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Speaker 1: We do have new pulling data out from the NAACP

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Speaker 1: which actually finds that Donald Trump support among Black men

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Speaker 1: under the age of fifty is dwindling, dropping from twenty

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Speaker 1: seven percent when they asked the same question in a

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Speaker 1: survey last month to now twenty one percent. In the meantime,

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris's support among this block has jumped from fifty

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Speaker 1: one percent to fifty nine percent over that same timeframe.

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Speaker 1: So for more on what's really going on here with

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Speaker 1: this important demographic, we turn to Derek Johnson, the president

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Speaker 1: of the NAACP. Thank you so much for being with

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Speaker 1: us here on Bloomberg TV and Radio. There's just a

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Speaker 1: week left to go to change the minds of black men,

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Speaker 1: of black voters in general. What are you seeing in

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Speaker 1: real time.

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Speaker 2: Well, it is the trend of what happens during this

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Speaker 2: stage of election cycle. After Labor Day, people slowly begin

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Speaker 2: to pick more attention to average vulner nicols. We get

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Speaker 2: to the election day, we are finding, as we've always

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Speaker 2: found that as people pay attention to educate themselves around

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Speaker 2: what's important, this election isn't about the individual candidates.

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Speaker 3: It's not even about the political parties. It's about the

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Speaker 3: public policy priorities, and the more young.

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Speaker 2: African American voters, particularly those who are under fifty, get

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Speaker 2: factual information about what's at stake, we begin to see

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Speaker 2: a shift, a gradual shift towards Vice President Harris. It

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Speaker 2: was to be expected because during this period of time,

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Speaker 2: this is what always happened. But it's really important that

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Speaker 2: those voters are spoken with, they listened to, and they

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Speaker 2: as they understand the value and the portance of their vote.

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Speaker 4: Director Johnson, it's good to have you back on Bloomberg

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Speaker 4: TV and radio. You know, the narrative that we heard

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Speaker 4: over the summer to your point before Labor Day, although

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Speaker 4: a little bit after the story was that young men

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Speaker 4: of color were gravitating toward Donald Trump, that this is

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Speaker 4: a Republican nominee that was accomplishing something that the GOP

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Speaker 4: was not used to making in ruads with the community

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Speaker 4: that was typically not favorable to the Republican candidate or

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Speaker 4: the nominee in this case. Does he deserve some credit

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Speaker 4: as a Republican for crossing those lines to break through

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Speaker 4: with young black men.

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Speaker 2: Well in Benniti, your question is if that was a

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Speaker 2: factual statement I have heard over the last five election

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Speaker 2: cycles about this drifting of core Democratic voters in one

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Speaker 2: direction as a result of some strategy from the Republican Party.

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Speaker 2: I recall hearing it in two thousand and two thousand

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Speaker 2: some of the same narrative.

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Speaker 3: Around the American community broadly.

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Speaker 2: Speaking, particularly twenty twelve and twenty sixteen, especially twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 2: And so that's a narrative that's great for media consumption,

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Speaker 2: but I have yet to find any factual basis.

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Speaker 3: For much of the narrative.

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Speaker 2: The poem we did is a random sample, and originally

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Speaker 2: it was a question around voters under few African Americans

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Speaker 2: who failed, no one was speaking to them.

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Speaker 3: They are not being heard and the ones of their vote.

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Speaker 3: But as you.

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Speaker 2: Close the timeline passed Labor Day, as voters are spoken to,

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Speaker 2: they are being heard and they understand the impact and

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Speaker 2: importance of their vote as relates to the public policy

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Speaker 2: issues that are on the table, we begin to see

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Speaker 2: the natural shift as we have identified in our pole,

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Speaker 2: and oppolling is only a snap shot in time.

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Speaker 3: This was early October.

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Speaker 2: Now we've analyzed the pole considering what happened last week

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Speaker 2: and particularly Sunday, there's even a greater shift I will

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Speaker 1: As you allude to Sunday, there obviously were a number

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Speaker 1: of racist remarks made at the Madison Square Garden rally

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Speaker 1: for Donald Trump, not necessarily by the former president, but

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Speaker 1: by many of those who spoke before him. What do

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Speaker 1: you make of where we are rhetorically right now, Derek,

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Speaker 1: and what the signals about the way the country can

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Speaker 1: move forward toward the advancement of all people, colored people included.

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Speaker 2: Well, we've gone from the loss of stability in our

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Speaker 2: public discorce around vible candidates to the laws of supporting

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Speaker 2: the importance of democracy.

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Speaker 3: What we witnessed on Sunday was a show of fascists.

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Speaker 5: You know, I just completed Robert Carroll's book on LBJ

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Speaker 5: and he talks about the Nazi gathering in the thirties

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Speaker 5: as a backlash of the New Deal policies.

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Speaker 2: And what he describes in his book and what I

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Speaker 2: see that took place in matters since where gardens is

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Speaker 2: very similar.

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Speaker 3: You talking about appealing.

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Speaker 2: To the lowest comedy nominator around the racial construct and

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Speaker 2: ethnic background across the board. That has nothing to do

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Speaker 2: with strengthening our democracy or the traditional debate around the

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Speaker 2: role of government and taxi that is about creating a

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Speaker 2: space of other whole communities and dehumanizing people than joke.

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Speaker 4: What's interesting we heard from jd Vance, of course Donald

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Speaker 4: Trump's running mate on this, and he is obviously taking

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Speaker 4: a different tact than you are in this case, Director Johnson.

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Speaker 4: We're just getting this ready because he was asked about

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Speaker 4: it and spoke to some of the offensive rhetoric that

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Speaker 4: we heard at Madison Square Garden, remembering that he was there.

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Speaker 4: He had a speaking role in this five hour rally,

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Speaker 4: and even though he claims he didn't hear this joke,

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Speaker 4: he reacted to the overall criticism.

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Speaker 6: Here he is and my own view on this is,

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Speaker 6: look again, I haven't seen the joke. You know, maybe

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Speaker 6: it's a stupid racist joke, as you said, maybe it's not.

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Speaker 3: I haven't seen it.

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Speaker 6: I'm not going to comment on the specifics of the joke,

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Speaker 6: but I think that we have to stop getting so

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Speaker 6: offended at every little thing in the United States of America.

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Speaker 6: I'm just I'm so over it.

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Speaker 4: Just want you to react to that, Derek Johnson, that

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Speaker 4: were too easily offended at every little thing in the

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Speaker 4: United States of America.

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Speaker 2: Deny its existence, diminish its impact, pivot back to the message,

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Speaker 2: and then carry on with the message of other rising individuals,

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Speaker 2: the meaning communities and trying to create a space where

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Speaker 2: white supremacy exists. It was the same thing doing the

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Speaker 2: debate that you use three strategic tactics. You call out xenophobia,

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Speaker 2: they're taking our jobs, You put a racialized liss on it,

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Speaker 2: those Haitians, and then you create a reality where you

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Speaker 2: say these individuals are not even human by saying they're

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Speaker 2: eating our dogs and cats. It's a strategy that's tried

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Speaker 2: and true, where you otherise communities to try to prop

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Speaker 2: up and motivate a base to vote against all of

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Speaker 2: these impending, not sub human individuals who are taking something

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Speaker 2: from us. And then when you get caught in that

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Speaker 2: you denied existing, you try to marginalize its impact, and

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Speaker 2: then you pivot back to their message.

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Speaker 1: So that's the messaging we're hearing from one side, Derek.

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Speaker 1: We'll hear more messaging the closing argument as it's being

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Speaker 1: built from Kamala Harris tonight at the Ellipse here in Washington.

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Speaker 1: What does she need to say to black voters.

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't think it's one side versus the other

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Speaker 3: side of this kind.

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Speaker 2: This is those who support democracy and celebrate the diversity

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Speaker 2: that we have wrong into being. You know, I recall

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Speaker 2: being in school that we talked about America is a

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Speaker 2: mixing pot and it brings in ethnic groups and racial

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Speaker 2: diversity from around the globe. Even President, former President Reagan

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Speaker 2: talked about that we celebrate our diversity, that you could

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Speaker 2: be Eastern European, you can be a Catholic or Jewish.

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Speaker 3: But once you've become an American and citizens, we're all America.

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Speaker 3: And that was nineteen eighty the nineteen eighty's Ronald Reagan.

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Speaker 2: Unlike anyone else, they say this is the leader of

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Speaker 2: the party. He's the Shinaga example, and they have the

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Speaker 2: party so far from that example. This evening, I would

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Speaker 2: only think that the Vice President will speak to all

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Speaker 2: Americans to talk about the strength about democracy, the need

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Speaker 2: to protect our democracy as we look forward to a

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Speaker 2: future that's inclusive, productive, and continue to lead this globe

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Speaker 2: as the leading democracy and doing so without tearing anybody

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Speaker 2: down and maligning any particular individual or community.

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Speaker 4: We've only got about thirty seconds left, sir, will Kamala

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Speaker 4: Harris enjoyed the same level of support from Black Americans

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Speaker 4: that Joe Biden did in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: I believe that Americans would turn out to the polls,

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Speaker 2: especially Black Americans, to support what could potentially be the

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Speaker 2: first African and East Asian president female of this country.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate your sharing the new polling info with us. Stay

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Speaker 4: in touch with us. Derek Johnson, of course, President CEO

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Speaker 4: of the NAACP