Speaker 1: This is How Men Think with brooks Like and Gavin
Speaker 1: to Grab and I heard radio podcast. Hey everybody, what's up.
Speaker 1: It's Gavin to Grow. We're here for another episode of
Speaker 1: How Men Think. That's the first time I've ever said that,
Speaker 1: actually because usually our co host brooks Like is here,
Speaker 1: but he is climbing Kilmunjaro. It's not bullshit, that's actually real.
Speaker 1: Uh So, anyway, it's just the few of us amigos,
Speaker 1: and uh one of us is wearing aspedoes because from
Speaker 1: where I'm kidding, all I see is he looks naked
Speaker 1: so many things for one item. Are you uncomfortable? No,
Speaker 1: only if you turned towards me, I'll be pretty uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: Were you want of the impression we were gonna do
Speaker 1: the same thing in the pool or no? Well, so, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're up in Taho right now. So I'm thrilled to
Speaker 1: be here. And you know the reason we're here. One
Speaker 1: of the reasons I'm here is to we're swimming doing
Speaker 1: a relay race. I'm here with all my teammates we're
Speaker 1: excited about. So I'm just mentally preparing for the race,
Speaker 1: which is tomorrow morning. So I thought, as we did
Speaker 1: the podcast we should you know, get in race mode.
Speaker 1: I like it. Well, I don't know goggles because then
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be able to see you didn't know this,
Speaker 1: but I am too wearing speedos today. Yes, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: just thinking with you. So anyways, um, so when you
Speaker 1: swim tomorrow tomorrow, what is your stroke gonna be? I
Speaker 1: mean swimming stroke? Freestyle? It's all freestyle. Twelve mile relay
Speaker 1: race with six people that's not very far and the
Speaker 1: water is freezing. The water is yeah, low sixties right now,
Speaker 1: so it's gonna gon shrink that it already is sitting
Speaker 1: here talking to you. It's very good, very good. Can
Speaker 1: I tell you tomorrow? It's since it's freestyle, I'm much
Speaker 1: more looking forward to that view than the one I'm
Speaker 1: looking at right now. I can see the front a
Speaker 1: little bit. It's making me uncomfortable. Well I can go.
Speaker 1: I can swim backstroke tomorrow. Oh no, let's jump in here.
Speaker 1: So so, Dmitri's here, Rick's here, Brooks is not here?
Speaker 1: Who else is not here? Ryan's not here? Is he
Speaker 1: in protest mode right now? His contractors? What's going on?
Speaker 1: Very competitive with Brooks? So while Brooks's climbing kilimanjar is
Speaker 1: on a baby moon with his wife, really, so that's
Speaker 1: when you know, he and his wife go away before
Speaker 1: their their baby comes to have like one last hurrah,
Speaker 1: which which is pretty much reality, right, it's one last hurrah.
Speaker 1: But he already has a kid, so it's not like,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how many he already knows
Speaker 1: that with him on the baby moon or no, the baby,
Speaker 1: the other kids can't stayed home. Okay, the kid and
Speaker 1: his son, which obviously he's wearing Daryl Darryl's son. So
Speaker 1: let's let's see who else is here in the house.
Speaker 1: We have Ashley Perfect and you have your own podcast,
Speaker 1: don't you now? You you were on The Bachelor. You
Speaker 1: were on during the Chris soul Stays right and beyond
Speaker 1: and beyond after that and since then you've branched out
Speaker 1: and I talk about The Bachelor now on the almost
Speaker 1: famous podcast commentator The Cupid Commentator, right, and you're here
Speaker 1: with a bit like ironically, we just happened to be
Speaker 1: here accidentally. We knew that the women from the Batchlor
Speaker 1: are going to be here at the same time, and
Speaker 1: we totally weren't planning on that. I mean, how nice
Speaker 1: to bumping you guys in the same house. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: like to use the same I heart radio mix. Oh,
Speaker 1: I mean what are the chances? So you said you've
Speaker 1: had some conversations, conversations with these amazing ladies and they
Speaker 1: had some questions that they wanted to ask us. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think all the Bachelor girls are going to come
Speaker 1: on and ask you guys a question Before I ask mine,
Speaker 1: I have to ask two unrelated questions. To wear this
Speaker 1: pio to go the two mile? Really you're going to
Speaker 1: do We're going to do yourself to two miles? Right?
Speaker 1: I probably will turn out to be two miles. It's
Speaker 1: a twelve mile race with six people. How do you
Speaker 1: not freeze? And then you swim fast and hopefully your
Speaker 1: body stays warm. But the rules to the races you
Speaker 1: cannot wear a wetsuit, so you can wear another type
Speaker 1: of you know, bathing suit. Why do you choose speedo
Speaker 1: because it's the most streamline so you can go the fast?
Speaker 1: Do you really believe in that? Like do you like shave? Oh?
Speaker 1: I shave? Yeah. This guy is like, by the way,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever seen Rick swim. He
Speaker 1: is a porpoise. This is cool. I actually want to
Speaker 1: see this real. Yeah, that's right, a bottom those bottom
Speaker 1: I'm more of a narwhale right. So, and by the way,
Speaker 1: this is a team event. Gavin and I will be
Speaker 1: on the boat riding alongside him while he swims. We
Speaker 1: will probably have time in the morning. Okay, that's that's that.
Speaker 1: Oh I could I could do that. There a satellite
Speaker 1: a satellite version of this from the hotel room a stream?
Speaker 1: Is there a later virgin? Can you guess swim later?
Speaker 1: Can you do it again later when I wake up
Speaker 1: like a matinee in the Matter show? Yeah, let's do that. Okay, Rick,
Speaker 1: would you manscape and shave if it weren't for your
Speaker 1: swimming habits? Yeah, of course I like it. It feels good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would shave pretty much everything. But really, yeah, so
Speaker 1: you're a chest shaver. I shaved my chest. I clip like,
Speaker 1: I don't really call it shaving, like in my idea
Speaker 1: is shaving as like you're actually taking the razor and
Speaker 1: like shaving your face. Well, Dmitri and I actually help
Speaker 1: him lather first, then he does a shaving alone because
Speaker 1: he's big boy now and we trust him with sharp objects.
Speaker 1: But the truth is, if he's lathered up correctly, which
Speaker 1: you know we are thorough about it, then he'll be
Speaker 1: fine because we don't need him jumping in the lake
Speaker 1: with razor burn. No, you don't want razor burn. So
Speaker 1: I clip and clip my chest, clip my under arms.
Speaker 1: The most appealing to women or to yourself? To myself, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: to myself. You know, it's all about you know where
Speaker 1: it spreads from there. That's that's where we go. Do
Speaker 1: you think women prefer that very hairy chest or do
Speaker 1: they like the smooth shaven My fiance is somewhere in between.
Speaker 1: He has like a really great natural pattern of chest hair.
Speaker 1: What's a natural pattern? Look like like an argy from
Speaker 1: the forest. Like I'd say, like his hair had raverage
Speaker 1: them out, the hairs would probably be like about half
Speaker 1: an inch in length. Yeah, but he doesn't shave. He
Speaker 1: just has like naturally great patterns. Also doesn't have belly hair.
Speaker 1: He chest hair's nice. Wow. What about the back hair?
Speaker 1: Back of that should always be done with? Yeah, did
Speaker 1: your back hair? Did you look out that he had
Speaker 1: this pattern that you prefer or did you I think
Speaker 1: I think I'd really not have a strong preference either way.
Speaker 1: So it's not a deal breaker. No, but I hear
Speaker 1: a lot of girls will strongly like chest hair or
Speaker 1: will strongly like no hair. So girls don't like back hair.
Speaker 1: We could definitely do an Instagram pull on this. Do
Speaker 1: girls like back hair? Absolutely not toback hair? And why
Speaker 1: do all girls love dogs? Because their animals? Okay, do
Speaker 1: you guys do Dmitri? Gavin? Do you man escape at all? No? Sorry? No,
Speaker 1: I do? Okay, alright, moving on. My other question was, Gavin,
Speaker 1: have you watched One Tree Hill? Did you watch one?
Speaker 1: Ever seen it? That's wacky? Isn't that weird? I don't
Speaker 1: watch TV? Okay, so hyped me up for every single
Speaker 1: episode of Like I don't know how many episodes there
Speaker 1: were over two, right, it's pretty awesome. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I heard it was good. It was amazing. Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1: You still get the checks for every much? Do you
Speaker 1: get the checks? Checks? Soap opera dot? I like getting checks,
Speaker 1: but I love writing checks. I just love to write
Speaker 1: checks because it reminds you of being an elementary school
Speaker 1: pharmacy gum. You know tex So I'm like, could please
Speaker 1: allow me? I just love reaching for it was a check?
Speaker 1: What I mean? I don't know what it is. It
Speaker 1: just allows me to what was the last time you
Speaker 1: wrote a check at like a grocery store or at
Speaker 1: a store. Last time I was at a grocery store. Actually,
Speaker 1: I wrote a check out a store this morning. I
Speaker 1: tried when last night I drove in from Vegas. I
Speaker 1: drove my truck from Vegas right because I was going
Speaker 1: to get on a plane, but flying sucks, so I
Speaker 1: decided I'd rather drive eight hours. I pulled into a
Speaker 1: convenience store last night with my dog and I went
Speaker 1: up there with a couple of six packs um because
Speaker 1: I was dehydrated, and uh, I was hoping to buy
Speaker 1: a couple of them. It was it was two oh six.
Speaker 1: I put him on a counter and uh, and the
Speaker 1: guy said, oh, sorry, I can't sell you beer right now.
Speaker 1: And I was like, two or six? Two or six?
Speaker 1: Is there another too? And I was like there's no.
Speaker 1: It was more wondering you could get a six pack
Speaker 1: in We're in the wrong country for that. So so anyway,
Speaker 1: two six packs at two or six am. He can't
Speaker 1: sell them to me, and I said why not? He said,
Speaker 1: we can't sell after two am. I said, break the rules.
Speaker 1: And a guy from behind bhind me goes, there's a
Speaker 1: police officer behind you, and there's a cops standing right
Speaker 1: behind me. No fifth minute break and let me do
Speaker 1: my thing, you know. Luckily a good laughing. Luckily he
Speaker 1: was a one tree hill fantally. Yeah, totally like I
Speaker 1: do what you guys play basketball on the show. Okay,
Speaker 1: so thanks, I'm going to try to real listen and
Speaker 1: get back to my original topic. So anyway I could
Speaker 1: write the check is what I meant to say. I
Speaker 1: really wanted Tom on my part. It actually started with
Speaker 1: the I Heart radio podcast Help I Second Dating the
Speaker 1: topic of being in relationships and poop came up. One
Speaker 1: of the hosts, Vanessa Grimaldi, is very open with pooping. Well,
Speaker 1: how men think is we don't use the word, We
Speaker 1: don't say what should I say? But I can't say
Speaker 1: that on my heart? Okay, what do you want to
Speaker 1: go with? Dump drop a deuce, dump drop a deuce,
Speaker 1: Drop the kids off, less, drop the kids off at
Speaker 1: the swimming pool. While okay, I've ever read this dog before.
Speaker 1: I just don't like poop the word. I don't like
Speaker 1: the word poop either. It sounds like a PLoP. And
Speaker 1: then I think of the actual piece of poop plopping
Speaker 1: into the toilet. It works better at that not you know. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: So anyway, how do you feel about your significant other
Speaker 1: dropping the kids off at the pool whall um with
Speaker 1: the door opened? That was the main That was the
Speaker 1: main conversation that we had on this on that podcast,
Speaker 1: and then it rolled over to the almost famous podcast
Speaker 1: because I thought it was so controversial. Yeah, and now
Speaker 1: we can get more into like the nuances, but let's
Speaker 1: talk about that specific instance dropping the kids off at
Speaker 1: the pool with the door open, and you being like
Speaker 1: into the may need to go right now, and we
Speaker 1: can just try it. Somebody go in there. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: same way. I didn't like the word poop. I don't
Speaker 1: want really anything to do with it personally. So I
Speaker 1: think bathrooms were constructed with a door for a reason,
Speaker 1: So I think go in there and close it there,
Speaker 1: like I don't want to. And I understand that everybody
Speaker 1: does it and understand that it's a natural thing, but
Speaker 1: I don't need to be a part of it. Like
Speaker 1: I'm not even thrilled when I have to do it,
Speaker 1: So I think it's a private thing. On the show,
Speaker 1: people were actually doing almost fifty fifty. I am very
Speaker 1: strongly like, with your significant other, I think you should
Speaker 1: be closing the door. I think everybody, because now your
Speaker 1: significant other, the door should be closed. Anybody. Yeah, from
Speaker 1: which community? From the I guess the female community. The
Speaker 1: female community was like, felt comfortable doing it. Give you
Speaker 1: my theory on this. This may be a total bullshit theory,
Speaker 1: but most of my theories really are. So my guess
Speaker 1: is the only reason that we're okay with that because
Speaker 1: they're single. No. No, Because when girls go out and
Speaker 1: they go to the bathroom, there was bring a girl
Speaker 1: into the bathroom with him, whereas when guys go to
Speaker 1: the bathroom, never like, hey, bro, let's go to the
Speaker 1: bathroom together and we'll talk about what's going on. My
Speaker 1: guess is that when you go to the bathroom, some
Speaker 1: of you guys are performing this particular act having a talk,
Speaker 1: so a little bit more socialized in that capacity. From
Speaker 1: that angle, Vanessa leaves the door open while doing number
Speaker 1: two because she wants to continue with the conversation with
Speaker 1: her boyfriend, which I felt another level of disturbing. You
Speaker 1: can't just resume the conversation five minutes later. It's not
Speaker 1: the lightning around. She can I mean my my particular
Speaker 1: my opinion on that would be it's absolutely vile. It's
Speaker 1: despinutely disgusted, I think or not. I agree, it's it's weight,
Speaker 1: so you know, it's it's not something to be done socially.
Speaker 1: So I wanted to talk on the internet for that.
Speaker 1: But something I want to see is it more like
Speaker 1: I want to do. By the way, Rickett, if you
Speaker 1: push that hard, you really should check in your you
Speaker 1: need to go to a doctor. That's the next episode.
Speaker 1: Before I leave you, guys, I just want to ask
Speaker 1: you one of like roll off. Yeah, then you have
Speaker 1: all these My fiance and I, like we are together constantly,
Speaker 1: like all we live together, like we do Almoso, all
Speaker 1: work together, every trip together. So it's kind of hard
Speaker 1: to hide it now. So it's like if we're in
Speaker 1: a hotel room, like I'm going to be like, don't
Speaker 1: run in there, or like we gotta go to the
Speaker 1: bathroom now it's an emergency, Like I'll be like that,
Speaker 1: Like I pretty open when I have to tell him
Speaker 1: now like I just went or I have to go,
Speaker 1: but I would never go front of him. And like
Speaker 1: when I when I will go out and he's in
Speaker 1: the same room. I'll like, turn the water on so
Speaker 1: he doesn't hear everything that's appropriate, right, Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: my mom. I don't think my mom has ever acknowledged
Speaker 1: to my dad after thirty seven years that she even
Speaker 1: does it and they're still together. Yeah, I know, there
Speaker 1: you go, swish, Thank you so much. Thanks for coming on.
Speaker 1: You're great. You're walking into a storm? Are you? Are
Speaker 1: you nervous? I don't know what that Puccini's very nice, Puccini,
Speaker 1: nicely done. Huh? I got that your Italian? But she said,
Speaker 1: but you said it, and she said, yes, is that
Speaker 1: an Italian name? It is? Do you know Jack Mopuccini
Speaker 1: the opera composer? Of course? Who doesn't know? I mean,
Speaker 1: you're in the music industry, right, are you? What are
Speaker 1: you doing? Some of my favorite songs were composed by
Speaker 1: I'm Puccini. Hey, I'm an opera fan. I like Pavarotti.
Speaker 1: Am I saying it right? What? Pavarati? Puccini? Yeah, he
Speaker 1: wrote some great songs, Puccini. I don't know which ones,
Speaker 1: but they were great. They actually but Arias not in
Speaker 1: Butterfly labom what I thought? Right? Ron al Nido? Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't think so you don't think?
Speaker 1: So did you just make that up? All right? Well,
Speaker 1: we'll do a Google stat later. I like making up
Speaker 1: Italian in front of Italian girls. It's fun. Let's want
Speaker 1: some Starbucks together. Okay, So we're sitting here with Analyse Puccini. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is Vin with my co host Dmitri Rick. We're
Speaker 1: missing a couple. We're missing Brooks, Like right now, he's
Speaker 1: in killing Majard? Did I say that? Alright? With his
Speaker 1: lovely wife? You're saving the animals? Do you see what
Speaker 1: analyst is on now? You're you're thinking about every pronunciation
Speaker 1: that you're doing, very words, you're saying, did I do?
Speaker 1: Did I say that correctly? That's also because I just
Speaker 1: downloaded dual Lingo like two weeks ago, and I was
Speaker 1: trying to my Spanish and it is really bad, mostly English,
Speaker 1: the Queen's English. Actually, that's that's exactly correct. So so
Speaker 1: we have we have some some lovely girls here who
Speaker 1: are from the Bachelor thor the Bachelorettes, and they have
Speaker 1: interesting questions for us. Some are grosser than others. I
Speaker 1: hope we just answered the grossest one, and uh, we
Speaker 1: were hutting and at least to ask ask her question
Speaker 1: to the boys on how men think? What do you have? First? Okay,
Speaker 1: I think I don't even know how to set this
Speaker 1: one up. I guess it's just it's very simple. It's
Speaker 1: just what is it like to have a penis? Whoa,
Speaker 1: it's very simple, very and there's a lot What is it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What's it like? Um? Have you ever worried about zipping
Speaker 1: up your pants only when the two sizes is too small?
Speaker 1: But then that have you ever worried about zipping up
Speaker 1: your pants? No? Not really, That's what it's like. That's
Speaker 1: having a penis in Have you ever worried what you
Speaker 1: look like, really look like wearing a pair of sweatpants?
Speaker 1: M hmm, I mean things moving around? Have you worried
Speaker 1: about that issue? This guy is sitting here, and I mean,
Speaker 1: do you feel like I'm a little bundled up right now? Downs? Rick?
Speaker 1: What it's like they have a penis? Because since we
Speaker 1: can basically see it, go ahead, that is true, Rick,
Speaker 1: It's just the outside. Is it kind of like having
Speaker 1: like a like an ace bandage on right now? Does
Speaker 1: that what it feels? Oh? Yeah, like like I hurt myself.
Speaker 1: It's like holding everything very middle section together. It is
Speaker 1: kind of for holding the middle section. It's like spanks
Speaker 1: for us probably, yeah, totally, that's what the speedo does.
Speaker 1: But um, having a penis I like it. It's great.
Speaker 1: It's a good feeling, you know. It kind of sometimes
Speaker 1: it goes, it leans to the right, it leans to
Speaker 1: the left. You know, when you're doing any sort of manscaping,
Speaker 1: you've got to kind of pull things to different directions
Speaker 1: to get it out of the way, depending on where
Speaker 1: you're gonna go. Um, has it ever while you're man escaping,
Speaker 1: has it ever sort of moved on its own kind
Speaker 1: of like well, like if you breathe like you moved
Speaker 1: like as you were while you were just trying to
Speaker 1: get the clippers are close. It's like what kind of
Speaker 1: like you do at the barber where you like, don't
Speaker 1: forget over here a little bit off on this right
Speaker 1: right when it falls out of your hands as you're
Speaker 1: moving it around, then yeah, you need to be a
Speaker 1: little careful. Interesting, if you breathe heavy enough, then you
Speaker 1: can see things moving around at the same time, which
Speaker 1: is kind of a fun trick. What is interesting. We're
Speaker 1: looking forward to watching your balls go in it out
Speaker 1: they around man escaping you doing some sort of puppet
Speaker 1: show by yourself. Wait, let me ask you a question.
Speaker 1: Ask you a question about your question. Yeah, go for
Speaker 1: it now. I put it into a physical I interpreted
Speaker 1: physically because I'm a guy. I think oftentimes guys that
Speaker 1: thinks physically. That's what we're here for, right, How guys think?
Speaker 1: I think so. So when you asked the question, what's
Speaker 1: it like having a do you just mean physically or
Speaker 1: do you mean it? Do you mean it on a
Speaker 1: social level and another capacity? All levels? I'm curious, I
Speaker 1: mean getting an interpretation from of how you saw that question,
Speaker 1: like walking around as a man, or just what's it like?
Speaker 1: Do you remember when you're being are you just like
Speaker 1: do you get joy? You're like, this is the easiest
Speaker 1: thing ever, totally of course. And then you can go
Speaker 1: wherever you want. That's the one thing's probably a little
Speaker 1: bit of a difference. Can you write in script in
Speaker 1: your streams? Yeah, definitely not. It would be very messy.
Speaker 1: There you go. Um yeah, no, I mean as far
Speaker 1: as like peeing, yes, it is much more free. Like
Speaker 1: Rick said, you can basically do it anywhere. Um And
Speaker 1: as Gavin pointed out, you can you can right in
Speaker 1: the snow or wherever in the dirt because you can
Speaker 1: see it. You can see it in the snow. You
Speaker 1: can't see it so much in the dirt, so you'd
Speaker 1: like it's a nice canvas, I would imagine, you know.
Speaker 1: The other thing, I feel like it's sometimes it's kind
Speaker 1: of like having a little extra friend, you know, like
Speaker 1: you can like you you can hold it. You're holding
Speaker 1: it all the time pretty much, you know, and then
Speaker 1: you can just you're kind of checking on it every
Speaker 1: once in a while, like when you say good night,
Speaker 1: does it say good night back to you? What do
Speaker 1: you call yours? The eye? I mean, sure this we
Speaker 1: don't know what it's like to not have one, so
Speaker 1: that's right. Is it something that? Is that something that
Speaker 1: that women think about often? What would it be like having? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like for a day, you know, it would be kind
Speaker 1: of cool just to be like, oh, that's what that's likely. Yeah,
Speaker 1: see vice versa. I have never thought, yeah, that's interesting,
Speaker 1: but I think I mean, I love being a woman.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't change love you being a woman, thank you.
Speaker 1: But like I think it's I think that's one of
Speaker 1: the cooler things about being a guy. Really having something
Speaker 1: in between your thighs at all times when you're trying
Speaker 1: to make moves. Okay, see that's that would be going
Speaker 1: to the gym a guy. When you're getting on a bicycle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: are going to the gym or exercising, you have to
Speaker 1: wear those other type of tighter shorts or whatever versus
Speaker 1: just regular boxers or hell is having to sit on
Speaker 1: a bicycle seat for eternity and peddle or just sit
Speaker 1: just to be on it. You know. I tellt you're
Speaker 1: gonna get a swin like one of those beach cruisers.
Speaker 1: Is that your was that your brand? Plug sinn swinn?
Speaker 1: I think they're out of business. I'm not sure, but
Speaker 1: I like the showIn back in the beach cruiser is
Speaker 1: love landing. It has a huge seat, was a fine
Speaker 1: machine and it kind of like there's a little area
Speaker 1: for the arresting area for like the banana seat. Uh
Speaker 1: kind of a half cradled yes, thank you, very little
Speaker 1: space for your there's there's Yeah, it's a joy ride.
Speaker 1: I feel you. Here's my question to you, what do
Speaker 1: you think it's like? What do you think it would
Speaker 1: be like for to have one? Like a man? It
Speaker 1: was your assumption. No, it was just it was well,
Speaker 1: if I had to think about, okay, let me have
Speaker 1: a penis for a day, two things that I would
Speaker 1: want to do. Yes, those are like the two things
Speaker 1: that I'm like, you cannot with a man or a woman,
Speaker 1: though if you had it. I would want to have
Speaker 1: sex with a woman if I had a penis for
Speaker 1: a day, because I would girls, And you've never been
Speaker 1: able to say it before in front of the other ladies.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of beautiful ladies in this room. You
Speaker 1: can tell me. I won't tell a soul please in
Speaker 1: the ear now, No, I can't. Okay, Oh my god. Anyway,
Speaker 1: let me say it has been a true honor having
Speaker 1: miss Analte's cheen me on the show today. At least
Speaker 1: do you have any idea who might be the next
Speaker 1: victim of our assaults? Verbally? Could you recommend one I
Speaker 1: can handle us? I think, well, Crystal will be feisty,
Speaker 1: so let's just's fisty? Is that how you want? Have
Speaker 1: you enjoyed your experience on our show? Have I experienced it?
Speaker 1: I've laughed a lot, and so I will say that's
Speaker 1: a yes. Well, excellent, thank you for coming on. Well,
Speaker 1: before we get the Crystal, Let's take a quick break
Speaker 1: and we'll see you back soon on How Men. Thanks
Speaker 1: you all right, hello everybody, welcome back to how Men
Speaker 1: Think This is gavin to grow missing my co host
Speaker 1: Brooks like, but got a couple of my boys here today,
Speaker 1: Dmitri and Rick. Rick's going to be swimming tomorrow. We
Speaker 1: talked about his marble bags. He's rocking now. Right now,
Speaker 1: we have some ladies in the house. We are in
Speaker 1: Tahoe and we have some of the girls from The Bachelor.
Speaker 1: Next victim in line is Crystal Nielsen. She was on
Speaker 1: during the season of The Bachelor with a Now, did
Speaker 1: you end up marrying our I did not. That's why
Speaker 1: I so so uh we're gonna learn about what happened
Speaker 1: to you. But what happened to Ari? Ari found his
Speaker 1: twin flame? He did. He found a man that looked
Speaker 1: just like a lady who was hot like him? Was
Speaker 1: he hot? He's even hotter? So you didn't find him
Speaker 1: to be hot? You know? I thought I kissed him?
Speaker 1: What was it? Like, I'm kidding, I'm I'm I'm just playing.
Speaker 1: I'm just playing. I'm just I'm just playing. So we're happy.
Speaker 1: He came on here, We're gonna We're gonna let you
Speaker 1: control the questions right now because we've had all these
Speaker 1: wonderful relation in the bathroom on the show, and we
Speaker 1: want you to step out and ask us what are
Speaker 1: the types of questions that you've always wondered and want
Speaker 1: to ask a couple of idiots like us to say,
Speaker 1: so that we can lie to you at least and
Speaker 1: give you an answer. Okay, Well, I hope you because
Speaker 1: it is as honest as possible. And I was gonna
Speaker 1: go a little more towards, you know, the members side
Speaker 1: of men, but analyst really covered that topic. So I
Speaker 1: feel like I can mind the questions that were pending
Speaker 1: but answered, I answered, so I would like to know, Yes,
Speaker 1: what are guys most insecure about? And why? Man? Everything? Oh? Sorry, guys,
Speaker 1: I that was my that was my my ego. Sorry,
Speaker 1: as my insides, We're not insecure about anything. Do you
Speaker 1: have any other questions for us? We are totally in
Speaker 1: control of the situation, is what I mean. I'm not
Speaker 1: believing that. Do you mean? Do you do you mean
Speaker 1: specifically one thing that all men share? Now? I mean,
Speaker 1: as use three individual men, what are you most insecure
Speaker 1: about well, there was about a split second that when
Speaker 1: I walked out with my speedo, I was a little
Speaker 1: bit insecure about which part is just being shirtless pretty
Speaker 1: much pretty much naked beside it takes balls to wear
Speaker 1: that because we can see them, so we know. But
Speaker 1: I mean, going back to the other the previous question is,
Speaker 1: you know, I think there are some things that you know,
Speaker 1: men may be insecure about, and maybe Penis could be
Speaker 1: one of them, or maybe their looks or maybe they're
Speaker 1: you know, their job or what you know, so you know,
Speaker 1: Dmitri has an answer over here, you know what. To
Speaker 1: be honest, I'm insecure. I don't want to be seen
Speaker 1: as somebody that's like rude or not not, Like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to be seen as a douche bag. Like
Speaker 1: I use sarcasm a lot and I joke around a lot,
Speaker 1: but I don't want anybody to ever think that I'm
Speaker 1: like I'm a douchebag and like I don't care about
Speaker 1: other people's feelings and stuff like that that I think
Speaker 1: would bother me. I think what you're saying is just
Speaker 1: because I hurt them, doesn't mean I don't care about
Speaker 1: your feelings. Yeah, right, for sure, so for all these
Speaker 1: speed old things. I know Rick, I know he's not
Speaker 1: gonna be upset about it. What yeah, whatever, whatever, Scot awkward.
Speaker 1: So insecurities about Bonnie and penis, insecurities about perception, perception.
Speaker 1: I think we have all of the insecurities any insecurity
Speaker 1: women could have other than her physical parts. We have
Speaker 1: them in the in our field. We have the physical fears,
Speaker 1: we have the emotional fears, we have the the the
Speaker 1: tool insecurities that everybody else has. Do you get fears?
Speaker 1: Can I ask? Do you get fears in regards to relationships?
Speaker 1: Because I know for women particularly like I'm thirty one
Speaker 1: and there's that that ticking time bomb of well I'm
Speaker 1: married now and I'll be a geriatric pregnancy in three
Speaker 1: and a half years. So I feel that sense of
Speaker 1: urgency of I need to get moving, but yeah, I
Speaker 1: still feel so young. So do you guys? You don't
Speaker 1: have that limitation on how long you can have children. No,
Speaker 1: not physically like that, but I think we do have
Speaker 1: the the feeling of I don't want to be seventy
Speaker 1: five and chasing around a toddler like we want to
Speaker 1: be able to you know me there for the kids,
Speaker 1: and be active in their lives. So in that respect,
Speaker 1: we do have that, But obviously it's not a physical
Speaker 1: thing because we don't actually carry and deliver the babies.
Speaker 1: That's true. But but I think you're right there. There
Speaker 1: is a physical element to it. It's not necessarily the
Speaker 1: delivery of the of the birth right, but it truly is,
Speaker 1: I think, in essence, being able to be fundamentally at
Speaker 1: least at like in the history of being a man,
Speaker 1: of being able to be the protector. You know, you
Speaker 1: understand protect the house right. So there's a very fundamental
Speaker 1: male function tribally speaking, And if you read any Joseph Campbell,
Speaker 1: you see he references it over and over and over again.
Speaker 1: There's certain fundamental, fundamental tribal functions that men provide. One
Speaker 1: of them is protections. So of course, if you're very old, dad,
Speaker 1: you won't necessarily feel the ability to perform your function,
Speaker 1: your primal physical male function. That is true. But we're
Speaker 1: in such a day and age where there are men
Speaker 1: who are stay at home dads, and they're taking on
Speaker 1: more of a feminine role and the mom is, you know,
Speaker 1: out there hustling doing her thing like a boss asked
Speaker 1: woman and like, that's definitely having a cultural shift. So
Speaker 1: it is like in an a characteristic but culturally it's
Speaker 1: actually becoming more acceptable for men to be more feminine
Speaker 1: in that nurturing aspect until somebody breaks in the house
Speaker 1: and how feminine? How feminine would you want him to
Speaker 1: be at definitely? Know you know what I mean, no disrespect,
Speaker 1: but there's certain functions that men are expected to perform,
Speaker 1: period or whatever. But men will feel the inadequacy if
Speaker 1: they don't perform that function. So would you're saying you'd
Speaker 1: feel inadequate if you were a provider family? No, No,
Speaker 1: I'd feel inadequate if I felt like I was enabled
Speaker 1: unable to protect the family physics definitely. But as far
Speaker 1: as be a provider, would you feel inadequate? Not at
Speaker 1: all at all. So you're looking for sugar Mama's No not.
Speaker 1: Hopefully this podcast is not successful and then yeah, not
Speaker 1: not sugar Mama is. Actually I think a lot of
Speaker 1: men want a total alpha female. So I think a
Speaker 1: lot of them are looking for a woman who can
Speaker 1: who can take care of a lot of things on
Speaker 1: her own that are outside of the house. I think
Speaker 1: that's healthy, So I don't think it's it's men feeling
Speaker 1: like they can't be at the house if the woman
Speaker 1: say a higher earner. Right, So let's say you have
Speaker 1: a job and I have a job, but you're making
Speaker 1: twice the money. I'm not going to say, you know what, honey,
Speaker 1: stay at the house with the kids. I would say, financially,
Speaker 1: speaking personally, for me, I would say, it's it's just
Speaker 1: a smarter business move and as a and as a family,
Speaker 1: as a couple for me to stay home at that
Speaker 1: point because you're making you're making a better living, would
Speaker 1: primal instincts to be a provider. Though, interfere with that
Speaker 1: logic because I know for a lot of us there's
Speaker 1: a sense of ego and these expectations and I mean
Speaker 1: appearents of how men should be. No, like, I have
Speaker 1: a career and I and I work on my own,
Speaker 1: but my wife went to business school and she she's
Speaker 1: the CEO. She runs businesses as well, And that doesn't
Speaker 1: like that's fantastic, It doesn't. I never feel, you know,
Speaker 1: whether I go and I write jokes or I you know,
Speaker 1: write scripts or whatever, I never feel like, oh I'm inadequate,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing this, or that. We also have four kids.
Speaker 1: So in l A, I think you have to have
Speaker 1: multiple jobs. Um, but no, I don't. I don't ever
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, she's she's a brilliant person and
Speaker 1: so I've never felt like inferior because she may have,
Speaker 1: you know, can can be seen as a more intelligent job.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and I was going to say that I
Speaker 1: feel like those people are those men that allow that
Speaker 1: to get in the way, Those are the douche bags.
Speaker 1: Those are the guys. Those are the guys that are
Speaker 1: have you know, they think they're too cool or they
Speaker 1: need to run this particular way of their life with
Speaker 1: their wife or their partner, and and that's the and
Speaker 1: it's usually the reason. The reason they feel in secure
Speaker 1: about it is because they can't do that. So it's
Speaker 1: that whole take someone else down. Yeah, there's something they're
Speaker 1: being outdone by somebody, and they hate the fact that
Speaker 1: it's a female. So that's a real issue, which is
Speaker 1: crazy when it's here when it's your significant other, because
Speaker 1: it's like it's the relationships where you can't feel completely
Speaker 1: happy for your significant other when something happens that's great
Speaker 1: for them, when you feel jealous. That's not a good mixture.
Speaker 1: Of a relationship and the other thing, yeah, sorry interrupted.
Speaker 1: The other thing I was going to say about fear
Speaker 1: in general is, you know, like I, the older we get.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not near my death, but I start
Speaker 1: thinking about death, like and how am I gonna go?
Speaker 1: And and am I gonna have a heart attack tomorrow?
Speaker 1: Swimming you know in the lake razy is jumping in
Speaker 1: the coldest deepest If you do, can we bury you
Speaker 1: in your speedo? Actually? If you die, can I have
Speaker 1: your stuff? You get? Have my speed up? Hey, I
Speaker 1: have a question. It's pretty small. Do you think it
Speaker 1: would still shrinking in the dry if I toted? Uh? No,
Speaker 1: I mean I was just gonna say, the older we get,
Speaker 1: like I you know, I do you know, it does
Speaker 1: creep into my mind about death and like how am
Speaker 1: I going to die? And you know, my kids and
Speaker 1: you know, how is that going to react? And you know,
Speaker 1: how are they going to react and how are they
Speaker 1: gonna feel? And just I start I think it's mainly
Speaker 1: because my dad's getting older and that's starting to creep
Speaker 1: in I think his mind, and it's also creeping into
Speaker 1: my mind, um and watching him go through that, and
Speaker 1: so it's a very interesting fear to have um, and
Speaker 1: you know, being thirty one, you probably don't think about
Speaker 1: that at all. You're like, let's go, let's go hop
Speaker 1: on a plane, let's go there, let's get in the thing.
Speaker 1: And for me, I'm like, oh, I'm going to Hong
Speaker 1: Kong on aift flight, Like I wonder what's going to happen. No,
Speaker 1: I definitely do. My cousin when he was twenty one,
Speaker 1: died of an enlarged heart, had a heart attack, and
Speaker 1: I went and had uh an X ray genn and
Speaker 1: found that I also have an enlarged like in the
Speaker 1: front frontal facement of my heart, so that for a
Speaker 1: long time I definitely was afraid that I wouldn't have
Speaker 1: like this longevity of life. So that has been like
Speaker 1: a huge wickup call. So I really truly look at
Speaker 1: every year is such a such an honor to get older.
Speaker 1: But I still get photox every now and then. I
Speaker 1: can't tell it's got a little touch up wettle baby.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, thank you so much for having me,
Speaker 1: and thank you, yeah, thank you for thank you for
Speaker 1: giving me such a perspective. And I think it's so
Speaker 1: awesome to see men just really empower women and you know,
Speaker 1: not feel you know, confined in these expectations that our
Speaker 1: fathers and grandfather is hot because times are shifting, so
Speaker 1: it's important just to be open and support what's best
Speaker 1: for everyone. It's true, and I think it's important that
Speaker 1: that men are able to have a conversation with women
Speaker 1: to express our our vulnerabilities as well. You know, for
Speaker 1: a long time we were told to essentially suppress all
Speaker 1: versions of of every weakness we had. You know, no,
Speaker 1: I don't need to go to the doctor. No I
Speaker 1: don't have a fever. No I don't need addville. No
Speaker 1: I don't you know what I mean? So, so great question.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on this show. You're great.
Speaker 1: Thank you. That's okay, I think he did great anyway. Okay,
Speaker 1: so so Crystal Christal was going to leave, but she
Speaker 1: had a really fiery question and uh we told her
Speaker 1: not to ask it. So here it is. What is question?
Speaker 1: You know? I just want to say to my husband,
Speaker 1: I am so happy and satisfied. But for all my
Speaker 1: sisters out there, yes, asking for a friend. I just
Speaker 1: I am curious to know and how can multiple orgasms
Speaker 1: occur from your male partner? Is there a particular a
Speaker 1: roma or smell or like a special pair of socks
Speaker 1: that you wear, because definitely you were a speedo. She
Speaker 1: wears the speedo though. Um boy, so wow, how do
Speaker 1: you get men to multiple times in a row? Okay,
Speaker 1: what's in a row for you? And then how much time?
Speaker 1: Within how much time? I would say, within seconds? M
Speaker 1: do you have a video of that? Asking for a friend? Uh? So?
Speaker 1: Oh boy? So are you asking this uh for your
Speaker 1: other people? Because you've been so lucky, but you want
Speaker 1: them to be as lucky as exactly. I just want
Speaker 1: to help out, help the sisters out right, So I'm
Speaker 1: curious to know actually the men on this panel want
Speaker 1: to help the sisters out too. I think you're trying
Speaker 1: to figure this out. We all just come together and
Speaker 1: like pull up the white board and together you can
Speaker 1: forget about There's a lot of curious, confused places over here.
Speaker 1: So it seems that no one actually knows. It's like,
Speaker 1: no one knows how women like all cycle together, and
Speaker 1: clearly multiples are threw us with the socks thing. And
Speaker 1: I think that was a kind of jab in the
Speaker 1: face because I think we're trying to figure out and
Speaker 1: you mentioned socks, and I was like, now I'm thinking
Speaker 1: about what Like, I know Gavin, he's he's particularly with
Speaker 1: tup socks when he has I love a tupesock, certainly
Speaker 1: a pair of tustack man with the little colored bands
Speaker 1: at the top, the tall ones, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And a headband. I use those two so good together combo. Yes,
Speaker 1: for sure, Absolutely eighties basketball players what I go for.
Speaker 1: That's what I do. I rocked the short shorts just
Speaker 1: like about a foot and a half above the knee,
Speaker 1: just below the speeder line. Can multiply? Oh can I are?
Speaker 1: You're asking me a personal question. Well, I'm just saying
Speaker 1: if it's all inspired, I think when you're with I
Speaker 1: think when you're with the right person, that shouldn't be
Speaker 1: an issue. So uh and so um, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just think there's a certain there's a chemistry thing
Speaker 1: right with people. I don't know if you call it
Speaker 1: love or you call it whatever you want, but when
Speaker 1: there's a lot there's a severe amount of chemistry, and
Speaker 1: you just I feel like the intimacy thing should be
Speaker 1: at least ideally speaking to people who just can't take
Speaker 1: their hands off each other. Right, Um, And I don't
Speaker 1: I don't see it being necessarily an issue, but but
Speaker 1: it is for some people. Yeah, yeah, it's not Lucky Socks. Now,
Speaker 1: it's passion. It's passion driven, it's passion. I think it's passion.
Speaker 1: I think it has to be. I think you're absolutely.
Speaker 1: I think it has to be because it's not. There's
Speaker 1: there's not a formula. It's not a Lucky Socks. It's
Speaker 1: not a I'm gonna do this move, I'm do that
Speaker 1: move and then this is gonna I think it really
Speaker 1: has to do with what you said, Gavin, the connection
Speaker 1: between the two and and while it's happening, it's just
Speaker 1: that that build up, you know, between the two of them.
Speaker 1: And so I don't think there's like there's a certain
Speaker 1: formula that you can follow that's like, all right, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm because otherwise, why wouldn't it just happen?
Speaker 1: Wh wouldn't we just do it all the time? Hm?
Speaker 1: If it was that easy, if it was the Lucky Socks,
Speaker 1: it was the I'm gonna do this move where I'm
Speaker 1: gonna line up, then I think it would be. So
Speaker 1: I really think it matters. Like Gavin said that the
Speaker 1: chemistry between the two people, is it because is it
Speaker 1: because the people you you have conversations with, they've been
Speaker 1: with lovers who that that was sort of something that
Speaker 1: was part of the relationship, and of course they move
Speaker 1: on from that, and then it's the sex just is
Speaker 1: no good or it's just it's good, but it's only
Speaker 1: like one time. But I think the um as women,
Speaker 1: it definitely takes us longer to reach, you know, a
Speaker 1: claimactic moment, and I know for men and actually is
Speaker 1: much shorter and so the first one and so there's
Speaker 1: definitely and I learned about this in college. But like
Speaker 1: the men, it's literally, I think within five minutes a peak,
Speaker 1: but women it takes twenty minutes to reach a climactic moment.
Speaker 1: And that's why the issues of like four play is
Speaker 1: such so important. So how can we have the men
Speaker 1: meet the women so that they just ride those waves together. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was just curious to know, you know, I got
Speaker 1: to help them as sisters out there. You got a
Speaker 1: comment on this one night. I mean, I was going
Speaker 1: to go back to sort of, but I was going
Speaker 1: back to Dmitri was saying, is like, I think it
Speaker 1: has to do with the intimacy and the connection that's
Speaker 1: going on at that time, you know. And I think,
Speaker 1: you know, there's a time during that you know, intercourse
Speaker 1: or whatever that you're trying to hold off because of
Speaker 1: that timing. UM, and that's you know, you gotta figure
Speaker 1: out ways to do that. And I think a couple
Speaker 1: a couple of UM. A little while ago, we had UM,
Speaker 1: what was it? We had the intimacy show, UM with
Speaker 1: the intimacy expert Lila, and she you know it was
Speaker 1: it was she refused, she got angry when we called
Speaker 1: it fur play. But I think a lot of that
Speaker 1: has to do with the build up to things and
Speaker 1: not rushing to necessarily the penetration and then this and
Speaker 1: this and that, And I think a lot of it
Speaker 1: has to do with how you go about it and
Speaker 1: what you do, and that the build up of the
Speaker 1: chemistry that we've been talking about. I think once you
Speaker 1: get you know, you get into that, then I think
Speaker 1: that can that can move the timelines a little bit sooner.
Speaker 1: I think once the penetration is there, I think you're
Speaker 1: a lot closer to that five minutes for the guy.
Speaker 1: But if there's some some um. Again, she didn't forgot
Speaker 1: what she wanted us to call it. Besides four play.
Speaker 1: But when there's that, then I think core play duty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think then you're moving those times in lines a
Speaker 1: little close together, and I think then you have a
Speaker 1: better shot at multiple Thank you very much. I will
Speaker 1: let my Is that a good enough answer, though? I
Speaker 1: would there be an answer. I think the answer is this.
Speaker 1: It's like you know you're together the guy. It's the
Speaker 1: guy's turn, and then the guy does core play until
Speaker 1: it's the girl's turn, and then at that point maybe
Speaker 1: they just take like get a little sprint, ser like
Speaker 1: a little drink water, and then they both come back
Speaker 1: and right, I think just that's how it would go.
Speaker 1: So during the spritzer is at the commercial break where
Speaker 1: we bring in our sponsors proteinterest, Okay, but I still
Speaker 1: feel like you're a little disappointed. I think there's a
Speaker 1: version of this, I guess because I know that I
Speaker 1: know that like passion is there, but I'm like, I
Speaker 1: just I thought there would be like because I thought
Speaker 1: there would just be a little more like well, like
Speaker 1: I can't be touched for like ten minutes and then
Speaker 1: I have to start thinking sexy thoughts or like when
Speaker 1: someone kisses my ear and puts me back in the
Speaker 1: mood or like grubs the back, or like tickles my hair,
Speaker 1: like that puts me back in like in a place.
Speaker 1: And I thought I was curious to see if there
Speaker 1: was an actual like physical thing or an emotional or
Speaker 1: a mental that got you back in the game. Interesting
Speaker 1: because you know what it is. It's just connectedness, like
Speaker 1: with your partner, and it's such a beautiful, amazing experience
Speaker 1: and we always want more of it. So asking for
Speaker 1: a friend, since you're asking for a friend, a friend
Speaker 1: would another friend I know probably who would have said, uh,
Speaker 1: just completely stay in the zone and keep going until
Speaker 1: they see how deep you are into the zone that
Speaker 1: they're enticed to be back in there with you. That
Speaker 1: would be my gift. Thank you. That's a fantastic ancer
Speaker 1: you taking an invistit about behind the microphone. That was
Speaker 1: a great question, by the way to to Fiery Ones.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Crystal, Crystal Nielsen, thank you for
Speaker 1: coming on the show. You were amazing and spicy coming
Speaker 1: back with how men Think. All right, Hey, everybody, it's
Speaker 1: Gavin DeGraw missing Brooks like right now. Unfortunately he's away.
Speaker 1: He's on a vacation climbing a mountain. I don't know why.
Speaker 1: It sounds like painful foot time. But I'm out here
Speaker 1: right now with how men think, with the boys, with Dmitri,
Speaker 1: with Rick, who's going to be swimming tomorrow in Lake Tahoe.
Speaker 1: Here we are surrounded by beautiful women from the Bachelor.
Speaker 1: Got a few of the ladies right here, and they
Speaker 1: have questions for us to be continued. And our next
Speaker 1: victim is Kaylin Miller, recently moved to southern California dating
Speaker 1: somebody right now, but she wants to know how men think.
Speaker 1: So what do you got for us? Um? Okay, So
Speaker 1: I want to know why you guys date women that
Speaker 1: look like your mom? What we do? I don't think that.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize we did. Let me check. Wait a second,
Speaker 1: let me see a picture of the guy you're dating.
Speaker 1: Experience No, no, no, no no. But many men like
Speaker 1: if you look at marriages, their wives look very similar
Speaker 1: to their mother's look or look, or have personality similar qualities. Well,
Speaker 1: there's a Freudian reason for that. But I but I
Speaker 1: disagree with some of that because I don't think I've
Speaker 1: ever dated woman that looked like my mom. No, I
Speaker 1: mean either, Yeah, I don't think I have either. In fact,
Speaker 1: I would know if I had my mom's my mom's
Speaker 1: blonde and all I if I can go back, I
Speaker 1: have dated Brunette's the whole entire time. I look more
Speaker 1: like my mom. So if I dated someone looked like
Speaker 1: my mom, it would be like I was dating my
Speaker 1: mom and I was my mom. But that happens to
Speaker 1: That happens to like sometimes we look like our significant others.
Speaker 1: Is it that? Or do you try and look like
Speaker 1: the guy's mom because you want him to that's feel
Speaker 1: comfortable with you. You want him to walk in with
Speaker 1: the same dress on that honey? Are they are those
Speaker 1: your cut off jean shorts? Wait? Have you have you
Speaker 1: had this personal experience where somebody introduced you to their
Speaker 1: mom and you're like, mom, I mean, this didn't come
Speaker 1: out of nowhere, So no, I've observed it. It's never
Speaker 1: I don't think it's ever happened to me specifically, but
Speaker 1: I've observed it with many people. Are you sure you
Speaker 1: just weren't looking at guys who are standing next to
Speaker 1: their sisters with their mom right there. And and it's
Speaker 1: a little bit off topic, but I see people that
Speaker 1: look like their dogs. Dogs look like that, Rick, Do
Speaker 1: I look like you're giving me a bunch of crap
Speaker 1: for my speedo, but look like my dog Rick. No,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know yet, give me a little
Speaker 1: more time. Maybe you'll have to see us next to
Speaker 1: each other. But it's like you look like your significant
Speaker 1: other or you look like your significant other's mom, right
Speaker 1: correct or sometimes reverse? So like I'll date someone who
Speaker 1: looks like my dad. I never have, but that happens
Speaker 1: with that's more common than the mom thing. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: mom thing. Are you really looking like them? Or are
Speaker 1: you going to Bloomingdale's and getting makeovers next to them
Speaker 1: with them by the same makeup artists and think, oh
Speaker 1: my god, we look so much like That's what it
Speaker 1: is that could be it. I have a feeling that
Speaker 1: the women date men that look like their dad's I
Speaker 1: think that's more common. That's I'm sure that's got to
Speaker 1: be more common. But I'm the only one that I'm
Speaker 1: but date men that look like they're dad. If the
Speaker 1: thing is that they marry their father's personality personality wise
Speaker 1: though more so, No, because I gotta be honest this whole.
Speaker 1: Because if it's the body thing, that's great because I
Speaker 1: don't have to exercise. Then like, who, I look like
Speaker 1: you're dead, right, I'm gonna make come on, Billy, you
Speaker 1: look like you're am I there yet all I'm doing
Speaker 1: this for you. Oh, this is the whole. This is weird.
Speaker 1: I think question, but I think it's weird. It's weird.
Speaker 1: But you guys have never experienced that, Like you've never
Speaker 1: seen it. The other thing I have not the other thing.
Speaker 1: I've seen not like that, though, Like I have, like
Speaker 1: my wife has. I feel like I have fairly small
Speaker 1: face structure, you know, like eyes, ears, knows, whatever, and
Speaker 1: she has kind of the same thing. Whereas, like I
Speaker 1: don't see very often where like there's a male or
Speaker 1: a man that has small face features or body or whatever,
Speaker 1: and he's got a wife that's got just like a
Speaker 1: huge noggin, you know, just a massive head, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't see that. I see them normally going towards
Speaker 1: people that have like physical physical things. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think a dog. I think I am turning red.
Speaker 1: He's like, have you ever noticed how vegetables sometimes look
Speaker 1: like celebrities. It's, you know, like a carrot when it's
Speaker 1: got the extra spat on it, and it looks like
Speaker 1: the guy's hair, and he's like he loves carrots. I
Speaker 1: once had a grilled cheese looked like Elvis. Is this
Speaker 1: is what we're talking about? Do you have any other
Speaker 1: questions for us? Is there one that you were afraid
Speaker 1: to ask us? I mean there's like looks scared to me. No,
Speaker 1: I'm kidding. But if you were to ask us a
Speaker 1: question that you'd be scared to ask us, what would
Speaker 1: it be? I mean there's like a lot of questions.
Speaker 1: Why do you guys take so long in the bathroom? Why?
Speaker 1: Why are your hands always in your pants? Which part
Speaker 1: of our pants? She doesn't mean now just because I
Speaker 1: know you guys can't see us. She doesn't mean our
Speaker 1: hands on our pants. Wow. Like I feel like the
Speaker 1: penis talked before. It's like it's a little buddy or
Speaker 1: a big buddy, or you know, it's the other side
Speaker 1: of that. It's like it's warm, like it keeps. It's
Speaker 1: just warm and it's comforting. Have you noticed that sometimes
Speaker 1: guys like them they called I think those are called kids.
Speaker 1: So good? So ask us another one? I like that?
Speaker 1: What else? What else? I don't know? Yes, you do,
Speaker 1: you're hiding something. I want to know what you got
Speaker 1: a question in there you don't want to ask in public.
Speaker 1: Tell it to me in my ear, them say it
Speaker 1: in the microphone. I'm trying to think. I mean, yesterday
Speaker 1: I had a male friend of mine tell me that
Speaker 1: I looked. He's kind of appalled when I came down
Speaker 1: with makeup on. How do y'all feel about makeup? That's
Speaker 1: a great question because something else a little bit was
Speaker 1: he referring to the fact that maybe you had two
Speaker 1: little or two lasser It was like, just different too much. Well,
Speaker 1: I think it just doesn't like makeup, period. I love
Speaker 1: this question. Okay, can you ask I'm just kidding. No,
Speaker 1: I actually like this because I actually find that I
Speaker 1: tend to like I tend to prefer no makeup or
Speaker 1: less makeup on on a woman. Um, just because I well,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like this. See, the lighting in the
Speaker 1: bathroom is different than the lighting once you step outside,
Speaker 1: different than the lighting when you step into the restaurant,
Speaker 1: different than the lighting in the car. Wherever it is
Speaker 1: where you're putting the makeup on, you you're you're putting
Speaker 1: the makeup on according to the room you're in, right,
Speaker 1: So if you got a light out in there or
Speaker 1: the lights on one side of the room, Like someone
Speaker 1: will come out, and someone will come out all made up,
Speaker 1: and you'll see like they got more makeup on one
Speaker 1: side than the other side, and like that must look
Speaker 1: really good in that room, but out here it's actually
Speaker 1: doing you a disservice because I personally, I want to
Speaker 1: see fundamentally, I want to see what the person really
Speaker 1: looks like, you know, And so I think it's important
Speaker 1: for us to get an honest view of what the
Speaker 1: person looks like. For for me, you know, I like it.
Speaker 1: I tend to prefer it with with less. I tend
Speaker 1: to for less makeups. Going through your day, it's starting
Speaker 1: to drip, it gets sweaty, the clogs get the pores
Speaker 1: get clogged, and put more makeup on to cover up
Speaker 1: the stuff that's happening from the makeup. And you know,
Speaker 1: I like a natural I prefer a natural look on
Speaker 1: the skin on the face. You know who, where is
Speaker 1: the amount of makeup? My mom? Kidding, But I think
Speaker 1: it's true. I feel like if you're using it to you,
Speaker 1: you're using makeup to make yourself look prettier or or
Speaker 1: adding to your prettiness already. If you're using it to
Speaker 1: cover up something that is attractive. So like, it's okay
Speaker 1: to have a pimple, it's okay to have a scar,
Speaker 1: it's okay to have one. So let that part go,
Speaker 1: but makeup on it a little bit. But like if
Speaker 1: you if it's noticeable that you're kicking on the whole
Speaker 1: entire whatever the things called the little circular thing where
Speaker 1: the rose or what is it called it? Sure, beauty blender,
Speaker 1: how are you talking about? And I don't know whatever
Speaker 1: it is to cover seal, to seal a pimple or
Speaker 1: a scar. I know my makeup. And also what Rick saying,
Speaker 1: I totally understand what he's saying is if you have
Speaker 1: a pimple on the left side of your face, just
Speaker 1: walk sideways that day wherever you're going, everybody gets the
Speaker 1: right side of your face, you know, So, which I
Speaker 1: think is smart. And I think the other thing is
Speaker 1: you should bite back to whoever that friend or maybe
Speaker 1: that person was and be like, hey, so what's why,
Speaker 1: Like why are you giving me that attitude? Why are
Speaker 1: you why are you back down on me like that?
Speaker 1: That's not cool. I don't think that's cool. He should
Speaker 1: make you feel bad, Yeah, like, you know what you're doing.
Speaker 1: I don't think that. I think he was like, you're
Speaker 1: more beautiful without It's that's that's nice. Way. What would
Speaker 1: he think of me without it? I think he would
Speaker 1: love it. He would never say, bro, way to go
Speaker 1: not make today. You're not vin You're naturally beautiful. I
Speaker 1: feel pretty. He tries hard. I'm doing this. Guys, are
Speaker 1: really a lot of prepper working in this today. Big time.
Speaker 1: You know what I did today. I even put on
Speaker 1: deodorant before I walk into the room. Awesome, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for you were great. You look great with
Speaker 1: or without makeup. Thank you you look fabulous. Thanks, thank
Speaker 1: you for coming on another episode of How Men Think.
Speaker 1: We're coming right back after this commercial break from our sponsor. Okay,
Speaker 1: so we're coming at a commercial break. What's up, guys?
Speaker 1: This is How Men Think. I'm your host, Gavin DeGraw
Speaker 1: co hosting with my friends right here. Brooks like isn't
Speaker 1: here today, unfortunately, But we got Rick, we got Dmitri.
Speaker 1: We're missing Ryan ye Amy Sugarman in the house making
Speaker 1: plays and pulling the plug if she needs to. But anyway,
Speaker 1: we just had we just had one of the girls
Speaker 1: from the Bachelor on here Kayleen Miller, and she asked
Speaker 1: an interesting question about makeup, wearing makeup, not wearing makeup,
Speaker 1: and we all had opinions on that. All the guys
Speaker 1: here seem to think in general and natural look is appealing.
Speaker 1: I have to say, though, I forgot to touch on this.
Speaker 1: I have to touch on this and then I'm going
Speaker 1: to introduce our next gift because I saw that look
Speaker 1: at the corner of your eyebrow. I forgot to mention
Speaker 1: that we're dealing with two realities now in modern society.
Speaker 1: We're dealing with our absolute reality, real life, and we're
Speaker 1: dealing with the reality of the Internet, of our social profile. Okay,
Speaker 1: our Instagram accounts are our snapchats or whatever whatever people
Speaker 1: are using. And it tends to be that people just
Speaker 1: they know how to put their makeup on to look
Speaker 1: better on their social media accounts, and they're going about
Speaker 1: their day applying makeup, knowing that they're going to have
Speaker 1: pictures taken of them, and so their absolute public life
Speaker 1: is different from their private life in that regard. Perhaps
Speaker 1: throughout the day they wouldn't want to put on a
Speaker 1: much makeup, but they know what makes them look best
Speaker 1: in pictures and on videos, and weirdly enough, I think
Speaker 1: some people would rather look better on their social media
Speaker 1: than they would in their every day because it's more
Speaker 1: people who are going to see exactly right. So that's
Speaker 1: something that hadn't crossed my mind but before before Kaitlin left.
Speaker 1: So so I think we need to touch on this
Speaker 1: with our next amazing person in the house, who we
Speaker 1: will potentially give a hard time too, because we like
Speaker 1: to do that to our guests. Tasha Adams is here now.
Speaker 1: She just finished filming Bachelor in Paradise. How did you
Speaker 1: like that experience? By the way you did because you
Speaker 1: wanted out of there. I mean maybe they were like
Speaker 1: tears of joy and tears of like what the hell
Speaker 1: am I doing here? But yeah, it was your happiest
Speaker 1: moment on the show. Oh you'll just have to wait
Speaker 1: and see. Oh yeah, was it when you found out
Speaker 1: you're gonna be coming? It was found you're going to
Speaker 1: be coming on our show. We're like, oh god, this morning, Yes,
Speaker 1: did you reapply the makeup after you? You know what?
Speaker 1: I went into the bathroom and I checked my makeup. Yes,
Speaker 1: I was like, did I wear too much? It looks great?
Speaker 1: Thank you? Thanks, you look wonderful. Thank you as always.
Speaker 1: Now do you have an important question for the boys today? Well? Yes,
Speaker 1: since you guys were talking about beauty, I want to
Speaker 1: know what guys think about girls with like filler, botox,
Speaker 1: slip injections. Do you guys notice? Definitely definitely noticed, We
Speaker 1: totally noticed. And I actually do you guys want me
Speaker 1: to take the lead on this, because no, you're not allowed. Rick,
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. There is a cue, Darnet, get in
Speaker 1: there man first kind of like yeah, first guy that like,
Speaker 1: thanks Dmitri. No, I was just gonna say, I think
Speaker 1: botox from my perspective, I don't mind it. I think
Speaker 1: it's okay, Like, yeah, it kind of. I mean I
Speaker 1: look at that as sort of like a man or
Speaker 1: somebody working out, like you're trying to lose weight or
Speaker 1: you're trying to maintenance. But how about bro talks, bro talks,
Speaker 1: I've never heard of that up just now take my
Speaker 1: bro off. But I think what really bothers me are
Speaker 1: the lip injections where you look like Daffy Duck and
Speaker 1: it's like totally obvious, totally obvious, and it's like it's
Speaker 1: just to me, it's kind of goes it's not natural looking,
Speaker 1: um like like a makeup or whatever, and so it's
Speaker 1: just to me it's kind of a turn off. And
Speaker 1: I don't understand why women want that. Look are they
Speaker 1: trying that? Are they there they trying to get something
Speaker 1: else out of that large lips or a sign of fertility? What? Okay,
Speaker 1: go ahead? No, Well, I think girls just I think
Speaker 1: the look of like having just full lips and I
Speaker 1: don't know, you just feel I don't know, but they
Speaker 1: know that they look like daffy duck and not like
Speaker 1: having a nice, beautiful like At that point, it's kind
Speaker 1: of like you don't know, Yeah, what do we what
Speaker 1: do we do? But just keep going. Yeah, that's the
Speaker 1: problem once you start to the problem I think with
Speaker 1: botox and stuff like that is people do it. Maybe
Speaker 1: they're a little maybe they want a little something fixed
Speaker 1: or fluffed out or whatever. But then it's like, once
Speaker 1: you do that, are you gonna keep doing? And then
Speaker 1: it's a slippery slope. Then they it just keeps going
Speaker 1: and going, and then it gets out. You've seen older
Speaker 1: people at some point where they don't you can't tell
Speaker 1: what they used to look like because they are just
Speaker 1: so there's so many injections and they keep it up
Speaker 1: and it's like, now I don't even know what we're
Speaker 1: doing ay more. Now the face is smooth and well.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing is I feel like, if it's
Speaker 1: a maintenance thing, that's okay. But yeah, like on your eye,
Speaker 1: you know, on the side of your eyes where you
Speaker 1: have the I think they're spider or whatever, crow's feet,
Speaker 1: thank you. Um, you know. I think that type of
Speaker 1: maintenance is okay. But I feel like if you get
Speaker 1: to an extent where you're actually trying, maybe they're not
Speaker 1: trying to but changing the look of themselves, like be happy,
Speaker 1: be comfortable, be confident with how your lips or how
Speaker 1: you are. You know, like if you're at a bar
Speaker 1: and like you see a girl and you can completely
Speaker 1: tell she has like a lot of filler and whatnot,
Speaker 1: does that like turn you off to the point where
Speaker 1: you're not going to hit on her? Yeah? I don't
Speaker 1: love it. Yeah, Yeah, I don't like really, I don't
Speaker 1: like it. It's it's she's uh, it's like you're trying
Speaker 1: too hard. Like I would probably if she was attractive
Speaker 1: in my eyes, I would and didn't have that. I
Speaker 1: would have more likelihood to go and try to pick
Speaker 1: up on her at that point in time. But if
Speaker 1: she shows up with after the duck lips, then I
Speaker 1: don't know. That's not I don't like that. It's not hot. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: I have an opinion on this is it is maintenance
Speaker 1: for a lot of people, right, it's maintenance. Some people, though,
Speaker 1: get better or worse work done, so they don't necessarily
Speaker 1: have that many options just for is where they're going,
Speaker 1: who's doing it, how often they can do it. They
Speaker 1: may overdo it thinking well, it'll last longer if I,
Speaker 1: you know, get this done right now. So but I
Speaker 1: do agree with you personally, Like I said, I like
Speaker 1: a more natural look, right, less less makeup. Um, So yeah,
Speaker 1: you're not looking for that weird that weird version of
Speaker 1: having having maintenance done, right. I think that's really what
Speaker 1: you're saying to write. Okay, changing your look is not
Speaker 1: right becoming a new person, I need a new place
Speaker 1: that by the way, that translates, that means you probably
Speaker 1: have an insecure personality. You're not happy with who you are,
Speaker 1: and that's a difficult thing for a guy to see
Speaker 1: and want to go up to and be like, oh,
Speaker 1: this person isn't happy and they want their doing physical
Speaker 1: things to change themselves. And it's like, so now that
Speaker 1: that's a tough thing to to Like Rick had to
Speaker 1: walk across the bar and be like, oh, hey, you know,
Speaker 1: like getting attention but also like needing attention in a
Speaker 1: way in some ways if it's over the top, right,
Speaker 1: But but can I apply that to something else? Can
Speaker 1: I ask you a question? Can I you can't apply
Speaker 1: to something else? Yes? Can I? Is there a correlation
Speaker 1: between having too much work done as far as aesthetic,
Speaker 1: lip injections, filler, etcetera, and also having like a ton
Speaker 1: of tattoos, like when someone's got the neck tattoo and
Speaker 1: tattoottoos and it's all over them. Yeah? Is that? Would that?
Speaker 1: Would that fall into the same category of somebody who's
Speaker 1: trying to essentially reinvent themselves. I mean, I feel like
Speaker 1: girls getting worked into their faces more so about insecurity,
Speaker 1: like how you're talking about bothers them, so they want
Speaker 1: to improve that. I can't see you get it in
Speaker 1: red tattoo because you're insecure about your neck, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? But it would it? Would it be?
Speaker 1: But could it be an exercise of I want people
Speaker 1: to look at me. I want him to see I'm hardcore.
Speaker 1: I want him to see a version of it. So
Speaker 1: guys get the tattoos a lot of times, right, I
Speaker 1: have not a tattoo on my body. Yeah, personally I'm not.
Speaker 1: I just think real scars are free. So you know,
Speaker 1: I just have a different personality, a different perspective on
Speaker 1: those things. I'm not anti tattoo, but I noticed a
Speaker 1: lot of people they get these tattoos put on. They
Speaker 1: look almost to look scary, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I don't understand the appeal of looking like you're gonna
Speaker 1: cut somebody up. Um, you know what I mean. Like
Speaker 1: some of it's just so crazy, you know, And to me,
Speaker 1: I I think they're I almost see a little bit
Speaker 1: of a correlation in that, that reinvention of self, of
Speaker 1: the whole body covered in Tat's the same way people
Speaker 1: are getting this worked under their body, that worked under
Speaker 1: their body, this worked under their face, that worked under
Speaker 1: their face. What about boobs versus I have them? I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm so proud yet them like puppies. I mean again,
Speaker 1: if but I mean if you guys, if it's not
Speaker 1: done in moderation, like I don't. Yeah, if if it's
Speaker 1: something walking like crying, I look at those things, like
Speaker 1: if it's the thing that everybody notices when they walk
Speaker 1: in a room, then yeah, like for what, like why
Speaker 1: do you have to? Why do you have to? It's
Speaker 1: it's too much. I think it can be too much.
Speaker 1: I think it goes along the same lines. If it's
Speaker 1: something that makes you feel good. Great, when they're the
Speaker 1: ridiculous ones and they're you know, and you can't even
Speaker 1: keep them contained in a shirt or in a bathing suit,
Speaker 1: then it's like that. But but but then again, I
Speaker 1: have to see these this from all sides. Okay, we
Speaker 1: have when they were that big, you can so good.
Speaker 1: But I do think they're okay, Devil's at pikten. Me
Speaker 1: has to see this from all sides. So it's a
Speaker 1: competitive world, right, We're all out here in this world.
Speaker 1: It is a competitive world. We're all building careers. We
Speaker 1: have careers. We're looking for, you know, other other ways
Speaker 1: to to to evolve, right, other ways to to to
Speaker 1: win as often as we can. Right, So people need
Speaker 1: in general, everybody is looking for a way to weaponize themselves,
Speaker 1: have the best advantage, the biggest advantage. Some people may
Speaker 1: deem that advantage aesthetically, right, the advantage is aesthetic. It
Speaker 1: could be hit in the gym, it could be getting
Speaker 1: work done, it could be getting tattoos, whatever circle they
Speaker 1: see that as being most beneficial for their victory. I
Speaker 1: see it as as them kind of taking their best
Speaker 1: stab at that thing. Right. In some poor countries, the
Speaker 1: whole family will pull their money just to have plastic
Speaker 1: surgery done for the girls, hoping they'll marry up. You see,
Speaker 1: they're trying to they're trying to to get their children
Speaker 1: in a position to marry up, right, So they're trying
Speaker 1: to create a version of that person that gains attention immediately. Right.
Speaker 1: So so I'm not saying it's good or bad. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying that I do understand some of the reasoning
Speaker 1: for it, and just Devil's advocate here, there are reasons
Speaker 1: for it that people have. But yes, and that's what
Speaker 1: I was saying. But that's why I was saying. But
Speaker 1: you don't win the race by having the biggest boobs,
Speaker 1: certainly not if you're swimming. So I agree with what
Speaker 1: you're saying, and I think that was my That's what
Speaker 1: I was saying is that. Yes, if that's something that
Speaker 1: you want to do or that, that's great. But when
Speaker 1: it's it's the moderation thing. It's the same thing with
Speaker 1: the botox and the lips and the thing. Yeah, do
Speaker 1: it if that's what you want to do, do it.
Speaker 1: But when you overdo it, yes, guy's notice and from
Speaker 1: from my opinion, and I think that's what you guys
Speaker 1: said to then it does become a bit of a
Speaker 1: turn off. And I feel like tattoos or is more
Speaker 1: of an art. That's that you're you're doing something your body,
Speaker 1: probably to increase your self esteem, but also as an art,
Speaker 1: you know. And people are very arty arts and they
Speaker 1: like that, and I could give you a tattoo, would
Speaker 1: not like very arts. I've seen something. Have you seen
Speaker 1: me draw? But yeah, I don't compare that to like
Speaker 1: the botox or already of that other But I don't
Speaker 1: look at that as like an art per se. That's
Speaker 1: more of like you're trying to change your physical self
Speaker 1: to keep going. And I'm not opposed to to fake breast,
Speaker 1: you know. I you're like kind of to Dmitri's point
Speaker 1: is it's like in moderation, you know, like, um, I
Speaker 1: like that because if that makes that individual feel good
Speaker 1: about themselves, that's totally fine. That's totally fine, you know.
Speaker 1: And whether it's you know, triple D s great, if
Speaker 1: you feel good about that, go for it, like that's awesome. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but like some people are like born with that. There's
Speaker 1: not a flash D by the way, just saying yes,
Speaker 1: that's awkward, you know, like yeah, no, what I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be like flaunting, but I'm just like,
Speaker 1: it's my body. So like what dom I do? No? What?
Speaker 1: First of all, we're what we're saying is we're advocates
Speaker 1: of of if people are getting work done. We understand
Speaker 1: some people want to get work done. Yeah, we also
Speaker 1: still want to know the person that's in there. We
Speaker 1: don't want that person to disappear for the sake of
Speaker 1: their augmentations. Right. So so I think that's fun manally
Speaker 1: where we're at opinion opinion wise, And if you're naturally
Speaker 1: born with certain features that are that are that are
Speaker 1: part of your body, right and interestingly, if that is
Speaker 1: your case, then it's something you should be proud of
Speaker 1: because there are women paying a lot of money to
Speaker 1: try to get to where you are, and that's okay
Speaker 1: to celebrate that. You understand. Yeah, no, I understand, true,
Speaker 1: But I also feel like if you play on the
Speaker 1: other side of it, say you aren't comfortable with what
Speaker 1: you have and you want to get a reduction, and
Speaker 1: and you feel better about that afterwards, Like I've seen
Speaker 1: I have friends that have done both increase and decrease
Speaker 1: and it's changed their lives, like and they feel so
Speaker 1: good about themselves. They would a woman would have never
Speaker 1: have gotten into like a bathing suit or worn a
Speaker 1: dress that she wanted to you know for a second
Speaker 1: and um, and I and once she did that, it
Speaker 1: totally changed you. Guys can ask Anna lies about she
Speaker 1: got a reduction. So I had a breast production when
Speaker 1: I was seventeen years old, and it's actually a thing
Speaker 1: that I'm quite self conscious about, especially when I'm dating
Speaker 1: somebody new and when they see my breast for the
Speaker 1: first time. It's definitely I guess I would have a
Speaker 1: question about Um. I mean, you can ask me whatever,
Speaker 1: but UM, I always feel like I need to announce it,
Speaker 1: like and I know that's probably it probably makes me
Speaker 1: seem like I'm more insecure about it, where I'm totally fine,
Speaker 1: but it's like, I feel like I have to explain
Speaker 1: feel better now that you have done that. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be thirty five in October, and I had
Speaker 1: it down when I was seventeen, so I've lived with
Speaker 1: it my entire adult life. I'm happy that I did
Speaker 1: it because I think my attention from men was always
Speaker 1: in my head anyways. It was always because of my body,
Speaker 1: and I wanted people to like me for me and
Speaker 1: not because of my you know, my body, And so
Speaker 1: I'm very happy that I did it. But I there's
Speaker 1: always a bit of an insecurity. Once I'm like dating
Speaker 1: somebody for a while, I forget about that, but the
Speaker 1: initial thing is always just like I have to explain myself.
Speaker 1: Why do feel that you need to explain it? Like,
Speaker 1: and just because my scars and I and I've had
Speaker 1: I think some insensitive reactions, and so I get insecure about, um,
Speaker 1: how men might react to it because they're not in
Speaker 1: my mind, they're not a perfect breath, like, they're not
Speaker 1: the picture of what I would like them to be
Speaker 1: because I have scars. But at the same time I
Speaker 1: realized that men are men, and if they probably could
Speaker 1: care less, I think the right man won't have you know,
Speaker 1: like I think you're nervous about that guy having problems
Speaker 1: or you having to explain it before, right, and so
Speaker 1: I think the right man won't have problems with that,
Speaker 1: you know, like you know, like if you get to
Speaker 1: that point, you're not always with the right man. No,
Speaker 1: but if you're trying to but that, but that's part
Speaker 1: of your screening process there is like if you're if
Speaker 1: you're out trying to find the guy that wants the
Speaker 1: airbrushed perfect look, then that's the guy you're gonna get.
Speaker 1: And if you're and if you're looking for a genuine
Speaker 1: guy who isn't going to care about that, then you're
Speaker 1: going to find that guy but you and that will
Speaker 1: probably take off the pressure of feeling like I have
Speaker 1: to explain this, like I mean, yeah, every time before
Speaker 1: we have sex or what you know, it's like you'll
Speaker 1: know that probably or something. I'm like, by the way,
Speaker 1: like I have scars because I had a breast production.
Speaker 1: Like I feel like I only because I've had guys
Speaker 1: go why are your boobs bruised? Or like stupid things
Speaker 1: like that where I'm like, uh, yeah, exactly. I mean
Speaker 1: that's where it's like my longer relationships. Yes, of course
Speaker 1: I'm like fully, I'm a very naked person in my
Speaker 1: own life. So if if I'm with somebody that I'm
Speaker 1: comfortable with, like, I have no problem with them seeing it.
Speaker 1: But that initial part of me is always I get
Speaker 1: insecure about it. So here's another question. So you had
Speaker 1: this done at seventeen years old, right, and immediately upon
Speaker 1: having it done, where you where you freaked out from
Speaker 1: from the surgery? Was it free king about or was
Speaker 1: it all sort of bliss that you had removed this
Speaker 1: weight from your body, that you were sort of decent
Speaker 1: in your opinions, sort of de sexualizing your your physique
Speaker 1: right socially? Was was there was there a sort of
Speaker 1: a honeymoon phase of that or how long did that
Speaker 1: phase last for you? Well? I went to college and
Speaker 1: I put on a lot of weight and I went
Speaker 1: right back to my boobs. So the honeymoon phase was short.
Speaker 1: But I did love it, and I'm very happy that
Speaker 1: I did it. I have no regrets about doing it. Um,
Speaker 1: I did feel like other than your self conscious now
Speaker 1: when you when you become intimate with someone for the
Speaker 1: first time exactly, Um, I did feel like when I
Speaker 1: would get to know people, they got to know me
Speaker 1: a lot more than just being like this is like
Speaker 1: the blonde girl with the big boobs. That's what I
Speaker 1: always was. So there was more to me all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, and I was like, oh, I like this,
Speaker 1: and people got to know me. I understand. Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 1: It's it's amazing to me how how I think. I
Speaker 1: guess I don't feel it. I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: as a guy, I don't feel it, or because like
Speaker 1: I'm a guy who doesn't exercise, I don't feel it.
Speaker 1: So you know. Um, So it's amazing to me that
Speaker 1: that as a female, you felt so in a in essence,
Speaker 1: so over sexualized socially, Like in fifth grade, I was
Speaker 1: already like a sea cup. So that was all I
Speaker 1: knew was being that girl who was sexualized always, and
Speaker 1: I was always Yeah, I always was like a tease
Speaker 1: or the slut or the girl who was stuck up
Speaker 1: because I was pretty. And I was like, there's so
Speaker 1: much more to me that people are putting me in
Speaker 1: a box because they are not taking the time to
Speaker 1: actually get to know me. Meanwhile, the girls who were
Speaker 1: teasing you at that time have all had boob jobs
Speaker 1: done since go go wrap your head around that one.
Speaker 1: So the thing is, let's be real, the thing that
Speaker 1: made you uncomfortable, you fixed to not feel uncomfortable about it,
Speaker 1: but in turn, you're still you're still worried about it.
Speaker 1: Now you're worried about it in a different version exactly,
Speaker 1: and so you're insecure about it. And I think what
Speaker 1: we're what we're saying here is I think you just
Speaker 1: gotta forget about that. Find find the person that's not good,
Speaker 1: like you don't have to explain that to you know what,
Speaker 1: you know what I really love though I'm sorry and
Speaker 1: I cut you off, but I feel like um with
Speaker 1: social media, with the platform of being on the Bachelor,
Speaker 1: one thing that is so freeing is being able to
Speaker 1: like talk about things like this. I feel like now
Speaker 1: that it's in the public, I've done like post about
Speaker 1: my breast production. I've had so many people reach out
Speaker 1: to me and and really relate, and it's made me
Speaker 1: feel less self conscious about it because i know that
Speaker 1: I'm not alone and I'm very open about it now.
Speaker 1: I talked the same way about having my biceps shrunking
Speaker 1: and my chest muscles, my giant last because I was
Speaker 1: so hunky every time I would walk into a room
Speaker 1: and I would hear girls themselves like they're in Baptist church.
Speaker 1: You know, I think, you know, I've got to get
Speaker 1: this working on because I'm getting a little bit too
Speaker 1: much attention, you know, plus with the dog Lady Killer,
Speaker 1: so I had to get this everything kind of miniaturized. Um.
Speaker 1: And when when Rick jumps right now, when Rick jumps
Speaker 1: in the lake tomorrow, he's going to have a testical production.
Speaker 1: Those things are gonna shrink up right in front of
Speaker 1: all of us. By the way, speaking of can we
Speaker 1: get what I don't know what time it doesn't how
Speaker 1: can we get to how men think tattoo on your
Speaker 1: back for when you're swimming tomorrow? Yes, so we turn
Speaker 1: that around and just put it right on the shoulder,
Speaker 1: on the side, right here. Perfect. I like that. That's
Speaker 1: a good idea. I love it. You know what, you
Speaker 1: can see all of your greatness. So first of all,
Speaker 1: I have to thank you for coming on onto the
Speaker 1: show and and talking about any any types of insecurities,
Speaker 1: any types of concerns, particularly dealing with the opposite sex.
Speaker 1: I think that this is this is part of the
Speaker 1: the sort of like these conversations that never really happened
Speaker 1: often enough socially because we've all sort of segregated ourselves
Speaker 1: in the gender way, you know, the girls talk about
Speaker 1: the girls stuff, the boys talk about the boys stuff.
Speaker 1: We don't have enough of these sort of round table
Speaker 1: combos where we're kind of bouncing these ideas back and
Speaker 1: forth and revealing to each other that we're just as
Speaker 1: insecure as you are about about certain things, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, and and and but also the fact
Speaker 1: that there are things you can do about your insecurities,
Speaker 1: you know. And in the beautiful age of modern science,
Speaker 1: if something's bothering us, we could be like I could
Speaker 1: probably get this work done right now, Like right now,
Speaker 1: there's a place I'm going to do a go to
Speaker 1: a walking clinic to fix my nose, you know, and
Speaker 1: it's a bad one, but it'll be some version of fixed.
Speaker 1: Or my teeth my crooked teeth, you know, get these
Speaker 1: things whitened. Uh But anyway, Oh, by the way, you know,
Speaker 1: I've read this incredible story and I think it was
Speaker 1: in Japan. It said, um that there were dentists who
Speaker 1: or dentist orthodontists who are actually uh doing dental dental
Speaker 1: work to create more crooked teeth rather than more perfect teeth,
Speaker 1: because people were tired of looking like everybody else, you see.
Speaker 1: So I think that there's there is almost no there's
Speaker 1: no end to the amount of things we can be
Speaker 1: self conscious about. And I think that kind of is
Speaker 1: a social lesson, which is everybody has issues. Some people
Speaker 1: have issues of actually looking too perfect, and some people
Speaker 1: have issues of not looking perfect enough. And I think this,
Speaker 1: this is a fundamental social issue, would exists in every
Speaker 1: single culture. You know, if there's another planet somewhere, it's
Speaker 1: happening there too. Yeah, he lasered those things off, you know,
Speaker 1: and they'll grow him back. Well. Anyway, this has been
Speaker 1: a great Thank you Tasia as well for coming on
Speaker 1: the show. Tasha Adams, Crystal Nielsen, Kaylyn Miller, Analyst Puccini,
Speaker 1: Ashley Connetti, Connettie Believe. Anyway, it's been awesome having you
Speaker 1: guys on How men think. I'm gavin to graw and
Speaker 1: we'll see you next time with Dmitri, with Rick, not
Speaker 1: with Brian, not with Brooks, with Amy pulling the plug
Speaker 1: on me when I say dumb it. See you later, Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: It's Brooks and one last thing before we let you go.
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