1 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to a new episode of Earning Their Stripes, 2 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: our Marlin's Prospect show here on the Fish Stripes podcast. 3 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: I am Eli Sussman, managing editor at Fish Stripes, just 4 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: to set up the final episode of the minor league 5 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: baseball season. It flies by so fast, but we're hoping 6 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: to end it on a very high note with an 7 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: exclusive interview. It's Marlin's right hander Nick Knider, the reigning 8 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: Marlin's Minor League Pitcher of the Year, twenty two year 9 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: old right hander with impeccable commands, someone who entered this 10 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: year envisioning probably pitching in the majors. This season didn't 11 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: quite go according to plan, mainly because of a mid 12 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: season knee injury, but he has come back from it 13 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,839 Speaker 1: looking exactly as good as advertised, posting a two point 14 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: five to four ERA in the Triple A New Orleans rotation. 15 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: In August, he arrived to the Marlins in the de 16 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: Gordon trade along with Christopher Torres and Robert Dugger, a 17 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: trade looking great for the Marlins. As time goes on 18 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: and health permitting, we hope to see him in the 19 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: Arizona Fall League and then very early in twenty twenty 20 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: at the major league level, very bright future for Nick 21 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: Nider a very impressive man off the field as well. 22 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: This interview, conducted by our own Danny Martinez, him and Nick, 23 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: touch on a lot of different topics that we hope 24 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: you'll find very entertaining and interesting. And remember, if you enjoy, 25 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: just subscribe to the Fish Strivers podcast. Check back every 26 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: week for new episodes. Ets will continue even as the 27 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: regular season winds down. 28 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: Now joining the show is the Marlins twenty eighteen Minor 29 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: League Pitcher of the Year. One of the top pitching 30 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 2: prospects in the system, and if you ask me, from 31 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 2: my opinion, one of the top pitching prospects in all 32 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 2: of baseball, someone who I personally believe will be at 33 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: Marlins Park sooner rather than later. And one of the 34 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 2: nicest guys that I've ever met in a Marlin's uniform, 35 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 2: Nick Nier. 36 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 3: Nick, thank you for coming on, man. How are you 37 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 3: doing today? 38 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 4: I'm doing good. Thank you so much for having me. 39 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's always an honor when you guys come on. 40 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: Like I told you right before we started, whether it's 41 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 2: montery esan whoever the case is, it's exciting for the 42 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 2: fans to get to know the future stars of Miami, 43 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 2: and I really have little doubt that you're going to 44 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,119 Speaker 2: be a big piece of this future. I know you're 45 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 2: incredibly humble and you know you'll be modest about it, 46 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 2: but I'm excited for the fans to get to know 47 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: you a little bit. Now, I'm going to start with 48 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 2: a college football question. All right, it's college football, and 49 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: both of my co hosts this is a dangerous question. 50 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: Both of my co hosts are Florida Gators. Okay, so 51 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 2: I'm almost fearful to ask this. Yeah, but Nick, you 52 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 2: being born in Georgia, A do you follow college football? 53 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 3: And if so, who do you support? 54 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 4: I absolutely follow college football and I'm a die hard 55 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 4: Georgia Bulldog fan, So may me and the Gator fans 56 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 4: don't really get along to that well. Playing in Jacksonville 57 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 4: last year was was definitely interesting. You see a lot 58 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 4: of a lot of Gator fans around there, but diehard 59 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 4: Bulldog fan. And every single year, you know, it's just 60 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 4: like every college football guys says we're gonna we're gonna 61 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 4: win the whole thing. And I think we're gonna do 62 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 4: it this year. Yeah. 63 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 3: Absolutely, you guys have a good team. 64 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 2: Man, you guys have a good team and at the 65 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: end of the day, guys have a good program. Now 66 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: I am you wem right, So I have been humbled 67 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 2: with this defeat against the Gators. You can imagine how 68 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 2: this is going with my two co hosts being from 69 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: UF The group chat was not lovely in my favor, 70 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 2: But at least you get to have this interview with 71 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 2: the Hurricane and not with mister Gators over here. 72 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 4: Exactly. Yeah. 73 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 2: Absolutely, Before we go to baseball, this sport you actually played, 74 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: let me ask you a little bit more about being 75 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 2: raised and everything in Georgia and being a Dogs fan. 76 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 2: I believe that you actually were committed to the University 77 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 2: of South Carolina, and you correct me if I'm wrong 78 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 2: with that. But was there any any opportunity in high 79 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 2: school or just even as a childhood that you felt 80 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 2: you would be able to go to Georgia and play there. 81 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was committed to the University of South Carolina. 82 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 4: I actually was kind of torn between a couple couple 83 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 4: of decisions. There are places I wanted to go play at, 84 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 4: but at the time, South Carolina offered me and they 85 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 4: were one of the top teams in the whole entire country. 86 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 4: Georgia was going through a head coach and like front 87 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 4: office kind of changed with everything, so I wasn't sure 88 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 4: how that was going to play out. But South Carolina 89 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 4: was awesome. I mean, the facility there, the coaches, the 90 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 4: guys that were coming, and I saw I was like, 91 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 4: I was like, I gotta go here. We got a 92 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 4: real big chance to win the national championship. And that 93 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 4: school is incredible. I still loved the University of South Carolina, 94 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 4: but obviously when my Georgia Bulldogs play against them, I 95 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 4: gotta go with the Dogs. Ten times out of ten. 96 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: You go with the childhood man. Of course, I'm with you. 97 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 2: I'm with you, I'm with you, all right. So so 98 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: a big college football fan, a big Dogs fan, I 99 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 2: could appreciate that. Let's talk about the sport that you 100 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 2: are actually excellent at. In two thousand and eight, right, 101 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 2: it's your first year with the Fish, and the organization 102 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: honors the fact that you were just excellent, and then 103 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 2: you performed to the standing of the minor League Pitcher 104 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 2: of the Year for the for the organization. I wonder 105 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 2: what you felt at that first moment. I don't know 106 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,119 Speaker 2: if it was a call, if it was a coach 107 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: that told you at that first moment of hearing that 108 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 2: you were selected as the Minor League pitcher of the Year. 109 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 4: I was actually in a shoe store with one of 110 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 4: my buddies. We were just kind of walking around them 111 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 4: all killing time, and I got a phone call from 112 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 4: someone in the front office. They're like, hey, Nick Whitter, 113 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 4: what are you doing next week. I was like, I'm 114 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 4: just kind of enjoying my off season right now, and 115 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 4: he's like, like, well, we just made you Minor League 116 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 4: picture of the Year. So I mean I was. I 117 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 4: was in the middle of the store. My jaw dropped. 118 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 4: I was like, Oh, my gosh, this is incredible. And 119 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 4: obviously it's it's an incredible honor. It's it's something that 120 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 4: you know you take with you to the rest of 121 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 4: your career and the rest of your life that you 122 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 4: were an organization's pitcher of the year. And it was 123 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 4: absolutely incredible. We had a great time down in Miami. 124 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 4: The Marlins trade is fantastically when we were down there, 125 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 4: and it's just exciting you get traded over to someplace 126 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 4: and you ended up being their minor League pitcher of 127 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 4: the Year. The very first year that you're there. It's 128 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 4: it just shows that how much they really like you 129 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 4: and how much they appreciate what you which you did, 130 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 4: and the time enough that you put forth that season. 131 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean there was no doubt that you 132 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 2: deserved it. I mean, whatever that mindset must have been 133 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 2: when you came over, you you went straight to it. Man, 134 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 2: you performed, and you did. You had one of the 135 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 2: better years that a minor league pitcher in the Martin 136 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 2: system has had in a decade. 137 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 3: This a guy named Jose Fernandez. Really. 138 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 2: I mean, so it's it's it's an honor, of course, 139 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 2: and it's great that they felt that way of you, 140 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 2: but you absolutely deserved them feeling that way of you. 141 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 2: As you mentioned you, you know, you came over in 142 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: your organization. You're part of that Dee Gordon trade and 143 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 2: a lot of people forget that trade happened before even 144 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 2: the other major trades occurred, making you one of the 145 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 2: first major pieces in the rebuild. You know, no pressure, Nick, 146 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 2: but really one of the first major pieces. What kind 147 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 2: of excitement did you have coming over and how does 148 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 2: it feel to be such a big part of what 149 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 2: Miami sees as a future competitive team. 150 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 4: It was honestly incredible coming over from the Mariners. You 151 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 4: know they were they were incredible over there. Loved those guys. 152 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 4: But they told me I was going to an organization 153 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 4: that was in a rebuild and the fact that you 154 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 4: know in organization wanted me to be a part of 155 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 4: that rebuild. And they've been nothing but fantastic towards me, uplifting, encouraging, 156 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 4: through absolutely everything to be in one of their first trades. 157 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:13,239 Speaker 4: I mean, I knew the guys that they were getting 158 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 4: alongside me. I mean Robert Doug Chris Torres, I mean, 159 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 4: two incredible players Dougers already pitched in the big leagues 160 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 4: this year. I mean, it's incredible to be a part 161 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 4: of that, and to be a part of an organization 162 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 4: that really wants you to be up there in the 163 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 4: big leagues. And I mean I look around now at 164 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 4: all the guys that they're just building up, getting ready 165 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 4: for the big leagues, and I truly believe that in 166 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 4: the year and two years and three years whenever they 167 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 4: put this thing completely together, that we're going to competing 168 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 4: against the top teams all across baseball. And it's so 169 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 4: much fun just to be here and to be a 170 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 4: part of everything. 171 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, what's exciting is that you know, you aren't actually 172 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 2: the first player to come on here and say that 173 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: that same sentiment of as a player, I can see 174 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 2: what they're building. And it's not even you know, I'm 175 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 2: drinking kool aid. It's not that I have a company line. No, 176 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 2: I really believe it. I could see what's happening. Monte 177 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 2: said that, Isan said that a few of the other 178 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 2: guys reiterated that same exact sentiment. And it's funny because 179 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 2: you let me write into the follow up question, a 180 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 2: question which is that you are in a very particular spot. 181 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 2: I don't know if you ever sat back and thought 182 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 2: about this, but you have really gotten to see from 183 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 2: the beginning of this rebuild the farm system grow. You know, 184 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 2: when they first made that trade, the farm system was 185 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 2: still back half of any kind of external scouting site 186 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 2: ranking that you could find. And now we sit here 187 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 2: and it's top five in all of baseball, whether you're 188 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 2: looking at fan grabs, I believe it's seventh in Baseball America. 189 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 2: And you know that's all really more for the fans. 190 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 2: I'm sure that you guys don't think, oh yeay, great, 191 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 2: we're a top five farm system. But you could see 192 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 2: the talent around you. What does that do for you personally? 193 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 2: To be a part of so much talent, especially on 194 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 2: the mound. 195 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 4: It's incredible, honestly. I mean I came over last year 196 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 4: not knowing anybody, and everybody's talking, oh, you know, like 197 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 4: they're a couple of years out from ever doing anything. 198 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 4: And then you look at the organization this year and 199 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 4: I mean, guys are every guys everywhere. I mean even 200 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 4: players that you know, most fans don't even hear about. 201 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 4: I mean, every single person in this organization is incredible 202 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 4: and they see the opportunity that's in Miami. And Derek 203 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 4: Keeter because gave a speech the past two years and 204 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 4: spend training that the best players are going to be 205 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 4: down in Miami. And I mean you you already see 206 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 4: some of the players that are coming up. How good 207 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 4: everybody is. I mean, from top to bottom in this organization, 208 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 4: there's incredible guys. There's incredible people who want to win, 209 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 4: and that's I think that's the biggest thing is there's 210 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 4: guys who want to win, who want to get to 211 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 4: the big leagues and compete and grind it out every 212 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 4: single day and it's it's going to be special. When 213 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 4: everything gets put together in top to bottom, it's going 214 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 4: to be special. 215 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Michael always says that there's layers of talent, and 216 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 2: I think that is the truest when we're talking about 217 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 2: the pitch the pitching in this organization from rookie ball 218 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 2: all the way to the major leagues. I mean, the 219 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 2: major league system right now, or the major league rotation 220 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 2: is thirteenth in starting era, you know, and era isn't everything, 221 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 2: of course, but when you're talking about the major league 222 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 2: system already being there, and then we're throwing out names 223 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 2: like a Nick Knighter, like an Edward Cabrera, like a 224 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 2: six to zero Sanchez, on and on and on, it's 225 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 2: crazy the amount of depth and talent that the pitching 226 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 2: staff has. And I'm excited that you are absolutely a 227 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 2: big part of that. You mentioned Jeter, and you know, 228 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 2: it's a Jeter and den Bo project. I guess that 229 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 2: they have. But Captain's Camp is something that they brought 230 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 2: over and is something that prior to this season you 231 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 2: were designated as a member of. What can you tell 232 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 2: the fans in US about that experience and what for 233 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 2: you in particular as a player benefits from it. 234 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 4: It's always incredible to be invited to it, especially back 235 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 4: to back years. It's been special to kind of see 236 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 4: the first year how it played out, and then even 237 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 4: this year being able to go there and and already 238 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 4: been a part of it a year before and to 239 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 4: kind of help the guys that are going to the 240 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 4: first year. But I mean, every single day they're they're 241 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 4: looking specifically at each and every individual saying, how can 242 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 4: we get this guy better? What what is going to 243 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 4: help you, you know, peak your performance throughout the whole 244 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 4: entire season. And they do a great job of really 245 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 4: focusing in and so when we go into spring training, 246 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 4: when we go into the season, we already know what 247 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 4: the expectations are for the season. We already can push 248 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 4: the guys next to us being like hey, hey man, 249 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 4: like that's that's not what this organization is about. We 250 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 4: need to we need to be better than that, and 251 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 4: just to push everybody around us and to be leaders 252 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 4: throughout the clubhouse into great other leaders to lead. And 253 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 4: it's just really special when when Gary denbo and Derek 254 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 4: Jeter and select people and you're one of them, it's 255 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 4: a special feeling. I mean, those guys came from the 256 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 4: New York Yankees, and I mean they know baseball through 257 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 4: and through and they know what it takes to win. 258 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 4: And you can see that starting to develop everywhere you 259 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 4: go in the Marlins organization. 260 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 2: Because you know, a lot of times and a lot 261 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 2: of franchises. I guess even fans throw the buzzword. You know, 262 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 2: it's a culture change, right that in South Florida. Again, 263 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 2: you're from Georgia, but in South Florida when the heat 264 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 2: really started, the Mimi Heat really started winning, right, that's 265 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 2: what they really pointed at. Now I'm going to point 266 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 2: to the fact that they had elite talent, you know, 267 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 2: and a Dwayne Wade and Lebron James and whatever the 268 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 2: case is. But the aura was, well, there's a culture 269 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 2: change here. It sounds again not just from you, from 270 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 2: other players that have been on and from other players 271 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 2: that have spoken on other outlets as well, that that 272 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 2: was one of the primary goals of this ownership group 273 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: and the change and the captain's camp, a culture change 274 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 2: and really a maker of leaders, a maker of men. 275 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 2: Is that something that you say is valid, you say 276 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 2: that's that's true, or is there something else that maybe 277 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 2: we're missing from an external standpoint. 278 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 4: No, absolutely, it's one hundred percent about a culture change, 279 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 4: not just for us, but to the fans, for the 280 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 4: people coming to the games. They don't want it just 281 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 4: to be a culture change in the clubhouse. They want 282 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 4: it to be a culture change in Miami. And the 283 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 4: very first thing we did last year during Captain's Camp 284 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 4: is Gary denbo was standing up there on the whiteboard 285 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 4: with a marker saying, all right, guys, I want you 286 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 4: guys to put together what makes a leader? And we 287 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 4: probably jotted off probably thirty descriptions of a leader and 288 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 4: it's hanging in the clubhouse to this day on what 289 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 4: a leader looks like and like what this culture change 290 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 4: looks like, and who we want the Miami Marlins to be. 291 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 4: They didn't the front office didn't put it together. Us 292 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 4: players that were at this captains can't put it together 293 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 4: on what is going to make us a winning organization. 294 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 4: And so not only as a front office pushing for stuff, 295 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 4: but you also have players that are pushing for the 296 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 4: same exact goal, for the same exact thing. And it's 297 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 4: it's great because the front office truly does listen to 298 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 4: us players and in corporate rate that into everything. 299 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 3: That's awesome. Yeah, like the clinical psychology. 300 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 2: I me just wants to come out and say that 301 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 2: the fact that they had you guys right, it was 302 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 2: beautiful because it's accountability too, and it's your words. It's 303 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 2: something you could buy into rather than it just being 304 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 2: a top down approach, you know, where they're saying this 305 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 2: is what you need to do. No, it is a 306 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 2: level to level approach of what is it that you 307 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 2: expect from yourself and then we're gonna do everything that 308 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 2: we can to make sure you achieve what your own 309 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 2: expectations are. 310 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 3: That's awesome. I actually not know that, so that was fantastic. 311 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 2: Just like a sidebar question, do you as a prospect 312 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 2: or you can answer almost for yourself if anyone else. Really, 313 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 2: do you think that the guys really pay attention to 314 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 2: rankings like top one hundred rankings, like prospect rankings. I 315 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 2: say that because you were a top one hundred prospect 316 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,239 Speaker 2: last year for Baseball America. 317 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 3: Do you guys pay attention to that? Is that something 318 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 3: that you are very mindful of or just kind of 319 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 3: mindful of and happy that you got the accolade? 320 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 4: I would say maybe some guys do. For myself, I don't. 321 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 4: I don't really look at the rankings. To me, I'm 322 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 4: just I'm just out there having fun playing baseball. Just 323 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 4: every five, six seven days, whenever I get the opportunity 324 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 4: to go in the field, just to do the best 325 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 4: that I can, to help our team win, to do 326 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 4: the best that I can, and then whoever those chips fall, 327 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 4: they fall. But I know, for me, my goal is 328 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 4: not to be on the top one hundred list there 329 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 4: to be number one. My My goal is to get 330 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 4: to the big leagues and help the big leaguess team 331 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 4: when in whatever way I can do that, and if 332 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 4: it lands me a spot on the top one hundred list, 333 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 4: it does. If it whoever it lands me, it's cool 334 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 4: to get the accolade, but it's not the end goal. 335 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 4: If you my my goal is to get to the 336 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 4: big leagues and help the big league team win. And 337 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 4: that's that's honestly what I what I focus on. 338 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, something tells me that whether it's because of 339 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 2: that mindset or just maybe e're ape. We could talk 340 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 2: about that later. I think that you're going to succeed 341 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 2: at at reaching that goal. You know, you had a 342 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 2: really good year last year, obviously as well documented. And 343 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 2: then obviously this year we go through a little bit 344 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 2: of of a set back, just a physical injury, and 345 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 2: we're not going to even really talk too much time 346 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 2: about that. You you've overcome then and you've passed that. 347 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 2: But with that injury, spent a lot of time rehabbing 348 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 2: with the younger guys in the system. What was it 349 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 2: like being around the young guys and do you think 350 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 2: there's anything that you learned from them as much as 351 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 2: I'm sure they learn from you. 352 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, honestly, this was a that was the very first 353 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 4: time in my career where I felt like an old 354 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 4: guy in the organization. I was like, I'm twenty two 355 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:45,239 Speaker 4: and I actually feel old around everybody here. But it 356 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 4: was it was Greaty just about everybody kind of asked 357 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 4: questions about you know, moving up in the system, about 358 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 4: pro ball, about this, about that, just kind of picking 359 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 4: my brain about stuff. And I wanted to help out 360 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 4: everybody as much as I possibly could, you know, you know, 361 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 4: helping them act more like a professional, kind of grow 362 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 4: in their steps. And it was cool being down there. 363 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 4: I got to meet Casey Meisner, JJ Blade, the Sine Nunez. 364 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 4: The team actually went to high school, my rival high school, 365 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 4: and I met him this offseason when I was helping coach. Yeah, 366 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 4: so it was cool staying him. When he got picked, 367 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 4: I was like, you got to akim me. I was like, like, 368 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 4: they're going after these Georgia guys in Banfield last year, 369 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 4: But it was it was awesome. Yeah, just just helping 370 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 4: helping those guys. At the same time, it's being in rehab. 371 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 4: It's also very humbling to realize that. I mean, you're 372 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 4: not guaranteed to play every single day. You're very fortunate 373 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 4: when you're in the season, when you're healthy, when you're 374 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 4: able to get on the field every single day, when 375 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 4: you're able to throw baseball. I know, it was pretty 376 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 4: tough on me not being able to play, watching watching 377 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 4: the baby cakes, watching all the minor league guys, probably 378 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 4: watching big leagues gyplay and I was in rehab every 379 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 4: single morning. It is tough, but it definitely teaches you 380 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 4: to appreciate when you get to play a lot more. 381 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I could imagine. 382 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 2: You know, this was and I'm not sure again if 383 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 2: you place individual expectations upon yourself, but listen with the 384 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 2: kind of player that you were, even. 385 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 3: At that age. 386 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 2: I really felt this would have been a year that 387 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 2: you could have definitely stepped into Marlins Park, right And 388 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 2: this is that's an unfortunate reality of the game. Sometimes 389 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 2: there's a stepback, sometimes there's an injury. There's no doubt 390 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 2: really in my mind moving forward that I think that 391 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 2: you would be able to set foot in Marlin's Park 392 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 2: given by the beginning of next year and really start 393 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 2: to continue having this culture change. Is there anyone at 394 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 2: the big league level right now that you've been able to, 395 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 2: either in the off season or at spring in JUPI 396 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 2: or whatever the case is, feel connected to or built 397 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 2: a relationship with. 398 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 4: So last year it was Dan Straley. He was awesome. 399 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 4: He kind of took me under his wing. And then 400 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 4: Dan last year took Brett Grays underneath his wing and 401 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 4: helped him out. And then I've had the privilege to 402 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 4: actually play with Brett a lot this year, so he's 403 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 4: shed a lot of light on a lot of things 404 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 4: and really helped me kind of just progressed as a 405 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 4: baseball player. I mean, he played in the big leagues 406 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 4: last year and that was great, And I mean you 407 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 4: have such a young, welcoming team when you go to 408 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 4: spring training. I mean, we had Brian holiday for the 409 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 4: beginning half of this year, and he was incredible. He 410 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 4: was awesome. I mean, one of the best catches I've 411 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 4: ever thrown. To the amount of baseball knowledge that he 412 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 4: has is I mean through the roof. So I tried 413 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 4: to tried to listen whenever he would speak. I mean 414 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 4: I would I would kind of stop talking and just 415 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 4: listening to what he was saying. But I mean, you 416 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 4: take things from different guys. I mean, you see the 417 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 4: way Jose Urana goes about things. I mean, he goes 418 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 4: all out every single day. I mean that's fun cat. 419 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 4: I mean you look at I mean, honestly, anyone on 420 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 4: that big league team, and they're just regular guys trying 421 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 4: to help everybody, trying to get the Mordlins to a 422 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 4: place where we're winning ball club. 423 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 2: Awesome, Awesome, you have been great. You're just fantastic. I 424 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 2: only have a few more, okay from listeners, and I 425 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 2: promise you get to enjoy the rest of your day. 426 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 2: Zach is a fantastic fan. Zach Rabb. He he has 427 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 2: this question, has there been any one or two guys 428 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 2: in the organization right that you've learned from something baseball wise, 429 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 2: and it doesn't necessarily have to be a pitcher, but 430 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 2: something on the field that you've learned from since coming 431 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 2: over in this trade, and I guess Brian Holliday really 432 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 2: could be a good point there as well. But anything 433 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 2: that you've picked up on from another player that's just 434 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 2: been a good hint or a good tip for your 435 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 2: development moving forward. 436 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 4: Oh man, I would say Dance straded last year. I mean, 437 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 4: it was my first time in big league camp, and 438 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 4: he took me under his wing, taught me a lot 439 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 4: of stuff, honestly, taught me how to scout players, like 440 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 4: scouting hitters and stuff like that and kind of creating 441 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 4: a game plan, and he helped me through a lot, 442 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 4: even because he came to rehabit and Jacksonville last year. 443 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 4: He took me how to eat a couple of times, 444 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 4: and just to pick his brain about the big leagues 445 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 4: and he kind of gave me advice on moving forward 446 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 4: and stuff like that. And he was awesome. He was. 447 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 4: I mean, I still keep in contact with him a 448 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 4: little bit as much as I can, but he was 449 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 4: awesome to me last year. He's a good friend and 450 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 4: I really appreciated everything that he's done. 451 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 2: For me, Yeah, it seems like Dan is a consistent 452 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 2: answer too. When we spoken to other guys this year, 453 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 2: it seems like he's really someone who really was comfortable 454 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 2: with being a leader, with being a friend, right with 455 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 2: just helping the younger guy coming up. So that definitely 456 00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 2: validates the fact of what we already thought of Dan Strayley. 457 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 2: The second one is from Reid, also a listener. He says, 458 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 2: were there any ways you tried to keep developing maybe 459 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 2: in a mental or a strategy or game planning type 460 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 2: of way while you were out prior to being able 461 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,719 Speaker 2: to physically rehab while you are out with this injury, 462 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 2: Was there anything you did differently so that you could 463 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 2: continue developing moving forward? 464 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 4: Absolutely? I mean every single day we would get done, 465 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 4: probably around eleven twelve o'clock, and then you'd go out 466 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 4: and you'd watch some of the gCO extended games. And mentally, 467 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 4: for me, it made me even more passionate about the 468 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 4: game of baseball. Like knowing that I was, you know, 469 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 4: hobbling outside to watch these games and that I couldn't 470 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 4: get out there and play. I mean, it's definitely tough, 471 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 4: but it definitely made me more passionate about when I 472 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 4: do get back out to play, like, I want to 473 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 4: let everything out that I have every single day, no 474 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 4: matter what it to him. I would say that from 475 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 4: like a mental aspect, it made me truly appreciate being 476 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,360 Speaker 4: back and playing the game every single day and enjoying it. 477 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 4: From a physical aspect, I looked at stuff I could 478 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 4: do to get better, whether it was like shoulder care, 479 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 4: whether it was in the weight room to all the 480 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,959 Speaker 4: way to pitching, like okay, like what were my pitches 481 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 4: looking at like at the beginning of the season. Okay, 482 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 4: what did that change? Is off season? What like mechanically 483 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 4: just kind of breaking down my mechanics, like what wasn't 484 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 4: working very efficiently? And so when I came back, I 485 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 4: could automatically just start working on those things, almost like 486 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 4: building up an off season coming back into spring training. Okay, 487 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 4: what can I build on? What can I work on 488 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 4: to so I when I get back, I can just 489 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 4: jump right in and be the best that I can 490 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 4: possibly be. 491 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 3: Wow. 492 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's incredible how we can still develop, how we 493 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 2: could still learn even when something seems like a setback. 494 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 2: You know, in my field, the people that listen to 495 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 2: me know I'm in clinical psychology, it's burnout is something 496 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 2: that happens. Self care is something that's important. Is there 497 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 2: something in your life so that the listeners can really 498 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 2: get to know you a little bit more. That that 499 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 2: you that you stick to or that you go to 500 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 2: as your self care, something that uplifts you, something that 501 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,959 Speaker 2: motivates you. You know, anything, whether it's family, whether it's 502 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 2: to show, whether it's faith, whatever the case may be, 503 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 2: something that Nick goes to for uplifting and for self care. 504 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 4: I would just say my faith. I mean, my relationship 505 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 4: with God is the number one thing in my life. 506 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 4: And you know, it came to Christ about a year 507 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,719 Speaker 4: and a half two years ago, and it's been an 508 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 4: incredible journey. It made me realize that baseball truly isn't 509 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 4: everything in life. That there's going to be a day 510 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 4: where I don't play the game of baseball anymore, and 511 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 4: I want I don't want that to be that kind 512 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 4: of the end of my life. That is like, Okay, 513 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 4: I already already did what I wanted to do, so 514 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 4: I don't know what I'm going to do now, but 515 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 4: I just I started focusing my life on Jesus and 516 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 4: even through this whole entire rehab process. Even to the injury, 517 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 4: I knew that God had something bigger for me than 518 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 4: maybe making it to the big league this year. Whether 519 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 4: it was even coming back and playing this year, I didn't. 520 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 4: I didn't know what was to come from the injury, 521 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 4: but that that's something that I cling to, And even 522 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 4: when I was in rehabit, I think I became even 523 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 4: stronger in my faith, just trusting and because I you know, 524 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 4: I always had my plan that when I thought this 525 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 4: season was going to look like and so far it 526 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,959 Speaker 4: hasn't happened anything like I thought it would. But I 527 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 4: just I trust my whole entire life in God's hands 528 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 4: and know that wherever He takes me, it's where he 529 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 4: needs me to be. And I just trust him. 530 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 2: That, Yeah, that You're going to have an amazing testimony 531 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 2: one day, There's no doubt about that. All Right, Nick, 532 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 2: I have one last question for you. This is the 533 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 2: Ethan Bodowski. Again, he's a Gator, so you know, forgive him, 534 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 2: but this is the Ethan Boski Special, all right. He 535 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 2: asks every single player that's come on, the six, seven, 536 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 2: eight players that we've had. 537 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 3: Is the last question. 538 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,679 Speaker 2: Okay, we know at the end of the day that 539 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,959 Speaker 2: you guys are very and that you guys are you know, 540 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 2: blessed and happy to be in the minor leagues and 541 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 2: professional ballplayers. So we're not trying to minimize the minor 542 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 2: league experience at all. But everyone has a story where 543 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 2: they were like in a really bad hotel on a trip, 544 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 2: or a bus trip that was really awful, or some 545 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 2: kind of minor league experience where they sat back and 546 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 2: they're like, Okay, I need to make it to the 547 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 2: majors because I'm not doing this anymore. Was there anything 548 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 2: like that that you experienced that just showed you Okay, 549 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 2: this is the minor league experience that people talk about, 550 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 2: and I look forward to the day where I could 551 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 2: be at the major league level not dealing with this anymore. 552 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I have countless stories, but I would 553 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 4: so last year in Jacksonville, we probably had one of 554 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 4: the I want to say, one of the worst travel schedules. 555 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 4: I mean, we would play a game at seven o'clock 556 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 4: at night and then have to travel eight hours to 557 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 4: our next destination. And so we were traveling on the 558 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 4: bus and there's people sleeping in the up and down 559 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 4: the aisles, and and you just you just looking. You're like, man, 560 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 4: this is something else. And so one time I got 561 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,360 Speaker 4: up to go to the bathroom and you come out 562 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 4: like there's people lying across the seats like sometimes people 563 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 4: are like lying right next to each other on the ground. 564 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 4: I was like, this is this is as minor league 565 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 4: as it gets. Right here. It's three in the morning 566 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 4: and people are lying on the ground of the bus, 567 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 4: stretch out across the seats like you're having the jungle 568 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 4: gym climb over people. I was like, this is this 569 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 4: is minor leagues right here. 570 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 2: This is it. 571 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 3: That's the minor league experience. 572 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 2: Oh man, Yeah, I'm just happy that you weren't like 573 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 2: the fourth consecutive guy in the road to say Clinton, 574 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 2: because now that the Marlins have, now that the Marlins 575 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 2: have a Clinton in their system, every like everyone everyone's like, yeah, man, 576 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 2: this is one year I was in Clinton and it's 577 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 2: just like, oh, I don't know if we can air that, 578 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 2: but uh but yeah, all right, did you did good? 579 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 3: You did that. You did not disappoint us with that? 580 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 3: Would I love it? Yeah? 581 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 2: The jungle gym bus after you just use the rest 582 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 2: of your visit pretty good one. All right, brother, Well, 583 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 2: you know what. I appreciate you. I will let you 584 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 2: get back to enjoy the rest of your day. Seriously, 585 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 2: you are awesome. 586 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 3: And thank you for coming on. 587 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 2: Okay, I really can't wait to see you at Marlin's 588 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 2: Park one day and you're fulfilling that testimony. 589 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 4: Absolutely, thank you so much for having me. I truly 590 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 4: appreciate it.