WEBVTT - Your Voice is a Superpower with Samara Bey

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Freddie Rodriguez.

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<v Speaker 3>And Wilmer about the rama. Welcome to those amigos. We're back.

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<v Speaker 1>We're back episode two.

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<v Speaker 2>Baby.

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<v Speaker 4>That's how fascinating she are it required a second episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Samara, she's a coach.

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<v Speaker 3>She's a Coacha is a very very giftedll coach, someone

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<v Speaker 3>that really helped me in the earlier years actually mid

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<v Speaker 3>years of my career. And we were talking about, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>the way you help leaders and actors convey story uh.

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<v Speaker 3>And in the same subject, the simplistic version that I

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<v Speaker 3>tell myself is the more prepared I am, the less

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<v Speaker 3>pit stops I have to make in order to make

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<v Speaker 3>my point.

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<v Speaker 2>The pit stop is the like.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, these are the pit stops that you're like you

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<v Speaker 3>because you're trying to piece it together. Now, not all

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<v Speaker 3>conversations require you to stop your arms.

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<v Speaker 2>Like right, like you're talking to people. It is what

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<v Speaker 2>it is.

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<v Speaker 3>But what I found myself and I'm curious to see

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<v Speaker 3>you know, for you as a storyteller, as a you're

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<v Speaker 3>one of the smartest people I've ever met in my life.

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<v Speaker 3>You're also like you as one of the best spoken

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<v Speaker 3>people I've ever talked, you know, and you know and

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<v Speaker 3>also You're one of the most brilliant actors I've ever

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<v Speaker 3>seen in my life. This guy has been able to

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<v Speaker 3>to uh, you know, to really and I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 3>really sound smart there you see that, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm getting.

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<v Speaker 3>What I'm saying is like the idea that you have

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<v Speaker 3>to portray these characters that for the most part, you're

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<v Speaker 3>leading the story, you're driving us forward. And now I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to say anything, but you're gonna play a

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<v Speaker 3>different ethnicity guy that's absolutely so far removed from who

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<v Speaker 3>you are, that that's going to be the next role

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna take.

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<v Speaker 2>The people are going to be blown away by.

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<v Speaker 3>And you are going to have to learn the accent

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<v Speaker 3>and in the actual language, yes, to.

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<v Speaker 2>A place in the world that you've probably never been.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe you haven't, you know, through the years, but like,

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<v Speaker 3>but you've never lived there to understand why those dialects

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<v Speaker 3>and why then you know where they come from. So

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<v Speaker 3>so for me, the thing that I realized the more

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<v Speaker 3>I understood, I used to say, like, and I'm so

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<v Speaker 3>much more back in the day when I was trying

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<v Speaker 3>to fit into so many smart conversations because I.

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<v Speaker 2>Knew I had an opinion about the things that was

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<v Speaker 2>being said.

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<v Speaker 3>But I've never communicated with those rooms before, so I

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<v Speaker 3>thought I had to really take my time in putting

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<v Speaker 3>these sentences together. So like, for example, you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>had to search my words more often than I could.

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<v Speaker 2>If I was just kind of flowing.

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<v Speaker 3>The more confidence I became in what I exposed myself to.

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<v Speaker 2>The Easter was to take those things out right. The

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<v Speaker 2>other thing is like you're.

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<v Speaker 3>Telling you talk about in your subject, but I look

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<v Speaker 3>for you, Freddie, what has it? Does this relate to you?

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<v Speaker 3>Does it trigger any emotion or memory or anything?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm from Chicago, right, And my first movie I

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<v Speaker 4>had to have a dialot coach because my Chicago accent,

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<v Speaker 4>which you can probably still hear, I'm told still there.

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<v Speaker 4>So I was nineteen years old. I was on the

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<v Speaker 4>set of a pretty big movie and it was my

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<v Speaker 4>first movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Was the movie.

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<v Speaker 4>It was called The Walk in the Clouds and it

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<v Speaker 4>took place in the nineteen thirties.

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<v Speaker 1>And here I was just like Chicago urban like street kid.

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<v Speaker 4>All of a sudden thrust it into this movie with

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<v Speaker 4>like Anthony Quinn and Caanu Reeves and gian Carlo Janini,

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<v Speaker 4>and I had to sound like a kid who went

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<v Speaker 4>to Stanford in the nineteen thirties, and it was it

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<v Speaker 4>was incredibly difficult, and had I had a dialog coach

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<v Speaker 4>for like three months while I was on that side,

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<v Speaker 4>who was who's doing everything? You just said, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I do a take and they would come and whisper

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<v Speaker 4>in my ear and her eye was. It was like

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<v Speaker 4>the first time I was ever in front of cameras

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<v Speaker 4>like that or around big actors like that. So it

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<v Speaker 4>was really I want to say it was difficult, but

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<v Speaker 4>it was a lot to process as like a nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>year old kid. And so I've had dialogue coaches. That

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't the first time. You know, my action has always

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<v Speaker 4>been really difficult to overcome.

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<v Speaker 2>I never knew that about you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I mean you can hear it right, like

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<v Speaker 4>you know, this is sort of how I sound.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I'm not here diagnosed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah right.

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<v Speaker 4>And so when we was saying I I haven't announced

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<v Speaker 4>it yet, but I'm about to play someone who's who's

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<v Speaker 4>of German descent, and I was like me and they

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<v Speaker 4>were like, yeah you And I was like, okay, give

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<v Speaker 4>me a dialart coach.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Supposed to be starting with one.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't quite know who it is someone who's sitting

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<v Speaker 4>across from me right now, and so it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna be nuts. Nudge.

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<v Speaker 5>Did you want Lucille Ball?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you teach with the Lucille Ball accent?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>So so it's I've been struggling with it for a

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<v Speaker 4>long time too. I mean I've gone into rooms. I

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<v Speaker 4>remember in the nineties, I would audition and they would say,

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<v Speaker 4>he sounds a little too urban, you know, man, I

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<v Speaker 4>I had read for something, you know, geez, like like

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<v Speaker 4>eight years ago and then and the guy was from

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<v Speaker 4>Chicago and they were like, oh, he just sounded too urban.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, what do you mean from Chicago?

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<v Speaker 4>I sounded like, oh, I sounded And so my accent

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<v Speaker 4>has always been something that's been a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Of a thorn on my side throughout my career as well.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I find that a lot of the work I

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<v Speaker 5>do with people, whether it's in the hull onllwoold realm

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<v Speaker 5>or in business, is often unpacking some of those early

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<v Speaker 5>comments or early you know, like judgments that were thrust

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<v Speaker 5>on us. Often it's like people go back to like

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<v Speaker 5>second grade, Oh really their parents there's you know, it's

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<v Speaker 5>like trauma attached to it. There is, and it's like

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<v Speaker 5>it's like subtle enough, like lowercase T trauma that you

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<v Speaker 5>kind of can go like, why am I not over it?

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<v Speaker 5>That's what it is. And then I give people permission

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<v Speaker 5>to be like, let's just honor that not only are

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<v Speaker 5>you not over it, because it's like real and it

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<v Speaker 5>wasn't being able to get processed. But now there's like

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<v Speaker 5>this added level of like self shame of why did

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<v Speaker 5>I let that get to me? Why did I let

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<v Speaker 5>that one guy in second grade who said that my

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<v Speaker 5>voice is annoying get to me? What's wrong with me?

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<v Speaker 5>And so many of us do that, and it's like

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<v Speaker 5>the spiral around our voice. And this is why I

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<v Speaker 5>wrote this book and I sold it in this like

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<v Speaker 5>crazy bidding war at the top of the pandemic because

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<v Speaker 5>I just feel like no one.

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<v Speaker 4>So there's a therapy aspect attached to what you do

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<v Speaker 4>as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, listen, I.

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<v Speaker 5>Mean said therap but here's how I here's how I

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<v Speaker 5>say it. There is inevitably an element of therapeutic as

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<v Speaker 5>to this, which means healing. You know. It's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>ultimately we're just like, oh god, my mom said that

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<v Speaker 5>to me, I really, like, you know, internalized it. I

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<v Speaker 5>forgot it came from that source and she has her

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<v Speaker 5>own stuff, and I just thought it was a truth

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<v Speaker 5>about me. Oh wait, do I need to keep that

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<v Speaker 5>story going? Is that helping me? Is it helping the

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<v Speaker 5>next generation? Is it helping my kid? Me continuing to

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<v Speaker 5>carry that burden of in this case, you know, like

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<v Speaker 5>my voice is annoying or whatever. Who's that helping? Is

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<v Speaker 5>that helping me? Like, like, do my best legacy work

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<v Speaker 5>in the world? If not, what can I like lovingly

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<v Speaker 5>do to release that?

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<v Speaker 4>So how do you how do you hand I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>that's not part of what you signed up for, right,

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<v Speaker 4>So how do you handle sort of you're coaching somebody,

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<v Speaker 4>all of a sudden.

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<v Speaker 2>They break down.

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<v Speaker 4>They're like in the second grade somebody you know, and

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<v Speaker 4>then all of a sudden that they go right, the

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<v Speaker 4>trauma was.

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<v Speaker 5>Released, Say, I love those moments, but I kind of

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<v Speaker 5>loved those, But.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you how do you handle that?

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<v Speaker 5>You were clearly like you know what they say, like

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<v Speaker 5>shamed dies in the light. It's like once they know it,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't need to do anything. Now we're like you

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<v Speaker 5>that's a thing. Hey, that's a thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I had to undo a bunch of stuff the

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<v Speaker 3>beginning because when I was, when I became an actor,

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<v Speaker 3>if you had an accident in school, you were seen

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<v Speaker 3>as inferior, as uneducated. If you had an accent, you

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<v Speaker 3>were uneducated, even though I was a straighted student, because

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<v Speaker 3>in Venezuela.

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<v Speaker 2>There was two years ahead, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>When I got here, I had traded to and I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't even have to speak English to me, but thought

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<v Speaker 3>I was cheating. I think we talked about it on

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<v Speaker 3>the show before, and I had an accent. So people

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<v Speaker 3>are like, how is you how you even like acing

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<v Speaker 3>the test?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, it's math, like like I mean you know,

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<v Speaker 2>or so on and so on.

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<v Speaker 3>But question for you when it comes to nationalities and

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<v Speaker 3>all that, what is the common thing that Latino speakers

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<v Speaker 3>you don't have to undo in order to embrace an

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<v Speaker 3>American accent?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm and I'm asking for a friend. I'm asking

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<v Speaker 2>for a friend.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay. The main thing with the main thing with Spanish

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<v Speaker 5>speakers is that y'all have five vowels. And although in

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<v Speaker 5>the written English we look and we say we see ae,

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<v Speaker 5>I ou sure, maybe we have five two if you

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<v Speaker 5>think about it, and like dialect alert here I'm getting,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna get, I'm gonna get technical because you asked it.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, even for the letter A alone in English,

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<v Speaker 5>if you see it in a word, you don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>It has five different pronunciations, the letter A. So it

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<v Speaker 5>can be all like about alc apple, all like father,

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<v Speaker 5>all like awesome, or a like.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight mm hmmm. And so that's confusing.

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<v Speaker 5>That's a lot. And when it comes to some of

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<v Speaker 5>those sounds, they exist or some version of them exists

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<v Speaker 5>in Spanish. Right, the a father is like our closest

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<v Speaker 5>American version to the ah. But then what's what happens

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<v Speaker 5>when you get to a apple? So for a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of Spanish speakers, they're they're, they're there. English is amazing, right,

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<v Speaker 5>this is not about this is no judgment on their

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<v Speaker 5>right acquisition of English. But if they always say apple

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<v Speaker 5>and now they have to go a apple. And now,

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<v Speaker 5>by the way, for American speakers out there, we also

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<v Speaker 5>do an uglier a a in front of an er

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<v Speaker 5>and emorin ng sounds. So we go like ah, like family.

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<v Speaker 5>And if we go at apple family, people think we're

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<v Speaker 5>English British family. That's that's what I mean West. That's

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<v Speaker 5>almost all of the US almost uses that little tiny

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<v Speaker 5>dialect thing, and it's almost to tell if you don't

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<v Speaker 5>use it. So you say a family, family, it's a scandal.

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<v Speaker 5>Where's she from? She does not sound like she's from anywhere.

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<v Speaker 5>She sounds she's in like neutral land right anyway?

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<v Speaker 3>So we three hundred teaching teaching what a movie three

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<v Speaker 3>hundred where they're just like, we're from what is that Atlantic?

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<v Speaker 2>What is it?

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<v Speaker 5>Was?

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<v Speaker 3>Mid Atlantic Atlantic, which is like British Buddy's not.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a made up nineteen thirties accent where everybody sounds fancy,

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<v Speaker 5>but not from anywhere the middle of the Atlantic where

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<v Speaker 5>there's no land exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, she's from somewhere like lower of the rings.

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<v Speaker 5>Right exactly exactly fairy sound.

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<v Speaker 2>I've had to audition with that accent before, didn't know it.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you call me?

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>One of my.

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<v Speaker 3>Dreams is my one of my dreams is to perfect

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<v Speaker 3>a British accent.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why. I've always been like.

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<v Speaker 1>Why because the bridge come here and they get the

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<v Speaker 1>American action?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, because I.

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<v Speaker 3>Feel like it's just as if I go get James Bond,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the Brits in the Australians get all the

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<v Speaker 3>all American. You know, thank god for Chris Evans because

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<v Speaker 3>he finally was Captain America. But everybody else is Australian

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<v Speaker 3>and British, you know, playing these American comic book heroes.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you think you can do a British accent.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I know I can't, And that's why I know I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't.

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<v Speaker 5>Have you considered maybe you have a person, like a

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<v Speaker 5>specific person with a British accent that you could Craig.

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<v Speaker 5>Have you listened to him? Have you like repeated back?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, but he's so.

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<v Speaker 3>But the thing about his accent is he he's so

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<v Speaker 3>settled it almost doesn't sound British anymore. Have you heard

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<v Speaker 3>the last couple of James Bonds, They're like, his accent

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<v Speaker 3>is he's there in a couple of ways, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>where he just kind of, you know, kind of undertones it.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, but there's other characters that it's heavy.

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<v Speaker 5>So if I were to just like prod a tiny bit,

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<v Speaker 5>you might want to find someone else who also feels

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<v Speaker 5>more like your vibe. I mean, I'm not saying you

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<v Speaker 5>don't give Daniel kredit.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not what I'm asking.

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<v Speaker 5>But I'm just I mean, but I'm but I'm just saying,

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<v Speaker 5>like it is fun, unlocks something.

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<v Speaker 2>But you asked me.

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<v Speaker 5>What I dare you and I would love it. What

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<v Speaker 5>What is the James Bond accent? I mean, Pierce President,

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<v Speaker 5>who have coached is Irish and he did he went

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<v Speaker 5>for like a straight British sound, right, It's not like

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<v Speaker 5>he just brought his natural accent, but.

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<v Speaker 3>He's from there, so he grew up with all those

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<v Speaker 3>influences around him, right, So it's like the British grow

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<v Speaker 3>grows up with all Hollywood movies, so they're therefore they

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<v Speaker 3>they understand.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know many of them use dialect coaches.

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<v Speaker 3>Well for sure, but I will also say that they

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<v Speaker 3>grew up watching these movies, so they can imitate until

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<v Speaker 3>then they coach to kind of perfect. I've never had

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<v Speaker 3>to imitate a British accent because the first half of

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<v Speaker 3>my life I was watching everything that had a different

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<v Speaker 3>accent and English in Spanish, right, so everybody had a

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<v Speaker 3>Latino accent when I was growing up, even James Bond and.

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<v Speaker 4>Even Americans don't grow up watching British materials, so.

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<v Speaker 5>Like, yeah, also, this is a pitch, you know, that's

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<v Speaker 5>the next that's the next bond sound. I think we're ready.

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<v Speaker 4>For for a lot of accent, for a little bonello,

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<v Speaker 4>a little spice.

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<v Speaker 3>Who are you got a mellow bond?

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<v Speaker 1>I think we really welcome to.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a little bond.

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<v Speaker 1>Who is this?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but that you said it's ready for

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<v Speaker 2>a new direction. I'm giving the narrative. So speaking of

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<v Speaker 2>British accents, just bringing it back.

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<v Speaker 3>So the the I A e ou there's They pronounced

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<v Speaker 3>those a lot more closer to what Latino does right

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<v Speaker 3>in a way to way like ah a if.

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<v Speaker 5>That helps you as a bridge, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 5>take it away.

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<v Speaker 1>Bridge, But it's more like.

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<v Speaker 3>You're just saying because they do pronounce the words like

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<v Speaker 3>over here you said you we have those five for

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<v Speaker 3>the A. Yeah, it seems like they're pretty consistent with

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<v Speaker 3>their No.

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<v Speaker 5>They've got the same it's just that they don't do

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<v Speaker 5>that that ugly family. But yeah, it'd be like family.

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<v Speaker 5>The apple sound.

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<v Speaker 2>Is just uh, we say can't.

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<v Speaker 5>We say can't and they say can't. But that's the

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<v Speaker 5>awe sound like father father.

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<v Speaker 1>So is that the key to learning that action is

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<v Speaker 1>learning where the inflections go.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, there's so many parts. Okay, there's so many parts.

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<v Speaker 5>When we're learning English as a first language from another

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<v Speaker 5>part of the world. So this is Australian and British

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<v Speaker 5>and Irish and Scottish, South African. It's the most complicated

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<v Speaker 5>that the most sounds change constants and vowels. So you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the question is like, what would be some of the

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<v Speaker 5>main ones that you could focus on. I love what

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<v Speaker 5>you're saying with kant. This is technically called the ask list.

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<v Speaker 5>It's literally just a list of words. It's like three

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<v Speaker 5>pages of words that like the word ask. In American

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<v Speaker 5>English we would say apple ask and in British they

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<v Speaker 5>would say, oh, father osk and they don't even know.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I don't want to speak for all British people,

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<v Speaker 5>but I've talked to it and they don't realize that.

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<v Speaker 5>They say can and kan't.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't hear it. They don't hear it.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, is the word castle on the ask list?

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<v Speaker 5>And they're like, castle, Yeah, what's the list?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 5>It's like, oh, okay, right, right right. But the main

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<v Speaker 5>thing is the RS. So I don't This is like

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<v Speaker 5>way technical. But the rs at the ends of words

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<v Speaker 5>in English, in American English and in British English are

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<v Speaker 5>actually vowels. They're not the same our our mouth doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>do the same thing as a beginning are. So like

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<v Speaker 5>the word red, do the word red, river field, what's

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<v Speaker 5>happening your mouth redd?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 5>Like what's happening? There's like a coming together everything red.

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<v Speaker 5>If we did that at the end of the word father,

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<v Speaker 5>we would end up with father. It's like a it

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<v Speaker 5>would be a it's a dialect father. So what are

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<v Speaker 5>we really doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Father?

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<v Speaker 5>Or our mouth stays open? The definition of a vowel.

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<v Speaker 5>Can't believe IM talking about this, you guys, This is

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<v Speaker 5>like no, Yes, definition of a vowel is that your

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<v Speaker 5>mouth stays open and sound keeps coming out. This is

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<v Speaker 5>why we can sing on vowels. So if your mouth

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<v Speaker 5>is staying open on they are on the end of father,

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<v Speaker 5>it's a vowel father, or just has some what we

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<v Speaker 5>call our color father, unless our color would get you father,

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<v Speaker 5>that's British.

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<v Speaker 4>What would be some initial exercises that you do with

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<v Speaker 4>with with actors when you first start working.

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<v Speaker 5>With I mean, I kind of build the exercises based

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<v Speaker 5>on what they need, because often certain sounds are just

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<v Speaker 5>like oh I got that, and I'm like, we don't

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<v Speaker 5>need to be a dead.

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<v Speaker 1>Like do you remember do you remember the exercises? What

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<v Speaker 1>did we do the pencil?

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<v Speaker 5>Did you do the pencil?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it's just like you put.

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<v Speaker 3>The pencil here and make sure that your mouth is

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<v Speaker 3>so wet in between your teeth.

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<v Speaker 5>Just activated, It activates, you know. The main thing that

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<v Speaker 5>happens is that we're all used to how we sound,

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<v Speaker 5>like right, but we're all used to how we sound.

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<v Speaker 5>So certain muscles get used and the other muscles are like, no,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've never.

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<v Speaker 5>Been activated in the last twenty years. And then here

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<v Speaker 5>we are being like, let's activate those muscles, and so

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<v Speaker 5>doing a pencil or a cork like.

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<v Speaker 4>From okay, so what does that do if you put

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<v Speaker 4>a pencil in between your teeth?

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<v Speaker 1>What's to just work a little harder?

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<v Speaker 5>Now I have to like really do it. You're not

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<v Speaker 5>gonna you're not gonna have a.

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<v Speaker 1>Pen because because you're exercising certain.

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<v Speaker 5>Most yeah, yeah, it's just part of a warm up.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, honestly, I also phone, especially when I do a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of the procedural stuff. I just got to warm

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<v Speaker 3>up my vocals. You can't come in and just you know,

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<v Speaker 3>do it cold. So I you know a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>the jaw exercises.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>I like to joke that I have a long history

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<v Speaker 5>of telling movie stars what to do with their tongues,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's true, although it's not the whole job.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that in your book?

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<v Speaker 5>I think I came up with that during the rest.

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<v Speaker 2>After the book.

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<v Speaker 1>And see.

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<v Speaker 4>That somebody quote she tells the levers what to do

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<v Speaker 4>with they're tengue in the book?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you find that when actors have to play a

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<v Speaker 3>Latin character, it's nobody cares as much because they're just like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh they're have like some weird acting, we'll buy it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't want to throw under the bus what I

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<v Speaker 5>was about to say, but yes, I have worked on

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<v Speaker 5>projects that take place in very specific in a very

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<v Speaker 5>specific place and have been like, hey, but there's like

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<v Speaker 5>ten actors who you cast, and ones from Spain and

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<v Speaker 5>ones from Colombia and ones from you know, Venezuela, and

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<v Speaker 5>one's from Mexico. Shall we try to make them sound

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<v Speaker 5>the same.

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<v Speaker 2>If they're speaking English? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I'm like because if they're speaking Spanish, I

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<v Speaker 3>would hope that an actor does.

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<v Speaker 4>Is it, because the perception is that they all sound

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<v Speaker 4>the same from whoever the.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, correct, Yeah, if you speak Spanish as your first language,

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<v Speaker 3>when you speak English, you're all going to sound similar,

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<v Speaker 3>which you.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't know when I hear from so many I mean

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<v Speaker 5>friends as well as clients who are like offended, who

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<v Speaker 5>are like light offended, right, Like, of course, if you're

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<v Speaker 5>seeing something that's like a Cuban show and they didn't

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<v Speaker 5>put any work into making them sound Cuban, you're like, cool,

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<v Speaker 5>thanks for putting millions of dollars into that show, but

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<v Speaker 5>not that part of it, right.

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<v Speaker 3>No, And by the way, I mean there was a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of criticians that have you ever done God for

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<v Speaker 3>playing the cr nest, you know in the LBC aerosorcin movie,

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<v Speaker 3>because you know, there was not that emphasis of like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>when I speak English, I'm going to sound I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to also have the undertone.

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<v Speaker 2>Of a Cuban man, you know. So people just bought it.

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<v Speaker 3>They're like, he has an accent, so right, so he

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<v Speaker 3>sounds like Ricardo, I guess, you know, but that yes,

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<v Speaker 3>it goes it's just about also the actors should probably

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<v Speaker 3>be a little bit more hungry for that part, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>but look, how you ever done as one of the

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<v Speaker 3>best actors of our entire generation, So he can do

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<v Speaker 3>no wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>In my eyes, I love that man.

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<v Speaker 3>I think in general as a rule of thumb, for

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<v Speaker 3>most actors and for all young actors who are listening

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<v Speaker 3>to this thing is you know, it's what separates you

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<v Speaker 3>from you know, from the rest of going for the

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<v Speaker 3>same thing. It's like that little extra layer you put

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<v Speaker 3>in there. It's what keeps you on a set.

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<v Speaker 5>And to circle back to your German right Like, yes,

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<v Speaker 5>of course understandably you can. You anybody can get stuck

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<v Speaker 5>in like that's so different from me. But ultimately, what

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<v Speaker 5>you're going to be inside of, inside of a creative

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<v Speaker 5>process is like the curiosity and the wonder and the

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<v Speaker 5>beauty of like.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's this guy?

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<v Speaker 5>How do I this guy?

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<v Speaker 2>And that?

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<v Speaker 5>And that is such a more generative and creative space.

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<v Speaker 5>Then shit, I'm not this guy, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're both by lingual.

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<v Speaker 3>We speak Spanish and English, right, well I kind of

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<v Speaker 3>speak English, but he doesn't want But so the so

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<v Speaker 3>for for people like Freddie and me who are bilingual

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<v Speaker 3>and quite quite bi lingual, and I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Both English and Spanish.

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<v Speaker 3>What are the accents that are probably the low hanging

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<v Speaker 3>fruit for us? What do you think, like will be

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<v Speaker 3>the accents that we'd be like very good at because

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<v Speaker 3>you have the understanding of how to pronounce stuff in

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<v Speaker 3>Spanish and.

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<v Speaker 5>How to pronounce okay, you tell me, what do you think.

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<v Speaker 2>A British accent like James Bond?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that.

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<v Speaker 2>There for you?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess other other Latin actions. Have you ever had

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<v Speaker 1>to do anything other than an American accent for.

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<v Speaker 2>For a project?

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<v Speaker 3>A lot, like for different Mexican accents, Yeah, like northern,

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<v Speaker 3>the fa you know, you know, like have you have

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<v Speaker 3>you gotten very specific about the mean? Yeah, in Mexico

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<v Speaker 3>you think, okay, this manta, this man, I think this

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<v Speaker 3>manata way right. And if you're in Colombia and there's

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<v Speaker 3>like three different Columbian accents, rights see, and you know

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<v Speaker 3>I'm an, I can butcher a Puerto Rican. I can

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<v Speaker 3>butcher the Dominican, right, I can also like Argentina.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like you know, you know, was a key landed

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<v Speaker 2>their nose and.

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<v Speaker 3>So everybody has like this little singer and I'm gifted

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<v Speaker 3>on all those South American accents because I grew up

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<v Speaker 3>with them, and I grew up imitating them, right, just

0:23:48.800 --> 0:23:51.440
<v Speaker 3>like the British grew up imitating all different American accents,

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<v Speaker 3>the American, the New Yorker accent or the Boston accent,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like.

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<v Speaker 2>All those guys. So I knew how to do those.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that lot.

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<v Speaker 3>But and so if I were to speak in English

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<v Speaker 3>as one of these nationalities, I could write, it's a Cowana.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, when I speak to Amelia seven

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<v Speaker 3>after I hang up the phone.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm speaking Cuban.

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<v Speaker 3>Really were, But that's that's the thing. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>mean I don't know, but commonly, you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know, for you is the only other one I would

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<v Speaker 5>add to that. I mean maybe Portuguese, right, maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 5>maybe Brazilian or Portuguese like.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of the.

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<v Speaker 5>And the other one, although it's like, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit of a dance over to it.

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<v Speaker 3>But Italian, oh yeah, Italian, I think I could probably.

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<v Speaker 5>And I you might have caught this on on that

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<v Speaker 5>list of names that you said earlier, but I got

0:24:39.680 --> 0:24:43.880
<v Speaker 5>to coach American crime story versace, and that's Edgar Ramirez,

0:24:43.920 --> 0:24:47.080
<v Speaker 5>your countryman. Yeah, yeah, I love them, Penelope Cruz and

0:24:47.119 --> 0:24:48.720
<v Speaker 5>a little bit of Ricky Martin.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, and were completely different places.

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<v Speaker 5>And none of them Italian.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, right, yeah, And Ricky's from the island. That that's

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<v Speaker 4>a whole other different sort of rhythm, you know, the

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<v Speaker 4>Puerto Ricans from the Eye Island in the Puerto Ricans

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<v Speaker 4>from like New York or Chicago. And my experience has

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<v Speaker 4>been different. And sometimes I'll go to Puerto Rico and

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<v Speaker 4>I listen to people in the island, I'll be like, what,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I don't know if it's the speed or

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<v Speaker 4>or or there's something in the dialect and the and

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<v Speaker 4>the rhythm of it that that sometimes and Puerto Rico, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it's the island where my family is from.

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<v Speaker 1>There's sometimes I have to kind of slow down.

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<v Speaker 4>And just.

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<v Speaker 2>Money swallow other words.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, it's a different it's a different rhythms.

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<v Speaker 2>In the world.

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<v Speaker 5>In order to make people feel like they haven't us,

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<v Speaker 5>which also means then that there's them, like there's this

0:25:39.200 --> 0:25:41.119
<v Speaker 5>there's this amazing quote from a from a woman I

0:25:41.240 --> 0:25:44.160
<v Speaker 5>quote in the book talking about how like put put

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<v Speaker 5>the same group of people on two sides of a

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<v Speaker 5>mountain range and within like months, they'll start to sound

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<v Speaker 5>different within generations. Obviously they're like fully drenched other languages,

0:25:53.000 --> 0:25:55.480
<v Speaker 5>like we do this, it's a human thing.

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<v Speaker 2>We do.

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<v Speaker 3>You talk about the Italian accident for that specific movie,

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<v Speaker 3>did you feel that the fact that they spoke Spanish

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<v Speaker 3>was in advantage for their Italian accents or everyone had

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<v Speaker 3>to have.

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<v Speaker 5>To ask them, You have to ask them. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 5>think yes, But also like, okay, what's the what's this?

0:26:14.240 --> 0:26:14.600
<v Speaker 6>This is?

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<v Speaker 5>This is just like fun geeky, but like, what's the

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<v Speaker 5>biggest difference between the Spanish and Italian when speaking in English?

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<v Speaker 5>There's this, right, There's something about the musicality, and there's

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<v Speaker 5>also that I can't say this is not sounding like

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<v Speaker 5>being me and to Italian speakers, I am not. This

0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:33.400
<v Speaker 5>is just how sounds work. Spanish speakers know how to

0:26:33.440 --> 0:26:37.480
<v Speaker 5>stop a word on a consonant. Italians have literally never

0:26:37.480 --> 0:26:39.600
<v Speaker 5>done this in their life, so they will always add

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<v Speaker 5>a vowel on the end. So often we were like

0:26:41.960 --> 0:26:44.760
<v Speaker 5>artificially adding in a vowel. So if it was like

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<v Speaker 5>the word stop, you know, like stopped on a tell

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<v Speaker 5>or something, it'd be like stop, you need like the

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<v Speaker 5>little oh yeah, right, And so giving them the permission

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<v Speaker 5>to find like how to have more of a through

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<v Speaker 5>energy instead of a you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I remember reading Marlon Brando when he played Sabada

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<v Speaker 4>and he was saying, I wasn't really trying to learn

0:27:06.280 --> 0:27:08.280
<v Speaker 4>an accent, but I was. I was just trying to

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<v Speaker 4>learn the rhythm. And so when he did that movie,

0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:14.359
<v Speaker 4>it was more about the rhythm that made it believable

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<v Speaker 4>to him.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there a difference?

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<v Speaker 4>So like I was like, oh, that's an interesting thing

0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:19.760
<v Speaker 4>to say, you know, Like, is.

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<v Speaker 5>There also once we're doing English as a second language,

0:27:23.040 --> 0:27:25.160
<v Speaker 5>we're speaking in English, right, We're not doing language work,

0:27:25.200 --> 0:27:28.520
<v Speaker 5>that's its own thing. But we're speaking English as somebody

0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:31.240
<v Speaker 5>who grew up speaking Spanish or you know, Italian or

0:27:31.240 --> 0:27:34.240
<v Speaker 5>whatever whatever. There's range no, no, two people who were

0:27:34.280 --> 0:27:37.040
<v Speaker 5>in that scenario speak English the same. Because when did

0:27:37.080 --> 0:27:39.240
<v Speaker 5>you learn it? How what was your like interest in

0:27:39.320 --> 0:27:41.880
<v Speaker 5>learning it? What was your inner resistance? What is your

0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:44.080
<v Speaker 5>like vibe around? How dare I have to speak this

0:27:44.160 --> 0:27:46.120
<v Speaker 5>language versus I want to soak.

0:27:45.960 --> 0:27:46.680
<v Speaker 2>It all up? Right?

0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:50.239
<v Speaker 5>This is all super personal. So that does actually give

0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:52.920
<v Speaker 5>us freedom also as as you.

0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:55.960
<v Speaker 3>Know, flipping in a little bit on your leadership work

0:27:56.640 --> 0:27:59.800
<v Speaker 3>and with those individuals that have to you know, talk

0:27:59.840 --> 0:28:02.280
<v Speaker 3>to whole company or do a key, don't speak, or

0:28:02.320 --> 0:28:03.440
<v Speaker 3>they're just in politics.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an interesting thing to ask for me because.

0:28:09.040 --> 0:28:12.840
<v Speaker 3>We know multiple cultures that are listening to our to

0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:18.320
<v Speaker 3>our to our show and very different you know, origins

0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:22.240
<v Speaker 3>of latinos as well when it comes to leadership, being noticed,

0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:24.760
<v Speaker 3>being you know, being listened to with a with a

0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:27.880
<v Speaker 3>sense of respect and authority. What what advice do you

0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:31.199
<v Speaker 3>give those who are embarking into like I want to

0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:34.240
<v Speaker 3>unlock a different world for me, And that doesn't mean

0:28:34.280 --> 0:28:36.800
<v Speaker 3>that I'm pretending to be someone else, because it's not

0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 3>that you're changing who you are how you're talking. You're

0:28:40.000 --> 0:28:43.160
<v Speaker 3>just tapping into a different form of expression that allows

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:46.760
<v Speaker 3>you to really you know, submers yourself in a different world.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, you get it.

0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:48.760
<v Speaker 2>That's it.

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 5>That's it. There's so much of the work is like, Okay,

0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:55.040
<v Speaker 5>we'll have in front of us, say a speech or

0:28:55.080 --> 0:28:57.080
<v Speaker 5>a panel that we're prepping for or whatever, like, and

0:28:57.080 --> 0:28:59.240
<v Speaker 5>that's the deliverable, that's the thing, And we know we're

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:00.920
<v Speaker 5>kind of doing the thing. We need the thing to

0:29:00.960 --> 0:29:03.560
<v Speaker 5>be good by that date, but we also know that

0:29:03.600 --> 0:29:06.480
<v Speaker 5>we're kind of using that as maybe a trojan horse

0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:09.120
<v Speaker 5>to work on the other stuff, which is like, how

0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:11.280
<v Speaker 5>do I show up? What is this like thing? What

0:29:11.360 --> 0:29:13.400
<v Speaker 5>happen like spiritually?

0:29:13.520 --> 0:29:13.640
<v Speaker 4>Right?

0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 5>Like, how does the spirit of me show up in

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:20.120
<v Speaker 5>these spaces, regardless of accent, regardless of my old stories

0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:22.080
<v Speaker 5>of my voice is annoying or film the blank? Right,

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:25.640
<v Speaker 5>what does it take for me to like really really

0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:27.760
<v Speaker 5>show up in these spaces? And for each person it's

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:29.960
<v Speaker 5>a little different obviously, right, It's like it would not

0:29:30.040 --> 0:29:32.040
<v Speaker 5>work in any way to be like, here's my framework,

0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:33.800
<v Speaker 5>you have to do this to do that, right, Like

0:29:33.840 --> 0:29:36.200
<v Speaker 5>this this is not this is not it, although there

0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:38.440
<v Speaker 5>are universal themes that do that do come up a lot,

0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:41.240
<v Speaker 5>but ultimately this is about visibility. This is about what

0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:42.920
<v Speaker 5>does it feel like to be seen? What does it

0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:45.560
<v Speaker 5>feel like to be seen? And also claim how I

0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:47.800
<v Speaker 5>mean I lovingly use the word weird, but it just

0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:50.520
<v Speaker 5>how how unique we are, who we actually are, what

0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:54.920
<v Speaker 5>we actually care about while being seen and continue to like,

0:29:55.080 --> 0:29:57.640
<v Speaker 5>continue to see, continue to make it about who we're

0:29:57.640 --> 0:30:00.200
<v Speaker 5>talking to and not about us. Right, So some of

0:30:00.200 --> 0:30:03.040
<v Speaker 5>this is practice, some of it is new perspective, right,

0:30:03.160 --> 0:30:04.840
<v Speaker 5>like how do I switch up my approach so that

0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:07.560
<v Speaker 5>I stop being like in the moments before I go on,

0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:09.800
<v Speaker 5>all I'm thinking about is I hope they don't notice

0:30:09.840 --> 0:30:13.320
<v Speaker 5>that I dot that dot and into something like I

0:30:13.360 --> 0:30:15.120
<v Speaker 5>can't believe I get to talk about my favorite thing.

0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:17.920
<v Speaker 5>My goal is that by the end, here's the new

0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:21.040
<v Speaker 5>thought that they will have, right, Like, there's just healthier mindset.

0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:24.120
<v Speaker 2>What is your intentions right before you even speak?

0:30:24.200 --> 0:30:26.600
<v Speaker 5>And then when we talk about accent, it's like, yeah,

0:30:26.600 --> 0:30:29.160
<v Speaker 5>of course there is sounds right if you've never made

0:30:29.160 --> 0:30:30.840
<v Speaker 5>a teach sound in your life, Like, this is the

0:30:30.840 --> 0:30:33.000
<v Speaker 5>thing we can work on. And maybe the teach maybe

0:30:33.000 --> 0:30:35.960
<v Speaker 5>getting the tongue outside of your mouth, which is what

0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:37.920
<v Speaker 5>has to happen, only tiny bit, but it has to

0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:40.959
<v Speaker 5>happen to make a teach happen. Maybe that will unlock

0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:43.760
<v Speaker 5>a sense of confidence. But maybe that's not it, or

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:47.719
<v Speaker 5>maybe that in concert with and what's the with and

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:52.000
<v Speaker 5>it's like different for everyone, but the spirit of it is,

0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:56.040
<v Speaker 5>what if I'm exactly right? What if I am the

0:30:56.160 --> 0:30:58.600
<v Speaker 5>right person to be on that stage talking the way

0:30:58.640 --> 0:31:01.560
<v Speaker 5>I talk with a little bit of my own personal mischief,

0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:05.240
<v Speaker 5>like the twinkle in my eye because I'm up to something, right.

0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:11.760
<v Speaker 4>What made you transition from dialect coaching to public speaking, Like, like,

0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:14.400
<v Speaker 4>what inspired it to talk to me about the what

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:14.920
<v Speaker 4>that journey?

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<v Speaker 5>I'll tell you. It was the twenty eighteen midterms and

0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:20.400
<v Speaker 5>I was coaching gal Gado on Wonder Woman Too. I

0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:22.840
<v Speaker 5>got to do the US portion in DC before they

0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:26.960
<v Speaker 5>shot most of it in London, and I had downtime

0:31:27.000 --> 0:31:28.680
<v Speaker 5>because there was a lot of stunt sequences and she

0:31:28.760 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 5>wasn't even like like hooked up to a microphone, and

0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 5>so I was like in DC for a month, we

0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:36.320
<v Speaker 5>had like washed, not washing what's it called Pennsylvania Avenue,

0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:39.400
<v Speaker 5>like shut down for stunt sequences. And I was just wandering,

0:31:39.480 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 5>being like I'm not needed, no one needs me.

0:31:41.680 --> 0:31:42.160
<v Speaker 2>What am I doing?

0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 5>I'm I'm not great with like not feeling needed, you know.

0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:47.040
<v Speaker 5>And in the midst of that, I got this call

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:48.920
<v Speaker 5>from move on dot org, which is one of these

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:52.160
<v Speaker 5>organizations that finds good candidates and then is like, we'll

0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:54.000
<v Speaker 5>give you resources. Maybe that means money, but maybe that

0:31:54.040 --> 0:31:58.080
<v Speaker 5>means training. And that was the year that became the

0:31:58.080 --> 0:32:00.800
<v Speaker 5>Blue Wave, a huge amount of first time candidates, a

0:32:00.840 --> 0:32:03.240
<v Speaker 5>huge amount of women candidates. One but we didn't know

0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:05.360
<v Speaker 5>that the summer before all we knew that was that

0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:07.680
<v Speaker 5>there was a lot of first time candidates, which is

0:32:07.720 --> 0:32:13.120
<v Speaker 5>another word for members of the community who were like,

0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:16.840
<v Speaker 5>oh god, is it me? Should it be me?

0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:17.840
<v Speaker 6>Oh God?

0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:19.480
<v Speaker 1>But why did you get a call if you're a

0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:20.240
<v Speaker 1>dialect coach?

0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:24.200
<v Speaker 5>A friend recommended me, interesting, but she'd be good for this.

0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:27.920
<v Speaker 5>But an activist like I care about the world a lot,

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 5>so he knew that. And but the call came out

0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:33.560
<v Speaker 5>of the blue, and they literally were like, we have

0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:35.120
<v Speaker 5>no money. This is not that, that's not that's all

0:32:35.240 --> 0:32:35.560
<v Speaker 5>this is.

0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:36.640
<v Speaker 2>That's all this is.

0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:39.160
<v Speaker 5>But there's all these candidates. Could you do a zoom

0:32:39.160 --> 0:32:39.800
<v Speaker 5>call here and there?

0:32:40.160 --> 0:32:43.880
<v Speaker 4>And I was like, but why did they feel you

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:46.560
<v Speaker 4>were qualified to do public speaking if if all you

0:32:46.640 --> 0:32:48.560
<v Speaker 4>had done before that was dialect coaching.

0:32:48.960 --> 0:32:54.080
<v Speaker 1>They were right, no, no, absolutely, such a sense.

0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:54.800
<v Speaker 2>To no, no, No.

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<v Speaker 5>It is because I mean, I think it's because I

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<v Speaker 5>was doing activism work and I had been coaching my

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<v Speaker 5>clients who were doing public speak, and like, I think

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<v Speaker 5>my friend, his name is Joel, My friend put it

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<v Speaker 5>together before I did, and I told him this. He

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<v Speaker 5>came to one on book signings and he fully cried

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<v Speaker 5>because I was like, it's that dude.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh so he's the one.

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<v Speaker 5>There were a lot of touch points. There were a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of touch points, but that that moment when I

0:33:16.920 --> 0:33:19.760
<v Speaker 5>got that call from move On, how easy was that? Right?

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<v Speaker 5>They came to me and they were And it wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>like they were like, we're gonna throw you a bunch

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<v Speaker 5>of first time candidates for office and then we assume

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<v Speaker 5>that you're going to probably leave your career behind and

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<v Speaker 5>make a big pivot and then write a best selling book.

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<v Speaker 5>They didn't say that, right. They were just like, try

0:33:36.120 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 5>this thing. It's free, maybe you can help. And I

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<v Speaker 5>was like, sign me up. And then while I was

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<v Speaker 5>coaching those women, I was.

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<v Speaker 6>Like, oh, the whole history of the world of public

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<v Speaker 6>speaking is so mean. So it's so fear based, it's

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<v Speaker 6>so mean.

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<v Speaker 5>You're doing this wrong. You're doing this wrong. You're doing

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<v Speaker 5>this wrong. You're doing this wrong. You better get this right,

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<v Speaker 5>don't fuck it up. Do this with your hands or

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<v Speaker 5>everyone will laugh at you. Like right, like some version

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<v Speaker 5>of that we've all gotten m And I was like,

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<v Speaker 5>especially maybe for women, but also especially for people of color,

0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:16.040
<v Speaker 5>especially for queer folks, especially for English as a second language,

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<v Speaker 5>Like anybody who feels internally marked as different in how

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<v Speaker 5>we sound or how we seem. Right, I said early on,

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<v Speaker 5>like we get treated differently based on how he'd write.

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<v Speaker 5>This is where I was like, oh, we need a

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<v Speaker 5>different rule book for public speaking. That is like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, the opposite of fear, they say, is life.

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<v Speaker 5>What is a love based approach to public speaking? How

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<v Speaker 5>do we talk about what we care about so the

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<v Speaker 5>care spreads? How does that change the world? How does

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<v Speaker 5>that change whose voices get heard?

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<v Speaker 3>From your perspective? What makes a good leader when it

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<v Speaker 3>comes to public speaking?

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<v Speaker 2>Like? What is that? What is that trade? What is that?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to call it character trait? But wait,

0:34:53.640 --> 0:34:55.320
<v Speaker 2>what is that? What is the aleming?

0:34:55.360 --> 0:34:56.960
<v Speaker 3>What is the thing that makes a good leader when

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<v Speaker 3>it comes to public speaking?

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like we could all answer this so many

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<v Speaker 5>different ways, sure, but what came to mind instantly when

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<v Speaker 5>you said that is like a real commitment to showing

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<v Speaker 5>up human.

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<v Speaker 1>For it not to feel forced or over our over.

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<v Speaker 5>And like the vulnerability laced with strength, right, vulnerability doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't have to be in weak weakness, but saying when

0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:20.799
<v Speaker 5>we don't know something, but saying you know, like we

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<v Speaker 5>all know there's a way to say, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>That makes us feel instantly powerless. I'm tiny. Why should

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<v Speaker 5>I be here versus the I don't know. That's just like,

0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:30.479
<v Speaker 5>that's just such a good question, let's find out, right,

0:35:30.520 --> 0:35:32.640
<v Speaker 5>And this comes from like being in our spine, being

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<v Speaker 5>in our chest and really having the compassion for ourselves

0:35:35.760 --> 0:35:38.520
<v Speaker 5>and for others. That makes us be like I am

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<v Speaker 5>going to take up the amount of space in the

0:35:40.600 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 5>world that is like that is that is going to

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<v Speaker 5>offer humanity and like, you know, humanness, I mean like

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<v Speaker 5>our animal body, like the truth of oh my god words, right,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, but like this thing that feels very human,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to take up enough space that everybody else

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<v Speaker 5>also feels like they're allowed to be human, and then

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<v Speaker 5>we make rooms better.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>And I often say to my clients, like, think about

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<v Speaker 5>the the type of leader you wish there was more

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<v Speaker 5>of in the world, and then just show up that way,

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<v Speaker 5>like do it today. We're not we're not gonna be perfect,

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<v Speaker 5>but like do it today.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you're in the business more yeah, And if

0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:17.680
<v Speaker 3>you're in the business of leadership, I mean that's one

0:36:17.800 --> 0:36:21.000
<v Speaker 3>thing you have to really believe to your court that

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<v Speaker 3>you're standing on that podium for a specific purpose, and

0:36:24.560 --> 0:36:27.320
<v Speaker 3>you intentionally have to move to actually get to where

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<v Speaker 3>you're you're preaching.

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<v Speaker 2>H you heard it. You have to you have to

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<v Speaker 2>earn it, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously this is there's like a Brazilian categories that we'd

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<v Speaker 3>love to talk.

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<v Speaker 2>To you about.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean we this might be in this might be

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<v Speaker 3>a two episode, you know, a two episode.

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<v Speaker 5>This is very h yeah, vast yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And we didn't even open a little can of worms

0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:51.040
<v Speaker 3>of like what were my biggest problems? When you can

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<v Speaker 3>speaking about it like an American accent. I think for me,

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't get out of my own way. There's the

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<v Speaker 3>mold story. Like I think that as soon as I

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<v Speaker 3>knew that there was a word that I had a

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<v Speaker 3>problem with, I could flow.

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<v Speaker 2>Through the first three sentences.

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<v Speaker 3>And as soon as that word wasn't you know team

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<v Speaker 3>minus five seconds for me pronouncing it, I started falling apart.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think it's because I didn't want to let

0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:16.680
<v Speaker 3>people down around me as supposed to just like, let

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<v Speaker 3>me just tell the story.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I need that tool, Okay, let me do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm you said here boom, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, I'm a little more matter of fact now, but

0:37:23.280 --> 0:37:26.960
<v Speaker 3>you know back then, you know, I was giving roles

0:37:27.000 --> 0:37:30.400
<v Speaker 3>nobody's ever given me before. You know, So when you

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:33.560
<v Speaker 3>talk about leadership, when you talk about community, delegation, right

0:37:33.680 --> 0:37:38.560
<v Speaker 3>doing specifically when it comes to communicating, whether it's change, inspiration,

0:37:40.400 --> 0:37:43.799
<v Speaker 3>you know, unity, all these things. You know, you have

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<v Speaker 3>to kind of find that those tools that allowed you

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<v Speaker 3>to unlock these destinations.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have any other thoughts or questions?

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<v Speaker 4>I just think it's great that you pointed out that

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<v Speaker 4>there was a particular friend who saw something in you,

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<v Speaker 4>uh that that other people also started to see, and

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<v Speaker 4>how that eventually led you to where you're at now.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, sometimes life just kind of takes you in

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<v Speaker 4>different directions, right and.

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<v Speaker 1>Like here you are and that you're you're an author

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<v Speaker 1>now and you're you're.

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<v Speaker 4>Doing something completely different than what you initially intended to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's great.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, sometimes we all have these talents that it

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<v Speaker 4>takes other people to see within us.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think it's wonderful.

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<v Speaker 2>With what you do.

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<v Speaker 4>I've worked with dialect coaches in the past and it's

0:38:31.040 --> 0:38:34.319
<v Speaker 4>helped me so immensely, and I can just imagine how

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<v Speaker 4>what a profound impact you've had on other people, especially

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<v Speaker 4>like Wilmer, right, which is one of the reasons why

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<v Speaker 4>you're here now.

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<v Speaker 2>So thank yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And also a big, big shout out to your book

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<v Speaker 3>Permission to Speak.

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<v Speaker 1>Permission to Speak, you do it by now.

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<v Speaker 5>So did I do the audio?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm very, very.

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<v Speaker 5>Proud of my audio books. Yeah, and I've I've been

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<v Speaker 5>told here's my favorite compliment I've ever received. This is

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<v Speaker 5>not true, but it feels like it. I have been

0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:09.840
<v Speaker 5>told that I've ruined all other audios.

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<v Speaker 1>You ruined because yours is so good?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that why?

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<v Speaker 5>Implication?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you're like, you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know, look, some nonfiction that gets read by the not

0:39:20.080 --> 0:39:24.560
<v Speaker 5>author but bless you know, has this kind of detached vibe.

0:39:24.920 --> 0:39:27.680
<v Speaker 5>I'm going to try to sound serious by saying these

0:39:27.719 --> 0:39:31.200
<v Speaker 5>sentences in this certain way. And I was like, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>going to, you know, I mean, perform, right, but not

0:39:34.160 --> 0:39:37.080
<v Speaker 5>perform like fake you fake perform like make come alive.

0:39:37.200 --> 0:39:39.880
<v Speaker 5>We have this the word in in the you know,

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<v Speaker 5>acting world of lifting, right, We're lifting the words from

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<v Speaker 5>the page. It's like we're lifting these ideas.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you were a tad more animated than I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>probably the average.

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<v Speaker 5>Listen y'all listen and report back. I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>That book anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>You get your books or audio books, and thank you

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<v Speaker 3>so much and thank you so much for being part

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<v Speaker 3>of my journey and uh and being so instrumental to

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<v Speaker 3>how I'm speaking on a podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Now she's going to give you notes once we're done

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<v Speaker 1>with this.

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<v Speaker 2>Wilmer, You're welcome.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a podcast part well that would be a bit

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<v Speaker 5>more English, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes it would.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Freddie Rodriguez and.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Wilmer about the rama.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for watching this, uh, two part episode in Venezuela.

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<v Speaker 2>Chauma Samara, Yes.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, I'm seeing.

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<v Speaker 4>Is a production from the V Sound and iHeartMedia's Michael

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<v Speaker 4>through That podcast Network, hosted by Me, Freddie Rodriguez, and

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<v Speaker 4>Wilmer Valdorama.

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<v Speaker 3>Those Amigos is produced by Aaron Burleson and Sophie Spencer zabos.

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<v Speaker 4>Our executive producers are Wilmri Valdorama, Freddie Rodriguez, Aaron Burlson,

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<v Speaker 4>and Leo Klem at WV Sound.

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<v Speaker 3>This episode was shot and edited it by Ryan Posts

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<v Speaker 3>and mixed by Sean Tracy, and features original music by

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<v Speaker 3>Madison Devenport and Helo boy.

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<v Speaker 4>Our cover art photography is by David Avalos and designed

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