1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast. That's a great point, Mark Surprice. 2 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Around the NFL Podcast. I'm Greg Rosenthal 3 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 1: alongside QB Index guru Mark Sessler, and yeah, this is 4 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: a surprise drop. This is your favorite, uh musical artist 5 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: just releasing an album like a mix tape on a Friday, 6 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: and you're just happy to get the extra content. Hopefully. Mark, 7 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: we hinted at it on our Tuesday show and now 8 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: we are doing more than hinting at it, and we 9 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: thought that we would just take a breeze through a 10 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: trip through the QB Index where we stand. Of course, 11 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: I'm uh doing this with the creator of the QB Index, 12 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: so it's sort of like there's an interesting dynamic at there. Well, 13 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: I do miss it. I have to admit I do 14 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: miss watching the quarterbacks extra close and then ranking them. 15 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: And that's why this week we thought it would be 16 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: fun just get give a little extra episode would try 17 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: something different, largely because Mark's concept for this week's article, 18 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: which I implore everyone to check out at NFL dot 19 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: com slash QB Index is amazing. You wrote high coups 20 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: for all thirty two players. So we're gonna go through 21 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: a good junk of them. We're gonna hear your high 22 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: coups and um, and I'm also gonna maybe push around 23 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: about these rankings and see see what I would expect 24 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: you to. How how have you enjoyed it? We you're 25 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: now six seven weeks in. It's a lot of work. 26 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: The thing I love about it is we are already 27 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: taking game notes and what, trying to watch everything for 28 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: our Thursday preview show and just overall gaining ideas of 29 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: who these teams are. And it marries right away on 30 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: Monday writing it um with the project that's due essentially 31 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: to say that's fair. Now hands this is looking for us. 32 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: He was like Mark, Mark and Greg show that could 33 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: be spicy. He wants us to have a confrontation. I 34 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: think that Dan often um uh silently, not even maybe 35 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: intentionally creates um the environment where you and I get 36 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: into the conflict. I feel like we're pretty polite with 37 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: each other, but we'll try to we'll try to. Yeah, 38 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: we're pretty into it in this in format. I think 39 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: you're ranking of two A Togo volo is terrible. Mark. 40 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: Now uh, let's start near someone near the top. Um, 41 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: Let's start with Justin Herbert I don't know why, just 42 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: because I find him interesting. Right now you have him 43 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: number five the top five right now, Josh Allen moved 44 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: up to one. Patrick Mahomes is at too. I feel 45 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: like those have to be the top two in some order. 46 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: You could argue either way. You got Hurts in Lamar 47 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: three and four. I don't have any argument there, although 48 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: it's interesting that Lamar struggled the last few weeks and 49 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: yet there's not anyone logical to pass them. And then 50 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: Herbert here at five. Go for your high coup, my 51 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: high coup for justin Herbert human tornado trapped inside hyper 52 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: Milk Toast Bolts offensive scheme sit. I would point to 53 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: Monday Night Football as a kind of case in point I, 54 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: just because I so Herbert is I want to sit 55 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: with that haiku a little more. There's a certain amount 56 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: of syllables each time. Yes, it's gotta be um five 57 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: seven five, And I would say, like the reading of 58 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 1: the hikup is important too, so don't don't rush through it. Okay, 59 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying, because that was great. Trapped inside 60 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: hyper Milk Toast Bolts. I mean I was in the newsroom, 61 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: like counting on my fingers one through five and then 62 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: one through five and seven, and there are various like 63 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: television executives looking at me like I would just done 64 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: a bag of cocaine, so you know, after the pilocybin. 65 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: It feels like, yeah, Joe Lombardi could use some psilocybin 66 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: maybe to live in up this uh mind going yes, 67 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: it's story, Vanilla, It's it's weird. It's almost like they've 68 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,839 Speaker 1: got this the stallion of a of a horse here, 69 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: but they're just they're they're just uh, you know, letting 70 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: kids ride them for birthday parties instead of taking them 71 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 1: out into the field. I was trying to really know. 72 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: I love what you said though, you and Grave Digger 73 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: on the Monday Night recap that he's sort of a 74 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: deodorant for the rest of that operation on some level. 75 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: And it's like they're not using him even. I mean, 76 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: they already had unlocked him in years prior, and it's 77 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: like we're getting a lesser version of him now, a 78 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: safer version. The whole offense doesn't seem to be uh 79 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: equipped with any daring do I know, we hit Brady 80 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: hard on the Tuesday show so we can keep it quick, 81 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: But I just love the hiku so much that I 82 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: want you to go, well, this highko has been asked 83 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: to um this is a this is an Easter eggor 84 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: because this high coo will not be appearing in print, 85 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: but um it is two Seltzer's at the wedding of 86 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: Robert Kraft and people freaking out. I I love that 87 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: we're giving an exclusive hiku to our podcast listeners because 88 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: you guys deserve it. Like too hot for NFL, I 89 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: guess hot com. I hope that doesn't make you uncomfortable, 90 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: but yeah, I just I have a hard time feeling 91 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: that him him going out on and I had much 92 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: to do with. So I think that's why I pointed 93 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: to it, because it's I feel like everything around the 94 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: Tom Brady experienced this season, because we can tell he's 95 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,119 Speaker 1: a little unsettled emotionally. I mean, he was just going 96 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: off on his lineman in the Steeler's loss, and it's like, oh, 97 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: what can we blame it on his personal life? The 98 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: fact that he went to a wedding, which he's like, 99 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: these guys do all sorts of things all the time. 100 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I just didn't find that to be a 101 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: factor in his play. He's throwing the ball really well. 102 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: I think it's gotten underrated. He had three or four 103 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: great throws in that game. The problem is everything in between. Yeah, 104 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: he's had a few more misses, I would say than normal, 105 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: But I think it's more he's just getting rid of 106 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,559 Speaker 1: the ball quickly because he doesn't trust what's going to happen, 107 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: and it makes them a little boring to watch two. 108 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: But he's still got that arm. All of these KOs 109 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: are so good, Mark that I actually feel like we're 110 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: losing I'm losing something by not having all of them. 111 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: Like I didn't even want to discuss Jaylon Nerds, but 112 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: I just want you. I do want to hear that, 113 00:05:56,160 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 1: yeah is so good. They built a statue for owls 114 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: four months away from a jail in Carving. That would 115 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: be great, and it's Super Bowl they that is it 116 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: was your super Bowl runner up picks, so we could 117 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: both be feeling great during Super Bowl Week and then 118 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: you just root for the other team, and then you 119 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: would be right and root for the Eagles, and I 120 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: will be right. They've set a precedent here, like if 121 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: if they win the Super Bowl, Sirianni and Hurts have 122 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: to have one next year. They have to also run 123 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: a Philly special in that game if they get there. 124 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: He's very steady. He's not um, gonna kill you from 125 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: the pocket all the time. But I think his improvement 126 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: as a passer has been notable, Like he makes some 127 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: really nice throws where he buys time in the pocket 128 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: to throw instead of running. It's certainly not all R 129 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 1: P O stuff. And he's a good decision maker. Like 130 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: how many times does he have been like, oh, why 131 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: did you do that? Jail hurts? No? I mean it's 132 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: it's it's on a inn full like the bad thros 133 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: he's made too, And like I I I feel like 134 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: I can't find another quarterback on this list that made 135 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: a bigger leap from where we ended with him last 136 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: year and what that offense was to what it can 137 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: do now. And I mean he's at three, and I 138 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: guess in another season maybe he wouldn't be be at three. 139 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: But it's been a tough year to be like, oh, 140 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: this guy's coming from the wilderness and sweeping up the list. 141 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: There aren't a lot of guys doing that right now. 142 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: It's a great point, justin Graver, who's here with us, Hey, 143 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: just then, and how many times have we um that's 144 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: how you do. I thought I could get away with 145 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: it without Dan No. I mean I like this. I 146 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: like the whole bit, and you know, feel free to 147 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: do do drops in here all of your normal stuff. 148 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: You just looked like a man who had something to say. Well, 149 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: I was gonna bring it up, and Mark just mentioned it. 150 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: The leap that Jalen Hurts has made. I feel like 151 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: it's underrated and often not talked about. Like everyone talks 152 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: about Josh Allen being this guy who improved so much 153 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: and that it's so rare to see someone do that. 154 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: But Jalen Hurts, I mean his last year at Alabama 155 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: before he went to Oklahoma, he was a terrible passer 156 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: of the football and he's just improved so much. And 157 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: I think people kind of mocked Nick Sirianni for some 158 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: press conference things that he said when he first got hired, 159 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: but he deserves a lot of credit for under the 160 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: radar as a coach. I feel like there should be 161 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: more like Nick Sirianni think pieces out there. That's a 162 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: good point. I mean, the people have just sort of 163 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: accepted them as a superpower, awfully quick, and you're right, 164 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: like what I did you know, that's a badman own 165 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: back here. But I did a sandwich prop He's gonna 166 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: make the Pro Bowl team. Jalen Hurts as like the 167 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: first time in a in a pretty loaded NFC for 168 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 1: quarterbacks that he would be one of the top three, 169 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: And I and everyone at least took the sandwich on that. 170 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: It's it's been really impressive. I remember moved the sticks. 171 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: Our friend Daniel Jeremiah, who I'm excited to announce is 172 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 1: going to start a podcast. Daniel, Yeah, yeah, like talk 173 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: about the draft. Have read Bucky Brooks. I think it's 174 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: gonna be good. It's got a lot of knowledge. I 175 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: remember during the draft process him wrestling with Jalen Hurts 176 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: because he said he clearly isn't there as a passer. 177 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: But we're seeing these sort of athletes do well at quarterback. 178 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: And there's something that everyone who's ever met Jalen Hurts 179 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 1: says is so special about him that I just have 180 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: to put him in my top fifty, which was higher 181 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: than most people had him. I just have to put 182 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 1: him there just because even if it doesn't make sense, 183 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 1: he hasn't shown it on tape. He's just like such 184 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: an amazing individual. And wants it so bad that he 185 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: thinks like there's a good he could get there some day. 186 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: I mean there's there's locker room clips of him weekly 187 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: talking to the team. That's sort of been the unanimous thing. 188 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: You know, we're a year removed from It's like this 189 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,599 Speaker 1: whole thing Jalen Hurts is simply on a tryout to 190 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: see if the Eagles can't find something better. Now it's like, uh, 191 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: that tryout worked right, And also, can we hold off 192 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: on the like Jalen Hurts contract extension talk, Just let's 193 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: just enjoy the season. Just just let this season play 194 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 1: out and then we can get to that. The defect 195 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: ball is more interesting and the rest of this season 196 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: will greatly in form the contract, you know, So just 197 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: we don't need to talk about it now. It's just 198 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 1: it's just like, enjoy it. There you go, Sean Kelly, 199 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: I love it. He's in the back cheering our resident 200 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: Eagles fan. We've got so many Eagles fans everywhere, it's 201 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. The rest of the top ten Gino Smith, 202 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, Aaron Rodgers at nine and to a who Yeah, 203 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: it's tough to know what to do with injured guys, 204 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 1: I might add him a little tough to know what 205 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: to do with a Rogers. Yeah, I think you're I 206 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: would say, you're being generous. But it comes back to 207 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: what we're dealing with in the NFL, which Justin and 208 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: I talked about on Monday night, to of like just 209 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: offenses are down yards per attempt is way down in 210 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: terms of quarterbacks, and so once you go through the 211 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: rest of the list, Actually, I don't have anyone that 212 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: like screams they have to be ahead of Aaron Rodgers. 213 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: I personally would have Tanno Hire, but we'll we'll get 214 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: to have a question for Mark. Yes, what does Gino 215 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 1: Smith have to do to climb higher than he is? 216 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: He's seventh? Um, I mean that he's seventh. The guys 217 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: he's behind, other than Hurts might all be Hall of Famers. Yeah, 218 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's that. I think it's 219 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: just like we're you're getting closer and closer where it 220 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: should be. Based almost entirely on this season. I think 221 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: you're there after four or five weeks, I would say, 222 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: but I also like, look at the last game he had, 223 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: it's like he's been good, he's been great. I mean, 224 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: I guess I could go put him at three or four, 225 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: but I and I see that, you know, also like 226 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: I'll go check like pff or something after I do it. 227 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: And I mean all season long, he's been riding the top. PFF. 228 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: He's he's doing, he's qbr darling. But it's like I 229 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 1: just don't I look at the overall person and body 230 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: of work to some degree, still here in week six 231 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: and and he's seven. Is fine for MEAs like is 232 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: he a better quarterback than Tom Brady? I guess, But 233 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: part of it is like Tom Brady has been in 234 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: a rough environment, but he but he has been he 235 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: If you didn't know their names, you could you could 236 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: make a case for Gino Smith being high. I think 237 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: you gotta go purely on this year. And uh, I 238 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: don't think it's crazy to have him, That's what I mean. 239 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 1: I don't think it's crazy to have him at seven 240 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: purely on this year. Yes, all the numbers, UH would 241 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: say higher, They would say yeah, fourth, probably behind Hurts Mahomes. 242 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: And I did, at least in the high coup for 243 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: Geno Smith take a shot here myself, let's hear it. 244 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: The author of this column giggled at me in August. 245 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: Now he's hushed. M hmm. I mean, I'm taking a 246 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: huge dirt nap on the Geno front, and I've accepted it, 247 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: you and many others. I mean, it's Ryan Dan, Dan, 248 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of a lot of Geno daughters, 249 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: a lot of Jets fans out there. It is outrageous. 250 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: I weirdly liked last week as a Geno fan because 251 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: the heights he was reaching, we're getting a little outrageous. 252 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: And what I liked was the defense won them a 253 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: game and that he just had like a normal mediocre game. 254 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: Because if that's his baseline of like his lower games, 255 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: that's it. Yeah, you like the floor because he reminds 256 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: me a little bit of a more athletic now Dalton. 257 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: And I know that's a weird thing to say, but 258 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: it prime Dalton. Whereas I just think he makes the 259 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: right decisions, and I think he's ahead of the Dalton 260 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: scale certainly right now. He's certainly flasher, he makes better 261 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: at throws. I just mean that he kind of gives 262 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: what the defense, He takes what the defense gives him, 263 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 1: and he doesn't make a lot of bad decisions. And 264 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: maybe he holds the ball a little too long, so 265 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: that all reminds me, and he's accurate, and that reminds 266 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: me of Andy Dalton, but like a better version of it. 267 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: I think it's an incredible case study because I remember 268 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: like watching football when I was young and was like, oh, 269 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: Phil Simms finally turns a corner in his career in 270 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: year five, or like Joe thiseman had like years in 271 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: a row where he wasn't even a starter. It's like, 272 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: you didn't just give up on these guys and draft 273 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: someone new right away. And she knows a case where 274 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: like I'm not saying he created a lot of his 275 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: own issues. He wasn't. It wasn't excellent on tape when 276 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: he was playing back in the day. But it's like 277 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: these careers go through such bi rhythms and like give 278 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: up on these dudes. It's like who else is sitting 279 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: out there? That could be this version of Gino where 280 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: you've just learned to bathe in the league for long enough, 281 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: you feel more comfortable and your skill set takes over. 282 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: I think that's that's a great point. Mark, And Uh, 283 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: it reminds me a little bit of Fitzpatrick because people 284 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: think of Ryan Fitzpatrick in a certain way now, but 285 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: until he got that chance in Tampa, really, I don't 286 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: think they, like anyone would have thought he could have 287 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: had a late career renaissance like he did, and he 288 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: just got it through injury. And then you have this 289 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: three or four years where actually he played at a 290 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: higher level for those three or four years than really 291 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: any other point except for that one Buffalo. This happens 292 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: to quarterbacks throughout their career. I mean, quarterbacks hit their 293 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: prime in their thirties. Matt Ryan didn't win his first 294 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: m v p N till he was in that range. 295 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford got so much better than Ryan Tannehill. I 296 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: mean that was that wasn't he didn't go into the 297 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: wilderness for four years, but I mean he was ridden 298 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: out of town and then comeback Player of the Year 299 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: and looking like it. And I think it's for similar 300 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: reasons to Gino, because I think you look at the 301 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: way Gina wins and his experience is his most valuable 302 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: asset right now. I think he's just like a smart 303 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: he He always showed an ability to go through his 304 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: reads and stay calm, and that was the thing I 305 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: liked about him. Was like he was a real quarterback, 306 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: quarterback like and that usually means success. But I think 307 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: the fact that when your mind catches up to your 308 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: physical skills, and I think that happened with Tannehill. I 309 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: think that happened with Ben Roethlisberger late in his career 310 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: and that's why he got better. And now I'm struggling 311 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: to find your list again. Uh give me, uh give 312 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: me Rogers is hiku just because it's good. Sorry, I'm 313 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: just like commanding you. Like no, I I like how 314 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: this is operated. Give me a hiku. Aaron Rodgers? Uh 315 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: agitated peeved? Wait is that New York Jet skuy wearing 316 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: a cheesehead? Just the way that game ended, just you know, 317 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: so bizarre. Oh that's amazing. Uh to a like you 318 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: said his temper and that's a tough one. He I, 319 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: I didn't count. You can't please anyone. I don't mean you, 320 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: but anyone with wherever you put to a, you're gonna 321 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: anyone's going an off on something. To me, i'd have 322 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: him a little slightly lower, maybe based off his play, 323 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: but not because he was hurt. I do how I 324 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: thought of it was after about five weeks, it was 325 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: just like, what is the average start from this guy? 326 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: Like and then whatever that and then rank it that way. 327 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: That's a good with my own little head, good way 328 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: to do it. Cousins eleventh. You know he's he's been 329 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: eleventh forever. Uh. Kyler twelfth actually higher than I would expect. 330 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: Uh do you sort? We did talk about him a 331 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: lot Tuesday. I think we part of the reason is 332 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: we put a little more on maybe his coach than 333 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: than him. And then Tannehill thirteen, let's hear Tannehills. Uh, 334 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehills high cup is for those thinking he'd be 335 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: bounced by now from Leak Willis Tanny lives. I don't 336 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: know if many people thought he would be by now, 337 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: but it was got kind of dark there when they 338 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: drafted him, and it was like he talked about his 339 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: offseason and how disconnected he felt. They trade A. J. 340 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: Brown away. It was like they were starting over. See 341 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: sometimes the line breaks um are surprising and and I 342 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: like that. And so this is my reading of Guyan 343 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: Tan Hills for those thinking he'd be bounced by now. 344 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: For Malik Willis Tanny, I think are more of the 345 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: visual when you read it on page Okay, that's just 346 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: my t I thought there was like a whole I 347 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: could be wrong with the culture of like how people 348 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: read would wink the listener there by not having them 349 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: not know what I mean. It does have that element 350 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 1: to it, but sometimes you get the musicality for those 351 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: thinking he'd I like that pause be bounced by now 352 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: for maleik, I like that pause, and then willis Tanny lives. 353 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just like erratic and fun. I 354 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 1: would have him higher, and I know he doesn't probably 355 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: rate incredibly high in the advanced metrics. Actually he has been. 356 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 1: He has been ranking high in the completion percentage over 357 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: expectation plus e p A per pass attempt there just 358 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: don't throw the ball. I think he was second US 359 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: and I saw the Titans just don't throw the ball 360 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: very much. And yeah in QBR and I think PFF, 361 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: he's mediocre this year, and he had like a two 362 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: year run where they were on top of the world, 363 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 1: where he would always rank like third in PFF and 364 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 1: they'd have to defend it. I just watched him every 365 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: week and kind of like Gino, I think he just 366 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: makes good decisions, like he's a guy that you know 367 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: what you're gonna get and there's a lot to that, 368 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: and he makes more big throws than people realize. It's 369 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: one of my favorite quarterbacks to watch, and I felt 370 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: away for a couple of years, but I think there's 371 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: a toughness to his game. He's willing to take a 372 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: shot and fire it down field. I could see his 373 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 1: teammates love him for all that business and like that's 374 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 1: my kind of dude. Okay, Yeah, that the raw numbers 375 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: are are weird, Like he has thrown half as many 376 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: passes as Joe Burrow, so yeah, he doesn't miss the ball. Yeah. 377 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: They also had a bye week, but heading into last 378 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: week when Titans didn't play, Tannehill was tied for the 379 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 1: league leading games with a QB rating over one hundred 380 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: for this season with five out of They've had like 381 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: the streak of good halfs in a good way, and 382 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: he's been sent sational for like chunks of time in 383 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: a row. Here here's why I think he deserves to 384 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: be even higher. I would probably have him eight or nine. 385 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: I just think all the reasons that we give as 386 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: excuses for all these other quarterbacks, he's got those in spades, 387 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: and people don't think of Ryan Tannell as a guy 388 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: who improves his teammates, like lifts them. But I think 389 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: he's at that level now. He's no longer close to 390 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 1: the Dalton line to meet his offensive line in the past. 391 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: Protection has been terrible the last two years, and he 392 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 1: like makes it work. And his receivers aren't really that 393 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: good and he makes it work like that. I I 394 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: give him a lot of credit. Car and Stafford are 395 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: next Garoppolo goff. Wow. That to me, those are all 396 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: like in the from the same generation of players too. 397 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: I guess Stafford's a little older. Let's do Stafford at 398 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: a T and t ads should be fewer. Pick sixes 399 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: should be fewer too. Oh that's it. That might be 400 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: the winner so far. That's a good one. What about 401 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: uh little Caesar's ads? Well, you know, when you're dealing 402 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: with a five seven five syllable count like there's limited 403 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 1: space to uh, It's like it's like a less um 404 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: open field tweet. I think he's getting a little bit 405 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 1: of credit for what he did a year ago. Uh. 406 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,959 Speaker 1: And the situation is tough because he struggled. He has 407 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: not looked good. I think it's with some of these 408 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: guys like the floor is about to fall out. If 409 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: if what we see is what we're gonna get, we'll 410 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: talk about them when they come off the by. But 411 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: they were under center a lot more against the Panthers, 412 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 1: and it really worked well. The numbers were great for 413 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 1: Stafford under center. That was sort of more of the 414 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: old basic Jared Goff offense. Our friend Maurice Jones Drew 415 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: who does their broadcast, was saying mcveigh's gotta stop being 416 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: stubborn and realized like, kind of go back to use 417 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: that trope again, simplify, go back to the basics. But 418 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: he said, but they were doing that, I think against 419 00:20:55,560 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 1: the Panthers, and it worked all right. Jared Goff, Daniel Jones, 420 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 1: Mariota and Dalton. I've really cracked up checking the PFUH 421 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: numbers the last couple of weeks because Andy Dalton is 422 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: fourth right now among their qualifying quartotas. That it's funny 423 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 1: because I think it's because they look they grade in 424 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: such a way that made me like Tannehill and Gino 425 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: two in that they just grade like pluses and minuses, 426 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 1: and like he just has so few minuses that you're 427 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: just like, oh, he pretty much does the right thing, 428 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: and he doesn't hurt you. It's been a good version 429 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: of Daltons. I also I think that you know, but 430 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: he's not not a lot of flash, not a flash. 431 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: I mean. Also the most exciting um performance uh in 432 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 1: the backfield came from Taysom Hill. Recently he's sort of 433 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: like got a sidecar doing stuff he could do and 434 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: throwing a touchdown in that game. But Dalton's been really clean. 435 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: But like I do think there's an human element where 436 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 1: it's like I can't put Dalton at number four or five, 437 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: like come on, I mean that's preposterous and there's no 438 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: way he's even played at that level anyway. So if 439 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: you wanted to give him some love, you could maybe 440 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: put him ahead of Daniel Jones. I know he hasn't 441 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: won mini games. I don't know. I think you've got 442 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: him in just the right spot. And I was too 443 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 1: hard on you last week with your Jimmy g at sixteen. 444 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: He's been steady too, he played well. I had him 445 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: higher last week because he had had to I thought 446 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: promising performances in a row, but then he came back 447 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 1: to earth a little bit. The start of the show 448 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: here though, is your high Cuz, let's go with you're 449 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: gonna rip him off in a row. We're gonna do 450 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: something different. Three quarterbacks in a row, Jared Goff, Daniel Jones, 451 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:35,239 Speaker 1: and Mariota. Okay, Jared Goff off adequate golf. Lucky there 452 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: aren't thirty other Belichicks just because Belichick just owns them. 453 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones operating as a s Quan handoff robot who 454 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: does just enough. It doesn't maybe a little harsh on 455 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones handoff robot is just a very uh poetic image. 456 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: You know that's what Pops? Do you want me to do? Mariota? 457 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 1: Was that the third one here? Um? I flung a 458 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: t D to Kyle Pitts. Time to chill fantasy nimrods. 459 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: Although I think from a real football angle that was 460 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: a nice development too, I mean it was, But you're right, 461 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:15,479 Speaker 1: I am getting I've gotten annoyed by the whole like 462 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 1: fantasy community because I follow enough of them on Twitter. 463 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: Are like really mad at the Falcons and the Jets. 464 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 1: They're just like really mad at Arthur Smith and uh 465 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 1: Mike la Fleur for running efficient offenses that are back 466 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: in there. They're not. It's not resulting in good fantasy 467 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: numbers for anyone, but get over yourself. They're actually good 468 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: offenses for what they need to be. Did you see 469 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 1: Elijah Moore's tweet after the game one that was unfortunate? Yeah? 470 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: He said, like if I said what I really wanted 471 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: to say, It's like if you say that, you might 472 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 1: as well just say it because you've already said it. 473 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: But he's like, I'm happy we're winning, but yeah, this sucks. 474 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: Uh you might want to say, like, uh, yeah that 475 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: Flacco we were throwing it for like three d and 476 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: sixty yards and like three inter se is a different 477 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: of it. Can we get some like music or sound 478 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: accompaniment to when Mark reads this? I, uh, I'm gonna 479 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 1: read Andy Dalton's How about that? Andy Dalton glowing red 480 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: ginger Man average skills, a key back tastes them to start. 481 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,199 Speaker 1: Not that was it was a bad reading. I mean, 482 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: have it changed that too? Because I think we're getting 483 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: closer to Dalton starting. It looks like he's gonna start 484 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: on Thursday night. All right, your next uh five, we'll 485 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,719 Speaker 1: we'll say. Trevor, Lawrence Russell, Wilson, Matt Ryan moving up 486 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: this week, Carson Wentz moving down he has that injury four? 487 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 1: Can he pickets at five? I gotta say the single 488 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 1: most surprising ranking you had to me was Russell Wilson. 489 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: I thought he would be even lower. Let's hear that 490 00:24:54,240 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: sad music for the for the Russell WILSONI depressing yards 491 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: after halftime is not what Denver paid for. I think 492 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: that was good because it's stripped away the artifice, like 493 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: the poetry, you know what I mean, Like something needs 494 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: to be flowery, have that image. In this case, everything 495 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: is dark and you just gave us like the simple 496 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: plain words of darkness. Yeah, I mean, so you're you 497 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: would like to see him? Well, you mentioned on our 498 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 1: other show that you felt he was at the very 499 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: bottom of the league. Who has played worse at quarterback 500 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: than and then Russell Wilson this year. I'm gonna go 501 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: through your list. P J. Walker is on the list 502 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 1: right now. And whoever is the Panthers guy? Yes, Davis Mills. 503 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 1: I think I'd put Mills ahead of him. Cooper Rush. 504 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: I'd put Cooper Rush ahead him. I would say Cooper 505 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 1: Russia's average game was better. Justin field. We love Akholder back. 506 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: I put dustin fields behind him. So that's thirty. So 507 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: that's two. Bailey's Appy, I got it. Bailey's Appy's definitely 508 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: had a rustle. Well I just want but just right now, 509 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: Bailey Zappy's average game has absolutely been better. Zack Wilson 510 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: I put ahead of him, not by a ton and 511 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 1: then yeah, so yeah, I think i'd have him thirty. Wow. 512 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I just I guess with Russell will I mean, 513 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: he's looked terrible. He's seen yards after it's the whole 514 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: thing seems so broken that I don't hate what you're saying. 515 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: I um, I mean, he's gonna sink like a stone 516 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 1: if this is what is what he is right now, 517 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 1: because I don't know how you go through another off 518 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: season if this is Russell Wilson all season saying we're 519 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: gonna roll this whole thing out again. Now. Uh. You know, 520 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: some of the numbers are closer to you. The e 521 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: p A completion percentage over expected composite has him twenty 522 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: six out of thirty three, so a little closer to you. 523 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: Completion percentage over expected similar, He's ahead of about five 524 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: or six guys QB are similar, and just the eye 525 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: test in PFF, which to me is sometimes kind of 526 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: similar has him about. Yeah, I had a five or 527 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: six guys. So either way though, it's somewhere between our two. Right, 528 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 1: it's surprising, no matter what I mean, it's crazy. I 529 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: can you think of any example, And this is tough. 530 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: It's putting you on the spot. I couldn't come up 531 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: with anything in the history, at least in the last 532 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: twenty years when we're covering the NFL, like, has there 533 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: ever been like something like this, a dramatic fall off 534 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: for a great you know, potentially Hall of Fame quarterback 535 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: this fast? Certainly not while changing teams, because that like 536 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: has hasn't really happened. That hasn't happened. I can't come 537 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: up with anything. I mean not not if you look 538 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: at Russell Wilson's age, because he's not forty two. Um, 539 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: I would point to like a startling fall off. A 540 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: cliff was Brett Farve in two thousand and ten, but 541 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: not surprising. It just was hard to watch. I mean 542 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,719 Speaker 1: maybe even then he had kind of fallen. He had 543 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: declined pretty hard before that two thousand nine season, and 544 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: that was like his resurgence. So it's sort of made sense. 545 00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess, like you know, it was to 546 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: pressing to watch another Bronco Peyton Manning during that Super 547 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 1: Bowl season. His exit like you know, be replaced by Brocks. 548 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: That was like a neck injury and age too true, 549 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: but it was truly shocking because he had shown no 550 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: signs the year before he was still like that's also 551 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: I would say that there was natural age going on there, 552 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 1: and Roethlisberger is a guy who age was like purely 553 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: the reason he fell off a claiming if anybody Wilson's 554 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: still young, Wilson's not not in that group where he 555 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: was at the age. Raethlisberger was a guy everyone said 556 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: would age poorly, and the reality was he didn't. That 557 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: didn't happen until he was thirty eight thirty nine. He 558 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: was maybe playing the best football of his career at 559 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's age. And they're pretty similar players. I think 560 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: if you had to come up with I know that 561 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: the size is so different, but in the in the 562 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: running ability, but I think in some ways they're they're 563 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: about as similar as anyone I can come up with 564 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: for Ben, and but it's like it's a unique case. 565 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: And I also think this season, especially like it's been 566 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: if they had been tucked away at one pm Eastern, 567 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: six games in a row, A lot less people would 568 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: be talking about it, but like it's been so visual 569 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: and so island gaming and so in our face. Yeah, 570 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what to do with Trevor Lawrence. I 571 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: think you have him in in the exact right spot 572 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: at I don't know if he's hot and cold so 573 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: much as just um, not there yet, and that's fine. 574 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: He's in the second year, some progress this year, certainly. 575 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: I think you've got him in the perfect spot, which 576 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: would be it's weird because he'd be a Dalton right 577 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: now at twenty is kind of the Dalton scale. He's 578 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,479 Speaker 1: the Dalton. Is the Dalton line right now? Maybe on 579 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: this list, and Lawrence, I would say, is like right 580 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: at it, right at it. Maybe he's one above it, 581 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: maybe he's one below. Uh. You want to do matt 582 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: Ryan's hiku where they all said sad autumn brighter after 583 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: Mattie ice flings and third throws. We'll get to it 584 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: on Thursday, but Mattie I showed something that was a 585 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: great game. It was a nice change for them. This 586 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: just feels like poetry music to me. And yeah, not 587 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: necessarily sad. I mean it is sad, But yeah, I 588 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: think you're a little hard on, uh, your guy, Jacoby Brissette. 589 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: I think you're showing some of your yeah, some of 590 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: your feelings there. It's like you're you're harder on him. 591 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: I think he played so great until last week. I know, 592 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: I know he had some big time misses and that's why, 593 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: a big time mistakes and key spots, and that's why 594 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: you couldn't put him in the top ten where all 595 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: the advanced stats would have had him before last week. 596 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: But to me, he would He would have been closer 597 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: to like fifteen going into last week and six and 598 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:49,719 Speaker 1: it was a bad game out of him, there was 599 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: no question about. I just kind of think that might 600 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: be like what we just saw is like more the 601 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissette we're going to see um, But he also 602 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: had three killer miss stakes that prevented them from winning games. 603 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: It kind of bothers me. But can we get the 604 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: haiku for him to Jacoby passes times? Chubb carries twelve, 605 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:22,959 Speaker 1: Pat's a bomb Browns. That's amazing. Trying out some new 606 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: music there. I like that. I like that fit. You know, 607 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: I was very basic. I don't know if Dan would 608 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: have you know, spiced it up. I just went straight 609 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: through the list. We're hitting the bottom five Zack Wilson. 610 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: Pretty low for Zack, but I guess it makes sense. 611 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: Hasn't played that much and hasn't done that much. Bailey Zappy, 612 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: he's gotten better each week. Justin Fields, Cooper Rush, Davis Mills, 613 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: and then P. J. Walker, who believe only completed one 614 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: pass past the line of scrimmage, which is like sixty 615 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: yards when he was taken out of the game. That 616 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: was a tough situation. I think of his completions were 617 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: behind the line of scrimmage. Um, all right, our final 618 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: two high coups we're gonna do for the day. Let's end. 619 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: Uh strong love these two. Cooper Rush at thirty and 620 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: Davis Mills at third. All right, here's Cooper Rush, Cooper Rush. 621 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: Time for Jara to leave a suitcase full of green 622 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: bills in my locker. Davis Mills, Mills wondering if Easter 623 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: but will return his R. E. M C D. That's 624 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: another Easter Egg, one that's been exclusive to the pods, 625 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: been asked to be edited. I don't even want to 626 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: go deeper into that joke. Um, I just love uh 627 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: that image just strange. Team Jack borrow that reckoning c D. 628 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, they have that reckon, you have reckoning 629 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: love that hour from Davis Mills, who's like very little 630 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: of an r M fan. I'm an Davis will has 631 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: been uh like a little disappointing to me this year. 632 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: He's just not accurate, uh deeper down the field and 633 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: you just haven't seen the flash plays. He's played like 634 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: a perfectly competent backup at worst, but he hasn't. He's 635 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: I think shown less than a year. He hasn't been bad. 636 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: It has been bad, but he's not good. I was 637 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: expecting him to kind of be Um a favorite of mine, 638 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: in a nice surprise, and it's not really held true. 639 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: The ball just doesn't go where he intended to go, 640 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: which is like the number one thing um that bothers 641 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: me when you're watching them each and every week, because 642 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: you you can never overcome that unless you're Josh Allen 643 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: and then you become the greatest chord back in the world. Uh. 644 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: And yeah, Cooper Rush was on the practice squad and 645 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: it's only making a million dollars. Give me a break 646 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: for all the overpaid cowboys that they have over the year, 647 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: they better give him like an assistant vice president, uh 648 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: job to like you know, charity and in the off season, 649 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: and like I I went to are the Cap to 650 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: look at where he ranked, and it's like there are 651 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: some absurd human beings making more than he is from 652 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: what he's done this year. But right, some of them 653 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: probably are not playing football. They're they're out of the 654 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 1: league and they have guaranteed money. Uh yeah, Cooper, rusty 655 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,919 Speaker 1: of their season. And I think we've saved um this 656 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: podcast and not that it needed it. Um, I mean 657 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: the the hole around the NFL, this individual spinoff show, 658 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: I mean the whole enterprise. We needed an injection of 659 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:33,359 Speaker 1: surprise and um daring do and haiku. And we've done it. 660 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: We've done it this Wednesday. We've done it. Thank you, 661 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 1: Grave Digger. We credit you for that. Oh no, don't 662 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: do that. Yes, fabulous, fabulous uh producing and just a 663 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: little something extra for the listeners. I hope you guys 664 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: liked it. Uh, let us know. And if you don't 665 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,959 Speaker 1: like it, don't let us know. That's how I don't 666 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,720 Speaker 1: get into our headspace with complaints. We will be back 667 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,959 Speaker 1: on Thursday and Friday with our regularly scheduled preview show 668 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: and uh Friday Fun Show. It's fun Mark. I had 669 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: fun for Mark Sassler, grave digger. He'd the call M