1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to you stuff you should know front House Stuff 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: Works dot Com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm 3 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: Josh Clark, There's Charles W Chuck Bryant. I've decided to 4 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: talk about speed right now. Oh yeah, how's it going. Well? 5 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: You know there are some weirdos that listen to us 6 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: on double Speed. Well they just are like, hurry up 7 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: and get to the point. You're idiot, yea, because you know, 8 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: busy lives. They can't listen to forty minutes of contact straight. 9 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 1: It always it's funny to mean somebody tweets to us 10 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: or takes the time to write an email say like, 11 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: I love your your podcast, but I'm really displeased with 12 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: the tangents you go on. You seem to talk about 13 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that's unrelated. Can you stop doing that? 14 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: And um, I always think I don't think Seffy, you 15 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: should know this for you buddy. If you're if you're 16 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: being driven crazy by that, then well yeah, like we 17 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: would welcome you to stay. But the tangents are they're 18 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: part of the fabric of the show at this point. 19 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: There's the glue. Like it or not, I think the 20 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: whole thing would be decidedly less enjoyable if we were 21 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: just like vomiting facts, just business like, you know. Yeah, 22 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: or maybe after eight fifty shows, we should just completely 23 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: change how we do it. Yeah, there you go. That's 24 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: a great idea. Hey, before we get started, though, we 25 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 1: do want to thank Sam from gypsums Ma Lord. Oh yeah, yeah, 26 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: thank you. Sam. We mentioned the unique Liqueur Chicago brand 27 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: Liqueur on our PR show Live in Chicago because you 28 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: tried it like before the show. Yeah. Well, I've tried 29 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: it a few times and it's, uh, it's you know, 30 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: it's as John Hodgman said, it tastes like a pencil 31 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: shavings and heartbreak as his descriptor. But Sam heard us 32 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: talking about Crown Down Royal. It was like, wait a minute, 33 00:01:58,040 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: they talked about my Lord and I didn't send him 34 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: in anything. Yeah, attention all of their distillers in America 35 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: you can get in on this too. Yeah. If the 36 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: makers of Plymouth Gin or Leopold's Gin or Knob Creek 37 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: or Pappy Van Winkle St. George's, they're a great distillery 38 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: out of San Francisco. Yeah, Pappy van Winkle. Wow, we 39 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: that's the stuff that gets like hijacked and sold for 40 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: like dollars on the internet. So I'm just throwing it 41 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 1: out there. I'm picking it back up, bringing it back here, 42 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: throwing it again. We're happy to drink your booze and 43 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: talk about it at nauseam. Uh you know what else. 44 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: We're happy to talk about big boy bon yes, which 45 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: you I don't know if I was saying it wrong, 46 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: but right before we press record, you said it's not bonsai, 47 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: it's bonsai, and I was like, what's the It's not bonzai? Right? 48 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: That means heads up right right right? Bonsai? Right? Uh? 49 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: Is it basically means plant in tiny container? Yeah? Those 50 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: are the cute toy trees. Mr plastic It depends target 51 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: has some. They definitely have plastic ones. Yeah. If you 52 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 1: search BONDSA, it's one of the things that comes up immediately. 53 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: It's fake trees. I think it's called like nearly real 54 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: for nearly natural something like that, and uh, it does 55 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: not look nearly natural. It's like near beer. Do you 56 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: ever heard people called non alcoholic beer near beer. I 57 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 1: think it's kind of funny. I used to um, I 58 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: probably wouldn't tell his story. So with bonds, I, UM, chuck, 59 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: we're talking like you said the little toy trees, And yeah, 60 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: there's plenty of fake bonds I out there, but they're 61 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: just kind of it's the same thing as fake flowers. 62 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: You know. Well it sort of flies in the face 63 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: of what's special about bonsai, which is that it's a 64 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: living work of art. Right it does, And a lot 65 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: of people are like, well, that's just a weird, freakish 66 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: tree that you've been abusing for the last several decades. 67 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: Some people actually do criticize bonsai because it is Yeah, 68 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: it's it's like docking and dog's tail or. Um, it's 69 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: nothing like, but it depending on how you feel about plants, 70 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: it's it's the same thing. You're taking, it's something that's 71 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: natural and literally bending it to your will. So there's 72 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: an anti pruning movement going on around the world. Maybe 73 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if I would go that far to 74 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: say it, but um, if you are invested in bonds Eye, 75 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: if you do appreciate bonds Eye, part of the whole 76 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: point of bonds Eye. As you are taking, you're creating 77 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: a tableau that is a a living depiction of nature 78 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: rather than a painting. You're creating a living version of 79 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 1: basically a painting well sculpture, living sculpture. Yeah, yeah, that's 80 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: even better, Like you can make it out of sculpe clay. 81 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: You could, but then you've you've totally missed the point 82 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: of bonding. Well they'd be fun too, but but it's 83 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 1: something different, right, So, um, we're going to talk about 84 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: how to how to bonds? Ie, I have to say, um, 85 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: is that a verb as well? It is? Now we're 86 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: gonna Jerry's is cracking up this episode? She's she's reading, Uh, oh, 87 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: what is the guy from Crack's name? Alfredy Newman's like 88 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: kind of oh yeah, he had like this yeah counterpart. 89 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: Yeah is that still around because they're sort of a 90 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 1: different thing than they. Yeah. Yeah, there's this great story 91 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: behind Cracked, Like Cracked was around for you know, decades, 92 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: and it just got less of languish. And I guess 93 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: some fan came along and was like, hey, I noticed, 94 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: like you're basically just waiting around for Crack to die. 95 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: Can I have a stab at it? Crack at it? 96 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: I specifically didn't say that, but yes, and um they're like, whatever, kid, 97 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: go ahead, and the guy basically resurrected Crack Cracked in 98 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: his basement brought it back from the dead and now 99 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: it's like huge, sold for boatload of money. Oh yeah, 100 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: good for them. I hope it went to that dude 101 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: who resurrected it. I do too, that's great. Um, I 102 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: don't remember how we got onto cracked. Jerry was laughing. Oh, 103 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: she was reading cracked. That's right. Um. So back to 104 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: bonds I, Like I said, we're gonna talk about how 105 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: to bonds I, which, like they said as a verb. Now, um, 106 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: but let's talk about the history of it first. Yeah. 107 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: Like uh, Like many things in the world, and especially 108 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: many things that you might associate with Japan, it started 109 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: earlier in China before it made its way to Japan, 110 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: and in China it was called well in Japan, did 111 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: you already say what the what it literally means? I 112 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: think you did. Yeah, it means plant in a tray, Yeah, 113 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: plant in a tray. In China it was punsi, which 114 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: means tray plant. Not too far off. And if you 115 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: go all the way back to the Tang dynasty, Um, 116 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: they there is evidence, you know, and tomb paintings that 117 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: they had these little little prune trees and shallow pots. Yeah, 118 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: it's just like part of the painting in the tomb. 119 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: It's not like featured, it's just part of it, kind 120 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: of depicting regular life. They're like, okay, well, at least 121 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: by seven oh six, um, see that there were people 122 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: doing bonzai in China through ponzai, right, Uh, it may 123 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: go back even further than that. There's a legend that 124 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: an emperor round about two oh six BC wanted his 125 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: entire empire China recreated a miniature in his backyard, and um, 126 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: they think they suspect that it's possible that that may 127 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: have given rise to pontai. That makes sense. They're like, 128 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: we gotta make tiny trees now because the emperor wants. Yeah. 129 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: But then either through trade or through gifts, exchanges of 130 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: state departments and stuff like that. Um, Japan does what 131 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: it always did, and it got its handed on something 132 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: and then took it to the nth degree and perfected 133 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: and made it. That's what Japan does. That's what they do. Uh. 134 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: There's an ancient Japanese scroll that I found not literally 135 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: in my backyard, and you're adding, uh, that I found 136 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: on the internet. Uh, And it says this is around 137 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: the Kamakura period, which was to thirt thirty three. Um, 138 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: and it says to appreciate and find pleasure and curiously 139 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: curved potted trees is to love deformity, which I thought 140 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: was interesting. And the article I read said it, you know, 141 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: we don't know whether it is positive or negative. Yeah, 142 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: I think it means positive. Maybe the writer was passive aggressive. 143 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: I thought it was a pretty interesting quote though. Oh 144 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: yeah for sure, because I mean, again, you're training trees 145 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: to to be little freaks of nature basically. Yeah. And um, 146 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: like a lot of other works of art at the time, Um, 147 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: it starts out with like monks and Buddhists, and then 148 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: eventually it becomes like part of the rich elite and 149 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: then eventually works its way to the to the common folk. 150 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: So by the I think the thirteenth fifteen, sixteenth century, 151 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: it was, it was, it was, it would become like 152 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: a pretty well established hobby in Japan. Um, I don't. 153 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: I got the impression that wasn't necessarily thought of as 154 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: an art form until the West saw it for the 155 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: first time. So in the seventeenth century, Japan was getting 156 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: really tired of Westerners trying to convert them to Christianity 157 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: and um, basically exploiting them in unfair trade practices. They said, 158 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: you know what Westerners get out, We are isolating ourselves, 159 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: were closing ourselves off the trade with the West except 160 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: for a few Dutch and Spaniards. Uh, and then the Chinese, 161 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: everybody else go away. And they stayed like that for 162 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: a couple hundred years. And um, I believe it was 163 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: Millard Fillmore who sent Matthew Perry Chandler bing over there 164 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: with the squadron of navy freighters and huge cannons and guns, saying, 165 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna trade with us? He said, could you guys 166 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: be any cooler? You have all kinds of cool stuff, 167 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 1: that's my Chandler. So Japan opened up basically at the 168 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: barrel of America's guns. Yeah, we should do a show 169 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: on that. We talked about it enough. It's really interesting 170 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: the isolation this period, Like what was what went on there? 171 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: And then? Uh, A lot of bonds, a lot of 172 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: goldfish tending. Nice remember Mr Burns famous quote those sandal 173 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: wearing goldfish tenders. I don't remember that. That's good though. 174 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: But as far as coming to the West, there were 175 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 1: a couple of big fairs where it kind of exploded. 176 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: The Paris World Exhibition of eighteen seventy eight in the 177 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: London exhibition of nineteen o nine, where uh, you know, 178 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: of course people in the West just probably flipped for it. Yeah, 179 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: because it's so cool. Yeah, it is like, oh man, 180 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:49,599 Speaker 1: researching this, I just every time I would come across 181 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 1: a new term for like a style or something, I 182 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: go look it up and I end up spending half 183 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: an hour just looking at bonds Eye pictures. You know. 184 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: It's really engrossing. Yeah. I was gonna be like, all right, 185 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: I'm doing this, but I'm gonna wait for what old age, 186 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: so like three or four years from now. Yeah, I 187 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: think I'm going to get into it. Yeah. I think 188 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: it's just for me. I've got too much going on 189 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: right now to do. But it's gonna be a great 190 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 1: retirement past time for me. I could just I could 191 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: see myself really like spending days and days. I can 192 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: see it's caring for these little guys because I like, 193 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: oh yeah, and I like, uh like tiny things and miniatures. Oh, 194 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 1: you're gonna love Bond's Eye. Yeah, like the little tiny 195 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: Tabasco bottles that you get in room service and stuff 196 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: like that. Plus you're crazy for it. Your doll houses 197 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: that you've built on my doll houses. Yeah, I just 198 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think you read Dobson play. Yeah. Um, 199 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: all right, well, I guess we should talk about some 200 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: of those styles and huh, well you want to take 201 00:11:53,640 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: a break first, Yeah, let's do that. Okay, okay, Josh, 202 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: you mentioned styles, and I did the same thing you did, Buddy. 203 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: I went and looked at pictures and I put little 204 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,839 Speaker 1: marks next to my favorite ones, like earmarked what I'm 205 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: gonna try and emulate in the future. I'm very curious 206 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: if if we're going to do right, you start so 207 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 1: upright choken and it's the most formal traditional style where 208 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: it is basically it emulates a strong, healthy, upright growing tree. Yeah. 209 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,719 Speaker 1: I love that we take this like ancient, amazing art 210 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: form and the most formal style we go right, Yeah, 211 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: but I agree. Didn't delight me. And again, what you're 212 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: doing is emulating nature, but you're doing it in miniature. 213 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: And part of bonds Ie UM is using like tricks 214 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 1: of the eye, force perspective, that kind of stuff. And Um, 215 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: the upright the choken style UM does that by tapering 216 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: the trunk, so it's much wider at the bottom than 217 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: it is that that's the top to kind of give 218 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: you the idea that you're looking up towards a very 219 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: tall tree. Yeah, and we'll sprinkle in bits of the 220 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: uh sort of philosophical art behind it. But the idea 221 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: is that you you sort of imagine a scene in 222 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: your head and then you try and make it look 223 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 1: like that. Maybe it's something from your past, maybe it's 224 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: a great tree you saw one time on a vacation, 225 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: but just something that makes you feel good. Um, you're 226 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: usually not like, you know, let me just make some crazy, 227 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 1: weird looking thing because you know I'm drunk. I'm gonna 228 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: make the I'm gonna make that tree that was next 229 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: to the place where my friend got hit and killed 230 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: on his bike. Now it's all about harmony. Yes, that 231 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: would be the opposite of Bond's eye. Yes, that's right. 232 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: Uh So, moving into another style, which I did not 233 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: put a check Martin next to. But it's okay, mayogi, 234 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: I like this one. It's okay. It's a little like 235 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:12,599 Speaker 1: the choken. Um it's the informal upright, Okay, so a 236 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: little more style maybe. Yeah. So the chocon is very formal, 237 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: very straight. Um, the mayogi is it's overall the shape 238 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: is upright, but it can like bend and twist to 239 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: get to that point. You see what I'm saying. It's neat. Yeah, 240 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: I think it's neat. I wouldn't mind doing a moyogi 241 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: at some point in the future, but it definitely won't 242 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: be the first one I try. All Right, it's it's 243 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: down the list of it. Uh the slanting shakan or 244 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: or fukanagashi fukagashi. Yeah, nice, it's that good. Um, these 245 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: are pretty cool. I have to say. That has the 246 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: leaning trunk at a forty five degree angle and the 247 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: branches follow the angle of the trunk. Yeah, they're they're 248 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: parallel to it, right, Yes, basically parallel essentially right, so 249 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: they're neat looking. And that trunk is slanted. Uh. In 250 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: in reference to the the pot, the lip the lip 251 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: of the pot, right, um, and we should say don't 252 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: we haven't said it. So we're talking mostly about the 253 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: trees and that's what gets the most attention. But um, 254 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: classically and at its heart, bonsai is a it's a balance, 255 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: it's a harmony between the plant and the pot. Like 256 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: when you're talking about it bonsai. The pot is included 257 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: in that it's very it's part of the sculpture itself. Almost, yeah, agreed. Uh. 258 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: And also with that slanting style. Um supposedly, even though 259 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: I saw many examples to the contrary. The first branch 260 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: is supposed to go opposite of the angle of the 261 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: trunk for to provide balance, right, I think that's in 262 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: the shotgun style. It goes opposite. Yeah, got yeah, alright, alright, chuck, 263 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: next cascade for really eat and you just lit up 264 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: like a Christmas tree. It's yours. So the semi cascade, 265 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: the Hanken guy is mine. That's the one I'm going 266 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: to try first. All right, Well, go ahead and describe it. 267 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: This so basically, and you need a deeper pot. So 268 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: most pots for um uh bonsai are shallow. Um this 269 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: you need like a pretty deep pot forward, because the 270 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: plant is basically mostly overhanging. It's outside and hanging down 271 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: from the pot. That's a full on cascade. And these 272 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: are meant to really emulate like a tree that's just 273 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: barely hanging on and like a rocky outcrop on a mountain. Interesting, 274 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: and so the cascade is full on like the basically 275 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: the whole plant has been below the lip of the pot. 276 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: The semi cascade is where right where the there's a 277 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: substantial amount of the plant is still in the pot, 278 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: but it's growing over and down the side something or 279 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: really off to the side and swept his semi cascade, 280 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 1: I think is another term for it. Yeah, now I'm 281 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: trying to apply psychology to why that's your favorite. It's 282 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: just the look of it. Just aesthetically speaking, I think 283 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: it's it's great. Next up we have the literati or 284 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: the bungen or bungeni bing bunging guy. Yeah, I think 285 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: that's way better. Probably one of those. So you think 286 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: I would ask my wife, sure we should just have 287 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: you me in here with like a ruler smacking knuckles. Nope. Um, 288 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: this is the one that's really uh focuses on perspective. 289 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: So the idea here here is that you're you're looking 290 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 1: uh from below to a tree that is above, like 291 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: if you're at the base of a mountain looking up. 292 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: Then you tailor the tree to make it look as 293 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: if And we should also mention that you should look 294 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: at eye level is traditionally where you're when you talk perspective. 295 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: You know, if you're standing four ft above it, right, 296 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 1: that's different you should look at bonsai eye level. Yeah, 297 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 1: that's why they're so frequently displayed at eye level. That's right. 298 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: And there's also it's probably worth mentioning here that there's 299 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: a definite front and a definite back to a bonsaie. 300 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: We'll get into that. Uh, this one is one of 301 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: my favorites. Broom. Yes, we are at the broom. So 302 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: this is this the one that you marked the hokey 303 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: duchy yes. Um. And you might look it up people 304 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: and say interesting, not the most flashy tree, but there's 305 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: something about it. Man. It has this like really full 306 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 1: kind of half dome with a just a single trunk 307 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: jutting up. Yeah, it's just beautiful to me. It's like 308 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 1: it takes the shape of like an idealized like maple 309 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 1: or oak tree. Yeah, you know, it reminded me of 310 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 1: a like a grand oak. Yeah. Well, yeah, I wouldn't 311 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: call you flashy. You've never been known to where like 312 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: I d bracelets or pinky rings or I don't know 313 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: what either one of those things are. Do you know 314 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: what a pinky ring is? Nope, yes you do. I 315 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: don't know what you're talking about. A pinky ring, A 316 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: man's pinky ring, I know what a man is. Okay, 317 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: well I'll tell you later. Uh So, next up is 318 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: my absolute favorite by far, the landscape. It's when you 319 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 1: create your little miniature scene. It's like a shadow box, 320 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: which I used to love doing those when I was 321 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: a kid. My my oldest sister was into this, um 322 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 1: years and years ago. Yeah. She would make more like 323 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: English gardens kind of in miniature that with like you 324 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: know what, like those gazing balls. She would make like, 325 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 1: well tiny one of those is the focal point of 326 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: the place. And yeah, so this is when you have 327 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: your little nature scene. You've got moss, you've got little rocks, 328 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: you may even have a water feature. And it's just 329 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: I just I don't know, man. Ever since I was 330 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: a kid, I love little things like that. So is 331 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 1: that the first one you're gonna try? Well, I think 332 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: I'll probably have to work up to that. Um, you're 333 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: not gonna just do water features right out of the gate, No, 334 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: but I might have built my own fountain once. It's 335 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: not that hard. You need to pump um. And this 336 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: actually China is still into um yeah, into bonsai, but 337 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 1: this is the stuff that they practice called pinging. Yeah, 338 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: very landscape oriented. Yeah, I might even put a little 339 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: like a camping sing little fire ring. Oh, that'd be 340 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: great with some little little guys with their acoustic guitars. Right, 341 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 1: and then Jason Vorhees is standing off to the side 342 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: just watching them. Maybe, um, root over or root on rock. 343 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: This is the one I thought was gonna be your favorite. Yeah, 344 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: so what's the deal here? Um? You you could definitely 345 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: combine this one with something like cascade or wind sweat. 346 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: It's where you train the roots of the um the 347 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: tree to grow around or on top of a rock. 348 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: It's pretty neat, so it looks like it is really 349 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: clinging to a mountain side. Yeah. And what they're trying 350 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: to do in a lot of these cases is give 351 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: the appear arrants of like an old tree, Uh, something 352 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: has been around for many years, um, when in fact 353 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: it maybe a tree that's like a year old, but 354 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: it looks like some ancient oak or something. Yeah. And 355 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: we'll talk about some of the techniques for doing that later, 356 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: but that is largely the It seems like the initial 357 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: point if you're you're trying to make it look like 358 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: an old tree, or you're creating a tree that you 359 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: intend to live for a few hundred years and get old, 360 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, and the oldest one they have in 361 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: d C like fo years old. That's even close. Yeah, yeah, 362 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: I mean that one's cool. You want to talk about that. 363 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 1: So there's a white pine at the National Banzai and 364 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: Penji Museum in d C, and it's almost four dred 365 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: years old. But also notably it survived a pretty big event, 366 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: the bombing of Urashima, and then it was given as 367 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 1: a gift from Japan to UM the US. Why. I 368 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: don't know. I guess they were like, you're don't ever 369 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: do that again, this thing to remind you, I think twice. 370 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: So there are many many older ones in that that 371 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,479 Speaker 1: was what you're saying. Yeah, there's one in uh Museum 372 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: in Spain. It's a ficus that's like a thousand years old. 373 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: There's another one that's like a thousand. There's a couple 374 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 1: that are eight hundred years old. And the ideas that 375 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 1: many times these are passed within your family, correct, Yeah, yeah, 376 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: very frequently they'll be handed down as heirlooms. UM. Now, 377 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: some of the disparity between ages where they're like that 378 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,479 Speaker 1: one doesn't really count. It may have been like a 379 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: thousand year old ficus that somebody found out in the 380 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 1: wild and collected and has been bonds eying for twenty years. 381 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 1: So this one, I have the impression um has been 382 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: bonds eyed and in the same family for like six 383 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 1: or seven generations, so it's been like tended to. So 384 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: it may have been kind of old when it was 385 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 1: when it was collected um, but it's been bonds eyed 386 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: for hundreds of years all right. To finish up, the 387 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: last category, which I think is pretty cool, multiform or 388 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 1: eca to or SoCon or kabudachi, and that is when 389 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 1: you have the illusion that you have more than one 390 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 1: tree but it's really just one tree. Yeah, that's it's 391 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: pretty cool. So it looks like, you know, it's generally 392 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: jutting out from the bottom obviously of the roots structure 393 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: up and it looks like a couple of trees. Yeah, 394 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 1: but it's a single tree. Some people cheat and put 395 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: some several trees in there. But well you can do that, right, 396 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: a little you're a little forest, I guess so. But 397 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: isn't that then really the landscape the psychi maybe? I think, 398 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: you know, what, are the Bonsai police gonna come knocking 399 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: on your door? Yeah, you don't want to mess with 400 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: those guys. You know you don't, they'll ignore you. All right, 401 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: let's talk a little bit about what kind of plants 402 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 1: you can use, because I did not know this. I 403 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 1: thought there was a special kind of tree that everybody 404 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: used to make a bonsai. Yeah, but in fact it's 405 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: it could be a tree that out in the wild 406 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: is thirty tall. I had no idea. I thought there 407 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: were little miniature trees. It just grew up to be 408 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: like a foot tall. Yeah, no, a lot. Apparently that's 409 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: like a common misconception. I saw that during research a 410 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: couple of times. Um. The whole key is you are 411 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: dwarfing a tree, and you're doing that by um, keeping 412 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: it in a small container and keeping its roots trimmed 413 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 1: back so that it comes to basically go against its 414 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: natural processes and just stays small in miniature. Um. But yeah, 415 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: basically any plant can be bonds eyed it is and Um, 416 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,479 Speaker 1: what I didn't realize is that most bonds eye is 417 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 1: meant to be outdoors. Thought it was strictly indoor. Yeah, 418 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: and there are indoor varieties Like you can take indoor 419 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: plants or plants that do well indoors and make them 420 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: bonds eye, and it's becoming more of a thing. But 421 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: for the most part, if you're doing, especially something with 422 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: like a pine or a deciduous tree or a juniper, 423 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: those are outdoor plants, and your your bonds eye is 424 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 1: meant to stay outdoors, except you know, if you bring 425 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: it in and use it as a centerpiece or something 426 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: once in a while. Yeah, and for those trees, um, 427 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: it makes a point in here that they have a 428 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: natural yearly cycle that will be disrupted if you keep 429 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: it indoors, so um, you may have to overwinter it 430 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: to a certain degree, but you're also gonna want to 431 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: take these out in the winter some r um. But 432 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: it also says that it's not like a grown tree 433 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 1: that's covered mulch and like super deep rooted, So you 434 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: can't just leave it out all winter, no, and if 435 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: you do, you would want to leave it in like 436 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: a cold frame or a greenhouse or something like that 437 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: where it's gonna survive, or you could also protect it 438 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: with a bunch of mulch too you leave it outside. 439 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, there's it does follow a lot of its 440 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: natural processes, right, So if you're doing like a fruiting 441 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,239 Speaker 1: tree or a flowering tree, like as as long as 442 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: it's healthy and happy, Uh, it's going to bear fruit, 443 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: there's gonna be flowers. Um. Pretty cool. Yeah, it's very cool. 444 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: But you are simulating nature and that it's the roots 445 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: are being kept shallow and trimmed. So you have to 446 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: take that into consideration by protecting it from cold and 447 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: from making sure it has a lot of water too. Yeah, 448 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: we'll we'll get into the specifics of care here in 449 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 1: a minute. Um, But as you said, you can pretty 450 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: much use any tree. Ideally, what you want to use 451 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: is something some sort of tree or shrub that have 452 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: small leaves or needles and that can get super dense. 453 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 1: So you just have sort of more um, more material 454 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: to work with for your art form. How's that? I 455 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: think it's wonderful. And it all starts with roots, right, Yeah, 456 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: So when you're looking for a specimen, you can just 457 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: go to like your local nursery. Some people grow stuff 458 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 1: from seed. You can also take cuttings um and grow 459 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,199 Speaker 1: them in like rooting hormone or something like that. If 460 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: you start from seed, that's like, that's neat, that's dedication. 461 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 1: And I will also say that if you start with 462 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 1: a kit that has a bonsai already sort of shaped 463 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 1: for you. That's and I'm not gonna knock it too 464 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: much because you might not have time and you might 465 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: still want to take care with it. That's a good point, 466 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: but I would recommend like to get your full experience 467 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: and maybe start with a cutting that you kind of 468 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 1: grow as your own little baby, right, or you can 469 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: go to like a nursery or something like that and 470 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: just say I would like to buy this plant and 471 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to turn it into a bond's eye. That 472 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: definitely counts as well. So UM, A really good one 473 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: to start with that I found is um a juniper. 474 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: Most junipers they grow as groundcovers, so they stay fairly 475 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: low to the ground normally, so they do well being miniaturized. 476 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: They're also pretty hardy plants from what I understand, and 477 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: um they grow really well in any temperate climate, relatively 478 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: temperate climate. So you go to a nursery and you 479 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 1: you want to kind of go already with the style 480 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: in mind that you're going to go with, whether it's 481 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: broom or whether it's wind swept or semi cascade or whatever, 482 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 1: because then you'll you'll be able to kind of narrow 483 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: down the plant that you want to buy because it's 484 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: already gonna you're almost seeing it in there, like you 485 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: know how sculptors say that they like look at a 486 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: piece of marble and they're just chipping away what was 487 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 1: already in there all along. It's very similar with bonsai 488 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: as well. You go in, you find the plant that 489 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: kind of suits your needs a little bit, and then yeah, 490 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: you dig down and you want to find the first 491 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: roots that come off of this, off of the trunk, 492 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: and that's where that's what's called the crown, right, That's right, 493 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: And as long as those are pretty healthy looking and intact, 494 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: it's probably a pretty good bet that you can turn 495 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: that thing into a bonsai. That's right. And you should 496 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: remember too that, um, the more you want to alter 497 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: the tree, the probably younger and smaller it should be 498 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: to begin with, um, because you can only do so much. 499 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: You know. You can't take a tree that's like stick 500 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: straight and be like, all right now, I want it 501 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: to cascade all the way back down. I yeah, you 502 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: might be too, but it would take decades to get 503 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: it to grow like that. I would say you'd have 504 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: to be a bonsai master, Yeah, you would. In order 505 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: to do that again like Mr. Miyagi, But these exposed roots, 506 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: um it's gonna give the appearance if you want to 507 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: have that age look like it's an ancient tree. Maybe 508 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: ancient trees usually have these great, big roots that you 509 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: see sort of on top of the ground. So that's 510 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: a neat thing you can do with your bondsai um plus. 511 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: Also it's great when you dig down to the those 512 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: top roots that form the crown where the trunk ends 513 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: and the roots, the real roots begin. There's gonna be 514 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: plenty of fewer roots above that, and you're actually gonna 515 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: want to trim those away, but it gives the what 516 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: was once a pretty short plant suddenly has a trunk now, 517 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, okay, wow, I see where this 518 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: is coming from, starting to take shape just right out 519 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: of the gate. Yeah. And what you're doing what I mean, 520 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: we'll talk about pruning in a bit, but how you're 521 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: shaping this is with wire either with like aluminum or 522 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: copper wiring that you can leave on to bend the 523 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: tree to your will up to like a year. But 524 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: you want to be careful and not make it too 525 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: tight because it can actually cut into the tree, which 526 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: you don't want at all and um, so you keep 527 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: it on your wiring. And the idea is that again 528 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: with harmony, you don't want branches a mess of branches 529 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: obscuring one another. You want each branch to have have 530 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: sort of its own personality exactly. Yeah. So you want 531 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: to talk about how to how to start a bonds eyelet? Okay, 532 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: so you go in, you find your you find your 533 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: plan and by the way, um, well we're going to 534 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: kind of give you a step by step. But I 535 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: found a really good website called Bondsay for Beginners dot 536 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: com um and they have a really really good, really 537 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: well written even though there's lots of misspelled words, but 538 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: just it's really understandable. For the number four, it's like 539 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: f O R E no bonds I four beginners. Wow. Yeah, 540 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: I don't remember if it is the number four. I 541 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: don't think it is. Okay, just look it up and 542 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: if it's somebody from New Zealand writing, you found the 543 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: right one. Um. But they they they basically have a 544 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: great step by step of how to do it all. Right, 545 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: So you want to buy a tree. A good time 546 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: of the year to do this is to go in 547 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: the spring when the the growing cycle begins, uh, and 548 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: go to your nursery and uh, like you said, you 549 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: you're looking for whatever tree that fits your mind's eye 550 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: of what you eventually want. And it saysn't here to 551 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: start with your scene and work towards that. I think 552 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: I would be more inclined to sort of freeform a 553 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: little bit, you know, over the years, which I'm sure 554 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: is fine, right, gonna be the bad boy of the 555 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: bonds I world. Aren't you never know what I'm gonna 556 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: do next? Exhibitions wearing like a motorcycle jacket possibly. Uh 557 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: So the price is gonna vary depending on what kind 558 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: of tree you're getting. Um, and of course I looked 559 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: up to kits there. You know, they can be fifty 560 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: to a couple hundred bucks depending on the kind of tree. 561 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: And like how finished looking at is right? Or I 562 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: mean like it can you can go spend ten to 563 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: twenty on like a say, like a juniper and then 564 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: and there are plenty of bonsai tools that you can buy. 565 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: The Internet will be happy to take your money for that. 566 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: But you can also make do with other stuff like 567 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: florists wire. You can get the copper wire you need 568 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: from probably a hardware store piers. There's yeah, pliers, Uh, scissors, 569 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: scissors smaller the better, um scissors exactly um. And then 570 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: you're also gonna want like a root rake um, which 571 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,719 Speaker 1: you can just bend a fork and bam, you got 572 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: a root rake boom. So you've got your plant or 573 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: where you're saying, it's a juniper, you're gonna dig down, 574 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,239 Speaker 1: you're going to um, You're gonna basically take it out, 575 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: put it on the table in front of you. You 576 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: want a spray, bottle of water, and take a right 577 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: get started traditionally exactly you go and then you you 578 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: get started. Um. So you take the dirt off of 579 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: the top layer all the way down to the crown. 580 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: And again there's a bunch of feet of roots which 581 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,479 Speaker 1: you want to trim from the trunk itself. And then 582 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: you you take a look at the roots like you 583 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: you scraped the dirt away, and you really look at 584 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: the roots structure, and you say, I gotta get rid 585 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: of a lot of this. Yeah. And you should already 586 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: have your your pot at this point, by the way, 587 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: because this is the first step is the uh potting right. 588 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: And I've seen people, usually especially beginners, make the mistake 589 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: when they're first creating a bond's eye that, Um, they 590 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: go real small with the pot. You're gonna go through 591 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: a couple of pots in the first few years. Um, 592 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: so they say, don't be afraid to use a big pot. 593 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, you should probably use a 594 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: bigger pot than you think you should for its first pots. Eventually, 595 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: three or four years down the road, you're going to 596 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 1: finally come to that that one pot that this thing 597 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: stays in for the rest of its life, and you're 598 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: gonna repot it every couple of years, but you're gonna 599 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: repot it in the same pot. Yeah, you're gonna be 600 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: a flea market and it's gonna just there's gonna be 601 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: a golden light shine around this one pot. And you're 602 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: gonna say that things twenty dollars and James Brown is 603 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: gonna be like, dude, you see the love, and then 604 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: you'll talk him down to fourteen dollars and then up 605 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: to seventeen, and then you'll meet at the middle of 606 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: fifteen and then you've got your pot. That'll be a 607 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: great day. Uh. All right, So you're at the roots, 608 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: I think. Yeah, So when you trim the roots away, 609 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: I was really surprised by this. You want to trim 610 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: about two thirds of the roots present on your plant 611 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: when you buy it. Yeah, it even says in here 612 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 1: that seems extreme, but don't fret. No, Um, And the 613 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 1: roots you really want to go after the bigger ones, 614 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: the more established ones. You want to leave some at 615 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 1: the top at that crown. But um, especially if you're 616 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: dealing with a tree and it has a tap root, 617 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: that root that goes like straight down, that's actually not 618 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: as much for watering as it is for stability, and 619 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 1: you don't need it in your tiny, little shallow pot. 620 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 1: So you want to get rid of roots like that. Yep, 621 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: you've got your pot. Um, you want to put a 622 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 1: little thin layer of gravel for draining. Um. Yeah, and 623 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: that's another big thing. Your pot has to have drainage holes, 624 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: good ones. Yeah. Well you're the lawn watering expert. You 625 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: don't want a quarter quarter into water over it just 626 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 1: standing all right. So you've got your pot, you've got 627 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: your gravel down there. Um, you've trimmed your roots, and 628 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 1: you need your soil mixture. Yeah, this is a it's 629 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: a big one. And there are different um schools of 630 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: thought on what kind of soil it says in here, 631 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: um equal parts uh, sand, peat and loam. Yeah, that's 632 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,839 Speaker 1: I guess that's like a general generic go to bonds eyes. 633 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: But you want soil specific to your tree. Like if 634 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 1: you have a juniper, that's gonna probably be different soil 635 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 1: than what like olive tree needs. And so you just 636 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,760 Speaker 1: need to find out about the plant that your bonds 637 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: eyeing and find out what kind of soil it likes, 638 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: how much water it needs, what kind of nutrients it takes, um, 639 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: and what kind of sunlight it needs. Especially that's right, 640 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,919 Speaker 1: it's a big one. So you stick that sucker in there. 641 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: You've got your trimmed roots, and you want to spread 642 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: them out really evenly. Um, you know, towards the edges 643 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: of the pot. Yeah, of the container, um, through like 644 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 1: just all throughout the container. You want the roots going down. Yeah, 645 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 1: And I don't think we mentioned you should run a 646 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: wire up through the drainage hole to support the tree. Initially, Yeah, 647 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: this is a big one, um, And this this wire, 648 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: this is it's going to support the tree. But also 649 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 1: if you're gonna bend the tree, so you're doing a 650 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: cascade or a semi cascade or anything like that exactly 651 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna use that wire, um to, You're gonna go 652 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,800 Speaker 1: train it around the trunk and then bend the wire 653 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: and it's gonna bend the poor plant with it, and 654 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna leave it on there for like a month 655 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 1: or so at least, But you want to keep a 656 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: really close eye on it because the tree will start 657 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,760 Speaker 1: to grow around it and it will be forever scarred. 658 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 1: And as far as bonds eye is concerned, you're just 659 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: ruined your plants. So you want to keep a close 660 00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 1: eye on it. Um. You want to make it tight it. 661 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 1: You want to make it tight enough so that when 662 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 1: you bend it, it's going to bend the tree with it, 663 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: but not so tight that it bites into or damages 664 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 1: the tree. That's right, And um, yeah, you want to 665 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: keep a really close eye on it to make sure 666 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: the tree doesn't grow. And then when it's done after 667 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: a month, maybe longer, this article says up to a year. 668 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 1: But all right, I didn't see that anywhere else. Um, 669 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 1: you want to clip clip it away like you're not 670 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: gonna unwind it or else, You're probably just gonna break 671 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:26,959 Speaker 1: your bonds up right, and hopefully your tree you won't 672 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 1: go and pop back into place, and if it does, 673 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 1: you just have to redo it again. Patients, my friend, patience, 674 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 1: that's right, they say in the article Patients is the 675 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 1: best tool that you can have in your arsenal Right. Um, 676 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: so you get the wire sticking up through the drain there, 677 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: that's right, And um, you're for as far as the 678 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 1: soil you want it to be. You want to tap 679 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 1: it and kind of you know, shake the pot around 680 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: to remove the air pockets, firm it around the base 681 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: of the tree. But you don't want it so packed 682 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: in that you know, the water's got to go through 683 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 1: and drain all the way through and out right, Well, 684 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: you want well draining. Well, one thing I saw was 685 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: three parts potting soil to one part like miniature gravel basically, 686 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 1: so the soil is gonna drain. Well, apparently you do 687 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: want it kind of packed because that that tree does 688 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 1: not have stability with its roots, so it's going to 689 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 1: rely on the dirt more than it normally would. Yeah, 690 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 1: especially around the trunk um and then but yeah, you 691 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 1: want to shake it to get the air pockets out 692 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 1: for sure, that's right. Um. A lot of people also 693 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: put additional gravel on top to keep the dirt in 694 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: place when it's water like that. Yeah, and it looks 695 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 1: nice to agreed. Uh, So you don't want to do 696 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: that and then go throw it out in the full 697 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 1: sun all day long in July. What you want to 698 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 1: do is start it in a shady spot for about 699 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 1: a week and let it get used to be in 700 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 1: shorter rooted and then a weird new container, and let 701 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,359 Speaker 1: it accept the fact that it's. Um, I know, I'm 702 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 1: gonna be small. This is gonna hurt. I'm gonna be small. 703 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 1: I'm never gonna be a big, big daddy. And once 704 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 1: it gets over that and accepts its fate, um, and 705 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 1: it says, you know what, I actually like this because 706 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,359 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a beautiful work of art and get 707 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 1: lots of care and attention. Now you can move me 708 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 1: into the sun a little bit at a time, a 709 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,399 Speaker 1: couple of hours at a time, yeah, sir or ma'am, 710 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 1: thank you master, and um since yes, since ay and 711 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 1: then uh yeah, a couple of hours in the morning, 712 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 1: and then before you know it, you can have that 713 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 1: that bad boy out there. Like weathering all kinds of weather, 714 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 1: weathering the wet, normal weather, like it normally would Yeah. Um, 715 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,360 Speaker 1: and your plants gonna tell you whether it's happy or 716 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 1: not happy. I think with buns I in particular, you're 717 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 1: gonna notice like every little change in your plant because 718 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 1: you're really concentrating on it and focusing on it, and 719 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,839 Speaker 1: all the rest of your plans are gonna hate you. Yeah, 720 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: gonna be like remember me, your spider plants gonna be 721 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: like growing around your throat, just closing off your airway. 722 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,839 Speaker 1: So watch out for your spider plant. Agreed. Um, And 723 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: I should say one more thing took when you first 724 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 1: pot your plant, Um, you the first watering, you should 725 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: basically take it in like a tray or a pan 726 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 1: or a bucket of water and submerge it to the 727 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 1: soil level and just let it sit there. Are you sure? Yeah? 728 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 1: All right, this is what I've seen. Don't like plunk 729 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 1: it in there, slowly submerge it in there, and that 730 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: water is going to make sure that every route gets 731 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 1: its water, and um, it's going to fill in any 732 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 1: air pockets that are in there. So it's really going 733 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:28,879 Speaker 1: to basically solidify your soil and pack it in and 734 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 1: just get it ready very nice, pretty neat, right, super 735 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: neat should we take a break. All right, we're gonna 736 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 1: come back and talk a little bit more about BONDSAI 737 00:40:37,520 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 1: care and shaping, which is where the money is. So 738 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 1: check you got your bonds Eye. You are. You've moved 739 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 1: it back on into the sunlight. It's basically accepted its 740 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 1: fate as a smaller version of itself. You've named it 741 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:20,760 Speaker 1: right right now? Yeah? Uh, Alan, mind's Roy. So Allan 742 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,360 Speaker 1: and Roy, the Bonds Eye twins are hanging out outside 743 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 1: um when you first pot it. You can also prepare 744 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:32,360 Speaker 1: the limbs to um where you're basically trimming the limbs 745 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,920 Speaker 1: back one going. So remember there's one in the front. 746 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,959 Speaker 1: There's a front and the back to it, right, Yeah, 747 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 1: which you should establish and stick to a right typically 748 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 1: with bonds I. In traditional bonds I, the first the 749 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 1: first um limb is about a third of the way 750 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,839 Speaker 1: up from the dirt, uh, and it's going to jut 751 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: out to the right. Second one is going to jut 752 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 1: out the opposite direction. But it's not going to be 753 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,720 Speaker 1: even with the other one. It's gonna be another about 754 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 1: third of the way up. You don't you don't ever, 755 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 1: You rarely want um limbs even with one another. It's 756 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,359 Speaker 1: called a bar that's unsightly exactly. UM. So the next 757 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 1: one shuts out the opposite direction, and the third one 758 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: is about another third way up, and that juts out 759 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,320 Speaker 1: towards the back, So it gives the impression of distance, 760 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,800 Speaker 1: of perspective and bowing and growing out the back, balance 761 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,839 Speaker 1: and harmony. UM. And you do this by you can 762 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 1: take that same wire, different lighter wire, depending on the 763 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 1: size of the limb, and bend them in the ways 764 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 1: that you want. But more often than not, you're going 765 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 1: to be creating these illusions or this this pattern by 766 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 1: trimming your bond's eye. And like you said, this is 767 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 1: where the money is. This is where when you think 768 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,399 Speaker 1: of bonds eye, this is what I think of a 769 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 1: little Japanese people like trimming the limbs off of tiny plants. Yeah, 770 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 1: and it's UM again. You're you're striving to make it 771 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 1: look like something larger that you would find in nature. Sure, 772 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,719 Speaker 1: you could get super weird and avant garde with your 773 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 1: form and your shape, but in general, traditionally, UM, you 774 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,319 Speaker 1: wanted to take a form that you would find out 775 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 1: in the wild somewhere on a smaller scale. But that 776 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:15,840 Speaker 1: that is the that's the UM effect. Of wind, of sun, 777 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 1: of weird weather, of poor soil, of just the weirder 778 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 1: looking the tree out in nature basically the harder the 779 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 1: heart of the life that's had and you're trying to 780 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 1: recreate that nurturing pretty kind of counterintuitive, but if you 781 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 1: just stop and think about what you're looking at in 782 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 1: nature that you're trying to emulate, you'll probably figure out 783 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 1: different ways to do it. And if you haven't figured 784 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,720 Speaker 1: it out, somebody's probably been doing it for a thousand 785 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,959 Speaker 1: years already, and you can go get yourself a book 786 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 1: or look on the internet to find a technique. Yeah. So, 787 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 1: like you said, with the wind, like the win the 788 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 1: real tree and real life that's on the mountaintop, the 789 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,319 Speaker 1: wind is trying to kill it and it's leaning out 790 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,880 Speaker 1: over the edge of the cliff like, oh man, my 791 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 1: days are numbered. Um, But you nurture that in your 792 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 1: own bonds eye and you emulate that, and it's um, 793 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:06,319 Speaker 1: I don't know. I like the idea of it for 794 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 1: some reason. It's like a tribute almost. Yeah, it's an 795 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 1: homage to that tree that's hanging on by a route. Yeah, 796 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,760 Speaker 1: when it comes to light, Um, you want to rotate 797 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 1: it around you don't want it getting the same it's 798 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,279 Speaker 1: the same side exposure to sunlight every single day. You 799 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 1: want to you want to rotate it around. You want 800 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 1: to keep an eye out for bugs and insects, Yeah, 801 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 1: for sure. And again you're paying attention to your bonds 802 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,760 Speaker 1: any more than your other plants, so you're gonna notice, 803 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 1: like if it suddenly has an insect infestation. Yeah, a 804 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,759 Speaker 1: little larva uh what they called spittlebugs black or red 805 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 1: dots of mites. Uh says you can brush these away. Um. 806 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 1: I imagine you could smash them with a framing hammer 807 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 1: if you wanted. After you brush them off. Um, But 808 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,760 Speaker 1: a bit in the Japanese bondsi tradition, you're you're probably 809 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 1: brushing them away a little paint brush, right like you 810 00:44:56,120 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 1: go and go hit the spider plant. Hey, tiers are 811 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 1: okay man, they eat the little bugs for you. The 812 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 1: spider plant, I mean the spider plant. Yeah. Yeah, Well 813 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:08,799 Speaker 1: you gotta watch out for that thing. It's trying to 814 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 1: kill you and your whole family exactly. So that's where 815 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,879 Speaker 1: you need to funnel your spittlebugs. Watering is another big 816 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 1: one too. You depending on how hot it is outside, 817 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,799 Speaker 1: you may end up needing to water your bonds eye 818 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,399 Speaker 1: like two times a day, which means if you're into 819 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,799 Speaker 1: bonds eye, you probably don't leave your house very much. 820 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 1: You most likely want to bonds or water your bonds 821 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,399 Speaker 1: eye every day, depending on again the plant, but most 822 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,880 Speaker 1: bonds I need watering every single day and twice on 823 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,920 Speaker 1: hot days. Yeah, And what you don't want is um 824 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 1: you know, as you're paying attention to it, you don't 825 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 1: want to a soggy, boggy base. That's a really bad sign. 826 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 1: That means you probably didn't put down enough gravel on 827 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,760 Speaker 1: the bottom, or your soil mix doesn't have enough gravel 828 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 1: or whatever mixed in to make it drain quickly. Because 829 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 1: it's tough to over water a well draining potted plant 830 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:02,319 Speaker 1: of any type, including SI, you're probably gonna be doing 831 00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 1: more pruning early on in the life of the bondsai. 832 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,239 Speaker 1: And once it has that general shape that you like, 833 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 1: that's when you're doing uh, you know, just the subtle 834 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,360 Speaker 1: changes that probably mean a lot to you. Um. But 835 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 1: other friends that come over at you know, happy hour, 836 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:23,719 Speaker 1: they'll just say, hey, nice tree, there's yeah, you got 837 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 1: a ice, And they don't realize that. They don't realize 838 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,439 Speaker 1: all the subtle little you know, you might clip away one, 839 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,920 Speaker 1: you know, a half of an inch of a branch. 840 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,520 Speaker 1: To you that that makes it just perfect that other 841 00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:43,359 Speaker 1: people would probably not even notice. That's why it's your 842 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,439 Speaker 1: bonds eye. That's right, Josh, That's why I was thinking 843 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 1: about it, like like giving the gift of a bond's 844 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,520 Speaker 1: eye to somebody. Yeah, that you've tended to for years 845 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,120 Speaker 1: and years and years. That's that's a significant gift. Yeah, 846 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:57,600 Speaker 1: it's like and here's my my daughter. Yeah, you know right, 847 00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 1: well not really, but you know what I mean, Marry 848 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 1: this plant, don't you marry it? You're also gonna keep 849 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 1: up with the fertilizer. Again, like this is so this 850 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 1: is almost such a generic overview in some places that 851 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,200 Speaker 1: I feel bad even saying it. But just go find 852 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:19,000 Speaker 1: out what the plant that you're raising needs. Normally do that, 853 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,080 Speaker 1: but again you have to bear in mind that it's 854 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 1: slightly different because you're you're keeping it in miniature. It 855 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,279 Speaker 1: doesn't have its normal roots system. It needs more water 856 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:32,440 Speaker 1: than usual, and um, it's probably because you're watering it 857 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,319 Speaker 1: so much. The nutrients in the soil are gonna leach 858 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 1: out much more quickly, so you need to fertilize it 859 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 1: more than you would just if you were growing it 860 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 1: normally in a container. Right, So since you're fertilizing something 861 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 1: more usually the rule of thumb, as you want to 862 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:50,239 Speaker 1: you want to fertilize something weekly weekly, so w E 863 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:54,879 Speaker 1: A K L Y weekly um, and and that way 864 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 1: you're constantly replenishing the nutrients in the soil. But you're 865 00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,840 Speaker 1: not gonna like burn or scorch theos with like a 866 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 1: chemical burn over feeding it. Yeah, and again you pointed 867 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,440 Speaker 1: out earlier, but I think it bears in mind repeating. 868 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:10,520 Speaker 1: The key is repotting and trimming those roots every couple 869 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,920 Speaker 1: of years. And like you said, once you find the 870 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:14,799 Speaker 1: pot at the flea market that you fell in love 871 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,799 Speaker 1: with and can keep it in that pot forever, as 872 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 1: long as it's you know, the one you want to 873 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,360 Speaker 1: stay with him, you can do what you want, but 874 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,440 Speaker 1: um or give it as a gift, or give it 875 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,799 Speaker 1: as a gift. But as you uh, as you keep 876 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,359 Speaker 1: trimming these roots back, it's gonna stay that size. If 877 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,080 Speaker 1: you forget about it. If you're a hoarder and you 878 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,360 Speaker 1: and you and you're drunk and you pass out for 879 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,120 Speaker 1: ten years, you're gonna wake up with a twelve ft 880 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 1: oak tree in your living room. That's the story of 881 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:44,359 Speaker 1: Peppy van Winkle, Is that? Yeah? I guess that is true, 882 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:48,400 Speaker 1: isn't it, Because yeah, you're basically once it becomes established 883 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,920 Speaker 1: to the shape you want it, you're just basically pruning 884 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,359 Speaker 1: it back here they're keeping it trimmed. And then when 885 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 1: you repotted every couple of years, like the whole point 886 00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,400 Speaker 1: is to keep the root system in check. Huh. So 887 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 1: if you didn't do that, yeah, it would just probably 888 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,960 Speaker 1: it would what it would do because yeah, no water, 889 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,759 Speaker 1: there would be so many roots in a pot that 890 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 1: doesn't fit them. I'd probably look cool would be growing 891 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 1: over it. And that's some that's basic stuff that we've 892 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,960 Speaker 1: been talking about. But there is a lot of advanced 893 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:18,719 Speaker 1: things you can do too, and one of those is 894 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:22,000 Speaker 1: like again, training it to grow over rocks. So like 895 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,279 Speaker 1: when you potted the bonds eye, you would want a 896 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,520 Speaker 1: bonsaie with really long roots, um so that you could 897 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,759 Speaker 1: when you when you're potting it, you would actually place 898 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,919 Speaker 1: it on a rock and then why are the roots 899 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,000 Speaker 1: in place to let them start to establish in the pots? 900 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,799 Speaker 1: Just things like that. There's something called um gin which 901 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,279 Speaker 1: is basically this is really neil. But you saw it. 902 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:42,880 Speaker 1: Did you see a lot of bonds I that had 903 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:47,000 Speaker 1: like dead wood exposed. Okay, so gin is where at 904 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,600 Speaker 1: the top of the trunk or at the ends of limbs, 905 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,800 Speaker 1: deadwood is exposed to just really play up how old 906 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 1: this thing is supposed to be or actually is. Um 907 00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,800 Speaker 1: there's something called shari, which is deadwood on the trunk 908 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,000 Speaker 1: a low. And then there's something called sabamiki, and that's 909 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,800 Speaker 1: like you actually get in there and peel away the 910 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:12,759 Speaker 1: the bark, drill into the trunk and carve holes into it, 911 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,520 Speaker 1: carved like a gap into it to create the illusion 912 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,640 Speaker 1: that it was scarred from like a lightning strike. And 913 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,560 Speaker 1: you you've got to be really careful doing that because 914 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,480 Speaker 1: you can very easily kill your bonsaie. But if you 915 00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,560 Speaker 1: do it right, it'll grow back and scar around it 916 00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,839 Speaker 1: and you'll have a pretty interesting looking tree. So that's 917 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:33,279 Speaker 1: not recommended for beginners, I would not think so. I 918 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,239 Speaker 1: think you'd kill a lot of plants doing that that way. 919 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,800 Speaker 1: So and and again, people have been trying this stuff 920 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,840 Speaker 1: for a couple of thousand years now, so there's a 921 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:43,640 Speaker 1: lot of different stuff you can do. In a lot 922 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:47,000 Speaker 1: of different resources out there. Yeah, go to your local 923 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,560 Speaker 1: japan town and say teach me. And you know what, 924 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:56,920 Speaker 1: if the movie uh A Kid Lost in Translation is true, 925 00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,440 Speaker 1: then if you're a pretty American girl, you and wander 926 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:04,759 Speaker 1: into any Japanese ceremony and they will just accept you 927 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,560 Speaker 1: with open arms. Yeah that's why they're known for. Yeah. Yeah, 928 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:11,239 Speaker 1: probably so right to a certain degree. Sure you're not 929 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,799 Speaker 1: a jerk? Well, yeah, like what does she walk into? 930 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,719 Speaker 1: Was her origami or was that bonsa? I don't know, 931 00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,759 Speaker 1: I don't remember. Was it a wedding? No, Scarlett Joe 932 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:23,439 Speaker 1: Hanson walking out there, these Japanese women doing some either 933 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,239 Speaker 1: bonsai or origami or something. They were like, oh, well, 934 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,440 Speaker 1: you know, come on in and let me show you 935 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,799 Speaker 1: our ancient ways. Yeah, I don't remember that part. Yeah 936 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,040 Speaker 1: that was neat. I like that movie a lot too, 937 00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:39,200 Speaker 1: Wasn't isn't the legend around it that Bill Murray's actually 938 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:43,640 Speaker 1: playing himself like it's based on an experience, Sofia Coppola had, Yeah, 939 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,640 Speaker 1: I bet it's not too far off, and so like 940 00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:51,400 Speaker 1: uh Giovanni Ribisi is um, Spike Jones sparely, Joe Hansen 941 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:56,840 Speaker 1: is um Sofia Coppola. Um, uh Anna Faris is Cameron Diaz. 942 00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,120 Speaker 1: One dude is justin Timberlake, and so like this actually 943 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,200 Speaker 1: supposedly happened. But then it's everyone says, well, who's Bill 944 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:07,040 Speaker 1: Murray playing? Allegedly Bill Murray is playing himself. That makes sense. 945 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,759 Speaker 1: I mean, we'll never know what he whispers at the end, either, 946 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,080 Speaker 1: which I love. That was a great movie. I forgot 947 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,200 Speaker 1: about that one. Make it Santry time. She's a part 948 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:20,120 Speaker 1: of my hundred percent club, Sofia. The directors who have 949 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:24,160 Speaker 1: made nothing but great movies. I think I've only seen 950 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,400 Speaker 1: that and the Vergson Suicide's great movie. What else does 951 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:31,600 Speaker 1: she made? She did Um the Blame Ring recently. Never 952 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:35,440 Speaker 1: thought really good. Don't be turned off by the title, Yeah, 953 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,560 Speaker 1: because I have been um. And she did the one 954 00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:42,879 Speaker 1: with Stephen Dorff. Oh, I can't remember where he's the actor, 955 00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,400 Speaker 1: just sort of hold up in the Chateau Marmont before 956 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:50,279 Speaker 1: with his daughter now before Sunrise before Tomorrow. Nope. And 957 00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:55,240 Speaker 1: she did the one the let the meat Cake, Uh, 958 00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,759 Speaker 1: Marie Antoinette movie with Kirsten Dunns. It was fantastic. I 959 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,879 Speaker 1: never saw that one either. They're all great I think 960 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:04,359 Speaker 1: she's top notch. I'll check him out. Uh. If you 961 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,319 Speaker 1: want to know more about Bonsai or Sofia Coppola, you 962 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,200 Speaker 1: can type those words in the search part house to 963 00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,000 Speaker 1: works dot com. And since I said that it's time 964 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:18,240 Speaker 1: for listening out, yes, I'm gonna call this uh tornado 965 00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:22,440 Speaker 1: miss already. That thing just came out today. And you 966 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,239 Speaker 1: know what, I hope everyone's all right because there are 967 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,160 Speaker 1: tornadoes like kind of all over the place. The yeah, 968 00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:31,520 Speaker 1: I heard Oklahoma's Canadas. Hey, guys love the show. You 969 00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,480 Speaker 1: mentioned tornado miss episode that I bet you would get 970 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,160 Speaker 1: an email from a civil engineer, and here I am. 971 00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,360 Speaker 1: I just wanted to share an interesting fact about designing 972 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,880 Speaker 1: wind resistant buildings. I remember the day of the two 973 00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,160 Speaker 1: thousand and eight downtown Atlanta tornado you mentioned because it 974 00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,600 Speaker 1: was actually the last day of classes at Georgia Tech 975 00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,520 Speaker 1: before I went out, before I went home to Florida 976 00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,239 Speaker 1: for spring break. Ironically, I just learned in one of 977 00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,120 Speaker 1: my classes that one reason most skyscrapers are not the 978 00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,719 Speaker 1: same basic shape from top to bottom is to alleviate 979 00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,440 Speaker 1: pressure from wind. In the same class, for fessor had 980 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,919 Speaker 1: mentioned that one of the absolute worst structural designs where 981 00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,840 Speaker 1: skyscraper is a perfect cylinder, which is what our Peachtree 982 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,399 Speaker 1: Plaza is that had the windows up for so long. 983 00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,600 Speaker 1: It's a cylinder. The wind whips all around, it ends 984 00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,200 Speaker 1: up hitting the entire face of the building as a 985 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,759 Speaker 1: giant wall of forts, rather than hitting the building at 986 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,880 Speaker 1: different places over time. Not ideal for a glass tube 987 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,239 Speaker 1: of the building. Anyway, I thought you guys would find 988 00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,680 Speaker 1: that interesting. You are the best thing to come out 989 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:29,680 Speaker 1: of Athens in my Georgia tech opinion. Oh wow, I 990 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,960 Speaker 1: see where that was going. Keep up the good work. 991 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,760 Speaker 1: And that is from Scooter Sheldon. Thanks a lot, Scooter, 992 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,520 Speaker 1: Scooter Salvin. I don't know about the best thing to 993 00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:42,000 Speaker 1: come out of Athens. 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