WEBVTT -  Raj Subramaniam

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<v Speaker 1>One of the most legendary corporate founders of a company

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States the last fifty years was Fred Smith.

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<v Speaker 1>He started FedEx. When he got ready to retire, he

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<v Speaker 1>picked one of his four hundred thousand employees to succeed him.

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<v Speaker 1>The employee is Raj Subermnium, who is an Indian immigrant,

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<v Speaker 1>a graduate of Syracuse and somebody had a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>sit down with recently to talk about what it's like

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<v Speaker 1>to run FedEx and to succeed the legendary Fred Smith.

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<v Speaker 1>So in the old days twenty five years ago or so,

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<v Speaker 1>if I wanted to send a letter overnight make sure

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<v Speaker 1>it got there, I would do a FedEx and you

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you package it up and you send it

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<v Speaker 1>and we get there the next day. But today, with

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<v Speaker 1>the Internet, do you really have many letters going overnight

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<v Speaker 1>to people?

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<v Speaker 2>No? Letters A very very small piece of the business.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think you sent some letters, so thank you

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<v Speaker 2>about that. But it's if you open up our airplanes

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<v Speaker 2>and look at them, if you imagine you can fill

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<v Speaker 2>it up with letters, that's a lot of letters. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's actually, you know, we move the high value economy

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<v Speaker 2>of the world. In fact, last year we moved roughly

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<v Speaker 2>two trillion dollars worth of goods across the world, and

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<v Speaker 2>there are pharmaceuticals, aerospace, defense, in textiles. You just think

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<v Speaker 2>about the ones. The value per pound of something is

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<v Speaker 2>very high. They usually go in our system.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you envision your business growing in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>more customers. You've got a pretty good business already. Where

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<v Speaker 1>are you going to take a market share from ups

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<v Speaker 1>or from new entrance to the field.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think the market itself is growing, and I think,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I feel like our industry, what we do

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<v Speaker 2>as an industry is pretty significant and somewhat you know,

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<v Speaker 2>underappreciated actually because it's been taken for granted, especially now

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<v Speaker 2>in this day and age. What we do as an industry,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it is like I said, two or three players

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<v Speaker 2>that we have is I think there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>value and within that, I think the market itself is

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<v Speaker 2>going to grow. The opportunity for players who really have

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<v Speaker 2>standout capabilities to know this is now significant. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think I'm confident in our value proposition that we can

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<v Speaker 2>compete very effectively and win share as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And how many trucks do you have delivering all these things?

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<v Speaker 2>We have two hundred thousand motorized vehicles around the world.

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<v Speaker 1>And are you going to have many trucks that are

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<v Speaker 1>driverless at something.

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<v Speaker 2>We already have and we are you know, working with

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<v Speaker 2>a partner in Texas where we have autonomous driving being

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<v Speaker 2>tested and we'll see how that goes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well there's the packages get there quicker.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, no, it's the same speed. The important thing is

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<v Speaker 2>the infrastructure we already have. We have six hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>thirty eight facilities right on the highway, so we can

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<v Speaker 2>go facility to the facility on the highway and then can

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<v Speaker 2>be human driver. So that is important component of this

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, you don't I don't think we are

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<v Speaker 2>yet able to see an autonomous truck driving down the

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<v Speaker 2>street outside here.

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<v Speaker 1>How is your business going to change with AI? Is

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<v Speaker 1>AI going to make it easier harder for your business?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's going to be great because the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>I told you we have two petabytes of data every

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<v Speaker 2>single day. We'll realize back in twenty twenty that the

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<v Speaker 2>data as we generate is a valuable asset on its own.

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<v Speaker 2>So we had gone about, you know, really engineering and

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<v Speaker 2>creating a platform using our data and creating a digital

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<v Speaker 2>twin of fed X and then comes the revolution in

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<v Speaker 2>AI and then suddenly that now we're able to use

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<v Speaker 2>that AI to now supercharge our data. So of course

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to use to improve our efficiency, our network

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<v Speaker 2>efficiency and so on. That's that's great, we'll do that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's the base layer, but we're also using it to

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<v Speaker 2>differentiate and create new value for our customers so they

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<v Speaker 2>ship more packages. And when they ship more packages, they're

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<v Speaker 2>no AI delivering packages. That's the more jobs. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>last year we've added about twenty nine thousand jobs in America.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we're also looking at how do we use

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<v Speaker 2>the insights that we have to orchestrate global supply chain,

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<v Speaker 2>So we're you know, there's opportunity for us to leverage

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<v Speaker 2>the inst that we have from our data and do

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<v Speaker 2>different things with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now with all the data that you have, you've got

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<v Speaker 1>as much data as much to any company. And where

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<v Speaker 1>the US economy is, do you see a recession anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>in the near future.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm more optimistic. There's a stealth industrial growth in this

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<v Speaker 2>economy that's coming up, and we're seeing growth in the

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<v Speaker 2>B to B sector. We'll see how it goes, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we if you go back from September twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two to the next three and a half years,

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<v Speaker 2>the industrial the Ism index was down pretty much thirty

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<v Speaker 2>five or thirty six months. It was a very tough time.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think we're starting. You know, there's probably some issues.

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<v Speaker 1>I say, I have a package I want to deliver

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<v Speaker 1>it to the Middle East right now? Can you deliver

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<v Speaker 1>packages in the Middle East because of the war going

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<v Speaker 1>on there or do you is that a problem for you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, short answer as we can. We have a large

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<v Speaker 2>hub in Dubai and obviously we can fly FedEx airplanes

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<v Speaker 2>into Dubai or we have an operation into Riad, so

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<v Speaker 2>those things, no, we can't fly. But we have now

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<v Speaker 2>using other carriers to move traffic in and out of

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<v Speaker 2>Middle East as operational, but not the same way that

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<v Speaker 2>it was before.

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<v Speaker 1>So today, what do you want to accomplish the most?

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<v Speaker 2>We have changed our focus very clearly, and when we

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<v Speaker 2>had to invested ate back in February, you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>laid out goals of four percent revenue growth, which is

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<v Speaker 2>you know, modest by historical standards, but something again focused

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<v Speaker 2>on those high value verticals, but generate you know, fourteen

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<v Speaker 2>percent bottom line growth because of o Kager because of

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<v Speaker 2>the transformations that we're doing and generate you know, six

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<v Speaker 2>billion dollars of free cash flow. So that's our financial

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<v Speaker 2>those are our financial anchors that we are for.

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<v Speaker 1>So I noticed that when you are sometimes you have

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<v Speaker 1>brought the pandas to the National Zoo and you've shipped

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<v Speaker 1>some act Is that a for profitable business shipping? Those?

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<v Speaker 2>They are the VIPs very important bandits. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this is something that we have done for some time

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<v Speaker 2>now and because we can do it. You know, we

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<v Speaker 2>have done I think fifteen or so pandas and we're

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<v Speaker 2>looking at another one from Atlanta as well. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>something that we do and we have you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>have actually the delivery of the plane. It's called the

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<v Speaker 2>pandex for us.

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<v Speaker 1>And you do other animals likes or things like.

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<v Speaker 2>That, well, you know, we used to do animal charters

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<v Speaker 2>the way before, but right now this is this is

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<v Speaker 2>a more let's call it diplomatic move.

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<v Speaker 1>What is the biggest challenge that Wall Street sees you

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<v Speaker 1>as having as the company. What Wall Street analysts are

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<v Speaker 1>always wanting more revenue, more profits? What does Wall Street

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<v Speaker 1>mostly say that you should be doing that You're not

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<v Speaker 1>yet doing.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, some of the investors are frustrated about you know,

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<v Speaker 2>lack of generation of free cash flow for example. But

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<v Speaker 2>you have to have investments capital to get the network

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<v Speaker 2>that we've built so far. So the fact that we're

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<v Speaker 2>here and we're turning a corner and then, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not anticipating at this point and going to Moon

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<v Speaker 2>or Mars. You know, we have this planet pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>covered and the investments that we need are more incremental.

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<v Speaker 2>At this point, I think that realization is starting to

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<v Speaker 2>sink in, and so maybe the frustration is starting to

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<v Speaker 2>ebb some somewhat, and I think we also have the

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<v Speaker 2>job to do then to put points on the board

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<v Speaker 2>and demonstrate success on a consistent basis on this foundation,

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<v Speaker 2>I think we'll be all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go through how you became the CEO. So where

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<v Speaker 1>were you born.

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<v Speaker 2>I was born in India, in a small state of

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<v Speaker 2>Kerala right on the southern so the Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>And were you you always interested in distribution as a boy.

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<v Speaker 2>Or something or I didn't. I wouldn't know what that was. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I was very straightforward, you know, middle class childhood focused

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<v Speaker 2>heavily in luckily for me, education plus sport, sport is

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<v Speaker 2>very important in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>So were you in a big athlete or something?

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<v Speaker 2>I was pretty good. You were in cricket, cricket and

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<v Speaker 2>badminton and athletics. Everyone knew good education was a ticket

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<v Speaker 2>to success.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're in India, in the Florida of India, and

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<v Speaker 1>you decide you want to go to a cold weather college, Syracuse.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you wind up at Syracuse? A very good school?

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<v Speaker 1>But how did you wind up there?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, first of all, you know, you have to you

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<v Speaker 2>have to imagine a world where there was no Google

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<v Speaker 2>or information was let's say, much scarcer. So there was

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<v Speaker 2>a well worn path you go. You know, in India,

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<v Speaker 2>you know there's some you get into the indianstry of technology,

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<v Speaker 2>very competitive school and once you're through that, there is

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<v Speaker 2>usually a path to get a scholarship to come to

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<v Speaker 2>America and you just get all you get, really information

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<v Speaker 2>is about rankings of top twenty schools in America, and

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<v Speaker 2>Syracuse wasn't in the top twenty four chemical engineering at

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<v Speaker 2>that time. I got a scholarship. Well, two ranks below

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<v Speaker 2>which also got a scholarship was Florida. So and I

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<v Speaker 2>learned because this was two ranks about I took Syracuse

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<v Speaker 2>and Garomberg going to the councilate in Mumbai or Bombay

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<v Speaker 2>at that time, and the lady says, you know it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be cold over there, and I said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>cold whatever, And now you're at Romberg. I had not

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<v Speaker 2>seen temperatures below seventy five degrees in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Had you ever seen?

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<v Speaker 2>So when I got this, no, no, no chance. So

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<v Speaker 2>I got to Syracuse. The first day, I'm walking to school,

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<v Speaker 2>it was seventy degrees in sunny and everyone's telling me

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<v Speaker 2>a nice day, and I'm freezing. So it went downhill

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<v Speaker 2>from there.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you ever consider transferring when you saw?

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of kind of crazy because by the time

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<v Speaker 2>the next six months came around, my blood was thick

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, in the forty five degrees, I

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<v Speaker 2>was in my T shirt today. Actually I can deal

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<v Speaker 2>with cold pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you graduated, did you say I want to

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<v Speaker 1>be the CEO of FedEx or what did you want

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<v Speaker 1>to do?

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<v Speaker 2>When I joined FedEx in ninety one and I barely

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<v Speaker 2>knew Memphis, I didn't know anybody in Memphis. If someone

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<v Speaker 2>had told me that this is the job I would

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<v Speaker 2>be doing, then I would have set out a much

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<v Speaker 2>better chance to play for the Indian cricket team.

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<v Speaker 1>So how did you get the job? You just interviewed

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<v Speaker 1>for a job after college?

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<v Speaker 2>Again, my MBA I was in. I was in campus

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<v Speaker 2>in Austin, Texas. It's kind of a story around it too.

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<v Speaker 2>I was. So I came home one afternoon and my

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<v Speaker 2>apartment made was on the phone and he's basically in

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<v Speaker 2>the ones. Now, I can't do that, you know, he

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<v Speaker 2>was leave us, leaving the country. So I said, who's

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<v Speaker 2>on the phone? He said, that's fed X. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>they're you know, coming to campus. Won't to interview him

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<v Speaker 2>and so, but he's not going to be there, So

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<v Speaker 2>I said, give me the damn phone, you know. So

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<v Speaker 2>I call over and I say, uh, you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>just talked to my roommate. But he's not done to

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<v Speaker 2>me there. But I'm going to be here. Can I

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<v Speaker 2>faction him my resume? I said him already said okay,

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<v Speaker 2>come on over for the interview. So, now this was

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<v Speaker 2>a time when recession was pretty you know, pretty deep

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<v Speaker 2>in ninety one. And also I didn't have a green

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<v Speaker 2>card and that's all that's big that had become an

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<v Speaker 2>issue from other interviews. So when I got to the interview,

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<v Speaker 2>my euphoria had already come back down again. So I

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<v Speaker 2>see these two gentlemen, very nice people, across the table,

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<v Speaker 2>and I say, I didn't say good morning, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>say hello. I said I don't have a green card.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, if that's a problem, then you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to waste your time or mine. And they

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<v Speaker 2>look at me like, what is this is a strange kid,

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<v Speaker 2>and say, son, let's first figure out whether you have

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<v Speaker 2>what it takes to do a job at FedEx, and

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<v Speaker 2>let's worry about the paperwork.

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<v Speaker 1>And then so I got hired, and that's his history.

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<v Speaker 1>What was your job?

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<v Speaker 2>I was the associate marketing analyst for international marketing at FedEx.

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<v Speaker 2>So it can go lower for the staff.

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<v Speaker 1>Position now, all right, so you what year was that?

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<v Speaker 2>That was ninety one, all right?

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<v Speaker 1>So you work your way up over a series of

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<v Speaker 1>jobs and eventually you became the president or chief operating officer.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, in twenty nineteen, I was the presidency of.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so your president COO and Fred Smith, the legendary founder,

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be there forever. People thought, did he

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<v Speaker 1>call you one day and say, guess what I want

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<v Speaker 1>you to be my successor.

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<v Speaker 2>One day he calls over and says, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>Los Angeles tomorrow. I've looked at your calendar. You're doing nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>I want you on the plane with me. And so

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<v Speaker 2>it was I think the day before Valentine's Day or

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it was. So I'm there, you know, and then

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<v Speaker 2>he so he walks into the plane and we're going.

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<v Speaker 2>Even before he sits down, in turns on and says,

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<v Speaker 2>so would you like to be the president and CEO

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<v Speaker 2>of FedEx? And I'm looking at him. I'll be honored, sir,

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<v Speaker 2>And he sat down for the next because we can't

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<v Speaker 2>get out anymore because no, we've got a four and

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<v Speaker 2>a half our flight.

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<v Speaker 1>So you became the president and COO. And then how

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<v Speaker 1>many years later before hecame the CEO.

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<v Speaker 2>It's three years.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you become the CEO. You say that. Fred, Look,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a nice company you built, but I want to

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<v Speaker 1>make some changes, dramatic changes. Was that hard to do

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<v Speaker 1>because you made a lot of dramatic changes.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Fred was very very clear about this. This is

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<v Speaker 2>the greatest thing about Fred. And I mean, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just going to count myself one of the very

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<v Speaker 2>very fortunate persons in the planet that I have spent

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<v Speaker 2>so much time with him. It was very very clear

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<v Speaker 2>that once the mantle shift is over that okay, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll give me all the input you want, but the

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<v Speaker 2>decision making was mine. That meeting with him lasted about

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<v Speaker 2>two minutes, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you became the CEO, one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>you did was to focus on profitability. And one of

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<v Speaker 1>the ways you did that is you began to, I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>consolidate some of the divisions. Can you explain there were

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<v Speaker 1>four divisions at FedEx.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we were set up in a way to

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<v Speaker 2>operate independently with multiple operating companies and also multiple networks.

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<v Speaker 2>So four parts, right, FedEx Express, FedEx Ground, FedEx Freight,

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<v Speaker 2>and we had FedEx Office things like that, but three

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<v Speaker 2>main companies. The main thing was in the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>There was the reason why it was set up this way.

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<v Speaker 2>And again we talked about, you know, we were started

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<v Speaker 2>off in the air express business. When the ground parcel

0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:15.840
<v Speaker 2>business we were tiny at the turn of the century.

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<v Speaker 2>We were only ten percent market share, so we had

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<v Speaker 2>to make inroads and we need to be a differentiated play.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's what you know. You know, it took we basically,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, grew our market share for many, many, many

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<v Speaker 2>years in a row. But the profile of the traffic

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<v Speaker 2>was changing and we needed to consulate our networks. So

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<v Speaker 2>that was the impetus. It was. It was an evolution, really,

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<v Speaker 2>and so the time had come to do that, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think there was any debate whether we should

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<v Speaker 2>do it down, you know, so we started moving in

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<v Speaker 2>this direction. So we consolidated networks, consolidated the operating companies

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<v Speaker 2>into one FedEx, and we were you know, this is

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<v Speaker 2>a lot a long cross.

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<v Speaker 1>So the consolidations occurred, and I think the market capitalizations

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<v Speaker 1>up about sixty three percent. The stock is upset seventy

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<v Speaker 1>three percent, but the revenues are roughly flat.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it's that's not the way it works. Because at

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<v Speaker 2>the turn of the twenty nineteen, before the pandemic, we

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<v Speaker 2>were about sixty nine billion dollars in revenue. The next

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<v Speaker 2>two years we grew twenty five billion. So he got

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<v Speaker 2>ninety four billion, Okay, then it went down to eighty

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<v Speaker 2>eight the shadow of the pandemic, and now we're back.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you say you're back, yes, but if you

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<v Speaker 2>should look at the longer picture. We've grown about five

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<v Speaker 2>percent cagre since about twenty nineteen, or six percent cares

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<v Speaker 2>for us. Part of the culture that Fred drilled into

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<v Speaker 2>a brain is that change is the only constant and

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't like change, you will absolutely hate extinction.

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<v Speaker 1>Fred Smith always said that they fed Ox employees were

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<v Speaker 1>like part of his family, and it was a Berlick

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<v Speaker 1>family atmosphere. What do you do to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>people feel like they're part of a family organization and

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<v Speaker 1>part of a company that's really doing something useful for society.

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<v Speaker 2>High performance team, that's what he would say. And we

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<v Speaker 2>are always a people first company. In our philosop is

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<v Speaker 2>crystallize in people's service. Profit you take care ever your

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<v Speaker 2>people that provide outstanding service for our customers would generates

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<v Speaker 2>profit for a company. We invest back in our people.

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<v Speaker 2>This unending circle is what has been guiding FedEx from

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<v Speaker 2>the very very good go and it's not a ethereal theory.

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<v Speaker 2>In a service business. We have five hundred thousand team

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<v Speaker 2>members around the world. The difference between those five hundred

0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:25.280
<v Speaker 2>thousand team members doing just enough not to get fired

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<v Speaker 2>versus doing an outstanding job for our customers and in

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<v Speaker 2>delivering what we call our prople promise. That's the difference

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<v Speaker 2>between failure and success. And so this philosophy is embedded

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<v Speaker 2>into all of us. And a great thing about FedEx

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<v Speaker 2>also is that this culture prevails globally. Anywhere in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you go, The language of the country may be different,

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<v Speaker 2>but the language of FedEx is the same that I've

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<v Speaker 2>told and I promise for for sure. We may hire

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<v Speaker 2>a new get new people, buying new companies, new technology,

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<v Speaker 2>but the culture ain't going to change. That's that's what's

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<v Speaker 2>guiding us going forward.

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<v Speaker 1>Parents are in their early nineties and did they call

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<v Speaker 1>you and say they're proud of you?

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<v Speaker 2>They're very, very proud and they could not have imagined

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<v Speaker 2>anything close close to this. Uh. And so my dad's

0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:16.159
<v Speaker 2>advice always to me is keep working out, keep working out,

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<v Speaker 2>don't let them down, So keep moving.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and what about your children? Are they proud of

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<v Speaker 1>what your much?

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<v Speaker 2>They are? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>So when you are introduced to people, you're people say

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<v Speaker 1>you're the CEO and you're the are the CEO of

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<v Speaker 1>Are they surprised that somebody that came from India is

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<v Speaker 1>running this company that is legendarily built by Fred Smith.

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<v Speaker 2>I was introduced as this minister from an African country.

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<v Speaker 2>He just could not digest this fact. It was like

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<v Speaker 2>it was like double tack and triple tech. You are

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<v Speaker 2>the CEO, you are the global CEO. So there is

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of that sometimes. But I think you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's not it's that's meant me rare, rare at

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<v Speaker 2>this point.

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<v Speaker 1>So what do you do when you're relaxing if you're

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<v Speaker 1>not you know, looking for you know, where your package

0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:11.359
<v Speaker 1>was or something like that. What are you doing from

0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:14.040
<v Speaker 1>a package you never have to look for you? No?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think for me, I mean at this point,

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<v Speaker 2>either family time or tennis. That's kind of you're a

0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:24.560
<v Speaker 2>tennis you're a tennis player, so that's my meditation as

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<v Speaker 2>well as a relaxation.

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<v Speaker 1>And do you ever play with like, have your employees

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<v Speaker 1>you beat them? I assume you can beat them pretty readily.

0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:34.960
<v Speaker 2>No, it's I do we actually have Memphis of course,

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<v Speaker 2>you know there's a lot of FedEx folks and so

0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:39.440
<v Speaker 2>we play, but nobody gives me a quarter. Listen, I

0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:41.720
<v Speaker 2>can assure you that they're not giving up. In fact

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<v Speaker 2>that I would be upset if they did.

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<v Speaker 1>Fred Smith came up with this idea years ago, and

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<v Speaker 1>obviously it's built a big business and so forth. But

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<v Speaker 1>are you worried that some young Fred Smith somewhere else

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<v Speaker 1>is going to come up with something that replaces your business.

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<v Speaker 2>For us, part of the culture that Fred drilled into

0:18:56.600 --> 0:19:00.320
<v Speaker 2>a brain is that change is the only constant and

0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:04.160
<v Speaker 2>if you don't like change, you will absolutely hate extinction.

0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:11.760
<v Speaker 2>And so we are constantly with that mantra in place. Now.

0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:16.520
<v Speaker 2>Having said that, the physical network that we have in place,

0:19:16.560 --> 0:19:18.400
<v Speaker 2>and I keep repeating to this, is you can pick

0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:21.600
<v Speaker 2>it up a package or shipment from any one part

0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:23.640
<v Speaker 2>of the world and get it to any other part

0:19:23.640 --> 0:19:26.240
<v Speaker 2>of the world. It's taken us fifty three years to

0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:30.960
<v Speaker 2>build this incredible network that is going to be very

0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:34.480
<v Speaker 2>very difficult to replicate. So unless someone is inventing it

0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:38.840
<v Speaker 2>being me up Scotty machine and you know, moving through ether,

0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:41.600
<v Speaker 2>this is going to get very very difficult replicated. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think there are certain things that are clear modes

0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:47.520
<v Speaker 2>for us. But then the question for us is how

0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:50.320
<v Speaker 2>do we innovate and change, continue to keep that energy

0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:51.560
<v Speaker 2>up and move forward.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So, today, if somebody wants to get a

0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:56.680
<v Speaker 1>job at FedEx and rise up. What's the best way

0:19:56.720 --> 0:19:58.560
<v Speaker 1>to get a job at fed X these days?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it is, it depends on what job you want

0:20:02.320 --> 0:20:06.880
<v Speaker 2>and your gradational you know, that's not open right now.

0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:12.520
<v Speaker 2>So but I think starting off at FedEx if it's

0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:15.600
<v Speaker 2>at an operational side of the house. You know, obviously

0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:17.399
<v Speaker 2>we hire a lot of people every single day. Like

0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:20.040
<v Speaker 2>we said, we had twenty five thousand on the last year.

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<v Speaker 2>And the great thing is a lot of people who

0:20:22.040 --> 0:20:24.960
<v Speaker 2>start around as frontline careers, we had a fantastic career

0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:27.919
<v Speaker 2>and in fact, you know, several of them rise to

0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:30.600
<v Speaker 2>executive level positions in this company and there's a long

0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:33.800
<v Speaker 2>history of that. And then of course the staff jobs

0:20:33.880 --> 0:20:36.640
<v Speaker 2>as well, because I feel we're in a very exciting

0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:41.200
<v Speaker 2>time period here and the and that's and the words

0:20:41.240 --> 0:20:44.200
<v Speaker 2>getting around. So the interest level is actually as increasing,

0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:47.680
<v Speaker 2>and whether it is you know, you know, whether it's

0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:51.800
<v Speaker 2>different functional jobs or especially in technology and the ability

0:20:51.800 --> 0:20:55.400
<v Speaker 2>for FedEx to leverage what we have today and have

0:20:55.480 --> 0:20:58.200
<v Speaker 2>a different view on how we can leverage technology to

0:20:58.280 --> 0:20:59.920
<v Speaker 2>drive a eye. So we are getting a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>interest in FedEx for that.

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<v Speaker 1>As I mentioned earlier, stock is up about seventy three

0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:09.159
<v Speaker 1>percent since you took over, So you know, probably you

0:21:09.200 --> 0:21:11.240
<v Speaker 1>can't do much better. So would I be better not

0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:12.880
<v Speaker 1>to buy the stock now, would you say?

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<v Speaker 2>Or No? I think that's not the way to look

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<v Speaker 2>at it. It's yeah, you've got to look at it

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<v Speaker 2>from what's coming next?

0:21:21.160 --> 0:21:23.719
<v Speaker 1>And so what are you going to do to make

0:21:23.720 --> 0:21:24.440
<v Speaker 1>it even more proper?

0:21:24.720 --> 0:21:27.000
<v Speaker 2>I think so. I think there are financial goals I

0:21:27.000 --> 0:21:30.280
<v Speaker 2>told you are pretty very exciting, but also most importantly achievable.

0:21:30.640 --> 0:21:33.679
<v Speaker 2>The transformation that's underway at FedEx today, whether it is

0:21:33.720 --> 0:21:37.840
<v Speaker 2>our network transformation that's the organizational transformation, or digital transformation,

0:21:38.400 --> 0:21:41.080
<v Speaker 2>those are really livers for us and we can create

0:21:41.160 --> 0:21:45.360
<v Speaker 2>a new businesses on which layers on on top of

0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:48.600
<v Speaker 2>our existing physical business in a way. And so it's

0:21:48.680 --> 0:21:50.560
<v Speaker 2>very exciting. We're all excited at FedEx and we think

0:21:50.600 --> 0:21:51.320
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot more to go.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you spend your time as CEO?

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<v Speaker 2>I've thought about it carefully because I know the first

0:21:56.040 --> 0:21:59.160
<v Speaker 2>year was like I mean, I realized that the most

0:21:59.200 --> 0:22:02.320
<v Speaker 2>important as that I have is time. So I actually

0:22:02.400 --> 0:22:04.160
<v Speaker 2>sat down and thought about and said, what's my job?

0:22:04.440 --> 0:22:06.760
<v Speaker 2>And so one, of course is the guide the strategic

0:22:06.760 --> 0:22:09.080
<v Speaker 2>direction of where the company is headed, make sure I

0:22:09.160 --> 0:22:11.680
<v Speaker 2>have the right set of people around me to execute,

0:22:12.080 --> 0:22:14.360
<v Speaker 2>have an execution framework, but not get involved in every

0:22:14.400 --> 0:22:18.880
<v Speaker 2>aspect of execution, and represent the company well internally and externally.

0:22:19.400 --> 0:22:21.440
<v Speaker 2>And once I kind of got clarified in my own

0:22:21.520 --> 0:22:24.359
<v Speaker 2>mind that this is what my job is, then I

0:22:24.359 --> 0:22:27.560
<v Speaker 2>actually went through my calendar and I just very disciplined,

0:22:27.680 --> 0:22:30.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, put back and God's you know, some stef segment.

0:22:30.920 --> 0:22:33.240
<v Speaker 2>I would say, about three or of the five days

0:22:33.240 --> 0:22:33.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm traveling.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, what's the most enjoyable part of your job?

0:22:36.760 --> 0:22:41.399
<v Speaker 2>Oh, by a wide margin, is actually interacting with the FedEx.

0:22:41.160 --> 0:22:42.879
<v Speaker 1>Team members, not interviewing like this.

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<v Speaker 2>That's quite a second. Maybe, No, I think it's a

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<v Speaker 2>it's a it's a team members. It just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>really it's an incredible set of uh tam. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>matter where you're in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>And what's the least enjoyable part because we are in

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<v Speaker 3>every part of the world and very kind of you

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<v Speaker 3>know these days, I got to get up in the

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<v Speaker 3>morning and say a little prayer before you look on

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<v Speaker 3>my phone, so you know, because I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't know what's happening, and so that you know, just

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<v Speaker 2>the unpredictability.

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<v Speaker 1>Of it now, you met your wife at FedEx.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just in the same timeframe and she joined FedEx

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<v Speaker 2>what's six months before we got married.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you had to be in FedEx employee to be

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<v Speaker 1>married or yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Other way around. I need to have a job before

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<v Speaker 2>she married me.

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<v Speaker 1>You are now sixty years old, yes, sixty, You have

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<v Speaker 1>virtually no gray hair. Why is that?

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good That's a secret that's going to remain

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<v Speaker 2>with me.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, maybe you could whisper to me later. I've done

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<v Speaker 1>a great job for your shareholders and your employees. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure Fred would be very proud of what

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<v Speaker 1>you've done.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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