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Speaker 1: Welcome into Texans All Access on a Tuesday, just wrapped

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Speaker 1: up an hour with Jonathan Garnard and Indie Kalu. You guys, JG, like,

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Speaker 1: if he wasn't a favorite in the locker room, he's now.

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Speaker 1: I think Indie Kalu's favorite as well. I mean, he

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Speaker 1: loves that guy. He goes, I'm going to make my

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Speaker 1: son listen to this whole show because you were so

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Speaker 1: wise beyond your years, which you know what I thought about. Like,

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Speaker 1: JG's still on his rookie contract, isn't that crazy?

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Speaker 2: He is?

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Speaker 3: And I know this because when we do appearances with

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Speaker 3: have so many appearances they can do for the club

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Speaker 2: So it's interesting.

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Speaker 3: This was one of them for Jonathan Garnard, who's a

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Speaker 3: very popular player to have around at appearances, and he

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Speaker 3: had that great first game.

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Speaker 2: In the second game, the defense as.

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Speaker 3: A whole not quite what we're looking for, but it's

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Speaker 3: great to have him on the show and I'm looking

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Speaker 3: forward to Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Great to also have Drew Doherty joining us. That was

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Speaker 1: Mark Vannermuir. I'm dpcity. We're continuing our Tuesday radios, And

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Speaker 1: speaking of if you want to hear that first show

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Speaker 1: Ugly Betty that the three of us I found out watched.

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Speaker 2: I need to see it.

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Speaker 1: I need to check it on Netflix anyway. So we

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Speaker 1: talked a little bit about the jag the previous game

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Speaker 1: against the Colts. Obviously, jg a lot to say about

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Speaker 1: the defense, things that need to be cleaned up, and

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Speaker 1: just wanted to get your guys' thoughts. I know we're

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Speaker 1: going to turn the page to Jacksonville on Wednesday, but

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Speaker 1: now a couple of days out from this game against Indy,

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on really what could be done for this

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Speaker 1: Week three matchup in Jacksonville, which is a place that

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Speaker 1: you know this Texans team loves to play.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Texans haven't lost there since twenty seventeen. Before that,

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Speaker 4: it was twenty thirteen, Before that, it was twenty ten.

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Speaker 4: But what I want to see is more of what

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Speaker 4: we saw from CJ. Stroud last Sunday. I mean, look

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Speaker 4: at all those completions of twenty yards and more. He

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Speaker 4: had seven. Nico Collins was phenomenal going deep, phenomenal catching

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Speaker 4: the ball short and getting extra yardage after the catch.

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Speaker 4: Tank Dell was doing his thing. Tank Dell was the

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Speaker 4: most targeted receiver on Sunday by C. J. Stroud and

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Speaker 4: Robert Woods. A lot of people were saying, oh, Robert

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Speaker 4: Woods is in the twilight of his career.

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Speaker 5: He's done.

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Speaker 4: Look at what he did last year in Tennessee. But

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Speaker 4: you got to remember what he did last year in Tennessee.

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Speaker 4: Who was he playing with, who was throwing him the ball?

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Speaker 4: And he was coming off the knee injury. So that

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Speaker 4: three headed I don't want to call it a monster,

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Speaker 4: but those three, that trinity of receivers, I like what

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Speaker 4: they've been doing. And that's Dalton Schultz hasn't even had

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Speaker 4: to get much into the mix. And everybody kind of

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Speaker 4: thought going into the season, it's going to be lots

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Speaker 4: be not lucky, but you're not gonna see as much

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Speaker 4: from the wide receiver corps. And yes, it is a

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Speaker 4: small sample size, it's only two games in, but goodness,

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Speaker 4: we can see what we saw Sunday on a more

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Speaker 4: consistent basis from this Receiving Corps. Good stuff, really really

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Speaker 3: There's so much to focus on that does need to

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Speaker 2: We all know that.

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Speaker 3: But the biggest takeaway for me is wow, on cea

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Speaker 2: For three eighty four.

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Speaker 3: Look when he sends, when anybody sends me to the

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Speaker 3: And how many times has it happened, whether it's good

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Speaker 3: significant development. And for anybody who says, well garbage time,

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Speaker 3: it's not really garbage time. I know they're down three

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Speaker 3: three years? Lots of it, right in twenty two, in

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Speaker 3: know that all right, whatever, it's just yardage. But the

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Speaker 3: way he read the defense, the way he threw the football,

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Speaker 3: to see him do it in the first half in

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Speaker 2: See if you can do it on the road against

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Speaker 2: the Jaguars.

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Speaker 3: Keep taking steps forward because they might really be onto

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Speaker 2: But so far, so good for CJ.

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Speaker 3: Stroud, which is really the most important thing that you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Dimiko Ryans was saying that, you know his processing speed,

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Speaker 1: week two. Another big thing they wanted to improve at Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: Not a lot of tempo. He thought they offense. Dimiko

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Speaker 1: You think, if he's able to do that with all

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Speaker 2: Wow, And McLean said on Texans Monday, said maybe he

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Speaker 3: No, because of how well he played. I forgot all about.

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Speaker 2: That during the game.

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Speaker 3: I wish that the deficit wasn't what it was, but

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys think it's remarkable what

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Speaker 4: But in that small sample size you go back to

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Speaker 4: and over again. Well, he needs to do this better,

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Speaker 4: but I think we'll see that in the next practice.

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Speaker 4: And then lo and behold, next practice he's doing whatever

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Speaker 4: This was a little bit slow, but he's got to

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Speaker 5: Boom he's picked it up.

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Speaker 4: For first preseason game, he was very slow, relatively speaking,

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Speaker 4: the second, yeah, game, he was he was a lot

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Speaker 4: He fixes things and now he's done that week one

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Speaker 4: and he's starting to show that too. I mean that

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Speaker 3: Well, Johnny swears that he was going for Tank Dell

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Speaker 2: The whole time.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Drew mentions his pedigree from Ohio State. I

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Speaker 1: I thought one of the biggest reasons for optimism coming

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Speaker 1: but he's never even at his healthiest. Had a game

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Speaker 1: Stroud's career. Nico Collins, and I think seeing him tanked

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: I would assume that we're going to start seeing more

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Speaker 1: But I thought he just made the receivers look really

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and what about Nico Collins. When he was picked,

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Speaker 4: much was made of his size, as frame, his stature.

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Speaker 4: get the jump balls and everything, and yeah, okay, he can.

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Speaker 4: And then we saw last year in very limited action

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Speaker 4: He was one of the fastest recorded times in the

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Speaker 1: Everybody's day to day. That's this is why it's concusing.

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Speaker 3: It was all right, do we put them on IR

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Speaker 1: I think is really promising that Jimmy Ward and Jalen

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Speaker 3: Look, I want to get everybody back the running game.

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Speaker 2: You just you're.

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Speaker 2: And nobody foresaw this.

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Speaker 3: But as you said, Deep, maybe you get a guy

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Speaker 1: Well, look who they're facing this week two. They've got

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Speaker 3: to score points early.

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Speaker 2: Got to finish those red zone drives.

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Speaker 3: Put the pressure on the jag So maybe your defense

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Speaker 3: can work with the lead. Imagine that that'd be awesome.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you've got ye Jacksonville, is they? I think

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence I was reading something. He called it an

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Speaker 1: embarrassing loss with all of the weapons they have not

443
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Speaker 1: being able to get into the red zone. It was

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Speaker 1: a weird day for them playing the Chiefs. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I guess the Chiefs had Chris Jones back, but I

446
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Speaker 1: think Jacksonville was sort of surprised at how they weren't

447
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Speaker 1: able to get any points on the board, and how

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Speaker 1: their offense just really sputtered.

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Speaker 3: I talked we too. I talked with the voice of

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Speaker 3: the Jags already. He said that they couldn't block the

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Speaker 3: front of the Chiefs, most notably Chris joneses. They are

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Speaker 3: having some issues along the offensive line. We haven't heard

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Speaker 3: anything about that, but issues along the offensive line.

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Speaker 2: And it's a difficult time to keep Lawrence in the.

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Speaker 3: Pocket, time to throw throw accurately to the weapons he

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Speaker 3: does have. So let's see if the Texans can capitalize

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Speaker 3: there and just take advantage of a situation where the

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Speaker 3: Jaguars are feeling it up front.

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Speaker 1: You talk about jekyln Hyde, how about the Jags in

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Speaker 1: Week one they put up thirty one points and then

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Speaker 1: on Senday against a Chief no touchdowns, zero for three

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Speaker 1: in the red zone. Like that's and it's not like

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Speaker 1: at home at home, and it's it's not like Tarlor

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Speaker 1: Lawrence is a rookie. I mean, if CJ. Stroud died that,

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Speaker 1: you could say, Okay, he's a rookie. He's sort of

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Speaker 1: going through ups and downs. And they've got a second

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Speaker 1: year head coach in Doug Peterson, I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: that they're all sort of scratching their heads down there.

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Speaker 1: So did your guys say, like, what, like, what does

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Speaker 1: he think is going to happen?

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Speaker 3: He thinks that it was a little bit of an

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Speaker 3: aberration game. That I believe that they look at the

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Speaker 3: Texans and say, this is my thought and say, all right,

474
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Speaker 3: maybe it's not like a stats game for them, but

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Speaker 3: maybe they can get well against the Houston Texans based

476
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Speaker 3: on what the Colts just did. And the Jacks beat

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Speaker 3: the Colts, right, we have transitive properties going on right here.

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Speaker 1: But the Jacks can't beat the Texans at home. The

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Speaker 1: Jack the Jacks can only beat the Colts consistently.

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Speaker 3: Right, And the Jags are coming off that loss to

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs, and the Chiefs were held to seventeen points.

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Speaker 3: That's the amazing they think about that game to me,

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Speaker 3: not necessarily that Jags were held to nine, but you

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Speaker 3: held the Chiefs to seventeen. If you tell Doug Peterson

485
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Speaker 3: going in, hey, I'm gonna give you let's play, let's

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Speaker 3: make a deal, I'll give you seventeen points allowed this afternoon,

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Speaker 3: or what's behind door number two? You are picking the

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Speaker 3: seventeen points every single time. You figure you can score

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Speaker 3: eighteen plus at home against anybody, especially with those weapons.

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Speaker 3: But they couldn't do it. They couldn't get one touchdown

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Speaker 3: on the board and the Chiefs that is the second

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Speaker 3: lowest point total in the Mahomes era. That's how well

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Speaker 3: they played defense. Ouch, get ready, buckle up. Texans got

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Speaker 3: to find a way to move the ball through the

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Speaker 3: air and hopefully they can get stroud enough time, enough

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Speaker 3: play action opportunities to score.

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Speaker 4: I'm still not sold on the chief Excuse me, I'm

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Speaker 4: still not sold on the Jags. They might, yeah, they

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Speaker 4: might be a lot better than the Texans on Sunday,

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Speaker 4: but I'll believe it when I actually see it. They

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Speaker 4: came in here and they thumped the Texans An Energy

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Speaker 4: Stadium last year. But I'm just not I think this

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Speaker 4: is a win game for the Texans. It's gonna be tough,

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Speaker 4: it's gonna be tough for Houston to win, but it's

505
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Speaker 4: always a winnable game when you're playing these guys.

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Speaker 5: I just I'm not sold on them. I'm not sold on.

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Speaker 3: Just divisional game. Divisional game. And you said it, dB.

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Speaker 3: You know, the Colts come in here, and the Colts

509
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Speaker 3: obviously have had the Texans number historically. This is a

510
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Speaker 3: very different Colts team, but they have a lot of

511
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Speaker 3: the same guys that have given you trouble over recent years.

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Speaker 3: When I was prepping for this game, I'm looking at

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Speaker 3: the Colts sol lot. I'm thinking, all right, Quenton Nelson's there,

514
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Speaker 3: Ryan Kelly's there, Brayden Smith is there?

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Speaker 2: What's the problem? Guys?

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Speaker 3: Why were you so horrible last year? And then I'm

517
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Speaker 3: looking at the d line. Are you at Grover Stewart,

518
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Speaker 3: the Forrest Buckner got it?

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Speaker 2: Quitty Pay? Oh my goshwo kom?

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Speaker 3: I mean, these guys are good players, so what's the problem. Well,

521
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Speaker 3: in the trenches we saw they didn't have much of

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Speaker 3: a problem. They were playing really well, and I think

523
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Speaker 3: they played well at times against the Jaguars. But it

524
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Speaker 3: was the first star for Richardson. The Forest Buckner actually

525
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Speaker 3: scored a touchdown in the game. And look the Colts.

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Speaker 3: If we were Colts right now, Colts Radio, they're freaking

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Speaker 3: out about the Richardson health situation, right as they should.

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Speaker 1: That's scary.

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Speaker 3: But Minshew was with that. He was with Shane Steiken

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Speaker 3: in Philly. So this is a different Minshew than we

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Speaker 3: saw when he was a Jacksonville Texans went three and

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Speaker 3: zero against him. Now Minshew is with this coach, in

533
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Speaker 3: this system, and he was thousand paper cuts to death

534
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Speaker 3: of the Houston Texans. Just short passes all the way through,

535
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Speaker 3: couldn't get to him, didn't hold the ball, just got

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Speaker 3: rid of it quick to the open man, matriculated the

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Speaker 3: ball down the field and it was.

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Speaker 2: Tough to stop. Mark.

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Speaker 1: You bring up a good point because I was on

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Speaker 1: the group chat with my brother and sister during the

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Speaker 1: Colts game and they were freaking out about Richardson. Actually,

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Speaker 1: my sister, who really only watches football very casually, was

543
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Speaker 1: even like, come on, Richardson, like you're gonna get yourself hurt,

544
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Speaker 1: Like why are you not? And then of course he

545
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Speaker 1: ended up getting himself hurt. So they even in a

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Speaker 1: game where they were leading, it seemed like they were

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Speaker 1: really really concerned the long term. It's the long term,

548
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Speaker 1: Like that's just not sustainable the way he's paying.

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Speaker 4: See, they should be that was that's he has an

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Speaker 4: injury history at Florida. Yeah, Clida, Well how about this

551
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Speaker 4: one absolutely should be.

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Speaker 3: How about this one for Richardson, He's played two games.

553
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Speaker 3: He had to leave both of them because he had

554
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Speaker 3: to leave that opening day game. Late in the game,

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Speaker 3: Minsho came in through a couple of passes and then

556
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Speaker 3: he leaves this one early and Minshew comes in and

557
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Speaker 3: throws a lot more passes and they're one and one

558
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Speaker 3: and they take it from there, and we'll see them

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Speaker 3: a lot later on. It's going to be the closing

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Speaker 3: game of the season, so it'll be interesting to see

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Speaker 3: what each team team, yeah, looks like at that point.

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Speaker 1: The Colts will be different, the Jags are going to

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Speaker 1: be different on Sunday. But you know, we got to

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Speaker 1: see a lot of teams that are going to face

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Speaker 1: later on in the season last night on Monday Night Football.

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Speaker 1: Going to get your guys' thoughts on Monday Night Football,

567
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Speaker 1: trying to watch all those games and all those teams

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Speaker 1: at the same time, your thoughts about that. And then

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Speaker 1: we'll go around the NFL. It's not coming up on

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Speaker 1: Texans All Access. We're back with more Texans All Axes.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about teams that the Texans will be facing

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three. And last night was a bonanza.

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Speaker 1: It was a quacopeia. It was it was almost too

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Speaker 1: much football for me to enjoy simultaneously because the games

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Speaker 1: were overlapping and it wasn't like it was a Sunday

576
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Speaker 1: YouTube TV Direct TV sort of a situation. So my

577
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Speaker 1: middle son, we have TVs and opposing rooms where if

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Speaker 1: you sit in just the right seat, you could watch both.

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Speaker 1: So we had like one TV on one game and

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Speaker 1: one TV on another game. And I must have walked

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Speaker 1: by and seen him doing that and yelled at him

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Speaker 1: like four times, like your homework. We don't know if

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Speaker 1: you're doing this, but those were some good games, and

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Speaker 1: they're all teams that you're going to face later on

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Speaker 1: the season. We're talking to JG about it, like what

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Speaker 1: it's like for them, because there, he said, he was

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Speaker 1: basically watching the old line in all those games. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you guys are watching more than a line. Your

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Speaker 1: thoughts on Monday night doubleheaders? What you guys thing? Do

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Speaker 1: you like them?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: What are we thinking about them?

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Speaker 5: I like them? But I like them staggered?

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 5: That's so, that's that's the way to do it.

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Speaker 4: I love the way that we did it back in

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Speaker 4: twenty thirteen when we were the West Coast game. That's

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Speaker 4: what I want that's the perfect setup.

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Speaker 1: So wait, you want to be the nine to thirty

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Speaker 1: local start.

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Speaker 5: I don't want the Texans to be. I just not

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Speaker 5: too late.

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Speaker 2: It's too late.

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Speaker 3: Even the game that started at seven. The Pittsburgh Cleveland

606
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Speaker 3: game started at seven to fifteenth Central. Look, it's way

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Speaker 3: past my bedtime. That game was heavily delayed because of

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Speaker 3: the Chubb situation, and it just felt like a dragged

609
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Speaker 3: on but it was really compelling. I couldn't go to sleep.

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Speaker 3: It was so compelling. I'm on the edge of my

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Speaker 3: seat watching that thing. And I abandoned the Saints Carolina game.

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Speaker 3: I said, I'll catch the highlights. I gotta be fully

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Speaker 3: invested in this Pittsburgh Cleveland thing.

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Speaker 2: It's funny.

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Speaker 3: The Texans played all four of those teams that played

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Speaker 3: last night, so it's cool. But I was far more

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Speaker 3: interested in what was going on in Steel City with

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Speaker 3: Watson playing and the Texans having the Browns pick, and

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Speaker 3: I'm wanting Cleveland to lose every single game by as

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Speaker 3: much as possible, and I'm looking at Pittsburgh and I'm thinking, oh,

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Speaker 3: they're going to be here next week. Next week is

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Speaker 3: what week? And the Steelers come calling and I'm looking

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Speaker 3: at that D line and I'm thinking, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 3: because I think the Texans could have success against the

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00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:12,719
Speaker 3: Steelers offense. But the Steelers defense bring the blocking because TJ.

626
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Speaker 3: Watts come and so is high Smith. All those dudes

627
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Speaker 3: when they took a rest after they scored the touchdown,

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Speaker 3: the reserves were.

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Speaker 2: In there giving Cleveland problems.

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Speaker 3: They are deep on the d line up front, They're

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Speaker 3: really tough to deal with.

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Speaker 1: I think when the game starts off on a pick six,

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Speaker 1: I mean, granted it was not a perfect interception, but

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Speaker 1: just the playmaking ability of that Steelers defense, Watson throws

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Speaker 1: a pick six on the first play. I mean, I

636
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Speaker 1: was just I was astounded by his performance. And I

637
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 1: think he like his comments in the media, you know

638
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: that he is very very unhappy. He seems so frustrated

639
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 1: in the game too. He was as he you know,

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Speaker 1: and I think that these last few years, you know,

641
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Speaker 1: he's obviously trying to prove that he's worth all two

642
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty million of those dollars. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of pressure on him, and in that situation in Cleveland,

644
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: but four turnovers, three of them were basically his fault.

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Speaker 1: A couple of face mask penalties. I felt like every

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Speaker 1: time I looked at that game, it was being delayed

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Speaker 1: for one reason or another. There was a flag. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it was just an ugly, ugly game they were they

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00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: were into till the end. Yeah, they weren't into it.

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Speaker 1: If Kenny Pigott could have just put together like a

651
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Speaker 1: nice drive at the end, the Steelers could have run

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Speaker 1: away with it. But it just felt like the Browns

653
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Speaker 1: were losing the whole the.

654
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 2: Whole game, even when they were leading.

655
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 1: There were even when.

656
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 4: They weren't watching Watson. He you know, he's clearly does

657
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 4: not look like the Watson we saw when he was here.

658
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 4: And it's it's weird. My sons play Madden and you

659
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,719
Speaker 4: can add different players. So one of my sons has

660
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 4: a team. It's the Texans, and Mahomes is the quarterback,

661
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 4: and he's got Stefan Diggs playing wide receiver. But he

662
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 4: made Steffan Diggs four hundred pounds. Oh okay, He said, Daddy,

663
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 4: come look at Stefan Diggs. And I came in and

664
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 4: I'm like, hey, how come Stefan Diggs looks so portly?

665
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 4: And he said, I made aim four hundred pounds. He's

666
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 4: so much harder to tackle and he was still effective

667
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 4: and he was still also with Michael Parsons too. Looking

668
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 4: at him, it's like, well, that's supposedly Stefan Diggs, but

669
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 4: he's bigger, but he's different. It's kind of like the

670
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 4: same thing, Like that's Watson, but that's not the Watson

671
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 4: we were accustomed to seeing.

672
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 2: I was wondering where you were going with this.

673
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just a different to being the same guy.

674
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 4: But it's different, and it's it's almost like Stefan Diggs

675
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 4: being four hundred pounds on my son's Madden game.

676
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 5: So there, he's my connection.

677
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 3: He's not the same I look, this is my theory.

678
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 3: This is my personal theory. Everybody wants to be appreciated

679
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 3: and loved right for what they do, and I think

680
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 3: right now he's not getting much of that, even in

681
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 3: his own market, Cleveland, right So I think it's difficult

682
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 3: for anybody. And I'm not sympathizing here. I'm just reading

683
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 3: the situation. You know, he's used to a certain kind

684
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 3: of treatment from the fans when he was here and there.

685
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 3: It's gotta be a lot different. I know the Browns

686
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 3: fans want him to succeed because they want the team

687
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 3: to win. But you go to those AFC North cities,

688
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 3: that's not like going to Nashville or Jacksonville. This is

689
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 3: the football's tough here. The football's tough for the AFC South,

690
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 3: But the fans are a different variety when you go

691
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 3: to Pittsburgh, when you go to Cincinnati. Remember Sam Weish

692
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 3: getting on the microphone in Cincinnati when he was head

693
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 3: coach and he said, it's.

694
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 2: Not like it from Cleveland. Stop throwing stuff.

695
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 3: Stuff happens in those cities and Baltimore. My gosh, these

696
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 3: are really tough places to play. And we're not even

697
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 3: the bad weather time yet. Plus the Steelers, can you

698
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 3: imagine the stuff they say to him across the line

699
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 3: of scrimmage.

700
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 2: He was getting super frustrated.

701
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 3: When was the last time you see a quarterback get

702
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 3: two faith mask penalties on him?

703
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 2: On him he committed them.

704
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: And what about the near ejection.

705
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 3: You were just talking about this before this official, right

706
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 3: did not get ejected And they're saying, Wow.

707
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 4: Lucky, he's not gonna get he's not gonna get fined

708
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 4: or suspended.

709
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: He's crazy that he doesn't get fined.

710
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 3: It's it's crazy because if they find him, I guess

711
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 3: that that's an admission that they were wrong.

712
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 2: But that happens all the time.

713
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 3: They miss hits, they miss illegal stuff, helmet to helmet

714
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 3: in the course of battle on the fields, they miss

715
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 3: it in the heat of the game, and then later

716
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 3: on well when they slowed things down they can see it.

717
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 2: They find guys all the time. So I guess he's

718
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 2: not getting fined. I don't know.

719
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 3: But the point is this, he is not himself, and

720
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 3: once Chubb goes out, Chubb is the focal point of

721
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 3: that offense. It's not him, it's Chubb, and Chubb was

722
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 3: running well early and then he goes out with the

723
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 3: catastrophic injury, and Chubb is like Derek Henry to them.

724
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 3: He might not be Derek Henry, but he's Derek Henry

725
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 3: to them, and without him, they're not the same. I

726
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 3: know Ford had a really good game and that huge

727
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 3: run and everything. He did some things, but you can't

728
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 3: build around him, in my opinion. So they were caught

729
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 3: in a tough spot. The Steelers took advantage, but the

730
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 3: Steelers don't move the ball either. Kenny Pickett's having a

731
00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 3: tough time Najee Harris just doesn't look like Alabama backs

732
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 3: should look. You know, he's more Trent Richardson than Derrick Henry,

733
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 3: if you will. I'm not putting that on him. I

734
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 3: think he's a pretty good back, but they're just not

735
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 3: moving the ball. Everybody's keying on Najie Harris. And then

736
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 3: make PICKT beat you. He had some good throws last night,

737
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 3: but not enough, and the defense scoring two touchdowns. Like

738
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 3: you said, DP, that last strip by high Smith and

739
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 3: the touchdown by TJ.

740
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 2: Watt was electric stuff.

741
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 3: And I'm not a Steelers fan at all, but I

742
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 3: was rooting for them last night. Now next week they

743
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 3: better lose badly.

744
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 2: Now.

745
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: You don't want TJ. Watt getting any fumble six pick

746
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: six is with his brother being inducted on the Sorry

747
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: brother doesn't want to see it either. We don't want

748
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:38,959
Speaker 1: to see anything. Get that all out of your system.

749
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 2: I don't know how's you gonna feel about it.

750
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: Get it out this week, get it out last week,

751
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: but don't be doing that here. Yeah, not the Ring

752
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: of Honor. What Day.

753
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 3: It's weird because it'll be what Day And we'll talk

754
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 3: about this next week.

755
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 2: And TJ is gonna be here.

756
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 3: You don't want what making a big play on what

757
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 3: day against the watch.

758
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 2: You know, it's just weird. So let's see how it goes.

759
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: It's funny because Indy. Indy walked in here before Texans

760
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: tuddle and he said, I didn't see the whole game,

761
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: but as what or where was Watson as bad as

762
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: his numbers?

763
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 2: Yeah?

764
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: It was, Uh you look at it, he's like forty

765
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: pass attempts. I mean, yeah, he's uh, he's definitely.

766
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 5: Would you say he looked like a four hundred pound

767
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 5: stuff on digs?

768
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 4: Yah?

769
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: I mean you maybe that's something that you know your

770
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: your kids should try next. Make make Deshaun Watson for

771
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: maybe his accuracy. I don't know how that would affect it.

772
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 3: What about the other game with Carolina and the Saints?

773
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 3: Because Bryce Young getting along a long look last night

774
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 3: from the fans around the nation. I love how everyone

775
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 3: draws conclusions about these rookie quarterbacks after a couple of games. Uh,

776
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 3: Young did not look that good. Let's be honest. The

777
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 3: yards per attempt are extremely low. It's not productive for

778
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 3: him right now. The rookie quarterbacks who drafted high tend

779
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 3: to go to teams that don't have everything they need

780
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 3: to make them successful yet, so we'll see how it goes.

781
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 3: I'm not going to label him anything just yet, and

782
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 3: just like I'm not going to get two over the top,

783
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 3: although it's hard not to about CJ's performance. I just

784
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 3: want to see more and more of it because I

785
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 3: was so encouraged by what I saw. But so far,

786
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,959
Speaker 3: CJ looks like the guy now. Anthony Richardson looks pretty

787
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 3: good too. He was playing pretty well in that game

788
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 3: before he went out. He had those runs. Those look

789
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 3: pretty good as well. But can he hold up with

790
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 3: the injury history and the hits he's taking so far?

791
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Derek Carr, I mean with the Saints. See did

792
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 1: you see much of that game with him and how

793
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: he's been playing with the Saints, Because I was watching

794
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: the beginning of it.

795
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 2: It was not that good.

796
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: It wasn't that good. I pulled out a win somehow.

797
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 3: I saw a couple of dropbacks where he had all

798
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 3: day and still couldn't find somebody. And I don't know

799
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 3: who to quote blame that on, but it's early. And

800
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 3: I saw his post game a little bit of it,

801
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 3: and he said, look, we have to correct a lot

802
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 3: of things.

803
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 2: But it's easier to do that when you're winning than

804
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 2: when you're losing.

805
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 3: And he says a big reason why he picked the

806
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 3: Saints is their defense, and they kept them in the

807
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 3: first game and last night obviously. So hey, two and

808
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 3: oh two is two and oh I'd love to be

809
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 3: two and.

810
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 2: Oh right now.

811
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at this division you've got. I mean,

812
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: everybody's one and one. I mean Jacksonville, who I remember

813
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: what we were talking in the offseason. People were just

814
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: saying that they're going to run away with this division.

815
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: I mean, they're not really dominating. I know it's only

816
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: two weeks, but one and one in the Texans are

817
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: own too. If the Texans can get a win here

818
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: against jackson the world totally changes the world. And you think, oh,

819
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 1: and that there was a stat We get these emails

820
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,280
Speaker 1: every single week from the league about win to not panic,

821
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,479
Speaker 1: and they were just talking about the teams that start

822
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: oh and two and can still make it to the playoffs.

823
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: And it just makes me remember several years back when

824
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: the Texans started oh to three, yeah and then one

825
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: nine time.

826
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that.

827
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 4: Twenty eighteen season remains one year well of the most

828
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 4: fun year.

829
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 5: I mean it did.

830
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 4: It ended horribly in the playoffs, but that season was awesome.

831
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 2: I mean it was fun.

832
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 4: You start out on three and then you just start

833
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 4: peeling off overtime victories in a row, and then you

834
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 4: go to Denver the week you acquired Damarius Thomas and

835
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 4: you win there. That was just an awesome, awesome season.

836
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 4: The losses were close late as well at Philly. I

837
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 4: mean you leave the lead the field on offense with

838
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 4: the lead, yeah, and then you give it back away.

839
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 4: But that season was a hell of a good time.

840
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 4: Nine in a row. Think about that span, I mean

841
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 4: basically all of October, November into December.

842
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 5: That's a lot of winning.

843
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 4: That's a lot of weeks where you're happy and you

844
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 4: wake up on Monday morning feeling good and the week

845
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 4: just like cruises along a lot better than it would.

846
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 5: Have if you wake up like you did this week.

847
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: That was I think that the Cowboy like this week

848
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: the Cowboys game on Sunday Night Football. That win and

849
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 1: over that might be one of my all time favorite

850
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: regular season wins. And then you know that you're right.

851
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: I think that was the year that the players started

852
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: doing the group photos after celebrations. That was the first year,

853
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 1: and we have so many of those. In fact, I

854
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: think when I was here, that was right after I'd

855
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: been here for five years. We got to pick one

856
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 1: picture to sort of encapsulate our five years, and I

857
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: picked one from the Denver game with like nobody's remaining

858
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: from that squad anymore, they're all posing the end zone

859
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 1: after a touchdown.

860
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 4: But that was I agree, pick six at the end

861
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 4: of the Bills game to kind of win that one,

862
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 4: like you're going to overtime for the third week in

863
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 4: a row.

864
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 5: There. Yeah, there are moments in that.

865
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, there were a lot of moments.

866
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 3: Washington, the Alex Smith horrendous injury, the picks six against Washington,

867
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 3: and a lot of different things. But the Colts, the

868
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 3: Colts ended that season yuck. But it was fun to

869
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 3: win nine in a row. That's a franchise record, of course,

870
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:40,919
Speaker 3: and I'd love to do it this year. Let's start

871
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 3: it next week, shall we?

872
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: Let's start it next next next week, Let's start it

873
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: this week? All right, We're gonna do one more segment.

874
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: What should the Cleveland Browns do about this Nick Chubb injury?

875
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: Someone has a suggestion and it's gonna make Mark Vanemeer's

876
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: stomach turn. We're gonna get into that and go round

877
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: the NFL, and we come back with one final segment

878
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: of Texans All Access. We're back with one final segment

879
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: of Texans All Access. We've been talking about all the

880
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: Monday night games, predominantly the Browns and the Steelers, and

881
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: we saw Nick Chubb get carted off the field with

882
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,439
Speaker 1: a knee injury. And this morning, of course, everyone's got

883
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,720
Speaker 1: solutions to the Browns problems. The Texans of the last're

884
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: gonna be facing the Browns later on in this season.

885
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,439
Speaker 1: Christmas Eve, Yes, that's right, Christmas Eve game. And this

886
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: is not going to make for a very merry Christmas

887
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: for one Mark Vandermer. What the proposals floating around? How

888
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: about if the Colts tray Jonathan Taylor before the trade

889
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,959
Speaker 1: deadline to Nick for Nick Chubb to the Browns wait,

890
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: wait for Nick Chubb for Niche in lieu of the

891
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: injured Nick Chub. I'm looking at everybody was suggesting it,

892
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: so I can't figure out who to give credit.

893
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 2: They will have no picks left for anything. Here's the thing.

894
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 3: If I'm Cleveland, I'm thinking I'm looking at my team,

895
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 3: and I'm thinking, am I Jonathan Taylor away from being

896
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 3: really successful?

897
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 2: I don't know about that. Sure, they'll run the.

898
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 3: Ball better with Tailor as opposed to Ford and whatever

899
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 3: else they do. A lot of people are saying, pick

900
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 3: up Kareem Hunt, But I don't like that at all

901
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 3: for them. If i'm them, because I got to give

902
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 3: up something, I still got to pay him. I'm paying

903
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 3: Hubbs something already. The injuries to running backs in this

904
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 3: league are unfathomable. It's crazy how many running backs are

905
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 3: hurt right now. So I don't see that happening, but

906
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 3: you never know.

907
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: Well, the Colts also want a first round draft pick,

908
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 1: so you'd have to give up that's not happening a

909
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: first round draft pick on top of everything else you

910
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: bring up, have a first round draft picks.

911
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 2: We're getting a twenty twenty.

912
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: Seven a first round draft pick.

913
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 4: Ed.

914
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: Is that going to fix all your other problems? Because

915
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: you're right, Jonathan Taylor also injury history because he started

916
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: off the season on pup.

917
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 2: What did they really think of their quarterback situation? I mean,

918
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 2: we can talk about this for days. What do they

919
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 2: really think behind closed doors? Well?

920
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 3: Is it going to happen. Are we going to see

921
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 3: it or not? Are we ever going to see it?

922
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 3: Or is this what we're going to get till the

923
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 3: end of time. I don't know what they think, and

924
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,240
Speaker 3: I don't know what's gonna happened, but we're all watching.

925
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 3: It's the greatest reality show. That's why we were watching

926
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 3: last night. And by the way, you mentioned Monday night

927
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 3: football double header last night. You get another one next Monday,

928
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 3: another staggered double header, six fifteen start times, So buckle up,

929
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 3: lots of football viewing.

930
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 1: I want to see the Manning brothers and the Maning

931
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: Cast try to watch these games, especially when they start lapping.

932
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: I want to see them try to comment on the games,

933
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: but like they've got four screens. I want to see

934
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: like a Peyton box, an Eli box, and then the

935
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: two games and then both of them try to comment

936
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: because I don't even know if they could put an

937
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 1: interview in there. But I was kind of missing the

938
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: Maning Cast last night because there was just so much

939
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 1: happening at the same time, and I feel like their

940
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: reactions to stuff are basically like our reactions.

941
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 4: Do you want my unsolicited to say, step I still

942
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 4: say separate don't stagger.

943
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 5: Let's have it like so ye have one end stand alone.

944
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 2: Not stay it up till midnight.

945
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 5: Drink.

946
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: Some car started at five, started out four?

947
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 2: When did that charge?

948
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: Your starting while I'm at work, I don't care.

949
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 3: Twenty thirteen. I think we kicked off at nine to

950
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 3: twenty centuries?

951
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 2: Did fine? I think it was.

952
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,479
Speaker 5: It's ridiculous.

953
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't want to I don't want to be

954
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: in the second of the doubleheader. And that was fine

955
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: for the Chargers because they were West Coast. I just

956
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: remember that was my first regular season game ever, and

957
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 1: I walked in the door at six thirty in the morning,

958
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: and I thought, have I made a horrible mistake because

959
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: I had to get my kids ready for school?

960
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:26,919
Speaker 5: And then it was sure it was six thirty.

961
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 4: I went like seven thirty because I kind of feel

962
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 4: like we came home against traffic.

963
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 2: We I lived my rush hour.

964
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: I lived much closer, so I know I was getting

965
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: my kids ready because I was half asleep getting them

966
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: ready for school. And then we it was just then

967
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: it was Tuesday. Then it was Tuesday. Then we had

968
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: like all of our shows with everything that was rough speaking. Okay,

969
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: so let's go down a memory, La and favorite Monday

970
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 1: Night memory that the Texans have ever played in. You

971
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: have a favorite money Monday Night Texans game? That was

972
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: a great because Cushing had the pick six. As much

973
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: as I complained about how late it was, that was

974
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: a really fun game.

975
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 3: I like the Jets in twelve. That was a good

976
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 3: except for Cushion getting hurt. That sucked, But the Jets

977
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 3: and twelve was good. We've had some losses on Monday Night.

978
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 3: Those are those are automatically flowing into my brain right now.

979
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: The best loss, if you want to go there, it

980
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: has to be the Saints game that was Monday Night

981
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: as well, right, Yeah, that was when we traded for

982
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: Laramie Tunsel and Kenny Still.

983
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 2: Best loss is hard to run.

984
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: That was the best. That was felt like a It

985
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: felt like a win just because it was such an

986
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:24,720
Speaker 1: exciting game.

987
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 3: Best win is the Bengals in twenty fifteen, going there

988
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 3: and they're undefeated and beating.

989
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 2: Them ten to six, ten to six.

990
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: That was awesome forj What about the Titans game beating

991
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: Tennessee thirty four to seventeen, Wait, eighteen.

992
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 2: Thirty four to seventeen and eighteen, Yeah, that.

993
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 1: Was Lamar Miller. That was Lamar Miller long ninety eight

994
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: yard touchhown.

995
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,399
Speaker 3: I'll give that one the best home Monday night, get

996
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 3: that game to me category. It's such an emotional memory

997
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 3: because of mister McNair and all it meant and the

998
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 3: Lamar Miller run and.

999
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that was so good.

1000
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 3: That it is such a different context from what happened

1001
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 3: in twenty fifteen. It's fun to reminisce, reminisce about wins.

1002
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 3: I want some wins this year. To reminisce about more

1003
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 3: is like, how about this Sunday. I want to be

1004
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 3: reminiscing about a win at Jacksonville next week. I'm gonna

1005
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 3: reminisce about what's happening this coming Sunday.

1006
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's funny that you mentioned the Lamar

1007
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: Miller run because in our offices, we've got these just

1008
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 1: glass offices. Mark's and basically a glass.

1009
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 2: Office, glass case of emotion.

1010
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: He's in a glasshouse, so he shall not cast stones.

1011
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: But at one point there was talk of fogging up

1012
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,919
Speaker 1: the glass and putting you know famous Texans plays, Oh yeah,

1013
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: on the glass and nx'es and o's and so Sneil,

1014
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: who's you know, Ilegal had some plays that he drew

1015
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: up that he were his favorite, and I knew which

1016
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,399
Speaker 1: one Mark was going to pick. You picked the Lamar

1017
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: Miller one, although it's not as fun to look at

1018
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: going all the way.

1019
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 3: Just a bunch of people, the bunch of x'es and

1020
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 3: o's and one guy just taken off bye bye.

1021
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 5: Would you choose DP?

1022
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 4: I would choose the Cecil Shorts touchdown pass against the Jets,

1023
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 4: just because it looks so bunkers x's and o's wise,

1024
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 4: not necessarily my favorite play ever, but just like, yeah.

1025
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to take that into consideration that the

1026
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: esthetics of the x's and.

1027
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 1: O's, Yeah, well I would. I would pick the DeAndre

1028
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: Hopkins and the Cowboys hopspins because that would be a

1029
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: fun little squiggly line to draw.

1030
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't draw it up that way.

1031
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 3: That plays designed to get twenty and he took it

1032
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 3: into the field goal range?

1033
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: Was that? I hope this this year with CJ, I

1034
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: hope that we have a play like that because some

1035
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: of those Nico Collins passes, I mean, you know as

1036
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: well the touchdown when the tank Tel touchdown.

1037
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 3: What a great story he is. I know, we talked

1038
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 3: about him earlier. But year three, he's putting this together.

1039
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 3: And I think during training camp there was a lot

1040
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 3: of talk who's the number one guy, who's the number

1041
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 3: one receiver? And there was a lot of talk about

1042
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 3: the receiving group. Are they good enough right now? It

1043
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 3: looks like one of the strengths of the team. That's

1044
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 3: the least you're worried about right now. You're looking at

1045
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 3: some other areas where you thought they might be okay.

1046
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 3: But a lot of injuries have factored into changing the

1047
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 3: immediate opinion about some of those position groups, and you

1048
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 3: need guys back. But I love what I'm seeing out

1049
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 3: of Nico. And I've always said this, if he's healthy,

1050
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,760
Speaker 3: he's making plays. He's one of those guys. He's healthy,

1051
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 3: he's making plays.

1052
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that, you know, just seeing some

1053
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: of the guys on offense. Really, I've seen Brevin Jordan

1054
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: make a catch late in the game. I mean, I

1055
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: remember thinking in training camp, we just thought he hadn't

1056
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: played all through training camp, and to see him get

1057
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 1: in the mix again, that was, you know. I like Brevin.

1058
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: We've seen him as a rookie. It's I think these

1059
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 1: guys that are like in their third fourth year. It's

1060
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: really hard for them because there's been so much inconsistency

1061
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: for them, like systems have changed, coaches have changed, personnel has.

1062
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 3: Charged, third offensive coordinator if you were drafted in twenty twenty.

1063
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: One, and more on Jonathan Garnard like he came here

1064
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. First of all, that was already rough

1065
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: because it was a COVID year, so they couldn't even

1066
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: do OTA's.

1067
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 2: And head coaches in four years.

1068
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:59,760
Speaker 1: And the defensive coordinators. He also changed positions too. Remember

1069
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: he was outside linebacker we were like a three four

1070
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 1: and then yeah, he was here when we were still

1071
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 1: a three to four.

1072
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 2: I was built for this though he's built to be

1073
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,760
Speaker 2: a d N. He could do it.

1074
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: It's still a lot of change. He was telling us

1075
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: actually in the break that Sheldon rankins that he was

1076
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: there at Louisville. Sheldon was a senior when JG was

1077
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 1: a freshman.

1078
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 2: Oh, before he went to Florida.

1079
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: Before he went to Florida, well it was it was

1080
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: Sheldon's last year there. So it's how crazy that the

1081
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,720
Speaker 1: two of them are here now with the Texans crazy

1082
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: and now a whole new D line group. So anyway,

1083
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: we're moving on to Jacksonville on Sunday. Another Fox game weird,

1084
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: which I always find weird when it's a Fox.

1085
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 5: Same cruise calling it Chris Meyers, Robert Smith.

1086
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 1: Same cruise, same everything, Sunday. And then John Harris. I'm

1087
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,720
Speaker 1: sure he had a blast with this Texans matchup because

1088
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: there was finally some really fun plays.

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Speaker 2: And a lot of Jacksonville memories as well.

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Speaker 1: Oh some good jackson memories? Are they John's personal Jacksonville memory?

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe he's to coach the taking a photo of

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Speaker 3: him while Andre Hall's running for a touchdown?

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Speaker 1: Could I remember that? All right? That's gonna do it

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Speaker 1: for Texans All Access. Stay tuned for Texans Matchup up next,

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Speaker 1: to check out Houston Texans dot com go to the

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Speaker 1: your favorite shows. That's going to do it for Texans

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Speaker 1: All Access. Thanks so much for listening. Texans Matchup is

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