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Speaker 5: July second. We have got a NBA Free agency bonanza.

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Speaker 5: Excited to break down all the top moves for you,

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Speaker 5: and we are joined today by a special guest, the

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Speaker 5: the Kingmaker himself, Jason Gallagher. Jason, thanks for hopping off

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Speaker 6: Thank you guys. I love that intro. Yes that is

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Speaker 6: going on?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Sure, for anyone who doesn't know, Jason was JJ Reddick

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Speaker 5: and Lebron James's podcast producer until very recently. So do

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Speaker 5: you have just before we get into it, do you

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Speaker 5: have any other news to break? Are you appointing anyone

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Speaker 5: else to head coach of any other teams I like?

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Speaker 5: Or you have any other big moves?

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Speaker 1: I don't have any big moves, but I do have

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Speaker 1: an offer any players that are interested in head coaching

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Speaker 1: and want to get into podcasting.

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Speaker 5: You're the money washer. You're the money washer for them.

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Speaker 5: You take a player, clean the image up, make sure

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Speaker 5: on it, and then boom, they're the head coach of

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Speaker 5: one of the ten biggest sports franchises on planet Earth.

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Speaker 5: Real quick, out there today, go get him as always

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Speaker 5: Jenkison Jones hosted by Dragonfly Jones aka Tyler.

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Speaker 7: Hey, everybody again, le Jethro Jenkins aka John, I'm GUARDI

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Speaker 7: b aka Mike mother mother fucking Mike Cussidy cuss cuss.

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Speaker 5: Mike Cussidy cus Cus. And we're not talking to We're

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Speaker 5: not talking to Jackson today because he was. He annoyed

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Speaker 5: me right before we got on the show. So he's

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Speaker 5: backstage right now and he's just gonna stay there. But

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Speaker 5: hello to the chat. Thanks for joining us for this

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Speaker 5: live episode of Jenkinson Jones. Before we get into the

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Speaker 5: free agency shit, Jase, I feel like we have to

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Speaker 5: talk a little bit about your ride and JJ's ride

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Speaker 2: We have you on.

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Speaker 5: It's like the craziest thing ever. And I feel it's

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Speaker 5: really funny to me that we have Jackson who's Draymond's

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Speaker 5: producer and you. It's like this was not twenty years ago,

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Speaker 5: what's the last couple of months been.

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Speaker 1: So if you're just out to lunch and you just

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Speaker 3: How did like you know, Lebron James, I want to

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Speaker 5: Just like that? Just like that, I'm Lebron James.

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Speaker 3: I want to do a podcast. Since it wasn't a

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Speaker 1: You know, Lebron really wanted to really wanted to dabble

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Speaker 1: Having Lebron James helps, It makes my life pretty easy.

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Speaker 5: It did feel it would feel like a real cheat

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Speaker 5: I think anyone who's in journalism or producing there's always

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Lebron's like a really good like orator, and

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Speaker 3: Were the explainers something that we're decided after hearing the

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Speaker 5: Well, you had to got recirculated of the like Braun asking,

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Speaker 5: All right, Well, we're going to talk about free agency

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Speaker 5: and I wanted through out there because I don't think

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Speaker 5: we've talked about it publicly on the show. But you

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I was hoping you just stop after Jackson

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Speaker 5: I think that's not entirely inaccurate.

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Speaker 6: Uh no, man, that our crew.

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Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I've got these this group and they're great,

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Speaker 6: You guys played basketball with him.

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Speaker 3: Yet he's afraid to play drug He wants to have

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Speaker 5: I'm just taking advantage because on the YouTube live only

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Speaker 5: of that as much as I can with Jackson right now.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, no, John's tried to play with him and

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Speaker 3: I have a shot in a while, But I'm confident.

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Speaker 2: I'm confident I beat an NBA player, you know what

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Speaker 3: This, Why do you think it's so hard for Dallas

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm I'm I'm very much interested in this next

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Speaker 5: I yeah, I was shocked by that. That was crazy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all dynasties in ugly, you know, and it's it's

442
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 4: just the common you know, debate that we have, like

443
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Speaker 4: like how much do you owe to your players who

444
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,919
Speaker 4: help build your dynasty? Because if it was gonna end ugly,

445
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 4: like they should have cut bait after the twenty twenty

446
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Speaker 4: two ring when when we saw that Clay wasn't that

447
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 4: guy anymore. You know, it wouldn't have been popular at

448
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,439
Speaker 4: all with the fan base. But you know, this fallout

449
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,640
Speaker 4: isn't popular at all either, So it's just your damned

450
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 4: if you do, your damn if you don't when it

451
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Speaker 4: comes to, you know, the finals stages of a dynasty.

452
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Speaker 1: Bro, Yeah, I'm I'm of the of the I'm a

453
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Speaker 1: little surprised that they're in the fan service stages. Like

454
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Speaker 1: I would have punted on that for sure, because Steph

455
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 1: to me is still a top guy.

456
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Speaker 5: He still plays, So you would have cut bait with

457
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Speaker 5: Draymond and gone after full rebuild around Steph.

458
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would have whatever it took to

459
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Speaker 1: win with Steph as cool as cute as the Big

460
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Speaker 1: Three is I.

461
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Speaker 6: Mean, you know what I mean, as cool as it is,

462
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Speaker 6: I yeah, Steph is too good. He's just too He's

463
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 6: just he's just too.

464
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Speaker 1: Freaking good to just be like here's a here's a

465
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Speaker 1: victory lap. It's like, no, he's still he clearly has

466
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Speaker 1: still got a lot.

467
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Speaker 5: But but I feel like they got one foot in

468
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 5: two different buckets, you know what I mean. It's like, why,

469
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Speaker 5: like you know, we were talking about does Draymond have

470
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Speaker 5: more of an impact on the court than than Clay

471
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Speaker 5: or whatever? But it's like, you know, Jackson brought up

472
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Speaker 5: what his presence does in terms of team defensive rating

473
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Speaker 5: and stuff like that. It's like, but they don't have

474
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Speaker 5: a team where it really means anything to be top ten,

475
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Speaker 5: you know what I mean.

476
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Speaker 2: So they were still in the play in you know

477
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Speaker 2: what I mean.

478
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Speaker 5: Yeah, but you know, you offered him with the Draymond

479
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 5: contracts one hundred million, and then you offered Clay like

480
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 5: fifty the number.

481
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Speaker 2: The number that he took with Dallas was interesting.

482
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Speaker 3: I think that's because Dallas has a chance of winning

483
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 3: and maybe that, you know what I mean, But yeah,

484
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 3: for sure, but like I mean, he wanted twice the thing,

485
00:23:56,280 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 3: you know, what he wanted twice, you know.

486
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Speaker 5: Like, but here's the thing, man, they have a progressive

487
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 5: property tax in Texas, Clay, you know what I mean.

488
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,199
Speaker 5: So like, I hope you're running, bro, but like the

489
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,919
Speaker 5: house that you own in California is gonna have the

490
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 5: same property tax forever, which is horrible and should not

491
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Speaker 5: be the case, but it is the case. So you

492
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Speaker 5: get we have friends who moved from California to Texas

493
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Speaker 5: and they go, fuck the fucking annual property tax. It's

494
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 5: like twenty five grand, bro. Anyway, Sorry, is that why

495
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 5: the houses are cheaper that I knew there was something

496
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Speaker 5: that balance that out where the house is cheaper because

497
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Speaker 5: the taxes are a particular way out there. Yeah, and

498
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Speaker 5: they actually have a more I think we somehow talked

499
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 5: about this on the pod before. It's actually like a

500
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Speaker 5: more progressive tax policy because as the house becomes more valuable,

501
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Speaker 5: you pay more taxes. Here, that's not the people we

502
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Speaker 5: bought our house from. The house is worth quite a

503
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Speaker 5: bit of money, and they were paying like forty bucks

504
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 5: a year in fucking property taxes because they bought it

505
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 5: in the fifties. Anyway, this is why schools need fund

506
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 5: property fact structure.

507
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Speaker 8: Clay is not contributing.

508
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 5: So here's my so as a Lakers fan, I didn't

509
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 5: I was not bummed out to miss out on Clay.

510
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Speaker 5: If I'm being honest with you, and I'm like Tyler,

511
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 5: I'm a big fan of his. But my negative, my

512
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 5: hater's case, would be two of the last three years

513
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 5: under forty percent shooting from three, the history of guys

514
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 5: with his injuries moving into their mid to late thirties,

515
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 5: and I mean it's a little bit of the same

516
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 5: thing with the MAVs that it would have been with

517
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 5: the Lakers. And it's like, I feel like, defensively, he's

518
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 5: being signed like that. There's a reputation there. Obviously that

519
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 5: is a pre injury reputation. So are you sound as

520
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 5: much happy to have signed a free agent as you

521
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,679
Speaker 5: are about his contributions, which I actually understand based on

522
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Speaker 5: what you're saying, But what is your feeling on what

523
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Speaker 5: he's going to be able to do on the court

524
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 5: for the next couple of years?

525
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I you know, if you watch those Warriors games,

526
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: I don't feel like I don't feel like offense was amazing.

527
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 1: I thought it was somewhat limiting and I felt like,

528
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 1: I feel like he's gonna get Offensively, he's gonna get

529
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: way better looks. I just feel like that's the case. Defensively,

530
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a little rougher. But I am one

531
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Speaker 1: of those people, you know, the guy standing in the

532
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:26,360
Speaker 1: room meme just shouting Dallaston lose the finals because their defense.

533
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 1: I am one of those people that is like, that's overblown.

534
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: In my opinion, Dallas lost the finals because not a

535
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 1: single person could hit open threes in Boston that they

536
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: couldn't they couldn't score. And then the games where they won,

537
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: they their offense kind of looked I guess they won

538
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: one game, but you know what I mean, their offense

539
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: looked like what it had looked like in Minnesota and

540
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: Oklahoma City. I know there's a baseline level of defense

541
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Speaker 1: that's necessary, but I think that the scoring was as

542
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Speaker 1: big a problem as anything. And to be able to

543
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: have a more sort of sound and grounded shooter, you know, again,

544
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,239
Speaker 1: it's like Luca puts these guys in positions. I mean,

545
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,479
Speaker 1: that's kind of the funny thing we say in Dallas

546
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: that Luca gets guys paid. He puts these guys in

547
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: positions to to look like amazing three point shooters. I

548
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: mean the amount of guys PJ. Washington, Derecto Andes Junior,

549
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: you would not have said that about them a year prior.

550
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: And Clay has this whole resume of being a great shooter.

551
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: So now putting him in this position where guys usually excel,

552
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Speaker 1: I'm optimistic offensively defensively will figure it out.

553
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Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know.

554
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 2: If you thing relies on legs so much as Clay's

555
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 2: legs are going, you know what I mean.

556
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 3: I also believe, like of those Big Three, all those games,

557
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 3: he took the biggest hit physically, not just because the injuries,

558
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 3: but because he was playing hard on both sides. They

559
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 3: wanted him to guard the best player and he and

560
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 3: he was you know, game six play at moments, you

561
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So like I just yea, like

562
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 3: everybody here play fan for were Bro, I'm just skeptical

563
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 3: a guy that's had to play those amount of minutes,

564
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 3: you know, on both ends of the court and had

565
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 3: those injuries is going to get better at this part

566
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 3: point in his career, because that's what you need from him,

567
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 3: you know, it's to get you know, to shoot. But

568
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 3: better than he has in the last two seasons. So

569
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 3: we'll see.

570
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Bro, I'm not trying.

571
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, but I feel like, I mean, yes,

572
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 3: what you open.

573
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 2: Threes is what you needed people to hit.

574
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 3: You needed like people other than Kyrie or Kyrie done

575
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 3: how he needed to be himself.

576
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 2: He wasn't himself. He had a bad series point blank. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

577
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 2: half himself with yeah for sure, for sure.

578
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 3: And then like you know, it would be better to

579
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 3: have you know, Clay shooting open threes rather than PJ.

580
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 5: Washington, you know what I mean? So yeah, yeah, Well

581
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 5: this is a tough U. This is a tough segue

582
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 5: for me. I should have put something in between these.

583
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 5: But from talking about whether or not Clay is washed

584
00:28:55,640 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 5: up to DeMar de Rosen solving all the Lakers problems.

585
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 8: It just he is.

586
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 2: He is on the way.

587
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 5: We get a no, we haven't gotten. But what was

588
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 5: just talking about the likeliest scenario being the m l

589
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 5: E for tomorrow to come to the Lakers. Fellas as

590
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 5: bron fans and as a temporary Laker fans, what are

591
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 5: your thoughts on that that pairing at this stage of

592
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 5: Bron's career.

593
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, you can get up for the m l

594
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 4: A like bron was ready to give up twenty MS

595
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 4: for Clay, like some pull a trick on tomorrow easily, easily, like.

596
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 3: Tom get Damar in l a Fordmar. You feel me

597
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 3: like I'll sign up for that for sure. So yeah,

598
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 3: do you make that happen basketball wise?

599
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 2: And just you know what a culture ye?

600
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 5: Do you want to shoot on ship on some dreams

601
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 5: there or are you in agreement?

602
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 6: I suppose that agreement. I mean, I don't.

603
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: I it's such a it's such a weird bit to me,

604
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: But I don't know when the guys are as talented

605
00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: as tomorrow. I mean, the situation the Lakers are in

606
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: right now needs to be shaken up, So why not

607
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: I mean that player available. I do think that my

608
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: former colleague JJ Reddick, you know his stress of I

609
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: will use math and to bring in like the mid range,

610
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: the guy that personally makes me happy to see they

611
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: have to do to figure that one out.

612
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 6: You know, I don't know. I would one hundred percent

613
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 6: be in in if I was the Lakers.

614
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 5: I think I'm surprised that we haven't figured out some

615
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 5: some like some depth in the front court. I thought

616
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 5: I thought that was sort of you know, especially seeing

617
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 5: the numbers that some of these guys signed for, I

618
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 5: thought that was kind of priority one. I do think,

619
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Speaker 5: like fundamentally, since it sounds like they've committed to Austin

620
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 5: Reeves at the one, which I'm very interested in, it's

621
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Speaker 5: it doesn't make sense for he and D'Angelo Russell to

622
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 5: both be there, and they are going to need scoring,

623
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 5: and they're gonna need reliable scoring. And I do think

624
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 5: that looking at what's happened in the playoffs the last

625
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 5: couple of years. Fuck yeah, like give me that, Like,

626
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 5: give me this version of Demarto Rose And I'm super

627
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 5: comfortable with that the fit versus how much I love

628
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 5: him as a person. For me, I worry a little

629
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Speaker 5: bit that it's the Russell Westbrook DejaVu, because John was

630
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 5: the one who is like, that doesn't make sense at all,

631
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 5: and Tyler and I were both like, I love Russ.

632
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 5: I am so happy. They're all smart people that'll figure

633
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 5: it out.

634
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 6: I was like, you just want that energy, you just want.

635
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 2: I was excited at first.

636
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 3: I was excited at first, and then I sat down

637
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 3: and I just started doing the math and it didn't

638
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 3: make sense.

639
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 2: But The thing. The thing with with the.

640
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 3: Rose and I like is like I think De Rozan

641
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 3: can find a way that these energy is kind of different.

642
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 3: Like I think Westbrook makes Westbrook is just Westbrook, you

643
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 3: know what I mean?

644
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 2: I think De Rozan is a little more I guess

645
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 2: what malleable, you know what I mean?

646
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 3: Where you could like make him fit in a particular

647
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 3: also like in the he can hoop in a like. Dude,

648
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 3: that's that That mid range is cash money. It's two

649
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 3: fucking points, whether it's a lamp or not. In my

650
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 3: won't be a fucking layup. You feel what I'm saying as.

651
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, But Tyler's point, you get, you get a pretty

652
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,479
Speaker 5: efficient mid range twenty four points a game at the MLA,

653
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 5: Like just fucking.

654
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 3: That's very different than what Westbrook was going to bring

655
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 3: and what we needed Westbrook to do.

656
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 5: So, Jason, your thoughts on Paul George to the Sixers?

657
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 5: Where does this put the Sixers in the Eastern Conference?

658
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Speaker 1: Uh?

659
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 2: Universe? Man? Uh?

660
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Speaker 1: My take on this is that I just have never

661
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: cared less about anything. I just there's just something about

662
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: this combination of players of the Sixers, a lot.

663
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Speaker 2: Of a lot of.

664
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Speaker 1: It's just a lot, like you know what I mean,

665
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: The Coopers and Sixers I find to be so similar

666
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: in that like they just they should they I should

667
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: get excited and be like oh wow, but for some reason,

668
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: I just I'm not.

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Speaker 6: And and it's it's just.

670
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Speaker 1: A collection of of players that either get injured or

671
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: fall short or whatever, and I'm just kind of like, yeah,

672
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Speaker 1: I mean, I hope Paul George seems like a nice guy,

673
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: and I hope it works out.

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Speaker 8: Hope everyone has fun.

675
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 5: But you didn't appoint his producer. I get you.

676
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 6: I have did a point.

677
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 5: I don't have all the Jason Gallagher lore.

678
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Speaker 1: My bad, but no I want I Look, I I am,

679
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: I am age. I still am a pretty big Joe

680
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: LMBI fan, and I am I. There are times where

681
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: I find myself like, look, I hate Boston, okay, but

682
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: like when the narrative so out of control about particular players,

683
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: then I find myself starting to be like, just win

684
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: so we can move past this.

685
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Speaker 6: Yeah, that makes sense, And that's a little bit about Tatum.

686
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: I felt that way a little bit about Tatum, and

687
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: that's how that I'm in that zone with Mdeed. I

688
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: just think I just think he's so good and the

689
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: things said about him are a little unfair, just get

690
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: just given the the injuries are just seem to be

691
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: so unlucky in terms of timing. So on that front,

692
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: I hope it works out. But yeah, I don't know,

693
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: I I am. I think it was a good move.

694
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: The East is so weird. You could see how just

695
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: like losing a guy, just your whole season is done.

696
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: You know, That's that was how the path that Boston took,

697
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: so just to get somebody who who if you did

698
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: have to lose a guy, at least he makes it interesting.

699
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's a good move for the Sixers.

700
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 4: I think that on paper, it's an incredible big three.

701
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 4: Like I think they're gonna gel seamlessly like one of

702
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 4: those guys getting each other's way. But you know, there's

703
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 4: I still feel like that's not enough, Like and I

704
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 4: think that you know the landscape of the NBA and

705
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 4: now where there's so much parody and there's so many

706
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 4: teams that are on the brink that just having a

707
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 4: big three isn't going to do it anymore. You gotta

708
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 4: be deep, like like you look at the Knicks. You

709
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 4: know they got Balen, they got Bronson, they got Dante,

710
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 4: they got you know, Julius, they got Mitch. You know,

711
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 4: they got o g You look at the Celtics, they

712
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 4: got Derek. You know, they got Derek, they got Drew,

713
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 4: they got Jason, they got Jalen, they got Horford, they

714
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 4: got KP. Like that big three ain't gonna do. Like,

715
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 4: who's the fourth best player? Oh Brandon and he's he's

716
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 4: pretty damn good. But they need some more and then

717
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 4: then and the off season is still pretty young. Maybe

718
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,439
Speaker 4: they'll fill that roster out. But Eric Gordon, I mean,

719
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,240
Speaker 4: that's not gonna do it, not this one.

720
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, Uh, what do you Jason? What do

721
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 5: you think about the the Oklahoma City Thunder?

722
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 2: And uh?

723
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Speaker 5: Is there some that part of the country there's a

724
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 5: little bit of bad blood between the MAVs and Thunder?

725
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 5: Is they're not Do I not see the fan bases

726
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 5: going after it a little bit? What do you think

727
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 5: of of how much better the Thunder got and how

728
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 5: the the MAVs match up with him?

729
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: Are you all aware that I live out Flahoma? No, Yeah,

730
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:55,439
Speaker 1: so I'm currently in Oklahoma City.

731
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 2: What did this happen?

732
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 6: Uh? Really boring? But in the middle of the pandemic.

733
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Speaker 1: Uh, my wife and son, we were just sort of

734
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 1: like getting restless in La Uh. We want to be

735
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,919
Speaker 1: closer to family because it was it was difficult time.

736
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: My family lives in Texas, her family lives in Kansas,

737
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 1: and we didn't want to live too close. So kind

738
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: of like really randomly picked a spot. And I've really

739
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: enjoyed it. The city itself is is pretty fun, and

740
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: the basket like five minutes away, it's awesome. So that said, yeah,

741
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: there's a lot of that, and my my neighbors like

742
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: my mentions, like everybody's on my ass in the playoffs,

743
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: and I just I like it was unbelievable, Like the

744
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: amount of shit talk was crazy. They hate Luca. They

745
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: hate Luca and he hates that so wonderful. I think

746
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: the thunder are awesome and just it's almost like it

747
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: does it's unfair.

748
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 2: I was.

749
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,439
Speaker 1: I was talking to Jason Concepcio and who you guys

750
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: know last night about about losing Hartenstein and and he

751
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: was like, just like I hate that we had to

752
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 1: we found him and we had to make this difficult choice.

753
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: Like Oklahoma City has no difficult choices. They just they

754
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: could do whatever they want. They just have a magic

755
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: wand it seems like and the Caruso to getdy upgrade

756
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 1: is like an all time upgrade.

757
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 6: I watched that shit up close.

758
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: It was first off, getting rid of giddy was additioned

759
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: by subtraction for okay, see at this point.

760
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 6: Blank, it got awkward.

761
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: It got awkward in the arena when it was like,

762
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: do we start this guy because he technically has like

763
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: seniority that was like his only claim to the starting.

764
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 5: Sign in sports when that's your claim.

765
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 1: And so you know, they I think they started one

766
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: up starting Wiggins in the in the playoffs, but yeah,

767
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: and then the idea that you're replacing him with Caruso,

768
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 1: it's just it's not even like close. And then they

769
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: filled those holes that were very very obvious. The big

770
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: hole was huge stabts, like you could just see it

771
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: from forever away. And then you just forget that they're

772
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: so young that chat. I mean, one NBA season he's

773
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: played like he's gonna get so much better.

774
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 6: Jalen Williams is gonna get so much better. Case and Wallace.

775
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: These guys are These guys are deep, like like scary deep,

776
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Speaker 1: and I think that I think that they're they're my

777
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 1: favorite to get out.

778
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,919
Speaker 8: Yeah, they're my favorite to win the West too.

779
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 4: And you know, like like you said, just the giddy

780
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 4: the eighth Caruso upgrade. Like when that trade came down

781
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 4: my timeline, I was like, Okay, I'll wait for the

782
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 4: you know, follow up reports on you know what what

783
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 4: picks Okac is throwing in. And when I found out

784
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 4: it was just a straight up trade, I was like,

785
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 4: how in the fuck, you know, like I couldn't believe it.

786
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 4: That was wild And and you know, goes back to

787
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 4: what I said, like, so many teams are on the

788
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 4: brink and you got Okac, who just you know, just

789
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 4: I think they're having the best offseason and they're not

790
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 4: even getting the superstars, right, You're getting Hartenstein and and Caruso.

791
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 4: And I think that that that they are for sure

792
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 4: having the best off season so far.

793
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Speaker 8: And like you said, you know, I'm with it too.

794
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 8: Think they're gonna win the West.

795
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 3: Bro They're getting exactly what they need. They're not getting

796
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 3: the names, but they're getting exactly what they need on

797
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 3: that team.

798
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'll just see what you mean there.

799
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: And they can do they can do more. They're still

800
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: room like throughout the season to do more. They have

801
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: so many assets. And like you said, when when nothing

802
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: was attached to the Giddy trade, I was also stunned.

803
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: I was like, there's surely there's something. And maybe that's

804
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: what Damar meant when he was like, it's a lastro.

805
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,479
Speaker 1: Maybe it wasn't even about Giddy. Maybe it was about

806
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 1: the fact that they made this dumb ass trade and

807
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: got nothing in the current, like they didn't get a

808
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 1: pick too.

809
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, they're gonna be so tough with dort

810
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 4: And and Caruso and and Sga on the perimeter. Then

811
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 4: you got Chet and Hartenstein in the back line, bro like,

812
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 4: and Chet is an incredible defender like he was. He

813
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,240
Speaker 4: was second in the league with total blocks last season

814
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 4: with one hundred and ninety. They outa who's number one

815
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 4: and the number that has to be it has to

816
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 4: be Windy, right, yes?

817
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 2: Yeah?

818
00:39:58,560 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 8: Four for win.

819
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 2: Here though crazy.

820
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Speaker 5: I think it's crazy that for as few people are

821
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 5: on planet Earth who are capable of being high level

822
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 5: NBA players at any given moment in time, there are

823
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 5: fewer people capable of being high level gms. Like I

824
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 5: don't understand how at any given point there's like two

825
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 5: to four guys that are like consistently you're like, how

826
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 5: the fuck did they do that? And it's the combination

827
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 5: of knowledge of the you know, contracts players, the CBA,

828
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 5: and which one of these other gms is a rotten

829
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 5: too that I can just push over right now, And

830
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 5: it's this really it's this really cunning mix of skills

831
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 5: and Sam Presty's that I mean, like, how many times

832
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,240
Speaker 5: do you end up going Wow, that's sort of insane

833
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 5: that that worked out in their favor to that extent.

834
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Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, it's unbelievable.

835
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 1: I think also too, just like this is a this

836
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: is a weird opinion, but like I live here, this

837
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: is still very much a college football town, and I

838
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: think there's something to the fact that there's not a

839
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 1: lot of there's not this like insane amount of pressure

840
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: on Presty, and I think that that is like really

841
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: important because how many times have you heard about like

842
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 1: ownership wants to win now or whatever. And he was

843
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 1: given the ability to rebuild on his terms, and then

844
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: by doing so, he accumulated all this shit and now

845
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: he's just like a king in every room, like he

846
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: has the leverage in every single room he's in and

847
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: I am somebody who likes to respect people's jobs and

848
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: stuff like that, but that Chicago move was is one

849
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: that I am like, why not?

850
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 3: Uh?

851
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, didn't didn't the local paper in Oklahoma City like

852
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 5: have to apologize to Katie for suggesting that he had

853
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 5: missed a shot in the fourth quarter? So what was

854
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 5: the headline, Tyler?

855
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 2: YEA, wasn't it?

856
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Like Barry Drammell was the writer. Yeah,

857
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,280
Speaker 1: he's he's a he's an old school dude.

858
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 5: But like you said, the environment there is such that

859
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 5: it was like the paper printed like I thought they printed,

860
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 5: like the editorial board apologized or something that it was

861
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 5: like we should not criticize mister Durant, Like.

862
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 6: Well, and now most of the media are like home grown.

863
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: Oklahoma's like one of my funniest things that he's going

864
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 1: to kill me for calling this out.

865
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 6: I don't care. Andrew Slet did you guys know him?

866
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: Uh?

867
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 6: He does. He does down to Dunk.

868
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: He's a writer for the Thunder for Athletic The New

869
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: York Times is the Athletic and he was he was

870
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: in the playoff hype video being like Thunder.

871
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 6: I was like.

872
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 11: Yeah, and I gave him to his face. But that

873
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 11: is the environment that Oklahoma City is in. Media is

874
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 11: in the hype video, right.

875
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 5: The writers should just there to say this dude didn't

876
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Speaker 5: this guy who works at this store did not wear

877
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 5: the shirt. He didn't wear the fucking shirt.

878
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly.

879
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Speaker 5: The uh okay, what else? Well? Okay, you guys brought

880
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 5: up Wemby, and I definitely wanted to talk about Chris

881
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 5: Paul to the Spurs because it feels like such a

882
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 5: great melding of something Chris Paul could stomach with this

883
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 5: stage of his career and a legitimate, great developmental piece

884
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Speaker 5: for Wemby. How do you guys feel about this? I

885
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 5: don't think it vaults them into like a top, you know,

886
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 5: but I just think it's great for Wemby's development, which

887
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 5: I think we're all kind of invested in in a

888
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 5: in a peripheral or primary way. What did you guys

889
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 5: think of the Chris Paul of the Spurs move?

890
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 2: Oh? I love it. I love it.

891
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 4: Like I said, it's not a move that you're like, oh, oh,

892
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 4: watch out for these Spurs, you know, but it's it's

893
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 4: I felt like the lack of lobs that Wemby was

894
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 4: getting last season was maup fucking practice, right. And it's

895
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 4: so simple. You see a seven foot five guy rolling

896
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 4: to the to the basket. Don't have mother fuck up there,

897
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 4: you know, like like Randy Mos said, just chuck that

898
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 4: motherfucker up there, dog. But and you know, I think

899
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 4: Chris Paul is the best lob throwing point guard I've

900
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 4: ever seen in my life. I think he's gonna be,

901
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 4: you know, really really really good in that capacity. I'm

902
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 4: very much looking forward to, you know, him and Wimby

903
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 4: being together. But but you know, Chris Paul's at that

904
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Speaker 4: stage in his career where he's just the old guy

905
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 4: who's gonna teach these these youngins how to win right,

906
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 4: how to play the right way, right, Like, that's that's

907
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 4: the game plan here. And I wouldn't be surprised if

908
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 4: after if this is his last stop and after that

909
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 4: he'd like, you know, tries some transition to maybe you know,

910
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 4: an assistant or some front office with san Antonio.

911
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 8: I can sure see him going that path.

912
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a long term play, I think.

913
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 3: So like I'm moving to Spurs just so I can

914
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 3: get into the front office here, you know what I mean.

915
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 2: That makes sense.

916
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: I am a massive, massive Chris Paul fan, and uh

917
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: like talk about a guy who just career doesn't match

918
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: the narratives around him and in some ways, so this

919
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:56,240
Speaker 1: was kind of like nice to be like, it feels

920
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: like he made this move for for reasons outside of

921
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: like ring chase, you know, and that that I wonder

922
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: if that's like going to allow him to like even

923
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 1: play a little bit more free and and.

924
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 6: I don't know, I don't know.

925
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: I'm like really happy that he did this because I

926
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a lot of fun to watch.

927
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Speaker 1: And I just think, I don't know, I mean, that's

928
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: got to get so annoying when when it's just that's

929
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 1: all it's about, and it's like not to get all weird,

930
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 1: but you know, basketball is about a lot more than that,

931
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: and it feels like he's choosing something beyond just constantly

932
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: trying to like ring Chase.

933
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 3: He's choosing a chance to get to play basketball freely,

934
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, enjoyed last season or well,

935
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 3: And from.

936
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Speaker 5: A legacy perspective, if you're talking about ring chasing, also,

937
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 5: if Wenby turns into what it looks like he's going

938
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 5: to turn into it, would be a pretty cool thing

939
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 5: to be a part of the process of unlocking that

940
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 5: right of laying down a blueprint for like get someone

941
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 5: in with this skill set and this dude is going

942
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 5: to be a.

943
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Speaker 2: Fun by another Chris Paul, you know what I mean.

944
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, but also, like he's he's been on record

945
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: saying that you're in oak in the city that he

946
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: had where the expectations are pretty damn low, and the

947
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 1: fact that they did sort of what they did, and

948
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: that like he's on record to say like that was

949
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: his most enjoyable, like one of his most enjoyable seasons

950
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: of basketball, And maybe that's what he's after a little

951
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: bit is just sort of like less pressure. Maybe we

952
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: can find something and if we do, everyone's on our

953
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,479
Speaker 1: side and it's super fun and it's great.

954
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Speaker 5: Last topics, we got about two minutes before we get

955
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 5: to get out of here. The Celtics have officially kept

956
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 5: effectively their entire roster intact and are also being sold,

957
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 5: which is like one of the weirdest situations ever. Can

958
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 5: any of you fan fiction a way into giving me

959
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 5: some optimism that the Celtics aren't just gonna steamroll everyone

960
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 5: next year?

961
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 4: I think they're for show coming out the East, right,

962
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 4: you know, I think the Knicks are going to be

963
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 4: their only challenge. I think the Knicks can win the East,

964
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 4: but I would still bet on the Celtics. But yeah,

965
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 4: you know, like I said, I'm I'm kind of interested

966
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 4: in what Okay so He's gonna do in the West.

967
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 4: That's why I'm really keeping my eye on this upcoming season.

968
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Speaker 3: And I feel after getting over that hump, you just

969
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 3: play a little like the ship that caused it to

970
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 3: have the turnovers and whatnot, and you know, the nerves.

971
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 2: It seem that they were playing with the times.

972
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 3: I don't know if that stays, you know what I mean,

973
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 3: you've done it before, you know you can do it again.

974
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 2: I guess a good Dallas matters team.

975
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 3: So like, yeah, bro, I feel like I think they

976
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 3: would be better mentally, and I think that was the

977
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 3: only issue.

978
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 2: It definitely wasn't skills.

979
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 6: So yeah, that that was that was it. I mean,

980
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 6: I don't know that there's only hope.

981
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: I can't want. I want them to lose so badly,

982
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: and I just.

983
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 5: The only hope we have to buy the Celtics. Guys,

984
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 5: that's our only.

985
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 2: Just to the to the most lucrative contract ever. I

986
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 2: don't know.

987
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: Hey, I don't like much about the Celtics, but I

988
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 1: really respect running up a bill and then being.

989
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 8: Like they about for like three hundred and eighty million.

990
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 4: It's for sure of myself, for like six seven billion,

991
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 4: I might be low balling it, like I.

992
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 5: Think, I think it'll I think it'll end up being

993
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 5: like ten. That's my that's my that's that's my feeling.

994
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 5: It will be one of those like sign posts they

995
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 5: even Woes or whoever whoever announced it even did the

996
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 5: like one of the most lucrative sports brands on the planet.

997
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

998
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 5: And it's with the current media environment, with the way

999
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 5: the team is set up to potentially win multiple championships

1000
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 5: going for you literally have the entire fucking team back

1001
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 5: Like yeah, I just think, uh, And you know, they

1002
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 5: got the new stadium, like they have everything that you

1003
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 5: that drives the value up. They have all of that,

1004
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 5: including the brand name. So and it's the Celtics. It's

1005
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 5: not like the Cubs where they said the Cubs got

1006
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 5: less valuable when they won, you know, Like it's the

1007
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 5: Celtics like they're set up in one of those.

1008
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1009
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,919
Speaker 5: Fuck two and a half billion each, Tyler. I feel

1010
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 5: like you can get there. You know, all you need

1011
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,720
Speaker 5: is like ten thousand dollars follower.

1012
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 4: We start the ten billion dollars fund meat go right

1013
00:48:58,960 --> 00:48:59,760
Speaker 4: after this episode.

1014
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,280
Speaker 2: That's right, all right, that's.

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Speaker 5: All the time we got on jameson Jones. Thanks to

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Speaker 5: everyone for hanging out with us in the chat. Jason,

1017
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Speaker 5: thanks for making the time. We really appreciate it, and

1018
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Speaker 5: we'll see y'all. We're off the rest of the week

1019
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 5: for Fourth of July or for for uh for uh yeah,

1020
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Speaker 5: we don't celebrate this for We're off for nameless holiday.

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Speaker 6: We're all.

1022
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 2: Hot Dog Day, gotta be a little christy, and we're off.

1023
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Speaker 5: For burn hot Dog Day. We'll see y'all Sunday night

1024
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:28,760
Speaker 5: for our next House of Dragon's recap.

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Speaker 2: Bye bye bye

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Speaker 5: The volume