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Speaker 1: so I'll give, I'll give, We'll say, We'll say Washington

428
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Speaker 1: A s U cal usc Oregon, Utah. Utah is the

429
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 1: class of the Pack twelve right now, despite the fact

430
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Speaker 1: that they can't convince a single four star recruit or

431
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: even a three star recruit, or even any recruit with

432
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: any pulse from any state that has a PAC twolve

433
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: school in it to commit to their school. How weird

434
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 1: is that? Unbelievable? Dude, unbelievable? And do you know what

435
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: the even crazy? Okay, So here's what the craziest part

436
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: about Utah is this. So there were some things that

437
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: we thought that were locks in the Pack twelve, like

438
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: games that you could just say, all right, cool, whatever,

439
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a guaranteed win. Um. Truth be told.

440
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: Everything on paper looks like Colorado is going to get

441
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: hammered by Utah. Right all the information that we have,

442
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: Colorado is either eleventh or twelfth in every important defensive

443
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: statistical category. Stephen Montes is awful. Sometimes there's bad Stephen

444
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 1: Montez and there's good Stephen Montes, and but still they

445
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: still find a way to win games. So I am

446
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: not I'm telling you this route. I am not counting Utah.

447
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Colorado out of this Utah game. Then it

448
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 1: would be so packed twelve for Colorado to get ball

449
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 1: eligible and knock the knock Utah out of the college

450
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: football playoff conversation. Can you think of anything more pactable

451
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: than that? That would be such an enormous headache. But

452
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: I mean it could technically, it could happen. I don't

453
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Speaker 1: I don't see a path for it, not with the

454
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Speaker 1: way that Organs play or with the way that Utah

455
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: is playing right now. Utah is playing right now dominant

456
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: football and so and I know you could have said

457
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: the same thing about um Oregon going into the Arizona

458
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: State game. But like that was in Tempi. That's always

459
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: been a for some reason, even though when you play

460
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: a game at Sundevil Stadium of the fans or your fans,

461
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: everybody struggles in Tempe. I've never understood it. There's not

462
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Speaker 1: anything I mean, it's it's a beautiful playing surface, it's

463
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: a it's fair weather and for some reason, teams you know,

464
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're out there on Mill Avenue

465
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: having a good time the night before. But I've I

466
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: honestly have never understood Arizona State's home field advantage. Yet

467
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: you know it comes in a play that's not going

468
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: to be a factor when when it's Utah and Colorado. Um,

469
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: so I don't see that happening, but I'm sure that,

470
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Speaker 1: I'm sure that it would be a funny day on

471
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: the internet. There'd be ten times more Larry Scott memes

472
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: if that happened then there were this weekend. Yeah, and okay,

473
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: so we can get into the games at this well,

474
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: I see, before we even get into the game games,

475
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: let's let's go over coaches. I want to go through

476
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: every team in the conference real real quick, and you

477
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: tell me if you believe their coach is safe or

478
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: not safe from from being fired this season. Okay, so

479
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: you got um, Utah, We'll we'll just go with the

480
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: easy ones first. Utah. I mean, Whittingham is there forever.

481
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: I'm sure that that that if a vacancy opens up

482
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Speaker 1: elsewhere in the Pact twelve, and I think you know

483
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: the one that I'm talking about the USA. There there

484
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: will be an argument that they should chase somebody like

485
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: with a serious football mind who's going to develop players

486
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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden also have access to

487
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: the best talent on the entire West coast. Um. There

488
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: will be people who make that argument. So obviously I

489
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: do not believe that. You know, there have to be

490
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: some pretty shady stuff to come out, um for for

491
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: Kyle Whittingham to to lose his job at at Utah.

492
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: But there's a sliver, sliver, sliver of a chance that

493
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: maybe he ends up somewhere else, if somebody really backs

494
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: up the Brinks truck um and lures him away. But no,

495
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: he's he's good. A agree, he's going nowhere unless it's

496
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: to USC probably um Oregon. Is Mario Christoval safe, Yeah,

497
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: he's safe. I don't know if he's safe from you know,

498
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: sec vacancies, but yeah, he's he in um. You know,

499
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: as long as they don't lose the civil war and

500
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: then turn, as long as they don't end the season

501
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: on some giant skid, as long as the wheels don't

502
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: fall off. I feel like most of his assistants are

503
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: safe now. Now now that I don't know, I want

504
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: Marcus Arroyo to go get a head coaching job. He's

505
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: an obvious fantastic recruiter. He's gotten better as a coordinator.

506
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: But I would not be. I mean I wouldn't be.

507
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: It wouldn't be terrible bring him back, because he's gotten

508
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: significantly better from year one a year two of being

509
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: a coordinator, and your three should only make that even

510
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: even better. I I would assume, so. Um So I

511
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: don't mind. I don't mind anybody saying on the staff.

512
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: Um I do, though, I think that Christo Baul is

513
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: safe from all sec jobs that could come open. The

514
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: only one that could get a little tricky is if

515
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: they mess around and fire Manny Diaz in Miami because

516
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: them dudes are they were losing to f a U

517
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: f I U four teen zero. They got players dancing

518
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: on the sidelines. Come on, man, come on man, it's

519
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: like the Cleveland Browns down there right now. Um you

520
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: got okay, Oregon State safe or not safe? Oh, he's

521
00:32:55,600 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: he's a god there right now. I mean they obviously, um,

522
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: they obviously probably deserve to be in a bowl game

523
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: and aren't going to be in one. Um. My phone

524
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: phones going often eight in the morning out here. Um.

525
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,239
Speaker 1: But no, he's I mean they should just sign him

526
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: to a lifetime contract right now. Oh yeah, he's doing

527
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: a great job, fantastic UM, Arizona State, HERMS safe. I mean,

528
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: unless he decides that he wants to be back on

529
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: TV or something like that. It's really you know, what's

530
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: going to be really interesting is what he does at

531
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, because you know they're he has an offensive

532
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: coordinator in Rob Likns, who he was sort of saddled

533
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: with when Billy napier Head faked and said, yeah, I'll

534
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: stay on his Herms offensive coordinator and then went to

535
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: the University of Louisiana Lafayette, where he's led them to

536
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: a nine and two record in his second year as

537
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: as their head coach. UM. But so it'll be interesting

538
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: to see if he decides to make a change an

539
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, but they'll probably want to keep some continuity

540
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: for Jane Daniels. I don't see really any changes being made.

541
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: Herm is there as long as Ray Anderson is there.

542
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: I always looked at this as a five or six

543
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: year higher um for a phase of his life that

544
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: he wants to see if he can still, you know,

545
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: coach some football and develop some young men and hang

546
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 1: out with He's got Marvin Lewis out here too, and

547
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: so and maybe Marvin Lewis would be a candidate for

548
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: one of these jobs that that that opens. You never know.

549
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 1: But he's out here with his friends in the sun,

550
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: you know, in good weather, raising his daughters and as

551
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: long as he can get the assistance right or develop them, Um,

552
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: he's gonna be here for it doesn't matter. They could

553
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,879
Speaker 1: go six and six for the next three years. And

554
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: if Ray Anderson wants to keep him, you know he's gonna.

555
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: I totally agree there, um caw with um with Justin Wilcox.

556
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 1: Is he safe? I think honestly, like he's the He's

557
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: the one that I'm the most worried will get picked up.

558
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: But everybody that I talked to says that, like, no,

559
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: he's in the perfect environment for him and for his personality.

560
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 1: And he's not that way. He's not that guy that

561
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: would be interested in leaving or flirting with leaving like

562
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: Mike Leach always does. But you never know what coaches.

563
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: I don't trust. Oh that I I think that is

564
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: completely whoever told you that is completely I think off

565
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 1: the rails wrong because even you push back, George, when

566
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: I when I brought up the fact that he'd be

567
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: perfect at USC, you said that that's just not an environment.

568
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: But is there a number? Is there a number that

569
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: would make that the environment for at USC? No, And

570
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: that's only and the only reason why I pushed back

571
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 1: on USC in particular because he had already been at USC,

572
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: did not have success at USC, didn't want to go

573
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: back to USC. So that's what I would saying. I

574
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: was just specifically talking USC. But justin Wilcox has been

575
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: at big time programs and he knows that you have

576
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: to be able to recruit, you have to be able

577
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: to keep coaches on staff, you have to be able

578
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: to pay people real money. So so you can see

579
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 1: him doing He's gonna lose some of this musical chairs

580
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: type deal. If like if USC was to take Peterson

581
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 1: or or USC was to take Winningham, that Wilcox would

582
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: then be like the number one target for those two schools. Well,

583
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: I mean, he's not leaving Cow to go to Utah,

584
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: but he would he would take a he would consider,

585
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: like if he would consider a big step up job

586
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: where where he was like, Okay, this is my final job.

587
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: But the problem is is that he won't be up

588
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: I don't think for those top tier jobs because Col's

589
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: offense had been bad, so he's the defense is obviously good,

590
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: but he has to show that. Okay, now I can

591
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: put together a complete team even if they even if

592
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: they go eight and four, that'll be a win. I mean,

593
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: that's that. That's how Matt Campbell at Iowa State is

594
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: on everybody's radar. He's winning at a place that is

595
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,959
Speaker 1: hard to win at. Thinks not a well, think about

596
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: how weird what you just said is you just were

597
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 1: so able to easily dismiss like he's not gonna leave

598
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: cal for Utah. That would be that would be like

599
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: that would be like saying like, oh, Matt Campbell is

600
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: not gonna leave Iowa State for Oklahoma and that's not No,

601
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: that's not the same thing. But in the standings this year,

602
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: it is you talk could compete on hold on, hold on.

603
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: If Utah wins a national championship, George, if Utah wins

604
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: a national championship, we have to put respect on their name.

605
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: If you Talk goes to a college football playoff, we

606
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: have to put respect on their name as the class

607
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 1: of the pack twelve. It would be you're gonna put

608
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: respect on No, you're gonna put respect on Cayle Whittingham's

609
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 1: name because you just said it. They can't get four

610
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: star recruits, barely get three star recruits, can't recruiting California nowhere,

611
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: So no, no sensible human being like Justin Wilcox is

612
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: going to leave cal who he's able to start recruiting now,

613
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,720
Speaker 1: he's recruiting better now and leave to go to Utah.

614
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: That is a disaster of That would be a nonsensical

615
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: move that I mean, like, no offense to Utah the

616
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: people that you taugh. But cal Whittingham and his staff

617
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: has developed these guys. They they find guys that fit

618
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: their system. And finding guy and consistently finding guys to

619
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: quote unquote fit your system, get them to come and

620
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: hit is more difficult than it is at at going

621
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Speaker 1: to a school where it is easy to get four

622
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: and five star recruits. Imagine what Cayl Whittingham could do

623
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 1: with with the kids at USC. Imagine what he could do.

624
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: He's doing this with dudes at Utah who are there's

625
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: gonna be a couple of guys who are first round

626
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: picks because they had talent and they were coached up

627
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: and developed. Now imagine coaching up and developing uh like better,

628
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: higher quality athletes overall, like your entire roster from Justin

629
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: flowah Sel and all those five circuits. Yeah, but so,

630
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: But here's what I'm saying is it's not impossible to

631
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: recruit to Salt Lake. Like at some point we're gonna

632
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: have to say, oh, winning him wants these players. He's

633
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: just I don't know if they've got the staff that

634
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: can get them. Because if you can get kids to

635
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,919
Speaker 1: Denver like Mel Tucker has been doing, then you can

636
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: get kids to Salt Lake City. And now they'll tell

637
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: you all, we're getting our kind of guys. But I

638
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: see the guys who turned you Saw down. They offer

639
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: those four star prospects just like anybody else, George, those

640
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: four star prospects just don't want to go up there.

641
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: But will would a national championship change that? And I'm

642
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: just saying if somebody, if somebody comes, and if somebody says, hey,

643
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna pay you Jimbo Fisher money and Kyle Whittingham

644
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: leaves Utah, the fact that we're sitting here talking about

645
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: the fact that they couldn't even get Justin Wilcox to

646
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: leave cal is hilarious to me because we'd be talking

647
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: about a national champion or College Football Playoff participant Utah

648
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: not being able to lure a coach away who went

649
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: six and six at a school that doesn't even really

650
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 1: have any resources to keep him around. And that's just

651
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: It's just all I'm saying is you're not wrong, and

652
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 1: that's what makes Utah the most unique situation in the country. Okay, okay,

653
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: I can I can I can hear that now? All right?

654
00:40:55,640 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: So is um geez dude, there's some any coaches there?

655
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: Um mail mail melt Tucker. Is he safe at five

656
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: and six? Absolutely not. He's not safe to come back

657
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: because he It's it's becoming very very, very very clear

658
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,240
Speaker 1: that he has the special sauce as a head coach,

659
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: and he is from Georgia. If I was. If I'm

660
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: a Colorado Buffalos fan right now, I'm I spend every

661
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: single day scared to death. The nice thing for Colorado, though,

662
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: is if somebody was to come and grab melt Tucker,

663
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: like if even if it let's say it was like

664
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: Georgia State or something that the head coaching job opened up,

665
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: and they're sort of on the up and up in

666
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: the Sun Belt out there, and let's say that they

667
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 1: just wanted him to come back to Atlanta, and you know,

668
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: would he would he take that? If if if are

669
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: you did you say Georgia's State, I should come through

670
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 1: the microphone and strangle you right now. I'm just saying

671
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: Georgia's State. Georgia States a grade school. But like if

672
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 1: if if you had a school from from the SEC,

673
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: or if you had a school like Georgia State or

674
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Speaker 1: something like that that would bring him back home. If

675
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: you had something like that, I would be worried. Georgia Tech.

676
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 1: But like if if you had that, you would I

677
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: think that you would have to worry. The nice thing

678
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: for Colorado is he has given Darren Shiverini more responsibilities

679
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: and I think that that he would sort of be

680
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: no matter what happens with melt Tucker, you would have

681
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 1: Darren shiverin and to promote right away to be the

682
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: head coach. I don't think that you, but I I

683
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: if I'm Colorado, I would be worried. I think I'm

684
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: I see so much early positive returns for UM Colorado,

685
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: especially with the way that they're Honestly, Colorado is like

686
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: three or four plays away from being eight and three,

687
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: which is crazy, but they are. It's the god's honest truth.

688
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: They're like three or four plays away from being eight

689
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: and three in melt Tucker's first year as a head coach,

690
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: and they're getting guys to come out and recruits are excited.

691
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:07,479
Speaker 1: Um if I if I was and he is from

692
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: the Southeast, if one of those head coaching jobs opens

693
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: and and they think that he can because SEC teams

694
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 1: don't care about if they think someone can help them

695
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 1: right away, then they will go and get them. And

696
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: so um, I fully expect melt Tucker to be the

697
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: head coach at Colorado for you know, next year and

698
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: the year after and everything like that. But also also

699
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: I definitely believe that that's that is a trouble, uh

700
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 1: for for the PAC twelve to hold onto a coach

701
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: like that in a market like that. Will will they

702
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: have the resources to keep him if he keeps them

703
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: on the trajectory they're on right now. I don't see

704
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: Meil Tucker moving this year. I think he's a He's

705
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to be a Willie Tagger, because everybody

706
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: sees how that ended up. If he gets Colorado, if

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00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: he stays at Colorado for another year or two and

708
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: they and to move on, he's not gonna move on

709
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: from it. Here's here's the truth. He's not gonna move

710
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: on from Colorado for a small stepping stone job. If

711
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: he were to be offered, you know, like if Florida

712
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: some reason opened up, if Georgia opened up, if Texas

713
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: opened up, you know, like a premier program opened up,

714
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: he would leave Colorado. However, but I don't think he's

715
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 1: leaving for Mississippi State. He's not leaving for you know,

716
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: a Arkansas, a middling job that is essentially a lateral move.

717
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: He's not leaving for that. He's leaving when an upper tier,

718
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: echelon job comes available and he's the guy that's That's

719
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: when he'll move. Aside from that, he's not going anywhere,

720
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: um just because it took him so long to get

721
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: a head coaching job that he understands. Hold up, I'm

722
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: not gonna be the bounce around guy like, yes, yes,

723
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: I want my coin. But as long as particularly he's

724
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: got a if he's got a good quarterback, coming back

725
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: teams looking good, team like, yeah, nah, I'll wait till

726
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: this is the job I really want. Um, how about

727
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly at u c l A one A million

728
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:18,479
Speaker 1: percent safe? It's a process. I believe they're fully bought

729
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: into the fact that it's a process. I mean, the

730
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: results are gonna matter next year, and they're and they're

731
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: getting better there. They are getting better. You can actually

732
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: see the results, like you can see things working. Um,

733
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: And they do need to recruit a little bit better.

734
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: But we're getting to the point where everybody on the

735
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: West coast who is recruiting, well, their classes are all full,

736
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: so some of these kids have no choice but to

737
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: commit to u c l A. So, but it's honestly

738
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 1: getting to that point where where like, really really good

739
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: kids are going to have u c l A to

740
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: choose and really not a whole lot of other places

741
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: to go, especially if they want to stay in the

742
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: in the south West, um, and not be in Tucson.

743
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: So you know that that's that's just kind of the

744
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 1: way the cookie. The cookie crumbles, And and I think

745
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: that because you see things getting better, could he be

746
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: on the hot seat a little bit next year? If

747
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: things don't improve. Yeah, but I also don't see it

748
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 1: that happening that way because you see incremental and improvements.

749
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: You see them building from the foundation up and so

750
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: um are those assistants what he needs to be able

751
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 1: to get that done? That's probably my biggest question. But

752
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: now I think he's one safe. Yeah, I totally see

753
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,240
Speaker 1: you see l A going eight and four next season,

754
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: like they they they're non conference games are New Mexico State,

755
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: Hawaii and San Diego State. They should be able to

756
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: after a couple of years, you know, you know, like

757
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: you'll have some of these guys to be juniors, all

758
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: of this stuff, and hopefully he can fix Dorian Thompson

759
00:46:56,040 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: Robinson from making bone head scratching mistakes. Um uh. Now

760
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 1: on to to the Arizona Amstein's, which I have. I

761
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: totally forgot about them, the Arizona Amsden's. Is your boy

762
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: Kevin Sumlin safe because I don't. I don't think so.

763
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: And you had a great tweet because I brought up

764
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:25,240
Speaker 1: to you that it seems like he's sabotaging his season

765
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: with this quarterback situation, and you had a a wonderful tweet.

766
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: You can tell that you can tell the people. I

767
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: just said that with fiveouts the way they are today.

768
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: If if I saw the opportunity to get like a J.

769
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: G went with get my cash now a type situation,

770
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: then maybe I'm not putting in my best effort either.

771
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: If you can sign a five year deal, work one

772
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 1: year and still get that five year money, what what

773
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,439
Speaker 1: are you doing? Why wouldn't you do that? Like I've

774
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: pay me, you know and so. But that's me and

775
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a terrible person. I'm I'm not a terrible person.

776
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,439
Speaker 1: I'm not a competitive person. It would not be worth

777
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: it for me to go through the grind of being

778
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 1: a big time college football coach to have temporary success

779
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: only to do it all over again next year. Rather

780
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,240
Speaker 1: than just have someone hand me a check for twenty

781
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 1: million dollars, I'll take the check for twenty million million

782
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: dollars and I'll go buy myself a life that makes

783
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 1: it feel like I want something. Um, you know and so.

784
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: I I don't think the University of Arizona has the

785
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: resources to be making any changes, especially after they just

786
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: had to pay out Rich rod Um. That being said,

787
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: this is one of the all time garbage coaching jobs

788
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: that has been done anywhere that I don't. That doesn't

789
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: mean that I think that it won't get better. I

790
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: think that it will get better. I think that they'll

791
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: have the personnel to do some positive things next year.

792
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 1: But this year, specifically, they took an eight and four team,

793
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: made it four and eight, and made it ugly and

794
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: not fun to watch in the process. This is terrible.

795
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: At least Ritrod's teams were fun. This is not fun

796
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: at all. This has been tortured to watch. Ah, that

797
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:26,240
Speaker 1: is that is an understatement. I totally agree. Um, Kevin

798
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: Sumlin is like he's It just shows that he hasn't

799
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: been much without Johnny Manzil. He hasn't been able to

800
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: recruit at Arizona, no pipeline from Texas. Nothing positive has

801
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: been going on, and and the future does not look brighter. Um,

802
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: the Athletic just dropped a really harsh article. And I

803
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 1: mean the author are Alexander He's a you of a lum,

804
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: but he's like the Athletics Cleveland Browns writer. So everyone's like,

805
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: why is the Cleveland writer writing like a hit piece

806
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 1: on Kevin something? Well, it's because he's a U of

807
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: a alum and he sees what's going on down there,

808
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 1: and he's probably like home for Thanksgiving or something and

809
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,760
Speaker 1: used it as an excuse to write about the program.

810
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: But he went out to one of the same high

811
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: school games that I was at, um South Point Catholic,

812
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: which is about three miles away from University of Arizona's campus,

813
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 1: where four star Lathan Ransom who was headed to Ohio State,

814
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: five star by Jean Robinson who was headed to play

815
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: running back at Texas, and m Bruno Fena, whose dad

816
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,399
Speaker 1: John Fina, played at You of a h is an

817
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: offensive lineman that's headed to u C l A. And

818
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: Kevin Sumone has a kid on the team. His name

819
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: is Jackson someone, and he's a junior tight end. And

820
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: Kevin Sumlin doesn't even ever go over there. They got

821
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: four and five star recruits everywhere at a school that's

822
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: three miles from University of Arizona's campus where his son plays,

823
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: and he didn't recruit hard at that school, and so

824
00:50:56,480 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: like yeah, yep, And so that that caused a little

825
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 1: bit of a stir down here that oh, some national

826
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: writer for the athlete it wasn't even a national writer

827
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: for the athletic gets somebody who had a you have

828
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 1: a education who was sick of what was happening at

829
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,760
Speaker 1: you of a who used the athletic platform to bash

830
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: Kevin Someone's recruiting practices, saying that he's got the swag copter,

831
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: but he won't even landed at the school that's three

832
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: miles away where his son is on the team, and

833
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: the head the head coach had some pretty brutal things

834
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: to say as well about just Arizona not putting any

835
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 1: effort with his kids, which makes it awkward again, Jackson,

836
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: someone is on the team, but you know, I don't

837
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: know it. Just Mike Leach. Is Mike Leach safe at

838
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: Washington State? No, I think he should probably be that.

839
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: I think that would be wise for him to return.

840
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: He's in the perfect place when I bring this up

841
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 1: all the time, there is no better place on God's

842
00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: green Earth for Mike Leach than Pulman Washington UM. But

843
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: his name keeps getting brought up every single time with

844
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: every single one of these jobs. The Arkansas thing, you know,

845
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 1: offense is sexy like that. That's how Cliff Kingsbury failed

846
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: his way up to chain into being an offensive coordinator

847
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 1: for USC for two weeks and then the head coach

848
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals because he could score. And so

849
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: if you if you can put points on the board,

850
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 1: the assumption is that you can at least figure out

851
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: how to put a staff together that might stop somebody someday.

852
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: So he's gonna his name is gonna be attached to

853
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: every single job. Um, I'm gonna say that he's back

854
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 1: next year. UM, don't depend on that, but I would

855
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: say he will. He will recognize that he's in the

856
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: best place for him. He's getting a pretty penny already.

857
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: Just do I think that, whether it's this year or

858
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: sometime soon, he's getting out of Poma. I think he

859
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,879
Speaker 1: likes it there and he likes coaching there. But at

860
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 1: the same time he has to wonder what it's like

861
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 1: to coach. To be able to recruit better, he's got to.

862
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,800
Speaker 1: I mean, his name is gonna be up for the

863
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 1: Florida State job, is gonna be up for the Arkansas job,

864
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: and probably a number of other jobs that come that

865
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: come open. So and with the with the way USC's

866
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: offense has looked at times under Graham Harrold, might they

867
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: even consider Mike Leech if they don't, you know, depending

868
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: on what happens and all of that. So yeah, so

869
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: I don't think that might might might Leech is safe

870
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: from being fired, but he's not safe from leaving. You

871
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,959
Speaker 1: don't keep flirting and then just keep going back back home.

872
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: If you keep flirting, one of these times, you're gonna

873
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: you're gonna tell the kids that you're that you're going

874
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: out for cigarettes and you're you're not gonna come back home.

875
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: That's what's gonna happen at Washington State. How about Stanford?

876
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: What do you think I he missed an opportunity. I

877
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: think that David Shaw. I mean you and I talked

878
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: about this all season long. I said it before the season. Yeah,

879
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: I think that David Shaw should because every year one

880
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: third of the NFL's jobs come open. I think that

881
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:20,399
Speaker 1: David Shaw should maybe take a look at doing something else.

882
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: I know he's a Stanford a lum. I know he's

883
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 1: had a ton of success there, and I know that

884
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: Stanford can actually stomach not winning because they did that

885
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 1: for a really, really long time. Um, I don't think

886
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: he's comfortable with not being one of the conference's best teams.

887
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: It sort of gives him a pulpit to equivocate from

888
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: you know, when Stanford is good, it gives David Shaw

889
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: the platform to speak about the things that he wants

890
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: to see different and changed about college football, even though

891
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 1: not a lot of it's going his way right now.

892
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: Um but as a three and nine Stanford team or

893
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: something like that, you real, I think anyone's gonna care

894
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 1: what he has to say about anything. I don't so,

895
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 1: ye where would they turn to? I also don't know

896
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: what they would do without him, dude, Maybe maybe Jim,

897
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: Maybe Jim Harball gets sick, Jim of losing Ohio State

898
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: and comes back. Yeah. I just there's anyway that Jim

899
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: Harball leaves Michigan at this point. Like he already put

900
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: his foot in his mouth. He already said there's you know,

901
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 1: like read my lips, no new taxes. That was too

902
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:34,879
Speaker 1: So he can't leave at this point. If he leaves

903
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 1: at this point, he has a jerk. He is a

904
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 1: He's a hundred percent jerk. Even if it is to

905
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 1: return to Stanford. That's a horrendous move. Um. Yeah, I

906
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 1: think that David Shaw missed an opportunity. He missed an

907
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,399
Speaker 1: opportunity to go to the NFL because Stanford's broken. I'm

908
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: telling you they are broken. This is not a situation

909
00:55:56,680 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 1: to where you know that something is going going to

910
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: get better quickly. The you know, he's kind of has

911
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: a head coach. I'm sorry, I kind of has a

912
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: starting quarterback. But this is I don't know, man, stan

913
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 1: Stanford just does not look great for the future. The

914
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:20,919
Speaker 1: good news is is that they have at least one

915
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: free win next year. They got what William and Mary,

916
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: then they play at Notre Dame. Well, and they play

917
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 1: at Notre Dame and then they play b y U

918
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 1: in November. So I don't know, man, I I don't know,

919
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 1: because um Sataki at b y you just got an

920
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 1: extension even though the games at Palo Alto. I'm not

921
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: a leaver. I'm I'm not a believer in what's going

922
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 1: on at Stanford. I don't know if David Shaw can

923
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: fix it. And if he doesn't get it fixed, he has,

924
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 1: like you know what I say, strike when the iron

925
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:56,879
Speaker 1: is hot. If he doesn't get it fixed next year,

926
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,760
Speaker 1: he would have missed striking. He he would have missed

927
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 1: the tire ambul that hit himself in their knee. Um,

928
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 1: even though he would have made twenty some million dollars

929
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:09,720
Speaker 1: in the process or thirty million dollars in the process. Um,

930
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:13,879
Speaker 1: now we got I guess the the the two most

931
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 1: controversial jobs right now. Weirdly, you got the Washington Huskies

932
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: Chris Peterson. There's been so many people screaming about Chris

933
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 1: Peterson being fired and all of this. And it's one

934
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 1: of those weird things because if you look at his

935
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: history and his career, he's obviously been a really you know,

936
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 1: it was very successful at Poisey State. But in the

937
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: Pact twelve, Washington has not played a good conference a

938
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: good nonconference schedule like pretty much his entire time there,

939
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: Like they just have it. So I'm just sitting here

940
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 1: and their fans are saying, what are his signature winds?

941
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: Like he beat Oregon while they were bad. He doesn't

942
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 1: have a great record against Stanford. What he has a

943
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: losing record against Stanford. So fans are wondering, They're like, yo,

944
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: what is going on? Like, yes, you can be Eastern Washington,

945
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: Hawaii and b y U. But what happens when next

946
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: year when you when you gotta play Michigan, what what happens? Then? Well,

947
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 1: they were they were Oregon before Oregon. Uh, coming down

948
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 1: to Tempe with the top five team in the country,

949
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: undefeated and losing to a bad Arizona State team. So

950
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, he's he's had some They obviously they

951
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 1: got beat up in the fiestabole Um by se Kwon Berkley.

952
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 1: They I'm starting to see it. I'm starting to see it. Um.

953
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 1: I'm not really sure, though, I think that he deserves

954
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: all the chances in the world because I remember what

955
00:58:55,200 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 1: Washington was like without him. I I don't know. I

956
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: think you just it's time to bring the magnifying glass out,

957
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 1: but not to burn him to death like he's an aunt,

958
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 1: but to take a closer look. So I think that

959
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 1: I think that he should be under the magnifying glass

960
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 1: next year to see what he does and how they

961
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 1: bounce back. Because one of the things that they're still

962
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: doing as well as anybody is getting people to the pros.

963
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this, George, but Vita

964
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 1: Vea became the heaviest person in NFL history to score

965
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: a touchdown yesterday when he caught a touchdown from Jameis

966
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 1: Winston at threety seven pounds. They're getting all these dudes

967
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: to the NFL um they stay in the National Conversation.

968
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: They recruit very very well, and the Pack twelve North

969
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: outside of Oregon is vulnerable next year, I think for

970
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: and and there's gonna be a new quarterback at Oregon.

971
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 1: So if he can come out next year and he

972
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 1: can win the Pack twelve, then I think you're just

973
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 1: back to you Chris Peterson, lifetime coach of University of Washington.

974
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 1: But I do think he's knocked some of the shine

975
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: off of himself for the people at USC who had

976
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 1: wanted to possibly pluck him, uh to replace Clay Helton.

977
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 1: Which brings me to your next thing that you're going

978
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 1: to talk about. Yep, and I agree with you there

979
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: that Chris Peterson isn't going anywhere this year. But he

980
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 1: also doesn't look good enough for sexy enough for USC

981
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 1: fans to really really want him like that. But if

982
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 1: he doesn't, if after Justin Herbert leaves, if they lose

983
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 1: the Tyler Shug at an Oregon and they don't finish

984
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 1: and they don't, you know, and they fined have another

985
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 1: three four lost season because they blamed it on youth.

986
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: They blamed it on a bunch of things. I think

987
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 1: Jacob Easton may end up having to go back to school. Yeah,

988
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: this is just yeah that now that could spell a

989
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 1: little bit of hot for him, but he won't be

990
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 1: getting fired anytime soon. The last school up is the USC.

991
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 1: The USC is there any way Clay Hilton's job is safe.

992
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 1: I mean that I was running through different scenarios of

993
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 1: what could work, and I mean they could come out

994
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 1: and they can make a commitment to him, because that

995
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 1: was the biggest issue right now, because I expected them

996
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 1: to go eating for. They went eating for. I expected

997
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 1: them to beat Utah. They beat Utah. They fulfilled my

998
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 1: expectations for this year. Um. The the issue right now

999
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: is recruiting. It really is, because they've got young, talented

1000
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 1: players now, most of which will be back next year.

1001
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 1: Could he turn around and make a run with those players?

1002
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 1: I'd say that the fan base does not trust him

1003
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 1: to do that and want somebody else to come in

1004
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 1: and and get that done. They want Mike Bone to

1005
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: be in charge of that process. Um, and I get that.

1006
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 1: I get that, But also it's USC. All these kids

1007
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 1: that are basically like staging a mutiny by not committing

1008
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 1: to USC, but they actually want to go to USC.

1009
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 1: If Mike Bone has to come out and say, hey,

1010
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 1: Clay Helton is coach for the next two years, no

1011
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 1: matter what happens. You know what those kids would do.

1012
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 1: They flipped. They flipped because then they then they realize, oh,

1013
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 1: we we tried to play the long game. We tried

1014
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 1: to exercise pressure and it didn't work because guys like

1015
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 1: Chris Steele and Brue McCoy they did commit elsewhere to

1016
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 1: Texas in Florida, and guess where they ended up back

1017
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 1: up a couple of months later. Usc All, these kids

1018
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 1: want to be Trojans. They want to be Trojans. They

1019
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 1: just think Clay Hilton's gonna get fired. If it's clear

1020
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 1: that he's not getting fired, they're gonna get some of

1021
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 1: those kids. But is Clay Hilton the guy that you

1022
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 1: want to make that commitment to. I've read all the

1023
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 1: articles that say no, and I've listened to a couple

1024
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 1: of people that say he's earned another shot, and I

1025
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 1: come down on the side of no. Hell no, you

1026
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 1: do not bring Clay Hilton back because another shot means

1027
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 1: one more year of every single thing he does wrong.

1028
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 1: It is just should we fire him now? You don't

1029
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 1: bring back somebody who's on a game to game basis,

1030
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 1: you bring back someone that you would have grace for

1031
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 1: because you believe that even in the mistakes they make,

1032
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 1: you're building towards something. It is not healthy for Clay

1033
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 1: Helton to be the head coach at USC and if

1034
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 1: you have the resources to do it, you need to

1035
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 1: make that move yesterday, and the fact that they haven't

1036
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 1: yet makes me disagree, totally disagree. Clay Hilton is like

1037
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 1: a I tweeted this out. I say he's like a

1038
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 1: testing on Survivor that that he's the one that he

1039
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 1: would win Survivor because every time they would try to

1040
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 1: vote him out, he finding the immunity idol and then

1041
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 1: he'd win the last immunity challenge and then everybody would

1042
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 1: have wanted him gone all season, but missed every opportunity

1043
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 1: because they were like, oh, we we can get him

1044
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 1: out later, and then it's too late and he's one

1045
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 1: a million dollars. That's Clay help because they if I

1046
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 1: know that they didn't have an athletic director after the

1047
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 1: Oregon game, but that was the time to to if

1048
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 1: you wanted him fire, that's when you were supposed to

1049
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 1: do it. But now he's won five out of his

1050
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 1: last six games. Keaton Slovis looks absolutely amazing. Even though T. J.

1051
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 1: Wh Whoada was on the radio, Uh what was on

1052
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio carrying the water for J. T. Daniels saying,

1053
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 1: no matter what happened, no matter what Keaton Slovis does, JT.

1054
01:04:56,040 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 1: Danis is so much better. I'm like, are you drunk? Oh?

1055
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 1: J T. Daniels. J T. Daniels belongs in Berkeley. Yeah,

1056
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if they want him. Um but but

1057
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 1: um yeah, and and that and that. So that's the

1058
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 1: first problem, and that Keaton Slovis may have saved his

1059
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 1: job because do you want to you clearly have a

1060
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 1: franchise college quarterback in Keaton slogas, now you want to

1061
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 1: get rid of Clay Helton. I don't know if that's

1062
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 1: a great move. And then also if you can't get

1063
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer, because here is what here's what I have

1064
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 1: heard from two people that are in the know about

1065
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 1: things in the in the college world, particularly USC San Diego,

1066
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 1: the Rams, like in the Good Old Boys Network of

1067
01:05:55,200 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 1: of Los Angeles. He said that the number for Urban

1068
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 1: Meyer is John Gruten ten years, hundred million dollars. My lord,

1069
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 1: that's what that's what he wants. He's like, that's the price, buddy,

1070
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 1: if you want it, you better pony up. But Carol faults.

1071
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 1: The new president is like, no urban Meyer, under no circumstances.

1072
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 1: She's the president. She's the highest ranking person sort of

1073
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 1: because USC has the money. People above her who named

1074
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 1: you don't know, and those people have made it clear

1075
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 1: if we if you're gonna try to block USC, we

1076
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 1: will find a new president. So it's getting real tricky.

1077
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 1: But USC is not even close to urban Meyer's number

1078
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 1: right now of ten years, hundred million dollars. They're they're

1079
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 1: they're probably close to the ten ten mill mark, but

1080
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 1: not ten years. And then also is James Franklin, who

1081
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 1: they would be targeting next, even though he's a good coach,

1082
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 1: is he gonna move the needle like that? Because if

1083
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 1: you look at his record, everybody craps a hard ball,

1084
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 1: but James Franklin's record looks just like hard boss. I

1085
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 1: don't I don't know, Ralph. I think USC has put

1086
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 1: itself in a bad spot because it's weird. It's one

1087
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 1: of the top jobs in the country, one of the

1088
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 1: top jobs in the country, but at the same time

1089
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 1: people aren't willing to leave where they are to go there.

1090
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 1: It's we say that erban Meyer has all the leverage

1091
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 1: in the entire world, all of it, which is the

1092
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 1: exact place that you want to be in. He's fine

1093
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 1: not getting this job, and he'll be fine getting this job.

1094
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 1: So I mean good for urban Meyer to be in

1095
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 1: this position. I guess I would caution USC against that move.

1096
01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 1: I don't think it's right to me. It's more of

1097
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 1: a culture fit, right urban Meyer is urban Meyer worked

1098
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 1: at Utah, and he worked at Florida, and he worked

1099
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 1: at Ohio State. Because he is this giant figure who

1100
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 1: can recruit, who can hire really good assistance. Um, I

1101
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:25,560
Speaker 1: don't know how he's going to fit in at southern California.

1102
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 1: And I hate to make this like a political thing,

1103
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 1: but like he is a like right of right wing dude,

1104
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 1: right like Candice Owen's loving Dennis Praeger loving Republican. Okay,

1105
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 1: and I worked for Ronald Reagan. Ronald Reagan's the California

1106
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 1: But I just don't know. I don't know if USC

1107
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 1: is gonna want to bring somebody in who like is

1108
01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 1: favoriting every Candice Owens all black people are brainwashed tweets,

1109
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:04,639
Speaker 1: you know, I get. I'm starting to get this every

1110
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 1: single day because I talked to a lot of parents

1111
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 1: a high school recruiting and stuff like that, and there

1112
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 1: are some who were you know, most don't care anything

1113
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 1: about politics. There are some that are getting to the

1114
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 1: point where it's so divisive out there that that they

1115
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:19,719
Speaker 1: look at the stuff that coaches favorite and retweet as

1116
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 1: to like whether or not I'm gonna put my son

1117
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 1: in with a white coach who thinks that like black

1118
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 1: kids need to be mentally reconditioned away from the politics

1119
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:33,680
Speaker 1: that their parents teach them. Like, No, I want my

1120
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 1: kids to be taught about football, right, I don't want

1121
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 1: politics entering it. So we've entered this really really weird,

1122
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 1: weird time and again. I'm having these conversations with parents

1123
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 1: regularly about the politics of coaches, whether some they think

1124
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:54,759
Speaker 1: some coaches are too liberal, or some cities are too liberal,

1125
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:57,640
Speaker 1: whether they think some coaches are too conservative where they

1126
01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 1: don't understand the experience of where they're they might be

1127
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 1: coming from. And I know that you traditionally really only

1128
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 1: deal with your position, coaches, but I'm just having a

1129
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 1: hard time imagining ten years, a hundred million dollars for

1130
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:15,640
Speaker 1: a guy who has a background of scandal, whose politics

1131
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 1: might not necessarily fit the area, just to potentially win

1132
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:24,720
Speaker 1: some football games when his brain might supposedly explode at

1133
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 1: any given point because of the health issues that he's had.

1134
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 1: I think they should just take the Urban Myers stuff

1135
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 1: off the table. And it feels like back room they

1136
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:37,759
Speaker 1: kind of tried to, right, They tried to say there's

1137
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 1: no way ever, but the demand is still there and

1138
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 1: people seem to think that this will still happen. There

1139
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 1: are guys out there who who could Matt Campbell could

1140
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 1: be that guy. Matt Campbell is a dogged recruiter who

1141
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 1: has turned Aims, Iowa into a destination for top recruits.

1142
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:01,679
Speaker 1: Go get a guy like that, Go get the hot name,

1143
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 1: the young name, somebody who can be there for ten

1144
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 1: years and not somebody who you just hope will be

1145
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 1: healthy and engaged enough and won't involve themselves in any

1146
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 1: more scandals so that you can get back to where

1147
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 1: you can compete with Washington and Oregon. Right, I don't know.

1148
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 1: I don't love the idea. I think they should get

1149
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 1: rid of Clay Helton absolutely, um And you're saying that

1150
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 1: they should keep Clay Helton because they're not going to

1151
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 1: get urban Meyer this year. Is that what they should

1152
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 1: keep Clay Helton is a negotiating tactic. Is that what

1153
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 1: I'm hearing you saying, No, I'm saying, is that is

1154
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 1: that you've put yourself in a situation where it's hard

1155
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,840
Speaker 1: to get rid of him. Now he's won five, five

1156
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 1: or six, and if you can't get Urban Meyer. I mean,

1157
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 1: I hear usc fans screaming, oh, anybody but but him,

1158
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 1: anybody but the what but Clay Helton? Okay? So it

1159
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 1: I mean, do you really mean anybody? So do you

1160
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:08,559
Speaker 1: want Kevin Kevin Sumlin? Uh uh, Willie, Willie Taggart's out

1161
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 1: of out of work? Who is anybody? Because anybody's just

1162
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:14,599
Speaker 1: not better than Clay Helton. There are a bunch of

1163
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 1: coaches who may do a better job, but there's not

1164
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:20,679
Speaker 1: just anybody but help Like that's just pure at easy.

1165
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 1: I mean, he hasn't achieved what you want him to achieve.

1166
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,919
Speaker 1: But it's weird because he's put himself in a position.

1167
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 1: Like I said, he's a survivor contestant. He's like a cock.

1168
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 1: Actually I don't refer to hi man, I mean and

1169
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 1: just a sense of he just won't go away like

1170
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 1: you will. He's not gonna make it easy to fire him. Okay,

1171
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:46,640
Speaker 1: so we can get into the game's real quick now, Ralph, Um,

1172
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 1: you had USC and U c l A fifty two

1173
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:53,599
Speaker 1: thirty five. I told you this game was gonna kill

1174
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 1: the over and it did. I do Keaton Slover Stough

1175
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:02,839
Speaker 1: for four five hundred fifteen yards. You had four USC

1176
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 1: receivers go over a hundred yards. Four you had Drake Um. Yeah,

1177
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 1: you had Drake London, I'm ross A Brown, Tyler Vons,

1178
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 1: and Michael Pittman all over four all over a hundred yards.

1179
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 1: The only one that didn't score was I'm on Roight

1180
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 1: st Brown. This was an utter beat down offensively, but

1181
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 1: on on the other end, uh USC's defense still gave

1182
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 1: up thirty five points and just a whole bunch of yards.

1183
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 1: To you, I feel like this was one of the

1184
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:44,720
Speaker 1: good DTR games. Um, I'm you know, so I thought

1185
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:48,559
Speaker 1: this was bad DTR. Actually this was. This was more

1186
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 1: intermediate DTR. He finished with four total touchdowns and over

1187
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:56,720
Speaker 1: four hundred total yards. But it's like there was some

1188
01:13:56,840 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 1: throws missed, some bad is having to dig the entire

1189
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 1: team out of a hole. Give him a chance, like

1190
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 1: give up fifty good lord. This U c l A

1191
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 1: defense is hot garbage this year, and I don't know

1192
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:13,639
Speaker 1: how they were able to do what they did against

1193
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:16,679
Speaker 1: Arizona State. But maybe go back and watch that film

1194
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 1: because this is what do you what'sdtr supposed to do

1195
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 1: if he's playing from behind, He's not a play from

1196
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:28,680
Speaker 1: behind quarterback, and he still managed to. I don't know,

1197
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 1: I felt encouraged by what I saw from him. Um,

1198
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 1: Sometimes I feel like I just want to jump on

1199
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:39,439
Speaker 1: his dad's train of tweeting at the tweeting at the

1200
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:42,720
Speaker 1: coaching staff. Uh, just like, you know, give his kid

1201
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 1: a chance to to get some stuff done. Um. But yeah,

1202
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:49,559
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that I think that what

1203
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 1: Keen Slovis did in this game was really really special. Um.

1204
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 1: Anybody who wants to bring up J. T. Daniel's name

1205
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 1: from here on out is forever somebody I will no

1206
01:14:57,280 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 1: longer take seriously, we have four receiver us who all

1207
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 1: have a hundred yards. That's almost as impressive as there

1208
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 1: was an old game where boomera size and spent one

1209
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 1: year with the years on the Cardinals and heat threw

1210
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:13,760
Speaker 1: for five hundred plus yards um, way way back in

1211
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 1: the in the mid nineties, and no receiver had a

1212
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 1: hundred yards, which I think is the only thing cooler

1213
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 1: than getting four receivers at a hundred plus. And uh,

1214
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 1: I mean there's definitely a lot of shine on USC

1215
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 1: right now. Um, if you are a receiver out there

1216
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 1: and you see that you're gonna have two more years

1217
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:34,680
Speaker 1: of Keaton Slovis, and you see that a lot of

1218
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:36,800
Speaker 1: these guys are probably gonna jump to the to the

1219
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:39,559
Speaker 1: league early, why not take that chance. I think that

1220
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:44,720
Speaker 1: Graham Harold, it's making Graham Harold look really good. Um,

1221
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just think that there's there's definitely

1222
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 1: a lot to be encouraged about offensively for this team

1223
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:53,559
Speaker 1: right now, and making a move at head coach maybe

1224
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:56,600
Speaker 1: means that you lose some of that offensive shine and

1225
01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 1: so that can be a little bit scary as well.

1226
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 1: But I think I've underestimated how much this game would

1227
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 1: mean to the players who played in it, because you

1228
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 1: were seeing guys who played quarterback at at USC in

1229
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 1: years past, Matt Barkley, whose record got broken for most

1230
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:17,720
Speaker 1: yards in a game by a freshman, Matt Leiner. You know,

1231
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 1: all tweeting about how special they think Keaton Slovis is.

1232
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 1: So I think this was a This ended up being

1233
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 1: a really really big deal for USC to get to

1234
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,640
Speaker 1: eight wins after what was a tough start, and to

1235
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 1: and to have all this momentum. Everybody loves this offense.

1236
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:33,599
Speaker 1: Everybody's talking about this quarterback and that's what it's about.

1237
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 1: That's Hollywood, that's USC. So um, that was good on them.

1238
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 1: I think that gosh, does u c l A still

1239
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:43,760
Speaker 1: have a game after this? They do? Don't they like that?

1240
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 1: The fact that their season is still going on that

1241
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:53,679
Speaker 1: I just mercy ruled them, please. So so the things

1242
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 1: that stood out to be in this game where I

1243
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 1: think that Kyle Phillips U c l A Wide rievers

1244
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:02,480
Speaker 1: as a star to making he's gonna be a problem.

1245
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 1: He is the hunter renfro slash like like he is

1246
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 1: the Danny Amendola, you know, Cooper Cup. That's who Kyle

1247
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 1: Phillips is um. And the kid is gonna be a

1248
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:19,880
Speaker 1: problem in the conference for as long as he's he's

1249
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 1: there before he goes to the NFL. UM and then

1250
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 1: also on USC's front, I mean, I don't know how

1251
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 1: you can knock slogans. There are people, Oh, he's got

1252
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:33,800
Speaker 1: such great, great wide receivers. Well, he also has to

1253
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 1: throw the ball on time, on target recoverages because they're

1254
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:40,679
Speaker 1: trying to confuse him. And there his critics they always

1255
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 1: a turnover machine. Well, he's also a true freshman playing

1256
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 1: like put in an untenable situation, having he played pro

1257
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:53,679
Speaker 1: style in college, and he's not really a turnover machine.

1258
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 1: He's got nine interceptions twenty eight touchdowns, Like, come on,

1259
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 1: man like people are absolutely outrageous with their expectations for

1260
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 1: some of these people in Keaton Slops is clearly a

1261
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:14,800
Speaker 1: fantastic player. Um, yeah, that that's insanity. But but the

1262
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:17,760
Speaker 1: question is, after all these dudes go to NFL after

1263
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 1: bonds in Um and Pittman are in the NFL next year,

1264
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:25,599
Speaker 1: they still got Ama ra st Brown and Drake Jackson,

1265
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 1: so he'll still have some good wide receivers to throw too. Um,

1266
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 1: you taught an Arizona round thirty five to seven, and

1267
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 1: the Bowl Constrictor utes just just they get their arms,

1268
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 1: they get wrapped around you in the beginning of the game,

1269
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 1: and they just squeezed the life out of every single team.

1270
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:47,839
Speaker 1: I mean, if you talk gets in the college football Playoff.

1271
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:50,840
Speaker 1: I would not be surprised if they beat L. S U.

1272
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 1: But I would be surprised if they beat Clemson or

1273
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 1: Ohio State. However, I far be it from me to

1274
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:02,639
Speaker 1: say that this team cannot do it. Like their defense

1275
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 1: is just strangling people. I mean, just I haven't seen

1276
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 1: like this. Um. There was a really good article this

1277
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:15,120
Speaker 1: week after UM I'll tweet it out about the top

1278
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 1: that this Utah defense is one of the top six

1279
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 1: in the pack twelve of all time, and I can't

1280
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:27,720
Speaker 1: argue with it at this point. You got um, I

1281
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 1: mean brand, you got Bradley and I you got um. Uh,

1282
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 1: the the corner Johnson, I mean this, this is Jalen Johnson.

1283
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 1: You got you know, everybody on this team. Francis Bernard

1284
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:53,559
Speaker 1: is doing a good job, Terrell Burgess, Vonte Davis, Julian Blackman.

1285
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:58,800
Speaker 1: This is a team full of just stay in your gap,

1286
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 1: do the right thing, be physical, play hard. I mean

1287
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 1: if if every team in the conference played with the

1288
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 1: intensity and the um discipline that that Utah played with,

1289
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 1: it would be insane. It would be insane. Yeah, there

1290
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 1: they Gosh, Arizona got crushed and you had to figure

1291
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:26,680
Speaker 1: that was gonna happen. Um, I I will. I want

1292
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:28,400
Speaker 1: to get this out of the way real quick. That

1293
01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 1: Tyler Huntley for Heisman thing that Utah is pushing is

1294
01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:35,920
Speaker 1: embarrassing and it has to stop immediately. It's not even

1295
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:41,160
Speaker 1: like funny or cute. Tyler Huntley is having an incredible season,

1296
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:47,720
Speaker 1: but his season is basically Alex Smith's sophomore year. It's

1297
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,720
Speaker 1: a good season of football where he's not turning the

1298
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:53,240
Speaker 1: ball over, where he's being very efficient, but he's not

1299
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 1: even the best player on that offense, George Zack Mosses,

1300
01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 1: So why are we even doing us Utah supposedly as

1301
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 1: two rivals if you believe their fans, B y U

1302
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 1: and A s U. You know how many touchdowns Tyler

1303
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:12,200
Speaker 1: Huntley was responsible for in those two games combined, zero

1304
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:15,840
Speaker 1: zero zero zero. So we need to get off this

1305
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 1: whole Heisman thing. It's embarrassing. It's embarrassing that Yogi Roth

1306
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 1: was helping push that whole thing this week. He is

1307
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 1: not a Heisman candidate. He's not even the best player

1308
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 1: on this offense. We should just be able to enjoy

1309
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:31,280
Speaker 1: Tyler Huntley for what he is, a very good quarterback,

1310
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:35,600
Speaker 1: having a very good year running this offense to perfection.

1311
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:39,320
Speaker 1: But this offensive line in Zach Moss are what make

1312
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 1: this offense go. You saw that against the University of Arizona,

1313
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 1: he had over two yards rushing I think in the

1314
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:46,599
Speaker 1: first three quarters. Didn't really even need to play him

1315
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:50,559
Speaker 1: after that. Defensively, you know we I think I said

1316
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:52,840
Speaker 1: this and I think agreed out that this is a

1317
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:56,519
Speaker 1: national championship defensive line and the rest of the defense

1318
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 1: has come to play as well. The only reason Arizona

1319
01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:03,679
Speaker 1: even scored in this game is because Grant Cannell finally

1320
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 1: got enough reps towards the end of the game to

1321
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 1: try to figure out what to do against the you know,

1322
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 1: third string defenders that the Utes had thrown out there.

1323
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:17,479
Speaker 1: What Arizona is doing offensively is I mean you should

1324
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:22,200
Speaker 1: yeah on on. Like, I'm a very lititious society, and

1325
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:25,519
Speaker 1: I think I think that people sue people too much.

1326
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:27,720
Speaker 1: But I'd be okay if the entire fan base got

1327
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 1: together and student the coaching stat for the way that

1328
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:33,880
Speaker 1: they manage the quarterbacks. This year just a very very

1329
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:37,839
Speaker 1: bad game. And it took it took Saturn sized balls

1330
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:40,679
Speaker 1: for J. J. Taylor to declare for the NFL Draft

1331
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 1: before having to go against this Utah defensive line, and

1332
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:46,680
Speaker 1: that did not do him any favors because he's the

1333
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 1: only underclassman in the country who has declared, which means

1334
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:51,840
Speaker 1: all eyes were on him against Utah and he went

1335
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:54,640
Speaker 1: out there and had like ten carries for thirty three yards.

1336
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:58,719
Speaker 1: So just what And you want to talk about mercy

1337
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 1: ruling a team. I know they at a rivalry game

1338
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:02,400
Speaker 1: coming up, and I know that they love to play

1339
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 1: spoilers um for a s U, but they can't even

1340
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 1: move the ball. They they better play the entire game

1341
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:19,480
Speaker 1: against a s U they like, honestly they I'm speechless.

1342
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:22,439
Speaker 1: I'm speechless to how they've run the team this year

1343
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:26,400
Speaker 1: and run this team into the ground. Yep. And and

1344
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 1: I thought that we had a big um discovery this

1345
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 1: this week. So Zack Zack Moss ran for carries two

1346
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:37,559
Speaker 1: three yards, well over a thousand yards this year. Um.

1347
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:41,639
Speaker 1: I thought that Justin Herbert was kind of a shoe

1348
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:43,720
Speaker 1: in for PAC twelve Player of the Year. I mean

1349
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:48,800
Speaker 1: only because you had I mean there wasn't really anybody

1350
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:51,439
Speaker 1: else to give it to. I mean, like like you

1351
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:56,960
Speaker 1: had Justin Herbert, Tyler Huntley and Zack Zack Moss. But

1352
01:23:57,080 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 1: Zack Moss probably deserves more credit it But none of

1353
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 1: those were kind of sexy picks this year. I didn't

1354
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:08,639
Speaker 1: feel like and but now after Oregon lost and Justin

1355
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:12,559
Speaker 1: Herbert didn't look well, it didn't look didn't play well.

1356
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:15,559
Speaker 1: You know, I think that Zack Moss is probably in

1357
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 1: the league for he should it shouldn't be Zack Moss. Obviously,

1358
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:22,280
Speaker 1: we'll see what they do against Colorado. But when's the

1359
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:25,840
Speaker 1: last time Colorado stopped someone from running the ball? Oh? Yeah?

1360
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 1: Um Cal at Stanford, Chase Garbers was back in full effect.

1361
01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:35,679
Speaker 1: He led the team in rushing. He had a good

1362
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:42,080
Speaker 1: day passing the ball. Um, Stanford is broken, dude. Cal

1363
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:46,760
Speaker 1: had trouble because they were down what seventeen seven, uh no, no,

1364
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:50,439
Speaker 1: seventeen ten in the when the fourth in the fourth quarter,

1365
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:53,640
Speaker 1: and then they were able to come back score a

1366
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 1: late touchdown on their Chase Garbers run. Yeah, you know

1367
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:01,519
Speaker 1: this is a team that is now after starting out

1368
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 1: four and oh, losing Chase Garbage for six weeks, going

1369
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 1: in the tank, getting them back and now they're Bowl eligible.

1370
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:13,680
Speaker 1: This is a one successful season, especially if they can

1371
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:15,640
Speaker 1: mess around and beat you c U C l A

1372
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 1: this weekend in l A. They're gonna finish seven and five.

1373
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:22,439
Speaker 1: I think that every cow fan that if they knew

1374
01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:25,759
Speaker 1: that Chase Garbers would be out for six weeks and

1375
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 1: um and Monster would be that bad, that they would

1376
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:33,680
Speaker 1: happily take seven and five. And I just want to

1377
01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:36,679
Speaker 1: shout out this game had two of the best catches

1378
01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:39,679
Speaker 1: that I've seen all year. For maybe the best catch,

1379
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:46,680
Speaker 1: uh in the interception from Jalen Hawkins at Yeah, I

1380
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 1: mean that that was just flat out of cool. Um

1381
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 1: and then uh, and then obviously they have a really

1382
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 1: really special receiver in Travon Clark who made an amazing

1383
01:25:57,160 --> 01:26:00,559
Speaker 1: catch on the sideline. Um, do you think Van Clark

1384
01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:05,760
Speaker 1: pro Do you think he sticks around? I think I

1385
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 1: think he sticks around. I don't know if he has

1386
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:12,480
Speaker 1: enough buzz, but if he were at a bigger school,

1387
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:16,200
Speaker 1: he probably would, you know, if if his name were

1388
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 1: buzzing some But I don't think he has enough momentum

1389
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:22,040
Speaker 1: to necessarily he would be risky. But he'd be the

1390
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:23,720
Speaker 1: kind of guy that would go to the combine and

1391
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:29,280
Speaker 1: test off the churts, like the vertical, the hands. Um.

1392
01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:31,280
Speaker 1: He's a special player, and I hope he comes back

1393
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:33,679
Speaker 1: because I'd really really like to see him one more

1394
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:36,479
Speaker 1: year with the healthy Garber's. Um, I think that he

1395
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:38,479
Speaker 1: could really be the guy next year as a as

1396
01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:41,960
Speaker 1: as a receiver kind of maybe challenge you know, hodgens

1397
01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 1: Or or or a monros st Brown for for you know,

1398
01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:49,200
Speaker 1: that role of the top receiver in the in the conference. Um.

1399
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, he looked really really good to me. Um.

1400
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:54,160
Speaker 1: He continues to look good to me. But I also

1401
01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:56,760
Speaker 1: look at him and see somebody who like, that's the

1402
01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:59,000
Speaker 1: kind of guy the NFL would salivate over. And he

1403
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 1: already went to Juco route, so he's already kind of

1404
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:04,000
Speaker 1: had the hard knocks type thing and maybe he'd be

1405
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 1: you know, maybe maybe he'd risk it. So I don't know, Um,

1406
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:08,800
Speaker 1: but those are two of the best catches that I've

1407
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 1: seen all year. There was a time during this game

1408
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 1: when I thought that, you know, that that Stanford was

1409
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:17,280
Speaker 1: gonna get it done and that you know, it was

1410
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:20,559
Speaker 1: going to really make cal look like pretenders. But you know,

1411
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:24,200
Speaker 1: they found a way to win the game. And um,

1412
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:26,160
Speaker 1: you know how long has it been. Has it been

1413
01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:28,559
Speaker 1: like ten years or something like that. Yeah, it's been

1414
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:31,360
Speaker 1: like a nine or ten years since they've had to

1415
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 1: change over the that acts or whatever it is. Um

1416
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 1: that plaque Okay, but I I hate the way that

1417
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 1: they transferred the plaque over from from team to team.

1418
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 1: At the end of the game, they're just standing there

1419
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:50,400
Speaker 1: facing each other like so the people who are standing

1420
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 1: who have to switch it over, they don't even get

1421
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:55,080
Speaker 1: a chance to watch the last five or six minutes

1422
01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:57,800
Speaker 1: of the game. They're just standing there, just staring at

1423
01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:00,320
Speaker 1: each other. I'm like, this could not be one of

1424
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:06,160
Speaker 1: them words insanely terrible things like who wants that job?

1425
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:08,840
Speaker 1: You get to hand it over, but you don't get

1426
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:11,960
Speaker 1: to watch the game. It was a really good finish

1427
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:15,200
Speaker 1: they and and they're just standing there, just facing there.

1428
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 1: They were they were standing there like the um, like

1429
01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:25,599
Speaker 1: the like the Royal Police and uh that stand outside

1430
01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:28,960
Speaker 1: of Buckingham Palace and they don't move. That's what they

1431
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:35,120
Speaker 1: look like. Um. Yeah, I don't know what's up with Stanford.

1432
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:40,720
Speaker 1: They're still playing quarterback shuffle obviously, uh K J Costello's hurt.

1433
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:44,720
Speaker 1: Davis Mills had a bad game against the takers from

1434
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:49,960
Speaker 1: cal two interceptions. I mean, who's who's the Who's their

1435
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:53,840
Speaker 1: quarterback is David's Mills the guy in the future. I mean,

1436
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:57,840
Speaker 1: I don't know where who's the next running back? Cameron

1437
01:28:57,880 --> 01:29:01,559
Speaker 1: Scarlett's a senior. Who's the next guy? Is? Is it old?

1438
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:09,000
Speaker 1: Is it Austin Jones? Stanford's broken man. I'm I just

1439
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:11,840
Speaker 1: can't say enough about it. And Cal is headed in

1440
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:16,760
Speaker 1: the right direction, and Chase Garbers is getting better. That's

1441
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:19,360
Speaker 1: the thing about it is that Cal, provided he can

1442
01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:24,479
Speaker 1: stay healthy because he's only a sophomore, next year, he

1443
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:28,480
Speaker 1: will be significantly better. I don't know about Cal secondary

1444
01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:30,799
Speaker 1: because they're losing a bunch of guys to the NFL

1445
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 1: and graduation. But this is a team who is going

1446
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:40,439
Speaker 1: to be dangerous. Um Oregon State Washington State. This game

1447
01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:47,320
Speaker 1: crushed the over hundred and seven points. Anthony Gordon broke

1448
01:29:47,439 --> 01:29:51,519
Speaker 1: the pack twelve touchdown record through for six hundred and

1449
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:56,520
Speaker 1: six yards and six touchdowns. I gave everybody the recipe

1450
01:29:56,600 --> 01:30:01,519
Speaker 1: for stopping the offense, but nobody listened. Either that or

1451
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:06,320
Speaker 1: Oregon State just can't do it. And this game came

1452
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 1: down to the end of the game and Oregon State

1453
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:11,800
Speaker 1: scored twenty nine points in the fourth quarter to like

1454
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:14,960
Speaker 1: rally back kind of, but then they gave up nineteen points.

1455
01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:20,240
Speaker 1: I just the officials were a big part of this game. Again,

1456
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:24,440
Speaker 1: pass inference calls at the end of the game. Um

1457
01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:27,639
Speaker 1: Mike Leach did a great job of calling a run

1458
01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:30,760
Speaker 1: play at the at the very last last minute. But

1459
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:32,920
Speaker 1: I thought that this game was lost. I'm a big

1460
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:35,960
Speaker 1: proponent of going forward on fourth down, ending the ball,

1461
01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:39,040
Speaker 1: ending the game with the ball in your hands, big

1462
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:44,799
Speaker 1: proponent of that. However, Oregon State went forward on fourth

1463
01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:47,679
Speaker 1: and two about midfield at the end of this game.

1464
01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:51,840
Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with that. The problem with it was was

1465
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:54,880
Speaker 1: how they led up to that. They ran the ball.

1466
01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:59,559
Speaker 1: They ran three really basic running plays, and they didn't

1467
01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:03,160
Speaker 1: give themselves a chance to to win. They tried to

1468
01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:06,200
Speaker 1: make a play on fourth, fourth down. Don't try to

1469
01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:08,760
Speaker 1: wait for fourth down to make the play. That was

1470
01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:10,600
Speaker 1: my only problem. I thought that they lost it on

1471
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:14,639
Speaker 1: the first three downs with the conservative running plays, trying

1472
01:31:14,680 --> 01:31:17,479
Speaker 1: to run out the clock, when in reality they should

1473
01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:20,320
Speaker 1: have been trying to get the first down. That's where

1474
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:23,240
Speaker 1: I think I think the teams go go wrong. But

1475
01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:27,920
Speaker 1: this was an offensive explosion. You had over what eleven

1476
01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:34,439
Speaker 1: almost twelve yards of total offense. This was insane. Ralph, Yeah,

1477
01:31:34,479 --> 01:31:37,519
Speaker 1: and I think it's weird the Oregon State didn't learn

1478
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:41,559
Speaker 1: the lesson from Arizona State last week, which is when

1479
01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:44,880
Speaker 1: you are tearing them up in the fourth quarter, run

1480
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:48,800
Speaker 1: your offense. Run your offense, don't worry about anything else,

1481
01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:53,200
Speaker 1: don't get cute, don't try anything new. Do what's working.

1482
01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:58,080
Speaker 1: Arizona State was killing Oregon State in the fourth quarter

1483
01:31:58,160 --> 01:32:01,160
Speaker 1: last week and they run a toss play. It was

1484
01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:04,920
Speaker 1: Jade Daniels. Jade Daniels was completely dominating that game. They

1485
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:07,639
Speaker 1: took the ball out of his hands at the end.

1486
01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:11,280
Speaker 1: Oregon State scored twenty nine in the fourth quarter of

1487
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:14,840
Speaker 1: this game, and then they try to get sort of

1488
01:32:14,840 --> 01:32:19,080
Speaker 1: conservative to take time off the clock at the end,

1489
01:32:19,080 --> 01:32:22,559
Speaker 1: and I didn't understand that at all. Um, they really

1490
01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:26,200
Speaker 1: should have won this game. I feel bad because they

1491
01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:29,840
Speaker 1: wasted just a fantastic effort from Jermar Jefferson. I've been

1492
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:32,200
Speaker 1: waiting for Jeremy Jefferson to get right all year long.

1493
01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:34,920
Speaker 1: And in this game, twenty one carries hundred thirty two

1494
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:38,320
Speaker 1: yards and two touchdowns, three catches fifty two yards, two

1495
01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:43,280
Speaker 1: more touchdowns, and it's wasted, right, I mean, they lose.

1496
01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:46,160
Speaker 1: It probably takes them out of even being able to

1497
01:32:46,160 --> 01:32:48,680
Speaker 1: go to a bowl which they definitely yes, they were

1498
01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:51,519
Speaker 1: going to a bowl game if they won this game,

1499
01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:55,280
Speaker 1: because and then Washington State can then go beat Washington

1500
01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:58,559
Speaker 1: which is entirely possible, and then you got another bowl

1501
01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:02,200
Speaker 1: team or agust they score. Wandered an opportunity to go

1502
01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:04,920
Speaker 1: to a ball game, just squandered. Yeah. And and also

1503
01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:08,360
Speaker 1: at the same time, like put us in our same

1504
01:33:08,360 --> 01:33:10,360
Speaker 1: shoes and the same position that we were one year

1505
01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:13,400
Speaker 1: ago at this time that we're talking about being disappointed

1506
01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:16,920
Speaker 1: in an Oregon State team to put up fifty three points, Um,

1507
01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:20,800
Speaker 1: what a difference of year makes. So I'm I'm proud

1508
01:33:20,840 --> 01:33:22,599
Speaker 1: of I'm proud of this team. This is an easy

1509
01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:26,160
Speaker 1: fun team to root for, UM, but they do not

1510
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:29,160
Speaker 1: have a defense. They need to recruit better. They need

1511
01:33:29,200 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 1: to get some guys in there that can they can

1512
01:33:31,680 --> 01:33:36,040
Speaker 1: stop anybody, UM, because you know, you got the one

1513
01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:39,760
Speaker 1: good pass pressure right now in hamilcar Rochet, who is

1514
01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:44,000
Speaker 1: completely neutralized by a spread offense. So you know they

1515
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:46,400
Speaker 1: weren't ever going to stop anybody. So the goal should

1516
01:33:46,439 --> 01:33:47,880
Speaker 1: be to have your offense on the field at the

1517
01:33:47,960 --> 01:33:49,960
Speaker 1: end of the game. And they change things up and

1518
01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:52,320
Speaker 1: they really shouldn't have. And it's just amazing to me

1519
01:33:52,360 --> 01:33:54,280
Speaker 1: that they didn't learn that lesson from a s U

1520
01:33:54,439 --> 01:33:58,880
Speaker 1: last week that you just should stick with what's working. Oh,

1521
01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:07,000
Speaker 1: I totally agree. Agree, Um you got you also had

1522
01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:13,000
Speaker 1: this weekend, you had Washington and Colorado, two games left,

1523
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:16,439
Speaker 1: Washington in Colorado. What was your take on this game?

1524
01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:21,479
Speaker 1: Roph I don't know. I don't know. I didn't watch it.

1525
01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:26,320
Speaker 1: I caught highlights. I guess you would call them. There

1526
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:29,479
Speaker 1: weren't many. Um, this was this was embarrassing. Like this

1527
01:34:29,680 --> 01:34:36,120
Speaker 1: was embarrassing. Um, Washington had every opportunity to go in

1528
01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:40,640
Speaker 1: there and dominate a team that hasn't been able to

1529
01:34:40,680 --> 01:34:45,559
Speaker 1: really play any defense all year and who didn't really

1530
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:50,200
Speaker 1: even look good offensively in this game, and they lost.

1531
01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:56,839
Speaker 1: They were down, well, they were down thirteen nothing at halftime.

1532
01:34:58,640 --> 01:35:01,639
Speaker 1: You can't you can't do that. He can't not score

1533
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:05,920
Speaker 1: in the first half against Colorado. Jacobison didn't look all

1534
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:08,479
Speaker 1: that great. Um, It's not like he was out there

1535
01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:11,200
Speaker 1: turning the ball over a bunch, but he didn't look

1536
01:35:11,200 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 1: all that great. You know, I say, when was the

1537
01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:16,520
Speaker 1: last time that Colorado stopped anybody from running the ball? Obviously?

1538
01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:21,760
Speaker 1: You know, they did stop Washington to an extent um,

1539
01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:24,280
Speaker 1: but I also didn't really see much of a commitment

1540
01:35:24,360 --> 01:35:27,320
Speaker 1: to Honestly, it was just bad play calling. This is

1541
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:32,400
Speaker 1: this is this is a poorly called game on Washington's part,

1542
01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:35,800
Speaker 1: and Colorado deserves credit for being who they are at

1543
01:35:35,840 --> 01:35:38,559
Speaker 1: home once again, which is a really really tough out

1544
01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:44,800
Speaker 1: um and uh. And now they have an opportunity to

1545
01:35:45,080 --> 01:35:48,920
Speaker 1: ruin things for the entire conference, ultimately probably cost themselves

1546
01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:51,400
Speaker 1: a few million dollars, but at least get to a

1547
01:35:51,400 --> 01:35:54,240
Speaker 1: bowl game by getting beating Utah. So you know, they

1548
01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:58,400
Speaker 1: have the ultimate opportunity to play the villain and they'll

1549
01:35:58,439 --> 01:36:01,280
Speaker 1: be really really interesting to see how that goes. But

1550
01:36:01,439 --> 01:36:03,759
Speaker 1: I think a lot of credit goes to Alex Fontnoll

1551
01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:07,760
Speaker 1: for his hunter yard Russian game. And then obviously, you know,

1552
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:12,680
Speaker 1: healthy with Visca Chenal is is something that makes Colorado

1553
01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:16,719
Speaker 1: pretty dangerous team. Yeah, this game had to do much

1554
01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:20,640
Speaker 1: more with the faults of Washington than the successes of Colorado,

1555
01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:24,720
Speaker 1: because it's not like like Colorado went up and put

1556
01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:29,639
Speaker 1: out some juggernaut of an offensive performance, and it's not

1557
01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:32,760
Speaker 1: like Washington turned the ball over, they had one interception.

1558
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:34,400
Speaker 1: It's not like they had a bunch of fumbles, a

1559
01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:37,519
Speaker 1: bunch of interceptions and then you just got behind and

1560
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:42,080
Speaker 1: you couldn't fix it. That's not what happened. They did, Jake.

1561
01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:46,880
Speaker 1: They did do a couple of cool things in coverage. Um.

1562
01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:49,880
Speaker 1: They blitzed freshman safety Mark Perry a couple of times

1563
01:36:49,880 --> 01:36:54,040
Speaker 1: and he got two sacks. Um. And and Nate Landman,

1564
01:36:54,080 --> 01:36:56,400
Speaker 1: who has been a really, really good linebacker for them

1565
01:36:56,400 --> 01:37:00,000
Speaker 1: for years now, Um, you know he got an interception

1566
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:05,040
Speaker 1: and this was but still just talent for talent, That's

1567
01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:08,360
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's the offensive failings. Washington fans have

1568
01:37:08,439 --> 01:37:11,839
Speaker 1: been complaining about this all year. They've been upset about

1569
01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:19,080
Speaker 1: They're about their team all year, about the obstacles coordinator.

1570
01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:23,519
Speaker 1: I think it's handler. Um. They have been upset about

1571
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:27,599
Speaker 1: Chris Peterson, and the last couple of weeks are kind

1572
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:30,800
Speaker 1: of justifying it because if they lose the Apple Cup

1573
01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:35,240
Speaker 1: and finished six and six, Ralph, that would be if

1574
01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:38,000
Speaker 1: they finished six and six, this would be the same

1575
01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:41,000
Speaker 1: team that everybody that I have been for the last

1576
01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:42,840
Speaker 1: three weeks saying, look, you have to put him in

1577
01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:44,719
Speaker 1: the middle to the bottom of the pack. Twelve rankings

1578
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:48,879
Speaker 1: and everybody has been saying to me, new new news. George,

1579
01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:51,080
Speaker 1: this team is so talented. They just play in the

1580
01:37:51,120 --> 01:37:54,920
Speaker 1: pack twelve. Noll this this this team is, this team

1581
01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:58,000
Speaker 1: is is the third best team in the conference. George.

1582
01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:02,760
Speaker 1: You must listen my English English friends back going North

1583
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:07,080
Speaker 1: English fans. Right, they are six and five. There's six

1584
01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:10,679
Speaker 1: and five, three and five in the conference. They lose

1585
01:38:10,720 --> 01:38:14,960
Speaker 1: the Apple Cup, they will probably be number ten in

1586
01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:20,240
Speaker 1: the Pactuel Power rankings. Probably. Um. They can't finish last

1587
01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:25,000
Speaker 1: because the Arizona is finishing last. Um. The last game

1588
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:28,960
Speaker 1: up though, was the most surprising game of the day. Um.

1589
01:38:29,120 --> 01:38:33,559
Speaker 1: And I just have a statement. The first thing in

1590
01:38:33,640 --> 01:38:42,640
Speaker 1: my and my first statement is to Oregon fans. Oregon

1591
01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:48,120
Speaker 1: fans have are all my nerves right right now. I

1592
01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:52,120
Speaker 1: understand you're upset you lost the game. I know that

1593
01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:56,600
Speaker 1: you are upset that Justin Herbert didn't play well, particularly

1594
01:38:56,640 --> 01:38:58,880
Speaker 1: in the first half, well the first three quarters, three

1595
01:38:58,880 --> 01:39:03,360
Speaker 1: and a half quarters. I understand that you had playoff

1596
01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:07,360
Speaker 1: hopes and dreams and they were dashed. I get it.

1597
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:12,760
Speaker 1: But we gotta stop with the oh, we're gonna boycott

1598
01:39:12,840 --> 01:39:17,320
Speaker 1: the Civil War, like stop being idiots. It's a football

1599
01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:22,240
Speaker 1: game your team lost, It hurts, it sucks. I mean

1600
01:39:22,280 --> 01:39:24,400
Speaker 1: I even changed my shirt at halftime to bring some

1601
01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:27,599
Speaker 1: good to bring some good luck, because it's only crazy

1602
01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:30,840
Speaker 1: if it doesn't work. And it didn't work. I know

1603
01:39:30,840 --> 01:39:32,759
Speaker 1: what it's like to have your heart broken and crushed

1604
01:39:32,760 --> 01:39:35,439
Speaker 1: when when when you're when you believe that you should

1605
01:39:35,439 --> 01:39:38,640
Speaker 1: win a football game and your team disappoint you. I

1606
01:39:38,720 --> 01:39:45,639
Speaker 1: get it. But let's stop with the nonsense. If someone

1607
01:39:45,720 --> 01:39:47,840
Speaker 1: had told you that at the beginning of the year

1608
01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:53,800
Speaker 1: that you could finish ten and two, win the Pac

1609
01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:57,840
Speaker 1: twelve Championship and go to the Rolls Bowl, would you

1610
01:39:57,920 --> 01:40:00,880
Speaker 1: have taken that? Oh, and you beat Washing, would you

1611
01:40:00,920 --> 01:40:04,720
Speaker 1: have taken and you talk, would you have taken that? Yes,

1612
01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:07,639
Speaker 1: you would have taken it. So you're saying you're saying

1613
01:40:07,640 --> 01:40:09,920
Speaker 1: the Troy Die thing. Troy Die said, Hey, I lost

1614
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:13,680
Speaker 1: seven in a row my freshman year. This is progress.

1615
01:40:14,120 --> 01:40:16,400
Speaker 1: You're saying that that that's something that people should be

1616
01:40:16,400 --> 01:40:20,439
Speaker 1: taken into consideration. Yes, that that okay, Like, do you

1617
01:40:20,479 --> 01:40:24,360
Speaker 1: realize that two years ago Oregon was on there what

1618
01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:27,519
Speaker 1: their third heck well, when Mario Christo Ball ended up

1619
01:40:27,520 --> 01:40:31,320
Speaker 1: with the job after Willie Tagger left on their third

1620
01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:35,160
Speaker 1: head coach trying to decide between Christo ball Levitt or

1621
01:40:35,200 --> 01:40:39,599
Speaker 1: bring somebody else in. People were questioned, oh, is Oregon

1622
01:40:39,640 --> 01:40:43,479
Speaker 1: a stepping stone job like? Stop it? Man like, stop it. Yes,

1623
01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:46,120
Speaker 1: it sucks the team lost, but they're too old. Bench

1624
01:40:46,160 --> 01:40:50,280
Speaker 1: Herbert fire all the coaches, dude like settled down like

1625
01:40:50,360 --> 01:40:52,760
Speaker 1: stuff that there are some things that do need to

1626
01:40:52,840 --> 01:40:57,000
Speaker 1: get fixed, but let's just relax. Your team was number

1627
01:40:57,040 --> 01:40:59,960
Speaker 1: six in the playoffs at the end of the season,

1628
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:04,679
Speaker 1: lost the game that they should not have lost. Georgia

1629
01:41:04,760 --> 01:41:10,640
Speaker 1: lost to freaking South Carolina. Are we firing Kirby Smart? No,

1630
01:41:10,960 --> 01:41:14,960
Speaker 1: man like, chill out like it was a terrible, terrible loss.

1631
01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:19,240
Speaker 1: Should not have lost the game. Boycott the Civil War,

1632
01:41:19,360 --> 01:41:21,160
Speaker 1: Get the hell out of here. Go be a fan

1633
01:41:21,240 --> 01:41:23,600
Speaker 1: of somebody else. If you're if you're gonna boycott a

1634
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:26,840
Speaker 1: game because you're because you're nine win team, because you're

1635
01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:29,840
Speaker 1: nine and two team lost the game, boycott the game.

1636
01:41:29,880 --> 01:41:32,799
Speaker 1: How about being damn fan? Show up and cheer extra

1637
01:41:32,880 --> 01:41:35,160
Speaker 1: loud the way the way your team can have an

1638
01:41:35,200 --> 01:41:38,200
Speaker 1: advantage in the Civil War. I love Oregon fans, but

1639
01:41:38,240 --> 01:41:41,120
Speaker 1: there are sometimes that it's just like and it's and

1640
01:41:41,120 --> 01:41:43,400
Speaker 1: it's not just Oregon fans, it's college football fans in

1641
01:41:43,439 --> 01:41:47,840
Speaker 1: general on some absolute nonsense route. I I just can't

1642
01:41:47,880 --> 01:41:52,519
Speaker 1: take it. It's frustrating and like, oh and oh, I'm

1643
01:41:52,600 --> 01:41:57,360
Speaker 1: happy to see Herbert go. Really really I believe Tyler

1644
01:41:57,400 --> 01:42:00,400
Speaker 1: Shug is a good quarterback. But but but you want

1645
01:42:00,400 --> 01:42:04,000
Speaker 1: to see a a top ten NFL pick leave, You're

1646
01:42:04,080 --> 01:42:07,840
Speaker 1: you're just like, oh, yeah, yeah, get get rid of him. Okay,

1647
01:42:07,920 --> 01:42:11,240
Speaker 1: So for the for the unknown, all right, don't don't

1648
01:42:11,280 --> 01:42:15,680
Speaker 1: be an idiot. Yeah again, forty seven touchdowns, nine interceptions

1649
01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:20,040
Speaker 1: over his last twenty one games. He's he's he's been excellent.

1650
01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:24,040
Speaker 1: Um this game notwithstanding which ps, if you look at

1651
01:42:24,040 --> 01:42:30,320
Speaker 1: the final stats, four yards, two touchdowns, not terrible, right,

1652
01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:33,000
Speaker 1: I mean he figured it out a little bit. They

1653
01:42:33,680 --> 01:42:38,000
Speaker 1: it seemed to me that they were missing something. Um uh.

1654
01:42:38,240 --> 01:42:40,880
Speaker 1: Jalen Red was he out? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, he got

1655
01:42:42,200 --> 01:42:45,840
Speaker 1: hurt in the Arizona game. He he had really really

1656
01:42:45,920 --> 01:42:49,519
Speaker 1: hurt ribs, like he had an ab donald injury. Yeah,

1657
01:42:49,520 --> 01:42:51,960
Speaker 1: so yeah, you you had some. It was very clear

1658
01:42:52,000 --> 01:42:53,559
Speaker 1: from just being out there on the field during the

1659
01:42:53,600 --> 01:42:56,120
Speaker 1: game that that there were there was some chemistry and

1660
01:42:56,120 --> 01:43:00,320
Speaker 1: receiving issues. Ke was hurt too, he broke his armed

1661
01:43:00,400 --> 01:43:03,240
Speaker 1: last game. You and I have known each other for

1662
01:43:03,240 --> 01:43:05,080
Speaker 1: probably over a you have been doing this podcast for

1663
01:43:05,120 --> 01:43:07,200
Speaker 1: a few months. But what's something you always hear me

1664
01:43:07,280 --> 01:43:10,240
Speaker 1: say is eventually that Oregon is going to find out

1665
01:43:10,240 --> 01:43:14,040
Speaker 1: that Johnny Johnson is a screen guy, right like that

1666
01:43:14,439 --> 01:43:16,960
Speaker 1: it's some that he's not a downfield guy. As much

1667
01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:18,759
Speaker 1: as you want to air it out to him. Eventually

1668
01:43:18,840 --> 01:43:20,760
Speaker 1: you're going to find out that if you give him

1669
01:43:20,760 --> 01:43:22,280
Speaker 1: the ball just a couple of yards from the line

1670
01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:24,479
Speaker 1: of scrimmage, he can do some special things. And lo

1671
01:43:24,640 --> 01:43:28,800
Speaker 1: and behold, look what happened. He went off two yards

1672
01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:30,719
Speaker 1: receiving and a lot of that was after the catch,

1673
01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:35,160
Speaker 1: and so, UM, I don't know. I think that there

1674
01:43:35,160 --> 01:43:38,400
Speaker 1: were definitely some issues here. Um. Part of it was

1675
01:43:38,560 --> 01:43:41,519
Speaker 1: a s U schemed really well. Part of it was

1676
01:43:41,840 --> 01:43:45,439
Speaker 1: Jack Jones, who had probably the dumbest penalty of all time,

1677
01:43:46,040 --> 01:43:50,200
Speaker 1: hiring from the sidelines, which was which I mean, there's

1678
01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:51,800
Speaker 1: the same thing a s U fans are like, please

1679
01:43:51,880 --> 01:43:55,040
Speaker 1: kick him off the team at halftime, please cut him,

1680
01:43:55,120 --> 01:43:56,720
Speaker 1: And then he spent All he did was spend the

1681
01:43:56,800 --> 01:44:01,040
Speaker 1: entire second half baiting Justin Herbert and eventually we're you know,

1682
01:44:01,080 --> 01:44:03,360
Speaker 1: he got an interception that set up what was probably

1683
01:44:03,439 --> 01:44:08,559
Speaker 1: the touchdown that that that that made the comeback fairly improbable. Um.

1684
01:44:09,720 --> 01:44:12,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't see Honestly, I didn't see

1685
01:44:12,760 --> 01:44:15,719
Speaker 1: a bad Oregon team. I saw a team that made

1686
01:44:15,720 --> 01:44:19,920
Speaker 1: a few questionable coaching decisions. Um, but this team was

1687
01:44:20,120 --> 01:44:23,320
Speaker 1: blowing up Arizona State at the last image, I mean

1688
01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:27,280
Speaker 1: c J. Verdell. There was a point in this game

1689
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:29,439
Speaker 1: where it was like, how many times can a s

1690
01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:32,960
Speaker 1: use one deep safety that they were playing be the

1691
01:44:33,000 --> 01:44:36,479
Speaker 1: one to bring down the back? If if c J.

1692
01:44:36,640 --> 01:44:40,120
Speaker 1: Verdell was a guy that made cuts, uh, then you

1693
01:44:40,160 --> 01:44:43,639
Speaker 1: know he probably has three four touchdowns in the first half. Dude,

1694
01:44:43,800 --> 01:44:48,200
Speaker 1: they you you had Travis Yeah, you you had Travis

1695
01:44:48,280 --> 01:44:51,080
Speaker 1: diet average in eleven yards to carry c J. Verdella

1696
01:44:51,120 --> 01:44:55,679
Speaker 1: averaging almost six he uh bble leakyo seven and a half.

1697
01:44:55,960 --> 01:44:58,160
Speaker 1: Even though it's only on two carries. You're just like,

1698
01:44:58,400 --> 01:45:01,479
Speaker 1: run the damn football, man, and run the football. I

1699
01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:05,880
Speaker 1: could not understand, like just run them over, Like just

1700
01:45:06,160 --> 01:45:09,040
Speaker 1: run them over it is you have the offensive line

1701
01:45:09,080 --> 01:45:11,600
Speaker 1: to do it, and then play action and throw it

1702
01:45:11,680 --> 01:45:15,360
Speaker 1: over their their head. The math was simple, yep. And

1703
01:45:15,400 --> 01:45:18,040
Speaker 1: I think that the issue is that when teams who

1704
01:45:18,160 --> 01:45:21,439
Speaker 1: don't get down very often feel like they should be winning,

1705
01:45:22,120 --> 01:45:24,680
Speaker 1: they get away from their game plan and they get

1706
01:45:24,720 --> 01:45:28,400
Speaker 1: a little skittish. They were making. I mean, Arizona State

1707
01:45:28,439 --> 01:45:32,040
Speaker 1: had a masterful game plan defensively. Um, it's like, all right, well,

1708
01:45:32,040 --> 01:45:34,080
Speaker 1: if you're gonna blow us up running the ball, we're

1709
01:45:34,080 --> 01:45:38,320
Speaker 1: not going to overload the box. We're just gonna let you,

1710
01:45:38,320 --> 01:45:39,800
Speaker 1: you know. And it helped that they were winning at

1711
01:45:39,800 --> 01:45:42,280
Speaker 1: the time. But we're gonna we're gonna let you think

1712
01:45:42,320 --> 01:45:44,840
Speaker 1: that you need to pass when you don't, and that

1713
01:45:45,320 --> 01:45:48,160
Speaker 1: and and that was you know, honestly, it just played

1714
01:45:48,200 --> 01:45:50,400
Speaker 1: right in the Arizona State's hands. And then it's not

1715
01:45:50,439 --> 01:45:53,040
Speaker 1: like Arizona State was calling the best game either. They

1716
01:45:53,080 --> 01:45:55,560
Speaker 1: probably should have scored three, maybe four touchdowns in that

1717
01:45:55,680 --> 01:45:58,519
Speaker 1: first half. They scored one touchdown in that first half.

1718
01:45:58,600 --> 01:46:01,520
Speaker 1: I thought that was a credit it to the Oregon defense.

1719
01:46:02,040 --> 01:46:03,720
Speaker 1: But I want to give a lot of credit to

1720
01:46:04,120 --> 01:46:07,360
Speaker 1: the Arizona State offense. Though they did a great job

1721
01:46:07,400 --> 01:46:12,680
Speaker 1: of scheming against Oregon. They ran them. Uh, they did

1722
01:46:12,720 --> 01:46:15,680
Speaker 1: a lot of half rolls, They made a lot of

1723
01:46:15,880 --> 01:46:19,080
Speaker 1: early adjustments that Oregon responded to in the second half,

1724
01:46:19,520 --> 01:46:22,040
Speaker 1: but they just kept them off balance, got the ball

1725
01:46:22,080 --> 01:46:27,120
Speaker 1: out out of Jalen um uh Daniel's hands early and

1726
01:46:27,200 --> 01:46:29,519
Speaker 1: quick so they could get him in the rhythm and

1727
01:46:29,600 --> 01:46:31,839
Speaker 1: Oregon was not prepared for that. They did a wonderful

1728
01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:33,799
Speaker 1: job with with that. They deserve a lot of credit.

1729
01:46:33,840 --> 01:46:37,920
Speaker 1: They outschemed Oregon and then they got down and they

1730
01:46:37,960 --> 01:46:41,960
Speaker 1: could not respond. And then when it came time to respond,

1731
01:46:42,280 --> 01:46:45,080
Speaker 1: Jade Daniels, with the ice water in his veins, made

1732
01:46:45,160 --> 01:46:48,439
Speaker 1: perfect throws. He did not overthrow wide receivers. If he

1733
01:46:48,479 --> 01:46:51,160
Speaker 1: had underthrown either of those balls, they get broken up

1734
01:46:52,160 --> 01:46:55,519
Speaker 1: and it's just a totally different ball ball game. Arizona

1735
01:46:55,560 --> 01:46:59,439
Speaker 1: State would probably lose, and so but they deserve a

1736
01:46:59,439 --> 01:47:04,280
Speaker 1: lot of credit. How good can he be, George, Oh dude,

1737
01:47:04,320 --> 01:47:08,880
Speaker 1: he as of right now, his trajectory says that he's

1738
01:47:08,880 --> 01:47:11,760
Speaker 1: going to be an NFL first round quarterback. I mean,

1739
01:47:11,800 --> 01:47:15,040
Speaker 1: he is fantastic. He I think he's going to be

1740
01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:18,479
Speaker 1: better than any quarterback in the Pack twelve right now

1741
01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:21,320
Speaker 1: by by the time his junior year in att includes Herbert.

1742
01:47:21,800 --> 01:47:25,639
Speaker 1: He looks that damn good. I'm I'm so blown away

1743
01:47:25,640 --> 01:47:28,280
Speaker 1: by just his composure. So I followed him around with

1744
01:47:28,320 --> 01:47:31,559
Speaker 1: a camera before the game. Um, he just kind of

1745
01:47:31,600 --> 01:47:37,400
Speaker 1: stands off by himself and just smiling about what. You know,

1746
01:47:37,479 --> 01:47:40,559
Speaker 1: he's not, He's he engages with his teammates when they

1747
01:47:40,560 --> 01:47:43,400
Speaker 1: come over, but he's just kind of like waiting for

1748
01:47:43,439 --> 01:47:47,640
Speaker 1: the game to start, looking not board, not restless, but

1749
01:47:47,800 --> 01:47:52,280
Speaker 1: just like content, just content to be there. And did

1750
01:47:52,320 --> 01:47:55,200
Speaker 1: you see his reaction when he threw that that touchdown

1751
01:47:55,240 --> 01:47:59,080
Speaker 1: Pastor Brandon a yukon third sixteen where he just kind

1752
01:47:59,080 --> 01:48:01,759
Speaker 1: of looked to this eyeline, pointed his arm and smiled.

1753
01:48:03,320 --> 01:48:07,200
Speaker 1: That was the most low key because I mean, they

1754
01:48:06,680 --> 01:48:11,080
Speaker 1: they they knocked Oregon out of college football playoff and

1755
01:48:11,120 --> 01:48:15,400
Speaker 1: their true freshman quarterback his celebration was just a point

1756
01:48:15,439 --> 01:48:21,520
Speaker 1: to his arm and smile, Like I just this kid's

1757
01:48:21,800 --> 01:48:25,639
Speaker 1: composition and temperament are not something that I'm I'm used

1758
01:48:25,640 --> 01:48:28,720
Speaker 1: to seeing because for a long time, the best quarterbacks

1759
01:48:28,720 --> 01:48:32,639
Speaker 1: in this conference have been sort of your traditional like

1760
01:48:33,439 --> 01:48:37,840
Speaker 1: super big arm but we'll get rattled by the pass rush,

1761
01:48:37,960 --> 01:48:41,479
Speaker 1: you know type players, which is most quarterbacks, right, and

1762
01:48:41,560 --> 01:48:44,960
Speaker 1: he just some about this kid is we we keep

1763
01:48:44,960 --> 01:48:48,720
Speaker 1: calling him, you know, an offensive sociopath out here just

1764
01:48:48,800 --> 01:48:52,400
Speaker 1: like there is no but that that implies that he's

1765
01:48:52,439 --> 01:48:55,600
Speaker 1: like dead inside. He's not dead inside. He's just happy.

1766
01:48:55,800 --> 01:48:58,960
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I think that I I think

1767
01:48:58,960 --> 01:49:01,120
Speaker 1: that he's gonna be special for a long time. Oregon

1768
01:49:01,160 --> 01:49:03,240
Speaker 1: should have won this game. There's not really in excuses

1769
01:49:03,320 --> 01:49:06,240
Speaker 1: to not have have come down here and beat a

1770
01:49:06,280 --> 01:49:09,439
Speaker 1: team that just lost the Oregon State um. But at

1771
01:49:09,479 --> 01:49:11,360
Speaker 1: the beginning of the year, I thought that Oregon would

1772
01:49:11,360 --> 01:49:14,280
Speaker 1: be nine and three and not playing in the conference

1773
01:49:14,360 --> 01:49:16,599
Speaker 1: championship game. So if they have a chance to go

1774
01:49:16,640 --> 01:49:20,800
Speaker 1: eleven and two, that's far exceeds my expectations um for

1775
01:49:20,800 --> 01:49:24,120
Speaker 1: for this team. And I think that the disappointment of

1776
01:49:24,160 --> 01:49:26,080
Speaker 1: not being able to play for the College Football Playoff

1777
01:49:26,120 --> 01:49:28,839
Speaker 1: is gonna sting. You still have the opportunity to beat Utah,

1778
01:49:29,200 --> 01:49:30,880
Speaker 1: you still have the opportunity to win the Civil War.

1779
01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:36,320
Speaker 1: Like Oregon season still means a whole lot. Yeah, there's

1780
01:49:36,320 --> 01:49:40,120
Speaker 1: a lot of football left the play The only problem

1781
01:49:40,320 --> 01:49:43,880
Speaker 1: is is that now the freaking Civil Wars on pack

1782
01:49:43,920 --> 01:49:51,240
Speaker 1: twove network. Yes, serious, So you've got Notre Dame Stanford

1783
01:49:51,320 --> 01:49:56,960
Speaker 1: on Fox, the Civil War on Pac twelve network, Uh, Colorado, Utah,

1784
01:49:56,960 --> 01:50:02,240
Speaker 1: and oh, the Territorial cups that it at night any Anyways,

1785
01:50:02,479 --> 01:50:04,919
Speaker 1: you guys are listening to the Pac twebb apostles. Appreciate

1786
01:50:04,960 --> 01:50:08,000
Speaker 1: your lot. We we should have called this one the

1787
01:50:08,040 --> 01:50:11,240
Speaker 1: Mega episode because this is a mega episode now. Um.

1788
01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:14,839
Speaker 1: We appreciate your t I appreciate your energy. Thank you guys.

1789
01:50:15,120 --> 01:50:16,760
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1790
01:50:16,800 --> 01:50:19,080
Speaker 1: about the Pac tweble Apostles. Peace out, catch you latter.