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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on Home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolly here

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Speaker 1: with Matt Williamson. And if if you listen to the

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Speaker 1: previous segment of the Drive, you heard are the top

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Speaker 1: thirty two from Daniel Jeremiah, Todd mcshae and Mel Kiper.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna keep it rolling. We're gonna push past those

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Speaker 1: top thirty two. I think this will be more interesting.

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Speaker 1: This is where you see some more very Yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: more very variables here. Uh so let's jump right into it.

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Speaker 1: Of course, the draft of being starting on Thursday, real quick.

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Speaker 1: One of my favorite things of the draft is the

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Speaker 1: second day one ends and everyone starts clamoring who's the

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Speaker 1: best guy on the board, who's trade up for you?

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Speaker 1: Who's the number one pick? Now? Well, that's going to

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Speaker 1: be some of these guys, right and some of these

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Speaker 1: guys that we talked about right here may find themselves

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Speaker 1: in the first round resolutely. And I could see maybe

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Speaker 1: a Jaman Davis who we mentioned the last show them.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he's that guy at thirty three year you know.

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Speaker 1: Uh for Mel, number thirty three is Dueen Eskridge. I've

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Speaker 1: been hearing more and more that he is a slam

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Speaker 1: dunk second rounder. He's really good. He's really good. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's not much different than I mean of

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Speaker 1: the of the little If you could pick him or

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Speaker 1: could Darius Tony, Yeah, yeah, there's a conversation, right um

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Speaker 1: thirty three for Jeremiah's Joe try On. He's slipping, he's

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Speaker 1: moving back up the boards. He kind of fell by

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Speaker 1: the wayside. I think in the draft process earlier so

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Speaker 1: much draft, but we've talked not much of him. Would

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Speaker 1: you consider him the second round for the Steelers, Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm not looking for a starter that outside line. I

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Speaker 1: think the positions work. I think he'd be a Bud

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Speaker 1: like player. Yeah, I think he could be. Yeah. Uh

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Speaker 1: thirty three four McShay is leam Eikenburg like, he's a solid,

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Speaker 1: double solid. Yeah. I think everyone in the world, including

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Speaker 1: me when we redid it when the Ravens made their

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Speaker 1: trade their second first round pick, I ken Burg just

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Speaker 1: plug him in at the right tackle or guard and

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Speaker 1: he'll last somewhere. Notre Dame Lyman hit uh thirty four

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Speaker 1: for Mela's Avin Collins, little low, little low on Zaven

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Speaker 1: Collins thirty thirty four for Jeremiah Nick Bolton, and if

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Speaker 1: Collins started falling into like forty, I'd give up a

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Speaker 1: future pick to move up, you know. Uh Nick Bolton

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Speaker 1: the thirty four for Jeremiah. I watched him again recently.

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Speaker 1: He's too much like Vince Williams. To me, that's what

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Speaker 1: he's I don't have a problem having that kind of player.

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Speaker 1: He's not very good in coverage. Yeah that's the problem

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Speaker 1: as well. But he's not great in coverage. Now, maybe

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Speaker 1: he gets he's not gonna play right away. I don't

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Speaker 1: you know you would play if you've got him and Vince,

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Speaker 1: You're gonna play him behind Vincent. He could learn from

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Speaker 1: Vin Williams and maybe get better. He's a hammer. I

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Speaker 1: mean he plays hard. He's also short. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think you need somebody. I don't think he's a stealer.

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Speaker 1: Thirty four four McShay is Assante Samuel. I see that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's he He's another solid, preferably zone corner.

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Speaker 1: We can also play inside. And there's you know, the

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Speaker 1: pedigree and all that good stuff. Chance. Sorry, he doesn't

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Speaker 1: bust on you. Thirty five four mel is Lyndon Dickerson.

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Speaker 1: He has the first, that's the first center that's that's

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Speaker 1: been mentioned. Thirty five for Jeremiah's Jalen Mayfield. That's early

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Speaker 1: for me. To thirty five four mcshaye is Javonte Williams.

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Speaker 1: That's it for the backs. Yeah, right right, there'll be

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Speaker 1: the only ones in the top that's as low as

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Speaker 1: the backs of right there. That's interesting. Thirty six for

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Speaker 1: mel is a Zzoli a little late. That's a little lever,

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Speaker 1: a little bit of medical questions, but not super bad

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Speaker 1: here he is now here. At thirty six for Jeremiah

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Speaker 1: is Tevin Jenkins. I just don't see that happening. I

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Speaker 1: think he's a first rounder all day. I mean, how

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Speaker 1: did how do the Ravens pass on him? Like you said, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I can't. Thirty six for mcshay's Ronnie Perkins. That's the

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Speaker 1: first time he's been meerchant good football player. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he could be there in the second round with the Steelers,

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Speaker 1: I don't think in the same conversation. Yeah. Uh. Thirty

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Speaker 1: seven four mel is Jason Owa. That's broy the lowest

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Speaker 1: the story, but I I don't know. Yeah. Thirty seven for

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Speaker 1: might make a little bit of difference. Uh. And then

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Speaker 1: thirty seven for McShay is Joe try On. Okay, it's interesting.

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Speaker 1: We haven't heard cos Me yet. Thirty eight four mel

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Speaker 1: is Diane Brown. He's I think he's the second rounder too.

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Speaker 1: Keep here and that if since he doesn't take Jamaar,

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Speaker 1: Chase will probably take Brown at the early second you know,

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Speaker 1: like that neighborhood. Thirty eight for Jeremiah is Christian Derris Saw.

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Speaker 1: That's really low below Radden's below, just Tevin Jenkins below

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Speaker 1: Jaylen Mayfield. That has to be I don't see that personality,

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Speaker 1: some kind of something off the field that he's hearing,

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Speaker 1: But there's a good player. Jeremiah has four tackles there

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Speaker 1: in that early second day. Get Mayfield, Tevin Jenkins, Radden's

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Speaker 1: and dry Saw all on that that's on accident range. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think there's there is a I like Jenkins and

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Speaker 1: Derrissaw obviously better than he does, but I do think

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Speaker 1: there's a line of delineation there between those top couple

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Speaker 1: of tackles and the next next group was derrisaw still

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Speaker 1: stands out to me from that group, and again, Jenkins

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Speaker 1: would be my fourth, but there could be something wrong

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Speaker 1: with them, but we don't know. Yeah, good, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, yeah. Thirty eight four McShay is Jason Oah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they that's the last of the other ways. Then, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's done. Thirty nine for mel Is Gregory Rousseau. D

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Speaker 1: think that's the neighborhood. I think he's an early second

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Speaker 1: to a bad team at these past. Thirty nine for

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Speaker 1: Jeremiah is Sante Samuel Okay makes a ton of sounds.

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Speaker 1: Thirty nine for McShay is Dylan Raddin's Okay. I don't

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Speaker 1: think Rattin's is there in the second round for the steal, No,

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. Yeah. Forty for mel Is Ronnie Perkins.

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Speaker 1: That's twice he's been mentioned pretty early. Second rounder. Forty

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Speaker 1: for Jeremiah's Landing Dickerson. Yeah, that's what I said. It's

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Speaker 1: a lot easier to take him in round too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're not taking the center with with knee issues in

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Speaker 1: the flip a corner with back issues. It's different than

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Speaker 1: a quarterback with issues. You know, there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: centers in this draft and is he a thousand times

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Speaker 1: better than all the other ones? No, No, forty four

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Speaker 1: McShay is Nick Bolton. Okay, we talked about him little bit.

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Speaker 1: Forty one four. Everybody loves this guy, and I just

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Mel has two to out well at forty

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Speaker 1: one five five pounds, and you can say, and he's archer,

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Speaker 1: but is he gonna run out routes? Is he gonna

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Speaker 1: run slants? Everybody says, well, you know, look at what

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Speaker 1: Kansas City does with but Tyreek Hills so much bigger

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Speaker 1: than Tyree Hills a fifth round draft pick, too thick,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean they're not even close. Um, and

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Speaker 1: he's really dynamic, but he's not much different than Tony

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Speaker 1: or I mean, there's he says't you know he compares

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Speaker 1: well to Marquise Brown. Great, Marcus Brown has done deadly

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Speaker 1: pooh in the in the NFL, not deadly pooh, but

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Speaker 1: he's not been Brown. Well, I mean, I guarantee you

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Speaker 1: if the r if you gave the Ravens truth here

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Speaker 1: and they would say, we probably shouldn't have taken him

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Speaker 1: in the first round. No, I don't think they'll take

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Speaker 1: just don't see it with that well at all, dude,

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Speaker 1: it's too little. Yeah. Yeah. Forty one for jeremiahs Rashod Bateman.

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Speaker 1: That's as low as you've seen him. Forty one for

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Speaker 1: McShay is Tyson Campbell. That's the first week I mentioned

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Speaker 1: Georgia Corner. Yeah. Interesting. Uh. Forty two from mel is

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Speaker 1: A Mauri Rogers pretty high. There's the slot receivers in

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Speaker 1: this draft where the money's at, Like there there are

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Speaker 1: in as many outside guys, but there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: those guys who can play the slot. Yeah. I think

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Speaker 1: he's a little different than them too, because he's thicker,

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Speaker 1: he's a bigger slot, he's a six ft slot. He

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Speaker 1: can break tackles a little more than some of those guys,

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Speaker 1: certainly more than that. Well. Uh. The forty two for

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Speaker 1: Jeremiah's Peyton Turner, that's the first time we've heard his name.

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Speaker 1: Defensive end or the edge out of Houston. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean I can see like Dallas taking him in the

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Speaker 1: second round or you know, good size, good trades. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Forty two for mcshae is levi Ow and Zurik. That's

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Speaker 1: only the second time we've heard his name the second tackle. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Forty three for mel Is Dylan Raddin's. Yeah, he's going

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Speaker 1: in that, he's going to earlyst he'll be gone by

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Speaker 1: early second day. Yeah. Yeah. Forty three for Jeremiah's Christian Barmore.

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Speaker 1: That's that's the second defensive tackle he had open Zreeky

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Speaker 1: higher than that. Uh. And then forty three for McShay

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Speaker 1: is Carlos Basham first, we've heard his first, we've heard

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Speaker 1: his name. He can bump inside. He's a big guy.

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Speaker 1: I had some people ask me about him for the

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Speaker 1: Steelers on East six to seventy four. He's more of

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Speaker 1: a four three end. I agree. I'm not sure Bud's

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Speaker 1: much different physically, but run Buds freaky or athletically and explosive,

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Speaker 1: and people don't remember what Bud's bro to Combine was

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Speaker 1: like we're five six, Yeah, like a forty somethings from

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Speaker 1: I mean he's raised an athletic freak. Uh. Forty four

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Speaker 1: from mels A Sante Samuel that's the last. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: as low as he's been, as low as he could go.

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Speaker 1: Forty four for Jeremiah's Ronnie Perkins. Another one that's wrapping

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Speaker 1: up here in the mid second round. Forty four for

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Speaker 1: McShay is two to at well of all these receivers,

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Speaker 1: like I think as grade over at Well. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's a bunch of guys that I'd rather have it

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Speaker 1: get it. U Forty five for mel Is Jalen Mayfield, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I think he's a bit of a project, probably a

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Speaker 1: second rounder. Forty five for Jeremiah Quinn Miners earliest we've

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Speaker 1: heard that. Last we've heard d name. Forty five for

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Speaker 1: mcshay's Landon Dickerson. But this is that this is the

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Speaker 1: that area, this is where it sets up. Forty six

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Speaker 1: for uh there's some land mines for the Steelers to

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Speaker 1: get a center around two absolutely absolutely. Forty six for

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Speaker 1: mel Is is Peyton Turner, we talked about him. Forty

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Speaker 1: six for Jeremiah's pet Friarmouth. I don't know that he's special.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a little bit of misconception stereotype that

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Speaker 1: he's this great blocker. He's not. He doesn't want they

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Speaker 1: never they never asked him to do it. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if he can block or not. To be honest

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Speaker 1: with you, I mean, he's big and physical, but that

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean a good blocker. Forty six for mcshays Terris Marshall.

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Speaker 1: But this tight end class things, Yeah, I mean there's

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Speaker 1: just that I keep passing on tight ends in my

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Speaker 1: mock drafts and people like, well, you're not getting the

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Speaker 1: tight end like sign one. Yeah, just sign one and

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Speaker 1: hope next year's draft. But you're not getting a plug

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Speaker 1: and play tight end unless you're draft Kyle Pitts anyways. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I get him. Yeah, No, I think they can be

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Speaker 1: all way over drafted to UM seven for mel Is

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Speaker 1: Hunter Long. He he's not a great blocker, but in

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Speaker 1: a tight end it's kind of like the defensive tackle conversation.

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Speaker 1: If he went around where the Steelers pick in the

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Speaker 1: second round, I'd be like, I get it. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: take him in side wouldn't either. I think he's the

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Speaker 1: third round pick. Yeah, I do too. Forty seven for

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Speaker 1: jeremiahs Liam Likekenburg a little low. Yeah, he's got really

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Speaker 1: a leap of faith. Uh. Fifty two for Jeremiah's Tommy Tremble,

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Speaker 1: Fifty four for Jeremiah's cars, basham, okay, fifty four four

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Speaker 1: thing to put a finger on with backs, but he

415
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Speaker 1: can subtle moved. Yeah, I think he has some of that,

416
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Speaker 1: but those bigger backs, just at the NFL level, history

417
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Speaker 1: shows that unless they're really special terms, I'm sure, but

418
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Speaker 1: he would be my consolation prize if you don't get

419
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Speaker 1: one of the big three, but a third round, I

420
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Speaker 1: can get a second, right, No, not in the second

421
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Speaker 1: oud Uh, he's got Robert Rochelle again, another one of

422
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Speaker 1: those slots. I think, absolutely, how about this? This is

423
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Speaker 1: how I've I've seen this guy this entire time. Ben

424
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Speaker 1: Mason out of Michigan at one thirty. He's a football player.

425
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Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna like he's a football player. I mean I

426
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Speaker 1: can see the Niners, the Ravens, guys that use like

427
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Speaker 1: multifaceted odd full backs. He could be a Patriot. I

428
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Speaker 1: just wonder if he could play, if he could play

429
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Speaker 1: tight end. He's six two to fifty. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how well he catches. I don't I don't care. I've

431
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Speaker 1: never watched. Then he could be in my move tight

432
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Speaker 1: end and go, hey, go hit somebody. Yeah, you know

433
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Speaker 1: he can do that. I mean short yardage, You're gonna

434
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Speaker 1: st touchdowns with him in the game. You know, he

435
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Speaker 1: looks like a Raven Shamara. Jean Charles at one six.

436
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Speaker 1: That's the State kid. I think he's gonna go a

437
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 1: reasona be hind too. He would be a good stealer too.

438
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Speaker 1: I think you could be a nice project. He's got

439
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Speaker 1: Kendrick Green at one thirty seven. He's a little lower

440
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Speaker 1: on the centers I think than the other guy, which

441
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Speaker 1: makes sense. I mean you can get good value with Yeah,

442
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,239
Speaker 1: there's a lot of centers in the draft. I mean

443
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Speaker 1: a Stanford kid. I mean we haven't mentioned he's got

444
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Speaker 1: dominant one fifty. That's the last guy on his list.

445
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Speaker 1: Just looking here. Jeremiah has Myers at fifty seven, Jabril

446
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Speaker 1: Cox at fifty eight. He's got Michael Carter fifty nine.

447
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Speaker 1: That's scream second round. He thinks he's going to the

448
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Speaker 1: second round. Molden's at sixty Samuel cosed me all the

449
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Speaker 1: way down to sixty one for Jeremiah. I mean, if

450
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Speaker 1: you're like Buffalo or Tampa and you don't get a

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Speaker 1: t N Carter makes sense. Yeah. Leatherwoods at sixty two

452
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Speaker 1: for Jeremiah. It's like Drew Dolmon all the way up

453
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Speaker 1: at sixty three for Wood in the second round. If

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Speaker 1: I was the stealers, yeah, I mean, I wouldn't have

455
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Speaker 1: a problem with that. Dolman's a guy. He's kind of

456
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Speaker 1: like your fallback option if you don't get one of

457
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Speaker 1: those other guys. He's from Stanford. You know, he's smart.

458
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's an athlete. He's his own blocking type guy.

459
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: Dad was an NFL player. Yes, Yeah, he's gonna he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a starter in this league. Oh, no doubt

461
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Speaker 1: about it. Yeah. Pete Warner at sixty four. He's got

462
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Speaker 1: Baron Browning. We didn't heard his name at all. He's

463
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Speaker 1: got him at sixty five. Who do you prefer the two?

464
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Speaker 1: There's some differences. There's some differences Warners. Warner has been

465
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Speaker 1: the more productive player over the course of his career.

466
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Speaker 1: Browning is more of the splash play guy. He's the

467
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Speaker 1: better recruits. Yeah, you know, it looks better walking in

468
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Speaker 1: the door, right, But I don't think he has the

469
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Speaker 1: reading react like I think Warner next to Devin Bushes.

470
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Speaker 1: So that's what you want, Like Bush is your big playmaker.

471
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, Warner might call the

472
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Speaker 1: defense for years. Yeah, that's what you're looking You don't

473
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Speaker 1: need two guys who are It's nice that they both

474
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Speaker 1: make splash plays on a regular basis, But if if

475
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Speaker 1: one of the guys is missing, yeah, I mean he

476
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Speaker 1: can rush off the edge though. Yeah. Uh, Jeremiah has

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Speaker 1: Spencer brown at sixty six. He's got Brady Christensen at

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Speaker 1: sixty seven. Uh, he's got Ron Dalmore all the way

479
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Speaker 1: down at seventy. Ellen McNeil's a guy we didn't talk

480
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Speaker 1: about there and the whole thing. Seventy one for him

481
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Speaker 1: for Steelers, he's my favorite. Yeah, he's kind of a

482
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Speaker 1: nosy yeah. Yeah, but if a Lulu didn't resign, then

483
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Speaker 1: I'd be in that market. Now you're not. He's got

484
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Speaker 1: Milton Williams at seventy two, Ellerson Smith at seventy three.

485
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Speaker 1: It's you can talk about. He's got sar Ratted down

486
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Speaker 1: at seventy five, Walker a little at seventy six. Um,

487
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Speaker 1: Walker a little in the third round could vanish, or

488
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Speaker 1: we might all say, man, we should roll the dice.

489
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Speaker 1: I had no clue what to do with him. He's

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Speaker 1: got Zeke McPherson at eighty five, another one of those

491
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Speaker 1: slot corners. Traft is loaded with these slot cornerbacks that

492
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Speaker 1: you know in that third round range, that which means

493
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Speaker 1: I bet you get one in the fourth, right, somebody's

494
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Speaker 1: somebody's gonna be available. Yeah. He got Joseph Style the

495
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Speaker 1: way down at eighty eight. Pretty low. We but yeah, yeah,

496
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Speaker 1: it's pretty low. Um. He's got Escridge down at ninety four.

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Speaker 1: Escridge was at Mels the top thirty two. Yeah. I mean,

498
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Speaker 1: you can see why somebody would like some of the

499
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Speaker 1: other slots over him, But I think he's doing a

500
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Speaker 1: second round. Jackson Carmen at nine six, Hudson at ninety seven. Uh,

501
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Speaker 1: Derek barn Derek Barnes, he's a favorite. I'm I'm a

502
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Speaker 1: big Derek Barnes fan. I think he could play. I

503
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Speaker 1: might take Barnes around later than Browning. Yeah, you know

504
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Speaker 1: what I mean for the for what it costs. Uh

505
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Speaker 1: Deante Smith at a hundred for him. Uh Trey brown

506
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Speaker 1: Is at one oh four, Kendrick Green one oh five,

507
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: Malcolm Kunson one oh six for him, So he's moved

508
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: up the boards a lot. Kendrick Green in the fourth

509
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Speaker 1: round or maybe even the third. Monty Rice at one

510
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Speaker 1: oh nine. I don't know. He plays as fast as

511
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Speaker 1: he times. I think he needs some more seasonings. So

512
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Speaker 1: if you if you can take him and have him

513
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Speaker 1: sit on the bench for a year, maybe play play

514
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Speaker 1: special teams for you, and then year two he's ready

515
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Speaker 1: to go. Yeah, he's a fourth rounder for me that

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure I can use a Day two pick. Yeah.

517
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Speaker 1: I think I took him in my Day four. He

518
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: was my fourth throng guy. Perfect. Trey Sermon is one

519
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 1: eleven for him. I think you probably have to use

520
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: a third. But yeah, for the Steelers there he's a third.

521
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Speaker 1: That's again rich me. He's got Rochelle down at one fourteen.

522
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Speaker 1: I like that. Yeah. Um, he's got Andre Cisco down

523
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Speaker 1: at one seventeen. There's some hits, there's some hitt and

524
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Speaker 1: Miss Sarah. That's he has some crazy tape both ways, right.

525
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: Patrick Johnson is up to one four for him. I

526
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 1: think he'd be a really good Steeler. He reminds me exactly.

527
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: He's like watching high Smith. Yeah, there's a lot there

528
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,959
Speaker 1: to like real quickly here with with McShay, he has

529
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Speaker 1: walk a little. He has Quinn Miners at sixty one,

530
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Speaker 1: Walker Little at sixty two, different too much on miners.

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Speaker 1: He's got Kyle Trask at sixty five, Mon at sixty seven. Uh,

532
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Speaker 1: Chris Rumps at sixty nine for him, So he's rising. Yeah.

533
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Speaker 1: McNeil is at seventy. Uh, Aaron Robinson down at seventy

534
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Speaker 1: four for him, Spencer Brown at seventy seven, Sermons at

535
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Speaker 1: seventy nine for him. We've seen it. Yeah, Um, Michael

536
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Speaker 1: Carter's at eighty three, so he has sermon a sermon

537
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Speaker 1: a head of Carter. None of them mentioned gain well

538
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: or maybe he just didn't matter. I haven't seen him

539
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: on here at least of the Steelers. Tiny think again

540
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: better he's maybe it's just the third down back. I

541
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: think he is, but I think he catches a lot

542
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: of balls in this league. He has Trumble at ninety three. UM,

543
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: Pete Warner at nine. I think if you got Pete

544
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Speaker 1: Warner in the third round, Steeler fans will be happy.

545
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: Sean Wade at one oh one, UM, Josh Meyers at

546
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: one oh six for him. Marco Wilson at one oh eight.

547
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: That's as high as we've seen him. Upside is enormous. Yeah,

548
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: may Jayla Mayfield all the way down at one twelve

549
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Speaker 1: for him. Todd, that's guts by Todd. Yeah, because he's

550
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: gotten so much first round buzz months ago. Yeah wow.

551
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Speaker 1: Robert Rochelle again at that range for him. Maybe a

552
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Speaker 1: third yeah, Monty Rice for him comes in a one nineteen.

553
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: There's a lot of linebackers and corners and it's really

554
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Speaker 1: d third fourth. Ernest Jones, who we talked about from

555
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: South Carolina comes in and seven. He's a little too

556
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: thumper ish, old school for me. Right, Yeah, I hear you.

557
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: But that at Trey Brown at one. So that's where you,

558
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Speaker 1: you know, I think you start to see it. That third,

559
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Speaker 1: fourth round is where you get that slot cornerback, yeah,

560
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: and maybe a linebacker and maybe a linebacker. There's some

561
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: depth there, and it's easier said than done. And we

562
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Speaker 1: had this conversation last segment to if you could somehow

563
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Speaker 1: trade down to get one more pick in that neighborhood. Yeah,

564
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Speaker 1: that would be wonderful because that's a sweet spot. There

565
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: would be one every time I think that the sus

566
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Speaker 1: on the clock, you and I are gonna be going, well,

567
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Speaker 1: there's five guys until we get to the sixth round. Yeah, right,

568
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Speaker 1: right right, But yeah, I'd love you one more guy.

569
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Speaker 1: And even if he got a guy in, even if

570
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Speaker 1: he got a fifth round pick, he somehow recoup that,

571
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: that would be nice. One more pick from I don't know, Yeah,

572
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: it would find a good use for that. Yeah, no

573
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Speaker 1: doubt about it. But that's gonna do it for this segment.

574
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Speaker 1: I thought it was really interesting to go through those

575
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Speaker 1: the three UH rankings from those guys who were considered

576
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Speaker 1: at the top of the top of the industry. But

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Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for this show. So for my

578
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Speaker 1: partner Matt Williamson, for Jacob Rick here on site, I'm

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Speaker 1: Dale Lally. We thank you for listening to this edition

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Speaker 1: of the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio