Speaker 1: This week on a Happy half Hour.
Speaker 2: Every GM dreams about having more stuff. If you've got
Speaker 2: seven picks, you want eight. If you got eight, you
Speaker 2: want ten. If you've got nine, you want twelve. So
Speaker 2: if you can load up on stuff, if you could
Speaker 2: get somewhere between eight and fifty seven, I think that's
Speaker 2: something Dan Morgan absolutely would be interested in exploring.
Speaker 3: What's up.
Speaker 1: It's time for the Happy Half Hour, presented by Southern Star,
Speaker 1: an official bourbon of the Carolina Panthers. Here are your hosts,
Speaker 1: Darren Gant and Cassidy Hill.
Speaker 2: Hello, friends, we are back again. It is Thursday, April seventeenth.
Speaker 2: We are recording. Let's call this your pre draft Bonanza
Speaker 2: episode Bonanza Bonanza.
Speaker 3: Bonanza.
Speaker 2: I mean, then, since we're celebrating, there's no other way.
Speaker 2: I mean, this episode of the Happy Half Hours, brought
Speaker 2: to you by our friends at Southern Stars, celebrate the
Speaker 2: spirit of the Carolinas. They are an official bourbon partner
Speaker 2: of your Carolina Panthers and frankly an official bourbon partner
Speaker 2: of Darren Gant. Right now, so maybe as soon.
Speaker 3: As erring is the spirit of the Carolina that's.
Speaker 2: Right, something like that, or the spirit of the Carolinas
Speaker 2: is inside of me. Here you go. No, we got
Speaker 2: a lot. It's almost party time. We are one week
Speaker 2: out from when all this goes down, yep, and we
Speaker 2: have got a lot to get through between now and then. Honestly,
Speaker 2: because it's a week out, you know, most of the
Speaker 2: mock drafts have been done, most of the work has
Speaker 2: been done. You and I have been putting stories in
Speaker 2: the can that are going to roll out days at
Speaker 2: a time in advance. And it's almost here. It's that time,
Speaker 2: and you're about to get on an airplane and go
Speaker 2: to Green Bay and be right there in the middle
Speaker 2: of it all.
Speaker 3: Yeah. It sneaks up on you every year around this
Speaker 3: time too, and this is when everything changes. For when
Speaker 3: everything can change for a team is very exciting. I've
Speaker 3: got to figure out since we are getting on a
Speaker 3: plane on Wednesday, Uh, the team returns on Monday, you know,
Speaker 3: off season programs kind of begin. I've got to figure
Speaker 3: out when I'm gonna fit in my annual viewing of
Speaker 3: draft day. You know, it's not really the draft time
Speaker 3: until Kevin Costner writes on a post it note, so
Speaker 3: it's also Easter weekend, you know, it's it's gonna be
Speaker 3: a busy time, but that's really important.
Speaker 2: Yeah, mixing Easter ends always tricky.
Speaker 3: I've got who planned that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got deviled eggs to make before this weekend
Speaker 2: gets here. But uh, you're a big devil egg person.
Speaker 3: By the way, I'm a big devil degg person. But
Speaker 3: I don't like it when people put a lot of
Speaker 3: mustard in theirs.
Speaker 2: You know, I think deviled egg might be my number
Speaker 2: one pick in the Easter food draft.
Speaker 3: Really, yeah, I can see that because it goes along
Speaker 3: with the whole egg thing too. Ham if done right,
Speaker 3: is good, but it can be done wrong really really easily.
Speaker 3: You know, we used I think we've usually have like
Speaker 3: baked beans, potato salad, macaroni, and cheese, but deviled eggs
Speaker 3: are definitely up there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm definitely going deviled egg number one. I might
Speaker 2: trade up to acquire deviled egg, and I might trade
Speaker 2: down to acquire even more. My wife asked me the
Speaker 2: other day, she said, how many devil eggs you plan
Speaker 2: on making? I was like, well, two dozen. She said,
Speaker 2: so like a dozen eggs and I said, no eggs.
Speaker 3: So that's forty eight deviled egg that's correct. I can
Speaker 3: do that math, I can do.
Speaker 2: Devil people are gonna be at your mom's house and man,
Speaker 2: I am nine or ten something like that, small gathering
Speaker 2: and uh and she was like, so four or five,
Speaker 2: and I said, don't I need deviled eggs to be
Speaker 2: left over? I just yeah, I'm sitting here like Scrooge
Speaker 2: McDuck in my pool of gold.
Speaker 3: You don't want them left over too much, though.
Speaker 2: Find two dozen deviled eggs at a time. So anyway,
Speaker 2: we should talk about football, because this is a football podcast.
Speaker 2: That's what they tell me. Yeah, you can you do
Speaker 2: anything we wanted to make you have got Uh. So
Speaker 2: you made this a tradition of watching Draft egg before
Speaker 2: every draft day.
Speaker 3: It didn't really like I didn't mean for it to
Speaker 3: become a tradition. It just kind of did. Like I
Speaker 3: realized I was watching it because usually it'll be on
Speaker 3: TV around draft time as well. And then one year
Speaker 3: I couldn't find it on TV or I missed it,
Speaker 3: and I couldn't find it on a streaming service. So
Speaker 3: I bought it on DVD. And now the past like
Speaker 3: two or three years, I've made sure to watch it
Speaker 3: usually that Wednesday night, the night before the draft. It
Speaker 3: just gets me excited. It gets me pumped because, like,
Speaker 3: I know, the Draft more than anything is like a
Speaker 3: TV event at this point, but it is still like
Speaker 3: fun to kind of get into it and to you know,
Speaker 3: imagine what's actually going on in the rooms. I always
Speaker 3: want like I would love to be a fly on
Speaker 3: the wall in those rooms and find out, you know
Speaker 3: how many times each year there is really like a
Speaker 3: and David Putney just for the heck of it, like
Speaker 3: one of those moments it's have you ever seen the
Speaker 3: get and give me David Putney just for the heck
Speaker 3: of it moment. I'm paraphrasing because there's certain words I
Speaker 3: feel like we get fined for saving saying.
Speaker 2: I feel like I am culturally aware of this movie
Speaker 2: without ever ha having sat through the entire day.
Speaker 3: You've never watched Draft Day.
Speaker 2: Not intentionally. I mean I'm aware of the premise. I
Speaker 2: know how I know the build up and trust me,
Speaker 2: we we got Scott Fitterer to hold up the post
Speaker 2: it note in the palm of his hand that sip
Speaker 2: Rice Young the other year, So we've done all.
Speaker 3: That, Darren. It is. It is cheesy. It puts a
Speaker 3: Hollywood spin on football, there's an unnecessary love story. It
Speaker 3: is a fantastic movie.
Speaker 2: Wow, it's I don't know, maybe, And there are.
Speaker 3: So many like cultural references that can be made around
Speaker 3: draft time to the movie, like and I do appreciate
Speaker 3: too that, like they didn't make up teams, like everybody
Speaker 3: in the NFL was completely on board with being it's
Speaker 3: really an NFL vehicle. But because everybody was on board,
Speaker 3: Like they filmed scenes at the actual draft, and you know,
Speaker 3: it's the commissioner, what, it's Roder Goodell walking out to
Speaker 3: read a name. And there's also just a moment in
Speaker 3: there where you just remind yourself that every year at
Speaker 3: the draft, this is somebody's life on dream coming true.
Speaker 2: Well, and that's the key, and a lot's going to
Speaker 2: change for these individuals and teams in particular, because we,
Speaker 2: you know, we're gonna do all the build up. We
Speaker 2: have been doing the build up. I was joking with
Speaker 2: some friends on a local radio station earlier this week.
Speaker 2: I said, you know, maybe just maybe we've started too soon.
Speaker 2: When we start doing mock drafts around Thanksgiving Thanksgiving, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's probably a little early when we start thinking about
Speaker 2: draft position, because it it does, I mean you always
Speaker 2: watch draft day, I always try to go into a
Speaker 2: dark room with no input whatsoever and just kind of
Speaker 2: vege for five minutes because I feel like I've been
Speaker 2: swimming in the school for the last four months. But
Speaker 2: but anyway, I mean, it's just with all of that
Speaker 2: build up, there is an excitement, and I think for
Speaker 2: the Carolina Panthers, there's the realization that they have an
Speaker 2: opportunity coming up this week to really change this football
Speaker 2: team for the better. They've got nine to picks right
Speaker 2: in the first five rounds, including that sweet, sweet number
Speaker 2: eight spot that gives them a lot of opportunities. I mean,
Speaker 2: there's been a lot of talk about this player, that player,
Speaker 2: but when you just look at having eight picks in
Speaker 2: the first five rounds for a team that's looking to
Speaker 2: build on the talent and make those big strides on
Speaker 2: defense and continue to develop the roster as a whole,
Speaker 2: I think this weekend's big, big opportunity.
Speaker 3: Anytime you have a top ten pick, that's a potential
Speaker 3: franchise chasing pick, because you either are getting a top
Speaker 3: ten talent or you're trading back and you're getting a
Speaker 3: lot of picks to build your team around. So you
Speaker 3: can really kind of control your own destiny when you're
Speaker 3: sitting there with a top ten pick, especially when you
Speaker 3: have units that are as deep as they are this
Speaker 3: year and you've got so many teams ahead of you
Speaker 3: that have very specific needs. That kind of puts you
Speaker 3: in a really really good position if you're the Panthers
Speaker 3: at number eight overall and knowing what you.
Speaker 2: Need right And listen that Derek Carr news last week
Speaker 2: when the Saints find out they're starting quarterbacks got a
Speaker 2: shoulder injury that may or may not preclude him from
Speaker 2: beginning this season or being able to play, depending on
Speaker 2: whether he needs surgery or not. It's kind of gone
Speaker 2: dark since that's an early word that's you know, put
Speaker 2: the Saints on everybody's radar in terms of quarterback. And
Speaker 2: you know, if you if you're in the top ten
Speaker 2: or if you're on the fringes of the top ten
Speaker 2: and you want to get a guy and everybody knows it,
Speaker 2: then they're probably going to be calling Dan Morgan to
Speaker 2: see what aids worth to them. And you know, I
Speaker 2: think there are a lot of there are a lot
Speaker 2: of defensive players that they like, and we've talked about
Speaker 2: a lot of them at length here and abroad. Jalen
Speaker 2: Walker's name is attached to the Carolina Panthers impractically every
Speaker 2: mock draft, and there reason for that. Jalen Walker's really
Speaker 2: good in football, and it would be and it would
Speaker 2: be pretty easy to imagine him slotting right in here
Speaker 2: for his hometown team. He grew up right up the
Speaker 2: road in Salisbury. Cheerwine's not a sponsor, but will make
Speaker 2: an exception for one day to get Salisbury in the house.
Speaker 2: But I just think that if it's him, that may
Speaker 2: makes a lot of sense. But there's a lot of
Speaker 2: different ways this could go. When we talked to Dan
Speaker 2: earlier this week at his annual pre draft press conference,
Speaker 2: which is an exercise in trying to say anything revelatory.
Speaker 3: Which he did very well at.
Speaker 2: He did a great job. He did a great job.
Speaker 2: He got asked a lot, though about the idea of
Speaker 2: trading back, and as tempting as that top ten impact
Speaker 2: player is, the idea of adding more stuff is appealing
Speaker 2: because through deals that were made before he became general manager,
Speaker 2: the Panthers got a big gap between eight and fifty seven,
Speaker 2: a thirty ninth pick that would have been theirs is
Speaker 2: still with Chicago. That's the remnant of the Bryce Young trade,
Speaker 2: the last thing that's hanging out there, you know, keeping
Speaker 2: them from being hold. But they did get a late
Speaker 2: second from the Rams in a trade last year, So
Speaker 2: you know, I think it's natural and every GM dreams
Speaker 2: about having more stuff. If you've got seven picks, you
Speaker 2: want eight. If you got eight, you want ten. If
Speaker 2: you've got nine, you want twelve. So if you can
Speaker 2: load up falling stuff, if you could get somewhere between
Speaker 2: eight and fifty seven, I think that's something Dan Morgan
Speaker 2: absolutely would be interested in exploring.
Speaker 3: And he bought himself a lot of flexibility with what
Speaker 3: they did in free agency, and he also has a
Speaker 3: little bit of flexibility considering again kind of just going
Speaker 3: back to this, considering what their positions of need are
Speaker 3: and how deep those particular classes are in this year's draft.
Speaker 3: You know, yes, you want the top ten pick. And
Speaker 3: if you're sitting there, you know, I think he said,
Speaker 3: if we're there, like, obviously we're gonna we're gonna take
Speaker 3: somebody that's gonna be great. You've got you've still got
Speaker 3: that game changing talent that you could maybe get in
Speaker 3: the late teens the twenties with this particular ad rushing class,
Speaker 3: maybe even with this like safety class, this the trenches,
Speaker 3: like you've got some flexibility with this particular class, and
Speaker 3: how it's unfolding this year, which may not be the
Speaker 3: case next year.
Speaker 2: Right, And again, pass rushers are always a scarce commodity.
Speaker 2: And if you're the Carolina Panthers, yes, you've got dj
Speaker 2: Wanam Patrick Jones signed this offseason, Davin Clowney is still here.
Speaker 2: You've got people if you have a chance to add
Speaker 2: impact to that, that's something every you know, those those
Speaker 2: guys get picked high for a reason. I still remember
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago there was a pass rusher
Speaker 2: that they had their eyes on. They thought they were
Speaker 2: going to try to trade up into the late twenties
Speaker 2: and get and he went, and he went in the
Speaker 2: middle of the first round. He went about ten twelve
Speaker 2: spots higher than they were talking about trading to get
Speaker 2: to to select him. So it's it's always valued commodity.
Speaker 2: It will be again. But with so many guys at
Speaker 2: that position this year, that makes this kind of a
Speaker 2: rare draft. And it makes that idea of Okay, what
Speaker 2: if we're picking sixteenth, what if we're picking twentieth. What
Speaker 2: if we're picking twenty first, You know, can you still
Speaker 2: get guys that help this team? And I think with
Speaker 2: the makeup of this year's draft, the answer to that
Speaker 2: should be yes.
Speaker 3: What's gonna They're gonna have to be careful with those
Speaker 3: two is when you have a position like that, there
Speaker 3: are times that those players can be very scheme dependent.
Speaker 3: You know, this defense runs a three four, which means
Speaker 3: you can also usually drop into a four to three
Speaker 3: like you've You've gotta make sure that you're not And
Speaker 3: Dan Morgan knows this, he's not I'm not telling him anything.
Speaker 3: He doesn't know. You can't just grab an outside linebacker.
Speaker 3: You're gonna need to grab, you know, somebody that might
Speaker 3: could be, you know, a stand up or it's not
Speaker 3: necessarily going to be a hand in the ground guy,
Speaker 3: although those exist too, And maybe it is. If you're
Speaker 3: gonna get a hand in the ground guy, that kind
Speaker 3: of changes what your defense is gonna look like. There
Speaker 3: is some scheme dependency that is still there within that.
Speaker 2: Class, Yeah, no doubt. And I think even with that,
Speaker 2: you just got to think about impact. I mean, when
Speaker 2: you when you're thinking about the Carolina Panthers defense Right now,
Speaker 2: you're not thinking good thoughts because it was thirty second
Speaker 2: in all the categories. Last year. Gave up a league
Speaker 2: record all time league record points allowed, second most yards allowed,
Speaker 2: third most rush yards allowed. What they need is people
Speaker 2: who are good at playing defensive football. This guy right here,
Speaker 2: Derek Brown, he needs friends. This is the theater of
Speaker 2: the mind is happening right here. We've got Derek Brown
Speaker 2: on a stick here in the podcast studio, and uh,
Speaker 2: once we put this bad boy on video, you'll be
Speaker 2: able to see all my friends. We've got props and
Speaker 2: we're gonna use them. Uh, But Derek Brown needs help.
Speaker 2: Jac Horn needs help. You've got a couple of guys
Speaker 2: there and those two who are those culture builders? Who
Speaker 2: are those guys who set the tone for the entire defense?
Speaker 2: Now you need somebody at that second level, somebody who
Speaker 2: is that you know, choose your football cliche of preference
Speaker 2: war daddy, you know, whatever happens to be. That was.
Speaker 2: That was one that our friend Dave Canalis used down
Speaker 2: at the UH and I just did the Dave Canalis
Speaker 2: on a stick. If you're imaginings, which you should be,
Speaker 2: I'm having fun with this anytime you've got an opportunity
Speaker 2: to have Derek Brown on a stick, you should. But
Speaker 2: they need guys who can help create a new culture
Speaker 2: on that defense and they there's a story I'm in
Speaker 2: the middle of writing right now that'll go up on
Speaker 2: Panthers dot Com later this afternoon. The way they built
Speaker 2: the offensive line over the last couple of years kind
Speaker 2: of informs what they ought to be doing or want
Speaker 2: to be doing with defense, which is, you put money
Speaker 2: in it at a certain point to raise the level.
Speaker 2: Then you're able to kind of fix a piece or
Speaker 2: two at a time by saying, Okay, we know we've
Speaker 2: got to find a guy who's better than this guy,
Speaker 2: or if we're trying to do this, is there anybody
Speaker 2: who's better than this guy? So I think getting to
Speaker 2: that point on defense is going to be easier because
Speaker 2: there aren't enough of those guys to go around. But J. C. Horn,
Speaker 2: Dereck Brown need a friend. They need somebody to create
Speaker 2: a little pressure to help set the to for what
Speaker 2: needs to be a significant.
Speaker 3: Turnaround, and he could take a couple of years, No doubt,
Speaker 3: it will take a couple of years. So even with
Speaker 3: the top ten pick, you're not gonna change an entire defense.
Speaker 2: Well, this was not a one year fix, and it
Speaker 2: never was going to be. I don't think anybody had
Speaker 2: that illusion when Dave Canalis Stan Morgan took over a
Speaker 2: year ago, and and to see the kind of progress
Speaker 2: I mean when Dave was talking down at the owners
Speaker 2: meeting and he said, listen to what we saw out
Speaker 2: of these guys second half of the year was enough
Speaker 2: to make us think there's something to build on. So
Speaker 2: you know, that's why there's been a lot of clamoring
Speaker 2: for target for Bryce and where's your Bryce, Where's my Bryce?
Speaker 2: Here's my Bryce? Would bright would Bryce like a big
Speaker 2: pass catching target in the first round? Sure he would.
Speaker 2: Would Bryce like to have somebody like a big old
Speaker 2: six foot four volleyball playing Ted McMillan, who's a go
Speaker 2: fetch that's right? He was, Uh, he is a big
Speaker 2: up and go get it guy was at Arizona and
Speaker 2: I could they use one of those guys? Of course
Speaker 2: they could. And if the right defensive player is not
Speaker 2: there and they don't trade down or something, I think
Speaker 2: that's a very real possibility at number eight. But I
Speaker 2: just keep coming back to that defense, and I keep
Speaker 2: thinking about Hey, how not great it was last year.
Speaker 2: When you give up six hundred or when you give
Speaker 2: up six straight games to close the year of over
Speaker 2: two hundred rushing yards allowed, that speaks to a problem.
Speaker 2: And you know, they did the things in free agency.
Speaker 2: They added linemen, they added Pat Jones, but they still
Speaker 2: need dudes, and so we'll see, we'll see how that goes.
Speaker 3: Do you do mock drafts to kind of figure out
Speaker 3: where you think it's gonna lie.
Speaker 2: I do. I think I'm like everybody else. I've been
Speaker 2: looking at mock drafts, thinking about mock drafts, mocking mock
Speaker 2: drafts for a long time. There seems to be some
Speaker 2: degree of consensus when you look at the way this
Speaker 2: top ten of this draft's gonna go. I think there's
Speaker 2: a general expectation at this point the Camlord is going
Speaker 2: to be the number one pick going to Tennessee. Then
Speaker 2: you've got your Travis Hunters, your Abdul Carter's many many
Speaker 2: people believe that the New England Patriots love Will Campbell.
Speaker 3: I mean they need to tackle the tackle from Ellens.
Speaker 3: They need to tackle.
Speaker 2: Many people believe that he's a Mike Vrabel kind of guy.
Speaker 2: So that kind of blocks in those four And as
Speaker 2: you go through this thing, you hear all the same names.
Speaker 2: I mean, you're hearing that Jacksonville. I mean, Jacksonville's got
Speaker 2: a brand new GM, brand new head coach. So there's
Speaker 2: a little bit of mystery. But that GM came from
Speaker 2: the Rams. So how do the Rams do business? They've
Speaker 2: generally the last couple of years found impact players in
Speaker 2: the defensive front seven. Yeah, when they've got premium picks.
Speaker 2: So maybe the jet edguiers go with Mason Graham the
Speaker 2: big defensive one. Right, I can see that Michigan. I
Speaker 2: mean that is that has become the conventional wisdom. Okay,
Speaker 2: now you get the five and here comes the Raiders,
Speaker 2: you know, and everybody wants to give them a running
Speaker 2: back or maybe a tackle, you know. And there's Genti,
Speaker 2: there's Bimbo Can.
Speaker 3: I'll see he's a quarterback.
Speaker 2: They could use a lot of things. But you know,
Speaker 2: I think that as you go through this thing, there's
Speaker 2: a consensus of at least at first five and what
Speaker 2: happens in spots six seven is going to have a
Speaker 2: huge impact on what happens here. Because we were talking
Speaker 2: about Jalen Walker earlier, and there's been a ton of
Speaker 2: conversation about Jalen Walker here in Charlotte for the last
Speaker 2: little bit. Other teams like him too, you know. And
Speaker 2: so if the Jacksonmouth Jaguars decide to build that defensive
Speaker 2: front seven around a guy like that instead of a
Speaker 2: defensive tackle, then maybe Mason Graham comes into play. If
Speaker 2: the Raiders see the opportunity to find a guy like
Speaker 2: that to put with Max Crosby, it's like, oh wow, okay,
Speaker 2: imagine what that could be like. And so while Walker
Speaker 2: has become the object of fascination for so many people, boll,
Speaker 2: I don't know that we can safely assume that he's
Speaker 2: absolutely there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point. He could be off the
Speaker 3: board already. And then you you really can kind of
Speaker 3: look at my beat, maybe trading back and dip it
Speaker 3: into a much bigger bucket, or like you said, going
Speaker 3: after one of those receivers somebody. We did a video
Speaker 3: last week with Trevor Second, the draft analysts from PFF.
Speaker 3: He put a name on my radar that I had,
Speaker 3: I had heard of, and I'd looked at, but I'd
Speaker 3: not looked at closely until he said it. And it's
Speaker 3: as Arakku from Boston College.
Speaker 2: I I was gonna say, Donovan say his last name
Speaker 2: as Arakku.
Speaker 3: He was second in the FBS last year, was sixteen
Speaker 3: and a half sacks. I mean, that's what we don't
Speaker 3: think about Boston College much unless it's really kind of
Speaker 3: in relation to Luke Keigley.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I think about Boston College defensive
Speaker 2: players quite.
Speaker 3: Often unless but this is a guy that's before he's big.
Speaker 3: He could stand to put on about fifteen to twenty pounds.
Speaker 3: That's something you know, you get around here with a
Speaker 3: bunch of Bojangles and that can happen a little bit easier.
Speaker 3: He counts stand to put on a little way. But
Speaker 3: he's tall, he's lengthy, he has he has a killer
Speaker 3: swim move, and clearly it works. He's getting in the
Speaker 3: backfield sixteen and a half times.
Speaker 2: No doubt. And there are a lot of those guys
Speaker 2: in this year's draft. I mean, when you're talking about
Speaker 2: you know, Dan talked the other day about liking production.
Speaker 2: I mean, and I think one of the things that
Speaker 2: amuses me that we do as a media is we
Speaker 2: take the most innocuous press conference of the year and
Speaker 2: try to extrapolate it into oh that means.
Speaker 3: You know what's funny is when he said that, I
Speaker 3: did extravulate it, and I started thinking about who he
Speaker 3: could be talking about, right, I mean, you loo get
Speaker 3: a guy like Shamar Stewart who has so much promise
Speaker 3: but so little production, right.
Speaker 2: I mean, Shamar Stewart's got all the testing numbers you'd
Speaker 2: ever want to see in a defensive end outside linebacker,
Speaker 2: but he had three sacks in three years, right, And
Speaker 2: that's not a lot. So I just think when Dan said, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: obviously you prefer guys who have had that kind of production.
Speaker 2: You know, I think people some people were probably crossing
Speaker 2: names off the list. I think that's probably premature because
Speaker 2: if you get to a certain level. You know this
Speaker 2: still when when my friend Dave Canalis here likes to
Speaker 2: talk about this team, he uses the word developmental an
Speaker 2: awful lot and they're good coaches here, you know, on
Speaker 2: the defensive side of the ball, on a Varro's staff,
Speaker 2: And I mean Dom Capers is like the godfather of
Speaker 2: three four outside linebackers. He was here with Lamar Lathan
Speaker 2: and Kevin Green and had a lot of success in
Speaker 2: a lot of places with a lot of different guys.
Speaker 2: So could they coach up somebody who had those kind
Speaker 2: of measurables into that player. I like their chances, but yeah,
Speaker 2: I would caution people against reading too much into any
Speaker 2: particular thing that falls out of a GM's mouth.
Speaker 3: It's also important to remember they could be measuring production
Speaker 3: different than we do. We're gonna look at a stat sheet,
Speaker 3: it's just in our nature. But these guys are watching
Speaker 3: hours upon hours of tape and again, and not just
Speaker 3: to narrow in on one guy, but for an example,
Speaker 3: Shamar Stewart. So he sent over and over turn on
Speaker 3: the tape. You'll see how I affected the game, even
Speaker 3: if I didn't get a sack. And so you know,
Speaker 3: what is the what is Jero Evro and Dan Morgan
Speaker 3: considering production that maybe a box score is not. And
Speaker 3: so you know that's something to keep in mind as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be so so much. And again we're
Speaker 2: gonna get locked in. We're going to talk about that
Speaker 2: first pick an awful lot. Having those two picks on
Speaker 2: Friday fifty seven and seventy four give them an opportunity
Speaker 2: to add guys to this team who can make a difference.
Speaker 2: I think if if it goes if it goes defense early,
Speaker 2: I think there's a reasonable expectation they're still in the
Speaker 2: market for wide receiver. Yeah, and that second third round area,
Speaker 2: one of those fourths is probably the shelf where you
Speaker 2: want to go get a guy like that. So we'll
Speaker 2: see how all this develops. But it's gonna be a lot,
Speaker 2: and I want everybody to stay tuned the amount of
Speaker 2: stuff we've got planned, the amount of stuff that's coming.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have our live draft show day of the draft.
Speaker 2: Check the Panthers YouTube channel. Checkpanthers dot com for that.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have written pieces throughout the next seven days.
Speaker 2: By the way, it's Jason Baker days away from the draft.
Speaker 2: You're familiar with Jason.
Speaker 3: Baker, right, I feel like I need to be.
Speaker 2: Jason Baker was, of course the punter for your Carolina
Speaker 2: Panthers in the UH late two thousand's, the late oughts
Speaker 2: to about a l Yeah, from the late adds to eleven.
Speaker 2: He's the record holder for most punts in franchise history
Speaker 2: and was part of one of the great trades in
Speaker 2: Panthers history. He was he was one of two things
Speaker 2: acquired for one sour brind so when they finally got
Speaker 2: tat out of here, but it's yeah, it's all coming.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have it covered Panthers dot Com, our YouTube channel, uh,
Speaker 2: throughout the day, We're just gonna reach this point. You
Speaker 2: know what you do, You watch Draft Day every year
Speaker 2: to get ready for this. I practice not sleeping because
Speaker 2: these are long.
Speaker 3: You need just sleep to get your energy out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, these are long days, and they're days full of content.
Speaker 2: But it's the exciting time of year because the next
Speaker 2: time we join you here on the Happy half hour,
Speaker 2: this team's gonna look a lot different. Yeah, we are
Speaker 2: gonna have a lot more to talk about. So until then, friends,
Speaker 2: watch your Draft Day, mock your mock drafts, and we'll
Speaker 2: see you in a week.