1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. Uh. These are some of our favorite segments 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: from this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment 4 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: last stravaganza. Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is 5 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: the Weekly Zeitgeist. Please welcome to the Daily Sight guys. 6 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: Mala Munio Sandiosa. Hello, Alla, hey everyone for having thanks 7 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: for coming by. Yeah, good to have you all. I 8 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: would say, what's new, but this is the first time 9 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,279 Speaker 1: we're meeting, so great to meet you. And is there 10 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: anything new going on with you all that we should know? 11 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 1: As I mean, our first big major thing is we 12 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: are like new to my heart to the network. We 13 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: just signed the Michael da Network, which is like the 14 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: Latin x pro gramming with an my heart, and we're 15 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: really excited to be part of the family. Yeah we've 16 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: been podcasting since, but to be on this level, to 17 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: have this kind of game changer, has been really exciting. 18 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: So we're just happy to be here. Oh you know 19 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: you you you are, you know legends in your own right, 20 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: You've won awards, people know how good you are. I 21 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 1: think it's only probably a matter of time that everybody 22 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: began to understood that, but yeah, thanks so much for 23 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: coming on. And Okay, so this is something I was 24 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: gonna before we started. I was like, this is something 25 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: I've been having arguments about, not with any of you 26 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: all specifically, but I asked the two of you. Both 27 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: of you are from l A, right, Yes, what part 28 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: of l A from? So I grew up in the 29 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: San Gabel Valley, but I live more like in central 30 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: l A, mid city, Okay, okay, six to six checking 31 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: in Okay, yes, truly, Yeah, I'm in the five six two. 32 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: I'm in southeast l A. Okay, Okay, there you go. Okay, 33 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: So now and jack Keys, I said, you're from Chicago 34 00:01:58,720 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: and he said, well, yeah, I've been living here for 35 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: a minute. This is now. This is a question I 36 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: have when if you're on vacation, right and you're meeting 37 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: let's say you meet other American people, or you just 38 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: meet people and they say, oh, hey, okay, cool, where 39 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: are you from? Do you say where you live or 40 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: where you're from? What? What's what's what is the right 41 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: answer there? Yeah? At this point I just say l A, 42 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 1: Like I just I just got back from having a 43 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: black ass adventure in Europe for a month last month, 44 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: So of course, you know, of course you you you 45 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: get a lot of where are you from? Where are 46 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: you from? And then you say the States, and you 47 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: say California, and then you say Los Angeles. So that 48 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,399 Speaker 1: was the default. But then like, if you're worthy enough 49 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: to have me conversate with you for longer than like 50 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: two minutes, and we started talking, and you know, I 51 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: eventually I'll let it come out like, well, I was 52 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: actually born in Chicago. I'm from Chicago. So at this 53 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: point I've been living in l A for over ten 54 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: years now, so at this point it's just easy. It 55 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: may no sense for me to say from Sargo. This 56 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,239 Speaker 1: is where I get caught up when someone says where 57 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: are you from? I literally hear that a like what 58 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: you like, where are you claiming? Like where are you from? 59 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: Like not like where do you reside? Like I'd be 60 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: like man from the valley, bro for the San Fernando Valley, 61 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: That's that's where I'm from. But these people are being like, well, 62 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: it's actually more relevant where you live now, And I'm like, 63 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: I guess I just interpret that question to be like 64 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: where are you from? Like where do you originate from? 65 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: And I guess that's where I get. Let me let 66 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: me tell you. Let me tell y'all something. If y'all 67 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: worry about me still repping Shottown Chicago South Side, you 68 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: ain't gotta worry about that. I'm still up here repping 69 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: the three one two in the second three. You know 70 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it's just when I'm talking to 71 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: the white folk from a round the way and they 72 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: want to know where where are you? They see black 73 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: folks me like, where you from my nigga? White people 74 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: like where are you living? Where you living? Differently? You know, yeah, 75 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: contact Like it depends on who's asking, like they're creepy, 76 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: if they're creepy. I firmly believe in lying to people 77 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: about where you're where you're from, the from right, because 78 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: also now living in Chicago, now living you know, being 79 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: from Chicago and ship this should happen to me in 80 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: l A had a karaoke bar, like I had a 81 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: friend from Chicago in We were talking and then of 82 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: course it was a white boy. Of course the conversation 83 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: turned to, so how about that violence. I should be like, 84 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,799 Speaker 1: shut the funk up, like, you know, so I don't 85 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: need all that. But if it's a homie, I can 86 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: tell the person's cool, like Miles, you know me what, 87 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: like there's no shortage of Chicago pride coming from me. 88 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: You you represent it all the way. What is something 89 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:51,559 Speaker 1: from your search history? So I found this just this morning. 90 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is a perfect I in 91 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: my search Tristory, I have morning finger paint. Morning finger paint. 92 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: The pain does it your experiencing? It's like, yeah, in 93 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: my middle finger when I wake up in the morning, 94 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: it feels like it's jammed almost. It feels like just 95 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: like tensing it, like flexing it hurts a little bit. 96 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: Relaxing it even like getting it up to like that 97 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: that full stretch hurts. And I was like it was 98 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: wasn't going away. So it's like, you know, I'm forty 99 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: forty years old now, and they're just after you admit it. 100 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: You admit that though in the middle Yeah, I mean like, 101 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: look at it's okay to be forty and uh I 102 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: there's just like things like I got a shoulder thing 103 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: that I just sort of lived with now and I 104 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: was like, oh, it's just another thing. And I was like, well, 105 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: maybe I can look it up and see what it is. 106 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: And so I'm trying. I was looking up morning finger pain, 107 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: just like I look up all my ailments, and I'm 108 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: it could be tenanitis, Yeah, you can fix that. Or 109 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: it could be what's that thing called where your fingers 110 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: get all old and arthur. Yeah, it could be arthritis 111 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: like the old peak and then you're just done if 112 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: you narthritis. Wait, so, but why the morning? I don't know, 113 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: like what it It goes away throughout that works itself out. Basically, 114 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: you're so young, so naive. Everything hurts in the morning 115 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: once you hit fourty man, so it starts your whole body. 116 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: Let's throw my back out this morning, just like making 117 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: breakfast for my kids, like it just like stuff. I 118 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: was like, oh no, yeah, the wheels get greased throughout 119 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: the day somehow moving around, but in the morning super painful. 120 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: So it could be those two things, or if narratives 121 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: from TV shows have taught me anything, there's probably an 122 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: alternate personality that when you go to sleep takes over 123 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,119 Speaker 1: and starts doing things while you're asleep with your middle 124 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: finger and shoulder. I don't know exactly what it is, 125 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: but it's spooky and scary, and you you should start 126 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 1: videotaping yourself when you go to sleep. Yeah, okay, I 127 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: love watching those, and your kids are gonna be like 128 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: the man the tree came back last night and you're like, 129 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: what again yellow Jackets or is that? I feel like 130 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: I've seen that other places where like a split, I 131 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: feel like it's yeah, but the lady in the tree 132 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: is definitely Yellow Jackets Club. Yeah. Yeah, we're just spoiling 133 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: ship left him right? What is what something you think 134 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: is overrated? Oh gosh, I'm probably gonna get you all canceled. 135 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: I think Taylor Swift is overrated. I think I saw 136 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: I saw models eyes. No, really, I just I've never 137 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: seen it for that lady. I always refer to her 138 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: as that lady and that lady. She's just that lady 139 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: to me, and I genuinely don't see it for her. 140 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: I think she's or I think she's overrated. Um. I 141 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: definitely think she's a mean girl masked as a I'm 142 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: just telling a story now, girl, you're being messy, and 143 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: I think that that's something that I wish more people saw. 144 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: I like, I see through her. I really do. Mm hmmm. 145 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: Oh you said, okay, You're like you're like you're doing 146 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: a good job though. Yeah, well he's been able to 147 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: capitalize on it, so obviously she's doing a really good job. 148 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: But I genuinely just don't see it for her. I 149 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: genuinely believe that she she is that. So I'm gonna 150 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: say that she is that girl that when you were 151 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: in middle school constantly did things and everyone else got 152 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: in trouble, but her, she's she is that girl in 153 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: my She's getting away, she's getting away with it, and 154 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: she knows how to manipulate people to she basically, yeah, 155 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: she just personifies what white feminism is in my opinion, 156 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: I said what I said, who do you think should be? 157 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: Who is the person who needs who isn't getting the 158 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: tailor shine that you're like? You know who should be 159 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: getting that shine? Is this artist? Uh? The person who 160 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 1: is not getting the tailor shine that they deserve? I 161 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: genuine you know, So there is I see people doing 162 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 1: the challenge on the TikTok victor Aria money. I think 163 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: she'ld be getting all of the love and the shine 164 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: that Taylor Swift is getting. It's just I think she's 165 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: a great performer, great writer, and she doesn't bother people 166 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: like she doesn't you never hear anything negative about Victoria 167 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: Money in the in the news. But yeah, for some reason, 168 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 1: she's not as big as you know Taylor is, and 169 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: I don't get why. So it'll take time. Sure, we'll 170 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: get there, because it's like Swift fans tend to be 171 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: pretty measured and you know, reasonable, so we should be 172 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: good here. Use a lot of qualitative and quantitative analysis 173 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: with the absolutely. I feel like right now though Carly 174 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: Ray Jeffson is like overtaking Taylor Swift or like Twitter, 175 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: I see way more people getting turned up over c 176 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: r J, which you know with her too. Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, 177 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: what's something that you think is underrated? Karmen. You know 178 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: I thought about this question, Miles. Look at me. I'm 179 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: a brown woman. I'm a brown woman. Okay, what's underrated me? 180 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: What's what'sn't? What'sn't? Me? Okay? My whole life, me, my 181 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: whole freaking life. And I'll say all other black and 182 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: brown women underrated, underappreciated, underthought of, under everything, because I 183 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: tell you, even just yesterday, I was in the Apple 184 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: Store and this young man I go up to him 185 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, I need a new phone. Blah 186 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: blah blah, black screen of death, blah blah blah. And 187 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: this man he just treating me. It's so dismissive, so dismissive, 188 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: until he's like, well, why don't you just look up 189 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: your receipts from the store to see when's the last 190 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: time you bought? And I scroll in and I'm scrolling receipts, 191 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: and this brother goes, oh, I didn't realize that, like 192 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: you bought so much here, like you know, just a 193 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: stupid ship, because of course I don't. I'm not the 194 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: color and the type and this and that. The other 195 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: thing happens constantly. It's that thing of where, re Becca, 196 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: you know, you walk out the door in your skin, 197 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: in your race and in your gender and how you appear, 198 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: and that hits you in the face in many, many spaces. 199 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 1: And so I think we still do underrate our women 200 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,599 Speaker 1: of color and black and brown women for real. Happens 201 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: on the daily. And there's also, of course, there's an 202 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: urge to squash it, because, as you know, Becca, we 203 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: are so good, we are right now. The biggest transaction 204 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: I've been saying that's been urging me so crazy is that, 205 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: like the internet is trying to make Haylee Bieber and 206 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: it girl. I've been annoyed since day one. She's literally 207 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: dos a nepotism baby with no talent and Bieber Sands 208 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: come for me. But she has been doing this like 209 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: brown lip class car. I was just gonna it's like 210 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: the clean So literally all of us have been wearing 211 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: real gold and I you know, I'm sure the girl 212 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: is on the internet a lot of it's not. It's 213 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 1: like these are gold that's passed down all my girls 214 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: passed down and the makeup that they we wear the 215 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: clean look is because we couldn't afford a lot of 216 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: makeup or makeup didn't come in our colors that we 217 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: couldn't get the nation exactly, we're buying brown lip or 218 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: eat eyeliner to use as lipliner to make a lip 219 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: glass because they don't have anything in our shades. So 220 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 1: I'm just like whatever, this brown like new look for fall. 221 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, this is something my mom has worn 222 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: iconically for years, like yes, yes, And that's the thing 223 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: is that we get this were simultaneously underrated and stolen 224 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: from because we produce the good ship, right, So it's 225 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: like it's that simul, No, we want what you got, 226 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: but but you know you stay over here. We also 227 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: think you're saying, my god, let me tell you I 228 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: had to search for doctors like the dismissiveness that they 229 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: give you when you walk in the office when your 230 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: brown woman is just it's actually causes death. Yeah right, 231 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: it kills women, so that we are underrated. Look, I 232 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: gave you something like so serious. Meanwhile, like you know 233 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: what's underrated? What's underrated? The brown lipt an? I got 234 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 1: a little bit of it going on myself. Yeah, a 235 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: little bit, a little bit. Yeah, yeah, let's make a 236 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: peppy miles, let's get looks question, because I just I 237 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: just went through this with a family member, you know, 238 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: like just terrible medical care, and it really made me think. 239 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, is there like a top forty for doctors, 240 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: Like because there's you see so many things and there's reviews, right, 241 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: you could be like, oh this doctor reviews, but there 242 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: are good doctors. Yeah, Like and I'm just like I'm like, 243 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: where's the what's like the Michelin Guide. So you know, 244 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, these motherfucker's won't dismiss you, like if 245 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: you're saying something's wrong. Because I mean not just I'm 246 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 1: not trying to paint the entire medical industry with one brush, 247 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: because I know people myself were very dedicated to what 248 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: they do, but I know there are also so many 249 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: people who slipped through the cracks that it's like half 250 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: the time I feel like I'm I'll pick a just 251 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: a doctor because who's closest, and then and your insurance 252 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: cover exactly that's the thing, and that's why people like 253 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: have to go to a certain doctor, you know, and 254 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: the's like, oh, how come he didn't get all this 255 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: blood working, blah blah blah done. I'm like, I don't know. 256 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: I'm not a fucking doctor. I just went to this 257 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 1: motherfucker and they said it was all good. Well you're 258 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: saying what now, Like, listen, I've been in the doctor's 259 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: office of my daughter's long COVID, so we have many doctors, 260 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: and sometimes you know, she's she's a sass sassafras like 261 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: her mama. And sometimes we'll leave and she'll be like 262 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: that guy was an asshole or that woman. Did you 263 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: see the way she didn't talk to me, she didn't 264 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: look at me, she just looked at you, like, I'm 265 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: not a person blah blah blah, And I say, I say, 266 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: here's what you gotta understand. Just like I just said 267 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: about the frigiveness thing, doctors are just people. They're just people. 268 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: They're not like some magical demigo their jaws human beings. 269 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: They can be just as racist, just as stupid, just 270 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: as bias, just as tired, just as hungry, just you know, 271 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: all of those things. Not to excuse their behavior, but like, 272 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: where is it coming from? It is it will full 273 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: bias and ignorance, or is it like they're really really 274 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: rushed and maybe you still don't want to see them anyway, 275 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: or the momentum of the whatever is the status quoe 276 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: is given profession to. You know, like every industry has 277 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: this like decades old momentum of terrible habits and ship 278 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: that can't be broke. But yeah, yeah, anyway, let us 279 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: know what's the missiling guide for doctor? There there. I 280 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: don't want to plug anybody, but you know, when you 281 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: google the dot, when you google doctor's names, it does 282 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: you'll see rating come up and or zoc doc also 283 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: has ratings from yeah, dot does have ratings, but then 284 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: see but then I think, because a yelped, I'm like, see, 285 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: I don't know what this person been through word of mouth. 286 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: I have found almost all of my daughters specialists and 287 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: my doctors through word of mouth. Yeah, that's the same thing. 288 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: I'm your doctor. The second someone says that, I'm like, Okay, 289 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: what do they like? Where they where they what do 290 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: they do? Can I get all my girls here in 291 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: New York? I gave them a run down because it 292 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: took me two years to find all my doctors. I 293 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: went through trial and error. I've also had very I've 294 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: talked about it on this podcast. I talked to you 295 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: at it, and I think the ambiguous. I've definitely had 296 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: the run of the gamut of bad doctors. I have 297 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: a the great selection here now, and I like sent 298 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: it to all my girls who moved to New York. 299 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: I was like, these are my doctors. If they were 300 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: by your insurance, go to these people because they respect 301 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: me that that you have performed a very important service. 302 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: That is an incredible You've saved them hours and months 303 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: and years of pain. So bravo, girl, bravo. They're like, hey, 304 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: I want to get Becca's lists. All right, let's take 305 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: a quick break and we'll be right back to talk. 306 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: About governance after this and we're back, and there was 307 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: a tragedy in Soul Korea, a crab crush. A hundred 308 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: and fifty young people died. And in the aftermath of 309 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: these I feel like, you know, with the Astro World one, 310 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: it was I think that the these are conspiracy theories 311 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: were extra quick and and they were like it had 312 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: something to do with Satan and Satan worshiping. But usually 313 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: the thing you hear is that it's a stampede, that 314 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: people are like kind of trampled under a stampede, and 315 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: it's it's a really kind of consistent misunderstanding or like 316 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 1: misreporting of what actually happens because it's it's almost always 317 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: has to do with fluid dynamics and not anybody in 318 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:31,239 Speaker 1: the crowd doing something violent like there. So the New 319 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 1: York Times article about this on Sunday, like that was 320 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,479 Speaker 1: in the print version, like they had a quote that 321 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 1: was later a group of young men made a hard 322 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: shove down the hill, chanting push push, And that was 323 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: like kind of the It stands out because the only 324 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: real description of anyone like doing anything other than the 325 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: all the other descriptions are people being like, we don't 326 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: know what happened? We have no idea, like no, like 327 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: nothing seemed off and then like there there was a 328 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: some people were claiming their to have been a gas 329 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: leak or something. But first of all, it's like weird 330 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: a group of young like how did they source the 331 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: fact that a group of young men like specifically in 332 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: this massive like wave of people was doing anything in particular. 333 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: But the truth is that generally these have more to 334 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 1: do with fluid dynamics and like basically, when crowd density 335 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: rise above four people per square meter and especially to 336 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: six or more, people get pressed together so tightly that 337 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 1: they begin to move together as one unit with waves 338 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: of pressure and release. And yeah, I've been like, yeah, yeah, 339 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: I've been in crowds that get like that, and it'll 340 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: be like as a shows about to start at a 341 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: concert or getting out and people are trying like a festival, 342 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 1: you're trying to like just people trying to move very 343 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: quickly from thing to thing. And it always is the 344 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: thing where when you're in it, you'll be like damn, 345 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 1: like you're shoulder to shoulder and like you're saying, you're 346 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: almost like I'm moving because everything else is moving, not 347 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: because I have the space to move or anything. It's 348 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: like I'm being pushed from behind, and usually you'll hear 349 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: people at one point go yo, stop pushing, stop pushing, 350 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: like you feel that there's always this thing where people 351 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: feel that they're being pushed because of like you're saying this, 352 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: like it's like watching traffic of it, like the pressure 353 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: building up and releasing like an accordion kind of. Yeah, 354 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: it's it's it's definitely freaky when you're in a situation 355 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: like that, but never like at the scale of you know, 356 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of people. Yeah. Yeah, there's this Business 357 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: Insider article that they released after using the word stampede 358 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: in early reports, but they were like, yeah, no, we 359 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: interviewed this person, Keith Still, a UK crowd science and 360 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: risk analyst expert, who said, I've not seen any instances 361 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: of the cause of mass fatalities being a stampede. People 362 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: don't die because they panic. They panic because they're dying. 363 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: So you might hear people scream like push, push, because 364 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: they're like trying not to be like suffocated by from 365 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: the other side. But it's like the people in the back, 366 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,239 Speaker 1: who are, you know, maybe hundreds of feet away from 367 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: anyone who's in real danger might like just do a 368 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: small shove to like keep their balance or something, and 369 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 1: that builds up this like wave of people that can 370 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: have a multiplying effect, and it really just like comes 371 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: down to the people who are involved are in a 372 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: no win situation when you get that many people into 373 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 1: that small space and that there's nothing that they can do. 374 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 1: But the the way we try to make sense of 375 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: it because of like how you know, I've heard it 376 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: explained as like America's individualistic, so we can't like make 377 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: sense of anything that we can't blame on an individual person. 378 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 1: You could also like I've heard people say it's the 379 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: English language and the way that the English language is structured, 380 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: like it makes it so that we there has to 381 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: be someone doing an act there, Like we rarely just 382 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: talk about something happening. It's almost always like someone doing 383 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: the thing. But it's very misleading and it also lets 384 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: the organizers off the hook, like the you know, when 385 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: people try to sue over this, it's almost always thrown 386 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: out because of this misconception. Did you guys watch the 387 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: wood Stock documentary? No? I didn't. Yeah, they and if 388 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: they talk about it's like, yeah, it's called train wreck, 389 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: and they talk about, uh, they interview somebody who's on 390 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,719 Speaker 1: stage and like somebody people who are like perform at 391 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: these things. They see the that like fluidity of the crowd, 392 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: and they talk about how when crowds start to get 393 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: like really rolled up, you'll just see like a group 394 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: of people in the crowd, all of a sudden, the 395 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,959 Speaker 1: whole group just moves to the right six ft like 396 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: out of nowhere, and they don't know how it happened 397 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: or anything, but from the stage you can see it happened, 398 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 1: where it's just like everybody all of a sudden is 399 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: over and they'll kind of get picked up essentially and push. 400 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: And sometimes I think people just get I don't know. 401 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: I always picture it is like somebody getting stuck underneath 402 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: and then getting trampled to death. But I guess that's 403 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 1: not really it. I mean that just that can happen too, 404 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: But I think the real the real angels when people 405 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: get so compressed, you literally are just being squeezed out, 406 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: like you're like you're just being compressed to the point 407 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 1: you can't even breathe, and then you're just stuck. Medieval war, 408 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: where like at the in the middle of it. Everybody 409 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: is just that you can't even do anything right when 410 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: you bring up the organizers to Jack because like the 411 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: cops were saying, and so they were like they admitted 412 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 1: that they were there, but they weren't there for crowd control, 413 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 1: Like the hundred thirty some officers that were there were 414 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: there just to look out for criminal activity. So they 415 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: were like, yeah, I mean we actually had no we 416 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: have there's no real guide book like according to the 417 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 1: police force of like how to like what to do 418 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: for crowd management, because the other thing they point to 419 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 1: or this is like an their excuse was also like, well, 420 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: there's also no clear organizer. But the fact is you knew, 421 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: like this event has been growing over the last few years, 422 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: and this was like especially people were there because this 423 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: is like the first time there weren't any COVID restrictions 424 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 1: in place, so it was going to be turned up 425 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: city like and they said that that so that metro station, 426 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 1: a hundred thirty thousand people like passed through there that night. 427 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: So a lot of people are like, you could do 428 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,719 Speaker 1: so many things like have the have the like station 429 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: of the that metro station closed so people have to 430 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: go to the next one and like walk through rather 431 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: than just like letting like hundreds of like a hundred 432 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: thousand people just bleed out into this one very small 433 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 1: area and just be like yeah, let's star our hands up, 434 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, and see what happens. Yeah, I mean 435 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: it needs to be viewed like there is a wave 436 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: of water like a people have said like it's similar 437 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 1: to a tsunami, and like that's really how they need 438 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: to treat if Like, yeah, if there are that many 439 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: people going through a turnstile to an event in like 440 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 1: a small location, like that needs to be how it's treated, 441 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 1: because yeah, like the the fluidity of it is is 442 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: kind of mind boggling. But yeah, people talk about like 443 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: having shoes sucked off their feet because of like just 444 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: how much pressure and movement and yes, suddenly you're like 445 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: thirty feet to your right and like you haven't done 446 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: any thing other than be like picked up off your feet. 447 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, it just needs to be a crowd control, 448 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 1: a like human engineering like issue and not treated as 449 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 1: you know, something where the cops are just there to 450 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: prevent pickpocketers and like that. They just needed to be 451 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: very clear rules in everybody's mind of like okay, this 452 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: looks like it's going to be more than two to 453 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 1: four people like per square meter. Let's like we need 454 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 1: to just stop people from coming here. Yeah, like set 455 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: up a blockade or something. Yeah. I think about like 456 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: early when I was a kid and I would go 457 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: to punk shows or something, and I was like scared 458 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: going in there. But then you'd be in the crowd 459 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: and like everyone would be like pushing each other and 460 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 1: you get knocked down and other people would just pick 461 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: you up, and I was like, Oh, it's safe. Like 462 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 1: everybody's that has this figured out like this somehow, the 463 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: everyone who goes to these already knows how this all works. 464 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 1: And that's it's just not true. Like the minute that 465 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: you hit capacity, no one's in control anymore, right, Yeah, right. 466 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: It was safe because there was space, you know for 467 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: there to be like a mosh pit, and then if 468 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: you needed to get out, you could get out too, 469 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 1: and it wasn't just like, uh, you know, just a 470 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: compact space for people to go. Jack, have you ever 471 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: been somewhere with your child in a situation like that? 472 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 1: I was a thing yesterday, Like to your point Miles 473 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 1: about it being like, you know, post pandemic, there is 474 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: a Halloween. What's that? Sorry didn't he Yeah, I was 475 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: like speaking, you say, because things don't just happen people 476 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: to them to us. You check out my favorite tweet later. Sorry, yes, 477 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: I And that's something that I need to be wary 478 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: of because we're not post pandemic. We are post a 479 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: lot of the things that were helping us fight the 480 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: pandemic and like post shutdowns. But we we went to 481 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: a like fair in our neighborhood that was didn't happen 482 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: for the last two years, and it was just absolutely 483 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: like so jam packed in like all these people in 484 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: a small setting, like everybody was miserable. Like we were 485 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 1: walking up and like parents were like it's bad, They're 486 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: like good luck, and I was like, uh, they're they're 487 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: just being fun and it was scary. Like we we 488 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 1: left after like five minutes because yeah, I think just 489 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 1: a lot of people showing up at the same place 490 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 1: and not a lot of like there's just not this 491 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: idea that Okay, one person is in charge and if 492 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 1: it hits this number, you're done, Like you everybody has 493 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: to like go home or like you just need to 494 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: start turning people away. We went to when my son 495 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,199 Speaker 1: was young enough that he was in a stroller. We 496 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: went to the women's march, and we were like out 497 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: in the street corner of this intersection basically where it's 498 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: just people starts like swell from each side and it 499 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: just sort of like pushed into the middle and it 500 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: became packed enough that people couldn't see the stroller download 501 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: but everyone who's like looking for an empty space, all 502 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: they see is like this empty space, like everybody's trying 503 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: to move to that space. And then he was a 504 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 1: stroller there, so it's just like denser and denser. And 505 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: then at a certain point that we're all gonna march now, 506 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: and I was like, that's a bad idea, Like we 507 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: should not even like let's just all go our separate ways, 508 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 1: Like this is bad, and I it was a situation 509 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 1: I was helpless in and I was like, I shouldn't 510 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 1: have brought him here, Like this is a stake. Yeah, 511 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: that's really scary. Yeah, it just sounds like we have 512 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 1: to move past. Like the idea of like when there's 513 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: a lot of people there, it's not like and then 514 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: some joker is gonna trigger a stampede. It's that when 515 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 1: there are so many people there, it has to be 516 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 1: like like a second nature. They say, well, we have 517 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 1: to figure out how to like alleviate pressure from certain 518 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 1: points so we don't have a crush because we know 519 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: this tiny district or wherever this place is going to be, 520 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: that you figure out what to do for people's safety. 521 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: And like, yeah, in the you know, I think in 522 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: the cases of like astral World and Woodstock, it was 523 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: a lot of that stuff was clearly because of cost cutting, 524 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 1: just being like we don't want to pay that much 525 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 1: for security, and then this one seems like total just 526 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,719 Speaker 1: absolute lack of preparation from like the municipality to like 527 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 1: understand what it means to have that many people in 528 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: the space and then you know, having a tragedy like 529 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: that right after. Yeah, and even going to the explanation 530 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: of the gas attack is like the because that's one 531 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: of the things we can conceive of as like an 532 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: invisible killer. But like like like the world, someone was 533 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: injecting people and they were going down in the crowd. 534 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: It's like no people were suffocating or going to cardiac 535 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: arrest because of the brush. Yeah, alright, let's talk Twitter. 536 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: Ellen has taken over and apparently once users with blue 537 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: check marks to pay around twenty dollars a month to 538 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: keep their verification status lest they be cast aside to 539 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: the faceless masses with US normans. The blue checks will 540 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: allegedly have ninety days to subscribe, and the Twitter employees 541 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: have until November seven to figure this out or they 542 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: will be fired. According to Elon Musk, he seems like 543 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: a cool boss, great leader, great leader, great leader, great genius, 544 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: genius genius. Yeah. I guess they have a thing called 545 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: Twitter Blue, which is like an optional four nine a 546 00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: month subscription that unlocks additional features, and they're just going 547 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: to transition that into a more expensive subscription. I'm trying 548 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: to think of what you possibly would pay for. What 549 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: is it? What does Twitter blue have delete or like, 550 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if it has Yeah, I don't. I 551 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: don't even know to the point where you're like I 552 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: can't even write exactly, like do I need to have 553 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: Twitter Blue? I don't think so. But I think it's 554 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: just a way to be like it's premium, and then 555 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: if you were just addicted to that word, you're like, yeah, yeah, 556 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: I got and I got the premium Twitter the paramoupis 557 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: at all. But I think I think the big thing 558 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: too is just also saying it's like, oh, right, this 559 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: because I think a lot of people like this guy 560 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: doesn't really want Twitter, you know what I mean, Like 561 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: he was just really trying to avoid it. And now 562 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: it's like, okay, well now you got to have this 563 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: thing be a money making thing, and like first step 564 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: is all right, fire everybody and then make blue check 565 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: mark twenty bucks a month? Yeah? Does that save my money? 566 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: You turn a profit like that? And it's so Twitter 567 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: verification was supposed to be about security and rooting out fraud. 568 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: It was introduced in two thousand nine and it came 569 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: after he Larusa sued the company after a Tony LaRussa 570 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: impersonator account, made derogatory jokes about him. And I think 571 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: they got that scared them. But you do have a 572 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: blue check mark. And I did notice that, like around 573 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: the time that you got the blue checkmark, your appearance 574 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: totally changed and you just took over. I'd always assumed 575 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: you just took over somebody else's account, and once they 576 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: had the blue check mark, it was you were just 577 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: a new swar and booie. Right. Yeah, I mean I 578 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: felt like a new man as soon as I got it. 579 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: It's like it my world changed, the kind of things 580 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: opened up for me. I'll give you a peek in 581 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: the back door here, Jack, because I mean obviously then 582 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: they didn't approve your check mark. Uh, it didn't approve 583 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: much because I have been I have as since you 584 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: got your You've applied so many times. Oh my god. 585 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: So it's the things that are different are especially if 586 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: you're a writer, that other writers like immediately will respond 587 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: to you, like other blue check other people who are 588 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: they it's like this legitimacy that you have where they're like, oh, 589 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: like if you if you write something to somebody or 590 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: a reply, then they're like, okay, I'll play this game, 591 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: whereas before like you just ignore everybody. And that was nice, 592 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: but then it also it made it so that I 593 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: couldn't fight with anybody, Like it's really dangerous to be 594 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: like really get into it with somebody because you're never 595 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: the good guy in that situation. In any circumstance. It's 596 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: like if you don't agree with somebody, or you're like 597 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,959 Speaker 1: you're going at it with somebody, eventually inevitably somebody you 598 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: know will jump and be like, hey man, that that 599 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: person's got a hundred and fifty followers verified, Like, why 600 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: did you do a deep dive into their YouTube channel 601 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: that you found it there and just totally pour it apart? Dude, 602 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,719 Speaker 1: we get. But that is why I'm able to just 603 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: talk shit about you flagrantly and you won't say anything 604 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: back to me. I will never say a thing because 605 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: I have to pretend I don't know who you are. 606 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: I don't remember you because and you won't admit to 607 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: knowing me anywhere except this podcast, which is give me 608 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: a little unnerving. It would be a little frustrating, and 609 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: it does drive my mania to get my blue check 610 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: mark approved. But I do like that even like for 611 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: you start, it does feed the idea of like, well, 612 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: I'm a blue check and how does that look as 613 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: I a blue check kicking dirt on the downtroden check. Yeah, 614 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: it's like you've been there before. Come a star bellies 615 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: speech man. Uh I. We'll find though that there are 616 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: people who like Dan O'Brien is a good friend of mine. 617 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: If Dan tweets at me, I never see it, like 618 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, they're like twitters like this is the 619 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: riff raff, like he these people who are not you want, 620 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: like they just hide some ship that you don't know, 621 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: blue checkmark, he insists on. Well, you know, he's like, 622 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: I'm starting to think it's our last name. This is 623 00:32:54,080 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: this is bullshit? Wow interesting interesting famously Yeah, most uh 624 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: like mccallahan, anything that's like slightly irish, they're like, don't 625 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: do it, don't do it. Oh that's amazing. Yeah. I 626 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: mean so obviously, like the security measure part of it 627 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: melted away, like the Tony Luisa thing, Like he had 628 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: to throw his case out because the account that he 629 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: was like they're trying to steal my identity was like 630 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: named Tony Larusa Like what's it called I'm having like parody? Yeah, 631 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: it was called Tony Luisa parody account or like it 632 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: said that on the bio. So it was just understanding 633 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: Internet basically, but yeah, it became status. It became a 634 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: thing where the blue checks wouldn't even respond to us. 635 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: And also it's like Chester Cheetah has a blue check mark, right, 636 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: so like, I I'm not sure who was trying to 637 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: steal Chester Cheetah's account, or maybe they were. I don't 638 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: know that that actually makes more sense. I mean when 639 00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: you look at that though, too, like because you're always 640 00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: like way, So how come like these Peabody winning journalists 641 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: have blue checks and then a hot potato chip also 642 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 1: has one, And then you're like, all right, you can 643 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: like you basically can buy your way there too. Yeah, 644 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:18,720 Speaker 1: there's also these have already been for sale. Twitter themselves 645 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: of unofficially sold verified accounts to non celebrities if they 646 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 1: just spend fifteen thousand dollars over three months on advertising 647 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: on Twitter, which I think is a smaller amount of people, 648 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 1: don't even think since Twitter ads are bad. Yeah, but yeah, 649 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: like you're basically giving them fifteen grand for nothing, right, Well, 650 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: I you don't behave like in a hostile manner towards 651 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 1: ads you see on Twitter. I'm like, get the full Like, 652 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 1: whenever I see him, I'm like, dude, I wouldn't even 653 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: pretend to look at that ship. But also, wow, this 654 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: is really what Alex Mack, that player person who played 655 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: Alex Mac looks like. Now, I'll always hit those three 656 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: buttons there's little three dots at the top and be 657 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: like hide why. I don't know, I just don't like ads. 658 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:11,479 Speaker 1: Get it out of here. Get Yeah. They also got 659 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: in trouble when they verified one of the Charlotte'sville Nazis. 660 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 1: So that's but they just like don't have It's the 661 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 1: same social media problem where they're too vast to police 662 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: and the it just becomes a free for all, and 663 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,839 Speaker 1: like there's no way for them to do a consistent 664 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: policy without like hiring so many people that the site 665 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,840 Speaker 1: then becomes not profitable. So it's just I'm fine with 666 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: them taking away the book checks from everybody, making it 667 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 1: like egalitarian because nobody and what that's essentially what they're 668 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,280 Speaker 1: doing because nobody's gonna buy a twenty dollars people are saying. 669 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 1: And if they do buy a twenty dollar a month check, 670 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 1: mark like that fun that person, because you're gonna look 671 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 1: like becomes like a sign that you're the worst. Because 672 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 1: before you could you could have a blue check be like, oh, 673 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: I don't know, like they said they offered it to me, 674 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: you know, like back in the day they're like yeah, 675 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: like they are, like my manager figured it out. But 676 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: now like when you have it, you're like, oh, so 677 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: you're paying twenty bucks for that. Yeah, desperation is just 678 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: breaking from it and so and people know too, are 679 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: smart enough on Twitter to know that if you look 680 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: at somebody's account. You look at how many followers they 681 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: have versus how many they follow and that's like a 682 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: good indication of whether this person is the right person, 683 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,439 Speaker 1: like the person you're looking for. If there is any 684 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: ever question about whether this is like a parody account. Yeah, 685 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 1: you just look at like, okay, how many people they 686 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: felling how people are following? Right, Ah, I see that 687 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 1: that last number is higher than the first number. That's 688 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 1: a good sign. I think the funked up part about 689 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: all of this is that like so many people are 690 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: not critical enough in their analysis that looking at anything 691 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: on the Internet that they're just gonna assume blue check 692 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: equals truth, and there's gonna be a ton of bullshit 693 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: out there from these blue checks that most of the 694 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 1: time you'd be like, what the how the fund did 695 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,320 Speaker 1: this person get verified from that ep epic times or whatever? 696 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: Like what Yeah, Like it's gonna be all like just 697 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: just a ton of like misinformation fast. I mean that's why, 698 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 1: like everyone's just looking at this now and be like Wow, Okay, 699 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 1: like the use of racel slurs has exploded exponentially, and 700 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,839 Speaker 1: he's spreading like fucking like at least fucked up homophobic 701 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 1: conspiracy theories and then deleting him. He's like, is it 702 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:30,879 Speaker 1: possible the blue check story is meant to detract from that, 703 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,280 Speaker 1: which is like a much bigger story, which is that, yeah, 704 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,919 Speaker 1: Twitter is way worse that he's also doing some really 705 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 1: terrible He's tweeting some really terrible things about like Nancy 706 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 1: Pelosi and ship like that. On the right, I think 707 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 1: you just you know that everyone's gonna talk about the 708 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 1: blue check thing because the blue checks are going to 709 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: influence everybody else on Twitter, and that's all they want 710 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,839 Speaker 1: to talk about, right But the one thing, I feel 711 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,320 Speaker 1: like all of the most news outlets have been pretty 712 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 1: consistent with some version of like damn Elon's first week 713 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: so fucking real, funk up, or some version of that, 714 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: maybe not so aggress but pointing out it's like he's 715 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 1: like fired everyone as it stands right now, is like 716 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 1: just to announced that he fired the entire board and 717 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 1: now it's just him right now as he figures out 718 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: what to do with it. So I think most things 719 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 1: are pointing to like he's not sure what to do 720 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: with it, and he's making things so much fucking worse 721 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 1: right now. But what I Hey, Jack Dorsey's working on 722 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: his own ship now, blue Sky, whatever the funk it's called. 723 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: So this guy whatevering my application for the blue check thing. 724 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 1: Let me just because you guys made some good points, 725 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 1: it'll be It'll just be like Facebook. I think like 726 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 1: Facebook was a place where everybody left and the people 727 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 1: who didn't leave thought that everyone was like everyone was 728 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: still there. Everyone just agrees with me all of a sudden, 729 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: and that that this weird. And you know, and what's 730 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: gonna happen is there's gonna be like millennial grandpas that 731 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 1: are like, dude, my fucking dad's still on Twitter and no, 732 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: they're like, what in the in the year, Yes, dude 733 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 1: gets all the fucking news on there. Oh my god, 734 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 1: it's gonna be meat. Yeah, because I don't know, I'm 735 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 1: give up these numbers. I'm like, you're just hating the 736 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: son because you ain't got these followers. It's the oldest 737 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 1: social network I still use. And it's like it's I'm 738 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: gonna do. I'm gonna keep doing jokes man, that's all. 739 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,840 Speaker 1: It's gonna be forever. All right, let's take a quick break, 740 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 1: we'll come back. We'll talk pheromones and we're back and 741 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 1: the make Rib is coming back to McDonald's we go 742 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 1: away again for what quote might be the last time 743 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,879 Speaker 1: did they say that every time about the make Rib. 744 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:54,320 Speaker 1: There have been multiple farewell tours for the first off, Dude, Matthew, 745 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 1: you do eat the McRib Ever, I have never eaten one. 746 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:04,280 Speaker 1: Have you never even had I've ever had a Mike Rib. Oh, Miles, 747 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 1: you would love the Mick rib man. Really yeah? I 748 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: like so the well, let me tell you why, Like 749 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,879 Speaker 1: the reasons from my perception right when I first heard 750 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: of it as somebody who grew up in a barbecuing family, Like, 751 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 1: the word rib has a quite literal meaning to me. 752 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 1: So when I heard of the Mick Rib, I'm like, 753 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 1: and I saw it on the thing, I'm like, you 754 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 1: can just bite the bones and ship right, because they 755 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 1: do like crafted into a sponge that has bone shapes 756 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 1: like bone mark, yeah, bone gradiation. That's and that's their 757 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,760 Speaker 1: logo for it is you can bite the bones. Yeah, 758 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 1: And I'm like, so that always put me off, the 759 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,319 Speaker 1: simulated bones. I was like, no, that's weird. I love 760 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 1: simulated bones. But oh good, that's me. No matter what, 761 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: no matter when it's it's it's real mushy is the 762 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 1: thing that you don't expect. It's like it gives you, 763 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 1: I think, more than any other piece of McDonald's meat. 764 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 1: It gives you the sense of like you're The reason 765 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 1: I was saying you might like it is because of 766 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 1: your taste and fries, which is you like you like 767 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 1: the when you when you eat a fry, you like 768 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,959 Speaker 1: for it to be like falling apart in your hand 769 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 1: as you just like fling it into your mouth. That's 770 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 1: kind of the vibe you get from the mac rid. Yeah, 771 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 1: the like mushy meat, Yeah, I don't like what is it? 772 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 1: Like a floppy foam is kind of the but but 773 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,399 Speaker 1: it's all it's it's the whole thing is kind of 774 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 1: in just delivering a impressionistic take of like what barbecue 775 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 1: would be in the mind of an alien, you know, 776 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 1: to two thousand years after humanity and all of our 777 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,359 Speaker 1: you know, they they've just read about it, and this 778 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 1: is like an impression of like we we think this 779 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 1: is what they were doing with with that. It has 780 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,920 Speaker 1: the essence of smoke and meat. It just doesn't have 781 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 1: any of that really, I guess it is made of pork, right. 782 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:16,839 Speaker 1: It just has such lab experiment vibes. Yes, when I 783 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 1: look at it, I'm like, Okay, who thought this ship 784 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,720 Speaker 1: up and thought that was like a good thing to eat? Well, 785 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,800 Speaker 1: we I can tell you. So. First of all, the 786 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 1: people who thought up the marketing farewell tour is the 787 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 1: music industry, which that that was my first thought when 788 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,760 Speaker 1: I saw, Oh, they're doing another farewell tour. This reminds 789 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 1: me of like every Rolling Stones tour when the last 790 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 1: time the Eagles the Rolling Stones. The share apparently has 791 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 1: done like dozens of farewell tours. So, but as for 792 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,759 Speaker 1: the history of the mcribb, it was first developed utilizing 793 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:57,840 Speaker 1: military technology to restructure meat for soldiers. When the restructure 794 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 1: meat for soldiers, yes, I'm getting hungry. Yeah, go on, 795 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 1: So why why haven't they used uh, you know, they 796 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,360 Speaker 1: also made food for space food. You ever eaten that 797 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 1: space food? Space food vibes, crunchy foam, you know? I 798 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 1: also use that for for McDonald's things more often. I think, 799 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,319 Speaker 1: is this reminds me of that? It reminds me of 800 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,279 Speaker 1: like I just watched two thousand one Space Odyssey again 801 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 1: and they have that scene where they're like going to 802 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: the moon base and they're like they've really like gotten 803 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 1: the feel of regular food. As they're eating the sandwiches, 804 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 1: they're like, this is like it kind of feels like that. 805 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,920 Speaker 1: It's like, Oh, they've done a pretty good job using 806 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 1: just the restructured concept of meat. Or isn't that what 807 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,239 Speaker 1: chicken nuggets are too? It's just like this goop. I 808 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,719 Speaker 1: was just gonna say, like, chicken nuggets definitely feel more 809 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,880 Speaker 1: like you're getting chicken like they they feel more like 810 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 1: you can sense the presence of chicken more in a 811 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 1: chicken nugget then you can sense the present of ribs 812 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 1: in a mic ribb. I feel they're sold chicken nuggets 813 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 1: to me, or like its own food group in a way, 814 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, fried chewy nugs, meat flavor. I think 815 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,719 Speaker 1: mcgrubb pulls pushes it even further in the direction of 816 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,400 Speaker 1: new food group. Got it. It comes out in eighty 817 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 1: two and it is a huge flop. It's premiered in 818 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,359 Speaker 1: eight two and immediately starts disappearing in a d two 819 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 1: by three. The mcribb is basically gone, except it will 820 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 1: reappear suddenly in some places, only to disappear again with 821 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,880 Speaker 1: no one really knowing how or why. Right then comes 822 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 1: the Flint Stones movie in the nine nineties and John 823 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:55,080 Speaker 1: gre like John Goodman, great film. Yes, Rose o'donald Rosie o'donald, 824 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 1: thank you? Who was the other? Oh? Sorry, just to 825 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 1: say it was Elizabeth per Kins was Wilma okay? Rosie 826 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 1: o'donalds Berry was Sharon Stone? Was her name? That's right, 827 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 1: halle Berry, Sharon Stone? That was her? Like Stone Stone's name. 828 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,360 Speaker 1: Did they try and cast Sharon Stone and like have 829 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 1: to recast at the last moment? I don't know. I 830 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:21,400 Speaker 1: think maybe it was just like it was such a 831 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 1: nineties film that they're like, this is a great name 832 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,279 Speaker 1: to a folk because it has a rock word in it. 833 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 1: Yeah it's a pun. Oh yeah, no, it works. It 834 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 1: works for me, but it is weird to be like, 835 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 1: and halle Berry as Sharon Stone does sound like sentence. 836 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 1: But so they bring it back for that and wait, 837 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,360 Speaker 1: so wait, is the mick ribs supposed to be dinosaur 838 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 1: ribs because you know, fred Stone would eat giant bronosaurus ribs. 839 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 1: And so they were like there you go, like that's 840 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 1: the thing, and this is going to be the biggest 841 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 1: hit movie of all time, So we're gonna we're gonna 842 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,280 Speaker 1: you know reentry deuce a a food stone and pacifically 843 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,360 Speaker 1: for the flint stones, and kids love the vitamins. Yeah, 844 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,399 Speaker 1: that's right exactly. I mean people like eating things having 845 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 1: to do with the flint stones. There's something about that. 846 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 1: And smoking Winston cigarettes. Kids also like that. If you 847 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,760 Speaker 1: if you've seen the Fred flint Stone and Barney having 848 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,840 Speaker 1: a nice Winston behind the house commercials from the nineteen 849 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 1: six and seven perfect So Flint's McRib stays on the 850 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,120 Speaker 1: menu again, but in two thousand five it went on 851 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:34,760 Speaker 1: you guessed it a farewell tour. That's two thousand five, 852 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,439 Speaker 1: so seventeen years ago. Okay, it goes on its first 853 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 1: farewell tour, followed by three more farewell tours. You can 854 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 1: like go back and look at there's images mac ribb 855 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:50,400 Speaker 1: the farewell tour to two thousand and six. Theories abound 856 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 1: that McDonald's is actually releasing and recalling the mcribb in 857 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 1: direct reaction to fluctuating pork prices, and if you like, 858 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 1: go back and map the appearance and the farewell tours 859 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 1: of the mcribb. It kind of works like they only 860 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,839 Speaker 1: hit it in the valleys, like in terms of like 861 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,360 Speaker 1: when they're hitting like when it's at a low, they're like, 862 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 1: all right, baby, buy up the pork. The mcribb is back. Yes, 863 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 1: is beef do beef prices? Is that just like a 864 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 1: horizontal line? Is that? I think? I think it must 865 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:25,759 Speaker 1: be more steady. And also it's probably more steady because 866 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 1: McDonald's exists, right, And yeah, and they're the biggest, like 867 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:33,759 Speaker 1: one of the biggest, if not the largest, like purchasers 868 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,200 Speaker 1: of beef. When they put apples in one of their salads, 869 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,680 Speaker 1: they became the biggest purchaser of apples in the United States. 870 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:46,120 Speaker 1: So they're yeah, they're they they like it's hard to say, Okay, 871 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,920 Speaker 1: are they reacting to trends or are they creating them? Oh? Yeah, 872 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,839 Speaker 1: maybe those dips and valleys are in our results of 873 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 1: the mcribb going in and out. Yeah, like insider information 874 00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,479 Speaker 1: that they're going to it's a chicken nugget or egg 875 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:04,840 Speaker 1: McMuffin situation, that's right. What came first? The chicken nugget 876 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,680 Speaker 1: or the egg McMuffin. Nobody knew. I don't know, so 877 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,359 Speaker 1: that that makes a lot of sense. But it's yeah, 878 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:16,080 Speaker 1: like we said, it's the same strategy that musical acts do, 879 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 1: and that infuriate people like the so Ozzy Osborne had 880 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,839 Speaker 1: been no More Tours tour when he was, you know, 881 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 1: initially retiring, I think in and then in twenty nineteen, 882 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,759 Speaker 1: no more tours to share, LCD sound System, the who, 883 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:40,759 Speaker 1: like every genre, like they've all said goodbye. I think 884 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:45,160 Speaker 1: Trent did it. Yeah, goodbye tour. I they he duped 885 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 1: me for that. I was like, I'm there trying, Yeah, 886 00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 1: let's go, and then I'm like, he's still going. I 887 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,760 Speaker 1: think the balls ist was shared did a farewell, multiple 888 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,719 Speaker 1: farewell tours, and then at one point she did a 889 00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 1: farewell tour and moved directly onto a Vegas residence here 890 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:04,200 Speaker 1: for three years. Yeah. I think the reason it works 891 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,600 Speaker 1: is that, uh. I mean, like, so when you saw 892 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,239 Speaker 1: when you were duped by Trent, you weren't bummed that 893 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,080 Speaker 1: you went to the show, you know, not so he's back. 894 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,000 Speaker 1: Oh that's only good news. You're never like I went 895 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,000 Speaker 1: to one farewell show and I don't want to go 896 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 1: to another one. Yeah, not at all. I was like 897 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,200 Speaker 1: I was there like two years later when he did 898 00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 1: another tour, and I was like, yeah, yeah, great, great grade, 899 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:24,960 Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm here, I'm here next to a guy 900 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 1: who was juggling l ed fucking balls next to me 901 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,799 Speaker 1: while I was tripping, and it was the most annoying thing. 902 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,200 Speaker 1: There's a guy I remember. I think it was outside, 903 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,040 Speaker 1: and I forget which tour. I like, big festival they 904 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,319 Speaker 1: were at. I was next to some guy who was 905 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:43,480 Speaker 1: juggling the whole fucking show like light up balls, and 906 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, this is a fun this is too much 907 00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,719 Speaker 1: for me anyway. But all that to say, I'm not 908 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,759 Speaker 1: mad at when a Fairworld tour goes on. But yeah, 909 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,279 Speaker 1: if it's good, if they do a good job, that's 910 00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 1: that's fantastic. Or it's also the Disney Vault, they'll do that. 911 00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:02,200 Speaker 1: Yeah it's closing, which is so weird. Yeah, we only 912 00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,359 Speaker 1: can open it for Yeah. It almost like I had 913 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,799 Speaker 1: an idea of the Disney Vault that was like a 914 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,879 Speaker 1: like magical crypt that they could only open for like 915 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,040 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks at a time. It's like, wait 916 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,160 Speaker 1: a second, this company has total control to do whatever 917 00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,520 Speaker 1: the funk they won't whenever the folk they want. Yeah, 918 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 1: it's just a sales moratorium, that's what we call it, 919 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:26,120 Speaker 1: more than anything, rather than like did did Walt's Ghost? 920 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,359 Speaker 1: Let us look at the tapes again. But I will 921 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,840 Speaker 1: say just with LCD sounds sound system, I'll never James 922 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:36,399 Speaker 1: Murphy played himself. I thought they were done years ago, 923 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:40,400 Speaker 1: and they're ever fucking everywhere again, like especially this last summer. 924 00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 1: I was like, I thought y'all were fucking done. Yeah, 925 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,520 Speaker 1: look I get it. They have fans. Yeah. Barbara Streisand's 926 00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,960 Speaker 1: fans actually tried to sue her after paying for hefty 927 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 1: ticket prices for her first farewell tour, and so she did. 928 00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,480 Speaker 1: She went on a farewell tour in two thousand grossed 929 00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,960 Speaker 1: fixed fifty six million dollars. And then when she announced 930 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,280 Speaker 1: that she would be saying goodbye again in two thousand 931 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,600 Speaker 1: and six, so that's they like they need to be 932 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:10,560 Speaker 1: keeping track of, Like, Okay, that's too soon, Barber strais 933 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 1: And people will like literally sue you and it will 934 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:17,040 Speaker 1: become a news story. But the mcribs like goes away 935 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,240 Speaker 1: every couple of years, so we don't like for fickle 936 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:24,520 Speaker 1: lawsuits and stuff. The shorthand has been speaking of McDonald's, 937 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,440 Speaker 1: you know, the suing for coffee being too hot, but 938 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 1: it maybe should be suing for not doing a proper 939 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:35,080 Speaker 1: farewell tour streisand you know, yeah, well, and the coffee 940 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,880 Speaker 1: too hot thing is a great example of like corporations 941 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,520 Speaker 1: having control over like how our media works. Because the 942 00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,839 Speaker 1: person who got burned by their coffee like McDonald's, had 943 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,600 Speaker 1: been warned by consumer groups like your coffee is way 944 00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,880 Speaker 1: too hot, like if somebody spilled it on themselves, they 945 00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,400 Speaker 1: will have like third degree burns, Like you need to 946 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,520 Speaker 1: chill out with how fucking hot your coffee is. They 947 00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:59,440 Speaker 1: ignored those warnings. The person had like permanent skin damage 948 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,799 Speaker 1: from the hot coffee. Uh, And we're all like, oh, yeah, 949 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,239 Speaker 1: there's there's that asshole. Like I only learned that like 950 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,640 Speaker 1: years after I had been telling you know us, Yeah 951 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,040 Speaker 1: that was that was myth busted uh recently. Yeah. The 952 00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,719 Speaker 1: best way to do a farewell tour this is the 953 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,799 Speaker 1: Bob Dylan method is always seem like you are on 954 00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,279 Speaker 1: the verge of death and just stay touring. I went 955 00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,520 Speaker 1: and saw Bob Dylan in like two thousand six, and 956 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,560 Speaker 1: I was like, this motherfucker is might not make it 957 00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:35,080 Speaker 1: through this show. He's and then he's he's still touring. 958 00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:39,320 Speaker 1: He's been on permanent tour for the last thirty years. 959 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,600 Speaker 1: He's actually it's just laughing, counting him and he's like 960 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:47,680 Speaker 1: goose dumb s O B S dying Yeah, and then 961 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:49,960 Speaker 1: comes out like he's like I can clean a jerk 962 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,960 Speaker 1: three hundred pounds, man, thing fucking with me? But is 963 00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,560 Speaker 1: there any like, is there anything to being able to 964 00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,560 Speaker 1: sue for for an artist saying this is the fair 965 00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:01,920 Speaker 1: wet like to come out to say that this is 966 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,120 Speaker 1: the last time. But I guess it's hard to say 967 00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,560 Speaker 1: because you can't be like, you know, you have the 968 00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,200 Speaker 1: right as a human being to be like, you know, 969 00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,840 Speaker 1: actually I wanted to come out of retirement, you know 970 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,239 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like that's not obviously illegal, but they're 971 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,400 Speaker 1: clearly obviously like in the in terms of like someone's 972 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:21,160 Speaker 1: motivation to buy a ticket at a higher price, hearing 973 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,800 Speaker 1: that this could be the last time you'll see them 974 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:28,960 Speaker 1: clearly would add extra motivation. Yeah, And my theory is 975 00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:32,600 Speaker 1: that it's not necessarily the artist's fault. It's I think 976 00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,239 Speaker 1: the artist is like, yeah, I'm pretty good, like I'm 977 00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,239 Speaker 1: ready to retire. And I think this goes for boxers 978 00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:42,279 Speaker 1: who come out of retirement, but they are not. Once 979 00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,920 Speaker 1: you're famous and like, you know, you have an entire 980 00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,839 Speaker 1: companies where the people making money off of everything you do. 981 00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:54,360 Speaker 1: You are no longer really in control of your own life. 982 00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:58,000 Speaker 1: And so you know, the people that you surround yourself with, 983 00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:01,279 Speaker 1: the people you get business advice from, are all going 984 00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,399 Speaker 1: to be pushing you to come out of retirement, even 985 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,600 Speaker 1: if it's bad for you, even if it's like shitty 986 00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:11,000 Speaker 1: to your customers. Like there is. You are like in 987 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,160 Speaker 1: an information bubble of people who are like the people 988 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,200 Speaker 1: are calling for it, barbed like, we gotta do it. 989 00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:22,719 Speaker 1: I guess nobody calls Barbara Streis and Barbara Babs jack 990 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:24,920 Speaker 1: Well and or Ozzy Osborne. You know, he did his 991 00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:26,760 Speaker 1: No More Tours and then but he had no idea 992 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,439 Speaker 1: he was gonna do like this huge hit reality show 993 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:33,480 Speaker 1: and his whole family was gonna become crazy famous. And 994 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,480 Speaker 1: it's also like he might not have had any idea 995 00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,360 Speaker 1: he was doing the No More Tours Part two until 996 00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,520 Speaker 1: like they were like, yeah, I just walked through that door, 997 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,960 Speaker 1: walked out. It was the stadium full of people. Yeah. 998 00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,600 Speaker 1: That that feels like one that's especially predatory. I mean, 999 00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,839 Speaker 1: I think it's funny. Like the last time I was like, wait, 1000 00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,879 Speaker 1: they're not retired was jay Z Because I was such 1001 00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:55,800 Speaker 1: a jay Z fan, and then one of the blueprints, 1002 00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:57,799 Speaker 1: and when the Black album came on, like damn, that's 1003 00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,840 Speaker 1: a good way to go out. Yeah. Got then the 1004 00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:06,480 Speaker 1: subsequent albums, I'm like, bro, what the fund is this ship? 1005 00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,600 Speaker 1: Because like none of his like latter day albums, like 1006 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,279 Speaker 1: ranking his top five, I'm like at all, but I 1007 00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,360 Speaker 1: get for him. He was like, man, they're you know what, 1008 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,479 Speaker 1: they're still buying this ship. We can put Magna Carta. 1009 00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:20,040 Speaker 1: Holy Grail is like a download on Samsung phones. Fuck it, babe, 1010 00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:24,239 Speaker 1: they're back. I think there's a reason people do the 1011 00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,279 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go out on top like they usually when 1012 00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,719 Speaker 1: people do that, they have some instincts that like they're 1013 00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:33,240 Speaker 1: not staying on top for that much longer, and then 1014 00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,840 Speaker 1: when they do come out of retirement, it's it usually 1015 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,560 Speaker 1: gives a pretty good I don't know, like I'm thinking 1016 00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,880 Speaker 1: of jay Z, thinking of like Seinfeldt is another example 1017 00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,480 Speaker 1: where people are like they're going out on top and 1018 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:47,480 Speaker 1: like their last season wasn't their best season, but it 1019 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:51,440 Speaker 1: was still like good enough. But then when you know 1020 00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:56,480 Speaker 1: seinfeld does stand up after that, it's just he's not 1021 00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:00,040 Speaker 1: there anymore. Man, It's no good. But he has a 1022 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,120 Speaker 1: fashion I com so we can, oh yeah, look up 1023 00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:06,400 Speaker 1: to him. That all right, that's gonna do it for 1024 00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:10,520 Speaker 1: this week's weekly Zeite. Guys, please like and review the show. 1025 00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:15,000 Speaker 1: If you like the show, uh means the world to Miles. 1026 00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:19,520 Speaker 1: He needs your validation. Folks. I hope you're having a 1027 00:56:19,560 --> 00:57:01,400 Speaker 1: great weekend and I will talk to you Monday. By