1 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: Welcome back, everybody. We're here with another episode of American Gravy. 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: What a week. 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 2: I am hungry, I am starving. I'm always hungry. 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: Actually that is true. I'm also always hungry. I get 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 1: a lot more hungry later in the day. I don't 6 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: know why you'm not a eating guy. 7 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 2: He doesn't eat during the day. 8 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: And then before I go to bed at night, I'll 9 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: eat like six thousand calories. 10 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 2: All right, Well, anyway, I'm Lauren Girl and. 11 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: I'm Andrew Grew and welcome back to another episode of 12 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: American Gravy, where food meets fun, flavor meets the absurd. 13 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: I guess i'd be the absurd here. 14 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 2: Yes, we are going to dive into some of the funniest, strangest, 15 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: and most mouthwatering food stories making the rounds. 16 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: Because, let's face it, food news these days have gone 17 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: officially off the rails. We're here to bring it back 18 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: on the rails. I love that. Yeah, it's good. You know, 19 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: we're trying some new material out here. But thank you 20 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: all who have kind of stuck around yeah and are 21 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: continuing to listen to these episodes. This is fun and 22 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: we love all of your feedback. You can always give 23 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: us feedback at Chef Gruel. 24 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: On x at Lauren Girl on x or at Louren 25 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 2: underscore rule on Instagram. All right, so, Andrew, yes, we 26 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 2: have kids. We have four kids. 27 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: We're unaware. Okay, sometimes I just think they're my friends. 28 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Okay, we'll get into that later. 29 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:16,199 Speaker 1: Okay. 30 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 2: So, is avoiding ultra processed foods with our kids unrealistic, 31 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 2: like totally avoiding them? 32 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: Well, and that's the yes, it is unrealistic. It is 33 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: unrealistic to assume that overnight somebody's just going to wipe 34 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: out ultra processed foods from a kid's diet. But I 35 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: think we need to define ultra processed foods. Okay. 36 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: Well, there was an article in the Atlantic by Olga Kazan. 37 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: Oh she's doing all right, you know, she has a 38 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 2: good bors. 39 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. The heck is that it's a period chill beetroot soup. 40 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 2: Ooh, can't wait to try it. Okay, So she makes 41 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: a pretty good point. So this I'm going to read 42 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: a quote from her article. 43 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: Okay. 44 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: So, nevertheless, like many working parents, I find that feeding 45 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: my family a diet free of ultra processed foods is impossible. 46 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: After a long day of fighting with my eighteen month 47 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: old over whether he can touch the trash, No, and 48 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: whether he can eat the trash also No. Sometimes all 49 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 2: I can do is throw some ultra process mac and 50 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: cheese at him and drown my own sorrows and some 51 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 2: trader DRO's white Kesso dip. The efforts to get parents 52 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 2: to give up these types of comforts in favor of 53 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 2: home roasted vegetables are frustrating and unrealistic. 54 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,119 Speaker 1: Well, and this is the thing though, is by the way, 55 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: and I appreciate that sentiment, And the entire theme of 56 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: this article was a bit pro processed foods, and she 57 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: was taking some jabs at like RFK Junior and the 58 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: Maha movement and the Maha movement, right So like, I 59 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: don't like the overall theme of this article. However, she 60 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: does make a good point that I think that we 61 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: shouldn't ignore. And in this Maha movement, we've talked about 62 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: alternatives and different ways you can cook and you can 63 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: eat and spend more time around the kitchen table and 64 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: understanding where your food is coming from. Right Like, it's 65 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: a very broad movement when it comes to the ultra 66 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 1: processed food piece. Because people want advice in a sound bite. 67 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: So it's like, don'tat processed food. Well, people need to understand. 68 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: So processed food is any I mean, if you cut potatoes, 69 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: that's processed foods, right, So I think the ultra is important. 70 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: Ultra Processed food is food that's been processed or used 71 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: cut as the analogy in your mind, or cooked or 72 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: you know, poached or blanched and then treated with a 73 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: significant amount of See I would say chemicals, but then 74 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: everyone would be like, well if theod is a chemical, right, 75 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: Like everyone's always trying to play like wordsmith, you to 76 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: attack your point treated with something that I can't find 77 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: in nature, like hanging on a tree or coming off 78 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: of a cow, or coming up from the soil, right, Like, 79 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: you're not gonna find xantham gum like on the side 80 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: of the road. I'm not going to go forage for 81 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: xantham gum or soy lesse thin or artificial food dies 82 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: or any of the other numerous chemicals that we read 83 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,119 Speaker 1: on the ingredients lists. And the reason there's so many 84 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: chemicals in our food, more and more and more as 85 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: time goes on, is because they want to have longer 86 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: shelf life. They want to manipulate and change the flavors 87 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: of the food to make it more addictive. That's a fact. 88 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: That's what the food manufacturing companies do. And then what 89 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: they've also done is they've used chemicals in the form 90 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: of pesticides and different types of fertilizers and as well 91 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: as through the food manufacturing and processing techniques to actually 92 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: remove a lot of the nutrients from the food. But 93 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: then they enrich them. And enriching is like when you 94 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: see enriched flour. 95 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: Well, that's what they did with which I thought was 96 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: kind of interesting. Remember they put in all to corn tortillas. 97 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: I believe they put threw in what was it? Was 98 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 2: it thigh I mean or no, it was like folic acid. 99 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 2: Folic acid that they were That was the most racist 100 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 2: bill by the way. 101 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: They said that. They said that tortillas have to have 102 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: folic acid because specifically Latino women are lacking in folic 103 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: acid through the. 104 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 2: It's for the when they're pregnant, right, it's supposed to. 105 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: But I'm like, okay, that's a little racist. 106 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: So they put them into tortilla. Them get them in tortilla. 107 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: First of all, I would suggest that like middle aged 108 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: white women are the highest purchasers of tortillas in California. 109 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: But that's just a case of DA movement. So I 110 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: think the enriching piece is important because they're im going 111 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: to come back full circle here is is that so 112 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: then you strip all the nutrients, you strip all the 113 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: quality out of the food, but then you add it 114 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: back in like supplements and vitamins, right like enriched grain 115 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: where they add vitamin A, vitamin D like etc. Back 116 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: to it. You know, same thing with orange juice right 117 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 1: like they'll strip all that out and then they'll add vitamin. 118 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 2: C back to the orange juice, which is so weird 119 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 2: yeap is it because it's not like shelf stable, like 120 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: it doesn't last that long. 121 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: So well, it's because when you like a lot of 122 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: the vitamins that come in like the pit and come 123 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: through the whole orange. So when you want to do 124 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: pull free orange juice, you're losing a lot of it. 125 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: Well also I know from what I heard actually is 126 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 2: if like you're if you were to you know, juice, 127 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 2: say your own orange juice, Like the quicker you drink it, 128 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 2: the more the nutritional value holds up. So if you 129 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: let it sit out for a long periods of time, 130 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 2: it kind of depletes, is that true. 131 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, food that sits for a while does lose their 132 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 1: nutritional value. And then also food the more you cook it, 133 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 1: the more nutrient to lose. That's why you've got a 134 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: lot of people in the carnivore movement that are like, 135 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: eat it only rare or even raw, because that's how 136 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: you're getting the full benefits of the meat. Yeah, that's 137 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: steak tartar. I love steak tartar. Yeah, exactly. I've I 138 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: think I got her to marry me on steak tartar. 139 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 2: It's true. 140 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: It was that or or or sandwiches. 141 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 2: Do we have steak tartar like Wolfgang Puck in Vegas? 142 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: I we had. I woke you up one morning with 143 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: steak tartar on your bedside table. It wasn't steak based. 144 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 2: This is before we were married. 145 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:30,239 Speaker 1: So what so my, so kind of my, my, my. 146 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: My final punctuation on this story is this, we're obfuscating 147 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: the issue by talking about, well, maybe ultra processed foods 148 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: aren't that bad, right and trust the science, or we're 149 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: all so busy, you see, that's not the problem. The 150 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: real problem here is that there's not many options in 151 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: the market for less less processed foods or healthier foods 152 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: which are also quote processed not ultra processed, because the 153 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: only options that you have to buy foods are from 154 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: one of the few food manufacturers. Now there's sub brands 155 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: like Trader Joe's. She mentions Trader Joe's in this article. 156 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: The Trader Joe's mac and cheese is no different than 157 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: the Craft mac and cheese. It just comes in a 158 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: cool box with a cooler label, and it's kind of 159 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: fun and quirky. It's the same junk. So what I've 160 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: said is, Okay, we get it. We're tight on time, 161 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: we're tight on money. We need to change the incentive 162 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: structure for the businesses that are producing these foods. There 163 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: is enough chefs out there and Maha folk who are 164 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: willing to produce seatial free chicken tenders that are lightly 165 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: processed as opposed to the junk that we're getting from 166 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: Tyson or the Dino nuggets. There's enough independent food manufacturers 167 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: out there who can produce this good food for working parents, 168 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: but the market has pushed them out. There's too many 169 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: barriers of entry for them to get into the market, 170 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: and those barriers come from the USDA, the FDA, local 171 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: health departments, local cities even and in furthermore, access to capital. 172 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: So that's why these big guys end up taking all 173 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: of the market share and forcing all this ultra processed 174 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: food down our throats. So I think in conclusion on 175 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: this article, yeah, we get it. It's not going to 176 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: be an overnight fix. However, we can change the market, 177 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: and by virtue of changing the market, we can fix 178 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: our behaviors. 179 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: Right, And I'll just touch on this, you know, is 180 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 2: it is hard, right, especially when we're short on time 181 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 2: and our kids are in a million sports and activities, 182 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 2: it is easier to just throw them a bag of 183 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 2: goldfish or whatever it is. I'm not saying we give 184 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 2: them goldfish, but it is easier. So I agree with 185 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 2: her on that because sometimes it is impossible, seems at 186 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 2: the time impossible to make something you know, that's super 187 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 2: nutrient dense and what have you. 188 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's why we've worked to do things like 189 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: get our kids addicted to real foods. Right, So you 190 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: want the goldfish because you're getting that cheddar flavor in 191 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: the youmami, etc. And the crunch like we give our 192 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: like our kids eat cheese as if they're there's no tomorrow. 193 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: They love cheese, yep, so like we'll have we'll always 194 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: introduce them to different flavors of cheese, grate cheese, age cheese, 195 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: raw cheese, you name it. And then the crunch element 196 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: is really just like some sort of a cracker, so 197 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: you can get like also toasting, like we've gotten our 198 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: kids to like if they're gonna want to eat the carbs, like, 199 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: let's get a good bread product and then they toasted themselves. 200 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 2: And moms, if all you can give your kids is 201 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 2: that ultra process stuff, you're still doing a good job. 202 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 2: I know it's hard. 203 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: I'm not like one meal a week. 204 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's not you know, crap on everybody who's unable 205 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 2: to do this, of course. 206 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: And that's that's what I want to avoid because I 207 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: think that's turned a lot of people off to the 208 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 1: movement because there's this all or nothing approach, this perfecting. 209 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: It is unrealistic. 210 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 2: It really is. 211 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: Start with one meal a week, one meal a week 212 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 1: around the table. And what I will tell you anecdotally 213 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: is that when you get your kids to help you 214 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: cook the food, they will eat the food. 215 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, you made like tomato and bean soup the other day, 216 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 2: and James thought it was the best thing in the. 217 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: Because he helped us make it. So, like, we cut 218 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: all the ingredients and this is a recent episode on 219 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: our American Gravy Show. We cut all the ingredients, but 220 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: then we built it in a soup pot and we 221 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: let him put it in and stir it and add 222 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: it and stir it and add olive oil and salt, 223 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: et cetera. He ate like six. He was like, that 224 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: is the best thing. El Yeah, it was like zucchini 225 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: and squash. I mean, yeah, this kid was like two 226 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 1: steps away. It's involved frog legsky. 227 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Get your kids involved at least one meal 228 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 2: a week where you guys are sitting around the table. 229 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: There's enough food education and information out there from YouTube 230 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: across like Rumble, you name it, like all these platforms 231 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: where you can pick up a couple tips here and there, 232 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: but getting your kids involved is a key to that. 233 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: So I don't want to poopoo the story too much. 234 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: I think the angle was a little bit political. I 235 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: don't like that, although I do think we should lend 236 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: credence to some of the feelings that people feel as 237 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: if the perfect is ruining good. 238 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 2: Speaking of ultra processed food protein powders. 239 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: What about protein? They can chain a lot of stuff 240 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: they do, can I'm full on protein right now, including 241 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: lead like from a number two pencil. 242 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 2: I don't know. 243 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: So you can smudge a protein powder all over a 244 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: scantron and get an A on the test. 245 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: And possibly so. Over the past fifteen years, Americans obsession 246 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,839 Speaker 2: with protein has transformed. 247 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: Would you agree, Oh my gosh, well no, I agree, 248 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: but I see I think that's a positive. You and 249 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 1: I were talking on the way up here and you 250 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 1: were like, oh my god, the obsession has gotten like overboard, 251 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: which I do. Well, think it's gone overboard. 252 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 2: Because I mean, even if you go on you know, Instagram, 253 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 2: for instance, everything is about protein and getting this much protein. 254 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: I was trying to get enough protein. 255 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 2: It was it was bad. 256 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: Well, I think that. I think that it's it's created 257 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: like micro industries for protein powders and supplements and co packers, 258 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: et cetera. And you don't know like what you're getting 259 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: in those protein powders because a lot of them do 260 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: have other junk in there to make them sweet, and 261 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: it's like sugary. What right? 262 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: I mean? I just saw the other day. There's protein popcorn. 263 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 2: They're just throwing away, is protein popcorn? Apparently this popcorn 264 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 2: has protein in it. 265 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: Well, I'm see, and this is where the food marketing 266 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: machine comes in and is it? 267 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 2: But then I'm thinking, is is there protein? And popcorn 268 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 2: in general? 269 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. I never look at like, yeah, there's 270 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: a little protein in there, okay, and especially if you 271 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: do the cheese dust, you might get zero point three 272 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: grams of protein. It's the food marketing machine. The same 273 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: thing happened with sustainability. The same thing was going on 274 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: in the nineties with like the carb count and like 275 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: simple carbs, right, like there's always that a fiber or 276 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: all natural. What happens is there's a movement and in 277 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: the big food marketing machines, the food manufacturers, they pick 278 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: up on this kind of marketing buzz term movement and 279 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: they put it on everything. And then you lose you 280 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: lose focus and definition on the original movement or the 281 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: original word, right, because now you're seeing on packaging they'll 282 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 1: be like nine grams of protein and it's marketing on 283 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: the xterior of the package. It's the same trisk it 284 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: or it's the same productor exact same. 285 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 2: They just have the grams of protein on the front. Now. 286 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, like, let's just say that artificial food dies suddenly 287 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: were a good thing, and people are like, oh, we 288 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: love artificials food. Does it'd be like thirty two grams 289 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: of artificial food dies right, Like, in fact, they're just 290 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: highlighting and remarketing something within their product. They're not changing 291 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: the formula. And we've talked about that in previous episodes. So, like, 292 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: proteins are good, but what I would say about the 293 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: proteins is, don't get obsessed with the protein powders. By 294 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: the time you We know this because we make a 295 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 1: lot of shakes in our house. 296 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 2: Can I just part sorry, I don't want to catch you. So, 297 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 2: can anyone point us in the right direction of a 298 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 2: good protein powder that's not gonna make us poop our pants? 299 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: We've tried whoa, whoa, We have tried them all this 300 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: protein does a lot of these protein powders hurt my stomach. 301 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's a few that are okay for me, 302 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 2: but I cannot for whatever reason I me and why 303 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 2: protein do not work? 304 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: No way, yes, way it bus away. Okay, Yeah, it's 305 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: the way, but like that's a great protein. But I've 306 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: really just relegated myself. I'll just eat steak, chicken. I'll 307 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: just eat meat all day. 308 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 2: Well, I did see something the other day. This lady 309 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 2: was like, stop going for the protein bar, just make 310 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 2: a chicken cutlet. 311 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, because if you're getting like nineteen grams of protein 312 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: and a full protein shake with all that other stuff 313 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: in there, you could cook a piece of mahi which 314 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: is like packed with protein. 315 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 2: Or mahi has eight ounces of mahi is like forty 316 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 2: two grams of protein. 317 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: I would much rather just like eat a piece of 318 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 1: mahi while I'm walking down the street. Yeah, let's let's 319 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: start that trying chicken brass. Yeah, just like walking around. 320 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: I did that the other day. I remember I cooked 321 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: all that steak on Sunday and then I just left 322 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: the house with like a cold New York strip stake. 323 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 2: But we went on a walk and he's just walking 324 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 2: around the block eating piece of steak. 325 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: It is true, once again, another reason why the neighbors 326 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: don't talk to us. 327 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 2: Actually, speaking of neighbors, somebody let their dog poop all 328 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 2: over our driveway. 329 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: I am livid. First of all, let me say this, 330 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: there is a secret like sidewalk pooper in our neighborhood. 331 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: So what what? Laura and I have been going on 332 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: a lot of walks lately. We're I feel like we're 333 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: like a ninety year old couple. We got on TV 334 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: that's closed caption. I can't hear anything, so I'm always saying. 335 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 2: What I'm falling for the AI videos. 336 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: Now I'm talking about eating oatmeal before I go to bed. 337 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: And now when we're we're taking leisurely walks while holding hands. 338 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: It's very romantic. But we walk and we're walking down 339 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: the street the other day and I'm like, oh, look out, 340 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: there's like a little it was like a trail of poop. 341 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: Well there was just like one. 342 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 2: It was like the dogs still on a walk and 343 00:14:58,240 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 2: the poop is just coming out. 344 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: Yep, we go five feet, another little poop, five feet 345 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: another one. This one was was shmered. 346 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. But then this morning, on our way to take 347 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 2: taking the kids to school, I go Andrew will never 348 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 2: believe this, there's poo in our driveway. He's like, no way, 349 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 2: there's I'm not kidding. They're pooh. 350 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: So a dog had to walk up. It was either 351 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: a dog or a human. It might have been a gorilla. 352 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: It was pretty big, so the dog had to walk 353 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: up into our driveway and drop a deuce and it 354 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: was fresh. There was like a little steam on there. 355 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: But what I'm going to do is I am now 356 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: going to start measuring. I'm going to get the exact size, 357 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: and I'm going to find it like finger printing, but 358 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: like matching the poop with the dog, matching fingerprints to 359 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: the to the criminal. 360 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 2: But also, it's not the dog's faut, it's the owner's fault. 361 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 2: Why is the owner just letting its everywhere? 362 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: I don't care. Dog's in on it. Dogs should know better. 363 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 2: Okay, well it should have at least done it in 364 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 2: the grass. Why would do it on our driveway? 365 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: That way, at least you can wipe it off the 366 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: driveway easier, spray it down. If it's in the grass, 367 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: the kids jump on it and then the next thing 368 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: you know, it ends up in their bed. So if 369 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: you listening, if you're the secret of Cooper, just get out. 370 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: We're coming after you. I'm going to get involved with 371 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: city council on this one. Get the forends, you know what. 372 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 2: We got to pull up our cameras and find out 373 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 2: who this was. 374 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, unfortunately we're not going to talk about that. 375 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: But all right, good times. What's our next story today? MTV? 376 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 2: That was the thing growing up MTV, Remember TRL Total 377 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 2: Crest Live. 378 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: I would run home at Carson Dally. 379 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 2: Yes, I would sprint home from school to see the 380 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 2: latest music video drop right, And that was the thing. 381 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 2: It was like all the excitement in the world. You 382 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 2: would call your friends everyone to talk about the new 383 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 2: song that dropped. Oh my god, did you see so 384 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 2: and so in the music video? It was the thing. 385 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: You know, MTV is closing, MTV shutting down. 386 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 2: But this leads me to I guess the topic of 387 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,359 Speaker 2: this is celebrity relevance. 388 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: Are they relevant any longer? Well, like MTV celebrities not 389 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: going to be relevant. 390 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 2: But I don't know, I'm saying. But even back then, 391 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 2: it was like you had to watch all the award 392 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 2: shows and you wanted to see what people were wearing. 393 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 2: And I actually spoke with our daughter the other day 394 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 2: and there was a picture of Hillary Duff she posted 395 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 2: on her Instagram and I said, and she was young, 396 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 2: and I said, I was there. It was at her 397 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 2: album signing, because I have a picture of it, and 398 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 2: you know. She was like, why were you there? And 399 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 2: I was like, that's the only way you interacted with celebrities. 400 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 2: You didn't have this access to them at all times 401 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,959 Speaker 2: on social media and their updates on their lives, like 402 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 2: every you know what I mean as. 403 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,479 Speaker 1: Social media killed the celebrity. Ooh, that could be our 404 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 1: next article. 405 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 2: Yes, possibly because because you know everything about them now 406 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 2: before they were kind of mysterious. 407 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: They that's a great point, they were mysterious. I don't 408 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: want to know everything about you. I don't want to 409 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: hear you, I think about you. 410 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 2: It has turned me off to so many people I 411 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 2: once looked up to, well. 412 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 1: Especially because you find out that their brains are made 413 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: of cabbage. A lot of them just don't have the 414 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: like thought and intellect that you assume they did by 415 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: way of like their lyrics. 416 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 2: You used the thing they were like the coolest, they 417 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 2: must be the coolest people in the world. 418 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 1: And now I'm like, gosh, you're a moron. But now 419 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: every celebrity has also become political. 420 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it is also annoying, which is also annoying. 421 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 2: I mean, they are people, they have, you know, the 422 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 2: right to their own opinion, but sometimes it's like, come. 423 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: On, well, you're right. I find the ones I find 424 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 1: annoying are the ones that are just like kind of 425 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: reciting the tropes. Yeah, the political tropes that they're being told. 426 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 2: By do as I say, not as I do type 427 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 2: of people. 428 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of those. Well, to me, politician 429 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: and hypocrite are synonymous with one another, so if they 430 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: try and become politicians, then that ultimately taints who they are. Yeah. 431 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 1: You know what I loved about MTV? I will say 432 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: this is that what was the show where the popcorn 433 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: came down? Oh? Remote Control? Remember they would sit in 434 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: the chairs. I'm pretty sure Adam Carolla was on that 435 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: Remote Control. Yeah, Remote Control was the show where the 436 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: popcorn came down. Okay, I had a remote Control. That 437 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: was a cool show because they ate popcorn and I 438 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 1: like food. 439 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 2: Okay, wait, I need to I need to see this. Oh, 440 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 2: adamah Sailor was on Remote Control. Cool, Jay, I remember 441 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 2: all of this. Oh, so these do what year was this? 442 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 2: Because maybe I. 443 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: Nteen eighty nine, nineteen I was one year old. Yeah, 444 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: all right, what else you got going for us Todaylauren? 445 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: What do you have for breakfast? 446 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 2: Half of a macro bar and a coffee. 447 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,479 Speaker 1: See once again, the bars strip it all away, swush 448 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: it back up together. I know. I think I'm gonna 449 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: cook twenty steaks and we're just gonna walk around with steaks. 450 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: That's what we're gonna do, all right, next episode, we're 451 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: coming in here with cold steak. What the fork? WTF? 452 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 2: Oh that's my one of my favorite segments. 453 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, these are crazy food stories. 454 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 2: Well this is not really a food story. But okay, 455 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 2: So California speeding ticket prices will be based on your income. 456 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: What. Yeah, that's equity, Lauren, that's equity. 457 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so if you but is there like a limit, Like, 458 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 2: is there a cap on it? 459 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,479 Speaker 1: So? I don't know what I read. When I read this, 460 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: I saw it was gonna be like you could have 461 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: a speeding ticket up to five thousand dollars based on 462 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,239 Speaker 1: your income. So if you're one hundred million dollars. 463 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, five thousand dollars. 464 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: This is This is classic Califor. There's absolutely They say 465 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: it's in the name of equity, but there's nothing equitable 466 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: about it. If you're you're punishing somebody for being successful. 467 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 2: Okay, So say you are an individual who you know 468 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 2: is on food stamps, et cetera. Like maybe I don't know, 469 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 2: not even working, who knows. So then you get a 470 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 2: speeding ticket and like. 471 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: What do you pay? 472 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 2: Like nothing box? Maybe that is so wrong. 473 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: But then if you're rich and you get the speeding ticket, 474 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: you pay five million dollars. Five million dollars for speeding. 475 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 2: That would be horrible. That's really that's really weird. 476 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: Well, I think I don't like that. Look, you know, 477 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: I would say that if anything Like cities, I think 478 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: if somebody gets a speeding ticket and they don't have 479 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: the money to pay it, they need to communicate with 480 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: the cities and they need to say, look, I really 481 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 1: don't have the money, work out some sort of a 482 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: reasonable payment plan, because there needs to be some sort 483 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: of punishment. I think even getting a speeding ticket if 484 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: you are rich, like the punishment of having to go 485 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: in and like send it in and what have you. 486 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: Maybe there's a knock on your record and you got 487 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: to pay more money on your car insurance. But like 488 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: rules are rule, everybody's subject to the same rules, right. 489 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 2: So I guess it's a more of a pilot program, 490 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 2: and one has rolled out in San Francisco. 491 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: Of course already the land is crazy. But what happens 492 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 1: in San Francisco happens everywhere. It's the epicenter, it's the 493 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: test case, it's the beta. 494 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Several state level proposals have been made to 495 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 2: adjust traffic finds based on income to make them fairer. 496 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 2: For example, Governor Newsom has supported plans to reduce citation 497 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 2: costs for lower income drivers. 498 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 1: And once again I will say this, I do think like, 499 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: if I think that there should be the scale should 500 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: still be the same. It shouldn't be a sliding scale 501 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: based on income. I think there should be programs available 502 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: for lower income individuals or they have to take a. 503 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 2: Class or something. 504 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, well, I mean have you ever taken 505 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: a speeding class and been like, okay, I had. 506 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 2: To take some I forget I had to take something. 507 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: You probably did have to take something like nos caption. 508 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 2: No, I remember I got a ticket and I had 509 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 2: to do a class. 510 00:21:58,440 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: Don't you think it's funny that you get a speeding 511 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: ticket now for holding your phone in your hand, but 512 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: not holding a huge double double from in and out? 513 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: What do you think about eating eating ticket for holding 514 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: your phone? Do you think about eating and driving. I 515 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: think eating and driving is more dangerous. 516 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 2: Than it's pretty dangerous. 517 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 1: If you ever tried to, like eat a big sandwich 518 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: while you're driving. 519 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 2: Well, yeah I have, actually one, it gets everywhere. And two, 520 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,479 Speaker 2: I mean you're not really paying attention. You're trying to, like, 521 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 2: you know, for me at least if it isn't in 522 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 2: and out burger. I'm like trying to like squeeze the 523 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 2: spread on them on the burger. 524 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: Squeeze the spreads out of euphemism, you squeeze the spread. 525 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: I feel like we're gonna this is a gambling show 526 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: now grudooking. So Lauren doesn't let anybody eat in the car, 527 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 1: in her car, in my car like you. 528 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 2: Can have there, No, they can have They can have 529 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 2: snacks that aren't going to make a big mess. 530 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: Ultra processed. 531 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 2: Probably. 532 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:49,959 Speaker 1: This is why we have steak. This is why all 533 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: we're going after this show. I'm gonna let the kids 534 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: eat a steak and chicken, and they're gonna be walking 535 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 1: around with a roasted chicken because that's easy to clean up. 536 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: They're gonna be ripped, and I always have to suffer 537 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: the consequences because the kids aren't allowed to eat in 538 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: the car. I'm not allowed to eat in a car. 539 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 2: That is not First of all, if you go into 540 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 2: my car right now, there's definitely evidence of people eating in. 541 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 1: The car because I take the car sometimes. It's a minivan. 542 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 1: I love it, Little Vanny. I love the minivan. You know, 543 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: we were not a minivan family. When we got married. 544 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: Lorne was like, I never I would have a minivan, 545 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: and I just I was. 546 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 2: We wanted the minivan even when we only had like 547 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 2: two kids. You like, were so into it, and I 548 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 2: was like, I don't need. I had my dream car 549 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,959 Speaker 2: when we had two kids. Then I got pregnant with 550 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 2: a third and I had. 551 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: To quickly it happened. 552 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, then I had to quickly change out to an suv, 553 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 2: which was fine. I still liked it was still cute. 554 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 2: Then we had the fourth. 555 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: Because the doors don't open, which I will say, our 556 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: kids are so rambunctious with doors. Every time I go over, the. 557 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 2: Little boys they are they just oh my gosh, they 558 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 2: just throw those doors open so quickly. But anyway, the 559 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 2: sliding doors are a game changer. 560 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: Sliding doors, the built in vacuum cleaner, the TVSD. 561 00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 2: We have to give her up soon. 562 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, we do. But I'm a minivan guy because it 563 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 1: was funny when the guy took us on a like 564 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 1: a spin what a little test drive, and I was like, 565 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I said, look at you behind this minivan. 566 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: You look like it's the hottest soccer mama. Look great 567 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: when kids don't even play soccer. 568 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, they play baseball. 569 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, so minivans go for it. I think that 570 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: there's been much movement in the minivan technology, so I'm 571 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: excited about that. I think it's time to sharpen our skill. 572 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna give you guys a quick cooking tip 573 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: here that you can take away. That is the essence 574 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: of the wire rack. Okay, I have been one to 575 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: make this mistake in our cooking videos where I will 576 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: cook the steak and I talk about resting the steak, 577 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: which is one of the most important parts of cooking 578 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: the steak, because if you cut into it too quickly, 579 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 1: the molecules are still moving around at the speed of 580 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: what the heat was. Right, They're trying to reach the 581 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: temperature of the heat, so they're moving very quickly the 582 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: heat in the oven or the cooking vessel, and so 583 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: when you cut into it. It pushes a lot of 584 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: that moisture out of the meat. You let it rest, 585 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: you let all those flavors come together, you let the 586 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,959 Speaker 1: protein set within the meat. But if you're leaving it 587 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: on a plate, it's still going to run a little bit. 588 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: And if you let the hot steaks sit on the plate, 589 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: what's happening on the underside of the steak is that 590 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: that steam it's actually steaming the underside of the steak 591 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: and taking it from beautiful and browned to kind of soggy. 592 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 1: So you get that nice caramelization or that mallur'd browning 593 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 1: on top of the steak, but the underside is a 594 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: little bit soggy and it sits in its own juice. 595 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: So we do this in the commercial food setting. In 596 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: the restaurants all the time is we have wire racks, 597 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 1: and you always rest your meat on the wire rack 598 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 1: because then it's there's airflow underneath it. It's not gonna steam 599 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: that heat and that moisture is going to kind of 600 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: evaporate quicker. But we can do this in the home 601 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: setting as well. After you cook your steaks, just go 602 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: buy a little wire rack from Ikia anywhere there like 603 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 1: one or two dollars or even improvise one and just 604 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: put it on a plate and then rest your meat 605 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 1: on those wire racks. Number one, it's gonna cool quicker. 606 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: And by cool, I don't mean cool so that you 607 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: can't eat it. I mean like it's gonna let the 608 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: meat settle quicker. And it's also going to allow for 609 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: a crispy or exterior on the bottom side of the 610 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: steak as well. So resting your meat, do it on 611 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: a wire rack. That's the way to go. That's my practical, 612 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: kind of valuable takeaway for this audience today on my 613 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: Sharpen your Skill segment. 614 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 2: I love that, and I'm so surprised we have not 615 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 2: been doing that in our videos. 616 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: I know, well, there's a lot to cover in the 617 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: videos because we're really targeting people who just want to 618 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: get more comfortable with their cooking and developed that muscle memory. 619 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: So I'm not trying to hit them with the overly 620 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:27,719 Speaker 1: intellectual stuff. 621 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 2: M all right, moving on. 622 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: Eighty six It eighty six it get rid of it? Yeah, 623 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,239 Speaker 1: what do we want? What do you want to get 624 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: rid of? 625 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 2: So hear me out, guys. I love pumpkin I do. 626 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 2: I think it's great, but Oh my gosh, what the heck? 627 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 2: It's pumpkin is in everything. We just saw a cup 628 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 2: of noodles, A pumpkin cup of noodle. 629 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, flavor, pumpkin ramen. What Yeah? 630 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 2: What the heck? 631 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: I don't like pumpkins, so I'm not on the same. 632 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 2: Okay, but I do love I make a good pumpkin pie. 633 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I hate pumpkin pie. Oh my gosh. I 634 00:26:58,840 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 1: don't like pie. Period. 635 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 2: He doesn't like pie. I love pie. 636 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: There's not a single pie like if you all I made. 637 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 2: You a pie and that was fabulous, you wouldn't like it. 638 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: Let me say this, though, I don't not like pie 639 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: because of flavor. It's because of form and function, right. 640 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 2: Why because it's like crumbly or like. 641 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 1: It falls apart? So like I want to eat something 642 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: and I want to even bite. It's it's pizza, right, 643 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: I want an even bite on every single slice. I 644 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: want to be able to eat the crust and the filling, 645 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: top and bottom. But with a pie, with a pie, 646 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: it all falls apart. That's not true. 647 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 2: How are you cutting this pie? 648 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: An apple pie pie? Yes? Because the apple pieces fall 649 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: so fine. The pumpkin pie, the pumpkin pie holds up fine, 650 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: but it's just like gelatinous pumpkin with some I cannot 651 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,199 Speaker 1: believe you hate my pumpkin pie. I don't hate your 652 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: pumpkin pie. I don't like cheesecake either. They call it 653 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: a cake, but it's not. It's not a cake. 654 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 2: Cheesecake is definitely not a cake. 655 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's called cheesecake. I'm not making up the 656 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: name here, but you understand it's form and function. Right, So, 657 00:27:58,480 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: strawberry rhubarb pie. 658 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 2: Wait, but you like the blueberry cheesecake ice cream? 659 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: That's ice cream. 660 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 2: There's chunks of cheesecake in it. 661 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because that just adds flair. That's a garnish, 662 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: that's studded garnish. 663 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 2: Well, anyway, my eighty six is pumpkin in everything. 664 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: I think. I think the cup of noodle really threw 665 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 1: me for a loop. I made a pumpkin cheesecake back 666 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: when I was running a restaurant like ten or twenty 667 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: years ago, and it was really popular. That was pretty good. 668 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 2: Of course, his is really good, and he'll eat his pumpkin. Actually, 669 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 2: pumpkin and cheesecake the two things he hates. 670 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: Let me rephrase that. It sold really well. So I 671 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: was happy about it. I never ate it disgusting. It 672 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: was disgusting. Do you like pumpkin pie message es? Let 673 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: us know. I hope I didn't offend anybody. So my 674 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: eighty six is it today? Well, I'll tell you where 675 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: I came with the came up with my eighty six 676 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: it So I was reading a story about how Chick 677 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: fil A is expanding into organ. I think they're opening 678 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: six or eight locations in Organ. And Chick fil A 679 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: has penetrated California pretty hard as well. Well, that got 680 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: weird penetrated and it there's Chick fil As everywhere, and 681 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: look of all the brands like Chick fil A solid. 682 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: I love their customer service. I think their chicken is okay. 683 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: I don't think it's great. I don't like it. When 684 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: you order the original Chick fil A sandwich, you get 685 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: like one or two pickles on there, and once again 686 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: back to the evenness of the bite, you bite it 687 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: and you get the pickle in there, and you're looking 688 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: for the pickle on the next bite and the picks 689 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: on the other side. Two pickles in there. It's very weird. Yeah, 690 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: they should they. 691 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 2: Should at least like like at least. 692 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: Six generally speaking with the mechanics of making sandwiches, like 693 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: if every single bite isn't even, then you've failed at 694 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: making sandwiches. 695 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 2: Yes, I agree, because then one end you're getting all bread, 696 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 2: the middle is like filled with all the stuff, and 697 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 2: then the other end is bread. 698 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: One of the first tips I give to young cooks 699 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: is that if you're making a sandwich end to end, 700 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: end to end on the bread, you always got to 701 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: have sauce end to end. But that's I digress on 702 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: that one. So Chick fil A expanding everywhere, and that 703 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: brings me back to the Chicken Wars, and that was 704 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: like four or five years ago. You had the Popeye's 705 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: chicken sandwich, you had the McDonald's sucking sandwiche, Wendy's a 706 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: spicy crispy chicken sandwich. You had all these chicken sandwich 707 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: and then you had all the hot chicken. See. I 708 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: can't get so excited here. I get more excited about 709 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: these podcasts and those of you out there listening. I 710 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: was very apprehensive about the Chicken Wars because I started 711 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: to see these hot chicken sandwich concepts pop up all 712 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: over the place, and because it was a craze, and 713 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: it was as most crazes are, they're like blips in time. 714 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: I knew that their sales were going to be depressed 715 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: over two or three months. So you open up and you're, 716 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: you know, you're selling chicken sandwiches crazy, and then suddenly 717 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: you're going under. Actually, what was that, Mike? Was it 718 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: Mike's Dave's Hot Chicken? They just sold. They just sold out. 719 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: I think they sold for like a billion dollars too. 720 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 2: Like Arby, So this is a good thing. They didn't close. 721 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't see the economics of the deal, 722 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: but I would imagine that they that there. It wasn't 723 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: a capital raise. I think was a sale. That's never 724 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: like a great sign unless you're real young and emerging 725 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: brand who's just looking to grow further and faster. Yeah, 726 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: chicken sandwich wars. I just think that the chicken sandwich 727 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: craze is becoming a little bit overdone. I'd like to 728 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: see less of the hot chicken sandwiches because I think 729 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: people do them wrong. 730 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 2: I don't think do you want to see a cold 731 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 2: chicken sandwich? 732 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: I just want to see it well chicken salad. I 733 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: would love to see a chicken salad sandwich. 734 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 2: Warch chicken salad sandwich. 735 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: Get a good There used to be the concept here 736 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: in la called like chicken salad chick that was that 737 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: was a chain and it was like chicken salad, chicken 738 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: salad sandwiches. Jones on Third does good chicken salad. Yeah, 739 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: I would love it. Maybe we open up a chicken 740 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: salad sandwich concept. 741 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 2: Let's think about it. 742 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: See this is how these When we sold our sold slappish, 743 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: our last restaurant group, Lauren goes Or. I said to Lauren, 744 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: we both agreed, we're never going to open another restaurant ever. 745 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 2: We're like, we are out. Oh my gosh, it's been 746 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 2: ten years of crazy. 747 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: Yes. I was six foot eight at the beginning, like 748 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: four five four, moving on to five to three. But 749 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: I uh, forty eight hours later we signed a lease 750 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: on a new restaurant. We did. And I'll also say 751 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: in there we had two birds chicken. We had a 752 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: chicken sandwich concept and. 753 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 2: It was a good chicken sandwich. 754 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: We did not do the hot fried chicken sandwich that. 755 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: We just did a good old home style fried chicken sandwich. 756 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: It was done right. It was over the top, double 757 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: hander less than eight dollars a sandwich. 758 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 2: It was delicious. Bob's your own, and you had a 759 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 2: grilled chicken option. It was great you did have a. 760 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: Grilled chicken option. They're all fried chicken sandwiches and they 761 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: fry and junk and there's too much breading on there. 762 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 2: Oh wow. 763 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: All right, so our quick tip and our sizzle it 764 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: are you know, should be? Why are you laughing? Why 765 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: are you laughing at me? 766 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 2: I don't know, you're funny. 767 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: Okay, I am pretty hilarious to her and the kids. 768 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk chicken sandwiches. Who We covered a lot there. 769 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 2: We went through so many things, chicken sandwiches, protein powders, 770 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 2: speeding tickets, We've done it all. 771 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: That's because people are getting so many speeding tickets because 772 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: of the protein powders. 773 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, because they're rushing home. 774 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: Pooh, you keep saying that word late you say you 775 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: slow down before you say it, and then you come 776 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: at it so hard. It's very aggressive. Nope, don't do 777 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: it again. Don't need to be Mike. Okay, okay, okay, 778 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: you don't need to be Mike. But we're gonna lose 779 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: audience in that one all right, we want to know 780 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: what your eighty six HiT's are. Obviously, we also want 781 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: to understand what you want to see. If you've seen 782 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: any cool WTF stories, what the fork send those? Over Look, 783 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: this is You're part of the show here, everybody, so 784 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: we want we want your feedback. You can find me 785 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: on X at Chef Groul. 786 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 2: And you can find me at Lauren Gruel. La Oh, 787 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 2: Lauren Lauren, she's French now Laura on Instagram Lauren Underscore 788 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 2: Rule and. 789 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: I'm on Instagram at Andrew Groul, so the real name 790 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: on Instagram and Chef Gruel. I play the character on X. 791 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: And that's another episode of American Gravy in the books. 792 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: We can't wait to put up the next one. Yeah, 793 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: all right, guys. 794 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 2: Bye,