16 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: also were like Donald. This is how Donald wanted it 17 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: to be able to spin in the elements. It's like, hey, hey, 18 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: you can't. You can't predict the weather on Sundays in 19 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: the Northeast. Sign us up, he can do it. I'm sold. 20 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: This guy's a warrior. Meanwhile, our our buddy, you know, 21 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: move the sticks is over on the sideline and rouncing 22 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: it with NFL network. But unlike Sam Donald, you know, 23 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: he's not out in the elements. He's got an umbrella, 24 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,839 Speaker 1: he's got helping him, you know, with everything to stay 25 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: dry are being kept utterly perfect. JEREMYA has reached the 26 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 1: stage now basically where he's just he has a handler. 27 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: You remember when p did he had the guy that 28 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: walked around with the umbrella, and basically you had a 29 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: caretaker that's removed the sticks is now, although I did 30 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: notice in the picture Mayock was there and had a 31 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: better umbrella. It is possible to hold these events without 32 00:01:55,320 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: blowing them out of proportion. For years, Twitter, well, things 33 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: are different, Nows, things are very different. I mean it 34 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: doesn't have to never mind, we're not going to go 35 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: down this road. Do you want to save it for 36 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: the personal grievances against the pro day structure podcast? No? 37 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: I mean it's just you get into this job long 38 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: enough and you become convinced that things are important that 39 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: really aren't important, and that's something that has really no importance. 40 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: I'll never forget sitting next to West during the Teddy 41 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: Bridgewater glove no glove pro day that that had western 42 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: a jumble. It's like quite wasting your time. And just 43 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: watch his game film. I mean, I just love that 44 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: he was out there doing it because you know he 45 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: loves the game. He's a ball player. You play ball. 46 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: You don't have to do this. You have to do it. 47 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: And here he is spitting it in the rain. You 48 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: don't care. He loves it. This guy's a dog, all right. 49 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: Uh steps wrong, destroys his knee and renders all of 50 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: that irrelevant. Thankfully that that did not happen. All right, 51 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: here's something that really is important West. When you talk 52 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: about the league calendar F the Super Bowl, F, the Draft, 53 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: F free agency, uh F F the week one ope 54 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: F kickoff night. What that's a great night. The only 55 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: thing that matters is the owners meetings in Orlando next week. 56 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: And guess what the heroes of the Around the NFL podcast, 57 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: as we said, we'll be there with multiple podcasts and 58 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a little different because, uh, you know, 59 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: we got some big fish. Sis want some big fish 60 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: scheduled finger than Evan Silma brought well, no, never to 61 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: bring him into the boat. How about a little Dan Quinn. 62 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: How about a little Matt Naggy? Does that? Anybody want 63 00:03:53,000 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: a little bit of Johnny Harbaugh? Fight is in the music? 64 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: Stay on? Hey, now, how about a little bit Oh yeah, 65 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: Orchard Park hero turned head coach Frank Right, We're not 66 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: done yet. How about a little Oh yeah, he's got 67 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: his own booth at the steakhouse, Andy read that is 68 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: the music I associate with Andy Reid. And last, but 69 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: not least, oh yeah, this guy's got a brain for football. 70 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: He's Adam Gaze. All scheduled guests next week on the 71 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast. And that's when you read gotta 72 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: do to you know, be either the first one mentioned 73 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,799 Speaker 1: or the last. You just gotta buried there in the middle, 74 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: poor guy. Uh. In fairness, I just read it off 75 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: an email that was sent to us yesterday. We should 76 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: play that clip of music for each of these guys 77 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: during the interview, just to get the response. Of course, 78 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: I agree that, Yeah, how do you feel about your 79 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: int music? They all got, They all got their own songs. 80 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: To Greg, you asked, why not just leave him playing? 81 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: Did you not tell you're not a big fan of 82 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: E D M music? I did not notice the difference 83 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: between some deep cuts electronic dance music. As I just said, 84 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: electronic dance music music. I would say, Dan, we are 85 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: maybe you and I are sneaky d M fans. We 86 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: were talking actually last year of going to a downtown 87 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: l A rave, which we never probably for the best 88 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: for everyone, I still want to go, Um, yeah, who 89 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: do we say? We saw? Steve Ioki was at the 90 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: should have the entire including waiting in line for like 91 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: an hour to get in speaking to twenty three year 92 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: olds about you know whatever, is going to stop projecting. 93 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that I got dragged to one of 94 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: these events when I first moved to l A because 95 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: I didn't have any friends out here. And if you're 96 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: the most miserable, like a hour and a half, I 97 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: I strongly disagree because the one that that we attended, 98 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: they were shooting like water balloons and shaving cream into 99 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: the sky and like it was raining various other kind 100 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: of things. We're reigning up on us. I've been to 101 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: some raves Montreal, New Orleans. I mean now I'm a 102 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: little old for it. Anyway. So those coaches are going 103 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 1: to be on the podcast next week, so we're very excited. Uh, 104 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna be uh staying at the hotel where all 105 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: the coaches are, so you know, maybe oh we're not. No, 106 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: didn't you hear all of the uh the league officials 107 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: that are going to be there, all the gms and coaches, 108 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: they all invited all of their families. So not only 109 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: did we all get bumped out of the hotel, but 110 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: we also had a lot of people that were told 111 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: they can no longer make the trip. I'm surprised because 112 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 1: they bring their families every year to this in the hotel, 113 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: as Greg and I know from being the last time. 114 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: It's a massive, sprawling, gigantic estate. It's where we ran 115 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: past Anderson Cooper. I guess we're staying at they we 116 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: found something to be upset about. So that's good. Big 117 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: show coming up today. We're excited to go to Orlando. 118 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 1: Who couldn't be excited to go to Orlando? Uh and 119 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: go down in your hand west. Uh. So a lot 120 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: to get to today. UM. Free agency now officially a 121 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: week old. UM, as you listen to this, so we 122 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: are gonna go through the what's left, the old best 123 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: of what's left pile, which these are human beings, so 124 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: you want to be um, respectful, respectful, But this old 125 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: pile of discarded human bodies, we're gonna pick some out 126 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: of the pile and say you deserve to live, you 127 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: deserve to stay in the pile, that type of thing. 128 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: So that's a little weird, um. And we got some 129 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: news to get to in fact, let's get to it, 130 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: starting with a big change coming up in the rules 131 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: that might, maybe we hope, make football a little more enjoyable. 132 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: And beyond, let's do some news to the ends. After 133 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: reviewing the play, the receiver Indians one did not survive 134 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: the ground. It's an incomplete path, all right. You heard 135 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: that Jesse James had a touchdown over ruled against the Patriots, 136 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: costing Pittsburgh that game or helping the cost in that game. UH. 137 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:13,679 Speaker 1: And that led to more fury about the arcane catch 138 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: rule and how there needed to be a change, and 139 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: we are heading in that direction now the NFL. Uh 140 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: it took a step forward on that front al river iron. 141 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: The uh Senior Veep of Officiating announced Wednesday that the 142 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: Competition Committee will recommend simplifying the language of the catch rule. 143 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 1: The proposed changes will be presented next week at the 144 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: annual League meeting. Uh. They the proposed rules defining a 145 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: catch are control of the ball number one, okay, makes sense, two, 146 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: two ft down or another body part like your buttocks 147 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: mark could be your butt uh number three And this 148 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: is where people are gonna start getting upset again. But 149 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: I still feel like this is positive, positive momentum. A 150 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: football move such as colon a third step, semi colon, reaching, slash, 151 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: extending for the line to gain semi colon, or the 152 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: ability to perform such an act. West your thoughts. So, 153 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: my biggest problem with the catch roll, or I think 154 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 1: society's biggest problem with the catch roll was twofold number one. 155 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: It lacked any semblance of common sense. How can a 156 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: player reach the ball for the end zone without first 157 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 1: possessing it. That doesn't make any sense whatsoever. We learn 158 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: what it catches in the backyard by the time we 159 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: reached Toddler hood. We see an NFL receiver catch the ball, 160 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: possess it, run three steps in the middle of the field, 161 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: and have it ruled no catch. That doesn't make any sense. 162 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: We know what a catches and that's a catch, So 163 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:59,479 Speaker 1: that's insanity. I think this problem might not go away. 164 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: The kip problem was that the NFL should be encouraging 165 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: transcendent moments that inspire fans, stretch physical limitations, and make 166 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: an athletic achievements sublime, like des Bryant catch, which was 167 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: ruled in no catch. The NFL should be encouraging that play, 168 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: not legislating out of the game. And River Run on 169 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: Twitter went out of his way after this announcement to 170 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: say that Desert catch and the James catch would both 171 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: become receptions under the news, and that's what you want 172 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 1: if you're the NFL. Those are things that not the 173 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: entire three hours of a game is not all that exciting. 174 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: There are a lot of downtimes, but the most exciting 175 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: players are the ones you want to keep and encourage. 176 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: The main changes here the mag changes. You don't no 177 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: longer have to completely possess it going to the ground. 178 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: To me, that's that's kind of the headline, and that's 179 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: basically it. The other the other thing they'll allow is, 180 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: you know, there's a little bit of you know, they 181 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: can allow a little bit of juggling, you know, on 182 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: the ground as you're catching it, if if you show 183 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: that you have caught the ball. And then the third 184 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: part of it, which really blew my mind and just 185 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: showed how poorly they were doing things last year. Is 186 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: they're basically just saying, we're emphasizing again it has to 187 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: be indisputable to overturn it. But that was always the rule. 188 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: They're just they're admitting that Al river On and the 189 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: NFL as a whole, we're making a lot of mistakes 190 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: last year by not listening to their own rules. I 191 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: don't think this is going to eliminate people yelling about 192 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: the catchule, because ultimately it's an it's an impossible solution. 193 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: I think himself talked about burning the rule down to 194 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: the core and rebuilding it. That's not happened. But if 195 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: they can to the point, to your point, where's the 196 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: sublime plays that have been reversed? And it's a massive 197 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: pr headache for football and for the NFL to have 198 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: to explain these from the weeks after and what it 199 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: does to teams, what it did to the Steelers. If 200 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: they can remove five to ten of those a season, 201 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: everything is better in my opinion, my opinion, but they're 202 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: always just react into what happened the previous season. There 203 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: didn't it get better after down the stretch? In the 204 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: playoffs too. Remember we talked about they quietly changed before 205 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 1: this this ever happened. But yeah, you bringing up the 206 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: Jesse James catch and the Dez Bryant catch was which 207 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: was in the two thousand fourteen postseason. Those are both 208 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: incredible games that to me and a lot of the 209 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: other fans felt were spoiled by uh that rule, And 210 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: hopefully if you could just eliminate that type of shenanigans, 211 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: it's a success to me. I don't think anybody's ever 212 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: gonna be happy. I don't think anyone's ever truly happy 213 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: about anything anymore. There's always something someone's gonna complain well, 214 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: and people saying, oh I really missed the catch rule 215 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: and all the crazy stuff, so that would be fixed. 216 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: In the reviews, reviews just aren't a fun part of 217 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: the game, like I would. I would ask Roger Goodell 218 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: that next week, maybe maybe I can. It's like, does 219 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: does that hurt your enjoyment of the game watching these reviews? 220 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: And it's not. He's he's not going to speak to you. 221 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: This isn't exclusive to football. We see in March Madness 222 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: there are like ten to twelve minute delays for review reviews. 223 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: And coaches want to keep that stuff in the game 224 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 1: because it affects their jobs. Fans don't want it, so 225 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: I think there should be more of a fan voice 226 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 1: in this where you need to have the entertainment maximized 227 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: and some of the you know, over scrutinizing of plays minimized. Uh. 228 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: Moving on to uh NFL transaction news, Alan Hearns joins 229 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 1: the uh free agency field. The Jacksonville Jaguars released the 230 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: wide receiver this coming two years after her inside a 231 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: four year, forty million dollar contract. UH. So the Jags decide, 232 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: we don't want to pay this guy anymore, so they 233 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:42,239 Speaker 1: save seven million on their cap, no dead money. Herns 234 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: as a rookie h had a thousand yards and ten 235 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: touchdowns second year second New York excuse me, but has 236 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: not been close to the same player since the Jags 237 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: go in a different direction to wide receiver. The biggest 238 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: mistake teams make, I think the most costly is when 239 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: they self scout poorly. This contract had a lot of 240 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: repercussions here Allan Robinson and his price tag looking for 241 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: a long term extension was higher over the last two 242 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: years because they gave Alan Hearns so much money. I 243 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: read something from Tom Current in New England that the 244 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: second Alan Herns signed this contract, that was the moment 245 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: that Malcolm Butler essentially was on his way to be 246 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: coming an next Patriot. They were close to doing a deal, 247 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: and when an undrafted player like Alan Herns in his 248 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: same draft class suddenly got ten million dollars a year, 249 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: Butler was like, that's what I want. They went out 250 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: of their way to pay Allen Hearns really early and 251 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: it just didn't work. But think about that, coming out 252 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: of two thousand fifteen season, Blake Bordle stories for thirty 253 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: five touchdowns Allen Robinson and Alan Herns, the two Alan's. 254 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: They're gonna build this offense. They've got Julius Thomas, and 255 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: none of those receivers are left anymore. They end up 256 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: paying Dante Moncrief nine million, but they can't pay the 257 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: franchise tag for Allen Robinson. Doesn't make sense. The Moncreeft 258 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: signing is mysterious. I do like I like D D. 259 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: Westbrook a lot. Uh In other wide receiver news, Ryan 260 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: Grant thought he had a nine million dollar deal with 261 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: the Ravens, but then he flunked a physical mark yeah, 262 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: and obvious that Yeah, I think the new the new 263 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: aspect is that sounds like utter bunk to me out 264 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: of Baltimore, which we can ask John harborow about this 265 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: weekend hard hitting. So you better now you're on the 266 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: spot if I have if I asked I want to 267 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: bring some Ravens heat, that would not be at the 268 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: top of my list, but I will make it. If 269 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: you're going to do this, you gotta do it right. 270 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: You have to frame the question, and that would be 271 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: that would even make the top of your list. We 272 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: should just let the Harbaugh interview be just Mark with 273 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: a list of grievances be there will be there be 274 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: Like Jim Gray interviewing Pete Rose, we would have Ravens 275 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: pr on us in literally five seconds saying we will 276 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: never cooperate with your podcast ever again. So Grants goes 277 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: from signing a twenty nine million dollar deal with the 278 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: Ravens to a prove It one year deal worth five 279 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: million with the Cults. Uh and Grant says he's healthy. 280 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: He said, if there was an issue with my ankle, 281 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: then I wouldn't have passed the physical with the Colts 282 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: and the Raiders, which listen speaks to Mark's point, and 283 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: he's gonna get the He's gonna get to the bottom 284 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: of this with Harbaugh face to face just a few days. Uh, 285 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: so we'll see. I don't know who knows what their cults. 286 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: Maybe that's maybe a good signing if their quarterbacks blank, 287 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: they don't have a lot of depth at all. He 288 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: had a remarkably positive attitude, saying, you know that that 289 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: didn't happen, wasn't meant to be. Not a big deal 290 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: for a guy who lost, Yeah, tens of millions of 291 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: dollars in that transaction. But that's that's the type of 292 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: attitude and the type of perseverance you get from an 293 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: education at Tulane University. Well done. Uh. Chris Ballard very 294 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: busy man. Uh. In addition to inking Ryan Grant, he 295 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: also signed Eric Ebron, the former Lion's first round pick, 296 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: to a two year deal can earn up to fifteen million, 297 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: which is pretty good money for a guy that just 298 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: did not get it done in Detroit but has some upside. Also, 299 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: they signed guard Jack Court to one year at one 300 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: point five billion dollar deal, bringing him back UH former 301 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: second round pick in uh, and also Matt Slawson, another guard. Uh. 302 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: It was on the Chargers last year. One year, three 303 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: million dollars. So the Colts making moves now. They just 304 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: need their quarterback to be able to play football. It 305 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: seems like Frank break is gonna use two tight end 306 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: sets because they paid Jack Doyle last year too, and 307 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: they like him. I think we'll see an increase in that. 308 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 1: And I like that they're signing interior alignment, so it's 309 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: not something they need to address in the first or 310 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: second round of the draft. You can still go in 311 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: the mid rounds and and try to pick up some guards. 312 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: They need these guys to be healthy. Move Hort Dan's 313 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 1: guy and Slawson a twenty four combined games missed over 314 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: the last two seasons. I like what Chris Ballard has 315 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 1: done the last week, though he sat out the first 316 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 1: over project. What's your favorite type of frog? The stupid money? Yeah, 317 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: and he got guys that good value that can play. 318 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: Denko Autrey was another guy last week for the Raiders. 319 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: Solid player at that's what you're doing. He's building it. 320 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: But it is his quarterback play. Well, that's all that 321 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 1: really matters. From everything we heard out of him, they 322 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: expected to play, didn't we hear that last year. A 323 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: disturbing story actually out of Los Angeles, UH, Buffalo Bill's 324 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: wide receivers. A Jones, their second round pick last year, 325 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: was arrested on felony vandalism charge. But that doesn't quite 326 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 1: paint the picture of what happened there was. The incident 327 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: involved Jones and his brother who's also an NFL player, 328 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: UH and and Jones A. Jones was completely nude in 329 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: the surveillance video, also kicked through a glass window, pretty 330 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: thick plank glance and leaving behind I think some of 331 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: his leg because there was a lot of blood. He 332 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: tried to crawl through the hole that he kicked. Yeah, 333 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: so very disturbing story in the sense obviously something was 334 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: not right with Jones, and hopefully it's not something uh 335 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: too serious. But if you're the Bills, and if you're 336 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: in Za Jones a friend or family member, you got 337 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: to be very concerned earned about what's going on with 338 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 1: the young man. I don't want to speculate, but I mean, 339 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: if they were I don't know, if they were out 340 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: on the town or something, I would suggest that maybe 341 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 1: more than one or two beers involved here, maybe something else. 342 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: That's what you hope. It's almost like you had the hope. 343 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: It was just there's a lot of similarity to the 344 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: synthetic marijuana cases we've seen. Mm I like that little 345 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 1: speculation of synthetic marijuana use. I'm just drawing the similarities 346 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: to what who is the cyrus quanjo who ended up 347 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: in a cornfield naked? Yeah? Should we do a p 348 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: s A for our listeners to kind of steer clear 349 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 1: of the synthetic. Yeah, there's a great legal stuff everywhere. 350 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: If you feel like you must ingest marijuana products, you know, 351 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: go for the real thing. As with most things in life, 352 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 1: try the organic variety and obviously if it's legal in 353 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: your state. Yes, played by the rule. We got to 354 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: cover every base here at around the NFL podcast. Don't 355 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 1: do illegal things. There will be repercussions unless it's fun 356 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: and you can get away with it. It was it 357 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 1: was uns There are no people. I mean, it's a 358 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 1: concerning the element for z Jones, who had one of 359 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: the most concerning I guess seasons for a highly drafted 360 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: rookie just on the field, and it was drafted by 361 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: Doug Whaler, So he might even though he's a second 362 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: round pick because he was drafted by the old regime. 363 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: You know he might not you know, he might be 364 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: on thin ice there and no longer go on scholarship. 365 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: Good news for the throne of ease. Matthew Slater, who 366 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: shopped his wares around town, including with the Pittsburgh Steelers, 367 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: agreed to resign with the Pats a two year contract. 368 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 1: Mike Garifolo reported, Uh, Slater thirty two years old. Uh, 369 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: the son of Hall of Fame tackle Jackie Slater, which 370 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: I'm just learning this from Chris Wesling's copy. Uh spoken 371 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: about it on this podcast that you didn't realize he 372 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: was Jackie Slater. So really I've been doing this. Someone 373 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 1: said he didn't realize that he was Jackie Slater. So 374 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: whatever the point. This is the guy, and I think 375 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: in my Super Bowl glossary right up before the Super 376 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: Bowl this year under Matt Slater, the guy that Bill 377 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: Belichick will say is his favorite play or ever during 378 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: his Hall of Fame speech because he's a Belichick guy, 379 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: and he's an excellent tool for the Patriots. Whenever they 380 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: say we've got media availability and we don't want to 381 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: put some sort of hot button issue personnelity, it's always 382 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: Matthew Slater, commanding his own booth during media day and 383 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: during every isted he redefines polish. I mean this guy. 384 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: I was watching a little bit of his media night 385 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: and Opening Night, Mark, let's get I mean every day 386 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,719 Speaker 1: that they have media available. I'm talking about Opening night, 387 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I was really taken back by how incredibly 388 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: well spoken it was, how he was able to basically 389 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: sound like a coach, a guy that's on the field 390 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: as a coach, essentially the guy you want to keep around. 391 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: He's got to be in the top five for most 392 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: words ever spoken at NFL Media Night. Well, he's been 393 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: to five, right I would. I think he's been to 394 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: the ones this decade. So he's been to five, and 395 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: he's saying more things than Tom Brady is saying. Just yeah. 396 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: People are aren't usually crowded around him, But those are 397 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: the guys mark your dog a journal and those are 398 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: the guys that you want to zoom in on. I do. 399 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time with him during those events, 400 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: if I can. There there are two Patriots airs. There's 401 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: only been There's only been I think four players and 402 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm gonna be wrong now here that have 403 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: been in the Gronk era. It's mccordy, Gronk, Tom Brady 404 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: and Matthew Slater. Gronk is one of those people. Gronk 405 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: has survived the Gronk era like the two thousand tens. 406 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: Is there any other patriot that's been on the team 407 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: that long? Perhaps, Kastowski said, that's right. Got moving on. 408 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: ESPN has hired X Bears head coach John Fox's studio 409 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: analysts and uh this reported by The Athletic. And Fox 410 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: is a guy that's been around for a long time. 411 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: The reason I'm bringing this up and I'm interested to 412 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: hear what you guys said say about it. But on 413 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: Rhoda World, the blurb is just fire and brimstone, and 414 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 1: I'm gonna read it to you. And I hope the 415 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: big Fish, the biggest of all fish, Evans Silva road it. 416 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: We gotta get Evan back on the show. What are 417 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 1: these networks going to learn that hiring these past their 418 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: prime former head coaches and players who have seen the 419 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: sport completely pass them by isn't good for their viewership. 420 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: Fox is another atrocious higher in a laundry list of 421 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 1: them made by ESPN Network over the years. It's time 422 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: for forward thinkers rather than stone age football guys who 423 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:30,239 Speaker 1: still live in a world shot at that feels right 424 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: Silva's tree. He could have co wrote it with Rhodopath. 425 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: I think I might put my money on Rhodopad for 426 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: that one. Hey fanatical this offseason? Two? Who on what 427 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: topic you are you? I am always leary of people 428 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: driving agendas, and Rodo World is now driving an agenda. 429 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: And I think it's like, first we get st hood 430 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: for Shaucy Brown. That's the first thing they want st 431 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: hood for something who's never done anything wrong ever, Ladies 432 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: and jem for one night and has foreseen everything that 433 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: could possibly be seen in football. Sashy Brown foresaw it. 434 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 1: He knew that the Houston Texans were gonna lose their quarterback, 435 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 1: have a horrible season, and have a top four draft pick. 436 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: All credit to Sashy Brown for that and everything analytics 437 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 1: is gold. And nobody who's made a career out of 438 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: football knows anything throw the world knows so much more 439 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: than anybody who's ever made a career in football. WHOA 440 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: this was unforeseen? I like this. I love the rant. 441 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 1: I guess we're not gonna have Evan on well I 442 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 1: love Evan Silva. He's great. He's now has an agenda 443 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: though Evan, Evan will be the first guide who will 444 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: come on to share his opinion. Evan just like threw 445 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: his his smartphone off the top of the series tower. 446 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,959 Speaker 1: He likes. He likes going back and forth. I've been 447 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: back and forth. The one thing I would say on 448 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: the Fox blurb though, is I think it's very hard 449 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: to predict who's gonna be good and who's gonna be 450 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: bad on TV. There were a lot of you know, 451 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: friends of of Foxy on Twitter yesterday were like, trust me, 452 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 1: he's gonna be great on TV. He's so great off 453 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: off Mike and we'll see. I don't know, but it 454 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 1: wouldn't shock me if he was really great on TV. 455 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: For instance, like Rex Ryan not really as exciting on 456 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: TV as you would expect. And sometimes guys like Eric 457 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: Man Jeanne was pretty great and it's pretty good, and 458 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: it's not as a smooth thing. It's an in studio thing. 459 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: And I will say for John Fox, as boring as 460 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: the Bears were and as boring as some of his 461 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 1: teams can be, he is not boring at at past 462 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: owners meetings, for instance, when everyone is just in a 463 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 1: room together tying, and he is fun. He came to 464 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: an Oscar party that we that NFL never had a 465 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, and he was the life of 466 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: the party. Well, I mean I was. I was lucky 467 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: to get to the door it was back then, but 468 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: it was like he was in there holding court for hours. 469 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: So I was like you and who's the woman who 470 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: runs Vanity Fairway? Wow? I really fallen story here, just 471 00:25:55,640 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: like Mark hanging out at Oscar parties, not at he's 472 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 1: a photographer. But John Fox, I agree. You don't want 473 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: him in the bet down that road. There's that potential 474 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,239 Speaker 1: for the phil sims like you got the ball at 475 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: the fourth and one at the forty yard line, you 476 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 1: gotta punt here, you gotta punt. You're gonna get that 477 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: with John Fox. But in the studio I feel like 478 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: he's I've seen him out during super Bowl week. The 479 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: guy has fun time. He's got a good personalities gregarious 480 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 1: hold hold tight roto before were in a wind tour. Okay, 481 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: and finally in the news, you know that I am 482 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: the kicker insider um for all things NFL media related. 483 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: Uh So I figured it'd be a good time. Now 484 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 1: that free agency is a weekend to go through little 485 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: kicker news like this, It's good. Ryan suck Up resigned 486 00:26:53,840 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 1: five years million of Titans. Cody Parker so four years 487 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: fifteen million with the Bears. Dustin Hopkins resigned three years 488 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: six point eight seven five with the Redskins. Graham Gano 489 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: four year seventeen Carolina, Adam Finitieri one year three six 490 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: with the Cults, Matt Bryant three years ten five Falcons, 491 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: Chandler Cannon Zarrow three years nine point seven five Tampa Bay, 492 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: Cairo Santos one year two million, New York Football Jets, 493 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: Caleb Sturgis two years four point four five Chargers Finally, 494 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: last but not least, resigning an undisclosed deal with the 495 00:27:54,960 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: Minnesota Kons. Kai Ky kickers are getting paid some money. 496 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 1: When you are on the rundown that you send out 497 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: before the show, you said there was gonna be a 498 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: roundup of kicker news. I went and spent about forty 499 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: five to fifty minutes finding out nuggets and factoids for 500 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: each one of those kickers not needed um some somehow 501 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: now in the mood for like a little cinemax, some 502 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: a few a few notable unemployed kickers see bass still 503 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: on the market. The Chargers blew that what you what 504 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: you think Caleb Sturgis is packing the house? You bring Sebastis? 505 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: I think you brings Janikowski. It's a little warning shot 506 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: up to your friends in Oakland. We're taking over l A. 507 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: Now let's have some fun with Chargers have bigger concerns 508 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: in packing the house, Like how about hit a kick 509 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: Kaski would be good. How do we know Nick Folk 510 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: the folk hero after a disastrous office Has anyone ever 511 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: called him the folks? Oh? Yeah, the New York tabloids 512 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: did it like seven times over course of his career 513 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: with the Jets. Blair Walsh doesn't have a job. Nick 514 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: Novak doesn't have a job. And Mike Nugent, your old 515 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: favorite West the news cost is Incinnati playoff game against 516 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: the Jets once upon a time, still unemployed. That's what's 517 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: happening in the news. All right, So I just brought 518 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: up some free agents, uh, still looking for work? Now, 519 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: let's talk about some with respect to the Kickers, more 520 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: prominent NFL players on the market still and we should 521 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,719 Speaker 1: start Greg Rosenthal with in Dominan sue the defensive tackle 522 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: released by the Dolphins last week. And the more as 523 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,719 Speaker 1: the days and hours go by, the more it looks possible, Greg, 524 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: that a super defensive line of epic proportions is being 525 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: set up right in our backyard. I hope, so, I 526 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: hope that Indomican Sue is going to join the Rams. 527 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: As we came up to the studio today, Ian Rappaport, 528 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: our NFL Network insider, reported that his SU's trip to 529 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: the Raiders is off the court. Sources told him and 530 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: Mike Silver, he's back home. He's not gonna make a decision. 531 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: Rams made a strong impression, but also considering the Saints 532 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: and the Titans, and I think you could if you 533 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: wanted to read between the lines on this tweet, Rams 534 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: made a nice impression. That's what they pay for. Rams 535 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: made a nice impression. Up. You know, Sue wants them 536 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: to pony up, pony up a little more. Maybe maybe 537 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: they're not offering as much money as a Saints and Titans. 538 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: Maybe hasn't gotten to that point, but I just you 539 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: get the feeling that Rams or maybe in the pole 540 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: position here between the lines, visionary Greg Rosen, that's what 541 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: he's known as. It will be odd to see Sue. 542 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: I realized he had one or two Lions teams that 543 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: were semi successful, but he's consistently attached to lose or 544 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: franchises that ultimately go nowhere. It would be nice to 545 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: see him on the Rams. Saints Thoughts or Rams kind 546 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: of fell that, Hey, I've got a titance to make 547 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: a contender better. I'd like to see him on the Titan. 548 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like he goes into totally 549 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: anonymous land the way it seems like it's trending. Titans 550 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: need more name players they can get a modicum of 551 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,479 Speaker 1: attention from network. Really surprised if he did not go 552 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: to a team that was in the playoffs last year 553 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: and his viewed as a contender. Actually, the Titans know 554 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: they were in the divisional round, they won a game. 555 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: He ain't taking a penny less to the top offer. 556 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: We already know that. Well, maybe he's changed was people 557 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: can change. I don't think he has. He has come 558 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: out and said this is his m O. I like 559 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: no player I've ever seen before. He's come out and 560 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: it is an adjustment. Though he's gonna get a lot 561 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: less money than he was getting, and I think even 562 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: my my guests, when we see these offers, it's gonna 563 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,959 Speaker 1: be a lot less than people are expecting. All right, 564 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: there are three notable quarterbacks still on the market, and uh, Mark, 565 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: you tell me which one's most likely to sign and 566 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: which one is the least likely to sign a deal. 567 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick you may have heard of him, who, by 568 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: the way, just held a workout in Houston during his 569 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: a position. Uh in a case of collusion, NFL collusion 570 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: against him. I feel like that could hurt his case 571 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: to get a job. But we'll see Jay Cutler and 572 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: Gina Smith most likely at least likely, most likely Geno Smith, 573 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: um to the discredit of the team that chooses to 574 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: do so, and uh, least likely I mean savage, bro, 575 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: That's how I operated right pretty well on his one 576 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: start last year. I give me a break. That's not true, 577 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: Um it is. That's fine. I would say this. I 578 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick wants to keep playing. Jay Cutler I think 579 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: does not so Jake Cutler. How do you pick a 580 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: least likely? I almost think like Jay Cutler at least 581 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: likely because he will retire if he were not choosing 582 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: to retire. Colin Kaepernick least like his Cutler is not 583 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: getting a starting job the Bills or somebody. Let's hope 584 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: not and I think Cutler is done. That would be 585 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: my strong Kaepernick, though, I think the team's teams proved 586 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: last year, for it wasn't every one of them. It's 587 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: not that it's just that he could not find work 588 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: lass He's not about to find it again. I don't 589 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: think I think we're all on the same page at 590 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: Kaepernick deserves a job somewhere, but this collusion case it 591 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: cannot help his cause. And he's in the middle of it. 592 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: And it's just hard to imagine a team and an owner, 593 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: uh jumping into the frame and be like, hey, come 594 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: onto my team because there's a lot of politics at play. 595 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,959 Speaker 1: It always has been the case with the situation, and 596 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: be then be better, be bigger than this situation. In 597 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: the NFL, it's it almost felt like Kaepernick didn't get 598 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: a job in part because they were worried about bad publicity. Well, 599 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: signing Colin Kaepernick would be great publicity in my mind, 600 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: it would It would help end or at least start 601 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: to end a chapter that has not reflected well ultimately 602 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: on the NFL. And he he absolutely deserves to be 603 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: in the league as as a backup in Miami, Baltimore, Jacksonville. 604 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: I don't know which which team could give him a shot. 605 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: I I still think we should mention it because I 606 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: don't think we should give up hope that his career 607 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: is over at thirty. Maybe this case has to end, 608 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: but to me, he should still have a back into 609 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: the other way, and I think it will should have 610 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: last year, I mean the Ravens, and the Ravens backed 611 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: off deciding to do it, and there and and when 612 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 1: you and the more you learn about that, it was 613 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 1: super clear that it had to do with people outside 614 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: the organization saying we won't support you with sponsors, everything, 615 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: and it is it's a very bad look. And that's 616 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: why what you're saying, Greg makes sense. Yes, that it 617 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: would be good pr for a large portion of the 618 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 1: country and and and media outlets, but behind the scenes, 619 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: that team is going to have to deal with some things. 620 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 1: And that's just the sad reality of the situation. Uh. 621 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: There will gonna be other owners that would be upset, 622 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: advertiser sponsors, You run into issues and then it goes 623 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: back to what you were saying west all last year. Uh, 624 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,959 Speaker 1: does his playing ability at this point? Is it enough 625 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: to outweigh all the negatives that would come with signing him? 626 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: And stresses why playing ability? What is his asking price? 627 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: How is he going to be in the locker room? 628 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: Does he know the offense? Is he a fit for 629 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 1: the offense. There's a lot of question that go into it. 630 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: It's not just about being blackballed. H Okay wide receivers 631 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 1: West Eric Decker, Terrell Prior, and Jordan Matthews, three uh 632 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: quality guys. Which guy would you most want on your team? 633 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: By far? Terrell Prior? Wow? By far? To me, he's 634 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: in two tiers higher than those guys. Gave some of 635 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: the top cornerbacks in the league fits in two thousand 636 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: and sixteen toward ligaments in his foot in week two 637 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: of two thousand seventeen, and of course it was not 638 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,399 Speaker 1: the same player while while trying to play through torn 639 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: ligaments in his foot. So to me, I throw out 640 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen. I feel not enough was made of that, 641 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: and I don't think I don't think it was like 642 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 1: public knowledge. Charley Castley noted they were trying to use 643 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 1: him all over the place, use him inside where he 644 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: just didn't look that comfortable and he might not be that. Yeah, 645 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: he's a former quarterback, not that versatile a wide receiver. 646 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: He had a coach in Cleveland and Hugh Jackson that 647 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 1: seemed to know how to maximize well. I mean, it's 648 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,839 Speaker 1: surprising to find out that Hugh Jackson could do something 649 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: that Jake Ruden can't after what happened last year with 650 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,959 Speaker 1: a lot of other players in the Browns. But Terrell 651 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: Pryor was dominant in games for in a series of 652 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 1: games two seasons ago, going up against number one corners 653 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,879 Speaker 1: and his body type is just impossible to guard. One 654 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: of the best athletes in the league. Visited the Seahawks 655 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: and the Jets. Initially, it was reported that the Browns 656 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: and the Rams might have been interested from Mike Silver, 657 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: but clearly he I think his best bet would be 658 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: going to the Browns, even though he might be their 659 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: fourth receiver and just hoping. You know, you got Josh 660 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: Gordon and Corey Coleman in front of you, and you 661 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 1: might have to take two million dollars on a one 662 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,959 Speaker 1: year contract, but wouldn't there be another team out there 663 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: that would pay him that money? Then you can go 664 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: to a team with an established not getting the offers 665 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: he wants. I don't know what he wants, but the 666 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: Seahawks and the Jets aren't offering it, or else he 667 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 1: would have signed it. I think Jordan Matthews is being 668 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: under valued in this market just because you you know 669 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 1: what you're getting with him. He hadn't know you had 670 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 1: an injury plague season on a terrible lingering issue. You 671 00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,879 Speaker 1: had an injury plaque season. And if it's all about 672 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: the injury, then that's that's don't getting with a guy 673 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: who's got a lingering knee issue. He had yards in 674 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 1: his first three years and two hundred fifties something catches. 675 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 1: That's more than basically every wide receiver free agent that 676 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: signed for huge money. And he's a slot receiver. We 677 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: don't get a lot of money. But he should be 678 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 1: able to help a team out there, maybe like the Colts. 679 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 1: Colts really need some wide receivers. And I know that 680 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 1: Decker was a disappointment last year, but he's still just 681 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 1: thirty one and he was coming off two major surgeries. 682 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: I would not be surprised if he signed with the 683 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,320 Speaker 1: team that had a good offense that he was better 684 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 1: this year. Uh A full year healthier, uh from last season. 685 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: But I know he wasn't good. But if be a 686 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 1: shocked if he wasn't playing at all this season. No, 687 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,399 Speaker 1: I mean it's possible he had major, major surgeries. It's 688 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: possible he left that that ability on the operating table. 689 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 1: What's happened to other players? Had a huge touchdown catch 690 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: in that playoff win against the Chief. He visited the Raiders, 691 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 1: so that would fit in with their kind of graybeards philosophy. 692 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: Vaders are taking a lot of your potential signings of 693 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 1: as GM of the l A graybeards. I will be 694 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 1: rolling out my two thousand eighteen Graybeards roster in a 695 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. So these guys, a lot of these 696 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 1: guys could end up are several of them could end 697 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 1: up on my team. Uh. And what a great a 698 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: bunch of grinders they are. It's a little grizzle. It's 699 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,879 Speaker 1: a little grizzle the features Bruden wants to make them 700 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: his grinders running back. Here's a nice guy, would build 701 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: my whole team around. In terms of the media campaign, 702 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,919 Speaker 1: he'd be on the Media Guide. I'd have him doing 703 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 1: the late night talk shows. I'd have him on Craig 704 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 1: Kilborn's Killboards Love a show like four late show hosts Ago. 705 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson does not have a job. He was initially 706 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,359 Speaker 1: on your top one on one. Where was it? He's 707 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 1: still he still is sitting there somewhere. He's in the seventies. 708 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 1: I believe he is seventy six. Adrian Peterson looking for 709 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 1: Wark Greg is you gotta get it. I don't know 710 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,320 Speaker 1: if he's the guy to build your marketing campaign around, 711 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: you know, considering some some my people tell me that 712 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,319 Speaker 1: forgives It's true. At this point, I think people have 713 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 1: forgiven him. That's totally fair. He's a first ballot Hall 714 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: of Famer. He's not a versatile guy, not gonna help 715 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: you on third A supportive guy like that, just joking. 716 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 1: It's a fair class by the people on Twitter. I 717 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,439 Speaker 1: think you should at Dan Hans and Uh with your questions. 718 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 1: Something you joke about. It was like, well that's a 719 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,439 Speaker 1: good point. I know West disagrees, but I'd rather sign 720 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 1: Frank Gore right now. He went. He had a visit 721 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 1: with the Lions. But I think he's a that's pure 722 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 1: and sandy. He's a leader. He's a leader, and he's 723 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 1: a better Gary Blunt backfield with a mere abdulla nursing. Now, 724 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 1: I think Blunt knocked him out of contention. I watched 725 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 1: the Bucks game last year, Cardinals Bucks game or Cardinals 726 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 1: forty Niners, and tell me Adrian Peterson can't play, and 727 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,359 Speaker 1: I'll say you have no eye for football. He looked 728 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 1: great in that in that game, the first game when 729 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,760 Speaker 1: the Arizona, no doubt. My question would be more about 730 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: if you're trying to add him and you have to 731 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 1: tell him you're not our lead back, you're one of us. 732 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 1: The problem number of running backs. How is he gonna 733 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,839 Speaker 1: handle that? He did not handle it well in New Orleans. Well, 734 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,720 Speaker 1: he's a bit like Colin Kaepernick and that his skill 735 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,800 Speaker 1: set at this point only fits a limited number of teams. 736 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 1: And to your theory West that you've brought up before, 737 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 1: these guys that are one dimensional. When Adrian Peterson's on 738 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 1: the field, you know what's coming. Didn't work with the Saints, right, 739 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 1: It's it's a bit problematic strategy wise if you have 740 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 1: him just as your early down back. I agree, that's 741 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 1: a bit of a tell about what's coming. So he's 742 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,320 Speaker 1: got to play a lot of snaps in order to 743 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 1: be effective, which is how the Cardinals used him last year. 744 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 1: He kind of out of desperate desperateness is when you 745 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 1: use him. He he's a guy. Wouldn't be shocked if 746 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 1: he doesn't wind up getting a job. I wouldn't be 747 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: shocked either way, but it wouldn't be surprised. Maybe if 748 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 1: you're into retirement. If he's going into Canton with Joe 749 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,839 Speaker 1: Thomas in that same class, well, I think you would 750 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 1: see him again in October and November when injury strike 751 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 1: and it's like, we need a guy to just tote 752 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,080 Speaker 1: the ball twenty times a game. We're taking Peterson to 753 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,880 Speaker 1: Marco Murray. We'll see not great tape last year, but 754 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: was very good in two thousand. I need him to 755 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 1: wind up and made East was the NFC. It was 756 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 1: the NFC East because that's not where it looks like. 757 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 1: It doesn't look like to the Dolphins, and I was like, oh, 758 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 1: Mark might get those sandwiches. I'll be giving them and 759 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: mixed it up. Darren Sprawls also out there. Uh, speedy 760 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 1: but old. He feels like he'll be on the graveyards 761 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,800 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks coming off a major injury. Yes, Uh, 762 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 1: Marty Bennett tight end. The most prominent tight end out 763 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 1: there right now. Him and Jason Morrow, those are the 764 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,799 Speaker 1: two most prominent free agent tight ends in my mind. 765 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: He told Rich Eyes and Wednesday Martin Martell has Bennett 766 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 1: that he's unsure if he's going to play, and when 767 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: Eisen brought up the possibility of skipping the early parts 768 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,319 Speaker 1: of training camp, martell Has Bennett was all about that. 769 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 1: He said, I could play, but about seven different coordinators. 770 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 1: I don't need to learn offense. Wasn't Marty Bennett last 771 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 1: like July going viral because he was sleeping in the 772 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 1: Packers locker room before training camp started. I feel like 773 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 1: maybe he's maybe the fire is not there anymore. It's 774 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 1: it's possible he's an animator now. Uh smells like a 775 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:14,840 Speaker 1: guy that might sign with the Patriots late. For that 776 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 1: would be highly tedious and I could see a turn 777 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 1: to the pager. I need to find out what this 778 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 1: title that he called himself as animator. This is a 779 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:26,319 Speaker 1: great title. Isn't he the Black Unicorn? He is the 780 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:31,319 Speaker 1: creative director of awesomeness, That's what he has self dubbed him. 781 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 1: On the defensive side of the ball, Navarro Bowman is 782 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 1: out there. Uh, not really a cover linebacker at this stage. 783 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 1: He's in his thirties, never quite the same guy after 784 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 1: that terrible knee injury. Oakland moved on, will someone else 785 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:52,839 Speaker 1: get into the Navarro Bowman business? Someone throughout his name 786 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 1: in Dallas where he would where he would make some stump. 787 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 1: It makes some sense. Anthony Hitchins left. Uh, they weren't 788 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 1: really sure what they got out of Jalen Smith last year. 789 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 1: Shan Lee's an injury play guy, but Bowman is not 790 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,800 Speaker 1: kind of an every down snap linebacker at this stage. 791 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,799 Speaker 1: When some team gets desperate and signs Adrian Peterson for 792 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 1: early downs, another team can sign Navarro Bowman is the 793 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,280 Speaker 1: bizarro Adrian Peterson on defense? Like that plays early downs? 794 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:21,440 Speaker 1: All you do is tackle Peterson Like that? M Like, 795 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 1: that's why's the season? That seems like a really narrowing 796 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 1: down specialist rollsign. What if you make Bowman you're running 797 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:34,359 Speaker 1: back in Peterson, You're early down linebacker, really mixing it up? 798 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,360 Speaker 1: You want to throw teams off their game? Do we 799 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,319 Speaker 1: target this guy? Do we stay away from I think 800 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 1: Evan Silva would like that kind of forward out of 801 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 1: the box thinking. Sashi already had that idea, uh A 802 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 1: little safety talk. Kenny Vekaro, Eric Reid, Trey Boston, Taylon 803 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,440 Speaker 1: Branch all out of work. Eric Reid, who also kneel 804 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,840 Speaker 1: during the national anthem next to his old teammate Colin Kaepernick. 805 00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:01,560 Speaker 1: There has been speculation that his fight for social justice 806 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,959 Speaker 1: or his displays have not helped him find work. So 807 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 1: that's something to keep in mind. There your thoughts, gentlemen, 808 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 1: not a lot of them. If he doesn't well. Morgan 809 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,360 Speaker 1: Burnett signed with the Steelers on Tuesday. He was ranked 810 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: in our top thirty, pretty much right next to Kenny 811 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,439 Speaker 1: Vacaro and Eric Read. So if if Vaccaro and Read, 812 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,839 Speaker 1: especially if Reid doesn't get signed in the next week 813 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,319 Speaker 1: or two, then I think, again the NFL is something 814 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 1: on their hands that doesn't look great. But at this 815 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 1: point I wouldn't rise any alarms. For instance, Vacaro hasn't 816 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,839 Speaker 1: gotten signed. I would think that Reid played really well 817 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,920 Speaker 1: at the end of last season and they started using 818 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,399 Speaker 1: him like multiple concussions to Read's injury history is about 819 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,239 Speaker 1: as big a red flag as you could possibly have. 820 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,400 Speaker 1: He's had tons of concussions, played very well at the 821 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 1: end of last year, and usually that I'll get you 822 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,319 Speaker 1: signed going into the next year. All right, So there 823 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:53,759 Speaker 1: you go. Those are the big names out there, and 824 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:58,319 Speaker 1: we'll see who from that list um ends up on 825 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 1: the grave yards? Whom? Who? Which players? Whom? Or who whom? From? Now? 826 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,839 Speaker 1: Who from that list? I believe that's a who who 827 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,319 Speaker 1: still uses whom in copy? Nobody I use whom when 828 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,400 Speaker 1: it's called for, West does occasionally use it? All right. 829 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 1: A reminder the A t N podcast will not broadcast 830 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:24,359 Speaker 1: on Friday, will be on airplanes. Uh Mark, maybe Mark 831 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:25,840 Speaker 1: will be a couple of drinks in on the plane, 832 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 1: not the m O this time. Why alone am I 833 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:33,919 Speaker 1: putting that? Mark? Put it down? Come on, man, I'll 834 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,799 Speaker 1: let you play your little game. But that's absurd. I 835 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 1: know who would be drinks responsibly. It's illegal. 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