1 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: And Happy Saturday afternoon to you and yours alongside Andrew 2 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: Gribble on Jason Gibbs, this is the best podcast available. 3 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 1: We have a fifty three man roster. It is a 4 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: fluid fifty three man roster, but Gribbs, we do have 5 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: indeed a fifty three man roster after fourteen on field 6 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: practices getting us ready for one week from tomorrow in Baltimore, 7 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: a fifty three man roster. And Andrew Berry and company 8 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: along with Kevin Stefanski, in sync with Kevin Stefanski, have 9 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: come to a fifty three man roster consensus. We have 10 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: a football team. It is time to play football. Yeah, 11 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: and it's exciting. And I think when you know, going 12 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: through these names and and kind of just breaking it 13 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: down position by position, it's, you know, we do a 14 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: lot of talking about kind of who's in, who's out 15 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: and everything like that, but when you look at it 16 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: just from afar, not not too many surprises. I would 17 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 1: say that this I wouldn't say chalk going with that, 18 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: but it's it's, you know, not a lot of headlines 19 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: made out of out of this cut down to fifty 20 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: three and I think if you've shown us this maybe 21 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: a month ago. The surprises would be the guys who 22 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: weren't on the team on the team a month ago. 23 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: Outside of that, you know, it's it's pretty much what 24 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: we anticipated going into kind of this weird training camp. 25 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: Fifty three players, thirty three returning. The remaining twenty came 26 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: to us via the following ways. Eleven through free agency, 27 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: six through the draft, to via trade, and one via waivers. 28 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: No undrafted rookies making it, and we said it would 29 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: be a long shot. It was gonna be a very 30 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: challenging year for undrafted rookies to make the squad, and 31 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 1: on the initial fifty three there are none. Yeah, and 32 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: I would expect, I mean, we'll get the news on 33 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: Sunday about the practice squad. I mean I imagine that 34 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: some of those guys will will land spots there and 35 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: uh find a way to develop and potentially be groomed 36 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: into uh players that that have roles on this team 37 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: moving forward. And again you can protect for those practice 38 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: squad players as well, so uh some some players that 39 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: you can maybe lock onto and really developed behind the scenes. 40 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: But it was a tall order for these guys. I mean, 41 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 1: it was just it's it's it's a tall order in 42 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: normal times. This was incredibly difficult, especially that I think 43 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: they were the biggest victims of no preseason games, because 44 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: I think that's where these guys really show out and 45 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 1: and have an ability to almost play their way onto 46 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 1: the roster. Give give, give the coaches and GM's reasons 47 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: to be like, how could you get rid of this 48 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: guy after he did that? And there's just not the 49 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: same opportunities on the practice field. I mean a guy 50 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: like say, this is an extreme example, but Kevin Davidson, 51 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's a fourth string quarterback. That's that's 52 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: incredibly tough as is, but you're limited in the amount 53 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: you can practice, the amount of reps you can get. 54 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: You gotta get the starters ready in this weird season, 55 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: you gotta get the backups ready. There just wasn't the 56 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: same opportunities. And even for some of these bigger named 57 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: undrafted free agents, like like A J. Green and at corner, 58 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: it's just a tall order. And when you look at 59 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: the hoop the corners that made it over and you're like, yeah, 60 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: makes sense. Yeah, four team practices, you're not getting a 61 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: lot of reps you're gonna do. They're gonna do what 62 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: they can the coaching staff so they can see as 63 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: much as they can. But it really became an evaluation 64 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: that Kevin Stefanski said it best after Friday's walk through, 65 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit of a practice at First Energy Stadium, 66 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: but he said it, people were being judged this year 67 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: from on the moment they walked in the door. It 68 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: wasn't just what they did on the field. They were 69 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: being judged seven from how they reacted and how they 70 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: handled all the situations that were thrown at them. So 71 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: much different type of evaluation than that's how we get 72 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: to this fifty three man roster. Yeah, you know, it's 73 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: just a total you know, the thing that stuck stood 74 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: out to me when I talked to Andrew Berry day was, 75 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: you know, despite all these different variables, different circumstances, different issues, 76 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: he said to him, it wasn't much different than normal years. 77 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: I guess they just really focused the on those fourteen 78 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: practices and evaluated truly every single rep that was taken 79 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: on the field. And you know, the tough. The tough 80 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: thing he did acknowledge though, is you know, a two 81 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 1: week injury might not hurt you in a normal training camp. 82 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: He might be out for a couple of weeks. You 83 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: can get back on the field for a couple of 84 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: preseason games. A two week injury during this time, I 85 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: mean that was it. I mean that was really tough 86 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,799 Speaker 1: to overcome. And you know, you look at a player 87 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: like Damien Ratley who missed a lot of time on 88 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: the field, but then they also had to consider other players. 89 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: Kevin Johnson missed a couple of weeks, but he really 90 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: impressed in those couple of days. M J. Stewart missed 91 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: a lot of time. He really he really impressed and 92 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: made you realize you had to keep him on this roster. So, uh, 93 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: just a lot, a lot of variables to consider, but 94 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: you always go down to what you see on tape, 95 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: and I think that's how they evaluate this. Yeah, again, 96 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: the Browns waving a large number of players, as every 97 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: team around the league is currently doing. The Browns getting 98 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: their listing two hours before the deadline, didn't have to 99 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: wait till four o'clock on a Saturday. On the offensive side, 100 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: you mentioned Damian Ratley being let go. Uh, Taywan Taylor 101 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: the wide receiver being let go, Willie Wright at guard, 102 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: Michael Dunnet guard, uh so both backup guards basically being 103 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 1: let go. Um, the biggest surprise maybe at running back 104 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: with don Trelle Hilliard, but with Kareem Hunt available for 105 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: the entire season, do you need four running backs and 106 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: last year you need you did? Uh, this year you 107 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: really only need three and a fullback and Dontrelle Hilliard 108 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: the odd man out here in England. Yeah, and I 109 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: think to spend this the other way. I mean, Derness 110 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: Johnson an incredible camp and I think that was the 111 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: big decider in that. And then and there's a couple 112 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: other things you can look at. I mean you mentioned 113 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: Cream Hunts there, Andy Janovic the fullback is around and 114 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: also the you've you've upgraded your options at on the 115 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: in the return game, which is where where Dontrell made 116 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: an impact last year. So, uh, some tough decisions and 117 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: you know, we'll we'll see in the coming days if 118 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: if he'll be back on the practice squad or not. 119 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: But experienced player that's played some good football, hits the 120 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: waivers and and maybe he maybe he gets claimed somewhere. Yeah, 121 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: I would think a guy. I mean they just brought 122 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: in Brady high Hello the other day, and uh, he 123 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: was one of the cuts and one would have to 124 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 1: think maybe he could be a candidate for a practice squad. 125 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: Can Damian Ratley be a practice squad player? Yeah, he can. 126 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: They've really loosened the roles the rules on on these 127 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: practice squads, and I think you have spots on the 128 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: roster where it doesn't matter how many seasons these players 129 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: have a So I think you're you're you're good on 130 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: that part. Derek Gilbert released along with Kevin Davidson. So 131 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: right now the Browns were just two quarterbacks. One would 132 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: think they might go after a third quarterback for that 133 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: practice squad as well. Yeah, and that's it's it'll be 134 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: interesting to see what the numbers break down with league 135 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: wide on this one, because it'll be interesting if any 136 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks get claimed, because that's that's a quick, 137 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: uh digestion of a brand new system you're gonna have 138 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: to have, and then you're you're gonna have to be 139 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: ready to go in a moment's noticed in the event 140 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: of of some some COVID situations. So I think that 141 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: you would think at least one of those guys gets 142 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: on the practice squad, and it'll it'll be interesting see 143 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: how each team does it. I already saw that. I've 144 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: already seen a couple of teams going with three Browns 145 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: right now going with two on the active Yeah, it's 146 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: a lot still to come here on this Labor Day 147 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: weekend cut down day to day. But now everybody's trying 148 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: to get their guys signed from the practice squad, including 149 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: those four keepers, and obviously get everybody in their building, 150 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: get everybody tested, get everybody into the bubble again and 151 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: back on the field and in preparation for Baltimore. On 152 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: the defensive side of the football, um, probably the biggest 153 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: cut at defensive and Chad Thomas is out, Porter Gustin 154 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: is in linebacker. Wise, Willie Harvey, a guy that was 155 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: brought in last year that struggled with some injuries, uh, 156 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: gets let go. Uh. Corner wise a J. Green, the 157 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: high profile, UH, undrafted rookie that was signed by the Browns, 158 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: let go. I know your guy, a guy that both 159 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 1: of us like, thanks to you selling me on him. 160 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: Donovan Alumba gets let go. But some of these guys 161 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 1: definitely candidates to be back with the football team prize 162 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 1: sooner rather than later. Yeah, And it's it was just 163 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: tough decisions, and I think Alumba and Green got a 164 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: lot of opportunities and they they had they got to 165 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: play a bunch because you had a ton of injuries. 166 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: But those injuries were two players that you knew were 167 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: gonna be with you. I think you go with Greedy Williams, 168 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: who was out for uh, he's been about for about 169 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: the last week and a half. Terrence Mitchell miss some time, 170 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 1: but he was playing well, and you want to keep 171 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: a veteran in there. Kevin Johnson M J. Stewart both 172 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: looked really good in the slot and that slot corner 173 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: position is necessary. And I think for for Alooma and Green, 174 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: I just wonder it's just tough because that that those 175 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: guys are good outside corners, and I think that the 176 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: opportunities were there in the slot, but that they those 177 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: guys are outside corners and that's where the Browns had 178 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: a lot of depth, and so it was gonna be 179 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: tough to crack that that that grouping of outside corners, 180 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: and it just wasn't there at this time. But again, 181 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 1: two players that were super impressive. Uh. We'll see if 182 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: either of them get claimed, and wouldn't be surprising to 183 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: see either of them on the practice squad. All right, 184 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: so let's take a look at our fifty three man 185 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: roster that was looked at. Who was like go the 186 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: bigger names that were let go um. The fifty three 187 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: man roster looks like this. We mentioned that two quarterbacks 188 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, case Keenum. You're running backs are Nick Chubb, 189 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt, Deernist Johnson, and your fullback is Andy Janovitch. 190 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: Five tight ends Gribbs uh for now. Five tight ends. Again, 191 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: it's a fifty three man roster. Things are always fluid, 192 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: but Phararell Brown, Harrison Bryant, Stephen Carlson, Austin Hooper and 193 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 1: David and Joeku all make the original fifty three man roster. 194 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: I mean, if they were going to be a team 195 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: in the league with five tight ends, it's gonna be 196 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: the Browns. I mean, I think with with what we've 197 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: seen at practice, and I think these guys all played 198 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: really well, and I think of that group, I mean, 199 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: clearly we've talked a lot about Harrison Bryant and how 200 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: good he's been. I would say the most improved to 201 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: me at least, has been Farrell Brown. I mean, he 202 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 1: just looks like he's moving better. He's caught passes. He's 203 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: not just a blocker, but clearly he is the he's 204 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: the muscle in that in that in that position group. 205 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: And I think Stephen Carlson played good football at the 206 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: end of last year. He's kept it up this year. Uh, 207 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: just a lot of options, and I just think this 208 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: team is gonna roll with two tight tight ends the 209 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: majority of the time, and then that we might see, 210 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of a lot of three tight 211 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: ends and just having your options and and and availability. 212 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: And I think this is the example of players playing 213 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 1: their way onto the fifty three, because I don't think 214 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: you went into training camp saying this team is gonna 215 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 1: have five tightens. I think that's just the way it 216 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: worked out for now. Yeah. Well, I mean and Kevin Stefanski, 217 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: I know, sat down with you earlier today when everything 218 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: was coming down, and uh, some of the stuff that 219 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: that he said, it was a true collaboration, you know, 220 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: and Andrew Berry saying, all right, coach, what kind of 221 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: offense we're running? All right, we're running a wide zone scheme. 222 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: Let's figure out the players that fit best. And Stefanski 223 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 1: said it like those five and you just mentioned it 224 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: played their way onto this fifty three man roster. Yeah, 225 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,719 Speaker 1: it's just that they were good. And I mean if 226 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: I didn't chart completions that at practice, but it wouldn't 227 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: be crazy to say that the tight ends caught them, 228 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: got the more passes maybe than than wide receivers. I mean, 229 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: these guys were just active and they were getting open 230 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 1: uh and and they were just making the plays when 231 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: they were there. You just didn't see a lot of drops, 232 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: you didn't see a lot of issues. And then I 233 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: think for those those two guys that maybe we're on 234 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: the fringe, Baroh and Steven Carlson, they took advantage when 235 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 1: the jokum his time with the wrist injury, and you're 236 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: not gonna get rid inn Joku. So it's it was 237 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 1: it was a matter of making the most of your 238 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: opportunities and finding a way to play to your strengths, 239 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: which for this team, running backs, tight ends, wide receiver, 240 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: your your chock full nine offensive lineman. Welcome to a 241 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: fifth of year football team. Basically nine offensive lineman Joe Atonio, 242 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: Jack Conklin, Uh, Chris Hubbard, Nick Harris Evan Brown, Kendall 243 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: Lamb Wyatt, Teller, J C. Treader, and Jedrick Wills all 244 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: make the squad a pretty deep offensive line room all 245 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: of a sudden here in Evil. Yeah, you've got you 246 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: don't usually see this. You've got to really traditional backup 247 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 1: tackles on this team, and so that that shoes you 248 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: up there. And the thing I like is both Evan 249 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: Brown and Nick Harris and J. C. Treader can all 250 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: play center. So you've got three guys that can snap 251 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: the ball on your active roster and then White Teller 252 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: and Matonia are your true guards. But I think Nick 253 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: Harris and Evan Brown can also play guard. So you've 254 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: got you essentially have four guards, three centers within about 255 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: a four player kind of grouping there. Yeah, and that's 256 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: why Willie Wright and Michael Dunn became expendable, and we 257 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: might see them back on the practice squad here before 258 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: it's all said and done, because they did show a 259 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: little bit last Sunday at First Energy Stadium. We've seen 260 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: a little bit from them, and I wouldn't be surprised 261 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: to see one or both of them end up on 262 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: the practice squad. Yeah. I had a feeling yesterday watching 263 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: that practice that Evan Brown had a spot when he 264 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: Batonia got the day off, So Brown was out there 265 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: with the first team offensive left guard and then he 266 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: goes out there with the second team offensive center. So 267 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: it's it was just that that that's the more you 268 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: can do. And I think he was seeing as maybe 269 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: the one of the more versatile options that the Browns 270 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: have had. And I think that that center and guard 271 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: importance came into focus because, uh, you know, Nick Harris 272 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: spent all of his time at center during this training camp. 273 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: There weren't many guard grips out there, so you needed 274 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: that that additional guard on the defensive side. Let's go 275 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: to the defensive lineman eight making the roster including a Coup, Clayborne, Elliott, Garrett, 276 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: Porter Gustin, as we mentioned already, Larry Ogan, Job, Sheldon Richardson, 277 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: Olivier Vernon. Pretty stacked defensive line room here in as 278 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: opposed to last year where the starters were the names 279 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: but the backups not so great. Yeah, it was so 280 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: you go into camp losing Andrew Billings, so you're down 281 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: one than than what you thought. But then you had 282 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: a great star, a great camp from Port Augustin, and 283 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: I think the guy that Chris Kivin couldn't talk about 284 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: enough was Leian Kou and Jordan Elliott. So you feel 285 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: good about your backups at defensive tackle. This is the 286 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: best looking we've seen in Sheldon Richardson at that spot. 287 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: And your ends right now are healthy with Myles and Olivia, 288 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: so it looks great on paper. You just gotta keep 289 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: them healthy and and and and max mats make sure 290 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: you don't have to tap into more of that death 291 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: because right now, where your depth stands, it's good. And 292 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: I think entering last season it was good. But then 293 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: once you lose that first line, then then it it 294 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: gets gets tricky. Beyond beyond your group of eight, Is 295 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: there a spot on this team somewhere, whether it's practice 296 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: squad or eventually a fifty three for Daniel Aqually? You think? 297 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: You know, I think potentially because he's again it was 298 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: a tough odd man out and that this is the 299 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: guy that had a great camp last year then got 300 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: hurt and I thought he was solid again this year. 301 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: He's he's he's proven he can play. I just think 302 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: that he had Elliott and and Akou there behind to 303 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: two starters, and it's it was just tough to to 304 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: make the math work because you went with pretty standard 305 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: amount to both linebacker and defensive back as well, So 306 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: you really just didn't have too much room there. Yeah, 307 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: I think, uh, he definitely didn't do anything to lose 308 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: the spot. He just didn't ultimately beat out any of 309 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: the other guys, namely Porter Gustin for the job. So um, 310 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: but I definitely think there's talent there and there there's 311 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: a place somewhere, hopefully for him on this football team 312 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: at the linebacker room. Six linebackers Tay Davis, B. J. Goodson, 313 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: Jacob Phillips, Malcolm Smith, Si Taki Taki, and Mack Wilson. 314 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: You've got to keep on the fifty three man roster 315 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: for right now because you've got to figure out if 316 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: if he's on Pop not Pop, what what that looks 317 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: like from an injury standpoint. Yeah, it's interesting because you've 318 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: got those a couple of new injured reserve rules as 319 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: well that where you can go on there for a 320 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: shorter amount of time, and that that might tell us 321 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: how how severe this injury is. We we clearly know 322 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: at least we think it's not anything that's gonna jeopard 323 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: as the entire season. So it's it's just a matter 324 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: of that you get more flexibility once the rosters go 325 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: down to fifty three. You couldn't put him on injured 326 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,479 Speaker 1: reserve before this. If he did, he's out of the season. 327 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: So uh that that could be among the maneuvers you 328 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: see in the coming days. We'll just have to wait 329 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: and see. The best case it would be no maneuver 330 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: at all ready to go one of these weeks without 331 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: having to lock him into anything on that roster. Uh. 332 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: And I think could be a position to watch. You know, 333 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: if Andrew Berry and company are scouring the waiver wire 334 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 1: based on cuts, is that a position of need that 335 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: they go and try to fill. Yeah, we'll see. And 336 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: it's one of those where I mean, I don't even 337 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: know if I know the starters right now for week one. 338 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 1: I think I think I have an idea. I don't 339 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: know if how it's going to break down snap wise, 340 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: it wouldn't surprise me if you see more of a 341 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: rotation than than just three guys locked in. I mean, 342 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: that's that's the one group I truly don't have too 343 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 1: much of a read on. I mean, I think a 344 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: Talkie Talkie and Goodson are gonna have big roles. I 345 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: would imagine Jacob Phillips could be among your top options 346 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: if Mac can't go, and then Ta Davis is someone 347 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: we've also seen in that spot. So well, we'll get 348 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: a better feel for this linebacker roommate days from now 349 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:15,959 Speaker 1: than I truly have right now, because I think it's 350 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: pretty open. I don't know what role Malcolm Smith is 351 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: gonna have in this group. It's just it's it's wide 352 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: open at this point. I don't know if we've seen 353 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: as too much of a resolution from a depth turn standpoint, Yeah, 354 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: I think we can agree. Jacob Phillips has started the show, 355 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: he's learning more, he seems to be picking things up, 356 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 1: but I still think he's a little ways away from 357 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: being plugged in as the starter. I could be totally 358 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: wrong one week from tomorrow when we're Multimore. Yeah, it's 359 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 1: just it's it's one of those where it could be 360 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: matchup specific as well. I meanw you how you how 361 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 1: you line up? And I mean we don't even know 362 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: is this gonna be a team that plays a lot 363 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: of three linebackers? Is it going to be a team 364 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: that plays a lot of two linebackers? And who are 365 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: those guys? So this is one of those where you 366 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 1: get that this is one where if we'd seen some 367 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: preseason games, might have a better idea, but now it's 368 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: it's anyone's guest at this point. All right, defensive backs, 369 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: between corners and safeties. Can I interest you in ten? 370 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: So between defensive backs and offensive lineman nineteen of our 371 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: fifty three guys coming from those positions. Ten guys including 372 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: Ronnie Harrison who we just acquired from Jacksonville. Kevin Johnson 373 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 1: is on that list, Karl Joseph Terrence, Mitchell, Sheldrick, RedWine, 374 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: Anderson Dajo, m J. Stewart, despite being laid up a 375 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,239 Speaker 1: little bit with that, with that leg is making the 376 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: fifty three man roster. Tavvy Or Thomas, Denzel Award Greedy 377 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 1: Williams and tavi Or Thomas looked good at the corner spot, 378 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: but he is a special team's guru, and I think 379 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 1: that's why he ends up on this roster. Yeah, and 380 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 1: I think that the big number was almost necessary, and 381 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: it wouldn't have even surprised me if they had they 382 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: gone with eleven for this gre because you've got to 383 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 1: consider that you've got some lingering injuries where you don't 384 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: know for sure if these guys are gonna be back 385 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: for week one, And then you also throw in, I mean, 386 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: you don't know how ready Ronnie Harrison is gonna be 387 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: for week one. Uh, he's still going through the testing protocols, 388 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: can't get in your building yet, So you're gonna be 389 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: rolling with a smaller number at that spot, potentially in Baltimore. 390 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: And I think that, like you mentioned, Tapier has played 391 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: well in the slot in camp, but you don't know 392 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: if you if you, if you're even gonna have him 393 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: playing as a dB in that game against Ravens. So 394 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: that again, that's one less so another position where you 395 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: had ten could have gone even higher. And we'll see 396 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 1: what happens with the practice squad, what happens with waiver claims. 397 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 1: Just to get you in position week one where you 398 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: feel comfortable you have enough guys, Yeah, I mean really, 399 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: I mean we don't. We don't know what Kevin Johnson's 400 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 1: I mean, could be a surprise and could be active 401 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: next week. I don't think so, but you never know. 402 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: We really don't know what Greedy Williams last the First 403 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 1: Energy Stadium. He was not dressed. Now, again, the first 404 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: team really didn't do much of anything other than a 405 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: glorified walk through, but no greedy Williams still and the 406 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: question is that shoulder going to be ready for Week 407 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: one in Baltimore? Yeah, and I think you feel good 408 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: with Terrence Mitchell in that role if if that's the case, 409 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: it's just I just don't know what what's going on 410 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: in the slot because that you've got your two guys 411 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: banged up and then you've got Taviier. So Tabier would 412 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: be the guy I think today based on what we've seen. 413 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: But there's still eight days and those guys can get 414 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: healthy in a hurry, I think. Well, and again I 415 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: can see the Browns maybe going after and bringing back 416 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: a J. Green, the Donovan Alumba of the world, uh Moffatt. 417 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: Maybe it's safety or Benton just as a development type role. 418 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: But I don't know if their Week one plug in plays, yeahs, 419 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: it'll be interesting. I mean, it's it's just that's the 420 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: one where maybe we'll it's some more clarity. I think 421 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: probably Wednesday, when you get your first injury report and 422 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: you see how much these guys are actually practicing, that's 423 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: gonna give you maybe the real clarity on on on 424 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,959 Speaker 1: on what's going on Week one. Your specialist or Gillen 425 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: Hewlett Cybert back to a one position on offense. I 426 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: didn't get to just because I've got about five pieces 427 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: of paper in front of me and I'm going through things. 428 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: The wide receiver room, we kept six. Kind of a 429 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: big deal. Gibbs, you might want to touch on that. 430 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham, Jr. Uh Jarvis Landry Cadarrel Hodge makes it obviously, 431 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: also a special teamer there. Richard Higgins has made the 432 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: fifty three man roster. Donovan People's Jones are sixth round 433 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: pick and Joe Joe Natsen congratulations to Joejo right now 434 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: on the fifty three man roster. Yeah, and I think 435 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: we've seen it and they've talked about it more than 436 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: just a returner in the eyes of this team, I think, 437 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: and I think he's he's played well when given the 438 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 1: opportunity of offense, and this to me indicates we'll see 439 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: I would peg him as the front runner and at 440 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: least one of the returning roles. We haven't gotten the 441 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: depth chart yet, but you know, I think he's he's 442 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: shown enough and I've heard Mike prefer talk about him 443 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: enough to think that this guy has probably got the 444 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: best shot, but you've also got some other options. With 445 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: both Deernest Johnson and Donovan People's Jones both on the roster, 446 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: I imagine. I imagine DPJ is gonna be on special 447 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: teams even if he's not returning. I imagine they're going 448 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: to find a role for him because he he's got 449 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: the body type in the athleticism that you want to 450 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: see well, and he's one of those guys, especially on 451 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: punt returns, you better know where he is on the 452 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: football field. Yeah, he's dangerous and he's electric with it. 453 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 1: Doesn't have a ton of experience returning kicks, so I 454 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,959 Speaker 1: would be more surprised to see him on kicks than 455 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: than punts, But uh, we'll see going for but Dearness 456 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: Johnson has experience of both. I think Dearness was a 457 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: little bit better on kicks last year, So we'll we'll 458 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: we'll see from that perspective of Joe Jo Nats and 459 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: that's that's all he did for the Rams. He was 460 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: really good at it, so that's why he signed him. 461 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: But I think they've got more in store for Yeah, 462 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: there are the one thing that this team has is 463 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: a lot of special teams. Experts from Tavier Thomas, Cadaryl Hodge, 464 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: Jojoe Nats and guys that are good, solid players at 465 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: their position, but they are really good at special teams. 466 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: Throwing t Davis in that one as well. I think 467 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: he's a really good special teams player. And I just 468 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: think five tight ends, those guys are all going to 469 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: play on special teams that I think that the Browns 470 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: should be better in net department. I think that's the goal. 471 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: You want to be better. That they were much improved 472 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 1: last year, but I think there's still room to be 473 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 1: much better, and I think they're they're poised to do that. 474 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: Going back to that wide receiver room, it will be 475 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: interesting to see who that number three wide receiver is 476 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: because last night again at First Energy Stadium on Friday, 477 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: Canaryl Hodge trotted out with O'Dell and Jarvis Again. Now, 478 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: most of the time you're in a you're in a 479 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: two wide receiver set, but uh, if you do go 480 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 1: to three, it will be interested and to see who 481 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: that third wide receiver. Yeah, and I think I mean 482 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: for Chard Higgins has has played that role a lot. 483 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: He's got good chemistry at Baker Mayfield, and I think 484 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,719 Speaker 1: he's definitely in line for that role. And I think 485 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: the way of the receiver room is built right now. 486 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 1: You can protect DPJ a little bit. You don't have 487 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: to force him out there, get him, uh in some 488 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: tough spots. You can develop him behind the scenes and 489 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 1: get them ready. Because I think you're pretty you're you're 490 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: pretty solid with the group ahead. And I think that 491 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: wide receiver group I think presented the toughest decisions because 492 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: you know, it wouldn't have surprised me, uh if if 493 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: either Ratley or Taywan Taylor had made this team, because 494 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 1: I thought they had Ratley when he was out there, 495 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 1: it played well, he was just hurt. And then Taywan 496 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 1: Taylor had had a pretty good camp as well. Yeah. Again, 497 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: this is the fifty three man roster on Saturday afternoon. Uh, 498 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: and we're taping around two thirty pm, three o'clock, So 499 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 1: a lot of things can happen between now and then, 500 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 1: especially as the rest of the league begins to trim 501 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 1: down their rosters and they have to have these all 502 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: trimmed down by four pm Eastern time, and then it's 503 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: picking up guys, getting guys in here, getting them screened, 504 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: getting them into the bubble and getting them working out 505 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: as soon as possible. It will be interesting as well 506 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: with sixteens practice squad spots, four of whom are essentially keepers. 507 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:21,719 Speaker 1: So um, it's going to it's going to be interesting 508 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: to see what positions, what positions to you might this 509 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: team go after and strengthen. M that's tough, I think. 510 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: I look, I'm looking mostly at the defensive side of 511 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 1: the ball. I think eat any of those position groups 512 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: on the defense, especially with Week one in mind, it 513 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me. So I'm I think offense, you're probably okay. Uh. 514 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 1: But then again, last year I didn't see the Browns 515 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: claiming a tight end like if they did with Ricky 516 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: Seals Jones, but they did. Uh. I don't think any 517 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: of the defensive groups would surprise me at this point. 518 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: I'll just say that I think that if there's a 519 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: quality pass rusher out there, that wouldn't surprise me. H. 520 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: Linebacker clearly, and defensive back just from the perspective of 521 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: you've gotta you've gotta get enough guys on the field 522 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: for Week one, like justin't depending on the injuries. So 523 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 1: I think those all three on defense would be the 524 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: guys that I wouldn't be surprised, but in surprised me 525 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,479 Speaker 1: if the number was zero. I mean, just because this 526 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: is a weird year, and we'll see. And also, you know, 527 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 1: this isn't the two thousand, seventeen eighteen Browns, not number 528 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 1: one in the claim order, so you've gotta you might 529 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: think you're getting some players, but someone might be claimed animal. Yeah, 530 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,360 Speaker 1: definitely a lot to watch here. Uh, And the Browns 531 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: will be on the practice field on Sunday, something that 532 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 1: we have not seen in recent years. Um. I don't 533 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,479 Speaker 1: remember the last time they did. But they will have 534 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: a walkthrough on Sunday and begin preparations for the Ravens. 535 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: I say begin. They've been preparing for this, but uh, 536 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,959 Speaker 1: formally with that fifty three man roster and then as 537 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: many of the practice squad guys as they can get 538 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: back in their building. Uh. They will have that done 539 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: and we will be on the field tomorrow and then Monday. 540 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 1: You're officially, I would say tomorrow, you're officially into game week, 541 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 1: one week out from the game with the Ravens to 542 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: kick off the season final Thoughts anything else on this 543 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: fifty three man roster groups. I guess I'm just intrigued 544 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,719 Speaker 1: by tomorrow. I think that's the one where practice squads 545 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: mean a lot this year, and I think that they're 546 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: they mean a lot not only because there can be 547 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 1: big but also you have access to elevate a couple 548 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: of those guys on game days that you didn't have before. 549 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: There's a lot of new rules that make this practice 550 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: squad very important and it will just be interest see 551 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: what went into some of the thinking. And I don't 552 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: The thing I don't know is our team is gonna 553 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,239 Speaker 1: publicly disclose who they're protected guys? Are I think they 554 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: have to? Uh, So we'll we'll see if that's disclosed 555 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: or not. Can you change it week by week? Like 556 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: those are Those are the things I truly don't know 557 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: because it's the first time for us. But uh, this 558 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: comes into focus a lot more this year than any other. Indeed, 559 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot to take in, a lot 560 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: to watch and see what happens. We will continue to 561 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: be back with you throughout the week and throughout the season. 562 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: The b p A not going anywhere. Uh uh. We 563 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: gotta figure a few things out, but we'll keep it 564 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: going throughout the season. 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