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Speaker 2: What is up Straight Firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight

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Speaker 2: Fire for Thursday, August third. Amazing Interview today. If you

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Speaker 2: like football, it is great content for gambling. A couple

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Speaker 2: things I honestly not even on my radar heading into

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Speaker 2: this NFL season. You will learn a lot. Adam turn off.

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Speaker 2: Very smart man. I think you'll like the podcast. Before

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Speaker 2: we get to Adam, just two quick notes. Number one,

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Speaker 2: your boy has finally secured Taylor Swift tickets. I will

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Speaker 2: be there at so far, very very fired up to

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Speaker 2: see Taylor Swift. I haven't been to a concert of

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Speaker 2: this magnitude. I'm embarrassed to say that. The first big,

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Speaker 2: big concert I went to, and again I was a

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Speaker 2: little guy. It was cool at the time. They were

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Speaker 2: popping off. I saw Milli Vanilli. Yes, and like six

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Speaker 2: months later they got popped for lip syncing or whatever

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Speaker 2: it was. But at the time it was like the

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Speaker 2: coolest thing ever. And I remember I was about to

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Speaker 2: start dating this girl and I went to an actual

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Speaker 2: payphone at the concert and called her to be like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, this wasn't when you had like cell phones okay,

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Speaker 2: sorry young people. And I called her to like kind

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Speaker 2: of flex. I was like, yeah, yeah, you want me

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Speaker 2: to get your T shirt or you know whatever, and

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Speaker 2: I'll never forget. Like no, even it was a cool concert.

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Speaker 2: I mean again, I was a young kid. I didn't

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Speaker 2: really know better. But let the good times roll. Taylor

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Speaker 2: Swift in other news, in actual sports news, how about

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Speaker 2: Leonel Messi. You guys know, I'm a soccer guy. I

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Speaker 2: play in some dad tournaments. I am minority owner of

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Speaker 2: a soccer team in Mexico in the top league. I

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Speaker 2: obviously World Cup is my favorite sporting event.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's every four years, so it's better than

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Speaker 2: March Manness, better than anything I love soccer I have.

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Speaker 2: I'll watch MLS if it's on, I'll check it out,

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Speaker 2: it on my phone five o'clock Messi, five o'clock Pacific.

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Speaker 2: So yesterday I turn on the game, and of course

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Speaker 2: it's gonna start because Messi is usually dominating these games early.

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Speaker 2: And you know again, Messi's scores like seven minutes in.

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Speaker 2: I was able to see it, and just watching him

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Speaker 2: liked watching Patrick Mahomes. I love watching Mahomes Jeff Curry,

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Speaker 2: but Messi's just a different beast. I'm just gonna remind you, guys,

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Speaker 2: Miami was the worst team in the league. Messi comes

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Speaker 2: in and they have now rattled off I believe this

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Speaker 2: now has five and three games, and Miami could win

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Speaker 2: the Lega's Cup, which is a battle between MLS and

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Speaker 2: LEGA MX teams. Yes, sadly, Nikock said the team I'm

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Speaker 2: a minority owner of, they got balanced. They didn't even

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Speaker 2: get out of the group stage. That's why I was

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Speaker 2: and watching the COXA live for the first time. And

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Speaker 2: I mean, listen, this is a good tournament and for

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Speaker 2: Messi to be dominating it like of this magnitude and

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Speaker 2: taking a last place team, there's no comparison in NFL sports.

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Speaker 2: To reminder, Trevor Lawrence coming out of Clemson, number one pick.

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Speaker 2: Everybody loves them, best promising recruits since, best promising prospects

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Speaker 2: since what Andrew Luck and they were picking first again

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Speaker 2: the next year. You know, there is the Brady going

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Speaker 2: really isn't anything in the NBA. I can't It would

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Speaker 2: some people want to bring up Lebron and the Lakers,

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Speaker 2: five on five, you're a superstar like Lebron. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's a lot easier to win than an eleven or

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Speaker 2: something to marvel aze. All Right, without further ado, let's

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Speaker 2: get to our guest, Adam Churnoff of Right Angle Sports.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's welcome into straight Fire, a guy who's

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Speaker 2: the gosh, can I say, one of the five biggest

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Speaker 2: but that's just the reality. He creates a massive audience

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Speaker 2: wherever he goes. We bring him on the podcast. I

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's a reach, but I'm gonna push it back

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Speaker 1: to you. And if you're gonna, if you're gonna put

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Speaker 1: of non athletes in US sports media, do you have

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Speaker 2: Come on, give me a break. I would like to

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Speaker 2: I think you guys remember Adam. He was doing a

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Speaker 2: and then of course everybody gets involved. I can admit

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Speaker 2: I talked to Fox. I was like, we got to

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Speaker 2: get Adam. Fox made a run at you. We don't

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Speaker 2: need to go there. But you have basically been fetid.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I could say that, but everybody

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Speaker 2: wants to bring you into the fold. And you picked

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Speaker 2: Right Angle Sports. What was it like maybe six months ago?

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Speaker 2: Eight months ago?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, back in late November of twenty twenty two. I

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Speaker 2: And so first of all, talk about how that was

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Speaker 2: because you know, people are probably googling Right Angle Sports.

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Speaker 2: A lot of gamblers know them. They provide a picked service,

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Speaker 2: but a lot of people, including myself, hesitant to pay

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Speaker 2: doesn't like me that much. A lot of guys, Preston

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Speaker 2: Johnson's been on. We've talked a lot about paying for picks.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to start there, but I want to

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Speaker 2: start with Right Angle. What made you think that would

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Speaker 1: The way I described it was for the majority of

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Speaker 1: Because Right Angle Sports is a team of professional betters.

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Speaker 1: They've been among the most successful betters behind the scenes

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Speaker 1: privately since the late nineteen nineties, ads built out an

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Speaker 1: when it comes to opportunities, there was a chance to

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Speaker 1: it was an opportunity to see what that was like,

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Speaker 2: Now, again, a lot of people don't know the behind

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Speaker 2: the scenes. It's probably a little inside baseball, but what

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Speaker 1: The best their expertise and their ability to make decisions

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Speaker 1: and the way I would sort of break it down

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Speaker 1: The subscriptions that we have now are more accessible than

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Speaker 1: they have been in the past. Definitely. With me coming on,

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Speaker 1: And the big thing to take away is even if

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Speaker 1: fence about it, like you said, there's there's something different

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Speaker 1: with Right Angle Sports in the sense that when you

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Speaker 1: get the bet, the lines are going to move market wide.

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Speaker 1: The influence from these guys winning for twenty plus years

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Speaker 1: is respected by every sports book, and so when we

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Speaker 1: And so that makes you a favorite to win every

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Speaker 2: Okay, so another team. We'll come back to the Jets

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Speaker 2: is a little stunning. Let me go to the Bills

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Speaker 2: for a sec because they were another team, Like, maybe

433
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Speaker 2: we're over or I'm overreacting to that Bengals loss. This

434
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Speaker 2: is a team that was top three in the league

435
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Speaker 2: for most of the season. I think they led in

436
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Speaker 2: point differential for a lot of the season. That game

437
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Speaker 2: against the Bengals with the Hamlin situation seemed to derail everything.

438
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Speaker 2: And I don't know if it was you that talked

439
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Speaker 2: about it, but the disruption late in the season kind

440
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Speaker 2: of messed things up. We all shouldn't jump off the Bills.

441
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Speaker 2: They were literally dominant. I don't know, though the Jets

442
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 2: got better in the division. I think the Bills safeties

443
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 2: are both like a little aging. They lose their best

444
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 2: tackler in the middle. Linebacker, offensive line still has questions.

445
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Speaker 2: I don't know, what do you. Josh Allen led the

446
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 2: league in red zone picks. Where are you on the Bills?

447
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Speaker 1: Did you see the Isaiah McKenzie stuff after the Bengals

448
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Speaker 1: game when he did that. The Bills have that like

449
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,200
Speaker 1: internal podcast that they did where he went on, did

450
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 1: you see those comments? No? So he obviously wide receiver

451
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Speaker 1: for the Bills. Last year, he went on this like

452
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Speaker 1: five minute rant about how the Bills basically only had

453
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Speaker 1: one pitch for their offense and it was like everything

454
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Speaker 1: was downfield. When we needed to run the football, we couldn't.

455
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Speaker 1: We had nothing underneath. And then there was the snow

456
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Speaker 1: game against Cincinnati. It didn't work, and they're like, we

457
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Speaker 1: didn't even try to do something different, And that kind

458
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Speaker 1: of painted the Bills late season collapse in a very

459
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Speaker 1: good way, because really all it was, when you look

460
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Speaker 1: back at it, it was Josh Allen with an elbow injury,

461
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Speaker 1: throwing it deep down field nearly every single time, the

462
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Speaker 1: same guys on the field. There was no change up,

463
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Speaker 1: and Ken Dorsey this offseason has made a clear effort

464
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Speaker 1: to change that. They've added a couple tight ends. They

465
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Speaker 1: took Kinkaid in the draft, and he's like, we got

466
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Speaker 1: to use more two tight end sets, we got to

467
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Speaker 1: use more three tight end sets. We need to find

468
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Speaker 1: some resemblance of a ground game. And it reminds me

469
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Speaker 1: a lot of what the Chiefs did after their twenty

470
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Speaker 1: twenty season, where they had to evolve into this heavyer

471
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Speaker 1: personnel focused team and last year to the point that

472
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Speaker 1: they led the league in usage of three tight end sets.

473
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Speaker 1: Kansas City did, and so the Bills led the league

474
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Speaker 1: in three wide receiver sets. They're now shifting and so

475
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Speaker 1: it's like a copy of Kansas City the last couple

476
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Speaker 1: of years. And if the Bills can do it and

477
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Speaker 1: implement it, I think it could be the best Bills

478
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Speaker 1: offense we've seen with Josh Allen this year if they

479
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Speaker 1: get it right. So it's a big year to prevent

480
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Speaker 1: what happened last year happening again.

481
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Speaker 2: So first of all, this is done. This is why

482
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Speaker 2: bring you up? Like led the league in three tight

483
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Speaker 2: end sets. I honestly did Kansas City. It's crazy, isn't

484
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Speaker 2: that I didn't know teams like I know the two

485
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Speaker 2: tight end sets. You want to go heavy? What's the

486
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Speaker 2: three tight end sets? Is that like a brand new thing?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? So it wasn't a massive number of snaps in

488
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Speaker 1: the season. Overall, they ran a ton from two tight

489
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Speaker 1: end sets as well. They were top three in that

490
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Speaker 1: regard too. But I think the difference here is we

491
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Speaker 1: think about Kansas City and Mahomes and it's this aggressive

492
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Speaker 1: downfield passing wide receivers all over the place. Really what

493
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Speaker 1: it was when you look back, more than any other

494
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Speaker 1: team in the league, they had those two or three

495
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Speaker 1: tight end sets collectively with both packages combined. And so

496
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Speaker 1: what that does league wide when you look at quarterbacks

497
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Speaker 1: throughout the entire NFL, when they have two or three

498
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Speaker 1: tight end sets on the field, their success rate per

499
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Speaker 1: play goes up, their yards per attempt goes up, and

500
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Speaker 1: their completion percentage goes up. They have more time to throw,

501
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Speaker 1: their receivers have better matchups usually they have or options.

502
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Speaker 1: It's a very tough thing to defend. And so teams

503
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Speaker 1: are really making that shift. Kansas City really did it first,

504
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 1: and now like teams like Buffalo or playing ketchup, other

505
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 1: teams around the league playing Ketchup two. And so that's

506
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Speaker 1: kind of where the offensive formational shifts are going league wide,

507
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: and there's a huge emphasis for Buffalo to do that.

508
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Speaker 2: So I read a lot of NFL I listen to

509
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 2: some podcasts I watch TV. I've never heard anyone mention

510
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 2: this three tight end trend. Now, are there any other

511
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Speaker 2: teams we should look out look for doing this besides

512
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Speaker 2: the Bills and Chiefs.

513
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Speaker 1: In the AFC specifically, it's the rates are increasing sort

514
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Speaker 1: of conference wide. I think a team like Minnesota could

515
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Speaker 1: really really benefit it from it. In the NFC, you

516
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Speaker 1: think about what they usually look like, three wide receivers

517
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Speaker 1: across the field. Kirk Cousins in the shotgun, I mean,

518
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 1: he's kind of a sitting duck in the pocket, a

519
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 1: lot of snaps where he makes really bad decisions, and

520
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Speaker 1: so I think that's a team that could really benefit

521
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Speaker 1: from it. Same thing in that division, Detroit Lions a

522
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Speaker 1: lot of three wide receiver usage a year ago with

523
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Speaker 1: Jared Goff. Teams have now seen it if they can

524
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Speaker 1: get towards that. Ben Johnson a heck of a play caller,

525
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Speaker 1: I think he could benefit from it quite a bit too.

526
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Speaker 1: But keep an eye for it this season, especially in

527
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Speaker 1: like the first half of the year, going to see

528
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Speaker 1: a lot more teams going to those two and three

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Speaker 1: tight end looks interesting.

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Speaker 2: Do do you think that leads to more unders or overs?

531
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Speaker 2: Success and everything? On offense or is it more of

532
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 2: a ball control attack with you know, slowing things down,

533
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Speaker 2: big big dudes on the field.

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Speaker 1: Well, so that's more to me to do with the

535
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Speaker 1: defensive shifts. We just kind of talked about the offensive shift,

536
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Speaker 1: but you bring up a good point with does it

537
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Speaker 1: lead to more unders? Well, last year we saw a

538
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Speaker 1: massive increase in usage of Cover two, so two deep

539
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 1: safeties and that too deep shell, as well as Cover four.

540
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Speaker 1: And if you look over the last four years in

541
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Speaker 1: the NFL, the usage of those formations is up nearly

542
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Speaker 1: twenty percent and blitz rate is down seven percent. And

543
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Speaker 1: so we're moving into this now sort of modern NFL

544
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Speaker 1: in the twenty twenties here where defenses are playing extremely

545
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Speaker 1: conservative because we're seeing offenses like we were talking about

546
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Speaker 1: those three wide receiver sets that were so good four

547
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: or five six years ago, teams were just getting burned

548
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 1: deep with the pass. Last year we saw an average

549
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: total in NFL games right around forty four and a

550
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: half points. And so that's a reflection of how conservative

551
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: defenses are playing, which in turn is kind of causing

552
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: this offensive shift to wear. Okay, if all these defenses

553
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 1: are playing off it's cover two, cover four five defensive

554
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 1: backs on the field. Well, then you have, like the

555
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 1: Bills get Dalton Kincaid. You put a defensive back on Kinkaid.

556
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 1: It's a matchup advantage for the Bills. And think about

557
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Speaker 1: what the Chiefs have been doing with Kelsey and other

558
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: guys at tight end. They're creating those matchup advantages. And

559
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: so because of how defenses are playing and the personnel

560
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 1: shifts there, it kind of goes hand in hand with

561
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Speaker 1: the offense. So does it lead to more unders on

562
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: offense specifically? Not entirely, but when you combine it with

563
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Speaker 1: the defense, we're seeing average totals of forty four and

564
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: a half points. We go back four years, it was

565
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,239
Speaker 1: nearly fifty, and so the league is trending down in

566
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Speaker 1: that regard.

567
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Speaker 2: In the base way, I see, Wow, that's good stuff

568
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 2: because if memory serves, Russell Wilson was rolling along and

569
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Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, the too high really slowed

570
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 2: him down. He couldn't do the deep lobs to lock

571
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 2: it and metcalf they took it away and he didn't

572
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 2: really have an off speed pitch. Wow. I'm just trying

573
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Speaker 2: to think with that exactly. Yeah, And do you think Russ.

574
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 2: Peyton will be able to solve that.

575
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Speaker 1: With Russ, I think that offense is going to look

576
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: so much better. I always loved Peyton just from like

577
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Speaker 1: the betting side. He was one of the few guys,

578
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Speaker 1: I say, growing up when I was doing this seven, eight, nine,

579
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,239
Speaker 1: ten years ago, younger Adam like you could trust him

580
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: every week to do what you would expect a wise

581
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: play caller to do based on defensive advantages that they

582
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Speaker 1: would have over the defense. So like, for example, if

583
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Speaker 1: you thought that the Saints with Breeze and Peyton would

584
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: have a really good advantage against an opposing secondary, you

585
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: could bet on them willing to increase their pass rate

586
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: to attack that secondary and be very confident that Peyton

587
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: would execute that. There's a lot of offensive coordinators and

588
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: play callers in the league that you can look at

589
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: what the advantages might be when you're betting and have

590
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: them do something completely else. It's hard to trust a

591
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: lot of guys, but Peyton was a guy you could

592
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: really trust. And I think he's going to get a

593
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: ton out of Jerry Judy and turn him into kind

594
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: of Michael Thomas number two like he did with the Saints.

595
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: Now for the Broncos. I think Russ is going to

596
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: get the ball out of his hand way quicker than

597
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: he did a year ago. He was holding it for

598
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: nearly three seconds a snap, and it's just going to

599
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: be a much more efficient team. So definitely, I think

600
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: Peyton and the Broncos can look a lot better on offense.

601
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Speaker 2: Switching to the NFC, I think it was you early

602
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: last year who put me on the Giants. You were like, boy,

603
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 2: the addition of Wink Martindale, the addition of Dayble, like

604
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 2: nobody got better in those departments in coaching and the

605
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 2: Giants Arrow was pointing up. I went and bet the

606
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 2: Giants over. I hyped him on the Herd. I look

607
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 2: like a genius. I've been well thanks to you. Mostly.

608
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 2: I think it was you. You could correct me if I'm wrong,

609
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 2: But I'm looking at the coaching moves this year and

610
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Speaker 2: I don't know other than stik In and Indy, if

611
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 2: anyone's gonna have that sizeable impact. Some people are trying

612
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 2: to say Vic Fongio in Miami, but I don't know,

613
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 2: what do you think any massive coaching swings this offseason?

614
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Speaker 1: Okay, so I would have one, said Fangio. If the

615
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: Ramsey injury hadn't occurred. I think that slows down what

616
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Speaker 1: he can do a lot, But that was that was

617
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: looking like an all time move. Do you think Stiking

618
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: can make that big of a difference like is? I don't.

619
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Speaker 1: I have trouble believing him and Richardson just works. Are

620
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: you on board with that?

621
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Speaker 2: Well, it sounds like he's taking some first team snaps already,

622
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 2: which is weird, but it seems like he's gonna have

623
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 2: that Josh Allen Early. I struggle on the dump offs

624
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 2: the short stuff, sure, but if a play unravels, I'm

625
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: getting loose and look out and then I can hit

626
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 2: you with the bombs. But I don't know if the

627
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 2: receivers are great enough there to burn teams deep. But

628
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 2: I feel like Stichen's very good offensively.

629
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Speaker 1: No, okay, if he can have any sort of impact

630
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: like you had on Hurts. I think back to that

631
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: Philly Tampa playoff game. I had a tweet about Hurts

632
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: and just got roasted for it because people wanted Minshew

633
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: over Hurts. And then he's yeah, and then he's nearly

634
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,719
Speaker 1: the MVP last year. So okay, that the most Stiking

635
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: can do.

636
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Speaker 2: Is that how much of that was Stiching improving year

637
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 2: over year, but how much of that was the addition

638
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 2: of AJ Brown.

639
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: I think it's a combination of both, certainly, But I

640
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: guess we like I'm trying to think to Indian I'm like, Okay,

641
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: that can be a massive leap. But like you said,

642
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: so you bring in AJ Brown, you have the best

643
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: offensive line in football. You have a defensive line that

644
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: just kills other teams. It was a good situation for

645
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: the Eagles. I don't know if that's the case in Indy,

646
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: but so I'm kind of stuck on Stichen. One other

647
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Speaker 1: thing I'll say on the coaching side to point out

648
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: Brian Flores went to Minnesota and he's the defensive coordinator.

649
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: It won't necessarily be like a massive improvement, but in

650
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: terms of just being different. Last year at Donnatel was

651
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator for the Vikings, and he gave the

652
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: same look every snap, super soft, played off coverage like

653
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: everything we just talked about, the cover two, cover flour looks.

654
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: Brian Flores couldn't be more different. He's probably the most

655
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: aggressive defensive coordinator. He wants blitz heavy boxes, his guys

656
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: in the secondary and man coverage. I think the Vikings

657
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,239
Speaker 1: are going to have an awful defense, Yeah, but what

658
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: it's going to lead to is just ridiculously high scoring Minnesota.

659
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 2: Vikings interesting, So that's important. I'm trying to think of

660
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 2: the defensive backs of like, there's nobody good there, right

661
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 2: or nobody Cam Dantler? Is he still there?

662
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: Like all these guys are going to be stuck in

663
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: man coverage. They have a rookie starting, they have a

664
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: first year guy who played fifty snaps last year as

665
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: the number two. Like, it's bad and dire if those

666
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: guys are stuck in man coverage. So that's a big

667
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: scheme switch for sure.

668
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 2: Is there a team that everybody seems to be sleeping

669
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 2: on that maybe they're underestimating or you think the markets

670
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 2: off even if you haven't met it yet.

671
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: I want to say the Falcons because we did bet

672
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: it and we're really high on them. I feel like

673
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: in terms of sleeping on, we've kind of really been

674
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: pumping the media with that. So I think a lot

675
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: of people have latched on to the upside with Atlanta.

676
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 2: But isn't it more Adam? Is it more schedule than anything?

677
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 2: It's not like they have talent. I don't know if

678
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 2: the play caller is great. Offensive line solid but not amazing.

679
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 2: Defense is like, eh, okay, it's just about the schedule

680
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 2: with those guys.

681
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, so we might have a case for sleeping

682
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: on them because so we're on the opposite there.

683
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 2: No, no I like them. I'm with you, but I don't.

684
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 2: I'm just doing because the schedule in the opposing quarterbacks.

685
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: Okay. So speaking for myself personally, I think Arthur Smith

686
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: is a top twelve play caller in the NFL. I'll

687
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: put him in like the ten to thirteen range, not

688
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: from my opinion, but from other major outlets that do

689
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: really good like aggregate rankings for previews. The Falcons offensive

690
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: line is a top ten unit based on those rankings,

691
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: So that's really good. I think the skill pieces are

692
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: quite underrated overall, and so that's maybe now hearing it,

693
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: it's a little bit under the radar. Like you said,

694
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: the schedule. The reason we like them so much is

695
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: in the first eleven weeks, there's only four games where

696
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 1: the Falcons don't play a first time starter or a rookie,

697
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: and those quarterbacks is Trevor Lawrence Kirk Cousins like they

698
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 1: dodge all the great quarterbacks. So strengths of schedules almost

699
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 1: always priced in, and the win totals reflect that. But

700
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: we think this is a schedule that can play way

701
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: easier than it's being projected to be. And so with

702
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: all those things said about the Falcons, which maybe is

703
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: going unnoticed, we think that there may be a little

704
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: bit under the radar.

705
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 2: Okay, well, the Saints play a similar schedule. Do we

706
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 2: not like the Saints better? They have car and established quarterback,

707
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 2: although you know, I know some of the numbers don't

708
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 2: paint him great, and the head coaches I think you

709
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 2: bashed him on the Saints review, but the Saints have

710
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 2: a better roster than the Falcons. Skill position may be close,

711
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 2: I don't know, unless Kamara gets like six games or whatever,

712
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,240
Speaker 2: but why wouldn't the Saints be right there with the Falcons?

713
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: So price is the big thing. Saints are the favorite.

714
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: We thought they're the worst division favorite in all of

715
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: the NFL. A couple of negatives that I would have

716
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 1: for the Saints. Carmichael's the offensive coordinator, and it's kind

717
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: of weird because when Peyton left, Carmichael didn't want the

718
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator job. They have to convince him to stay

719
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,479
Speaker 1: and keep the job, and so he stayed. They didn't

720
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: have a good offense. Everyone effected him to be fired,

721
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: but because he's this long term guy with his massive

722
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: tenure with the team, he got another year. And so

723
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: in the back of my mind, I have this thing where, Okay,

724
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: he didn't want the job to begin with. He wasn't

725
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: good at it. He has very limited play calling experience

726
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: that he's never had success with. Now he's sort of

727
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: the mastermind behind Derek Carr coming into the system with

728
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas coming off multiple years of injuries. Kamara is

729
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: now suspended. We don't know for how long he's going

730
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 1: to miss. The offensive line is taking a big step back,

731
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: and it's so uncertain within the Saints. They had to

732
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: bring John Gruden in during the offseason to install the

733
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: offense for Derek Carr. And so if you have when

734
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: I look at the play caller difference, I was just saying,

735
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: Arthur Smith is the top twelve guy. What's Pete Carmichael

736
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: bottom five. I don't think that's a stretch to say.

737
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: So there's some negatives for the Saints that I see.

738
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 2: Any teams in the afe West can challenge the Chiefs, No,

739
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 2: nobody at all.

740
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: That was the easiest one of the show.

741
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 2: AAFC North. Who somebody's got to be not great in

742
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 2: that division? And it feels like everybody's probably gonna finish

743
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 2: five hundred or better, sorry, nine or eight or better

744
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 2: or in the mix for a playoff spot. But who's

745
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 2: last place in that division?

746
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: Boy, the toughest question that we went from the easiest

747
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: question to the toughest question on the spot. I have

748
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: to say Pittsburgh just because I think it's asking a lot.

749
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: If I had to say a team that is being

750
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: hyped up and sort of maybe overspoken for more than

751
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: any other, it might be the Cleveland Browns. Like maybe

752
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson just isn't going to come back to the

753
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: Watson that we knew from his time in Houston, and

754
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: that's just going to be a struggle with Stefanski. But

755
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: I think that that's less likely the case than the

756
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: Steelers offense with that play calling scheme that they have

757
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 1: is just magically going to work this year. They're already

758
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: talking about directives coming from ownership down to how they're

759
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: supposed to run their offense and trying to stay conservative

760
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: in the first three quarters so they have a chance

761
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: to win in the fourth with their defense. That's just

762
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 1: not what you want to hear in twenty twenty three

763
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: for any team. So I would have to say Pittsburgh

764
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: and Ravens.

765
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 2: I'm curious because it seems like they're slowly, quietly pivoting

766
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 2: from being a defensive team. I felt like, I know,

767
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 2: Lamar is great, but they've never put guys around him.

768
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 2: They seem to address a lot offensively, and then you

769
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 2: look at the defensive depth chart and you're like, ooh,

770
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 2: there's not a ton of talent here.

771
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: Big shifts for Baltimore coming going from the Roman offensive

772
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: scheme to Todd Mounkin, a lot more usage of space.

773
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: All signs point to a lot more tempo. Lamar wants

774
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: to throw for six thousand yards. Do you remember last

775
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: year when he did the press conference, he had the

776
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: bag of popcorn and the milkshake. You remember those photos, So,

777
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 1: I mean we're going from that a year ago to

778
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 1: put it in perspective. Now his instagram is like yours,

779
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: where it's just constantly in the gym working out. So

780
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: I mean, it's such a different mindset and scheme for

781
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: the Ravens this year. Zay Flowers is apparently the best

782
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: wide receiver on that team, the rookie coming in. He

783
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: was working with Lamar in South Florida all summer. You

784
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: have obj around them, so it's the best weapons. Lamar

785
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 1: has never been more focused on throwing the football. That's

786
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: going to look really really different, but it's it's a

787
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 1: really really big change. Maybe it takes time, but there's

788
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,720
Speaker 1: certainly a lot of optimism about the Ravens offense.

789
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 2: We'll wrap up with Week one. I listen, I know

790
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 2: it's still a ways away, but surely you've looked at

791
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 2: some Week one lines and you want to pounce. I

792
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 2: got a buddy selling me on Jason. Divisional dogs in

793
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 2: Week one. It is always something you need to bet,

794
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 2: especially home dogs in the division. You're looking at teams

795
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 2: like I think the culture at home against the Jags Giant.

796
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 2: I believe it's Cowboys, Jets and the Bills. Or is

797
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 2: this just I know that sounds like a trend and

798
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 2: we're supposed to shy away from trends, but go for it.

799
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 1: Sure, Okay, I'll give you. I'll give you one because

800
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: we're both Jets fans have to bet the Bills in

801
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: Week one. I know it's I know it's I know

802
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: it's painful, But there was a group that's competitive with us,

803
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 1: and they bet the Jets right after the lines came out.

804
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: It was about a month ago now, because that was

805
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: right around three, and they bet it, and now it's

806
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: come down. It's kind of right around one right now,

807
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: one and a half, and so they bet it. As

808
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: soon as they bet it, I was like, there's no

809
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: way that this isn't going back the other way. So

810
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 1: you have to bet the Bills at that number for sure.

811
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: There's just so much coming in.

812
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 2: Why do you think they took it? And is this

813
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 2: like a bet that's a group that's respected.

814
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: It is a group that's respected definitely, which is why

815
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: it moved down. And this wasn't even in relation to

816
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 1: like the Rogers move. This was longer after that. When

817
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: you look back at what the Bills season was a

818
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: year ago, there's there's a number of negatives that you

819
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: can take away from that that I really disagree with.

820
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: I think that their their offense, like I said, was

821
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: sort of stuck in that scheme. I think that's going

822
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: to be different. I think Allen was limited for a

823
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: good chunk of it with the elbow injury. I think

824
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: that's going to be different. I think now with McDermott

825
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: going back to calling plays on defense, I think that's

826
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: going to change and make the defense a lot more aggressive,

827
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: which is something the Bills desperately needed. They really I

828
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: think like the upside of the Jets with Rogers coming in,

829
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: because you can say similar things and say the Jets

830
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: were competitive with the Bills twice last year and they

831
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: had nobody on the field right, and they were huge

832
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: underdogs in those games. So like, I get that now

833
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,959
Speaker 1: you had Rogers, Like, surely it's going to be better.

834
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: I just think this is a huge reset for both teams,

835
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 1: and the Jets are going to take time. I think

836
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 1: the Bills start off really really well.

837
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 2: Fun fact, I think I saw the Bills were zero

838
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 2: to five against the spread last year against the Dolphins

839
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 2: and the Jets, and they didn't even face two or

840
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 2: three times. I mean I know that Jet beat them

841
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 2: once and they covered the other game Miami covered in

842
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 2: the playoff game. Miami beat them in Miami and what

843
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 2: was a crazy game, and I forget the other one.

844
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 2: But I think the Dolphins covered that as well. I

845
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,760
Speaker 2: don't think maybe that's they just they just see Josh

846
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,439
Speaker 2: Allen Moore in the division and the coaches from familiarity.

847
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 2: I don't know.

848
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: Well it's it's exactly I say, saw them more. They

849
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: knew what was coming, and the Bills didn't have an

850
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,720
Speaker 1: option to change up. They had no different plan on offense.

851
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: It was the same thing every week. So as the

852
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,240
Speaker 1: season progressed, it just got worse overall.

853
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 2: So Bills is one. I'm sorry, I'm not taking that.

854
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 2: I will not be paid.

855
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 1: That's okay. Do you have one two that stands out?

856
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 2: I like the Steelers a lot at home against Kyle

857
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 2: Shanahan and Rock Purty in Week one, I think it's

858
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 2: is it two.

859
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: And a half? Will No, it's higher now with the

860
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: news the party's going to be starting, so that one

861
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Speaker 1: went up a little bit. So if you're like, give me,

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Speaker 1: you're getting more with the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I listen. I know it's trivial stuff.

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Speaker 2: But TJ. Watt, I think when he played they were

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Speaker 2: eight and two last year. He's just such a game changer.

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Speaker 2: I know they have Trent Williams there, but I look

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Speaker 2: at this Pittsburgh defense and San Francisco has struggled out

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Speaker 2: of the gate if you I think if you look

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Speaker 2: at the is it the last three years where they

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Speaker 2: just haven't been super crisp and the last one last

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Speaker 2: year Week one was against the Bears and I think

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Speaker 2: a monsoon and it was trying.

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Speaker 1: That was an ugly game for sure. No, And I

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Speaker 1: like the Steelers as a as a dog throughout the

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Speaker 1: year because just that style that they're saying they're going

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Speaker 1: to play and commit to, I think is conducive to

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Speaker 1: liking them when they're getting points, especially more in the

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Speaker 1: field goal.

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Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, speaking of Steelers, someone and

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Speaker 2: some guy you know, Listen, you got a lot of

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Speaker 2: wacky guys hit you with stuff on social media. Someone

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Speaker 2: selling me that there is a Pittsburgh offensive analyst or

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Speaker 2: someone who's doing more tweaking of the offense than everybody.

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Speaker 2: You know. The offensive coordinator there the last couple of

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Speaker 2: years has been kind of boring and dull and predictable,

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Speaker 2: and it sounds like there is a bit of a

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Speaker 2: shift going on. I don't know if you're aware of

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Speaker 2: any of this.

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Speaker 1: Well, it wouldn't be hard to do anything that's better

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Speaker 1: than what Matt Canada has been doing. So it's certainly believable.

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Speaker 2: The predictable runs into the line of scrimmage three yards

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Speaker 2: into cloud or dust with a running back who's a

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Speaker 2: Naj Harris. Yeah, they're very predictable. I listen, I have

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Speaker 2: Steelers in the playoffs. I know that's crazy, but remember

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Speaker 2: I had a stat somebody had it on somebody gave

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Speaker 2: it to caln today. The last thirty three seasons of

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Speaker 2: the NFL, there have been three or more new playoff

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Speaker 2: teams every year, and I know that, well, you know,

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Speaker 2: history isn't automatically going to repeat itself, but this is

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Speaker 2: the NFL. Like nobody stays on top for long.

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Speaker 1: We might see more new playoff teams, but I don't

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Speaker 1: think the Steelers will be one of them.

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Speaker 2: Don't think. Okay, all right, Adam Turnoff obviously follow him

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Speaker 2: on social media and you know he interacts with the audience.

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Speaker 2: He's great and at disappointing in that Jets Bills game.

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Speaker 2: But we don't want to start, Adam. You don't want

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Speaker 2: to start zero to one and then have to go

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Speaker 2: to Dallas and we two.

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Speaker 1: No, definitely not.

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Speaker 2: But and Michael Parsons against whoever's at left tackle for

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Speaker 2: the Jets like that could get ugly for Rogers. But

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Speaker 2: Rogers does historically do well against Dallas. I don't know

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Speaker 2: what that means, you know, and now he's in a

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Speaker 2: different city. But yeah, we'll see. Oh, by the way,

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Speaker 2: do you want Dalvin Cook with the Jets?

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Speaker 1: Not really. I don't think we need to go more

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Speaker 1: veteran guys around, especially at running back. Let's let's focus elsewhere.

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Speaker 2: What if you heard Breese Hall was going on the

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Speaker 2: pup and out for the first four games.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm surprised he hasn't already. I don't think that

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Speaker 1: that's a stretch to have happened. But I mean, give

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Speaker 1: me any just put anyone behind Rodgers Michael Carter, Come on,

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Speaker 1: well you think about Carter in the past game. Why

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Speaker 1: not give me any I just I don't I'm not

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Speaker 1: a big call me whatever. Running back guys are being

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Speaker 1: slandered as but I just don't think you need one

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Speaker 1: to be that effective in the NFL In twenty twenty three, It's.

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Speaker 2: Fair Rogers did take a thirty five million dollar pay

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Speaker 2: cut to free up money for something.

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Speaker 1: Well, give me more receivers.

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Speaker 2: More receiver all right, I could ask a million Jets

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Speaker 2: questions from Denzel Mims, who nobody cares what a brick

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Speaker 2: of a pick that was. Anyways, Adam turned off. Thanks

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Speaker 2: a lot, buddy, Thanks very much the volume