Speaker 1: Orlando Brown junior. He's expected to sign with the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 1: Sterious Slag going back to Philadelphia. New England has ingreed
Speaker 1: to terms mctight end Mike Siki Mariota finally an ego,
Speaker 1: Harrison Smith staying in the Minnesota Vikings Defendonah Williams has
Speaker 1: requested a trade. What is it about couch McDaniel that's
Speaker 1: intriguing to you? Be a little weird top of the morning, Tulia,
Speaker 1: It's Morden somewhere. It's around the NFL. From the Chris
Speaker 1: Whistling podcast studio, I Don Huns is joined by the
Speaker 1: lads Craig Rosenthal and I am Mark Sel And it's
Speaker 1: me hope that we are a great way from the
Speaker 1: hills of the cemetery. But if the Lord does decide
Speaker 1: that it is our time, it's good to have a
Speaker 1: grave digger at points amazing Patty Saint Patrick's everybody, how
Speaker 1: you celebrated, you know you will be. I will be um.
Speaker 1: My mother side of the family is Irish and we
Speaker 1: will be having some guinness after this, throwing some cornhole,
Speaker 1: which is not an Irish activity. But we're gonna have
Speaker 1: some fun in the front yard. With some neighbors and
Speaker 1: enjoy it. Um how about you guys. I mean I
Speaker 1: left my abode and notice that there was already a
Speaker 1: string of venues um overflowing it like six am, with
Speaker 1: you know, the variety of individuals drinking their green beer.
Speaker 1: And I thought, well, I'm gonna go do the work
Speaker 1: part of this day and then I might go see
Speaker 1: how that figures out later with it. It's definitely a holiday.
Speaker 1: I think I feel the difference of living in New York,
Speaker 1: which different two years and here the most. But my
Speaker 1: parents are coming to town tonight, so you know that
Speaker 1: will really tie when they get here again. I love
Speaker 1: that you're gonna have a pint of Guinness, a tall one.
Speaker 1: I mean they're getting rather late fighting that lax traffic.
Speaker 1: Um man. We I would love to do a live
Speaker 1: show in Ireland, and that is a goal, a personal
Speaker 1: goal of mine that we can get there. We have
Speaker 1: a great fan base over on the Emerald Dial. I
Speaker 1: think I've shared some memories on the show of my
Speaker 1: trip to Ireland as a teenager when I went to
Speaker 1: the Waterford Crystal factory and they told everybody, oh, this
Speaker 1: is the Super Bowl Trophy, and I was like, no,
Speaker 1: it's not, because it was really actually the NC Double
Speaker 1: a championship trophy, but it was cute. They didn't know
Speaker 1: any better. Yeah, And then I think about this bus
Speaker 1: that we rode up and down the countryside from north
Speaker 1: to south, and it was piloted by this very ruggedly
Speaker 1: handsome older gentleman named Tommy O'Reilly, and we all kind
Speaker 1: of fell in love with him because he had that
Speaker 1: charm that you're looking for from your Irish tour bus.
Speaker 1: And I'll never forget what he said at the end
Speaker 1: of the trip that we all were just melting in
Speaker 1: his hands at that point, and he went, all right,
Speaker 1: it's toime. I have to return to me small wife
Speaker 1: and a large family. And we were like, oh, Irish
Speaker 1: people are the best. That's his true identity, you believe,
Speaker 1: Tommy O'Reilly. Yeah, I mean, I mean it could have
Speaker 1: been like Herb Solowitz or something possibly a ruse, but no,
Speaker 1: it sounds authentic. Um. All right, so let's get to
Speaker 1: the National Football League matters. This is our fourth podcast
Speaker 1: of the week. I believe it's our eighth show of
Speaker 1: the last two weeks. Yeah, yeah, and that's for a reason, right, Mark,
Speaker 1: This is a big period in the calendar. These are
Speaker 1: the weeks when when you dig in and like, that's
Speaker 1: why you work on Saint Patrick's sayin I think we
Speaker 1: typically work on every holiday and we're continuing that that
Speaker 1: effort to remember last Saint Patrick's Day what we were
Speaker 1: doing on the show Little Watson, it was the day
Speaker 1: I do we we also essentially we had done another
Speaker 1: show and then we left to be free and then
Speaker 1: it was like a all hands on deck, we have
Speaker 1: to announce we have to talk about this guy again.
Speaker 1: For Lacia and I were sitting in a bar in
Speaker 1: uh els Ugundo and then a text came over the
Speaker 1: wire that had gone down Watson to Browns, and we
Speaker 1: did a thirty minute podcast that was our most listened
Speaker 1: to show of all time in the history of the podcast,
Speaker 1: A Dark A Dark Corner. So do we want him
Speaker 1: just to keep getting traded and moved around? Is would
Speaker 1: that help us? Ultimately? I don't know. Let's go, let's
Speaker 1: get a Lamar Jackson trade later today to ruin the
Speaker 1: rest of our day. All right, So we're gonna go
Speaker 1: through all the news and we will before we sign off.
Speaker 1: But now that you know, free agency is really settling
Speaker 1: in a lot of transactions. How many guys are left
Speaker 1: Greg in the top like twenty or so of your
Speaker 1: original one on one. I believe there are only four
Speaker 1: players in the top twenty five. And that's just from Monday.
Speaker 1: If you went back to the original one where it's
Speaker 1: Gino and Lamar and whatnot, it would be like and
Speaker 1: even lower number four or four of the top four
Speaker 1: or the four Just that A curious Chauncey Gardner Johnson
Speaker 1: still out there. Odell who supposedly wants twenty million dollars
Speaker 1: a year. I think that explains why he's not finding
Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner, who was pointed out to me waited a
Speaker 1: long time last year to sign, maybe not in a hurry,
Speaker 1: wants to figure out which there are whispers that he
Speaker 1: could return to Seattle. Seattle also Palaces. I think those
Speaker 1: are probably the two most like. And then Dalton Salts.
Speaker 1: No love for Dalton Salts out there. You know why
Speaker 1: loaded tight end draft class. I wonder if that's hurting
Speaker 1: his market. Yeah. I may mention Dalton Schultz later in
Speaker 1: the show because we're gonna share some It's a segment
Speaker 1: Grave Digger that I call sensible transactions for those with
Speaker 1: a refined positional Powell. So it's not just willy nilly
Speaker 1: right throwing darts. No, we've surveyed the landscape and we're
Speaker 1: gonna try to match up some players to teams. Only
Speaker 1: something like thirty three of the one oh one since
Speaker 1: Monday even are available. I mean, the NFL does not
Speaker 1: wait around anymore. It's over quick, all right. Let's get
Speaker 1: to the news that broke late Wednesday. The Bengals made
Speaker 1: a big move on their offensive line, signing left tackle
Speaker 1: Orlando Brown, formerly of the Chiefs, four years, sixty four million,
Speaker 1: a major move for the team, and he has blocked
Speaker 1: Brown for Lamar Jackson in Baltimore, Mahomes in Kansas City,
Speaker 1: and now he's going to take over as the left tackle.
Speaker 1: This is one of those Domino moves because the left
Speaker 1: tackle previously in Cincinnati was Jonah Williams, who he thought, oh,
Speaker 1: maybe they'll kick him to the right side. Lall Collins
Speaker 1: gets traded or released and it works that way. Well,
Speaker 1: then Jonah Williams comes out greggy and says, well, get
Speaker 1: me out of here. I'm a left tackle. People see
Speaker 1: a move. These tackles really want to play left tackle.
Speaker 1: It's like the sexy premier position I get. I guess
Speaker 1: that's a big part of because Jonah Williams before the
Speaker 1: draft said I do not want to move to guard.
Speaker 1: I only want to be drafted by a team that
Speaker 1: it's going to take me as a left tackle. The
Speaker 1: Bengals ended up doing that. Orlando Brown's the same way,
Speaker 1: where he did not want to play right tackle. He
Speaker 1: wanted to find a team that would play him there.
Speaker 1: I don't think Jonah Williams is going to have any
Speaker 1: trade market. He's due twelve point six million dollars guaranteed
Speaker 1: this year. He's coming off a dislocated kneecap in a
Speaker 1: bad year, so I think he might end up battling
Speaker 1: for that right tackle spot in the end because he
Speaker 1: might not have a choice. They're talking about keeping Lyle
Speaker 1: Collins and Williams and just having depth, which considering all
Speaker 1: the injuries, makes some sense. I love the move. I
Speaker 1: love the Bengals not standing pat, you know, and their
Speaker 1: offensive line was better last year, but it wasn't amazing,
Speaker 1: certainly not at left tackle. And I like that they
Speaker 1: found pretty good value too with the price deck Yeah,
Speaker 1: the contract. I love it for Cincinnati and it's like
Speaker 1: you knew we are looking at big money for Joe Burrow,
Speaker 1: for Jamar Chase, for t Higgins. But I love them
Speaker 1: pouring more money into the line because as much as
Speaker 1: they tried to do that last year, we saw the
Speaker 1: chaos that unfurled towards the end of the campaign when
Speaker 1: you lost a bunch of guys. So it's like, if
Speaker 1: you want to keep Lyle Collins, if you want to
Speaker 1: keep Orlando Brown, if Jonah Williams is untradeable, why not
Speaker 1: stack player on top of player and basically not allow
Speaker 1: for that to happen. To get depth, Yes, really this contract.
Speaker 1: Like I'm a little surprised they got him for this.
Speaker 1: I mean he turned down a much bigger offer, a longer,
Speaker 1: six year deal from the Chiefs. I wonder how he
Speaker 1: feels about all this. Well, you know, at least he
Speaker 1: has an agent, because the agents are infallible, they can't
Speaker 1: ever lose. Setting the table for for this scenario just
Speaker 1: saying yeah, the Chiefs. I think the offer was five
Speaker 1: for ninety one last year. It's very guaranteed and a
Speaker 1: little bit frontloaded, where it's really a three year, fifty
Speaker 1: million dollars deal, but basically the same type of deal
Speaker 1: Nate Solder got for the Giants about five years ago,
Speaker 1: So a little surprising. Are you going in the interest
Speaker 1: of fairness as a journalist? Are you going to when
Speaker 1: there are deals that seem player friendly, you're going to
Speaker 1: point out that the agent did a good job, um
Speaker 1: when their player friendly. Oh, I mean, I think I
Speaker 1: don't plan to be fair now, Okay, I mean, but
Speaker 1: like the guys that are out there now, Like the
Speaker 1: guys that are out there now, like a Chauncey Gardner
Speaker 1: Johnson for the most part or assaults, it's because they there,
Speaker 1: you don't have the value that they their expectations were,
Speaker 1: and so I think Orlando Brown probably had to pivot
Speaker 1: expectations were, but he did quite well in the end.
Speaker 1: This from Seth Walder, who's a good follow. He's with
Speaker 1: ESPN and their analytics department. John Williams Fyi's twenty five
Speaker 1: years old left tackle that has played for some big teams.
Speaker 1: But his pass block win rate last season amongst tackles
Speaker 1: have qualified fifty fifth of sixty four. His run block
Speaker 1: win rate, well, at least he's good at that note
Speaker 1: forty fourth of sixty four, So this is a potential
Speaker 1: big upgrade here for Cincinnati, and uh, we were just
Speaker 1: talking about it on our last show. It's like, hey, no, Angles,
Speaker 1: let's get yeah, let's do something that. This is a
Speaker 1: big move and it makes them potentially a lot better
Speaker 1: at really a vital, vital spot. Considering it felt like
Speaker 1: a lot of people were leaving Cincinnati. But where they
Speaker 1: stand right now, it's they've got their entire coaching staff
Speaker 1: coming back. You could have lost both coordinators that was
Speaker 1: in the mix, they didn't, and twenty one of twenty
Speaker 1: five starters and one of the new faces is Orlando Brown.
Speaker 1: That's a good point. Mark Jamar Chase te Higgins, Like, oh,
Speaker 1: there was talking about Higgins leaving. He's not leaving. Tyler Boyd,
Speaker 1: he hasn't left yet. Joe Mixon, I'm still waiting for
Speaker 1: that to possibly happen. But Sam J. P. Ryan's gone,
Speaker 1: and maybe they're gonna keep mixing after all, Layout Collins,
Speaker 1: like they did resign Jermaine Pratt. They need help in
Speaker 1: the secondary, so they have issues. But I really love
Speaker 1: this move, especially because I think it's going to help
Speaker 1: their ground game too. I mean, Orlando Brown, the rep
Speaker 1: on him is like good enough pass blocker, played really
Speaker 1: well in the Chiefs championship run. I think at the
Speaker 1: fans were upset some of the talk about them in
Speaker 1: the coaching staff maybe a little upset with Brown's play
Speaker 1: first half of the year. Awesome down the stretch, and
Speaker 1: I think they'll be able to run the ball better
Speaker 1: with him. And what does this mean for the Chiefs, Well,
Speaker 1: they've got Juwan Taylor. They gave him big money. The
Speaker 1: talk is that he's gonna play left tackle. I mean,
Speaker 1: he got possibly a better contract than Orlando Brown, which
Speaker 1: is a little surprised. I think he gets sixty million
Speaker 1: in his first three years, forty in the first two.
Speaker 1: But there is still this buzz that they might be
Speaker 1: in on Laramie Tunsil, and my god, if they find
Speaker 1: a way to afford Laramie Tunsil. So Juwan Taylor's at
Speaker 1: right tackle, Tounsil's at left. Wow, Yeah, I think it's
Speaker 1: Casey's time to make a move because the AFCs were
Speaker 1: talking about especially now you're gonna Rogers entering the picture.
Speaker 1: With the Jets. This is a really competitive conference. They
Speaker 1: lost Juan Thornhill was an important part of their secondary.
Speaker 1: Now they lose their left tackle, lost ju Ju I
Speaker 1: mean they need they need some things. Yeah, they've lost
Speaker 1: they lost both tackles to Andrew Wiley left. They do
Speaker 1: have Lucas Niang, who is a third round pick who's
Speaker 1: played for them, who I think they are probably looking
Speaker 1: at like Taylor replaces Brown and they'll they'll survive if
Speaker 1: they don't have to pick up a big name. But man,
Speaker 1: that would be amazing if they got tonsil Um. In
Speaker 1: other news, the defending NFC champion Eagles, it looks like
Speaker 1: Darius Slay was on his way out of town. It
Speaker 1: even was reported that that was what was going on
Speaker 1: a couple of days back. He went on to the
Speaker 1: top one o one and you know, in the top twenty,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if he ever technically was a
Speaker 1: free agent. Well, it all offends with him sticking with
Speaker 1: the Eagles on a two year, forty two million dollars
Speaker 1: extension through two thou and twenty five. So he stays there.
Speaker 1: And now you have Sleigh Bradberry together moving forward strung. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you I mean you also retain Brandon Graham, Fletcher Cox
Speaker 1: were a week removed. I think Rashad Penny, if he
Speaker 1: stays healthy, is an upgrade over Miles Sanders and could
Speaker 1: be in for like a monster season in that offense.
Speaker 1: So Howie Roseman, the Eagles, they always find a way,
Speaker 1: and you know, I there must be These are players
Speaker 1: that obviously we talked about the Nick Sirianni experience in
Speaker 1: that locker room, the way that the reason the players
Speaker 1: responded to him. It's like when you get guys coming
Speaker 1: back like this, it just tells me they believe in
Speaker 1: what's happening entirely, and why shouldn't they, But us essentially
Speaker 1: are running it back like what there could have been
Speaker 1: a massive sea chains for a new defensive coordinator Seawan
Speaker 1: to say. Instead, he's got a lot of the same
Speaker 1: faces and they do run similar elements to last year's defense.
Speaker 1: And you have two first round picks, which is nice.
Speaker 1: The number ten overall pick, Gardner Johnson is the one
Speaker 1: to see if they bring him back, then it really
Speaker 1: feels like everyone's coming back. And it sounds to me
Speaker 1: like it's Eagles or Broncos, which led by Sean Payton,
Speaker 1: Gardner Johnson's old coach, so he didn't have a problem
Speaker 1: with Gardner Johnson at one point in free agency. And
Speaker 1: this is dangerous. You know, the socials. Gardner Johnson just
Speaker 1: followed like nine or ten different Broncos and the Broncos
Speaker 1: organization and everyone got all excited. But he's still He's
Speaker 1: still unsigned to bread Grum though. I mean, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think he thought he was going maybe. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at because everybody loves Penny's potential. I'm just
Speaker 1: looking He started eighteen games in the list or play
Speaker 1: appeared in eighteen games in the last three years. They
Speaker 1: brought Scott back Boston Scott Kenny Gainewell played more snaps
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl and played quite well throughout those
Speaker 1: playoffs backfield, then Miles Sanders. So I think Gainwell is
Speaker 1: kind of their one A or one B, and that
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if they bring in someone too that
Speaker 1: was This is exactly what I'm talking about. I mean
Speaker 1: the Bay Street All Stars or wherever hell that is.
Speaker 1: I was. I was just disappointed um that it's on
Speaker 1: a New York City doesn't have verses. But then I
Speaker 1: got an idea. So I love challenging are listeners because
Speaker 1: they're very musically inclined many of well, some of them,
Speaker 1: but because they are a large pool to pick from.
Speaker 1: It seems like all of them of our listeners are
Speaker 1: musically inclined, but like five percent are and we have
Speaker 1: a lot of listeners people. That's exactly Cessler taking a
Speaker 1: shot at like Fred sitting in his basement. If unless
Speaker 1: you're a child with full streams, you know, if you're
Speaker 1: after O'Reilly took a shot from the book to top
Speaker 1: book depository. Now you got Fred taken heat. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm just sitting around talking about whistle all over town.
Speaker 1: I like ord musicians, Um, justin graver, can we provide
Speaker 1: our listeners access to this song in some way and
Speaker 1: then let them build out some verses, maybe a bridge
Speaker 1: getting back to the chorus. See why not, Let's see
Speaker 1: what we can do, all right, I'll post something first
Speaker 1: things First, they need to have the raw music to
Speaker 1: work off, right. All right, that's a fun little project.
Speaker 1: Drop that one in the lapse of those listeners. It
Speaker 1: did really bother you that there were no um really,
Speaker 1: that's just the chorus. The whole track is only one
Speaker 1: minute twelve seconds. So challenge to the listeners, that's see
Speaker 1: what you can do, right. It's basically here's the skeleton,
Speaker 1: do something with it. Right. Also, I was thinking why
Speaker 1: don't we have the listeners send in more Colleen Wolf songs?
Speaker 1: Open it up to what is it? The Aten podcast
Speaker 1: at Gmail? Maybe we should have another um so on competition. Patrick,
Speaker 1: to all the listeners out there making music for us,
Speaker 1: is you gotta make your own music? You can't steal
Speaker 1: an instrumental bad off the wet internet somewhere. We can't
Speaker 1: run those. But if you but if you make your
Speaker 1: own music and you submit us, that'll be awesome. Angry
Speaker 1: lawyers exactly, Just follow the copyright laws and we'll be
Speaker 1: all good, all right. The Giants signed wide receiver Paris Campbell,
Speaker 1: formerly of the Colts. One year, three million. You get
Speaker 1: up to seven million if he hits a bunch of incentives.
Speaker 1: He had a pretty nice season for the Colts, which
Speaker 1: is significant considering how terrible the Cults were last year
Speaker 1: um totaling sixty three catches for six hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: three yards and three touchdowns. That wasn't the only move
Speaker 1: the Giants made. They bring back Darius Slayton, who's flashed
Speaker 1: as a wide receiver for them. These aren't big time names.
Speaker 1: It does feel like Mark maybe the you know, giving
Speaker 1: giving Danny Dimes a true number one with Darren Waller
Speaker 1: there now we're cooking, but this is that's a pretty
Speaker 1: good crew with Sequan of course back in the fall. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they sit out there as like maybe crew. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's but they're missing like that guy that maybe you
Speaker 1: go trade for him, which I'm not sure who that
Speaker 1: would be right now, but I think this is a
Speaker 1: Giants want to get faster in general. I think at
Speaker 1: that position Paris Campbell runs a four point three one
Speaker 1: forty did it the combine? Um, he is a slot guy.
Speaker 1: But they have one deal Robinson as well, so there's
Speaker 1: a little bit of redundancy Sterling Shepherd. I mean, they
Speaker 1: have a lot of guys and they're going to see
Speaker 1: who works. Isaiah Hodgins is there these moves spelled out
Speaker 1: to me? Plus the reporting in New York that like
Speaker 1: they are not going to be in on OBJ period,
Speaker 1: they're not going to be spending that much on receivers
Speaker 1: that the Jets actually, according to Diana Rassini, have been
Speaker 1: in contact with OBJ. Well. It was demanded. We would
Speaker 1: assume that this was it was a demand made by
Speaker 1: the incoming quarterback that he might why not call him
Speaker 1: up and see what he will be fine. Yeah, I don't. Actually,
Speaker 1: I personally, I do think it's amazing to all the
Speaker 1: years we've done the show that you have to suddenly
Speaker 1: deal with the foil balls and the ups and downs
Speaker 1: of Aaron Rodgers personality and it O'Dell it feels and
Speaker 1: seven primetimes. I don't have demands. I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: really need Odell Beckham and Aaron Rodgers on this team, right,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna put out that. That's my personal You
Speaker 1: may not get what you need, but you may get it.
Speaker 1: Alan Lazar great, Keep Elijah More on the team, do
Speaker 1: not put it. Don't do not send Elijah More to
Speaker 1: Green Bay. I could see that happening. I don't do that.
Speaker 1: I think they have to. The Giants use their first
Speaker 1: round pick on a receiver, though, it's like, you're really
Speaker 1: gonna try out this group. Something's coming, I think, and
Speaker 1: and that's fine. They're at a spot in the draft,
Speaker 1: number twenty five. It's not a great receiver class, but
Speaker 1: there's probably like a four five pack of guys people like,
Speaker 1: depending on which flavor you like, who are all probably
Speaker 1: gonna go in the twenty or eighteen to thirty two area.
Speaker 1: So that feels like it because County on Darren Waller
Speaker 1: to be your number one. It feels like no. And
Speaker 1: I also like that Darius Tony trade to me just
Speaker 1: stands out as one of the They've been a pretty
Speaker 1: good team in terms of I think under Shane, like
Speaker 1: building the roster that to me never really worked. They
Speaker 1: couldn't get along with him. All right, let's pause right
Speaker 1: here and take a break. We'll be right back in
Speaker 1: other news. Matthew Stafford still makes sense to me and
Speaker 1: others that he might be traded somewhere to a team
Speaker 1: that's looking to win a Super Bowl, which doesn't feel
Speaker 1: like the Rams right now. However, the money tells us
Speaker 1: more and more that maybe he's not going anywhere. Because
Speaker 1: Thursday was a deadline day connected to his contract, and
Speaker 1: since he is on the roster still on Friday, fifty
Speaker 1: seven million fully guaranteed his thirty one million dollars base
Speaker 1: salary in twenty four also a twenty six million dollars
Speaker 1: option bonus now must be exercised. You know, it's a
Speaker 1: lot of cheddar for a guy coming off of spinal
Speaker 1: contusion and an elbow injury and entering his late thirties,
Speaker 1: But this is part of you know, the bill Come
Speaker 1: and Do for the rims. He's locked in. But the
Speaker 1: bill Come and Do is largely the bill that they
Speaker 1: were They ordered all the meals last year. Like there's
Speaker 1: there's an idea that this is all coming from these
Speaker 1: moves they made. No, they signed cup Stafford and Donald
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, and they signed him basically knowing
Speaker 1: they're going to have him three more years or else.
Speaker 1: And yeah, Stafford will be what turning thirty seven by
Speaker 1: the end of this deal. But if they were to
Speaker 1: trade him, I just like, because this is funny, if
Speaker 1: they were to trade him for some reason right now,
Speaker 1: they would have a trillion dollars. They would take a
Speaker 1: fifty four million they not even just the dead the
Speaker 1: dead money would be seventy four million, and they would
Speaker 1: have fifty four million dollars less available. So I think
Speaker 1: we can rule out the trade if it was going
Speaker 1: to happen, and I did actually ask around a little
Speaker 1: bit if it was, if there was any chance for
Speaker 1: it would have had to happen before this. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: money's in his banks. This basically ended it. Like, I
Speaker 1: think there was a chance that if he was going
Speaker 1: if someone really wanted him. You could move him before today,
Speaker 1: and it wou'd been in a different situation. He would
Speaker 1: have been a perfect sensible Jet pivot if Rogers last Friday,
Speaker 1: instead of saying Jets, I want to play with you,
Speaker 1: I don't want to play with you, or I'm going
Speaker 1: to retire. That would have made a lot of sense
Speaker 1: and the next six days would have been very interesting.
Speaker 1: Didn't happen, and I don't see like a natural dancing
Speaker 1: partner right now. I've been looking up down the list.
Speaker 1: I don't either. I think where I where I really
Speaker 1: liked it, and they can't do this unless they want
Speaker 1: to take that. You would get that. It'd be eighteen
Speaker 1: point five million dead money over this season in the
Speaker 1: next three if you could move him for a really
Speaker 1: high ransom price in August, if you lost a quarterback.
Speaker 1: I kept saying that with Jimmy g last year. But
Speaker 1: it's like if someone got super desperate and they were like,
Speaker 1: we are a super Bowl team, you could sell Matthew
Speaker 1: Stafford and as a concept and get something in back.
Speaker 1: I mean they are in rebuild mode. They're just not
Speaker 1: moving Matthew Stafford because you said build, why move away?
Speaker 1: I think It depends where it's not intentionally, just where
Speaker 1: it comes in the sentence. It was so nice when
Speaker 1: you said, Rubb build. I'll focus on that from here
Speaker 1: on out. I'll try to correct then. Sorry, God, you
Speaker 1: want to finish that. No, I'm kind of like, I think,
Speaker 1: I think, I don't. I think the rams like want
Speaker 1: to move on from all these dudes in a way
Speaker 1: and cut it down even deeper. They just can't. Sometimes
Speaker 1: the bit and the end of the take perfect symmetry, perfectly. Um,
Speaker 1: you know who else is looking to move on? The
Speaker 1: Vikings are? They seem like they're done with Dalvin Cook.
Speaker 1: They resigned running back Alexander Madison to a two year,
Speaker 1: seven million dollar contract. There's been a lot of reporting
Speaker 1: around from people that cover the Vikings that Minnesota would
Speaker 1: be open to moving Cook off the roster potentially be
Speaker 1: a release, but he has a shoulder surgery that was
Speaker 1: complicating things. But anyway, the pell raiser, I said, the
Speaker 1: pell raiser, where the raiser? Where's he based? Minnesota? I
Speaker 1: believe it's where he's been. That's been a lot of
Speaker 1: issue for us as well. It's not like he's walking
Speaker 1: around the NFL network offices where we could you know
Speaker 1: come up to him at the water cooler and we
Speaker 1: got your nickname? Do you want to hear what the
Speaker 1: major branding oportunity that we are literally doing the legwork
Speaker 1: on your behalf right? It is impossible to communicate with
Speaker 1: people who aren't face to face these days. Can't do
Speaker 1: it impossible. No technological advancements were made anyway. Pel rays
Speaker 1: are reported about the Madison deal and now we'll find
Speaker 1: out greg if Dalvin Cook is indeed heading the Vikings
Speaker 1: are in transition, there's no doubt about it. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: why more news is coming. Like the day luge of
Speaker 1: like daily podcasts in a huge waterfall is over. But
Speaker 1: like the Vikings are one team. I don't know what
Speaker 1: else is coming because I think a Cook releases coming.
Speaker 1: We know a Harrison Smith's gonna stay. There's a little
Speaker 1: bit of a surprise. So they did a nice job
Speaker 1: to take a haircut. He did. He did take a
Speaker 1: pay cut. Adam Field's a free agent, so he's expectedly.
Speaker 1: But there's some weird things bubbling here. Zadaria Smith wanted out.
Speaker 1: He's still there. Marcus Davenport, which was widely reported as
Speaker 1: signing with the Vikings, was not present with the rest
Speaker 1: of the free agents as they introduced him in Minnesota.
Speaker 1: So if you go to our lads dot com, uh,
Speaker 1: he's on the depth chart, but officially he is not
Speaker 1: on the Vikings And there's some talk of like maybe
Speaker 1: they have to make another move to make room for
Speaker 1: one Davenport or maybe it's one of those moves that
Speaker 1: changes as the week changes. It seems like they are
Speaker 1: one of the few teams that are really so close
Speaker 1: to the cap that like every move has to have
Speaker 1: an accompanying move with it. Harrison Smith said what there
Speaker 1: was reporting that he stayed out. He took a haircut
Speaker 1: because he was genuinely intrigued with Brian Flores and what
Speaker 1: he brings. He's also been there since two thousand Twelvey
Speaker 1: probably is like kids in school, who knows, you know
Speaker 1: what the statue. Maybe he also noticed the the NFL
Speaker 1: uh though that top thirty two rankings of team facilities
Speaker 1: and whatnot, Vikings number one on the list boom. One
Speaker 1: of the things people liked, h was all the free
Speaker 1: food they you know, I think that was pretty common
Speaker 1: was free food. But the facilities were very nice. But
Speaker 1: Byron Murphy, who came from Arizona signed there. Guys are millionaires,
Speaker 1: I know, but it does make a difference. You just
Speaker 1: the tuna fish sandwich is free. So I am taking
Speaker 1: a haircut to stay with the virus. I really just
Speaker 1: assume NFL cafeteria is provided food. It's just like a pain.
Speaker 1: You gotta go to the computer station. You gotta most
Speaker 1: teams swipe the cart and that to that point. Byron
Speaker 1: Murphy arrived from Arizona today and they asked them about
Speaker 1: that's the right thing, and he was and he said,
Speaker 1: well it's like and now it's all you can eat.
Speaker 1: He was like so happy living life that in Arizona
Speaker 1: he would have to pay for his lunch. Here all
Speaker 1: he gets dark. Elsewhere in the NFC North, the Bears
Speaker 1: entered free agency with a ton of money. They're spending it.
Speaker 1: They signed Donta Foreman, P J. Walker, and Robert Tanyan
Speaker 1: Bobby Tanyan. As they keep spending mark, I like Tanyan
Speaker 1: paired with cole Comet, you suddenly have DJ Moore, Darnell Mooney,
Speaker 1: Chase Claypool, Donta Foreman, Khalil Herbert, Like this is suddenly,
Speaker 1: and the Bears just went and did it. There are
Speaker 1: pieces of around justin fields, and they went and got
Speaker 1: the number one wide out when there may not be
Speaker 1: one in the draft that fits them. Andrew Billings was
Speaker 1: another defensive tackle who'll be a rotation guy for them.
Speaker 1: I'm just like counting the numbers they've signed the most
Speaker 1: people and the most potential starters. You could beat them
Speaker 1: in the falcon you can count five or six. And
Speaker 1: it was important, I think, to get p J Walker
Speaker 1: in the building because now you have the chance to
Speaker 1: bring back the greatest play of two thousand and twenty two.
Speaker 1: Jay Walker to DJ Moore. They traveled to Chicago together.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he loved the blazon. Do you have that?
Speaker 1: That would be a big ask, not handy. You're gonna
Speaker 1: site the play, right, I mean, let's listen to it. Z.
Speaker 1: I'm just making this up as I go at planning.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think definitely zz I can put it
Speaker 1: in the show and posting no one would ever know.
Speaker 1: St We're gonna leave all this in and then here
Speaker 1: is the play. Yeah. Three man takes the snap, drops back,
Speaker 1: rolls to its left. He's flushed loads up airs it
Speaker 1: deep down field for d J Moore behind his bed.
Speaker 1: How did that happen? Oh my goodness, touchdown, Caroline. This
Speaker 1: is amazing, jazz Man, great job, Grave. It was a
Speaker 1: great play. I remember that was a memorable moment from
Speaker 1: the season. Um, how in love you were with that play?
Speaker 1: Which was me? And it was also it was rolling
Speaker 1: left and threw it sixty seven yards to win the game.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, we don't p J. Walker's playing a lot.
Speaker 1: The bears are all right, let's hit some odds and ends,
Speaker 1: odd ends, odds and ends. Can everybody tell your friends?
Speaker 1: Is anyone else disturbed by that? It is starting to
Speaker 1: disturb something settling about it their track. I think that
Speaker 1: took it somewhere ominous. There's too many colleagues, feels now
Speaker 1: kind of like similar to like an ayahuasca trip and
Speaker 1: you're running through a forest and all these colleens are
Speaker 1: chasing you, and they all have knives, all of them.
Speaker 1: But it's almost Colleen's head on a doll's body chasing
Speaker 1: after you. Anybody else getting out? Yeah, and we were
Speaker 1: keeping you off the hallucinogenics during this watching Wednesday on Netflix.
Speaker 1: I should add that that has added that is the
Speaker 1: best thing about that show, Like from a plot standpoint,
Speaker 1: it's not really geared toward me. The lead performance is excellent,
Speaker 1: as I've stated, Uh, the actor is tremendous, but it's Burton.
Speaker 1: I know you're a real cinephile mark that Burton got
Speaker 1: at all. But I would say, I've watched the World
Speaker 1: makes the first two and a half episodes of Wednesday,
Speaker 1: and I'm with you. I think the show's uh got legs.
Speaker 1: Tim Burton Beetles, very rewatchable. Beetle just holds up. I
Speaker 1: would say I've seen it recently. I've actually not seen it,
Speaker 1: so I shouldn't. I'm not sure I've never That's number one.
Speaker 1: That's literally not my type of movie. So I like
Speaker 1: I went out of my way to notiss their hands.
Speaker 1: I could see maybe wun't say their hands ever. See
Speaker 1: Peewee's Big Adventure, his directorial debut, that I would say
Speaker 1: the classics that transcends Tim Burton, big Fish, a little
Speaker 1: bit of math here, a little molled Batman, he changed,
Speaker 1: I think tire World. Tim Burton's was that not Batman too.
Speaker 1: I believe like it was like he was an disaster.
Speaker 1: He ever a movie named ed Wood. You're thinking of
Speaker 1: who drove the Batman? Franchise, and I believe I believe
Speaker 1: Burton's Batman. I literally did not like from these sequel
Speaker 1: Batman too. At least the original he did. The original
Speaker 1: was great. I have no problem with the original. Like
Speaker 1: I'm not saying, it's just like, you don't tag me
Speaker 1: as a Tim Burton guy, which happens on this shows,
Speaker 1: Like I am, I'm forcibly telling you you're as Tim
Speaker 1: Burton guy. We could have gone and I got you know. Sometimes, yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you? Jin Batman Returns is very dark. It's like,
Speaker 1: why can't we get a show under seventy seven minutes? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Where are you Burton heads out there? Comfort me? I
Speaker 1: don't want to hear about it. By the way, Cooper
Speaker 1: Rush is back with the Cowboys. That's good. You like
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush. Devin Bush a linebacker, and Julian Love the
Speaker 1: safety to the Seahawks. They've been very active and they
Speaker 1: had a lot of pretty good like under the radar
Speaker 1: cheap moves are the Seahawks? I love that question. The
Speaker 1: Dolphins bringing old friend Braxton Barrios. He is all over
Speaker 1: the afcast and then now it's signed from Miami. The
Speaker 1: Steelers cut ties with Miles Jack the former second round
Speaker 1: pick of Jacksonville who's now bouncing around a little bit.
Speaker 1: And uh, that is well. They they signed to London
Speaker 1: Roberts too. The Steelers because you don't have Devin Bush,
Speaker 1: you don't have Miles Jack, so you're kind of starting
Speaker 1: over at the position. Dolphins also got a old Patriots
Speaker 1: probo hunter jack Jake Bailey, who had fallen on hard times.
Speaker 1: A lot of receivers there. I could see Braxton Barrio
Speaker 1: us having like one big moment in Miami. I liked
Speaker 1: Wris He's a charismatic guy. He also had the biggest
Speaker 1: drop of the season for New York in the end
Speaker 1: zone on fourth down in Minnesota. Now that's part of
Speaker 1: the package with Mike White playing his guts out in
Speaker 1: that game and cost him that game and they never
Speaker 1: recovered after that. But I hope he does well. He's
Speaker 1: like their fourth receiver. You got Cedric Wilson there too.
Speaker 1: All right, before we take a break, let's check in
Speaker 1: with some best of moments from the opening press conferences
Speaker 1: across our league, starting with Jordan Poyer, who resigned with
Speaker 1: the Bills. I know I said some stuff about the taxes.
Speaker 1: I think we can all agree that We're like, what
Speaker 1: the hell? Like, Yes, I mean sorry, I said it.
Speaker 1: I said, I said the truth. I like that. How
Speaker 1: about Jalen Ramsey on the thoughts that he slipped a
Speaker 1: little bit on the field as a player in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two. You gotta cut on the field now, yeah, really,
Speaker 1: you gotta really watch it. You gotta really watch it.
Speaker 1: You know, you know, you don't become this successful, you know,
Speaker 1: without actually doing good things on that field. How about
Speaker 1: Jacoby Myers, now wide receiver of the Raiders, talking about
Speaker 1: a very infamous play with the Patriots at the Raiders
Speaker 1: home field and last year, you know the one I'll
Speaker 1: be the guy that addresses the question about what happened
Speaker 1: here last year. I was waiting on that. I was
Speaker 1: waiting waiting on thank you. I appreciate you, man, Thank
Speaker 1: you take us through you know, your thoughts about your teammates.
Speaker 1: You're already giving you a little bit of crap about
Speaker 1: it and how Portance view to create new memories in
Speaker 1: Las Vegas story. I mean, now that that was a
Speaker 1: that was a humbling experience, you know, as a man,
Speaker 1: as a football player, that was that was just tough.
Speaker 1: You know, I knew what it meant to the team
Speaker 1: that I was on at the time, and so it
Speaker 1: really hurt me because, like I said, family is really
Speaker 1: big for me. So when I went through it in
Speaker 1: the moment, my heart was broken, you know. But days after,
Speaker 1: just seeing how guy's kind of rather around me, it
Speaker 1: built me up as a person. So now I know, like,
Speaker 1: whenever one of my teammates mess up, who I want
Speaker 1: to be in that situation. You know, that's a good answer.
Speaker 1: That's a qualities I'm seeing you have a you're a
Speaker 1: tough situation and you turn it into something positive. That's
Speaker 1: sort of I view then of integrity. Absolutely. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: I loved Jacobe Myers. Was sad to see him go. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think he's maybe a better player than jujusmis Schuster,
Speaker 1: But whatever. How about Alan Lazard, new wide receiver of
Speaker 1: the Jets and an ongoing weird situation doing a press
Speaker 1: conference talking about a guy a quarterback that isn't actually
Speaker 1: on his team right now. But it is a strange
Speaker 1: situation leverage gate. But they didn't seem like they were
Speaker 1: going to miss me too much, had a strong inclination
Speaker 1: that I was going to be my last season. Then interesting,
Speaker 1: that's all a little interesting Lazard. We still haven't seen
Speaker 1: all the specifics, but got at least like an equal
Speaker 1: contract to any wide receiver. He does have the trace
Speaker 1: a lot. He looks like a number one receiver, but
Speaker 1: the numbers aren't any better than than Jacoby Myers. It
Speaker 1: might have been in the man sheet. He may him
Speaker 1: the highest paid his Packers players feeling like the team's
Speaker 1: not into them while they're playing for them. Not a
Speaker 1: good thing, not a great set. How about Derek Carr,
Speaker 1: new face of the New Orleans Saints. I just want
Speaker 1: to provide um, you know, leadership, you know someone that's
Speaker 1: gonna love their teammates. I'm not coming in here to
Speaker 1: try and take anything over. Like I'm not taking anything over.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be me and I'll block you on Twitter
Speaker 1: if you say anything against what I believe about. Well, No,
Speaker 1: I just a little little sensitive. Mins. I think you
Speaker 1: hate Derek Carr. I do not at all. I think
Speaker 1: actually I gave him appropriately immense credit for I handled
Speaker 1: two seasons go with the Raiders. They did him wrong,
Speaker 1: and I wish him well. But there's something about the
Speaker 1: Derek cart the podium thing that I find a little
Speaker 1: bit artificial. At Ton I just double check them. I
Speaker 1: doubt he was like on top of my top one
Speaker 1: of one rankings, but I was worried after ranking Dana Jones.
Speaker 1: I think ahead of him one spot. But no, it's
Speaker 1: not blocked. Still, he's like that guy that played Elvis
Speaker 1: in the movie Austin Butler. Austin Butler, where it's like,
Speaker 1: where is this accent coming from? Is this how you talk?
Speaker 1: Is this an affect Derek Carr? Well, no, in the movie, yeah,
Speaker 1: he does the Elvis voice, and then he started doing
Speaker 1: the press junkets Butler, I feel like I'm talking a
Speaker 1: lot Hollywood lately, um, and he kept the Elvis accent.
Speaker 1: And then people started pulling junkets pre Elvis and he
Speaker 1: talks like a regular dude. And then they pulled the
Speaker 1: post Elvis shoot and now he talks like he lives
Speaker 1: in Graceland. Well, I mean, yeah, I think that he
Speaker 1: got Well there's that. There's Brian Kelly who did that
Speaker 1: when he went to LSU. He's like Carr's accent. You
Speaker 1: think it's fake. I think there's some type of where
Speaker 1: is he from? Like Central California is kind of a
Speaker 1: different place. I don't know what the accents are like there,
Speaker 1: but it's it's different sometimes like that one was a
Speaker 1: little toned down. But sometimes he'll have like a twang
Speaker 1: in his voice and it's like, where are you from? Bro? Well,
Speaker 1: it would be nice to see him traded to like
Speaker 1: the Northeast at some point and then he can adapts
Speaker 1: a a'san Bakersfield I think is very set up shop. Okay.
Speaker 1: And finally we have Orlando Brown, new left tackle of
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals. Just, you know, for him to believe
Speaker 1: in me as a left tackle was enough and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, man, I'm willing to put my life on
Speaker 1: a lot for that. Boom. Now I feel good about
Speaker 1: that guy. Yeah, these guys want to play the position
Speaker 1: that they were born to play. He was really making
Speaker 1: me laugh talking about how he met with Marvin Lewis
Speaker 1: and the pre draft process. Supposedly the Bengals were going
Speaker 1: to take him potentially, that's what a lot of people thought.
Speaker 1: And he mentioned some memories of that process, including when
Speaker 1: Marvin Lewis asked him what the capital of Spain was
Speaker 1: and his answer was Portugal and he says, I really blew,
Speaker 1: I really blew that one. He always wondered if that's
Speaker 1: why he didn't get drafted by the Bengals. I don't
Speaker 1: think that question. What is the capital of Spain? But Rids? Okay, Oh,
Speaker 1: one more Jimmy g on how coming to the Raiders
Speaker 1: affects him from a sartorial sense. It's really cool. It
Speaker 1: really is. Uh, just get to wear black, all black.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's one of the coolest parts of it.
Speaker 1: I think. I know it sounds cliche, and I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what. He did look good in black and that
Speaker 1: opening pressor there's a chefter put out a you know,
Speaker 1: a picture of him with like his amazing suit and
Speaker 1: like holding the Raiders jersey, and he his whole countenance
Speaker 1: in the way that his hair is done, in the
Speaker 1: shades of his hair and everything. It kind of just
Speaker 1: all fits. Not on it's going to fit on the field,
Speaker 1: but like he looks good and that Raiders get up. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: You know, we were debating if we have different feelings
Speaker 1: about Jimmy ju I mean that had the little logo
Speaker 1: on it. Look that would make more sense, but it
Speaker 1: was it did all look very Raiders esque, and I
Speaker 1: think he had the look down and you know, Daddy
Speaker 1: likes Mommy. Daddy doesn't like daddy. But I could tell
Speaker 1: you that, man. Thanks, Yeah, I yeah, I just I
Speaker 1: think I see him as like I don't. Everyone seems
Speaker 1: to think he's a little hotter than I think he is,
Speaker 1: but who am I to judge? Thank you, daddy. All right,
Speaker 1: let's take a break and throw out some moves that
Speaker 1: would make sense. The National Football League's free agency period
Speaker 1: is underway, and now we, as analysts of the sport,
Speaker 1: are here to offer sensible transactions for those with a
Speaker 1: refined palette in such matters. What does that mean? I'm
Speaker 1: not sure. I think what I mean is I don't
Speaker 1: just go with look at what the team, the teams that,
Speaker 1: what they've done so far, what are still who's available
Speaker 1: or potentially available? What makes sense fiscally? Let's make the
Speaker 1: listen and they're smarter, Greg, And that's why I were
Speaker 1: starting with you. No, I think we should start with
Speaker 1: you because sometimes with these segments, I don't even totally
Speaker 1: know that there's going to be beautiful classical music and sensibility,
Speaker 1: and I feel like I want my leader, my host,
Speaker 1: my co host, Oh you always happen almost happening to
Speaker 1: show me where he's going with this, all right, you
Speaker 1: could take it down now, all right, I'll throw it
Speaker 1: out there, A sensible transaction for those with a refined
Speaker 1: positional palette. The New England Patriots, all right, what have
Speaker 1: they done so far? We talked about they decided to
Speaker 1: move on from m Jacoby Myers. And you know you
Speaker 1: don't think that had anything to do with the play,
Speaker 1: do you? No? No, no, right, no, But it was
Speaker 1: so embarrassing for Bill. Do you think there's part of
Speaker 1: him that would be like, I can't have anything that
Speaker 1: reminds me of that around me. Ever? Again, no, I
Speaker 1: didn't sense it with this particular player. But who wouldn't
Speaker 1: I mean out there? I mean, did did they get
Speaker 1: rid of Ellis Hobbs after he gave up that touchdown
Speaker 1: to Plextico Burris in the Super Bowl? Maybe I did
Speaker 1: keep Rodney around. I mean, there's been some embarrassing moments
Speaker 1: that would be justin after the pick six Tennessee Titans
Speaker 1: in the AFC Wildcard playoffs. Tom Brady wasn't around no
Speaker 1: more after that? Who had that pick six? I know,
Speaker 1: you know, justin Logan Ryan, who went to play with
Speaker 1: Tom Brady in Tampa Bay, Oh, interesting. That was the
Speaker 1: friend where he was going to the puppy farm every
Speaker 1: week with the daughters. Yeah, Logan, Ryan's a big charity
Speaker 1: revolving around saving and he's like, and I never told
Speaker 1: anybody about that until I retired and then we needed
Speaker 1: some puff pieces about post retirement. Now it was I
Speaker 1: am as a man. It was Ryan's wife who did it.
Speaker 1: See now you're just making up fact. It was Logan
Speaker 1: Ryan's wife who did that. Sounds good kind person. He
Speaker 1: was playing the long game on the puppy He just
Speaker 1: knew that he would do that. It was gonna get
Speaker 1: out eventually. It's Tom Brady at a puppy mill. You're
Speaker 1: just sitting on it, so I'm not He's not gonna
Speaker 1: say it, but he knows eventually we'll get out and
Speaker 1: they'll be like and Tom never even said anything about it.
Speaker 1: It's like a double win anyway. Um So the Patriots
Speaker 1: they have Juju in the building. They have Bill O'Brien
Speaker 1: as the oc U. Mccarkell Jones is back at quarterback.
Speaker 1: Mike Gasecki is signed the tight former tight end of
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. That is definitely somebody that can make up
Speaker 1: play with the ball in his hands. Um, But there's
Speaker 1: something missing here and I mentioned on the last show,
Speaker 1: but now I'm going to play it. And thank you
Speaker 1: to HBO NFL Films. This was a pregame conversation between
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick and a certain former All Pro wide receiver
Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. Glad we only have to play
Speaker 1: you every four years. Man, Hello, you kind of career,
Speaker 1: your out miss half the season is still gonna be
Speaker 1: the league and receiving this. I gonna do my job, man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: better he's gonna like that one. I do love as
Speaker 1: as Belichick ages, and as I age, I do love
Speaker 1: Bill more and more. I think him not going to
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl every year is helping as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: being like a walking eight and nine is helping. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that I think there's something to take out of that.
Speaker 1: That was this past season and now they need a
Speaker 1: number one ride receiver to kind of cap off this
Speaker 1: like reboot of the offense. It makes so much sense
Speaker 1: for the Pats to send you know, second third round
Speaker 1: pick maybe a second uh to bring in new Copkins
Speaker 1: and then once you have Nuke in there, Greggy, I think,
Speaker 1: as Pats fan, you're really feeling pretty good. Then you're
Speaker 1: looking at the roster and you're saying, there's my number one.
Speaker 1: Juju is a perfect versatile kind of two number two
Speaker 1: guy you have. Now you're gonna have Gasecki, who can
Speaker 1: make plays at tight end, and you trust the play
Speaker 1: calling with O'Brien and his comfortable in the system and
Speaker 1: knows Belichick and what he wants. And then you're saying
Speaker 1: Mac Jones year three, make that leap. Yeah, you still
Speaker 1: have Hunter Henry two. So Gasecki I think at what
Speaker 1: something like four or five million a bass salary, we
Speaker 1: haven't totally learned in some intensives, like he's a second guy.
Speaker 1: You get DeVante Parker off the roster. Basically, DeAndre Hopkins
Speaker 1: is a much better version to me of DeVante Parker
Speaker 1: who's still there. Taekwon Thornton had some speed, second round
Speaker 1: pick Kendrick Bourdon sitting around. Yeah, I don't think that
Speaker 1: would be their big weakness. And I totally agree. They
Speaker 1: can't draft receivers. They're famous for burning their second round
Speaker 1: picks year after year. It's just been like a bad
Speaker 1: luck round for them. Let's just use it on a guy,
Speaker 1: you know, we'll have one or two years. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: there's a little fly in the ointment though, because first
Speaker 1: of all, I think, like Mike Kisiki was recruited by
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien to play at Penn State, so I see
Speaker 1: why that fit happens, like as an upgrade over Johnny Smith.
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien did not end things well with DeAndre Hopkins
Speaker 1: trained into Arizona. I mean, I'm sure all that stuff
Speaker 1: that can be pretty much fixed. But yeah, but is
Speaker 1: it going to stop a deal? Well, I don't think
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien's gonna stop a deal, but I just I
Speaker 1: think also that it really really fits. And I mean,
Speaker 1: I think when Billichick likes a player, it goes back
Speaker 1: to when he scouted him, probably before the draft process,
Speaker 1: and he admires some of these guys so much that
Speaker 1: I think it still would be true. But the Bill
Speaker 1: O'Brien thing is just sitting out there as something that
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins might think about sensible that that could be
Speaker 1: a fly in the ointment. But I would think Belichick,
Speaker 1: I mean, who would you rather have Greg, DeAndre Hopkins,
Speaker 1: or Bill O'Brien as an offensive coordinator? You already had
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien. Well, I'm just saying like Bill's playing chess here.
Speaker 1: If he was looking at my offseason plan and he's like,
Speaker 1: I want Nuke on my team, would he bring in
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien if you thought that that would Nuke a
Speaker 1: chance to get Nuke. I don't mean these guys can
Speaker 1: make it up with one conversation and move on. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's playing mousetrap. With the way
Speaker 1: he hired his offense to the coordinator last year, I'm
Speaker 1: starting to wonder, But trap, I don't trying to think
Speaker 1: of a very basic game. Actually it does talk a
Speaker 1: lot of work setting up Tiddley wins. That's Pong Pongo
Speaker 1: mouse trap. Half the fun was, you know, putting all
Speaker 1: the pieces together. Then then it became less. It's more like,
Speaker 1: but you're going through the motions. I like that, all right,
Speaker 1: that move sensible, I think for a refined pal Okay, now,
Speaker 1: and I didn't know if you were going to like
Speaker 1: extend the whole thing, I would give your heads up.
Speaker 1: This is this is all about ball, Okay. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: talk about the Denver Broncos and their receiver situation. When
Speaker 1: a team puts receivers on the market, in this case,
Speaker 1: Jerry Judy and or Courtland Sutton. Interesting that it's like
Speaker 1: either or like, yeah, that doesn't happen. History tells us
Speaker 1: eventually that guy's getting moved. It's like Darren Waller on
Speaker 1: the market last trade deadline, eventually got moved. And now
Speaker 1: we're here in reports. Well, the Broncos were just getting
Speaker 1: offers from other people, and now they're thinking they wanted
Speaker 1: a first round pick, plus they're gonna hold on. Just
Speaker 1: put a pin in this. Let's come back around draft
Speaker 1: time and let's make a trade for Jerry Judy, who
Speaker 1: doesn't have a long term, guaranteed salary like Courtland Sutton.
Speaker 1: So I think is a little more tradeable, and there's
Speaker 1: a host of teams that could put them on. The
Speaker 1: Cowboys would be flashy, but you know who needs them
Speaker 1: even more and still plays in the NFL. How about
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers. You just traded your best receiver in
Speaker 1: DJ More. Your number one receiver right now is Teras Marshall.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to play football. And I think Jerry
Speaker 1: Judy can fit a timeline of a young team getting better.
Speaker 1: He's still younger. Let's send a I don't know, a
Speaker 1: second round it makes a ton of sense. They're now
Speaker 1: the team without the number one, and like I thought,
Speaker 1: the Browns are a target. They are missing some people
Speaker 1: at that position, and it's like, what did you do
Speaker 1: all this for? If you're not gonna like surround to
Speaker 1: Shaun Watson with a ton of weapons. They don't have
Speaker 1: a lot of wide receiver, but I think the Patriots
Speaker 1: thing with Andre Hopkins doesn't happen, Like one of these
Speaker 1: Bronchos wideouts might work there as well. It's like, I'm
Speaker 1: so with you that the Broncos, I don't care what
Speaker 1: they're saying. They have broadcast it strongly that these guys,
Speaker 1: like I didn't Courtland Sun just doesn't really fit what
Speaker 1: Sean Payton wants to Sun degree. It's like we're moving
Speaker 1: these dudes. Maybe Sutton would be the guy that they
Speaker 1: do move. And I know the Panthers just traded away
Speaker 1: a bunch of picks. They do have their first, they
Speaker 1: do have a second and a third, so they're not
Speaker 1: crazy short. But the Cowboys are another team here that
Speaker 1: would make some sense to wait it out. Doesn't seem
Speaker 1: they're ready to get obj. I have my second one
Speaker 1: is directly connected, so I'll just do it real quick.
Speaker 1: I all said, Judy. I want to see Judy move
Speaker 1: to a team where we could cash in on his potential,
Speaker 1: which I still think is very high, and it's been
Speaker 1: almost entirely untapped. Injuries of play a role, but a
Speaker 1: lot of quarterback dysfunction and organizational dysfunction as well. Since
Speaker 1: he was in the first round pick. I remember it
Speaker 1: was him and Henry Ruggs in that draft that were
Speaker 1: you know, the buzzy wide receiver has taken up top
Speaker 1: and we know everything that went down with Rugs and
Speaker 1: Judy has been disappointing overall. I was looking at the
Speaker 1: Bills as a team that yeah, we've been talking about
Speaker 1: like how do you give how do you take Josh
Speaker 1: Allen now with Brian dabele gun and you put too
Speaker 1: much on his shoulders and you add some more around him.
Speaker 1: And we've talked about Derek Henry and I don't know
Speaker 1: what's going on with Henry and people connected Sequan to
Speaker 1: the Bills, and so far it's been pretty quiet. I
Speaker 1: know Isaiah McKenzie was let go this week. Judy and
Speaker 1: Judy being unlocked by a talent like Josh Allen with
Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs on the field with him is very very
Speaker 1: exciting thought. So that's it's sensible, but also some wishcasting
Speaker 1: because I do want to see what Judy could do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like it a lot because I think like Judy
Speaker 1: could suddenly have one of these seasons where it's like,
Speaker 1: well that was a situation where Denver went through all
Speaker 1: this chaos, so we didn't see the player. I can
Speaker 1: see that. But I'll think if you're the Bills, it's
Speaker 1: like you are you view yourself. It's like this season
Speaker 1: right now is super Bowl or bust? Like that guy
Speaker 1: you get because they do eat that wide and I
Speaker 1: think like has to be rock solid. I just it
Speaker 1: seems like a little bit of a you're hoping he'd
Speaker 1: be that guy. You'd hope he'd fit. He wouldn't be
Speaker 1: a disappointment. I mean they could be in for any
Speaker 1: of the big names. Is one of those. Uh, there's
Speaker 1: some thoughts Odell Beckham might not want to play in
Speaker 1: somewhere that cold. I'm I'm with that. Let's make decisions
Speaker 1: on warmth. I'm with him. You know that's who I want.
Speaker 1: Those are the Warriors I want. Oh, it's blow fifty.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna try. It's hard. I mean, if you've
Speaker 1: made your money though, like where you live. I think
Speaker 1: I think that matters. You know, short an NFL career
Speaker 1: is greg he they have like ten years, even the
Speaker 1: great guys, maybe twelve or thirteen to give it there.
Speaker 1: I want twenty million, but it must be in a
Speaker 1: tropical environment like it's usually a bit of a red flag. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, I got one for you here. I mean
Speaker 1: this this final chip to fall as Lamar Jackson, and
Speaker 1: I think about what happened back on March twenty eighth,
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty four, when the Baltimore cults in the middle
Speaker 1: of the night. We always heard about this, you know,
Speaker 1: when we were young in the early eighties, Like Mayflower
Speaker 1: Truck exactly, you pack up the trucks you moved to Indianapolis.
Speaker 1: Baltimore is left out in the cold. Well, I don't
Speaker 1: that doesn't help the two teams like each other anymore.
Speaker 1: But what if we have the odd poetical move of
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens trading Lamar Jackson to the quarterback needy
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts, who signed Gardner Minshew clearly as a backup
Speaker 1: and have done nothing else. They're sitting at number four.
Speaker 1: You can give the Ravens that number four pickback and
Speaker 1: they'll probably want a quarterback. But my one thing about
Speaker 1: the Cults sit at number four and doing nothing is
Speaker 1: I think you got hop scotched by Carolina. They're obviously
Speaker 1: going with their guy. Then Houston's going with their a guy.
Speaker 1: Arizona is a ripe team to trade that number three
Speaker 1: if someone else wanted to get up against the Cult.
Speaker 1: Suddenly you are Chris Ballard once again looking at the
Speaker 1: fourth best guy on the draft board. What you have
Speaker 1: Shane Steiken, who already did a great job with Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 1: You've got other pieces around him. I think there's a
Speaker 1: lot to like about the idea of Lamar Jackson staying
Speaker 1: in the AFC, going to a team like Indianapolis that
Speaker 1: is absolutely going to appreciate them after what they've been
Speaker 1: through since Andrew Luck retired. It gives them an immediate
Speaker 1: identity they can found an entire offense around him, and
Speaker 1: Shane Styken makes so much more sense to me with
Speaker 1: that situation than trying to start over with the fourth
Speaker 1: best rookie in this draft class. Shane Styken's really rocketed
Speaker 1: up like the reputation rankings, just for me personally, just
Speaker 1: listening to the impact that he's had with everyone that
Speaker 1: he's worked with, and I don't think it's just smoke
Speaker 1: being talked. I would love that. Give me somebody, what's
Speaker 1: going on with lamar Keith? Is there a better fit
Speaker 1: than Indianapolis? We heard I heard um a little bit
Speaker 1: of buzz through an unnamed Diano reporter that just like, okay,
Speaker 1: just keep keep an eye. And but it's an eye.
Speaker 1: I know that there's some some something buzzing, but the
Speaker 1: fact that no one is reporting any that nothing is
Speaker 1: reportable out there is shocking. I think one thing that
Speaker 1: has changed in terms of how everyone is dissecting potential trade.
Speaker 1: Initially and it was like, oh, they put the non
Speaker 1: exclusive tag on them, which means whoever is gonna they'll
Speaker 1: do they will do the contract and then the Ravens
Speaker 1: can decide, and if they decide they don't want to
Speaker 1: do that contract, they'll send the two picks. It's just
Speaker 1: as much just as likely, if not more so, that
Speaker 1: it's just more a traditional trade. And in the case
Speaker 1: of the cults, it's a perfect example because if they're
Speaker 1: giving you the number four pick. They're probably gonna be like,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna give you another number one after that.
Speaker 1: We'll give you a one and maybe a two and
Speaker 1: maybe a two the next year. But calm down about
Speaker 1: getting two number ones office if we're giving you a
Speaker 1: top five. Yeah, I think that. I think it works
Speaker 1: for both sides. And that's why I initially thought, maybe,
Speaker 1: like what if the Texans at with that number two
Speaker 1: pick and they weren't in love with a rookie. They
Speaker 1: were the kind of team that could go after Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson and reboot everything and they've got it the whole.
Speaker 1: That kind of fits. You could be Baltimore and say,
Speaker 1: I don't want two ones from a team sitting down
Speaker 1: in the twenties. I want, like the chance to get
Speaker 1: another quarterback to rob put like Lamar Jackson in the
Speaker 1: rear view mirror, starting right now, sensible, Mark, I'd like
Speaker 1: to think, so find Yeah, Greg, you have another one.
Speaker 1: I'm tapped, So I do. I think that Odell to
Speaker 1: the Cowboys is so obvious that it feels destined. It
Speaker 1: feels like it was destined years ago, and yet it
Speaker 1: feels so necessary. They've invested on the defense. But I'm
Speaker 1: gonna throw a different Odell location. I don't think there's
Speaker 1: that many, and I really do think he can make
Speaker 1: a difference as a quality two slash one somewhere in between.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna get that twenty million. Hey, Lanta Falcons,
Speaker 1: you gotta go win some ballgames this year. Who do
Speaker 1: you got a wide receiver? You got Drake Lendon. Great job,
Speaker 1: nice pick. Nice job by you, or of like a
Speaker 1: physical red zone sideline guy. Very different. I think in
Speaker 1: type to Odell Beckham. It's warm in Atlanta. That's important.
Speaker 1: Play indoor roof. You play indoors, but it's warm when
Speaker 1: you go outside too. Because I liked the Green Bay
Speaker 1: idea for Odell just to be like, hey Rogers, now
Speaker 1: we got Odell. Eat it. But I don't think he
Speaker 1: would want to go there. Um Chick fil A closing
Speaker 1: the stadium on Sundays, but it's open the rest of
Speaker 1: the Yeah, Um, Odell to the Falcons. Just your number
Speaker 1: two receiver right now, by the way, is twenty twenty one,
Speaker 1: second round, sixth round pick, Frank Darby. I think outside
Speaker 1: you know you don't have a receiver. I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to slight mister Darby. He's the only one that's been
Speaker 1: drafted by this regime that's on the roster other than
Speaker 1: So that's all. That's all I say. Sorry, sorry, missus Darby.
Speaker 1: You know, the past two seasons on this podcast, I've
Speaker 1: been pushing against Atlanta when you guys have pumped them up,
Speaker 1: but they just don't excite me, even though it's not
Speaker 1: against Arthur Smith. It just they haven't seemed ready. This
Speaker 1: is the year where it feels like they should be
Speaker 1: ready to make a move exactly, and I'm just so
Speaker 1: like annoyed that they're really gonna go Desmond Ritter and
Speaker 1: Taylor Heineke. Hypothetically that's what year three all in Falcons
Speaker 1: is and then we're gonna go get Odell Beckham at
Speaker 1: age thirty. Man, that's better than not getting him. How
Speaker 1: about how about get a quarterback? How about you go
Speaker 1: get Smith? I mean, that's not too exciting. You did
Speaker 1: get some defensive pieces. I like they brought back Lorenzo
Speaker 1: Carter for cheap, Anya mad As a nice signing, Jesse
Speaker 1: Bates like Kaden ellis okay. You also changes a little
Speaker 1: bit and at the Falcons get back into that. I
Speaker 1: think that there was this obviously opening bubble where no
Speaker 1: one was in on this guaranteed money situation. And then
Speaker 1: like a team gets back in like the Falcons, they've
Speaker 1: got a trap again, feel great about then I'd feel
Speaker 1: great about the Falcons. But if this is how it's
Speaker 1: gonna go down, and then I'm supposed to get excited
Speaker 1: about this team because Beckham, off his second ACL reconstruction
Speaker 1: at age thirty after missing a year, is going to
Speaker 1: be the guy that unlocks Desmond Ritter. You know it's suspicious.
Speaker 1: Go sell to somebody. Yeah, that's all back after this, No, um,
Speaker 1: anything else. I got a couple of like ideas, we
Speaker 1: don't deduct delve deep in them. I will say one
Speaker 1: thing that Brandon Bean, because we talked about the Bills
Speaker 1: adding like a rock solid we know what we get here,
Speaker 1: said that the team has right now just James Cook
Speaker 1: and Niheim Hines under contract, that they want to add
Speaker 1: a heavier power style running back to the roster. How
Speaker 1: about Derek Henry for a I'll say even a third.
Speaker 1: I think you can get them for maybe a fourth,
Speaker 1: but a third and bang, you suddenly have an offense
Speaker 1: that can destroy people in cold weather. Um. I like
Speaker 1: this one too as a little just a couple of
Speaker 1: quick ideas. If the Lions wanted to start over a
Speaker 1: little bit with like, we know, there's this whole Jared
Speaker 1: Goff thing. I thought he played great last year. But
Speaker 1: what if they went and got Lamar Jackson and sent
Speaker 1: Jared Goff to the Ravens. There's that? How about this
Speaker 1: the Packers The minute they get rid of Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: the sensibility arrows going, that's not that crazy because they
Speaker 1: have the ammunition number one and they've got in the
Speaker 1: deal to the raven Okay, I mean, I don't think
Speaker 1: you keep Jared recern situation. You're discerning his mood. You
Speaker 1: don't keep Jerry sad if Goff kept getting traded for
Speaker 1: quarterbacks like that are way better than him. Also totally appropriate.
Speaker 1: It's like thirty million what is he making this year?
Speaker 1: On Green Bay Packers? After Aaron Rodgers, they they stick
Speaker 1: it to him by getting active in free agency. They
Speaker 1: signed Dalton Schultz to replace Robert Tonyan. They don't have
Speaker 1: a lot of tight end right now. And you make
Speaker 1: a trade to a Bucks team that's looking at dump guys,
Speaker 1: you get Mike Evans, Dalton Schultz. You've got the cap ram,
Speaker 1: You've got the picks. I think it's very possible. I
Speaker 1: also like Adam feel into the Patriots. It just kind
Speaker 1: of fits, I thought, because he's white. Basically. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was the same thing. Like Andrew van Ginkel visited him
Speaker 1: as thrade and people are like, oh, that's a Patriots move,
Speaker 1: and it's like, just say it. Yeah, well we're saying it.
Speaker 1: I thought the whites are at it again. I thought
Speaker 1: David staying in Tampa's potentially a sign that Mike Evans
Speaker 1: will as well. I think Davis just wants to retire
Speaker 1: as a buck. Uh. They might be in the nine
Speaker 1: to eight and everything is great club as well this year. Oh,
Speaker 1: they would love them some nine and eight if they
Speaker 1: could get there. They did keep a lot of their players,
Speaker 1: U Jamal Dean, I was surprised ended up staying there
Speaker 1: for the most part. They kind of kept the defensive
Speaker 1: ship together. We do have some developing news. Let's do
Speaker 1: it justin Graver. Oh, right, work, it's appropriate. Drew Tranquil Uh,
Speaker 1: who was one of the top ten players still available
Speaker 1: on my left us know if it is two overall? Uh,
Speaker 1: the one player Bill Barnewell said, I overrated the most,
Speaker 1: so I remember that disagreed with Super Bowl champion Kansas
Speaker 1: City Chiefs signed him to a one year deal. All right,
Speaker 1: what will we possibly lead Monday show with now Barnwells
Speaker 1: on the show? Yeah, the whole show. As I was trying,
Speaker 1: we're stepping all over. No, no, no, no, that you
Speaker 1: did it for me. It was good. It was all
Speaker 1: coming together. Like Drew, I think he's a nice set.
Speaker 1: Everybody go ahead. He's a nice little winder. That's a
Speaker 1: nice little combo there, him and Willie Gay. That's good,
Speaker 1: all right, good? He went on I r with a
Speaker 1: knee injury last year. Let's period playmaker. Uh yeah, not tranquill,
Speaker 1: causing a lot of having good good good. Um. Yes,
Speaker 1: Bill Barnwell will be on the show. I think we
Speaker 1: have to talk about what we're gonna be doing Barnewell.
Speaker 1: But I think a good move would be, let's just
Speaker 1: read up on Bill's coverage of free agency and just
Speaker 1: riff off his thoughts. Yeah, are they behind a paywall?
Speaker 1: And I would hope not for the paywall? All right,
Speaker 1: then you could read I honestly, you'd them on to us,
Speaker 1: and no one will never do that to the worldwide leader.
Speaker 1: I have too much respect for what they do. Then
Speaker 1: I'll come over to your house and read it on
Speaker 1: your laptop. This is my biggest the most yes, you
Speaker 1: can do that, um the respect I could pay Bill Barnwell.
Speaker 1: I have that subscription for Bill Barnwell. WHOA. I think
Speaker 1: they should I think ESPN should understand them. That's probably
Speaker 1: true of a number of individuals because his columns are
Speaker 1: like completely next level. And that's why we're having on
Speaker 1: the show. Yes, friend of the show Northeastern University alum
Speaker 1: paywall stretch in other areas not when it comes to
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a lot of but I don't care
Speaker 1: about their plus. I like NFL Plus. It's all over
Speaker 1: a free agency. That's a great product. We also, uh yeah,
Speaker 1: have that mail bag. You should just go back and
Speaker 1: listen to whatever we answered. You know, we should do
Speaker 1: another one will soon NFL Plus check that out around
Speaker 1: the NFL. And that's it for this week of shows.
Speaker 1: Barring something insane happening. I don't know how much long
Speaker 1: we have to keep tagging them that way. But you
Speaker 1: like Lamar Jackson comes down like eleven thirty pm on St.
Speaker 1: Patrick's Day, that will go well, all right, that's it.
Speaker 1: This is uh, you're a little weird. Yes, it's happy
Speaker 1: Saint Patrick's Day. Everybody, have a nice weekend and we
Speaker 1: will be back on Monday. Until then, you know what
Speaker 1: you gotta do. Mark, do you want to say at time?
Speaker 1: Heed a call, Boom,