WEBVTT - Cassey Veggies Interview 0:00:01.080 --> 0:00:07.920 Real real Celebrity, Real Time joined the Breakfast Morning. Everybody 0:00:08.000 --> 0:00:10.920 is DJ Envy Angela yee shawl. I mean the guy 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:13.080 we all the Breakfast Club special guests in the building 0:00:13.080 --> 0:00:16.880 this morning. Mister Casey Veggies, Casey Veggies, I want to sign. 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:20.079 That's a very healthy name. Like did you eat a 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:23.280 lot of vegetables growing up? Like, how did you get 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:26.280 the nickname veggies? Um, I was like twelve years old 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:29.000 when we came up with that name. I mean my homies, 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:30.440 Me and my homies had a brand. I mean we 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:32.360 still got it going. It's called Peas and Carriage. I 0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:35.680 heard about it. I got on wanted to search right now. 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:39.199 So we need to take off the Death Road jacket 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:44.400 on the side side. That's dope. Oh now it's dope. Okay, 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:48.480 when jacket come from that. I bought this in La. 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:50.560 This is I don't even know the name of this line, 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:52.199 but I just bought it. I like the jacket. I 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:55.640 like these style of jack He's hard. But okay, P's 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:58.120 and Carriage Veggies. Yeah, you know, we started to Um, 0:00:58.480 --> 0:00:59.880 we just came up with the name. First of my 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:03.960 rapp name was custom It's like short for customized, and 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:05.920 I was like, you know that's too it's too plain. 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:07.880 You know, my name is Casey, So I'm like, you 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:09.840 know what, you know the honey name we came in 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:12.280 with like carrits, you know, peas, and then I was like, 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:14.080 you know what, it's no other vegetables. I'm gonna go 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:16.520 with veggie. I'm all the veggie. So you don't see 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:18.680 that in the hood because everybody's so unhealthy in the hood. 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:26.920 So if you all the name yourselves after nice vegetables 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:28.480 and name, my last name is Casey. Yeah. I used 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:31.520 to have me and my homeboys named each other after weed, 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:36.800 like I was Charlie, Chronic, Bobby, Buddha Marijuana. So it's 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:40.440 good to see you guys doing something healthy, definitely. I 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:44.480 mean we're pushing that organic lifestyle, everything natural, vegan, nah, 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:47.960 but you feel everything I do is is naturally. I'm 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:50.200 not forcing nothing. Now, did you start rapping because you 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:52.880 originally was was a ball a basketball player? Yeah, I 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:54.840 mean I started rapping when I was like twelve. I 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:56.760 should start writing, you know, like when I was going 0:01:56.760 --> 0:02:00.200 to high school and grade Uh. I mean I had 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:02.280 a super I love basketball, you know what I'm saying. 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:04.720 Since I was five years old. I played like travel ball. 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:06.760 I was on varsity when I was in eleventh grade 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:09.440 and then um, twelfth grade, I just fell out of 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:12.239 it all the way. But um, boint guard to guard. 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:14.720 I'm like, really, I was playing three and four Wow, 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:17.720 Because I was I was guarding big man. I can 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:21.520 stick whoever. I just love playing defense. But yeah, man, 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:24.120 when I was thirteen, I dropped my first mixtape. I 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:25.799 was in ninth grade in high school. I thought I 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:28.440 was the coolest kid ever. It was just I just 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:31.240 had a found the love for it being creative, you know, 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:35.160 especially yourself through music, and um, I just once I 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:37.400 got in that booth, I just never never turned back. 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:40.160 You were probably like a celebrity in school at a 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:41.960 young age. I mean, I think a lot of kids 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:45.000 grow up like local celebrities. But that's not a lot 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:47.639 of ninth grades putting out mixtapes. What got you more 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:55.960 basketball or rapping? Rapping? I mean, for me, probably be rapping. 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:58.040 That's why he went to rap, That's what it was. 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:01.120 It wasn't even that, not even for that. I went 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:03.000 to rap for the for the culture, you know, for 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:06.440 the art form. Seem so nothing crushed your hoop dreams. 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:09.640 It wasn't like an ankle injury. The coach. The coach, 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:13.400 just like coaches don't really give the players the right 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:15.679 chance sometime. And I was saying that the other that 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:18.640 a coach commencea but kids dream if you have a 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:23.640 bad coaching, I mean, I'm heavy, aren't you. Aren't you 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:25.640 a coach? Yeah, but I encouraged the kids regardless they 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:27.959 win to lose, I try to encourage. You could crush 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:30.119 your kid's life. Yeah, I think you should talk kids 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:32.440 the truth. So what the coach told you that I 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:35.040 was nice? Like I was good. My brother was on 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:37.200 the team, he got more playing time than me. I 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:40.040 mean I was just underestimated. I underrated, Like you feel me, 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:42.720 like like the coach will put me in. I would 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:44.360 be kind of nervous because it's like when the coach 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:46.440 don't play you, A lives like you. You're nervous, you 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:48.040 don't want to make a mistake, you know what I'm saying. 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:50.240 But if the coaches give you that opportunity, you don't 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:52.360 feel nervous no more. But for me, I mean I 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:54.360 got I did my thing when I got in the game, 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:56.680 but the coaches he didn't play me enough. So what 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:59.200 you think it was with the Rap the people gave 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:01.320 you validation. That was enough for you. I mean for me, 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:03.000 it was like with the Rap. I can take matters 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:05.000 into my own hands. I don't got to work, I 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:06.520 don't have to wait on the coach like I can 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:08.920 go to the studio. I can go push my my mixtape, 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:10.720 I can print them my own copies. I can go 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:12.480 to do my own shows. I don't got to wait 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:14.280 on the coach to put me in a game. I 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:16.040 putting myself in the game. Now, they said your dad 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:18.320 did security for jay Z. How old were you when 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:20.880 he was doing security for host? About like six years old? 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:23.080 So it was about that time got you into the rapping. 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:28.920 Is that when you signed the Rock Nation? Nah, I 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:32.000 was hooping like I was hooping hard back then. I 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:33.919 didn't even care what my dad was doing, Like I 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:35.039 was one of the You know, when you're young, you 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:37.040 ain't tribument with your dad how you make money. You 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:38.680 just letting him go out and do his thing. How 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:40.320 did that feel? Though? Your dad was from the west, 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:42.120 of course, West coast, but Jay was from the east, 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:44.000 and at that time it was west and east. Didn't 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:49.400 this is six Yeah, West and East for each other. 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:52.720 So how was that? I mean, my dad every time 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:55.200 Jay would come to la my dad mostly worked with 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:57.839 him in la Um. He would he said, he mainly 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:00.760 was signed to damn Dash. He would end up, you know, 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:05.080 working with Jake bodyguarding him sometime. But uh yeah, man, 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:07.520 it's just his history. Your dad must be a very 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:09.760 trustworthy dude, because there's no way in hell I'd be 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:11.559 coming from the East coast Hire in the West Coast. 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:13.960 I said they loved my dad, and my dad said 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:16.320 they loved him like they trusted they trusted him. Shook 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:18.560 night called my dad before he said they needed security 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:21.680 Tupac all that. So you signed the Rock Nation? Was 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:24.480 that your father's relationship with the Whole have had anything 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:26.320 to do with that? No, my dad wasn't even in 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:28.760 contact with Whole at all, Like you know what I'm saying, 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:30.720 Like I just went on did that on my own, 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:33.600 Like that was something totally different. Uh. I just got 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:35.640 a call one day, you know from who whoever that 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:38.240 was like checking for you, whoever that was feeling. Uh well, 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:40.479 actually this dude Rich climbing, you know, gave me that 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:43.280 call and um and I just told I just talked 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:46.240 about this. How Q Tip called me one day when 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:48.440 I was like seventeen. He gave me a call, and 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:51.080 Rich Climber was he was working with jay Z at 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:52.760 the time, so he just told me, I mean, Q 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:54.200 Tip was kind of you was trying to sign me 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:55.719 a little bit, you know, he was just chopping it 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:58.960 up with me. And then um, yeah, the Rich was like, 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:00.839 you know, Jay wanted meet you, like he wanted to 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:02.960 meet you. And I'm like, what, like for real? And 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:04.719 I was I was still in high school, so I 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:07.200 left school, missed like two days real quick. Yeah you 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:10.840 can miss Scho came to New York. I was out 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:12.720 here for one day and I met him. I was 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:15.000 at the hotel with him. He was recording and working 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:17.359 and watching thro How was that conversation? It was the 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:19.040 first thing he said to him. Did you say something 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:21.479 silly like hey, my dad just security for Nah, didn't 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:25.719 even bring that. That's what did jay Z hear from you? 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:27.280 Then made him say that he wanted to meet you. 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:29.200 I mean, I think he just was hearing through the 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:31.320 grape vine, like you know, my like this young artist 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:33.000 who was his new young cat. You know what I'm saying. Like, 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:35.160 especially I was coming up with our future. You know 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:36.920 what I'm saying. People was hearing about me from like 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:39.560 with Tyler and everything. Uh, he just knew I was 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:41.919 doing my thing, and uh, I played him some music. 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:44.400 I had dropped this album call Sleeping in Class in 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:47.359 twenty and ten, and um, he was just he I 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:49.279 played him some records and he was just vibing with 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:51.960 the music. Like I remember heard one of my verses 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:53.640 and was just appreciating the verse. And I was like, 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:56.599 this is crazy. You know, he really listening, really checking 0:06:56.600 --> 0:06:59.080 the lyrics and he really you know, checking it. See 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:00.440 what he's hearing, you know what I'm saying. And I 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:02.800 was like, this is crazy. And that gave me a 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:04.320 lot of confidence, you know what I'm saying, just to 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:07.400 know that people was really listening. You know, people's eyes 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:09.320 was open and go and sell it from our future? 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:11.880 Where they supportive of that, like yeah, go ahead, good thing, 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:13.520 or was it like come on, we're supposed to be 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:16.000 I mean, they definitely was supportive of that. I mean 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:18.760 I remember one day to Homi Hagi Beats asked me like, yo, 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:20.560 you still, like are you sure you want to you 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:21.720 know what I'm saying, Like you want to be down 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:23.840 with Like I know we're taking off, but you want 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:25.240 to be down with us or what you want to do. 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:27.040 And I was just like, I mean, you know, like 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:28.760 I'm doing I'm rocking, like I'm doing my thing. I 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:30.840 don't really you know what I'm saying. I just never 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:32.600 was looking for no handouts like that, you know what 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:35.160 I'm saying. But you were one of the founding members though, Yeah, 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:37.200 definitely I was started off. I started off with him, 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:39.120 but as I said, I was hooping, I was playing basketball. 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:40.720 I can't It was a time in my life where 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:43.400 I didn't have time to be like checking in and 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:45.480 be you know what I'm saying, Like I was just 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:48.440 living my life like I couldn't you know what I'm 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:49.960 saying when they started popping off. You don't want to 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:51.680 seem like you was just dead for the rod, Yeah, 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:55.480 like that's not me. For me, fresh end up hooking up. 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:58.640 Me and him just became really close friends. Like we 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:01.160 did a song before I even met him. Um, we 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:03.920 had a song with the Honey with the other hommie 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:06.560 from Chicago, and that was one of the relationship. I 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:07.880 heard his version. I was like he seemed like a 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:09.840 cool like I had never meant to do. He had 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:11.600 a chill vibe on his on his verse. I'm like, 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:15.080 once we met, we was just super cool. We just started, 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:17.520 you know, chopping it up. We did records together, and 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:19.280 then he went on the sign with Rick Ross. I 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:21.680 went on and get managed by rock Nation, and we 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:25.120 all just kept working. Then we both got a Puma deal, 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:28.400 Puma sponsorship deal, and then we just did a mixtape 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:30.720 together and we've been but he out in La right now. 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:33.360 We've been brothers ever since. He always don't hit me Now. 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:35.679 That first combo with jay Z is that immediately what happened. 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:38.400 He was like, I play some music. Uh, jay Z 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:40.760 asked me, what's your story? Like that was a I 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:44.000 was nervous. He doesn't complicated question complicated? What do you 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:48.400 want me to start? Absolutely, that's a jay Z question 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:50.320 right there. That probably tells a lot about how you 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:54.120 answer that your stories. Yeah, how did you answer it? 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:56.040 I said, I was just talking about how you know 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:58.800 how I started and you know I started playing. I'm 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:01.280 from LA. I'm from Leod, California. You know what I'm saying. 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:03.400 I used to play basketball. I got into music when 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:05.439 I was twelve. I just started trying to hit him 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:07.120 with the fact I was nervous. I ain't gonna lie. 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:08.440 I didn't know what to say. I don't know if 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:10.560 I gave him the best answer. You know what I'm saying. 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:12.520 I just said with the first thing that came to mind. 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:14.199 Was he really paying attention or was it one of 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:16.360 those things? No, Bro was really paying attention. He like 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:18.520 want some water. He was just cool, chilling. We was 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:20.600 in a little small hotel room. There wasn't no big 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:22.720 room or nothing. It was like he had the studio 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:26.280 set up in the room, Mike Dean and producer engineers there. 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:29.199 He's super cool. We were just chilling. You've seen him 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:33.439 since Oho Jay, Yeah, I saw him. He actually recognized 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:37.960 me one day. You're right, But I honestly didn't know 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:40.000 how that be. You feel me. He's so busy, he 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:41.920 got so many people talking to him to talk to him. 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:44.000 But me, I'm a type. I just wanted to show 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:46.040 you what I'm doing. Like I show you I'm working, Bro, 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:47.839 Like you know you can support me. You know what 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:49.240 I'm saying, Whatever you want to do, but me, I'm 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:51.319 gonna work so you can come holl at me. You 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:53.040 know what I'm saying later or whatever. But I'm I'm 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:54.199 gonna be working to what do you see you? What 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:56.680 do you recognize? You? Like we had the rock Nation bruns. 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:59.040 He's like he was a Beyonce. He was walking with Beyonce. 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:02.960 He like, what's up? Man? Like he was Grammy Weekend. Yeah, Grammy, 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:05.360 you know how to rock Nation Brunts. I've been there 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:08.719 like two so far. There's another one coming out. Fun 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:09.920 Do you take chicks with you when you go to 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:13.040 that kind of stuff? Nah, it's the show off a 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:15.080 little bit. Like there's a lot of girls there right 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:19.360 like you frominging with California, But you don't make like 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:22.080 like typical what's close music? You know what I'm saying? 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:24.080 How did you break out of that mode of not 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:26.280 making the stereotypical let me throw some chucks on and 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:28.839 getting for the little rud or so? I mean it's 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:34.280 a different stereotypical back to the I just think it's 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:36.120 a different time it was. You know that was then, 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:38.000 this is now. You know what I'm saying. I mean, 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:40.280 as you know, I came in with working with Tyler 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:42.760 people like I feel we was making different type of records. 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:45.600 He wasn't really following the mode of what was going on. 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:49.360 We our imagination was somewhere else in creativity. And then me, 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:52.040 I just my favorite rapper is Kanye, you know what 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:54.120 I'm saying. Like he came in a game doing different, 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:57.200 like he was different than everybody for me. So I 0:10:57.280 --> 0:10:59.440 just wanted to be soulful like you know. That's the 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:02.000 reason I start rapping, like to do so for real 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:04.200 hip hop, real music. I didn't do it get into 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:06.440 it to make club records, you know what I'm saying, 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:08.640 or a party. That's not why I do it, you 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:10.079 know what I mean? I like ya. I like a 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:11.960 lot of the young cats from the Western Nights because 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:14.520 it's like they're not feeling the pressure to get to 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:16.719 get caught up in gangs when they was younger. None 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:18.400 of that. They just y'all just did you up? No, 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:20.400 I mean, we was around it. I was surrounded by 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:22.320 all that stuff, you know, all this stuff these rappers 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:25.120 talk about. I grew up around it. I walked home 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:27.200 from school hoping I didn't have to deal with it, 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:29.280 you know what I'm ring Like, So I just I 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:31.760 just avoided it. So I'm avoided auto call together. But 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:34.200 I was influenced. You besides, Kanye because you mentioned Kanye. 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:37.640 What else besides Ky Besides Kanye, just growing up in 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:39.480 the city, you know, just trying to find a way, 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:41.480 you know what I'm saying, to make something about yourself, 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:45.160 you know, and my ambitious inspirement, you know. But another 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:49.360 you know, just movies and you know this, other artists 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:51.640 just watching the culture of the game, just seeing people 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:53.320 do things out are dope. You know what I'm saying. 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:55.520 That that inspires me. You know, like, oh, that's dope. Like, 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:57.680 you know, we gotta keep pushing the culture. We gotta 0:11:57.760 --> 0:11:59.920 keep being dope, you know what I'm saying. Like see 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:02.560 in my homies, like Kendrick Glamar come out with a 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:04.880 platinum album, you know, and that that inspired me because 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:07.360 I saw him when he was just dropping the first 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:09.760 EP and when he changed his name to Kendrick Gleamar. 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:12.040 You know what I'm saying, Like it's all before the 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:14.360 k Dot, I mean it was yeah, k dot Oka. 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:17.440 Do you feel competitive with like Ken Drake and YG 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:21.480 and Um. I mean, a healthy competition, it's all. I mean. 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:23.559 I think it's all should be friendly competition, you know 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:25.560 what I'm saying. In this business, in this in this field, 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:29.360 but that's the homie. Like I went on, he did 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:31.920 like sixty six sols around the world, Like he really 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:33.120 helped me out. You know what I'm saying. He so 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:34.880 told me love. He I don't really look at these 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:37.000 guys as competition. They all my homies, you know what 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:39.240 I'm saying. I've always been the young guns. So I've 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:40.760 just been trying to stand up for the youth, like 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:42.599 I always wanted to be the young kid speaking for 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:45.400 what we do, you know, And they all know I'm 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:47.719 going hard like no matter what, Like I ain't trying 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:49.400 to compete with nobody. I'm just playing my lane. You 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:52.320 and mcmiller still got a colose relationship. We're super cool. 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:54.400 We're not like super like we don't talk every day 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:56.360 or nothing like that. But he'd been doing this thing. 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:58.360 He was he was back in Pittsburgh and he's been 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:00.559 moving around. Yeah, hit him up last guard. He was 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:03.160 on drugs, real bad. I said, Mac, oh, my god, 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:07.000 not be on drugs the way I'm heart clear. He said, 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:08.560 he good, he said, you know, he said he'd going 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:12.360 through some things. Really good music. Thanks putting his business 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:14.920 out there like that. Mac mellerby rapping about that, he 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:18.199 don't be tripping hid it, but he said he he 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:25.480 said he good now brou recorded you sent me some 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:28.440 dope when I'll be over here. This how you really 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:31.400 be working like playing as he really go in producing 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:33.679 all that. You don't just rap. You don't just sit 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:35.520 there wait for the music to be done. Like he 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:37.760 the type to make the music himself if he has to. 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:39.880 I drop the velve relationship, like he said, he from 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:45.079 he Pitchburg. You didn't go with California before that, he 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:46.760 that was after the tour when he moved to La. 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:48.960 But he just hit me, I had dropped this album 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:50.839 called Sleeping in Class, and this album got me a 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:52.920 lot of love. Like people was hearing this album and 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:55.480 it was rocking with me, like, oh this is hope. 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:58.120 It was twelve songs, all original. I'm talking to my story. 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:00.439 I'm talking about being in school, high school, trying to 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:02.880 make it out. You know what I'm saying. It was 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:05.440 just like a dreamer album. Hit me up like, yo, 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:07.679 this album crazy, Like I want to bring you on 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:10.199 tour with me. So we did. We did like two 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:12.680 weeks first and I missed school for these two weeks 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:14.600 tour with him. We did like a West Coast run. 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:16.920 After that, He's like, Yo, this is crazy. You killed 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:19.360 the tour. He're like, man, I got another tour coming soon. 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:20.960 I'm about to drop you know, I want to bring 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:23.520 you again. And he actually called me like a couple 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:26.080 of months later, like, Yo, the tour did he pay you? Yeah? 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:28.800 I made I had to spend a lot to do it, 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:31.240 you know, IM, but I made money doing it. I learned. 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:33.560 I learned a lot like fast, Like this is why 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:36.640 when I graduated high school. So I was like three 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:40.080 weeks later, I'm gone. Probably had great exposure and how 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:42.200 to perform in front of all those audiences and just 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:45.120 saw the business. Now I see you also in a movie, dope, 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:48.480 that film festival. So what's that movie about? I know 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:50.800 a Sep Rocky's in it. Our futures in it. Um. 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:55.120 The writer of The Wood, Homie Rick wrote wrote the film, 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:57.880 and The Wood is one of my favorite movies. You 0:14:57.960 --> 0:15:01.160 know it was set in Inglewood. In this movie setting, 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:03.800 it actually setting ingle to give a sap tips because 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:06.160 he ain't from me from the hall about I mean, no, 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:08.120 he was doing this thing. He was on this on 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:11.080 his boys in the hood. But no, it's a dope movie. 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:13.280 It's basic inglewood, but it's like a different twist on it, 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:15.240 and I think a lot of the young kids are 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:18.200 gonna really connect to it. And it's a dope movie 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:20.840 for real. Recently we see in Black China and Amber 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:24.360 Rows working to your joint. Now, how did that feel? 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:27.680 That felt good? Did you hit one of them on 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:31.760 the DM? No, Casey, did you hit one of them 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:33.880 on the DM? No? I mean he can't do that 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:36.520 to Tigger. He can't do that too well, Yeah, that's disrespectful, man, 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:39.160 cool with both of them, You're really cool with both 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:41.440 of them actually, to be honest, Like me and Wiz, 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:43.440 I didn't talk to him before, Like I see him, 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:45.280 but we ain't never really worked on none of yet, 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:46.840 you know what I'm saying. Me and Tiger, I seen him, 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:49.200 We shake hands, but you know, we ain't never worked 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:51.080 on that. So your penis ain't got no loyalty to 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:56.520 them through some penis thy baby mama's way. If they 0:15:56.600 --> 0:16:00.160 bring it to you, I'm selling you know. He's he's 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:02.560 that boy. He don't need to get anybody else's check. 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:04.240 He can get his own. Yeah, but they have a 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:13.280 rolls go. You got gonna fall into that Now what 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:15.240 does that jacket being to you? Man? Because you know, 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:17.160 I like, you know all y'all gotts say, y'all not 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:19.080 trying to be competitive now. And you know, like you 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:21.280 did the movie where they said rocket you cool with everybody? 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:23.280 What does the death row bad boy? What did that 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:24.600 mean to you at the time? Did you feel like 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:27.360 you had to choose a side even at that young age? Um? No, 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:29.640 I didn't. I wasn't really like into it like all 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:34.480 the way I was young man. Yeah, little baby, but man, 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:37.160 I respect these brands, you know what I'm saying. Or culture. Man, 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:39.720 like you had to buy this check it. This is 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:41.560 like big Do you watch what's going on with that 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:43.840 little Wayne and cash money and make sure you got 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:45.440 to keep an eye on your money and what's going 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:48.280 on with your business. Yeah, I've been learning from firsthand 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:51.080 experiences then just to see other people going through different stuff. 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:53.960 It's just the industry. Man. Again, some financial issues before 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:57.840 or some I mean I ain't no, what are some things? 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:00.040 You spent a lot of money in my life, I 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:01.680 know my life, but in this last couple of years, 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:04.399