1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Almost Famous podcast. 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 3: It's been in back by. 5 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 2: Very popular man, outrageously popular to the man, the man 6 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 2: who brings the joy, the truth, the light, the man 7 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 2: who lights up our years with his voice and analyzation 8 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: of reality television. Easton, Welcome back. 9 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 4: What an introduction. Wow, Well, I'm glad to be back. 10 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 4: I'm so honored to return. I am glad I passed 11 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 4: the audition. Yeah, and I'm excited to continue this world 12 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 4: of Perfect Match with you. Ben. I'm just having the 13 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 4: best time. 14 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, you blew us away. 15 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: Listeners were scraping at their phones to comment. Please bring 16 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: Easton back, He's so good at this. We are breaking 17 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: down The Perfect Match episodes three and four. If you 18 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: haven't been a part of this yet, we're breaking down 19 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: the Perfect Match this season because Bachelor Nation has a 20 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: lot to do with this season of The Perfect Match. 21 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 2: We have two contestants now starting in episode three from 22 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 2: The Bachelor. Both Rachel and Clayton are on the beaches 23 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 2: in Tulom for the Perfect Match. We got to follow 24 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 2: their story. This is an exciting time for Bachelor Nation 25 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: to see if something can be rekindled after the massive 26 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:33,279 Speaker 2: heartbreaks that occurred during Clayton's season of The Bachelor, leading 27 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 2: Rachel to go on to be the Bachelorette with Gabby Wendy. Today, 28 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 2: we're gonna be breaking down both episodes three and four 29 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 2: together because this season is great, but it's long and 30 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: we need to start consolidating, or we're gonna run out 31 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: of time, like. 32 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 4: We don't mean run out of time, like before we die. 33 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: Or I feel like this could go on for like 34 00:01:58,160 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 2: three months, like the show. 35 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 3: It's a really weird. 36 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 2: Thing when a show's streaming and it all gets released 37 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: and we're still talking about this like two and a 38 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 2: half months from now, and the show has been aired 39 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 2: for two and a half months and everybody's watched it. 40 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 2: I just feel like we'll get out of date. 41 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 4: I agree, And I wonder if the dating show model 42 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 4: lends itself better to week by week because people love 43 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 4: to analyze and like make theories and stuff. It's kind 44 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 4: of weird to have it all out there at once, right. 45 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the binging thing. I also wonder I 46 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 2: don't know this world well enough. I wonder if the 47 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: money for a show is is better when it airs 48 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 2: week to week, Like, why would we ever do it 49 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 2: week to week if you're gonna get the same amount 50 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 2: of money for a show if people just binge it 51 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 2: in one night. 52 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 3: But here's the truth. 53 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 2: The press dies off and so the perfect match is 54 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 2: in everybody's thoughts right now, and it's all over the news, 55 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: especially episodes three and four, people are talking about and 56 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 2: in a month, nobody's gonna remember it, and so it's 57 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: kind of like a flash in the pan because it 58 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: comes and goes with a bachelor. It's all the only 59 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 2: thing people have in US weekly for two months as 60 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: it's airing exactly Okay, Easton, I'm going to get started 61 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 2: to just kind of get warmed up here. I know 62 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 2: there's a lot of nerves when it comes to co 63 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 2: hosting the Almost Famous podcast. There's a lot of responsibility. 64 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 2: So it's just like kind of rapid fires. Some thoughts. 65 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 2: How are you liking the show? Obviously you're here week 66 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 2: one we had Clayton and Ashley four, episodes two, you're 67 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: back for three and four, pretty far into this thing. 68 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 3: How you liking it? 69 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 4: And I'm loving it? I'm in It's a lot of fun. Again, 70 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 4: I don't watch a lot of these kind of like 71 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 4: dating reality shows, so I'm kind of like learning the 72 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 4: vibes and it's fun. I'm having a really good time. 73 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 4: I didn't know who any of these people were besides 74 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 4: Rachel and Clayton, and I'm loving him. I have like favorites, 75 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 4: I have people I dislike, and I'm like forming my 76 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 4: own relationships with these people. I'm forming my own perfect 77 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 4: match as I watched the show, and I'm having a blast. 78 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 4: I'm really joining this. 79 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 3: Who are you liking right now? Like, who are you 80 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 3: rooting for? 81 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 4: I love a d and Ali. They're like my favorite couple. 82 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 4: I love them. I want I know, well you know, 83 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 4: we'll get into it, but I want them to adopt me. 84 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 4: I love them and Louis. I've come around on Louis. 85 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:36,679 Speaker 3: You were a fan of Louis at first. 86 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 2: I've been a fan of Louis not because I think 87 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 2: he's like the best dude in the world. He's entertaining 88 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 2: to me, and he's kind of like this. He's definitely 89 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: he actually he wants to not be twenty three. He's 90 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 2: definitely twenty three years old. 91 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, a big time. He threw me for a 92 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 4: curveball in episode three, and I enjoyed that. I thought 93 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 4: that was a lot of fun. He's really standing out 94 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 4: to me and we'll get it again. We'll get into this. 95 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 4: But I really enjoy Freddie too. I've really I really 96 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 4: liked Freddy on the date in this episode. Yeah, so 97 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 4: those but if I had to pick one favorite Ad 98 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 4: and Ali, I will die for them. I love them 99 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 4: so much. 100 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 2: I think they're fantastic and it's awesome to see a 101 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: dynamic that you watch them and you're like, you could 102 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 2: actually work. Like it's very clear you can work in 103 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: the real world and the perfect match is not set 104 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: up as we talked about with Clayton to build those 105 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: real relationships, but you can meet your partner anywhere. And 106 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 2: it feels like to me at this point that they 107 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 2: are a real couple who really enjoy each other and 108 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 2: who can make each other laugh, and they have this 109 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 2: dynamic Easton. 110 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 3: You're a married man. 111 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: They have this dynamic that only exists within like years 112 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 2: of marriage where you can kind of like joke with 113 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 2: the other person about what's annoying you and you just 114 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 2: know it without saying it. But the person's like, I 115 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 2: know I'm driving them crazy right now. And it's awesome. 116 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, And like I was watching them and I 117 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 4: kept having to remind myself, like, oh, they've only known 118 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 4: each other a couple of days at this point, like 119 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 4: they four days, Yeah, four days, that's crazy. But like 120 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, they've been together six months at least 121 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 4: or a year. But yeah, it's really I know that, 122 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 4: like this setting lends itself to a very intense connection 123 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 4: very quickly, But I just think that they get along 124 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 4: so well. They seem so compatible to me. 125 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 2: Well, it starts out with eighty and Ali were kind 126 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 2: of transitioning from episode two. They're in the boardroom making 127 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 2: the decisions on behalf of the house they just signed. 128 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 2: They decide to send Louis and Alex on a date. 129 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 2: Alex is the one that Ali was really pushing to 130 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 2: get into the home. I never felt like he was 131 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 2: doing it because he necessarily wanted to move on from Ad, 132 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 2: But I do think Ali was saying it with like, hey, 133 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind looking at her in the house for 134 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 2: the next few weeks. 135 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 4: Yes, And I mean Alex is attractive. And I got 136 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 4: to shout out this quote from her like introduction, I 137 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 4: just I loved I rewound it and watched this two 138 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 4: or three times. I am constantly horny, the sexiest fire 139 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 4: I've never been in love. So I want to save 140 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 4: my freaker side from my man if I find him here. 141 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 4: I am constantly horny. 142 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 3: I love that. 143 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 4: I want that on a T shirt. 144 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 3: Just walk around town. 145 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 4: I am constantly horny. 146 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 2: It's still amaze me since at the vulnerability and the 147 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 2: transparency that these contestants bring to the beach. 148 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 3: It feels like a theme of. 149 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 2: The season that they have found not only I don't 150 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 2: know what is it, ten attractive people, but ten very 151 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 2: vocal people about what they're on the beach four And 152 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 2: I enjoy it because again I go back to and 153 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: I sound like a record that's repeating itself. It makes 154 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 2: me uncomfortable, and I enjoy it because it's so different 155 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 2: than how I would function on a show like this. 156 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 2: And I enjoy watching it because I have respect, honestly 157 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 2: for their openness to just say, hey, I'm letting it 158 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 2: all out there. 159 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm with you. I think if I 160 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 4: was on the show, I would have completely differently than 161 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 4: they are. And so that's why I love watching this, 162 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 4: because it's like, oh, this is what it would be 163 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 4: like to be this open in this vocal. 164 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 3: This hot and horny all the time. 165 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, too hot to handle in a lot of cases. 166 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 2: Yes, So I think on this date you preface Alex's 167 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 2: kind of feelings going into this date. They are a 168 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 2: very attractive couple. They have a lot of physical chemistry. 169 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 2: Here's my take on the date. Though, louis like she 170 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 2: makes him nervous. I think he's all talk, that's my 171 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 2: take on him. He's coming out swinging from the very 172 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 2: opening of this show with how Smoothie is and what 173 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 2: he can offer somebody, and he's kind of confident and 174 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 2: he's there. He goes on this date with Alex. It 175 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 2: feels like she makes him shudder, meaning he is so 176 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 2: like intimidated. 177 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 4: Yes, I agree. And when they're on the date, they're 178 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 4: like in this pool and they do the underwater camera 179 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 4: and you can see Alex is like touching his leg 180 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 4: and at one point I think she's like playing with 181 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 4: his curly leg hair. 182 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 3: Which it's kind of a weird camera shot. 183 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, very very weird. But I can tell he's like 184 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 4: I got the same vibe that he's being. He's quietly 185 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 4: intimidated at this point and it's like, oh God, what 186 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 4: is this force of nature that I've been reckoning with? 187 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 3: I had to stop. 188 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 2: Like that shot made me feel awkward because I didn't 189 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 2: know what they were going to be showing underneath the water, 190 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 2: Like I don't need to know that she's touching his 191 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 2: leg hair and that he is enjoying it. 192 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 3: I didn't want to have to see that. 193 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 2: I didn't see it, luckily, but it felt like that's 194 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 2: what they were going to back us into. 195 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a We've talked about the camera work 196 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 4: in this show, like the the ims with the really 197 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 4: wide angle and like and this underwe the underwater camera. 198 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 4: Realizing that's an option, I'm like, oh god, what else 199 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 4: are we going to see with this thing? Now? I 200 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 4: know that's there? 201 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 2: Is there like a dude scuba diving like right next 202 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 2: to him, Like how is is this a drone camera? 203 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 3: Is it on a rope? 204 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 2: Like in my In My Years of Bachelor, they did 205 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 2: have some underwater shots, but it was a guy holding 206 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 2: this underwater camera. That shot was very close, so you 207 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 2: see like three ft away kind of floating into him. 208 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 3: Be like, oh my bad. Guys, Like. 209 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 4: That's the thing I keep reminding myself too, is like 210 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 4: they're they're doing this stuff. It's no different from Bachelor, 211 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 4: but like and there's like, you know, a guy like me, 212 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 4: like wearing a backwards hat and cargo shorts is holding 213 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 4: a camera like it's the at them. 214 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 2: So odd, that's so weird. Uh, this day doesn't have 215 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 2: a lot of like depth to it more than the 216 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 2: fact that they just feel like they're both into each other. 217 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 2: They're both there for similar reasons. They feel like very 218 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: similar humans. At this point Easton, it feels like to me, 219 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 2: there is no shot Louie is going with anybody other 220 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 2: than Alex. 221 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 4: Yep, but he's you know, he's really into Sandy. So 222 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 4: like when I saw this date, I was like, oh, 223 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 4: it's over. It's over for her. He's good. And they 224 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 4: keep showing other contestants talking about how Louis loves a 225 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 4: shiny new thing out Louis loves new things, like okay, 226 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 4: well here's a new thing. He's on a date with her. 227 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 4: It's over, and we learned that that is not the case. 228 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 4: It's very interesting. 229 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 2: It is very interesting. Freddie and Rachel are also set 230 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 2: up on a date. Remember this is all done by 231 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 2: Adi and Ali. The really funny dynamic. Here is Ady 232 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 2: back at the house. She's telling all the girls how 233 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 2: beautiful Alex is and how beautiful Rachel is, and how 234 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 2: nervous she is about her man, who also helped her 235 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 2: invite these people. 236 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 3: Into the home. 237 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 2: I enjoy these conversations because not only did it bring 238 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 2: some suspense to the show for me, where I'm like, 239 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 2: I get it, eighty, You're you're not wrong here, it's 240 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 2: also just funny and enjoyable to see contestants on a 241 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 2: rally show in a lot of ways be supportive of 242 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 2: other people, like Ady was saying, nothing more than just like, gosh, 243 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 2: dang it, these people are pretty coming in here. 244 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 3: I don't like it. 245 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's again this like uh mechanic of bringing in 246 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 4: the new people through the boardroom. It's so it's so 247 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 4: interesting and it makes you like it adds so many 248 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 4: different layers to how you're playing the game here. But yeah, 249 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 4: I mean, eighty's really excited about everyone that could potentially 250 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 4: be coming in and uh and what she ends up choosing. Rachel. 251 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 4: Rachel Rekia are our favorite person someone I've spent a 252 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 4: lot of time with. Rachel. I was like seeing a 253 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 4: friend on screen. It was really cool. 254 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 2: It was I haven't seen her on screen a long time. 255 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 2: This felt like a very good, like Dan Namic, for 256 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 2: her to kind of walk in late meet this guy. 257 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 2: Both these dates Easton, in my mind, were perfect setups 258 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 2: if they were gonna break up a couple currently existing 259 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 2: in the house. It was just remind everybody, it's Freddie 260 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 2: and Madison still in the villa up to this point. 261 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 2: It was Louis and Sandy in the villa up until 262 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 2: this point. It felt like they hit a home run 263 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 2: when it came to breaking up these relationships because both 264 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 2: dates feel really good to me, and they feel like 265 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 2: very similar people. 266 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 3: Freddie. 267 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 2: If you listen to our last episode where Clayton co hosted, 268 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 2: he talks about just how great of a dude Freddy is. 269 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 2: He's everything you think he isn't and more. Rachel's an 270 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 2: amazing person, and so in my eyes, I'm like, Rachel 271 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 2: found her guy. There's gonna be no drama between her 272 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 2: and Clayton. They might even just say hi to each other, 273 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 2: but there's no way there's any crossover here. There's no 274 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 2: way these two entertained getting back together. That would be 275 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 2: foolish for them to try to do. 276 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, this painting. Date is so cute and they seem 277 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 4: to be getting along great. And Rachel Rekia we know 278 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 4: her very well. She's gifted in many, many ways. Painting 279 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 4: is not one of her talents. I'm sorry, Rachel. 280 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 3: She can fly a plane. She cannot paint. 281 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 4: She cannot she cannot paint. 282 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 3: It is. 283 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 4: I'm going to say it right here. It's just the 284 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 4: worst painting I think I've ever seen. This is all 285 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 4: just abysmal. It made me want to turn the TV 286 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 4: off when I saw that painting. But that there, the 287 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 4: date is so cute, and I'm like, oh my god, 288 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 4: this is it. And I keep tricking myself because I'm like, oh, 289 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 4: this is this is her mat. She found her guy. 290 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 4: They're going to ride up in the sunset. Oh no, 291 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 4: how wrong I was. 292 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 5: Oh God, okay, I have to put you on to 293 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 5: these leggings I've been obsessed with lately. They're from this 294 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 5: brand called Tona, and get this, the designer behind them 295 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 5: also created Lululemon, so they know what they're doing. These 296 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 5: leggings are next level, think butterysoft, super flattering, and very comfortable, 297 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 5: but they're also very supportive in the right places. So 298 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 5: I started wearing them when the kids and I go 299 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 5: out to play, and now I'm basically living in them 300 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 5: twenty four seven. 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Also, Freddy and Rachel returned back to 312 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 2: the villa from their date, and as Easton was kind 313 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 2: of referencing there, we have to remember that Clayton is 314 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 2: still at the villa with no idea that Rachel is 315 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 2: going to show up. Clayton is shocked. In fact, Easton, 316 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: we were all shocked. It's fun to see the two 317 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 2: of them together in a house that we can watch. 318 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 2: We have gotten to see it on an almost famous 319 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 2: podcast trip before there did seem to still be sparks, 320 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 2: so I wasn't shocked that maybe they would entertain each other. 321 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 2: But I was also thinking, at this point Rachel's with Freddy, 322 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 2: Clayton is not even going to get the time of 323 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 2: day from Rachel. 324 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 3: Why would she do that again? That would be. 325 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 2: Crazy interesting takeaway. It feels like most of the house, 326 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 2: if not all of the house, had no clue that 327 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 2: Rachel and Clayton would know each other. 328 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, it seems like most of the people there, maybe 329 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 4: all of them have not seen The Bachelor before, Like 330 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 4: they seem very like they're aware of it, but. 331 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 3: I don't know. 332 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 4: There wasn't anyone that was like, oh my god, it's Raly, 333 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 4: it's Clayton from The Bachelor, like like they have those 334 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 4: reactions to other people like Juliette got a big pop 335 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 4: from a O. The csta key fans out there were 336 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 4: losing their minds. Uh, But they didn't know they had it, 337 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 4: that they knew each other A littlone had this dramatic 338 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 4: history and uh. Clayton says that the last time he 339 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 4: saw Rachel in person was about a year ago, and 340 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 4: I was thinking about that, and I'm like, was that 341 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 4: the Almost Famous trip. I got so excited because I 342 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 4: mean I wasn't there personally, but I was like, oh 343 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 4: my god, that's I wish. I was really hoping he'd say, yeah, 344 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 4: it was about a year ago in Pebble Beach, California 345 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 4: with the almost Famous podcast. But then actually I. 346 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 3: That you can listen to it anywhere. 347 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you can listen to my immediate reaction. I 348 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 4: think I talked about it on the on the podcas. Yes, 349 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 4: but yeah, they're their reaction or their reunite recarnunion, Yeah, 350 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 4: their reunion. I was expecting it to just be like, oh, hey, 351 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 4: I'm doing I'm here too, like it's it's good to 352 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 4: see you, like may the best man win, and then 353 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 4: just kind of like going their merry way. Oh god, Uh, 354 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 4: it didn't happen. How did this happen? Like, like, how 355 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 4: did they how did that sparkt re ignited it? 356 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 2: I think it was a hello to a can we 357 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 2: come talk conversation where it and it happens at the 358 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 2: end of the night. I think both had had started 359 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 2: to realize that if not for each other, they were 360 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 2: going home. You know, the beauty of reality television and 361 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 2: how these shows are set up. Nobody really wants. 362 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 3: To go home. 363 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 2: You don't say yes to this experience, and you don't 364 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 2: get in shape for this experience. You don't buy clothes 365 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 2: for this experience. You don't start prepping for this experience 366 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 2: with the idea that, yes, I'm just going to give 367 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 2: it a good couple hour shot. 368 00:18:58,920 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 3: Here. 369 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 2: There's a lot of reasons why you want to stick around. 370 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 2: I think that is something that we have to remember 371 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 2: when it comes to the Clayton Rachel dynamic. Is it 372 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 2: definitely felt like Clayton had no interest in Juliette any longer, 373 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 2: that the two of them were holding on by a thread, 374 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 2: and that he knew if he didn't make the move first, 375 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 2: she would be probably dumping him as soon as she 376 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 2: was set up on a date with somebody she liked 377 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 2: just a little bit more. Rachel comes into a house 378 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 2: with some strong couples that already exist, and really her 379 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 2: shot is with Freddie kind of shockingly because I don't 380 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 2: see it, Freddie, the Freddie Madison relationship. I definitely see 381 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 2: that Freddi Rachel. I don't see the Freddy Madison relationship. 382 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 2: You know, Freddie seems pretty stuck on Madison. He comes 383 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 2: pretty much right back to her when he walks into 384 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 2: the house. This all comes up to Nick Lachey kind 385 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 2: of sharing with us the two ladies will be leaving 386 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 2: at the end of the night. So two of these 387 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 2: ladies that are in the house currently people who have 388 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 2: you know, been in cup relationships previously on the Perfect 389 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 2: Match and some of those newbies could be going home. 390 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 2: Alex and Rachel obviously newbies, but they had great dates. 391 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 2: This brings us to I think the Perfect Match we 392 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 2: would call like the cocktail party where everybody starts to 393 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 2: have to come together in some way to see who's 394 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 2: going to match and who's not. 395 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I was thinking about the Madison Freddie relationship 396 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 4: and like Freddy goes on the date with Rachel and 397 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 4: Madison's just bawling. She's like so sad. Yeah, And I 398 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 4: think I can't remember who said it. It was Louis 399 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 4: or one of the British guys was like, oh, you 400 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 4: think that he just went away to wool and I'm 401 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 4: like yeah, yeah, I'm like screaming my TV. I'm like, 402 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 4: you've known each other for like seventy two hours, why 403 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 4: are you reacting this way? And I know they just 404 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,719 Speaker 4: want to you know, they want to hang on, they 405 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 4: want to hang onto each other, they want to stick around. 406 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 4: It's Ollie says that she's that Madison's manipulating him with 407 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 4: her tears. This made me I'm not a Madison fan 408 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 4: at this point. I don't like Madison. I want her 409 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 4: to be castaway immediately. And but you know, then we 410 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 4: start this game of musical chairs at this cocktail party. 411 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 4: We're going to figure out who who has to go 412 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 4: home and and who gets to stay. There's a lot 413 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 4: of interest in Alex at this party. A lot of 414 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 4: people have a wandering eye. 415 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 2: Yes, Madison, you know, she was kind of a character, 416 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 2: not top of mind until this moment. She was so 417 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 2: emotional that it did rub me the wrong way. What 418 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 2: you came on this show. You just met this guy 419 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 2: the day before, you're so sad. It feels it does 420 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 2: feel in a lot of ways where Freddie is a 421 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 2: sensitive fella, that this will play into his decision making 422 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 2: because he doesn't want us to make Madison cry. I just 423 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 2: don't see it, Easton, I don't see it frustrates me 424 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 2: like it frustrated you. I don't like that she's doing this. 425 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 2: Everybody else there is handling it with respect and humor, 426 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 2: where it's like, gosh, dang it, yeah, our guy went 427 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,239 Speaker 2: on a day with hot girl, or our girl went 428 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 2: on a day with the hot guy. She absolutely breaks down, 429 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 2: which to me would be in a lot of ways 430 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 2: a red flag on a show like this, where it's like, 431 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 2: how emotional can you really get after forty eight hours 432 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 2: of knowing somebody that they just went on a date 433 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 2: that they didn't even choose to go on. They got 434 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 2: told they were going on it. It's not like he 435 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 2: was like asking for it. 436 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 4: That's true. It's so bizarre, But you know, I guess 437 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 4: that this is the nature of perfect. 438 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 2: Match and anyway to see some relationships. Alex is getting 439 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 2: a lot of attention from the guys. It is a 440 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 2: very superstar moment for her. She comes into the house 441 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 2: and every head turns. I think that almost goes against 442 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 2: her because so many people are interested in her that 443 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 2: I think a lot of the guys are nervous to 444 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 2: even talk to her because they know that if they do, 445 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,959 Speaker 2: they might get convinced to go a different direction. I 446 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 2: also don't know how much interest she showed anybody other 447 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 2: than Louie. I mean, I think there was obviously some 448 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 2: some single men in the house or some men that 449 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 2: were a lot more accessible to switching to somebody new 450 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 2: than Louie. But I kind of feel like she didn't 451 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 2: play it as hard as she could have. I think 452 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,719 Speaker 2: she had Clayton. She could have gotten Clayton in a second. 453 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 2: I could honestly have seen her. I don't know where 454 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 2: Freddy's mind was at. It felt like Freddie was very 455 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 2: much a free agent, but shockingly he maybe isn't. 456 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 3: It just didn't it didn't make sense. 457 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree. At one point, Ollie talks to her 458 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 4: and again, like you know we said earlier, like I 459 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 4: think he just wants to have her around because she's 460 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 4: nice to look at, and it's like, oh, it would 461 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 4: be fun to just kind of have her nearby. But 462 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 4: I don't think we're gonna be the match. But I agree, 463 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 4: she's only really shown interest in Louie and I, you know, 464 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 4: I wonder if she she's from Temptation Island, so I 465 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,239 Speaker 4: wonder if she is aware of Louis's reputation. I do 466 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 4: really I enjoyed they go on like a they go 467 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,199 Speaker 4: off on their own, Louis and Alex and they do 468 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 4: like a speed dating thing because Louis like really trying hard, 469 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 4: like do I need. 470 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 3: To This is so funny. I forgot this scene. 471 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 4: It's so good. Uh, he's trying to decide if he's 472 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 4: gonna leave Sandy and go with with Alex, And something 473 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 4: I just thought was funny is he's like, uh, we 474 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 4: need to do a speed dating thing here, like let's 475 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 4: get to know each other. And then like then he 476 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 4: has just nothing to say, he has no question. She's like, 477 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 4: you ask me a question, are you are you interested 478 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 4: in anything? He's like, uh, what's her favorite color? 479 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 3: So good? 480 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 2: It's such a I mean, that's what I'm saying. I 481 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 2: think she throws Louis off. 482 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 483 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 2: I don't think he has the confidence that he communicates 484 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 2: and has shown most of the season. I think she 485 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 2: intimidates him and he's nervous about that. For whatever reason, 486 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 2: she makes him so nervous and you see it there. Well, 487 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 2: this kind of goes back and forth. It comes all 488 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 2: back to the Clayton and Rachel conversation. Ultimately, no big 489 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 2: shockers here. Ali Ndy match. First, then you have the 490 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 2: Freddie and Madison match. I think that is a shocker, 491 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 2: but we've kind of talked to that here, and at 492 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 2: that point, Rachel's seeing that maybe this date that she 493 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 2: went on is not going to be something that keeps 494 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 2: her around. Daniel and Lucy match not surprising. So we 495 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 2: have Rachel and Clayton, we have Louie still sitting out 496 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 2: there deciding between at this point Sandy and Alex, Clayton 497 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 2: wants Rachel to match. Yeah, Easton, as we live in 498 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 2: this vacuum and in this moment, I hear this and 499 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 2: see this, and I am saying, I remember when Rachel 500 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 2: co hosted a show with us, and I feel like 501 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 2: I asked her. I said, there's no way you got 502 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 2: back with Clayton, right, and she didn't answer me. I'm 503 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 2: at this point going, what are you doing? 504 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 3: Rachel? 505 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 2: I get it because I want Rachel around. And so 506 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 2: there is this side of me Easton when it comes 507 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 2: to gameplay that's saying, Rachel, just say yes, but don't 508 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 2: get too invested into this and wait until the next 509 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 2: week when somebody knew is here. I want you on 510 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 2: this show, so just do what you gotta do to 511 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 2: get on the show. 512 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 3: But there's a twinkle in her eye that. 513 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 2: I see that makes me feel like goodness gracious, Rachel, 514 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 2: you're still into this guy, like this is real for you. 515 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,959 Speaker 4: I got the exact same vibe and we see, you know, 516 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 4: things go different way later on and we see her reaction, 517 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 4: and I felt so bad for her because, like, going 518 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 4: into this, I was remembering how Clayton treated her on 519 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 4: The Bachelor, and I was like, oh, there's no there's 520 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 4: no way, there's no way. But like when you're especially 521 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 4: in this, you're in tu loom, you're in this like 522 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 4: you're back in a very similar scene. How easily can 523 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 4: you slide back into those emotions or remember those initial 524 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 4: connections you had? That's those are hard to ignore in 525 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 4: those in those situations, Clayton says something to her that 526 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 4: I found that really stuck out to me. I enjoyed. 527 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 4: He said, I believe everything happens for a reason. It's 528 00:27:55,200 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 4: the screensaver on my phone. That's so good. With respect 529 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 4: to Clayton. 530 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 3: So deep, goodness, gracious, have never heard it before. 531 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 4: It's so deep, you know. So then after that moment, 532 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 4: anytime I was watching this with my lovely wife Allison, 533 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 4: but after anytime someone would like kind of say like 534 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 4: a cliched platitude or something, we would just go. It's 535 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 4: a screensaver on my phone. 536 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I'm always horny. 537 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 4: Is the screensaver on my phone? And I wonder if 538 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 4: Clayton actually does have a have his log screen just 539 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 4: say everything happens for a reason. 540 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 3: I hope he does, and I hope it helps him. 541 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 4: Bless his heart, it helped him make this decision. Wants 542 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 4: to get back with Rachel. 543 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 2: Pause here for a second. Allison does watch this with you. 544 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 2: She's not big into reality television either. Is she enjoying 545 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 2: the perfect match? 546 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: She is? 547 00:28:55,160 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 4: She is tolerating the perfect match. I would She's not 548 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 4: at home right now desperately wanting to watch episode five. 549 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 4: But she had fun and she like I was just 550 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 4: I put it on, and I'm like, oh, she's gonna 551 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 4: be on her phone immediately, But she was like locked 552 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 4: in and she kept like pausing it to be like, Okay, 553 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 4: here's what I think Allie has to do here. So 554 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 4: she got more locked in than I was expecting. So 555 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 4: I think she's more into it than she's letting on too. 556 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it is it's Jessica for me. They're 557 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 2: both big readers. I thought she was just gonna be 558 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 2: kindling the whole time during this show, but no, she 559 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,719 Speaker 2: watched it also, which shocked me and surprises me at 560 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 2: every level. I don't know what it is about this show, 561 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 2: but we're hooked. Rachel and Clayton end up saying yes, 562 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 2: let's match. We see them go back to the room together. 563 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 2: It feels comfortable and also uncomfortable in a lot of ways, 564 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 2: where they're kind of reintroducing each other to one another, 565 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 2: even though they have had a history. They will now 566 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 2: be spending the night together in this hotel room for 567 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 2: the first time in years since Clayton was the bachelor 568 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 2: in the Fantasy suitees week, which we all know, you know, 569 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 2: blew up in his world and also hers. She was crushed. 570 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 2: But they say yes to each other. It is a 571 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 2: source of comfort for them to regnite in tou Loom. 572 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 2: Then we get into the Louis situation. Going into this evening, 573 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 2: I thought there was no question he was going to 574 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 2: be going with Alex, but we see something in Louis 575 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 2: that I don't know. I think it's a big moment 576 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 2: for Louie. I don't know if anybody has ever seen 577 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 2: this from Louis before, where the shiny new thing even 578 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 2: though it's shiny, very shiny. He says, no, I'm going 579 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 2: to go back to what I have. I think it's 580 00:30:56,120 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 2: a great moment for him when we should celebrate what 581 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 2: he's pushing to get with Louis. Juliette at this point 582 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 2: is saying, Hey, Louis, we're friends. Let's just make this 583 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 2: thing work, and he kind of laughs and says there's 584 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 2: no way. Sandy comes into the conversation not wanting to 585 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 2: work hard at convincing him. She just pretty much says, 586 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 2: do you do what you want to do. I'm not 587 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 2: going to try to convince you here. And I love that. 588 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 2: There's like a confidence in Sandy. And Alex is sitting 589 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 2: off to the side, fully expecting Louis to come back 590 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 2: to Alex, but he doesn't. 591 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 3: He picks Sandy. 592 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 4: It's beautiful. It's a big moment of growth for Louis. 593 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 4: For me personally, I don't know if he was actually 594 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 4: going through growth, but at least my experience, YEA a 595 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,479 Speaker 4: living like, Wow, this guy's really like learning about like 596 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 4: connecting emotions to these to these feelings he's having and 597 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 4: looking at a future with this person, not just what 598 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 4: is exciting to me right now. However, we can't ignore 599 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 4: that during his speed dating with Alex, she she said 600 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 4: something about well, like I think she said something like 601 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 4: you seem like the type of guy that needs more 602 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 4: than one person or something, but like I'm down to share. 603 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 4: And he's like, oh really, and he's like saying, hmm, 604 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 4: what can I And so then he and then, with 605 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 4: the confidence of a twenty three year old man on 606 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 4: a reality show, he walks over to Sandy and he's like, 607 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 4: maybe a thriple situation and she's like, no, not at all. 608 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 4: And he's like, Okay, what a shot. 609 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 3: But I forgot that. 610 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 4: At that moment, He's like, I think he realizes what 611 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 4: he stands to lose, and he and he stays with Sandy. 612 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 4: It's really it is really beautiful. I do feel bad 613 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 4: for Alex because she she is only there for a day, right, Like, 614 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 4: she goes home immediately. 615 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 2: And it feels like she, in her mind did all 616 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 2: the right things. She petted his leg, talked about throples, 617 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 2: and I think she thought, Hey, what else could I 618 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 2: have on here? Yeah, we didn't get to know Alex well, 619 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 2: there is really one storyline that we got to know 620 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 2: about Alex. It is beautiful, though, and I don't know 621 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,239 Speaker 2: if Louis would say that this was a moment of 622 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 2: growth for him or not, but it felt like it. 623 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 2: It felt like he was processing a lot slowly, but 624 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 2: processing it and deciding that, no, this Sandy is somebody 625 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 2: I am intrigued by, interested in. 626 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 3: And it's good for me. Let's stick together. 627 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 2: Their relationship skyrocketed to a depth that did not exist before, 628 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 2: so maybe this will end up being good for them. 629 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 2: But one thing that is never good for a couple 630 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 2: Easton is to see your committed partner in a monogamous 631 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 2: relationship make out with somebody else in front of you 632 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 2: in a lot of ways, or at least right beside you. 633 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 2: And that's what happens next in the Perfect Match, because 634 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 2: goodness gracious, that's what the Perfect Match is. The next day, 635 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 2: as everybody wakes up from the craziness of the night before, 636 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 2: we have said goodbye to Juliette at this point, who 637 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 2: says that Clayton and Rachel are going to be boring. 638 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 2: Nick Lache introduces us to something that I'm guessing is 639 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 2: tradition on this show, the kissing challenge, where all of 640 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 2: your senses are muted and you are now to kiss 641 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 2: every person in the house and rate it. A few 642 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 2: issues I have with this. One is obvious it's gonna 643 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 2: only affect the stronger couples. 644 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:31,720 Speaker 4: Yes. 645 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 2: The second is, how do you not know who you're kissing? 646 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 2: Even like all these people are either big or they're small, 647 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,959 Speaker 2: they have beards or they don't. You gotta be knowing 648 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 2: who you're kissing at any given moment. There's no surprises here. 649 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, if you're like really just out of 650 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,760 Speaker 4: it and not paying attention, how could you at least 651 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 4: not know that you were kissing Alie? Like he had 652 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,399 Speaker 4: to be the one who like he's the only guy 653 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 4: with the giant beard. 654 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 2: Uh. 655 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 4: It's you know, and at the very least, like the 656 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 4: person you're matched with. You probably hopefully you've unless you're Clayton, 657 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 4: you've been kissing a lot at this point. 658 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 3: Uh. 659 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 4: And you probably know how they how they work their mannerisms. 660 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 4: This Uh, this kissing competition, the Waivers people must sign 661 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 4: to be on this show. It's crazy to me. Allison 662 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 4: called this consent to the game, and I was like, 663 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,439 Speaker 4: oh my god. Uh, But then I was also, we're 664 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 4: watching them do this. They're wearing they're wearing blindfolds and 665 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 4: the ring these like these noise canceling headphones or something, 666 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 4: and they're just making out all at the same time, 667 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 4: all in a row, and we're hearing like music, you know, 668 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 4: royalty free music in the background. And but I'm wondering 669 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 4: at that, like Nicolache is standing there, is it just 670 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 4: like you just hear the sounds of the beach and 671 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 4: this just kissing noises. It must be such a gross 672 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 4: like thing to listen to as a crew guy there. 673 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:58,399 Speaker 4: I couldn't stove thinking about that. 674 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is one of the things with audio. 675 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,280 Speaker 2: I remember talking about this when I was The Bachelor, 676 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 2: because you're miked up all the time, you know, you 677 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 2: go to the bathroom, you forget that you're miked up 678 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,439 Speaker 2: after a while, you're kissing the noises like these poor 679 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 2: audio people have just heard the worst of the worst, 680 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 2: Like they mike up all the people at you know, 681 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 2: seven o'clock in the morning. At nine thirty, they're just like, 682 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 2: goodness gracious to turn them off. Nickolas Chay's job here 683 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 2: is so weird. 684 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 3: He's he's gotta be. 685 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 2: He's really though, fell into his his groove with Netflix 686 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 2: and all of these odd shows that he hosts, and 687 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 2: he hosts it in such a way that does bring humor, 688 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:45,439 Speaker 2: but also just he feels disconnected. Honestly, he's just one 689 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 2: more body there, full of all these bodies kissing each other. 690 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 2: I think this game gets better Easton if they're gonna 691 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 2: play this game, like why blindfold and why put noise 692 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 2: canceling headphones on? You know who you're kissing, Let's really 693 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 2: make it awkward and make them look at each other, like, 694 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 2: let's make them recognize what's about to happen. I feel 695 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 2: like these blindfolds and noise canceling headphones are really just 696 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,919 Speaker 2: an excuse to make this feel like it's acceptable. 697 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 3: Yes, I agree, I don't know if it works. 698 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 2: You're rating people of you know, I questioned the couples 699 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 2: that didn't rate their partner super high. But again we 700 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,879 Speaker 2: go back to our love for Ady and Ali and 701 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 2: they give each other amazing scores. Eighty gave Ali a ten. 702 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 2: How sweet and cute is that? 703 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 4: I love it. There's a point in this challenge where 704 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:49,280 Speaker 4: Freddy reveals that he eats thirteen boiled eggs every morning 705 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 4: and a tomato a baker's dozen eggs every morning, and 706 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 4: I can't remember why he said that it was like like, 707 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 4: look how good I am with my lips or yeah, 708 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 4: I don't. I wrote that down. I was like he 709 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 4: eat thirteen boiled eggs every morning. I don't remember what 710 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 4: the context was, but we get to learn that about Freddy. Oh, 711 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,879 Speaker 4: they thought it was a food challenge at first, before 712 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 4: they start the challenge. That's why he brings that up. 713 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 4: And and also just you know, before we move too 714 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 4: far on from the the blindfold. I was just thinking, 715 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 4: like if I was doing this challenge, I keep putting 716 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:29,280 Speaker 4: myself in these situations. 717 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 3: I think we all did have to. 718 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 4: I was like, they'd be we'd all be lined up 719 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 4: in a row, ready to like do the kissing, and 720 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 4: I'd be on my hands and knees trying to find 721 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 4: like where I'm supposed to stand stepping off the platform 722 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,439 Speaker 4: or something. Ye like, it would just be sad. 723 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 2: I'd be Freddy pecking. He has an amazing scene of 724 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 2: just pecking people he can't find their lips. 725 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 4: He kisses like a bird. Yeah, there's there's I don't 726 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 4: get how people don't know they're kissing Alie that that's something. 727 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 4: And I like Lucy gave all the A ten and 728 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 4: I see that, and Daniel gets all mad that, like 729 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 4: he's like, how do you not know it was him? 730 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 3: Yeah? 731 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 4: And I have to agree, And that's why I like, 732 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 4: I don't want to think that like there's any producer 733 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 4: manipulation here, But I'm like, how could part of this 734 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 4: not be cooked a little bit? You know, like it's 735 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 4: just such a weird competition. 736 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know who you're kissing? Yea if. But at 737 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:23,399 Speaker 3: the same time, kind of. 738 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 2: Like Clayton was saying last time he was on the 739 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 2: show last you know, last episode, it there is gameplay, 740 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 2: but there's also not. I think a lot of these 741 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,320 Speaker 2: people are just kind of winging it and having fun 742 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 2: and they're not really thinking, oh, I should give my 743 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 2: partner the highest score because I'll win it and. 744 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 3: Then we get to go to the boardroom. 745 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 2: I think a lot of them are still just like 746 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,320 Speaker 2: having fun and being funny and doing crazy stuff. 747 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 748 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 2: I mean we see it with Louie. Obviously you would 749 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,760 Speaker 2: know if you're kissing Louie or Clayton. But Sandy gives 750 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 2: Clayton a ten not and Louie gets mad and you 751 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 2: know that that wasn't Louie. So you're giving somebody a 752 00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 2: ten who you know is not your part, and that's 753 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 2: foreshadowing for the future, but it happens the the episode 754 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:12,320 Speaker 2: kind of ends. After this competition. The winners are Sandy 755 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:16,879 Speaker 2: and Clayton. They will be going to the boardroom. They 756 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,839 Speaker 2: do have now the power and control, and Clayton and 757 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 2: Sandy have a campfire date starting episode four. Now he 758 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 2: just coupled up with Rachel. We want to see where 759 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,240 Speaker 2: the Rachel Clayton thing is going to go. But because 760 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 2: of the competition and the rules of the game, he 761 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:36,880 Speaker 2: is on this date with Sandy. 762 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 4: Thoughts, I thought that was fun to put two people 763 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 4: that weren't matched up on a day, like the winners 764 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 4: of the competition, like make them go on a date. 765 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 4: That was kind of fun and some man wasn't expecting. 766 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 4: But it's just and I don't know what the timeline 767 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 4: actually is here. They make it seem like it's like overnight, 768 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 4: you know, and I like to think that it is. 769 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 4: But it's just crazy to me that he was so 770 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 4: hot on Rachel that night and then immediately not it 771 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 4: feels or like already climbing out of the pool. He's like, uh, 772 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 4: I'm open, you know, I'm open to exploring this with 773 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 4: someone else, and it's just like, oh my, it keeps 774 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,839 Speaker 4: talking about my intuition. I wrote, like I was trying 775 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 4: to down I'm like I again, I'm sorry, Clayton. You 776 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 4: are a friend of the Almost Famous podcast. We like you, 777 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 4: we enjoy you, but my god, you suck here my intuition. 778 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:33,320 Speaker 4: Oh come on, give me a break man. Also, I 779 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 4: meant to bring this up last time I was on. 780 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 4: The rooms are so messy. Their rooms are like disgusting. 781 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,320 Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I know they're small, I know they're like busy. 782 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 4: It's just crazy, like it's just like suitcases with underwear 783 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,360 Speaker 4: spilling out. There's all the hair, progress just towels everywhere. 784 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,720 Speaker 4: It feels like it feels like a you're on spring 785 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 4: break or something with like college freshmen. 786 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 2: These are adults. I think that's a good note. He 787 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 2: is a fair note is these are adults. And if 788 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 2: no matter where, I would expect Dalton adults to clean 789 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 2: their room like I just do. 790 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, especially when you know there's cameras in there. I mean, 791 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:11,800 Speaker 4: come on, man. Uh so yeah, Clayton. Clayton is ready 792 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 4: to uh to to get out of this match with 793 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 4: Rachel already and uh I mean, at this point, is 794 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 4: he like, is he trying to hook up with Sandy? 795 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 4: Is that is that what he or No, He's he's 796 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 4: excited to see who's a potential for him in the boardroom. 797 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,879 Speaker 4: That's that's what He's already looking to the next thing. 798 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 4: And is that like, do you think that's Clayton wanting 799 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 4: to stick around or is that Clayton like changing his 800 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 4: mind like he did as the Bachelor. What's happening here? 801 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 2: It's I think it is the moment, honestly, Easton. So 802 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 2: the uproar for from the fan base is loud against Clayton. 803 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 2: Uh this, I think we could confidently say that Clayton's 804 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 2: time on The Perfect Match did not help his image 805 00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 2: and did not bring him fan support like he maybe 806 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 2: wanted it too or desired it too. And I would 807 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,399 Speaker 2: think that out of everything else, I think the fan 808 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,320 Speaker 2: base would have been okay with them going their separate ways, 809 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,759 Speaker 2: especially if the two of them sat down and talked 810 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 2: and like, hey, this isn't working, but I'm glad we 811 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 2: were here another week and you met somebody and I've 812 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 2: met somebody, so let's continue on in different paths. 813 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 3: And it's been great. 814 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 2: I think this is the moment, the really the catalyst 815 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 2: of this episode happened so early in the episode where 816 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 2: he shows us that he is almost and playing Rachel 817 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 2: again again, And I think this hurts. I think it's weird. 818 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 2: I don't know how he thought this was a good 819 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,839 Speaker 2: idea or why he decided to do it, especially if 820 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,759 Speaker 2: he went on the perfect match to show that he 821 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,760 Speaker 2: has grown as a person and that he believes everything 822 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 2: happens for a reason, all these things. 823 00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 3: It is the moment. 824 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 2: That we see that I said, what is he doing? 825 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:10,400 Speaker 2: He knows it's just gonna hurt Rachel, especially with the 826 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 2: the excitement that she showed to maybe rekindling with something 827 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 2: with him. 828 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:18,280 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, I'm just like And I know he's talked 829 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 4: a bit about like, oh that the editing didn't show 830 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,440 Speaker 4: me in a great light or so, and I'm like, 831 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:27,920 Speaker 4: how is like this is beyond Like I don't understand 832 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,840 Speaker 4: how you can edit this to make it look different 833 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 4: than what it was here. Uh, it's I'm just like, 834 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:35,319 Speaker 4: what is going on with this guy? 835 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:35,880 Speaker 5: What? 836 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:42,399 Speaker 4: Like it's just it's cruel to Rachel's It breaks my heart, 837 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 4: you know, I personally just I I was such a 838 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,839 Speaker 4: big fan of Rachel. It kills me to see her 839 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 4: in pain like this. I'm like, oh my god, he's 840 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:53,800 Speaker 4: doing this again. This is just so insane. Clayton, Damn. 841 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,000 Speaker 3: It's rough. It's a rough, It's so rough. It's tough 842 00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:58,479 Speaker 3: for him. 843 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 2: There's no really excuses at this point to why he's 844 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,920 Speaker 2: making the decisions he's making. When you have somebody that 845 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,399 Speaker 2: you care about, that you have a history with, I think, 846 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,360 Speaker 2: if anything, you can go on this date, but you 847 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:17,839 Speaker 2: owe her a conversation before you make any drastic statements 848 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 2: or any changes to your relationship. But he didn't. Back 849 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 2: of the house during this date, Easton, we see some 850 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:40,719 Speaker 2: couples get very upset about the kissing challenge. Shockingly, the 851 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,880 Speaker 2: kissing challenge cause controversy in the house with some couples, 852 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:50,319 Speaker 2: especially Daniel and Lucy. We get a little bit of 853 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:54,040 Speaker 2: a glimpse into some people's mindsets during the kissing challenge, 854 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:58,480 Speaker 2: but it hurt people. Shows me two things Easton, love 855 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 2: to hear what you think. One is, you know, a 856 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 2: few days into this experience, people do care about somebody. 857 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 2: There's some couples that I think are really invested into 858 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,719 Speaker 2: each other. Some couples that have really grown and are saying, hey, 859 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,239 Speaker 2: I don't want to see you with anybody else. As 860 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,239 Speaker 2: a result, I would have loved for you and the 861 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,720 Speaker 2: kissing challenge to rate me higher than the other person 862 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:18,640 Speaker 2: that you knew. 863 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 3: Was not me. 864 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 2: That would have just been a nice thing to give 865 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,399 Speaker 2: me some confidence moving forward. Even if you did think 866 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,360 Speaker 2: that kiss was fantastic, I don't want to have to 867 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 2: think about it. It also shows me that the kissing 868 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,360 Speaker 2: challenge should just not be a thing if they actually 869 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:34,760 Speaker 2: want couples to form on the beach. 870 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 4: Wow. Yeah, I mean, I agree with you. It's so 871 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 4: hard for me to think about, like, because every relationship 872 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 4: I have been in, no matter how short lived, that 873 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 4: did take months and months of like emotional investment on 874 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:57,120 Speaker 4: both parts, usually on the other person. But so it's 875 00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,200 Speaker 4: hard for me to understand that these people are so 876 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 4: connected after just a few days. And I know this 877 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 4: is like I know everyone we've talked to, it has 878 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 4: been on the show, on the Bachelor, Like it's just 879 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 4: the nature of how you have no other distractions, all 880 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,440 Speaker 4: you're doing is thinking about your connection with these people. 881 00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,080 Speaker 4: So I get it, but it's just like it is 882 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,960 Speaker 4: kind of I don't know it's just it's so interesting 883 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 4: to me that like, it's just it feels like such 884 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,680 Speaker 4: a deeply emotional connection and decision to have to make 885 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:31,320 Speaker 4: the kissing challenge is really just a minefield. I mean, damn, 886 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 4: Like when Daniel Lucy have this conversation. I mean, Daniel's 887 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,200 Speaker 4: in the shower and Lucy is like, she's like, oh no, 888 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, Shu'll wait for him to get out 889 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,799 Speaker 4: of the shower. Maybe we'll get to see some towel action. No, no, no, 890 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,120 Speaker 4: she wants to talk about this right now. She is 891 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,279 Speaker 4: not going to wait. He hit the water's running over him, 892 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,799 Speaker 4: he's putting the he's putting the garnei frue tiss on, 893 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,480 Speaker 4: and she's having this conversation with him. It's and I 894 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,359 Speaker 4: feel bad for her, but also like, you know what, 895 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,399 Speaker 4: there's a way to do this kiss game to save 896 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:05,400 Speaker 4: the feelings of your partner. But also, I mean it's hard, 897 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,800 Speaker 4: you like, can you identify everybody? I don't know, It's 898 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,000 Speaker 4: it's tough. It's just it sets everybody up to fail. 899 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,160 Speaker 4: I agree, I don't like the kissing challenge. You should 900 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,279 Speaker 4: get it, Nicholas Schey, get that challenge out of here. 901 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hurting. It's hurting people. I don't like it. 902 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,720 Speaker 2: It's making me feel something for them. Sandy and Clayton 903 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,239 Speaker 2: returned from their date back to the house. Sandy and 904 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 2: Louie obviously are gonna have to talk. Did this date 905 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:29,760 Speaker 2: go great? 906 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:30,400 Speaker 3: Did it not? 907 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,360 Speaker 2: I don't think anybody is too shocked that Sandy and 908 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:40,200 Speaker 2: Clayton did not have this magical connection. I think Louie is, though, 909 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 2: frustrated because he is on this date with Sandy because 910 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,240 Speaker 2: of the rating system of this kissing challenge. Goodness gracious, 911 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,360 Speaker 2: I didn't even realize it until now. It feels like 912 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:54,440 Speaker 2: this kissing challenge is lasting us a lot longer than 913 00:48:54,440 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 2: I wanted to. Yeah, Rachel and Clayton at this point reconnect. 914 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,839 Speaker 2: Louis and Sandy are gonna be fine. They're gonna work through. Yes, 915 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,400 Speaker 2: they're gonna make this thing work. But it's the Rachel 916 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:12,319 Speaker 2: and Clayton relationship that I think now everybody's on the 917 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,880 Speaker 2: edge of their seats to hear what is going to happen, 918 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,560 Speaker 2: because his intuition knows that it's not going to work 919 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,640 Speaker 2: out between them, and he doesn't want to hurt her 920 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:25,040 Speaker 2: even though he's going to uh and it's just, you know, 921 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,959 Speaker 2: the nature of how this thing has all been set 922 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 2: up Easton, I gotta get because I mean, I'm biased 923 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,440 Speaker 2: and we're both biased. We love Rachel, She's been a 924 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 2: great friend of the podcast. Clayton just came on to 925 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,960 Speaker 2: help us co host here. I just have a hard 926 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:46,719 Speaker 2: time justifying any of his behavior here in any way, 927 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:51,920 Speaker 2: shape or form. He It just to me feels like 928 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 2: such a game, place like moved by him to keep 929 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:59,080 Speaker 2: her around, knowing it was gonna ultimately really hurt her. 930 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,200 Speaker 4: Yes, I agree. I mean, even if you look at 931 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,800 Speaker 4: this so coldly, just like a I am here playing 932 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,200 Speaker 4: a game. I am playing a board game that means 933 00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,719 Speaker 4: I get to stay on vacation into Loom longer and 934 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 4: be on TV. It's still just like it is baffling 935 00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:21,719 Speaker 4: to me, and I just don't see how you can 936 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,040 Speaker 4: have how you can act that way with such disregard 937 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,960 Speaker 4: to the feelings of the other person. It's it's it's 938 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:32,480 Speaker 4: it's insane because, like I, he could have just not 939 00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:35,640 Speaker 4: they could have just existed together. You know, she could 940 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,719 Speaker 4: have come in be like, oh hey, we're both from 941 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,719 Speaker 4: the same franchise, like you know, and fist bump each 942 00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:44,400 Speaker 4: other and then this kind of continued on. But he 943 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:49,040 Speaker 4: initiated this whole reunion thing only to kill it twenty 944 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,160 Speaker 4: four hours later. It's it's so crazy. I feel so 945 00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,640 Speaker 4: bad for her. She is clearly so hurt by this. 946 00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,480 Speaker 4: But you know, hey, Clinton's intuition said this is what 947 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,439 Speaker 4: he has to do, so hey, my hands are tied. 948 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,440 Speaker 3: You know, he needs to check that a little bit. 949 00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,560 Speaker 2: His intuition that I don't think it's working out for 950 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 2: him because either by a brilliant joke of the show 951 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:16,360 Speaker 2: or just really bad unfortunate luck from Clayton. He decides 952 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,920 Speaker 2: to go to the board room to hopefully set himself 953 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:24,120 Speaker 2: up on a new date because his intuition told him 954 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,359 Speaker 2: this was going to be the best decision for both 955 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:27,480 Speaker 2: he and Rachel. 956 00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,399 Speaker 3: The brilliant joke, I think here, and I do. 957 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,600 Speaker 2: I feel like the show has honestly kind of poked 958 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:38,439 Speaker 2: fun at him and the Bachelor throughout. Really, I mean, 959 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,319 Speaker 2: I think the Bachelor is I don't know how they 960 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,120 Speaker 2: view it necessarily, but there's been these jokes in these 961 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,560 Speaker 2: like one liners that have definitely poked fun at the Bachelor. 962 00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,080 Speaker 2: I also feel like Clayton has kind of gotten poked 963 00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,959 Speaker 2: fun at a few times here. I mean, I'm thinking 964 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,200 Speaker 2: about that challenge where his head was in the water 965 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,480 Speaker 2: when they were floating and pulling and getting cards and 966 00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:58,800 Speaker 2: he was too big for the raft. 967 00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,080 Speaker 3: He's a big dude, and he seemed to do it. 968 00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:02,760 Speaker 2: Just find it feels like they almost took a board 969 00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,040 Speaker 2: out of Clayton's raft so that he would sink. 970 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:13,480 Speaker 3: The boardroom has four men as choices for this upcoming week. 971 00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,480 Speaker 2: Clayton is shocked and not able to put himself on 972 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:22,000 Speaker 2: a date unless he is also going to be interested 973 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,080 Speaker 2: in somebody that has not been what he's traditionally interested in. 974 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,000 Speaker 3: The couple of things that stand out here, Jr. 975 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,920 Speaker 2: Is on this he's from the ultimatum. He did a 976 00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 2: trial marriage with Sandy, which I have never used that 977 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,280 Speaker 2: phrase before marriage. 978 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:39,839 Speaker 3: I don't know what that is. 979 00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, like is this something? Is this like another game? 980 00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,080 Speaker 4: Like it's that's so weird? How did that work? 981 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:46,879 Speaker 3: Oh? 982 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:47,240 Speaker 4: God? 983 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,279 Speaker 2: I mean, what are we doing? Like really Easton, Like 984 00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:55,799 Speaker 2: where are we taking society? That His description on here 985 00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,279 Speaker 2: is he did a trial marriage with Sandy and they 986 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,200 Speaker 2: didn't work out for them. They do know each other well, 987 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:07,000 Speaker 2: so Clayton decides to put his own interests aside, even 988 00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,560 Speaker 2: though he's probably gonna go on match now officially at 989 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,640 Speaker 2: the end of this episode, we don't know that for certain, 990 00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,040 Speaker 2: we don't know how this plays out, but he matches 991 00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:18,240 Speaker 2: Rachel and Scott. I think he gives her another chance 992 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,759 Speaker 2: at a perfect match by putting her on a date 993 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:26,440 Speaker 2: with Scott. We see him lead leave the boardroom and 994 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:32,359 Speaker 2: Sandy has set a D and Jay are up her 995 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,880 Speaker 2: former husband. Is that what I'm calling him, Sandy. 996 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,359 Speaker 3: Husband fleeing? I don't know. 997 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,920 Speaker 2: She sets a D and j R Up on a 998 00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:47,680 Speaker 2: date pottery class. I mean, good move for Clayton. I 999 00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,160 Speaker 2: do think out of all this craziness here, we do 1000 00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,160 Speaker 2: have to give him some credit that he recognized that 1001 00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,640 Speaker 2: he was leaving Rachel on her own lonely island, and 1002 00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:00,480 Speaker 2: that he gave her a shot at a potential partner. 1003 00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:01,399 Speaker 3: I do think that. 1004 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,440 Speaker 2: Was a in the midst of all this, it's a 1005 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,719 Speaker 2: chapter closing of him doing something good. 1006 00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:10,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, a tiny sliver of redemption. I was really really 1007 00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,759 Speaker 4: hoping when he saw the four guys on the in 1008 00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,200 Speaker 4: the border room. I was really hoping to be like, hey, well, 1009 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,319 Speaker 4: you know, I came here to try new things and 1010 00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,080 Speaker 4: be my real self. So I'm gonna set myself up 1011 00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:24,839 Speaker 4: with Jalen. Yeah, I was going for that. 1012 00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,920 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Oh that would be amazing. 1013 00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:30,839 Speaker 4: Which, by the way, when they do the like introductions, 1014 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,640 Speaker 4: we get to meet these four new guys, a couple 1015 00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,480 Speaker 4: guys from Love Island and Jalen from Too Hot to Handle. 1016 00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:40,840 Speaker 4: They animate him looking like a demon. He leans his 1017 00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,120 Speaker 4: head back and they give him red eyes and horns. 1018 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:44,919 Speaker 4: I was like, what the on earth? 1019 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,200 Speaker 3: I just don't know enough about these people to even 1020 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:48,480 Speaker 3: like understand. 1021 00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:50,360 Speaker 4: Is that an in joke or something? 1022 00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:50,719 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1023 00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,319 Speaker 4: I don't know. Now I'm afraid of him, Like I'm 1024 00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:57,879 Speaker 4: literally afraid of Jalen when he shows up there. Yeah, 1025 00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:02,839 Speaker 4: but Jaron's a another cute date. I'm really enjoying the 1026 00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,439 Speaker 4: these like crafty dates are setting people up on It's 1027 00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:10,759 Speaker 4: the pottery date is very cute, and uh JR Is 1028 00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:14,520 Speaker 4: coming in like a my guilty pleasure stealing girls from 1029 00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,759 Speaker 4: their guys. I was like, oh damn. But then it's 1030 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:18,720 Speaker 4: a really sweet moment. They have so much in common. 1031 00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:20,680 Speaker 4: They've got like they both have an insane amount of 1032 00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:24,920 Speaker 4: brothers and sisters, like seven. Uh and uh, they're you know, 1033 00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,640 Speaker 4: they both have like what three brothers and two sisters 1034 00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,640 Speaker 4: or something like that they have they're both scorpios. I mean, 1035 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:31,480 Speaker 4: you can't deny that. 1036 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,080 Speaker 3: I you know what a couple of things. 1037 00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,439 Speaker 2: I don't know how they get these people to say 1038 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,960 Speaker 2: the things they did like that, Carrington says, I'm a 1039 00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,640 Speaker 2: a self aware douchebag. 1040 00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,080 Speaker 3: Through like love bombs girls. 1041 00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:49,799 Speaker 2: This guy's going my biggest pleasure is stealing girls from 1042 00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:50,920 Speaker 2: their guys. 1043 00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:54,279 Speaker 3: Like I just where are they finding these people east In? 1044 00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:55,400 Speaker 4: What are they people doing? 1045 00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,640 Speaker 2: And also, I'm with you in the midst of all 1046 00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,920 Speaker 2: this wild and eaziness that is the perfect match and 1047 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:06,200 Speaker 2: guys talking about stealing girls and all of these things. 1048 00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,080 Speaker 3: The producers are brilliant. 1049 00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,640 Speaker 2: Because there's all this wild things happening and then they 1050 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,280 Speaker 2: put them up on the most wholesome dates of all time. 1051 00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:19,719 Speaker 4: It's so funny, like there would be a challenge where 1052 00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:23,800 Speaker 4: it's like, Okay, here's you're gonna lick each other's buttholes 1053 00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,920 Speaker 4: and see if you can identify your partner. And then 1054 00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,360 Speaker 4: then the next one is we're going on a picnic, 1055 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:30,000 Speaker 4: like what. 1056 00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,799 Speaker 3: Ye come pick flowers? 1057 00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:37,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, we're picking wild flowers. I'm doing flower ranging. 1058 00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:39,040 Speaker 3: Oh it's so ridiculous. 1059 00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:43,320 Speaker 6: There's nothing about this that doesn't it's just all crazy, 1060 00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,680 Speaker 6: Like it's a it's a mental roller coaster watching this, 1061 00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,839 Speaker 6: because as soon as you also start to invest into 1062 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,120 Speaker 6: some person like eighty and Ali, she goes on a 1063 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,880 Speaker 6: date and as you said, it is cute. 1064 00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,880 Speaker 2: Rachel seems to be really into Scott. He has a 1065 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,280 Speaker 2: dark sense of humor. They have a nice little date together. 1066 00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:07,680 Speaker 2: He is trouble, she thinks and feels. But I think 1067 00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,400 Speaker 2: at this point she's into it because I feel like 1068 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,719 Speaker 2: Rachel's kind of saying screw it. Like I tried to 1069 00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,319 Speaker 2: go the safe route. I tried to do the thing 1070 00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,880 Speaker 2: that made the most sense. It felt like I'm just 1071 00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:19,640 Speaker 2: gonna enjoy my time here. 1072 00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:24,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, they get along great. I did think it 1073 00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,280 Speaker 4: was funny that Rachel didn't remember his name halfway through 1074 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,960 Speaker 4: the date, because there's times during the show where I'm like, 1075 00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,640 Speaker 4: oh God, who's that person again? So that's a nice 1076 00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:37,080 Speaker 4: analog for the audience there. But I just want to 1077 00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:40,000 Speaker 4: see I want Rachel to have a good time. I 1078 00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:41,760 Speaker 4: just want her to be happy and have fun and 1079 00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:45,600 Speaker 4: be treated with respective and kindness. That's all I'm asking for, 1080 00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,080 Speaker 4: and she has Scott seem like they get along great. 1081 00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,959 Speaker 4: Something I wanted to point out that goes on back 1082 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:56,240 Speaker 4: at the Villa that I really enjoyed was we get 1083 00:57:56,240 --> 00:58:01,440 Speaker 4: introduced to the concept of Louis logic, where Louis logic 1084 00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:05,280 Speaker 4: and he says the editing is so great because he says, 1085 00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,600 Speaker 4: I'm a smart individual and then immediate cut too, I've 1086 00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:14,240 Speaker 4: gotten back with my ex five different times, like five times. 1087 00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:20,760 Speaker 4: My god, they can Clayton seem like a saint over here. Yeah, 1088 00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,840 Speaker 4: So how they get these people say these things is awesome. 1089 00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,280 Speaker 4: I'm loving it. I hope we get more Louis logic 1090 00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:27,720 Speaker 4: as the show goes on. I want to know what 1091 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:29,800 Speaker 4: else goes on that man's in that man's mind. 1092 00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:33,880 Speaker 3: Yes, Eastern great call out on the Louis logic. I'm 1093 00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:34,440 Speaker 3: loving it. Man. 1094 00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,680 Speaker 2: That's why I'm saying I love this show because I 1095 00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:41,760 Speaker 2: don't fit in and I feel like I just soak 1096 00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:45,840 Speaker 2: up all the craziness and try to understand what exactly 1097 00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:46,760 Speaker 2: is happening. 1098 00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:49,880 Speaker 3: There's a lot to be left desired. At the end 1099 00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:51,800 Speaker 3: of this episode, we have a lot of questions on 1100 00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,840 Speaker 3: our mind. One is Sandy's nervous to bring or to 1101 00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,400 Speaker 3: see Jr. Again, But she's the one that brought him 1102 00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:58,080 Speaker 3: into the house. 1103 00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, So the question is did she just not want 1104 00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,880 Speaker 2: to set herself up on a date because that would 1105 00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,280 Speaker 2: be a little too forward and to let him come 1106 00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:08,880 Speaker 2: into the house they can rekindle something, maybe like Rachel 1107 00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:12,560 Speaker 2: and Clayton tried to. Rachel does seem to be beaming 1108 00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:16,400 Speaker 2: with happiness and joy as she enters back into the house. 1109 00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:18,000 Speaker 3: In Ady and Jr. 1110 00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:23,680 Speaker 2: Return to break all of our hearts. They're holding hands Easton. 1111 00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,840 Speaker 4: So sad to see that. I know this is how 1112 00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,640 Speaker 4: the game works, This is perfect match. We are not 1113 00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:34,440 Speaker 4: in a fairy tale. We are in nick Lache's twisted mind. 1114 00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:40,280 Speaker 2: And I hope nicko Lache is making all of this. 1115 00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:42,080 Speaker 3: That would be fantastic to me. 1116 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,080 Speaker 4: He's up in his ivory tower down there in tou loom, 1117 00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:48,560 Speaker 4: moving his little pieces around the board for his own amusement. 1118 00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:52,400 Speaker 4: But it made me so sad because I really I 1119 00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,600 Speaker 4: had such high hopes for Ad and Alie and I 1120 00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:57,520 Speaker 4: could see them going all the way. I really could. 1121 00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:00,520 Speaker 4: I was like, will they be the one couple? Will 1122 01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,680 Speaker 4: they be like Hannah, Hannah g and Dylan. Will they 1123 01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,040 Speaker 4: just like link up at the beginning and then make 1124 01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:07,920 Speaker 4: it all the way? Will they get married and have children? 1125 01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,400 Speaker 4: Is that what's gonna happen? I don't think so. We're 1126 01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,720 Speaker 4: in danger here. I would be very sad. 1127 01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:14,800 Speaker 3: I'll be upset if you. 1128 01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:21,000 Speaker 2: Find me during episode five, well yeah five with tears, 1129 01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:27,240 Speaker 2: feeling like I just got played by love. It's because 1130 01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:31,439 Speaker 2: eighty and Ali didn't work. I'm hoping that they find 1131 01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:35,600 Speaker 2: a way to come back together again Easton. As always, 1132 01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:39,400 Speaker 2: it is such a pleasure breaking down the Perfect Match 1133 01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:43,800 Speaker 2: with you. You are a wizard when it comes to 1134 01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:49,160 Speaker 2: reality television. You bring insights into things that so many 1135 01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:53,560 Speaker 2: of us miss because of your skills, and I can't 1136 01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:56,080 Speaker 2: wait to do this again with you very soon. This 1137 01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:59,040 Speaker 2: has been a breakdown of The Perfect Match episodes three 1138 01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,560 Speaker 2: and four. We'll be here on the almost famous podcast 1139 01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:06,440 Speaker 2: breaking Down episode five, six, seven, eight nine, So continue 1140 01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:11,240 Speaker 2: to stay tuned. Obviously, it feels like one Bachelor Nation 1141 01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:15,840 Speaker 2: contestant may be leaving another one staying that doesn't change 1142 01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:20,040 Speaker 2: our passion and our purpose in breaking down the Perfect Match. 1143 01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:21,840 Speaker 2: Even if both of them are gone, We're gonna finish 1144 01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:25,440 Speaker 2: this season out, because goodness gracious, we're invested, and I 1145 01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:29,040 Speaker 2: know you are as well. Until next time, I've been Ben, 1146 01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:30,360 Speaker 2: I've been Easton. 1147 01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:31,520 Speaker 4: It's been fun. 1148 01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:35,320 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on 1149 01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,600 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.