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Speaker 1: Cover two, episode nine oh four, and it starts now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 1: Poona Baker, What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: He's at the ten half of five. He's it again

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Speaker 1: some more Hurry Magic whow Here's Craig Grioler. So before

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Speaker 1: promoting this weekend's episode of Birdwatch and the photo that

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Speaker 1: you posted of s'mores and making s'mores here within State

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you just search s'mores or Paul

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Speaker 3: Big time impact player Omar Craig and I are pretty

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Speaker 1: Well, it is always a pleasure to speak with you.

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Speaker 1: Glad you could make time for us once again. Enjoy

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Always fun to catch up with Omar, though as

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Speaker 3: and I agree with Omar saying that it's the fewest

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Speaker 3: questions between the Rams and the Cardinals compared to what

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Speaker 3: the forty nine ers and the Seahawks have been experiencing

440
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Speaker 3: this offseason, and the answers the questions are going to

441
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Speaker 3: have to answer and prove themselves. So, yeah, it's not

442
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Speaker 3: great here and how competitive and how great the Rams

443
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Speaker 3: are looking, I will tell you that much, Craig. But

444
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Speaker 3: it's the truth, and you have to respect what Matthew Stafford,

445
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Speaker 3: what Sean McVay, Pukunakua, everybody has done the last couple

446
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Speaker 3: of years out in LA. So it's going to be

447
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Speaker 3: some fun competitions, even more fun because Cardinals don't face

448
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Speaker 3: the Rams until late in the year, and then they

449
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Speaker 3: face them twice in off the top of my head,

450
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Speaker 3: four weeks, three or four weeks.

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Speaker 1: I believe it's correct.

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Speaker 3: So it's even the league as a whole is seemingly

453
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Speaker 3: expecting some good competition between the Cardinals and Rams late

454
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Speaker 3: this season, and a lot.

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Speaker 1: Can change and quicker than some and we saw that

456
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Speaker 1: earlier on Sunday, the news was broken by ESPN's Adam Schefter.

457
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Speaker 1: Cornerbacks Darling Thomas Terris is ACL head coach Jonathan Gannon

458
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Speaker 1: confirmed that Star is done for the season. And before

459
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Speaker 1: we get into the next man up mentality and what

460
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Speaker 1: happens next, just a word about Star, because one great person,

461
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Speaker 1: two great player, easy to root for. Giving his backstory

462
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Speaker 1: released by the lines claimed by the Cardinals, I think

463
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Speaker 1: found himself a home here. He certainly has played very

464
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Speaker 1: well and as JG mentioned, was going to be on

465
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Speaker 1: this team. We talk about question marks within that cornerback room.

466
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Speaker 1: Startling Thomas was written in permanent ink as far as

467
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Speaker 1: JG was concerned in I think many people. But now

468
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Speaker 1: you lose him and you just hate it for the

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Speaker 1: person and hate it for the player.

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Speaker 3: What was your stat on the starts for Thomas?

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Speaker 1: He had fifteen starts, played all seventeen games, played the

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Speaker 1: most defensive snaps among cornerbacks. So that is that is

473
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Speaker 1: the availability that you are losing when you lose.

474
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Speaker 3: Star as a person first and foremost, very few people

475
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Speaker 3: in that locker room that are kinder than Starling. Thomas

476
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Speaker 3: just a true gem to be around, very respectful, very

477
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Speaker 3: well mannered, very well spoken. He is just a joy

478
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Speaker 3: to interact with. I highly recommend checking out the Cardinals

479
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Speaker 3: overtime episode that our team put together this offseason, really

480
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Speaker 3: showing in depth what Thomas has had to go to

481
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Speaker 3: on a personal level. He tore his ACL in college,

482
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Speaker 3: he lost his mom, He battled back from those adversities.

483
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Speaker 3: He was not drafted, and he ended up in Detroit,

484
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Speaker 3: and when Detroit cut him, found himself with the Cardinals

485
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Speaker 3: and worked his way up to be a starter. It's

486
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Speaker 3: an incredible story, very inspirational. It's heartbreaking. You don't ever

487
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Speaker 3: want to see somebody get hurt, especially when they are

488
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Speaker 3: that kind of person right who brings such joy, So

489
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Speaker 3: it's tough. The fact that he has rehabbed in ACL

490
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Speaker 3: before should help immensely mentally, not necessarily physically, but mentally

491
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Speaker 3: knowing that he can get through the trials and tribulations

492
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Speaker 3: that will arise because he has done it before and

493
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Speaker 3: he has come out on top. As a player, huge loss.

494
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Speaker 3: I mean, Gannon said that Thomas was going to have

495
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Speaker 3: a spot on the roster where things stand today, he

496
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Speaker 3: was going to to be a starter again. Rookie Will

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Speaker 3: Johnson has only shown so much. I truly believe if

498
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Speaker 3: there were a game I can't say today, but a

499
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Speaker 3: game you know last week, it would have been Max

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Speaker 3: Meltain and Darling Thomas. As you're starting outside cornerbacks, to

501
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Speaker 3: lose somebody who has ascended and really shown some good

502
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Speaker 3: things the last year is a blow to this defense.

503
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Speaker 3: There's depth in that room, which is a good thing,

504
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Speaker 3: and you have you know, they're not going to say

505
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Speaker 3: they have high expectations, but there are high expectations for

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Speaker 3: someone who was as successful and dominating as Johnson was

507
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Speaker 3: in college, who many thought was going to be a

508
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Speaker 3: first round pick. And there's depth, and then you know,

509
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Speaker 3: then you start to, you know, go a little deeper

510
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Speaker 3: and you learn that cornerback Jane Davis also got hurt

511
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Speaker 3: hurt knee injury, so both Thomas and Davis have landed

512
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Speaker 3: on the injury reserve list. Gaining confirmed that Thomas will

513
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Speaker 3: not be making his return this season. However, Davis does

514
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Speaker 3: have the possibility to do so later on in the year.

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Speaker 3: It's a tough blow, not only you know as the

516
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Speaker 3: type of player you're losing, but also the teammates and

517
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Speaker 3: having to not have him in the room as somebody

518
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Speaker 3: that they can go out and play with on the field.

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Speaker 3: That's tough.

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Speaker 1: We heard from Max Meltin after practice and he called

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Speaker 1: Star the leader in that room. As far as without

522
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Speaker 1: Sean Murphy Bunting, he was the guy. And then it

523
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Speaker 1: became Star because SMB wasn't around. Now Star is not

524
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Speaker 1: going to be around. And you look at it. This

525
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Speaker 1: Cardinals team has lost its top two cornerbacks, its top

526
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Speaker 1: two starting cornerbacks from last season. So now you figure

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Speaker 1: out right and as Jag said, the business side of it,

528
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Speaker 1: it opens up a spot, and it does, and I

529
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Speaker 1: think we're all in agreement. Then you look at that

530
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Speaker 1: cornerback position that it was in no particular order, and

531
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Speaker 1: I always I don't include Garrett Williams in this, but

532
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Speaker 1: let's go Garrett Williams, Starling, Thomas, Max Meltain, Will Johnson.

533
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Speaker 1: There's four. Will you lose Star? So now you've got

534
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Speaker 1: at least three, and now perhaps if you keep six

535
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Speaker 1: like you did last year. You've got three openings and

536
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Speaker 1: it could means something for Elijah Jones, Key Troll Clark,

537
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Speaker 1: Denzel Burke, the fifth round pick from this past year.

538
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Speaker 1: They do have numbers. It's just a matter of Okay,

539
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Speaker 1: who steps up to say, all right, I need to

540
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Speaker 1: be a part of that rotation.

541
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Speaker 3: The cornerback's room was already going to be intriguing before

542
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Speaker 3: camp began because of the competition level and a lot

543
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 3: of youth and a lot of development that's going on there.

544
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Speaker 3: It's just as intriguing now because the first practice without Thomas,

545
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Speaker 3: which was Sunday, the day we are recording this, when

546
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Speaker 3: we saw team drills going on, it was Garrett Williams,

547
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Speaker 3: who was an outside cornerback quite frequently opposite of Max Melton.

548
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Speaker 3: We haven't seen that a lot in the last couple

549
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Speaker 3: of years. Williams has extensive experience as an outside cornerback.

550
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Speaker 3: He's just been a lockdown slot corner, so why would

551
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Speaker 3: the Cardinals have moved him outside if there was no

552
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Speaker 3: need to. That will be interesting to see what the

553
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Speaker 3: decision factor is moving forward. It's still early, so there's

554
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Speaker 3: a very good chance that things could stay the same

555
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Speaker 3: with Williams as your slot corner, and if rookie will

556
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Speaker 3: Johnson is able to step up in Starling Thomas's absence, Okay,

557
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Speaker 3: there you go, that's it. But when you start going down, okay,

558
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Speaker 3: maybe that's not the best decision, right, Maybe the best

559
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Speaker 3: decision to have, you know, your best eleven out there

560
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Speaker 3: means having Melton and Williams as you're outside cornerbacks, and

561
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Speaker 3: then do you throw in rabbit Taylor Demerson? Is your

562
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Speaker 3: safety as your nickel?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: What kind of options and fluidity is there going to

565
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Speaker 3: be for this Cardinals defense. That's something they are clearly

566
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Speaker 3: experimenting with the fact that we saw Williams taking more

567
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Speaker 3: snaps as an outside cornerback then, I can't even tell

568
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Speaker 3: you how many practices we've been watching.

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Speaker 1: It's been a lot, and maybe it's recency biased, but

570
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Speaker 1: it's been more than we've seen the first two years

571
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Speaker 1: under Jonathan Gann and Nick Ralis. So that was just

572
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Speaker 1: kind of our base three four alignments with just two

573
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Speaker 1: corners and two safeties. You bring in that third corner, then, yes,

574
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Speaker 1: it was Max and will as your outside corners, and

575
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Speaker 1: then your second team or key Trail Clark and Elijah

576
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Speaker 1: Jones for key Trail. That's someone that may have been

577
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Speaker 1: might have been on the bubble if everyone was healthy.

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Speaker 1: And then Elijah Jones, we really don't quite know what

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Speaker 1: he is capable of doing because he hasn't seen any

580
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Speaker 1: game action. He's hardly ever practiced. But was a Day

581
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Speaker 1: two pick who has great size, and I found myself

582
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Speaker 1: looking more at twenty eight to see what he was

583
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Speaker 1: doing because it's been a while. And then you like

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Speaker 1: those cornerbacks who are taller than six feet and can

585
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Speaker 1: be a little bit physical against a taller or as

586
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Speaker 1: tall wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: This is the opportunity to step up and show what

588
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Speaker 3: you've been working on, show what you're capable of. It's

589
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 3: still going to be a very intriguing room to see

590
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Speaker 3: how everything shakes out, especially because we've been spending this offseason.

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Speaker 3: When you're talking about the depth and the numbers, it's

592
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Speaker 3: a numbers game. If we've been saying, okay, well, you've

593
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Speaker 3: got so many young corners that you want to keep

594
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Speaker 3: on this roster and don't want to lose, maybe you

595
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 3: need to take an extra there. Maybe that's not the

596
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Speaker 3: case anymore. Maybe that opens up a spot for say

597
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Speaker 3: wide receiver, or defensive lineman.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you lose two corners on Sunday. The team

599
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Speaker 1: did sign a corner Steven Gilmore Junior, who played in

600
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Speaker 1: the UFL last season, was with the Lions in twenty

601
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Speaker 1: twenty three as an undrafted rookie free agent out of Marshall.

602
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Speaker 1: He has not appeared in an NFL game, and yes,

603
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Speaker 1: if the last name does sound familiar, he is the

604
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Speaker 1: younger brother of All Pro cornerback Stefan Gilmore. So the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals do, by the way, now lose to sign one.

606
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Speaker 1: There is an open roster spot as we speak here

607
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Speaker 1: on Sunday. It's going to get filled. I'm just curious

608
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Speaker 1: what position or is it something that we wait and

609
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Speaker 1: see because you're still waiting on Walter Nolan, the third,

610
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Speaker 1: Balal Nichols, b Jo Jilari and then knock on wood

611
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Speaker 1: that this is it because.

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Speaker 3: A few more times, because I.

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Speaker 1: Mean we've had Walter, JJ Russell and now Star Thomas.

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Speaker 1: It's a it's been an interesting not counting Sunday healthy Sunday,

615
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Speaker 1: but the first three days of practice there's been either

616
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Speaker 1: an announcement or a player has been carted off.

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Speaker 3: The fields hard. You're not even in pads yet, right,

618
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Speaker 3: so you're not even really having contact. And Thomas's was

619
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Speaker 3: a non contact injury. He came down from trying to

620
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Speaker 3: snag a ball that quarterback Jacoby Brissett had thrown away

621
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Speaker 3: and he just landed funny. And that's tough to a

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Speaker 3: certain extent. You have to be prepared and expect something

623
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Speaker 3: like that to happen. You don't ever want it to happen.

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Speaker 3: It's unfortunate, and hopefully this is the last of it.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully, But the pads do come on for the first

626
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Speaker 1: time on Monday, which is always good news. You want

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Speaker 1: that physicality. Hopefully everyone's day safe. But as we heard

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Speaker 1: from Monty, Austin Fords and Jonathan Gannon repeatedly this offseason

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Speaker 1: and even at the start of training camp, football doesn't

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Speaker 1: begin until the pads come on and you can really

631
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Speaker 1: evaluate a player and then a unit as a whole.

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Speaker 1: So that will happen for the first time on Monday,

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Speaker 1: and yes, Monday is an open practice. You do need

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635
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Speaker 1: twenty five.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna have I'm gonna leave marks in the grass

639
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 3: with my feet because I'm just gonna be stuck watching

640
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 3: offensive line and defensive line. I might sprinkle over to

641
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 3: see the wide receivers and the cornerbacks go ahead, ahead,

642
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Speaker 3: and then I'm running right back to the trenches.

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Speaker 1: I believe. I can't remember if it was on bird

644
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Speaker 1: Watch or a previous Cardinals cover. Did did you branch

645
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Speaker 1: you you're gonna bring a launcher? Oh?

646
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I did say that. Huh, you have a good memory.

647
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Speaker 3: You have a lawnchair at the bars. You're pretty close

648
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Speaker 3: to the stadium.

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Speaker 1: I am pretty close. I don't know. If I by

650
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Speaker 1: the way, what would the reaction be?

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Speaker 3: Not good?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Probably not?

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Speaker 3: Maybe with anch.

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Speaker 1: One of just a little small stools.

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Speaker 3: Those are embarrassing. No, but I will be stuck in

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Speaker 3: the ground. Yes, should have my binoculars.

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Speaker 1: If you're head of the State Farm Stadium on Monday

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Speaker 1: for the open practice, pay attention to the offensive lineman

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Speaker 1: defensive lineman because that will be must watch and it

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Speaker 1: will be very crowded because I'm guessing a lot of

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Speaker 1: the coaches and scouts will be in that area as well.

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Speaker 3: I think I'm really excited to see Paris Johnson junior

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Speaker 3: and defensive lineman Dalvin Tomlinson after Johnson. Hopefully they go

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Speaker 3: head to head. Johnson when he spoke with the media Sunday,

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Speaker 3: he hasn't really had a chance to go head to

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Speaker 3: head with Tomlinson. However, he's heard he is quote a

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Speaker 3: wall and he looks to be every bit of that description.

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Speaker 3: That could be a very fun matchup.

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Speaker 1: See Josh what in action against, whether that's Paris or

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Speaker 1: Kelvin Beacham or Jonah Williams. So it's yeah, this is this.

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Speaker 3: Week apartment viewing, this is appointment viewing.

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Speaker 1: This is this is a big week.

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Speaker 3: That's what I meant.

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Speaker 1: Hey, we knew what you were talking about. That out, Cody, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: edit that out coding and we'll be good. Yeah. So

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Speaker 1: this will be a long week, but a fun week.

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Speaker 1: I hope you got enough rest on Saturday because there's

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Speaker 1: no rest now until uh well, there's just no rest until.

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Speaker 3: February, and I'm working towards s'mores. That that's my first

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Speaker 3: my first patchmark of the week, and then I'll worry

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Speaker 3: about the rest of the week.

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Speaker 1: Just make sure you leave some Smores for the rest

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Speaker 1: of On that note, we'll put a lit on this

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Speaker 1: edition of Cardinals Cover two percented by Hyundai, probably partner

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Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our

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Speaker 1: executive producer Joe Mama Hunter, our associate producer Cody Fincher

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Speaker 1: for Danny Surrek. I'm pretty real, Lou. We'll talk to

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