Speaker 1: Hey, fam I'm Jada Pinkett Smith and this is the
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Speaker 1: to you? He said, dudes look at the mind of
Speaker 1: a skinny girl before they look at their body. Today
Speaker 1: we are talking about body confessions. Sometimes you do hit
Speaker 1: that Instagram photo and you're like, damn, she got such
Speaker 1: a beautiful body. Then you think to yourself, what if
Speaker 1: I had that body? And then you're like, but I
Speaker 1: don't a lot of people have been asking about why
Speaker 1: I've been wearing turbans. Well, I haven't talked about it.
Speaker 1: It's not easy to talk about but I am going
Speaker 1: to talk about it. I just talk to something, your
Speaker 1: broashop your that's fine, whatever you need to do, it's fine, Okay,
Speaker 1: are you might? Okay again, let's do this and clear's up.
Speaker 1: So we are here at the Red Table, and I
Speaker 1: thought we could talk about the things about ourselves that
Speaker 1: we might not like that we have to accept. I
Speaker 1: don't care how beautiful of a woman. We all have
Speaker 1: stuff that we something like we're unhappy exactly. For older women,
Speaker 1: youth is everything. So everything that you see on television,
Speaker 1: everything that you see everywhere, is everything about staying young,
Speaker 1: and so it really becomes challenging as you become older
Speaker 1: to try to not get obsessed with we're trying to
Speaker 1: stay because sometimes I look at myself in the mirror
Speaker 1: and I don't like I say, the worst part of
Speaker 1: my body for me are my legs, you know, my thighs.
Speaker 1: Like I'm thin and people think it's ridiculous, but I
Speaker 1: have mad cellulite and I hate it. So I hate
Speaker 1: my legs and all that stuff about well muscle will
Speaker 1: take it over. That's a bunch of crap. And I
Speaker 1: love that you've gain weight. I love so that, Rodney,
Speaker 1: But I put on some extra pounds. But in my
Speaker 1: mind I feel fat. I know that that's not true.
Speaker 1: I know I'm not fat, but I certainly am bigger
Speaker 1: than I used to be. But that's not a problem.
Speaker 1: But it feels like myself a certain way. The rest
Speaker 1: of me looks pretty good. Look, let me tell you
Speaker 1: give me putting me to shame on the beach, So
Speaker 1: give me that. Yeah, straight up, honestly, what's one part
Speaker 1: of your that you disliked the most. Well, I'm going
Speaker 1: to tell you what. I've been getting a lot of
Speaker 1: questions about why I've been wearing this turk bent. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: I've been having issues with hair loss. And I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you it was terrifying when it when it first started.
Speaker 1: You know, it's in the shower one day and then
Speaker 1: just handfuls of hair just in my hands and I
Speaker 1: was just like, oh my god, am I going bald.
Speaker 1: It was one of those times in my life where
Speaker 1: I was literally shaking with fear. That's a really scary experience. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why I cut my hair and why I continue
Speaker 1: to cut, just to keep it. Like I just had
Speaker 1: like another like okay, I think we're gonna do another
Speaker 1: layer of cutting, you know, And my hair has been
Speaker 1: a big part of me. Taking care of my hair
Speaker 1: has been a beautiful ritual, you know, and having the
Speaker 1: choice to have hair or not, and then one day
Speaker 1: to be like, oh my god, I might not have
Speaker 1: that children anymore because you had a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of hair, really thick, beautiful hair, to the point
Speaker 1: that people always thought I had weaves. They're like, that's
Speaker 1: not her hair. I'm like, yes, it is right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I've gotten every kind of test there is to have. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So they don't really they don't know why. People said stress.
Speaker 1: People say, oh you got you have you know you
Speaker 1: do have alopecia. Even in my terror and even in
Speaker 1: my fear and in the moment of just going oh
Speaker 1: my God, like why are you so terrified that you
Speaker 1: might lose your hair? Right? I really had to put
Speaker 1: it on a spiritual perspective of like, the Higher Power
Speaker 1: takes so much from people. People are out here who
Speaker 1: have cancer, people who have sick children. I watch the
Speaker 1: Higher Power take things every day, and by golly, if
Speaker 1: the Higher Power wants to take your hair, that's it. God,
Speaker 1: you want my hair. When I looked at it from
Speaker 1: that perspective, it it really didn't settle me. Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: because if when I had to think about, well, what
Speaker 1: else would you what else would you lose? What else
Speaker 1: would you put on the table for God to take
Speaker 1: take the hair? You know, take it. When my hair
Speaker 1: is wrapped, I feel like a queen. And I love
Speaker 1: having a wrapped head. You can teach me a thing
Speaker 1: or two, because I don't know how to rap determine
Speaker 1: at all, this is one of my favorites. Then not
Speaker 1: it looks so tight. Did you get a headache? You
Speaker 1: have to be really careful not to do it too tight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love that right front, and I always look so
Speaker 1: cheek to me. I really love it. And then you
Speaker 1: can do this one. Yeah, this is the one I
Speaker 1: usually know how to do. I just like sometimes you
Speaker 1: just have it hang so I can pretend like I
Speaker 1: have hair, my pretend hair that looks amazing with locks.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh yeah, now that's cute because it's like
Speaker 1: a little butt. Yeah, so there you go. That's okay,
Speaker 1: give a little these three different ways. If you have
Speaker 1: the bad hair, right, I love it too. Coming up?
Speaker 1: Do you always get on me from my underarm hair?
Speaker 1: Gammy always like want me to trim it for you.
Speaker 1: We could braid it. No, it's getting a lot. It's
Speaker 1: getting a lot. Hey, Jen, can we get glammed down
Speaker 1: for gam last looks? Come in your way. We're rolling,
Speaker 1: we're fitting. I in my own life struggled with curve
Speaker 1: your women and curve your girls have always gotten more
Speaker 1: attention from the boys that I've liked and have ended
Speaker 1: up dating the boys that I've liked and that constantly
Speaker 1: happening in me, you know, being their friend, but not
Speaker 1: really like seeing them look at me in a certain way.
Speaker 1: They always see you as like the little sister exactly.
Speaker 1: They did the same to me, And then you start
Speaker 1: to wonder like, dang, like am I just not desirable?
Speaker 1: Like is my body just like not what society like?
Speaker 1: So it does just get really hard for for a
Speaker 1: lot of girls. Yeah, I said will all the time.
Speaker 1: She's beautiful, like all the time. But you always get
Speaker 1: on me from my under arm hair. Yeah, yah, me
Speaker 1: always like what me to trim it for you? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I just think that you can trim me because at
Speaker 1: this point, No, it's getting too much. We could braid it. No,
Speaker 1: it's getting a lot. It's getting a lot. Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: getting a lot. When you put pictures and your stuff
Speaker 1: on your Instagram with your arm hair, how do people feel?
Speaker 1: I used to look through my comments and be like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, everyone's saying I'm a lesbian, And now
Speaker 1: you've learned to just ignore that. So why did you
Speaker 1: make the decision and not to shave? Yeah? I mean
Speaker 1: I didn't really make the decision not to shave. I
Speaker 1: just kind of didn't shave. It takes too much time.
Speaker 1: I just want to get in the shower and then
Speaker 1: get out of the shower. I get it. It was
Speaker 1: so the upkeep is just see you gave me over here,
Speaker 1: and I'm like squinted up my face and not understanding
Speaker 1: at all any of this. I'm gonna be like my
Speaker 1: ancestors and just do what I need to do. And
Speaker 1: my whole thing is she had the choice. It's her body.
Speaker 1: It is. But you know, there's some people that are
Speaker 1: going to be accepting open and some people that are honestly,
Speaker 1: and at the end of the day, you have to
Speaker 1: be comfortable in your own skin. That's why I always
Speaker 1: tell people. I'm like, we all experience self hatred to
Speaker 1: a certain degree. And I told Willow I've had every
Speaker 1: shape of body there is to have, from being super
Speaker 1: muscular to being thin but curby thin and straight up
Speaker 1: and down, like I've done it all, you know, because
Speaker 1: she asked me, she was like, mom, will you work
Speaker 1: me out? And you're an amazing trainer, Thank you, babe,
Speaker 1: And she was getting her little booty. Yeah, and I'm
Speaker 1: still doing it. I remember you having a conversation with
Speaker 1: Dad that I think really stuck with you in regards
Speaker 1: to your body. What did what did he spoke was
Speaker 1: that conversation? What did he say to you? He was
Speaker 1: just saying that he was so happy that, you know,
Speaker 1: I wasn't curvy because guys look at girls, guys objectify
Speaker 1: women so much. So he was glad that you didn't
Speaker 1: have a curverybody because he was like, guys will look
Speaker 1: at your brain more if you're not curvyer. And that
Speaker 1: kind of just solidified all of my experiences. But you know,
Speaker 1: it's just so funny that you would be dest because
Speaker 1: there's so many people who would die for that body,
Speaker 1: for that body. But you know, I had the same struggle.
Speaker 1: We yeah, because weird little people. Little people. And when
Speaker 1: we were both of us, when we were really young,
Speaker 1: we were like streaming. Yeah, when I was young with
Speaker 1: this thing about wearing two pairs of socks. Did you
Speaker 1: go through that so your legs legs look Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was that was the stupid Yeah we did. We were
Speaker 1: two pairs of those thick socks. Well, I used to
Speaker 1: hate wearing shorts. I used to think my legs were
Speaker 1: so skinny. I remember you going, Jayda, you have beautiful legs.
Speaker 1: And then I seem. I hear myself telling will are
Speaker 1: the same thing. Will you've got beautiful legs? I hear
Speaker 1: you know, my friends that are curvy, they are telling
Speaker 1: me it's so great that you can just like wear
Speaker 1: some shorts on the tank top and not feel like
Speaker 1: overexposed or feel like people are looking at you differently,
Speaker 1: or feel like people are looking at you in a
Speaker 1: sexual man exactly even more than they usually would. You know,
Speaker 1: everyone wants what they don't have. Yeah, we want what
Speaker 1: we don't have. Absolutely that if that will ever change though,
Speaker 1: I really don't. I don't know if they has always
Speaker 1: been like that. Well, we've got some Facebook questions for
Speaker 1: my Facebook family. Everybody picked a question. No, no, no no,
Speaker 1: no no. Why are girls so mean about looks because
Speaker 1: they wish they had what the other person has or something?
Speaker 1: You know, and it's all about envy? Envy? Honestly, whenever
Speaker 1: another girl tells you something about your body or your looks,
Speaker 1: like she's really just talking to herself. I remember a
Speaker 1: girl telling me if you ain't have them light eyes,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't be Wow. Yeah damn. When that young lady
Speaker 1: said that to me, I was like, man, is she right?
Speaker 1: Because people only ever talk about my eyes. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: The next question, sexiest part of a woman's body, but
Speaker 1: the curve between the waist and the hip is Oh,
Speaker 1: it's the sexiest part. God, I think the whole body
Speaker 1: of a woman is just Yes, it's just gorgeous. I
Speaker 1: don't know if there's like one part. What was your question?
Speaker 1: Gam name three things you love about the way you look?
Speaker 1: Run it. I would start out with my hair, because
Speaker 1: my hair can be long, short, down, they're bald, any color,
Speaker 1: and I've worn it all those different ways. I like
Speaker 1: experimenting with my hair, with my hair color. Can other
Speaker 1: people add things? Yeah? I love your lips. You love
Speaker 1: my lips, Yeah, it's pretty lips. And I also love
Speaker 1: you have a really nice bottom. Yeah. I like your
Speaker 1: shape yeah yeah. And it's interesting they ask what are
Speaker 1: the three things that you can say you love about yourself?
Speaker 1: Because it was much easier for me to name three
Speaker 1: things that I didn't like like about myself. Yeah that's sad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because they came to mind like that. I had to
Speaker 1: really really think to think about what do I love?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Maybe we should do that
Speaker 1: as a ritual. You wake up in the morning and
Speaker 1: then you give yourself three things that you love about yourself.
Speaker 1: You look in the mirror first thing to start your
Speaker 1: day off, and you know, do it for a week
Speaker 1: and see if there's a change, you know, like oh,
Speaker 1: I love that mold extra pounds, or you know, like
Speaker 1: I love this car on your forehead. I remember how
Speaker 1: it happened, and I almost passed out when it did.
Speaker 1: When Willow was about three or four years old, she
Speaker 1: was going off to karate and she ran into the
Speaker 1: bedroom to give will a hug, and then she cracked
Speaker 1: her head and I remember literally fall into my knees.
Speaker 1: You can't and will was like, Jada, She's like I
Speaker 1: need for you. Come on, we gotta take it to
Speaker 1: the hospital. And I remember having Willow in the back
Speaker 1: seat with me and she looked up at me and
Speaker 1: she said, Mommy, can you fix me. I'll never forget that.
Speaker 1: And I was just like it was terrifying, Like even
Speaker 1: to this day to think about it, it was terrifying.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that scar is h has history history. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and why don't you can't deny there's too much emphasis
Speaker 1: put on looks. But you've grown into that, Willow, because
Speaker 1: when you were little, you didn't feel that way. We
Speaker 1: were constantly. It's particularly about your hair. You really went
Speaker 1: where you're like, welcome, Jaden, Yeah, Jazz, that hair and
Speaker 1: I was always you wanted and you wanted your hair
Speaker 1: to be long, you wanted you you have beautiful hair,
Speaker 1: beautiful hair. It just wasn't like my hair. But you
Speaker 1: went through such a time and embracing that. That was.
Speaker 1: That was ru Yeah, that was and it's painful. Are
Speaker 1: you learning to embrace your cute little body? I mean slowly,
Speaker 1: but surely. It's a process. But more so I'm learning
Speaker 1: to just appreciate myself as a whole. That's a process.
Speaker 1: It's a constant process. It's a constant process. Wow, this
Speaker 1: was a really beautiful conversation. Well, facebookers, our Facebook family.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for being here with us and love yours all
Speaker 1: that you are and all that you are not can
Speaker 1: we're out there? You go? Thank you, Hi, thank you? Okay,
Speaker 1: thank you sweet everybody. Yes, for seventeen years we have
Speaker 1: not really spoken. You don't even know what you meant
Speaker 1: about we're gonna walk on over here to the Red Table.
Speaker 1: You were walking up and there was that moment of like,
Speaker 1: do I hate hugger? There's some girlfriends who wants to
Speaker 1: squash you to watch you be miserable. I had to
Speaker 1: just apologize and just thinking to myself, Damn, Jada, that
Speaker 1: was petiot. I want to try to do something on mine.
Speaker 1: When we try to do a turpin on me, Nick
Speaker 1: material this is like a soft cotton. You don't want
Speaker 1: any material that's gonna pull your hair exactly. Oh what
Speaker 1: mc light new stuff that's a fast wrap it is.
Speaker 1: I just wrapped her head. I did. I showed them
Speaker 1: how many different little raps out and it kind of
Speaker 1: takes the pressure off. I'm so happy I showed Willow
Speaker 1: how to wrap her hair. Today she looks so great
Speaker 1: and I hope it makes her feel like a queen
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