1 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: As it recognized as mister Adams of Massachusetts. 2 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 2: Objects of the most stupendous magnitude, measures which will affect 3 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 2: the lives of millions born and unborn. 4 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 3: Are now before us. 5 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 2: We must expect a great expense of blood to obtain them. 6 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 2: But we must always remember that a free constitution of 7 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: civil government cannot be purchased at too dear a rate, 8 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: as there is nothing on this side of Jerusalem of 9 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: greater importance to mankind. My worthy colleague from Pennsylvania, spoken 10 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 2: with great ingenuity and eloquence, he has given you a 11 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 2: grim prognostication a national future. But where he foresees apocalypse, 12 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 2: I see hope. I see a new nation ready to 13 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: take its place in the world. Not an empire, but 14 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 2: a republic, and a republic. 15 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 3: Of the laws. 16 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: Not men, gentlemen, we are in the very midst of revolution, 17 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: the most complete, unexpected, and remarkable of any in the 18 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: history of the world. How few of the human race 19 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 2: have ever had an opportunity of choosing a system of 20 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 2: government for themselves and the children. I am not without apprehensions, gentlemen, 21 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: But the end we have in sight is more than 22 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 2: worth all the means. I believe sirs, that the hour 23 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 2: has come. My judgment approves this measure, and my whole 24 00:02:54,840 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 2: heart is in it all that I have, all that 25 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: I am, and all that I hope in this life. 26 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: I am now ready to stake upon it while I live. 27 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 3: Let me have a country, a free country. Let me care. 28 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 2: Now, this is something altogether unexpected, not only a declaration 29 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 2: of our independence, but. 30 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 3: Of the rights of all men. 31 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 2: Now this is this is this is well said, sir, 32 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 2: very very well said. The Christian King of Great Britain 33 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 2: has waged cruel war against human nature itself. 34 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,239 Speaker 3: In the persons of a distant people who never. 35 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 2: Offended him, captivating and carrying them into slavery in another hemisphere. 36 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 4: Yes, you lay the evils of slavery at the feet 37 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 4: of the king, but you say nothing of slavery itself, Sir, 38 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 4: not Surely, if the trade is outlawed but ownership is not, 39 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 4: then those unfortunate negroes still in servity will become a 40 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 4: more lucrative commodity. 41 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 3: Well, that's not what I intended, doctor Franklin. 42 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 4: Slavery is an abomination and must be loudly proclaimed as such. 43 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 4: That I own that neither I nor any man has 44 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 4: any immediate. 45 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 3: Solution to the problem. But it does no matter. 46 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 4: The issue before us is independence and not emancipation, Doctor Franklin. 47 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: As document is I think something our friends in the 48 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: Congress will debate, but I would be very surprised if 49 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: they will countenance an attack on slavery. 50 00:05:59,640 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 2: No. 51 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. 52 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 4: We hold these truths to be sacred and undeniable, that 53 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 4: all men are created equal, et cetera. 54 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Sacred and undeniable smacks of the pulpit. 55 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 2: Does it. 56 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 3: M These truths are self evident? Are they not? Perhaps 57 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 3: self evident? Then self evident? Self evident? You're not mistaken, sir. 58 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 3: I share your sentiment. Every single word was precisely chosen. 59 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 3: I assure you that, doctor Franklin. 60 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 4: Yes, but yours will not be the only hand in 61 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 4: this document. 62 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 3: It cannot be. 63 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 4: They will try to mangle it, and they may succeed. 64 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: There may be expressions which I would not have inserted 65 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 2: if I had drawn it up, but I will defend 66 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 2: every word of it. 67 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 3: Well, that's what I believe. This is a marvelous invention, 68 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 3: mister Jefferson. Yes, I went through a number of variations. 69 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 4: This is by far the most successful simplest is always 70 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 4: the best. 71 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 3: It's two seats and the top one swivels on rollers 72 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 3: made from the window sass pulleys. Oh, most ingenious. 73 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:06,559 Speaker 5: This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray 74 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 5: for our enemies because we're going to medieval on these people. 75 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:12,559 Speaker 5: Here's not got a free shot. 76 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 6: All these networks lying about the people, the people have 77 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 6: had a belly full of it. 78 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 3: I know you don't like hearing that. 79 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 6: I know you tried to do everything in the world 80 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 6: to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. 81 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 5: It's going to happen. And where do people like that 82 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 5: go to share the big line? 83 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 3: Mega media? 84 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 6: I wish in my soul, I wish that any of 85 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 6: these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my 86 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 6: task and what is my purpose? If that answer is 87 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 6: to save my country, this country. 88 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 3: Will be saved. Wom here's your host, Stephen K. 89 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: Bath. 90 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 6: It's Friday, four July, the fourth of July in the 91 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 6: year of the Lord, twenty twenty five. 92 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 5: It's Independence Day, and of course. 93 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 6: Here always on Independence Day and our other great civic holidays, 94 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 6: we try to get the music. 95 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 5: And the tempo right. We're live today. 96 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 6: And honored to be doing this and thanking Real America's 97 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 6: voice and the complete staff for Real America's voices for 98 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 6: making this happen. 99 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 5: We always open these days with. 100 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 6: Footage or film our music that tries to bring back 101 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 6: and so you can commemorate actually what happened today. Throughout 102 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 6: the morning commemoration, we'll be playing clips from I think 103 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 6: two masterpieces, HBO's series John Adams that was starting Paul 104 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 6: Giamatti as John Adams, the late and great Tom Wilkerson, 105 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 6: a great British actor as doctor Benjamin Franklin. Of course 106 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 6: Stephen Adeline as Thomas Jefferson, who I think absolutely steals it. 107 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 6: And I don't say that as a Virginia, just unbelievable ormans, 108 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 6: all of them. That's a masterpiece. If you have not 109 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 6: watched John Adams, I strongly recommend that you do it, 110 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 6: and do it with the family. Also, we'll be taking 111 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 6: clips from the Broadway classic and film I think from 112 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 6: nineteen seventy two seventeen seventy six. 113 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 5: We'll play that through throughout the morning. Also, Patrick k 114 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 5: O'Donnell will join me in. 115 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 6: For the simple reason is that I think is what's 116 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 6: lost in thinking about independence day and thinking about the 117 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 6: fourth of July, and John Adams brought it up there 118 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 6: in that was his response at the beginning to John 119 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 6: Dickinson of Pennsylvania. Dickinson was a Quaker, he was also 120 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 6: what we call a loyalist. He's the one in the 121 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 6: deliberations that tried to make the case that they were 122 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 6: Englishmen and they should try to work out some accommodation 123 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 6: with the king, and that would negotiate. 124 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 5: And compromise were best. 125 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 6: Of course, they got it thrown back in their face 126 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 6: by the Crown consistently, and that's John Adams saying, hey, 127 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 6: we absolutely have to make a break. 128 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 5: And that led to the committee. 129 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 6: That was drafted the Declaration of Independence. Really the lead 130 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 6: writer Thomas Jefferson, and there you've seen the beginning of 131 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 6: the editing process, of which doctor Franklin and John Adams 132 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 6: helped him. They felt cleaned up a bit before put 133 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 6: before the. 134 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 5: Entire body. Of course, there were many more edits after that, 135 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 5: but the. 136 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 6: Core of it, Thomas Jefferson's one thing to remember, it 137 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 6: was a declaration of war. 138 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 5: It's a declaration of independence. But when you're part of 139 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 5: an empire and you're. 140 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 6: Saying, hey, upon further review, we're independent, You're going to war. 141 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 6: And Adams knew this, all of them knew it. What 142 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 6: is often lost and the teaching of the Declaration of 143 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 6: Independence and our birthday on on the fourth of July 144 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 6: seventeen seventy six, is that that was a tremendous debate 145 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 6: in a document that's lived through the ages and inspired 146 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 6: people of all nations. As doctor Menagament Franklin says right there, 147 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 6: it's for all men, and John Adams also says, this 148 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 6: is for all mankind, just not for the English colonists 149 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 6: in North America at the time. But the largest expeditionary 150 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 6: force in history to date was actually landing in New 151 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 6: York City at that time. I believe they had already 152 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 6: landed at Staten Island, the beginning of it landed Staten 153 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 6: Island on the second of July. This would turn out 154 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 6: to be over I think, a couple of hundred warships 155 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 6: and transport ships from the Royal Navy, which was an 156 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 6: institution that England really rose to power around its navy. 157 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 6: The British Army also was landing, and in fact, just 158 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 6: a couple of weeks after this, the Declaration basically by 159 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 6: early to mid August. They were ready to get it 160 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 6: on and essentially destroy the Continental Army and really take 161 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 6: America back and beat down and crush the revolution. In 162 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 6: the first ninety days after the sign of the declaration. 163 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 6: My point, the founders and the founders of the revolutionary 164 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 6: generation understood that this was going to have to resort 165 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 6: to a fight, and this fight would cause a river 166 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 6: of blood. And they were bound and determined to lead 167 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 6: their countrymen in that fight. 168 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 5: And it wasn't just going to come. 169 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 6: From a bunch of smart lawyers and people that knew 170 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 6: rhetoric writing a flowery document to inspire people. They understood 171 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 6: that this would have to stand the test of a. 172 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 5: Long and brutal war. 173 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 6: That war did not end till seventeen eighty three. And 174 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 6: there were days, as I tell you, in our struggle, 175 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 6: there were days that you could not see the sunlit 176 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 6: uplands in the revolution. In fact, in the first from 177 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 6: the time the British landed in Long Island and swept 178 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 6: through through the American Thermopyla that took place in Brooklyn 179 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 6: all the way to the American Dunkirk that took place 180 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 6: at Brooklyn Heights, pushing us off Manhattan, then to New Jersey, 181 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 6: and all the way back till we crossed the Delaware 182 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 6: River back into Pennsylvania. Those first sixty ninety days of 183 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 6: battle looked very grim. 184 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 5: Patrick K. 185 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 6: O'donald, the greatest combat historian of his generation, will join 186 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 6: us at the bottom of the hour. 187 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 5: It's Independence Day. In the war room, stick around. 188 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 6: We're gonna have music, film clips, history, all of it 189 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 6: to commemorate the birth of this nation. 190 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 2: Speaking thunder to England, France, and Spain, nations over the ocean, 191 00:14:59,000 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 2: spread shelter