1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: You're listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast, a 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: imparanormal podcast network where we offer you podcasts of the 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: supernatural and the unexplained. Getting ready now for Shades of 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain. Welcome to our podcast. Please 5 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: be aware the thoughts and opinions expressed by the host 6 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: are their thoughts and opinions only and do not reflect 7 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast to Coast, AM employees of 8 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: Premiere Networks, or their sponsors and associates. We would like 9 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: to encourage you to do your own research and discover 10 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: the subject matter for yourself. Hi. I'm Sandra Champlain. For 11 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: over twenty five years, I've been on a journey to 12 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: prove the existence of life after death. On each episode, 13 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,919 Speaker 1: will discuss the reasons we now know that our loved 14 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: ones have survived physical doubt, and so will we. Welcome 15 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: to Shades of the Afterlife. Can I tell you it 16 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: has been one heck of a wild week since last 17 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: I was with you. I feel like I've had a 18 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: growth spurt on the afterlife and on dying. Sounds kind 19 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: of weird, doesn't it. Everything I talk about with you 20 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: is just as much for me as it is for you. 21 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: You see, I have a mind probably much like yours, 22 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: who forgets about this stuff. It happens often. I get 23 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: busy in life. You get busy, things happen, Fear creeps in, 24 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: worry about the past or future, guilt, you know, all 25 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: that stuff. I get an opportunity to research and record 26 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: an episode of Shades of the Afterlife, and it's like, ah, 27 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: I'm back. Okay, I'm a soul having a human experience. 28 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: There's growth for my soul. It's okay to make mistakes. 29 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: I want to use this episode for lots of different reasons, 30 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: for some news, to give you my story of what 31 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: happened this past week and why I feel like I've 32 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 1: had this growth spurt, and also let you hear from 33 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: a guest that I had speak on our Sunday gathering 34 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: this past week about life and the afterlife. It was 35 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: so amazing that I am just sharing it everywhere I can. 36 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: Where to begin, Okay, let's go back two episodes ago, 37 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: number one twenty one. If you listened, we did an 38 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: experiment in remote viewing. It's an EESP technique. Why did 39 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: I put it into Shade of the afterlife, you ask well, 40 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: for the simple reason is once you can get a 41 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: taste of how extraordinary your soul is and how you 42 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: can see things in a different location that you shouldn't 43 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: be able to and no things, then you can realize 44 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: that you must be more than just the skin and 45 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: bones that you think you're made of. So what I 46 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: did two episodes ago, at the very beginning, I had 47 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: an object sitting in front of me. I had something 48 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: that I held in my hand, and then I had 49 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 1: a song that I sang a little bit of. Here's 50 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: the thing. I didn't describe any of them. I asked 51 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: those who were listening to quiet their mind, use their imagination, 52 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: and see in their minds eye if they could tell 53 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: some elements of these objects and of the song. I 54 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: don't want to tell you now, in case you haven't 55 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: heard it, anything about the objects. But what I can 56 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: tell you is I have received many emails from you 57 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: listeners saying that your mind is pretty much blown because 58 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: either you were right you were close to or you 59 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: thought you were wrong. And those things that you did see, well, 60 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: they were also things that were in my line of vision. 61 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: So your soul picked up on something different than what 62 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: I intended, but so what you got it. Those of 63 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: you who feel like you got to the end of 64 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: the episode and you are completely wrong, it's no problem. 65 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: We need to be willing to be wrong and have 66 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,559 Speaker 1: a sense of humor, have the idea that it's okay 67 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: to play with this and do it again. I want 68 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: to give those of you who are interested in practicing 69 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: this even more a nice way to practice. Pick up 70 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: a magazine that either you haven't ever looked at, or 71 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: maybe one that you haven't looked at in years. Take 72 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: a few minutes, talk to your soul, say I intend 73 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: to remote view some of the contents of this magazine, 74 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: meaning pictures. Take a few deep breaths, have a notepad 75 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: in front of you, and play. Don't try to figure 76 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: it out. Because we have two sides of our brain, 77 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: the analytical one. We need to tuck that away somewhere 78 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: to work. We need to be okay to be wrong. 79 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: We need to play with our imagination and just look 80 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: at what images and thoughts come to your mind about 81 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: what's in that magazine. Write them all down, take a 82 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: little break, revisit it, write down some more things, and 83 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: when you're ready, go page by page into the magazine. 84 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: You may write down something, say that looked like a 85 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: wagon wheel, but when you went through it, it might 86 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: be a bicycle wheel. Again, don't look for exactly the object, 87 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: although it may happen. Be open. You are building a 88 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: relationship with your soul and watching how it works. The 89 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: first time I had done this, I had a magazine 90 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: called A Woman's World that I used to always purchase 91 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: for my grandmother, and after she had passed, I still 92 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: kept picking up those magazines and I decided to do 93 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: this experiment, and my intention was to remote view what 94 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: was on page twenty five. My mind came up with 95 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: all kinds of different images and I got to page 96 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: twenty five and none of them were on there. So 97 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,799 Speaker 1: I thought, ah, this didn't work. However, when I started 98 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: reading the magazine, somehow my soul very quickly went through 99 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: the pages and most of the things I had written 100 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,239 Speaker 1: down were inside that magazine. I tell you what blew 101 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: my mind, absolutely incredible. I have more details on how 102 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: to remote view one twenty one and also inside my 103 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: book We Don't Die, a skeptics discovery of life after Death, 104 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: which of course you can use coupon code free at 105 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: my website. We Don't Die dot Com. So that's remote 106 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: viewing now. Last week's episode, Death Is But a Dream, 107 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: talking about the great work of doctor Christopher Kerr. My 108 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: growth spurt started when I was researching that episode, and 109 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: the more and more I got into it, I felt 110 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: rather astonished that I didn't know this stuff before. Basically, 111 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: we've all heard of deathbed visitations. You've heard me talk 112 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: about them plenty of times, those moments just before someone 113 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: passes and they look up and they can see a 114 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: loved one or an angel. Lots of stories of those. 115 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: But in a nutshell, I learned that part of the 116 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: dying process sleep a lot number one. But the dreams 117 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: we have occur as real as reality, and the people 118 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: in those dreams are people from our past, people who 119 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: have already departed this earth. They appear as if they're 120 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: coming for us, often as if we are traveling, and 121 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: the people who were studied say that these experiences really 122 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: are just as real as anything else they're living in life. 123 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: So we can be really comforted that our loved ones 124 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: are there to help us across the vale. Not only 125 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: have I received emails about the remote viewing experiment, but 126 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: also several of you have told me stories of people 127 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: in your life that approximately two weeks before they passed, 128 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: they started dreaming and sharing dreams about loved ones, those 129 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: dreams that were so real. Not too long ago, I 130 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: was giving away a bunch of stuff. One of the 131 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: ladies that came to pick some things up told me 132 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: that her husband had just passed. It's rather an uncomfortable 133 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: situation to be in. Do I tell a complete stranger 134 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: that I'm the author of the book We Don't Die 135 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: and that I have a podcast, or do I say nothing? 136 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: You know what I did, right? I asked her, I 137 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: have something a little strange that I'd love to share 138 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: with you, but I don't know if it's okay. Is 139 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 1: it okay that I share? And she's so, yeah, share 140 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: whatever you'd like. And I said, I have known grief, 141 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: and I've actually studied grief and looked for evidence. Is 142 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: there an afterlife? And I've written a book on it 143 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: called We Don't Die. Well, guess what happened? This lady's 144 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: eyes just parked up and she wanted to know what 145 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: I had to say. So not only did I share 146 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: my thoughts best as I could, but I gave her 147 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: a copy of my book we exchanged phone numbers to 148 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: stay in touch, and of course there was a big hug. 149 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: But before she left, she says, I want to tell 150 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: you something about my dad. About two weeks before he passed, 151 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: he had a dream. She said that my mother was 152 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: there telling him it's almost time to come home. Get 153 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: your affairs in order. So literally, this man believed he 154 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: was going to die, got all of his affairs in order, 155 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: and lo and behold. A couple weeks later he passed. 156 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: So this just reassures me that the dreams we have 157 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: before or we go are comforting. They can take away 158 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 1: our fear of dying. We know our loved ones are 159 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: there and that we don't have anything to be afraid of. 160 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: Am I ready to die? No? Do I have fear 161 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 1: of pain? Yes? I do, But we can talk about 162 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: that later. Because I'm a big fan of what I 163 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: know about hospice. I just thought a one more story 164 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: before we go to the break. I was on an 165 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: airplane years ago and the lady's sitting next to me 166 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: and I were talking about life after death, and she 167 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: told me that a couple of weeks before her mom died, 168 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: she saw her husband. This lady's father in the hospital room. Now, 169 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: this lady have been a long time smoker, and towards 170 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: the end of her life, the children, her adult children said, 171 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 1: you know, if mom asks for a cigarette, she's so 172 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: close to dying, why not give it to her. So 173 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: the it's asked her, you know, Mom, you've been asking 174 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: for a cigarette, would you like one? And she says, no, 175 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: your father's right here, and I don't want him to 176 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: smell the smoke on me. I'm so excited that you're 177 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: listening to the show because it has me do the 178 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: research and learn for myself and be able to share 179 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: it with you. So it's good stuff. Let's go to 180 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: the break and when we come back, we will hear 181 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: from Brian Smith about why he believes in the afterlife 182 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: and some very powerful words and why not take a 183 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: moment and think for yourself. Who's going to be there 184 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: coming for you? Someone from your past, parents', husband, wife, siblings, 185 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: the family, dog or cat jumping up on your bed. 186 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: It's real, my friend, we don't die. So let's go 187 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: to the break. You're listening to say of the Afterlife 188 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast, a paranormal podcast network. 189 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere. 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Coast to coast al dot com. Hi, 200 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: it's Donor Sky. Keep it right here on the Iart 201 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: Radio and Coast to Coast AM Pernormal Podcast Network. Welcome 202 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sanders Champlain and 203 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: on this segment, I'd like to play some words from 204 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: Brian Smith. He is the author of the book Grief 205 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: to Growth. He also has a podcast by the same 206 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: name and the website Grief to Growth dot com. Brian 207 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: was my guest on our weekly Sunday gathering and his 208 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:53,479 Speaker 1: address was so fantastic about life and death and the afterlife. 209 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: It's something I think every human being should hear. So 210 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: here's Brian and Sander introduced me earlier, but just in 211 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: case you missed the introduction, my name is Brian Smith. 212 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: And before we get started, I want to get started 213 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: with a very short story about who I am and 214 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: how I came to be here today. I grew up 215 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: as a child with a great fear of death. Religious 216 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: beliefs like original sin and how actually tormented me. And 217 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: that fear of death that I would actually even terms 218 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: the natophobia, which is a hard word to say, led 219 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: me to a fascination with studying death. And I've studied 220 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: death for most of my life. Suddenly, in twenty fifteen, 221 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: my daughter, who was then fifteen years old, Shane and Lane, 222 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: she passed away into spirit and this is my daughter's 223 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: Shane of behind me. I was lost. I was devastated. 224 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: I really no longer wanted to be on this earth. 225 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: And I know that for anyone who's lost a child, 226 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: or someone as close as a child, it could be 227 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: a spouse, could be a parent. I know you understand 228 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: what that means. It's as if half of you left 229 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: with them, and all of me wanted to be with her. 230 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: All I wanted was to be with her again, or 231 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: all I wanted was to be with her again. By 232 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: new I had other responsibilities, a wife who's actually on 233 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: here today, I have another daughter, I've got family, I've 234 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: got friends, and I quickly realized that I couldn't just 235 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: sit down and die. I had to keep moving forward. 236 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: So what I did after Shanea passes, I accelerated my studies. 237 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: And since that day, almost eight years ago, I've dedicated 238 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: my life to learning more about the afterlife. And I've 239 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: learned a lot from our friends, and I've taken what 240 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: I've learned and I've integrated into my work for like 241 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: the last four years. In the last four years, I've 242 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: been teaching others about the afterlife and to day. As 243 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: Sandra said, I'm the host of the Grief to Growth podcast. 244 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: I'm a life coach, I'm a certified grief educator, and 245 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: I teach something called positive intelligence. I do host a 246 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: podcast on a YouTube channel and a write about what 247 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: I've learned, and I recently lost a launch of program 248 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: that incorporates all these principles I've learned into a curriculum 249 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: that I got my clients through. So I say this 250 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: to say I speak to you today as someone who's 251 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: made this my lifelong study. This is my purpose. Now. 252 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: I also want to say I'm a chemical engineer by training. 253 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: I'm a very rational person. When I was a little kid, 254 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: I used to take things apart just to put them 255 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: back together again and see how they worked. Like Sandra, 256 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: I'm a very rational and a skeptic person. I'm not 257 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: really woo woo skeptic person. I'm not really woo woo. 258 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: I study things. I don't take any of this for granted, 259 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: and I don't take it on faith. I think faith 260 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: is great, but I'm the kind of person I need 261 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: to know. I just can't just believe. So I've studied science, 262 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: I've studied philosophy, I've studied religion, and also subject to 263 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: personal experiences like out of body experiences, near death experiences, mediumship, 264 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 1: after life communications, etc. There's a whole body of evidence. 265 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: So where I sit today, I am one hundred percent 266 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: confident that we don't die, as Sandra says, I'm one 267 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: hundred percent confident that we are spiritual beings having a 268 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: temporary human experience. But this experience, while it is temporary, 269 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: can sometimes be overwhelming, and I acknowledge that, and sometimes 270 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: we need to be reminded of the greater reality, the 271 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: overarching truth of our true temporary residence is where we are. 272 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: So now getting onto the topic of the day, the 273 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: topic of the day is home. And when I say home, 274 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 1: that's that with the lower case age, but home with 275 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: an upper case age. So what is home? Well, I've 276 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: been on this planet long enough to have had several homes. 277 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 1: I've had homes in different cities, homes of different states. 278 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: I've lived in apartments. I've lived in houses where I 279 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: grew up, a place I grew up with my parents. 280 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: I've had temporary homes like when I went away to 281 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: college and I lived in norms, and even more temporary 282 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: homes like, for example, when you go on vacation, if 283 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 1: you think about it, when you go on vacation, you 284 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: stay in hotel for like a week. After a week 285 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: or so, you're coming back to that room. That room 286 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: kind of feels almost like home for a little while, 287 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: and then you remember your true home is back in 288 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: the city that where you live. But even none of 289 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: these places are our true home with a capital age. Now, 290 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: sometimes even when we're on vacation. Even when we're out 291 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: having a good time, you get homesick, and even though 292 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: you're intentionally away from home, you kind of want to 293 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: be back to where you were. You want to sleep 294 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: in your own You miss having your own stuff, and 295 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: even though your away or your own volition, you long 296 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: for home now again. At home, I think is relative. 297 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: When I first moved in the house i'm living in now, 298 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 1: or our city right now, I thought of my old 299 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: house as home for a while, and then I got 300 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: used to this being home, and now this is home. 301 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: When my daughter moved away to go to college, I 302 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: remember one time she said she's going back home, and 303 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: she was going back to a dorm, and it kind 304 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: of jarred me because I'm like, well, that's not your home. 305 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: And my point is here. Once we're in this physical place, 306 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: the room right now, and once we're in the bodies 307 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: at room right now, for a while, we start to 308 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: think of this as home, but it's not really our home. 309 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: Bodies at room right now, for a while, we start 310 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: to walk in the physical. As a term that Christian's 311 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: Sunburg uses, this is a temporary experience. It's a trip 312 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: away from home. It's you can think of as an adventure. 313 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: You can think of it as an excursion. You can 314 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: think of as a learning experience, like going away to college, 315 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: or was going away to school. But we live in 316 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,959 Speaker 1: a virtual reality. We live in a simil elation. And 317 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: I was speaking with some of the other day and 318 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: they said, are you talking about simulation theory, which is 319 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: a theory that physicists proposed. Well for me, I don't 320 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: even think it's theory anymore. This is reality. This physical 321 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: world that we live in, of course, is very real 322 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: while we're in it. Well for me, I don't even 323 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 1: think it's theory anymore. This is reality. This physical world 324 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: that we live in, of course, is very real while 325 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: we're in it. But physical is a matter of perspective. 326 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 1: We happen to live in this world and we think 327 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: of it as physical, but it's really just mental, or 328 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: not just mental, it's really mental, it's consciousness. Now, my 329 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: thinking has been greatly influenced by people like Bernardo Castro, 330 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: who wrote a great book called wom Materialism is Blowning, 331 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 1: and others that have come to the same conclusion by 332 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 1: observing reality and using logic, then what we see is 333 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: not as it appears to be. I've learned in recent 334 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 1: years that everything is consciousness, everything exists within consciousness, and 335 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: there are different levels of reality, if you will, they're 336 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: kind of nesting each other, but none of them is 337 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: actually physical. Physicists have even gotten to the point where 338 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: they tell us that what we perceive as solid, all 339 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: the stuff around us, is not really solid. That the chair, 340 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: for example, that I'm sitting in, the chair that you're 341 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: sitting in, might feel solid, but they're really vibrating masses 342 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: of energy. As our technology has gotten better and better, 343 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 1: we've gotten deeper and deeper looking into the physical. We 344 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: realized that what we thought was solid at one time, 345 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: it really isn't. When I was in college many many 346 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 1: years ago, we thought that atoms were the smallest individual 347 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 1: thing or the smartest indivisible thing, and then we realized 348 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 1: they are electrons and neutrons, And then we found out 349 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,479 Speaker 1: those are made of the trinos and quarks and all 350 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: these little tiny particles. But even as we've gotten even 351 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 1: deeper into this, we realized that electrons themselves aren't even particles. 352 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: They're waves of potential, and at the very smallest level, 353 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: these little things we call particles are actually vibrating bits 354 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: of energy. Now, for example, a hydrogen and adam itself 355 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: is ninety nine point And I'm not going to say 356 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: at all, but ninety nine point twelve nine six empty space. 357 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: Everything around us that we perceive as solid is not 358 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: really solid. So the reason I say this is this 359 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: is kind of a projection of a deeper level of 360 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: a consciousness that we live in. So why would we 361 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: come here? Why would we come in this place that's 362 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: not our home? But we come here for a time 363 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: to experience. We come here to learn, to grow. We'd 364 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: come here to learn compassion, we come here to learn love. 365 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: We'd come here, as I said, to have experiences. So 366 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: someone recently asked me if we're perfect in the afterlife 367 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 1: or before we could come here, why do we have 368 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 1: to come here to grow? Well, I would ask you 369 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: what does it mean to be perfect? Your death? Experiences 370 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: might say, well, suddenly I knew everything. I knew all 371 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: the secrets of the universe. But that is actually intellectual knowledge. 372 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: To be truly omniscient, To truly know everything, you'd have 373 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: to know what everything is like, so something you can 374 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: only learn experientially. To be an omniscient being, to know everything, 375 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: you'd have to experience pretty much everything. For example, if 376 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: you omniscient, being a knew everything, you wouldn't know what 377 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 1: it's like to not be able to speak English. If 378 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: you are never uncomfortable, you couldn't know what it's like 379 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: to be called. To know what it's like to receive mercy, 380 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,479 Speaker 1: you have to be in a position where you need mercy. 381 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 1: So hopefully you get my meaning. We need to have 382 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: these experiences to understand what it's like to have these experiences, 383 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: and we, my friends, are fractals of a greater consciousness. 384 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 1: We are here on a mission to have these experiences 385 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: to grow that consciousness. Now, some of us were taught 386 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: growing up believing that there is a guide who was 387 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: perfect and self contained and knew everything and God didn't 388 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: need anything. I don't think that's necessarily the way that 389 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: that level of consciousness is believing that there is a 390 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: God who was perfect and self contained and knew everything 391 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: and God didn't need anything. I don't think that's necessarily 392 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 1: the way that that level of consciousness is. The consciousness 393 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: that we are part of, is constantly expanding, is constantly growing, 394 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: and it's actually growing through our experiences. That reality, that 395 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 1: consciousness that source, whatever you want to call it, it 396 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: actually needs us to grow. As we grow, it grows, 397 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: and as we grow our individual consciousness, we grow the 398 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 1: collective consciousness. Now we come here only for a short time. 399 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: The reason why we're able to leave where we go 400 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,959 Speaker 1: and come here is because when we're there, we know 401 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: this is a short experience. We know this experience is temporal. 402 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: But when we're here, we forget that and we get 403 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: attached to things here. But remember, everything here fades away. 404 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 1: All the money that we accumulate, the homes that we accumulate, 405 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: the cars that we buy, we're only renting, in fact, 406 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: our very bodies, we're only renting. We're only going to 407 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: have these bodies for a short time, and these bodies 408 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: will fade away as well. But what's eternal as the 409 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,959 Speaker 1: result of the aparances that we have, the love that 410 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: we gain, the wisdom that we gain, that goes back 411 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: with us, and that's the only thing that goes with us. 412 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: So I am going to pause Brian until the next 413 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: segment because he's got another train of thought that is 414 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: so good. Can you see why I wanted you to 415 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 1: hear this? When he talks about our experiences, I often 416 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: very playfully say, can you imagine a place that's all good, 417 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: all of the time, where you have everything? So, say 418 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: your favorite food is pizza. You know what would happen 419 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: if you only got pizza? Who would become boring? You 420 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: need to have the negative to the positive. Do we 421 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: need so much negative? Well? I don't know about that, 422 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: but I do know I cannot experience true joy unless 423 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: I've experienced the opposite of that. He also talks about 424 00:25:55,400 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: quarks and these tiny little things inside of Adams. If 425 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: you study anything at the quantum level, you realize how 426 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: much of us is made up of empty space. If 427 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: you put a camera into one of the atoms within us, 428 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: we would be completely invisible. All we are is vibrating energy. 429 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: I do hope you're enjoying this as much as I am. 430 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: I could listen to this over and over and over, 431 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: and I will. Let's go to the break and then 432 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: we'll be back with Brian. You're listening to Shades of 433 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 1: the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast am 434 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 1: Paranormal Podcast Network. To stay right there, there's more, Sandra 435 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: coming right out. The Internet is an extraordinary resource that 436 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: links our children to a world of information, experiences and 437 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: ideas and also can expose them to risk. Teach your 438 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: children the basic safety rules of the virtual world. Our 439 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: children are everything, Do everything for them. Hi, this is 440 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 1: you follow just Kevin Randall and you're listening to the 441 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and Coast to Coach am Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome 442 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 1: back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sanders Champlain. We 443 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 1: aren't going to waste any time. We're going to dive 444 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: right back in with that fantastic talk by Brian Smith 445 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: from Grief to Growth. So I mentioned we come here 446 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: to improve consciousness, and I mentioned we come here to 447 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 1: improve consciousness. Of consciousness can improve itself and improve ourselves. 448 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 1: But there's actually more. When I talk to people about this, 449 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 1: this idea, they say, well, I would never sign up 450 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 1: for this. There's no way I would sign up to 451 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 1: come to this place. This place is stupid, this place 452 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 1: is crazy. So maybe look at this from a different perspective. 453 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: I'll give you a couple of examples. Now, when I 454 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: was younger, I mentioned earlier, I'm a chemical engineer. I 455 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: went away to college and I actually paid money to 456 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: get my degree and it was hard. That shows chemical jinery, 457 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: partly because it was the hardest thing that I could 458 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 1: go through. But I wanted to learn, I wanted to grow, 459 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 1: and as I said, I paid money for that. Now, 460 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: I also love like reality TV. I just I love 461 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: to watch human nature. And there are a couple of 462 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: shows on reality TV. And one's called Naked and Afraid 463 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,959 Speaker 1: and the other one's called Alone. And in these shows, 464 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: they put themselves in extreme conditions. For example, in the 465 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: show Naked and Afraid, they go into the wilderness wearing nothing, 466 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: and I mean they wear nothing. They have no clothes, 467 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: no shoes, nothing. They get a bag and two items 468 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: maybe it will have a pot in a knife, and 469 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: they tried to sign just five for twenty one days. Now, 470 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: when I explain this program to people, they say, who 471 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: are these crazy people to do this? They must be 472 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: doing it for the money. Well, in that show, there 473 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: actually is no money. There's no prize in the show. 474 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: In that particular show, they do it for the adventure. 475 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: They do it for the challenge. They do it to 476 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: improve their skills. They make themselves uncomfortable on purpose to 477 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: see how they stack up. The other show I mentioned 478 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: earlier is called Alone, and in that sense, it's even 479 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: more extreme. These people go to Canada in the winter 480 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: with a few items. Now they do have clothes, and 481 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: they have tents and things, but they're literally alone. They 482 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: take a camera with them, they fill themselves. There's no crew, 483 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: there's no backup. There are bears, there are wolves, They 484 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: are all kinds of predators. And they go out and 485 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: they put themselves up against nature. And every time I've 486 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: watched a show, every single contestant comes out change, and 487 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: I mean change, not just physically because they lose a 488 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: lot of weight, but they are changed mentally, spiritually, emotionally. 489 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: The solitude that they go through, the hardships that they 490 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: go through, actually hones them into different people, and they're 491 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: different from the rest of their lives. And the last 492 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: example I give about the way we set up challenges 493 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,479 Speaker 1: for ourselves. I love sports. I love watching people compete 494 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: at anything. You ever thought about how silly sports are 495 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: that we go out these big men and they put 496 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: on these pads and they hit each other and they 497 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: tackle each other, and one team's trying to move the 498 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: ball way and the other team's trying to move the 499 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: ball the other way, and it's all just fun, right, 500 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: It's all just to see if we can do it. 501 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: They risk life for them to do this. We pay 502 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: money to watch it all for the challenge. Just as 503 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: part of human nature. I think we seek challenges. So 504 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: that's why we come here. Now. We often refer to 505 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: the next life as the afterlife, and that's fine from 506 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: the perspective. And when we're here, right, this life is 507 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: here and then we have the afterlife. Now more accurately, 508 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: there's actually one life, and I've heard it termed the everlife, 509 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: but I actually started calling this phase of life the 510 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: between life. When we come here, it's between We come 511 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: from one place, we come here, and we go back 512 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: to the same place, so this is really the between life. 513 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: And the other day I would speaking with a gentleman 514 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: and we were talking about my daughter who had transitioned. 515 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: I like the term transitioned and graduated and things that 516 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: let us know that our loved ones don't truly die. 517 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: And he used the term continuation day to describe the 518 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: day my daughter passed in the spirit, and I love 519 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: that term. She continues that what we see is death 520 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: is only the limit of our site. It's just the horizon. 521 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: When a ship goes across the horizon. It doesn't disappear, 522 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: it doesn't go away, it's just out of our sight. 523 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: I've heard the term risen used to describe the dead. 524 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: I love that term risen. The other day I heard 525 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: someone use the term moved upstairs. All of these phrases 526 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: remind us that this is not our real life, that 527 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: this is not our home, that we each have our 528 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: time to go through this, and then we each have 529 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: our time to go home. We come here to go 530 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: through these hardships. We come here to come out stronger. 531 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: We come here to support each other and lean on 532 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: each other as we make that journey home. So I'm 533 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: not really an adventurous person. The other day someone asked 534 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: me a question like, what's the most adventurous thing you've 535 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: ever done? And I really had to think about that 536 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: because I don't like adventure. My answer was, it's probably 537 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: scuba diving. I'm not in a skydiving or extreme hiking 538 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: or even running marathons. But I do want to say 539 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: this to you. You may feel like you're not an 540 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: adventurous person either, But if you're here, if you're listening 541 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: to me, if you were the inside of my voice, 542 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: if you're on the planet Earth. You are an adventurous person. 543 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: We are the baddest of the bads. We are the 544 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: tough guys people that choose to incarnate. We are as 545 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: pretty special people. Christian Sundberg I mentioned earlier, wrote a 546 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: book called A Walk in the Physical and he's got 547 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: these pre life memories or between life memories, and in 548 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: his experience he talks about being on the other side 549 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: and what I would call the real life. He's walking 550 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: around one day metaphorically speaking, he comes across as being. 551 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: This being was different. This being was like shiny and 552 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: bright and just you know, exuding wisdom and Christian wondering 553 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: what made this being different and what he realized when 554 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: the ascid of being was this being and had a 555 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: physical experience, had incarnated, and it had changed him. It 556 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: had grown his capacity, It had grown his wisdom and 557 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: grown his capacity of love. When I interviewed Natalie Sudman 558 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: for my program, she talked about the perspective from the 559 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: other side, their perspective of people that come to Earth, 560 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: and this is what she had to say in her 561 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: book The Application of Impossible Things. This physical life is 562 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: a unique experience and it's entrancing from the perspective of 563 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: expanded awareness. It is utterly lovely, it is deliciously strange. 564 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: It's challenging and wildly exciting. The razor focus required to 565 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: remain in the collective physical is intensely satisfying for her 566 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: whole self, for her higher self. Physical reality where we 567 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: are is a balancing trick, a performance, high and intensely 568 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: concentrated speed tests of complex skills. We are each an 569 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: F twenty two pilot flying fifty feet off the deck 570 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: through an impossibly narrow canyon. That's what it's like to 571 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: be in the physical, and that's what you and I 572 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: are going through. So I say this to you, my friends. 573 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 1: If you're feeling overwhelmed, if you're feeling lonely, if you're 574 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: feeling homesick, it's okay. When I was a child, my 575 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: favorite movie was The Wizard of Eyes, and the song 576 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,280 Speaker 1: that Stephanie Mills sang is from the movie The Whiz, 577 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: which came from the Wizard of Ozes. It's probably why 578 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: it's one of my all time favorite songs. But when 579 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:24,879 Speaker 1: that movie came on, it came on once a year, 580 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 1: And when I grew up, there was no DVR, there 581 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: was no VCR, you either saw the movie or you 582 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,720 Speaker 1: still miss it to the next year. And I always 583 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: made sure I was in front of the TV that 584 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: night that movie came on. And if you know the movie, 585 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 1: and remember in the movie, Dorothy is on an adventure. 586 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: Dorothy is taking this adventure and she feels weak, she 587 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 1: feels small, she feels powerless, and she meets these other 588 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: beings that feel weak and they feel small and they're powerless. 589 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: And they take this journey, and through the hardships that 590 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,879 Speaker 1: they face, they realize that the things that they were 591 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: seeking were actually with them all along. They're seeking a brain, 592 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: they're seeking a heart, they're seeking courage, and they have 593 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: to go through these trials so actually exhibit these qualities. 594 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: They have to go through these trials to actually understand 595 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: that they already have them with them and to grow 596 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,760 Speaker 1: these qualities. But they take this journey. But if you remember, 597 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: at the end of the movie, Dorothy wakes up in 598 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 1: her bed with their loved ones all around her, and 599 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: she realized that it was quote just a dream. That's 600 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,240 Speaker 1: what this life is like. So I want to review 601 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: the lyrics of the song by Stephanie Mills, and I'm 602 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 1: just gonna read it a little bit of this, She says. Oh, 603 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: if you're listening, God, please don't make it hard to 604 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: know if we should believe the things that we see. 605 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 1: Tell us should we try to stay or should we 606 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 1: run away? Or we'll be better to just to let 607 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 1: them be. Living here in this brand new world might 608 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: be a fantasy, but it's taught me to love, and 609 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: it's real to me, and I've learned we must look 610 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: inside our hearts to find a world full of love, 611 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: a world like yours, like mine, like home. When I 612 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: think of home, my friends smiling down on me, giving 613 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: me their energy. When I think of home, I think 614 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 1: of a peaceful world, enjoy all around me. When I 615 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: think of home, and love that we share can never, 616 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: never be taken away from me. When I think of home, 617 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 1: I just sit down and think, and it gets down 618 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: to my bones. When I think of home, I can 619 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: hear my friends telling me, Stephanie, please sing my song. 620 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: This is a strange place that we're in. This is 621 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,320 Speaker 1: a strange journey that we're on, and sometimes we forget 622 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: while we're here, we forget we're surrounded by people that 623 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: love us. Are these people in spirit, our past loved 624 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: ones like my daughters, Shanam, our spirit guides, our families 625 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 1: that we've left home, that we don't even remember while 626 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: we're in the physical. When we go home, we'll see 627 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 1: them again and we'll say, oh, yeah, I haven't seen 628 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: no long time. Now. I'm about to wrap up here, 629 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: and I want to, but I want to leave you 630 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: with the comment that I I recently received from someone who 631 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: had had a near death experience, and they posted this 632 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: on my YouTube channel, and it just felt me with joy, 633 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: he said. While I was there, I went way out 634 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: to the cosmos, beyond the stars and the planet, to 635 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: where it was total darkness, and I could see perfectly. 636 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 1: I was able to look back at myself from above. 637 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 1: I was on tiptoe, leaning as far as possible over 638 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,399 Speaker 1: the edge of the wisdom of God, as a woman 639 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 1: go to a well to gaze down into it as 640 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 1: far as I could see. I was wearing blue jeans, 641 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 1: and I'm twenty three, though I was fifty seven at 642 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: the time I died, and it had been year since 643 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,359 Speaker 1: I had warned jeans. I was face to face eye 644 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,320 Speaker 1: to eye when I was healed, though its first shown 645 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: my family as forms once together, we all had bodies 646 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 1: and faces, and we loved as we were always meant 647 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 1: to be, laughing from that deep place with joy, and 648 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 1: then knowing that we were safe no matter what. And 649 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: I recalled trying to remember what was it that ever 650 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,839 Speaker 1: made me feel unsafe, and I couldn't bring to mind 651 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: one single thing. It's an awesome place of love and 652 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: happiness because we are totally united in truth. So it's again, 653 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,839 Speaker 1: we're here for a reason. If you're here today, you're 654 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 1: here for a purpose. And I know it's a long journey, 655 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 1: but it's a journey that's worth the adventure. It will 656 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 1: pay off in the end. Way is that we can't 657 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: even comprehend at the moment when you're feeling overwhelmed, remember 658 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 1: the words of Ramdas, we're all just walking each other home. 659 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 1: So let's hold hands and make it together. So in 660 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 1: that spirit, I'd like to offer a little gift to you. 661 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: It's a short guide that I have on a few 662 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 1: things that I've found that worked for me when I'm 663 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: in grief or actually at any time. So if you 664 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 1: go to my website www. Dot grief togrowth dot com, 665 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 1: that's Grief the Numeral two Growth dot com slash Sandra, 666 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 1: you can download this guide for free. So thanks for 667 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 1: being here, Thanks for listening, and I hope you have 668 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: a wonderful Sunday. Wow, that's all I can say. Yes, 669 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 1: we come here to experience. We are fighter jet pilots 670 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: just fifty feet above the earth going through mountains and canyons, 671 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 1: and it's a scary ride, but we are experiencing. We're 672 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: going to go into the break, and when we come back, 673 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you about this growth spurt and 674 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:58,880 Speaker 1: some things I've learned, and some television shows that really 675 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 1: struck a chord with me in the afterlife. I've got 676 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 1: some news for you. There's some good things that our 677 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 1: researcher in Brazil, Sonja Ronaldi, has been up to. You 678 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,840 Speaker 1: remember her from episode number one, the scientist who gets 679 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 1: images from the afterlife. 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I want to tell you about a 717 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 1: car I once had. As you may know, I spent 718 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:12,240 Speaker 1: over thirty years being a chef for race car teams. 719 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 1: Back in the nineties. I had a dream car. It 720 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:21,359 Speaker 1: was an Audie A four quatro. I loved watching them 721 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 1: go around the racetrack. I spent years saving up enough 722 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:30,879 Speaker 1: money and I finally purchased that car in nineteen ninety eight. 723 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: I loved it so much that the first night I 724 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 1: had it, I slept in it. That new car smell. 725 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 1: It was great. I had that car for ten years, 726 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 1: and the last well many years it had problems, and 727 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 1: I put a lot of money into it, and I 728 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 1: mean a lot of money. The day came where there 729 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,720 Speaker 1: was an oil leak so bad that it would cost 730 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 1: many thousand dollars to fix it, redo the engine, and 731 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,920 Speaker 1: I knew in my heart it was time to say goodbye, 732 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 1: and it was very difficult. I loved that car. My dad, 733 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,760 Speaker 1: my grandmother, people that I loved had been in that car. 734 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 1: I went through grief I did saying goodbye to that car. 735 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:27,759 Speaker 1: Why is my car story important? Because we each are traveling, 736 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:32,920 Speaker 1: like Brian said, in a rented car, this energy vehicle. 737 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 1: Death of the human body is one of the most 738 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,839 Speaker 1: normal things, and for most of us on planet Earth, 739 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 1: we are petrified of dying and what happens next. My 740 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 1: growth spurt that I was telling you about started with 741 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 1: learning of the works of doctor Christopher Kerr and these 742 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:04,280 Speaker 1: fifteen hundred patients that all had these true to life 743 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:10,760 Speaker 1: dreams weeks before they passed, seeing their loved ones young, alive, 744 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:16,400 Speaker 1: healthy well. One of your fellow listeners directed me to 745 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:22,759 Speaker 1: a short film on Netflix called End Game, where it's 746 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,320 Speaker 1: just as it seems, people were facing the end of 747 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 1: their life and really dealing with the stress and fear 748 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:36,879 Speaker 1: of having physical life end. A doctor from the Zen 749 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 1: Hospice Project spoke with a patient who was really fighting 750 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 1: to stay alive and had a heart to heart about 751 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:52,479 Speaker 1: her prognosis, the fight and all the evidence that there 752 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 1: is that we go on after physical death, and the 753 00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 1: woman decided not to fight it any more. I remember 754 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,959 Speaker 1: hearing a talk at an afterlife workshop I had gone 755 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:10,800 Speaker 1: two years ago, and the speaker said, over ninety percent 756 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:16,360 Speaker 1: of our healthcare dollar goes to people in their final 757 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 1: months of life. That means we spend everything to keep 758 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,760 Speaker 1: ourselves alive. And to make a little joke here, that's 759 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 1: what I did with my audie. I spent so much 760 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 1: money just to keep it alive because I loved it. 761 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 1: We do that as human beings. The fear of the 762 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 1: unknown keeps us hanging on. I asked myself, am I 763 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:49,319 Speaker 1: comfortable with the thought of dying. You would think I'd 764 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,879 Speaker 1: say yes because I have all these afterlife podcast episodes, 765 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,799 Speaker 1: but it's still hard for me to imagine that I'm 766 00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:02,320 Speaker 1: no longer here. Years ago, people saw a lot of death. 767 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 1: People died in the homes, loved ones were laid out 768 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:12,279 Speaker 1: in the parlor. Here's an interesting tidbit fun fact. What 769 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,959 Speaker 1: we know as living room today used to be known 770 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 1: as the parlor. Far too many people were seen in 771 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:27,680 Speaker 1: the parlor after they had departed that when funeral homes started, 772 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 1: they would call them funeral parlors. Parlor got associated with death, 773 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 1: and people, when they no longer had services in their home, 774 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 1: didn't want the word parlor associated with home. So that's 775 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 1: when the term changed to living room. And speaking of 776 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:58,879 Speaker 1: funeral parlors, I found a television show called Casketeers. That's right, 777 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:05,840 Speaker 1: casket Tears sounds like Mousketeers. Casketeers and I Binge watched 778 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:11,480 Speaker 1: a whole season in two nights. It is a reality 779 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:16,919 Speaker 1: show about a family that owns a funeral home in 780 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 1: New Zealand. They are just regular people, but also death 781 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 1: is part of their life. In each episode, they treat 782 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:32,759 Speaker 1: loved ones who have passed with dignity and respect. They 783 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 1: care for the families, they have a belief in the afterlife. 784 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 1: There is so much love and joy and humor in 785 00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:48,480 Speaker 1: this show that after watching a full season, they're short episodes. 786 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:55,200 Speaker 1: I started feeling like I'm becoming more comfortable with death. 787 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 1: It is difficult to find this TV show unless you 788 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,400 Speaker 1: live in New Zealand. I found it on a website 789 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:09,560 Speaker 1: called dailymotion dot com, so just search for Casketeers and 790 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 1: you'll see it. As I was becoming more comfortable with 791 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,879 Speaker 1: seeing death through the eyes of people in a funeral home, 792 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 1: I decided to do a little research locally on a 793 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 1: funeral home. What if something were to happen to me, 794 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,680 Speaker 1: where would I go? What would they do? And I 795 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:38,360 Speaker 1: ran across fern Acre's Funeral Home, located just ten minutes 796 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:42,640 Speaker 1: from where I live. Now, I recommend you do the same. 797 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 1: I found that they have an online pre arrangement form. 798 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:52,960 Speaker 1: It asks those tough questions, and I think, for myself, 799 00:48:53,760 --> 00:49:00,120 Speaker 1: I'd prefer cremation for you. Maybe it's burial, but there's 800 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 1: so much information about what happens arranging services. There are 801 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:17,200 Speaker 1: resources like what happens when a death occurs, there's grief support. 802 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:22,799 Speaker 1: I'm assuming that they're just regular people that have a 803 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,120 Speaker 1: lot of love in their heart that help people in 804 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 1: that in between stage. I think, personally, if we can 805 00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,680 Speaker 1: get to a point where even though we don't want 806 00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,040 Speaker 1: to leave this earth just yet, but we have the 807 00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:43,880 Speaker 1: arrangements made sure, we may have our will done, and 808 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 1: that's great, but to feel comfortable with the steps that 809 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:52,319 Speaker 1: happen next. I'm actually considering taking a drive out to 810 00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 1: this funeral home, meeting the people. You know, God forbid 811 00:49:56,280 --> 00:50:00,719 Speaker 1: something happens to me. My mom would be left with 812 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,480 Speaker 1: this and if she already knows where I'd like to go, 813 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 1: she has a contact name. They'll make it easy. And 814 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,520 Speaker 1: this is something we can talk to people in our 815 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:19,360 Speaker 1: life about much easier talking now, perhaps over a glass 816 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:25,200 Speaker 1: of wine or two, then having those really tough questions 817 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:29,279 Speaker 1: if someone is ill, you know what I mean. I 818 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:33,880 Speaker 1: do recommend for all of us get comfortable in the 819 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:38,359 Speaker 1: fact that our bodies will go, but we live on. 820 00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:43,440 Speaker 1: I have forgotten about my Audie until today because I 821 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:49,440 Speaker 1: drive another vehicle not as nice, but to me, this 822 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,880 Speaker 1: has been a topic that's been hard to think about, 823 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:57,759 Speaker 1: let alone talk about. So I do appreciate you, I 824 00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 1: really do listening to me and maybe bouncing around these 825 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:07,600 Speaker 1: ideas for yourself. Why not make it a party when 826 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:11,520 Speaker 1: the time comes and let your loved ones know you 827 00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:15,600 Speaker 1: may be invisible to their eyes, but you'll be right 828 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:19,920 Speaker 1: there with them in their hearts. So here's some news 829 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:25,360 Speaker 1: for you. The movie about Sonya Rinaldi, Transcommunication to the 830 00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 1: Other Side, has just been added to Amazon Prime. That 831 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:35,560 Speaker 1: is a big deal. So if you're an Amazon user, 832 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:41,080 Speaker 1: just type in Rinaldi Instrumental trans Communication to the Other 833 00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,239 Speaker 1: Side and you can watch it. If you're not in 834 00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:48,520 Speaker 1: America and this doesn't work in your country, I do 835 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:53,240 Speaker 1: have the movie on my website, we Don't Die dot com. 836 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:57,480 Speaker 1: You can easily find it there on the store page. Also, 837 00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:03,480 Speaker 1: back in December, Sonia a special event online with me. 838 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:09,080 Speaker 1: We did a raffle and one person that attended got 839 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:15,479 Speaker 1: gifted a session with Sonya Rinaldi. The results have just 840 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:20,560 Speaker 1: come out. The woman had lost her brother just weeks 841 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:26,240 Speaker 1: before in Lo and Behold, there's beautiful pictures to show 842 00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,560 Speaker 1: that he lives on. I want to show this to you, 843 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,160 Speaker 1: So all you have to do is go to We 844 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:37,880 Speaker 1: Don't Die dot com forward slash News and you can 845 00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:41,560 Speaker 1: see some of the work from Sonia Rinaldi, my ex 846 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:47,279 Speaker 1: boyfriend that came through pictures of my dad. I have 847 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,000 Speaker 1: a link to the special event we did with her, 848 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:55,920 Speaker 1: and then also the e magazine about Amy and her brother. 849 00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:00,279 Speaker 1: If you enjoyed the clip of Brian Smith from our 850 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:06,440 Speaker 1: Sunday gathering, please consider joining us every Sunday two pm 851 00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:11,760 Speaker 1: New York time. They are all recorded. Also, our new 852 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:17,080 Speaker 1: medium classes are open for registration. So again everything is 853 00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:21,160 Speaker 1: at We Don't Die dot com. I want to share 854 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,439 Speaker 1: with you the quote that I put in my high 855 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:29,960 Speaker 1: school yearbook, Don't be dismayed at goodbyes. A farewell is 856 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:35,120 Speaker 1: necessary before you can meet again, and meeting again after 857 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:41,040 Speaker 1: moments or lifetimes is certain for those who are friends. 858 00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:45,880 Speaker 1: That was written by Richard Bach from the book Illusions. 859 00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:51,240 Speaker 1: I know I've given you a lot to think about today, 860 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:55,240 Speaker 1: and it's okay. It's all the journey of the soul. 861 00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:01,240 Speaker 1: With that, I'm Sandra Champlain and I really, really truly 862 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,759 Speaker 1: want to thank you for listening to Shades of the 863 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:10,000 Speaker 1: Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal 864 00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:18,799 Speaker 1: Podcast Network. Thanks for listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast 865 00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,600 Speaker 1: to Coast A and Paranormal Podcast Network. Make sure and 866 00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,960 Speaker 1: check out all our shows on the iHeartRadio app or 867 00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:32,000 Speaker 1: by going to iHeartRadio dot com.