WEBVTT - Happy Half Hour Episode 153: Pre Draft Bonanza 0:00:01.120 --> 0:00:03.680 This week on a Happy half Hour. 0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:07.600 Every GM dreams about having more stuff. If you've got 0:00:07.640 --> 0:00:09.680 seven picks, you want eight. If you got eight, you 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:12.000 want ten. If you've got nine, you want twelve. So 0:00:13.000 --> 0:00:15.880 if you can load up on stuff, if you could 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:18.720 get somewhere between eight and fifty seven, I think that's 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:21.680 something Dan Morgan absolutely would be interested in exploring. 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:22.720 What's up. 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:31.000 It's time for the Happy Half Hour, presented by Southern Star, 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:37.360 an official bourbon of the Carolina Panthers. Here are your hosts, 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:39.920 Darren Gant and Cassidy Hill. 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:48.320 Hello, friends, we are back again. It is Thursday, April seventeenth. 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:52.640 We are recording. Let's call this your pre draft Bonanza 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:55.720 episode Bonanza Bonanza. 0:00:56.680 --> 0:00:57.320 Bonanza. 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:00.200 I mean, then, since we're celebrating, there's no other way. 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:02.680 I mean, this episode of the Happy Half Hours, brought 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:05.520 to you by our friends at Southern Stars, celebrate the 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:08.240 spirit of the Carolinas. They are an official bourbon partner 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:11.600 of your Carolina Panthers and frankly an official bourbon partner 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:13.959 of Darren Gant. Right now, so maybe as soon. 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:16.640 As erring is the spirit of the Carolina that's. 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:19.080 Right, something like that, or the spirit of the Carolinas 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:22.520 is inside of me. Here you go. No, we got 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:25.399 a lot. It's almost party time. We are one week 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:27.760 out from when all this goes down, yep, and we 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:31.880 have got a lot to get through between now and then. Honestly, 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:35.200 because it's a week out, you know, most of the 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:37.479 mock drafts have been done, most of the work has 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:39.280 been done. You and I have been putting stories in 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:40.959 the can that are going to roll out days at 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:44.479 a time in advance. And it's almost here. It's that time, 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:46.120 and you're about to get on an airplane and go 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:48.080 to Green Bay and be right there in the middle 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:48.480 of it all. 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:51.920 Yeah. It sneaks up on you every year around this 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:56.360 time too, and this is when everything changes. For when 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:59.440 everything can change for a team is very exciting. I've 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:01.200 got to figure out since we are getting on a 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:06.240 plane on Wednesday, Uh, the team returns on Monday, you know, 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:09.079 off season programs kind of begin. I've got to figure 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:11.520 out when I'm gonna fit in my annual viewing of 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:14.600 draft day. You know, it's not really the draft time 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:17.600 until Kevin Costner writes on a post it note, so 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:21.600 it's also Easter weekend, you know, it's it's gonna be 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:23.520 a busy time, but that's really important. 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:26.240 Yeah, mixing Easter ends always tricky. 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:27.720 I've got who planned that. 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:30.440 Yeah, I've got deviled eggs to make before this weekend 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:33.280 gets here. But uh, you're a big devil egg person. 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:34.959 By the way, I'm a big devil degg person. But 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:36.400 I don't like it when people put a lot of 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:37.360 mustard in theirs. 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:40.480 You know, I think deviled egg might be my number 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:42.680 one pick in the Easter food draft. 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:46.640 Really, yeah, I can see that because it goes along 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:50.320 with the whole egg thing too. Ham if done right, 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:52.960 is good, but it can be done wrong really really easily. 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:56.840 You know, we used I think we've usually have like 0:02:57.040 --> 0:03:02.839 baked beans, potato salad, macaroni, and cheese, but deviled eggs 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:03.880 are definitely up there. 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:06.520 Yeah, I'm definitely going deviled egg number one. I might 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:09.560 trade up to acquire deviled egg, and I might trade 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:11.960 down to acquire even more. My wife asked me the 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:13.720 other day, she said, how many devil eggs you plan 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:16.520 on making? I was like, well, two dozen. She said, 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:21.200 so like a dozen eggs and I said, no eggs. 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:23.720 So that's forty eight deviled egg that's correct. I can 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:24.840 do that math, I can do. 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:28.000 Devil people are gonna be at your mom's house and man, 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:30.919 I am nine or ten something like that, small gathering 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:33.600 and uh and she was like, so four or five, 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:35.840 and I said, don't I need deviled eggs to be 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:38.720 left over? I just yeah, I'm sitting here like Scrooge 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:40.240 McDuck in my pool of gold. 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:42.480 You don't want them left over too much, though. 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:46.000 Find two dozen deviled eggs at a time. So anyway, 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:48.880 we should talk about football, because this is a football podcast. 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:51.720 That's what they tell me. Yeah, you can you do 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:54.240 anything we wanted to make you have got Uh. So 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:57.600 you made this a tradition of watching Draft egg before 0:03:57.640 --> 0:03:58.400 every draft day. 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:00.600 It didn't really like I didn't mean for it to 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:02.920 become a tradition. It just kind of did. Like I 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:05.320 realized I was watching it because usually it'll be on 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:08.960 TV around draft time as well. And then one year 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:10.720 I couldn't find it on TV or I missed it, 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:12.480 and I couldn't find it on a streaming service. So 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:16.000 I bought it on DVD. And now the past like 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:18.600 two or three years, I've made sure to watch it 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:21.039 usually that Wednesday night, the night before the draft. It 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:23.440 just gets me excited. It gets me pumped because, like, 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:25.400 I know, the Draft more than anything is like a 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:29.440 TV event at this point, but it is still like 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:32.560 fun to kind of get into it and to you know, 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:35.240 imagine what's actually going on in the rooms. I always 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:37.479 want like I would love to be a fly on 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:39.200 the wall in those rooms and find out, you know 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:41.479 how many times each year there is really like a 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:46.000 and David Putney just for the heck of it, like 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:48.720 one of those moments it's have you ever seen the 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:51.040 get and give me David Putney just for the heck 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:54.600 of it moment. I'm paraphrasing because there's certain words I 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:56.559 feel like we get fined for saving saying. 0:04:56.720 --> 0:04:59.320 I feel like I am culturally aware of this movie 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:01.440 without ever ha having sat through the entire day. 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:03.440 You've never watched Draft Day. 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:06.040 Not intentionally. I mean I'm aware of the premise. I 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:08.440 know how I know the build up and trust me, 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:11.919 we we got Scott Fitterer to hold up the post 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:13.640 it note in the palm of his hand that sip 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:16.719 Rice Young the other year, So we've done all. 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:21.080 That, Darren. It is. It is cheesy. It puts a 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:26.200 Hollywood spin on football, there's an unnecessary love story. It 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:27.839 is a fantastic movie. 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:31.760 Wow, it's I don't know, maybe, And there are. 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:35.520 So many like cultural references that can be made around 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:38.680 draft time to the movie, like and I do appreciate 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:42.200 too that, like they didn't make up teams, like everybody 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:45.239 in the NFL was completely on board with being it's 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:49.360 really an NFL vehicle. But because everybody was on board, 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:53.040 Like they filmed scenes at the actual draft, and you know, 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:56.000 it's the commissioner, what, it's Roder Goodell walking out to 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:58.720 read a name. And there's also just a moment in 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:00.680 there where you just remind yourself that every year at 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:03.000 the draft, this is somebody's life on dream coming true. 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:05.640 Well, and that's the key, and a lot's going to 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:09.159 change for these individuals and teams in particular, because we, 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:12.120 you know, we're gonna do all the build up. We 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:14.040 have been doing the build up. I was joking with 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:16.719 some friends on a local radio station earlier this week. 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:20.240 I said, you know, maybe just maybe we've started too soon. 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:24.680 When we start doing mock drafts around Thanksgiving Thanksgiving, Yeah, 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:27.719 that's probably a little early when we start thinking about 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:31.240 draft position, because it it does, I mean you always 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:34.320 watch draft day, I always try to go into a 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:37.400 dark room with no input whatsoever and just kind of 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:39.760 vege for five minutes because I feel like I've been 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:43.840 swimming in the school for the last four months. But 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:47.480 but anyway, I mean, it's just with all of that 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:50.039 build up, there is an excitement, and I think for 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:53.400 the Carolina Panthers, there's the realization that they have an 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:58.159 opportunity coming up this week to really change this football 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:00.760 team for the better. They've got nine to picks right 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:03.640 in the first five rounds, including that sweet, sweet number 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:06.760 eight spot that gives them a lot of opportunities. I mean, 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:09.320 there's been a lot of talk about this player, that player, 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:12.120 but when you just look at having eight picks in 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:14.760 the first five rounds for a team that's looking to 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:17.400 build on the talent and make those big strides on 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:21.600 defense and continue to develop the roster as a whole, 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:24.720 I think this weekend's big, big opportunity. 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:27.800 Anytime you have a top ten pick, that's a potential 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:30.560 franchise chasing pick, because you either are getting a top 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:34.080 ten talent or you're trading back and you're getting a 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:36.680 lot of picks to build your team around. So you 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:38.880 can really kind of control your own destiny when you're 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:42.360 sitting there with a top ten pick, especially when you 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:45.400 have units that are as deep as they are this 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:48.320 year and you've got so many teams ahead of you 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:51.680 that have very specific needs. That kind of puts you 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:53.840 in a really really good position if you're the Panthers 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:55.600 at number eight overall and knowing what you. 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:59.080 Need right And listen that Derek Carr news last week 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:02.160 when the Saints find out they're starting quarterbacks got a 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:04.600 shoulder injury that may or may not preclude him from 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:08.240 beginning this season or being able to play, depending on 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:10.120 whether he needs surgery or not. It's kind of gone 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:13.040 dark since that's an early word that's you know, put 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:15.680 the Saints on everybody's radar in terms of quarterback. And 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:18.000 you know, if you if you're in the top ten 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:19.760 or if you're on the fringes of the top ten 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:22.160 and you want to get a guy and everybody knows it, 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:24.720 then they're probably going to be calling Dan Morgan to 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:27.200 see what aids worth to them. And you know, I 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:29.240 think there are a lot of there are a lot 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:32.160 of defensive players that they like, and we've talked about 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:35.040 a lot of them at length here and abroad. Jalen 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:38.440 Walker's name is attached to the Carolina Panthers impractically every 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:41.440 mock draft, and there reason for that. Jalen Walker's really 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:45.080 good in football, and it would be and it would 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:47.600 be pretty easy to imagine him slotting right in here 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:49.599 for his hometown team. He grew up right up the 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:53.040 road in Salisbury. Cheerwine's not a sponsor, but will make 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:56.439 an exception for one day to get Salisbury in the house. 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:59.920 But I just think that if it's him, that may 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:01.480 makes a lot of sense. But there's a lot of 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:03.680 different ways this could go. When we talked to Dan 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:06.559 earlier this week at his annual pre draft press conference, 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:12.480 which is an exercise in trying to say anything revelatory. 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:13.199 Which he did very well at. 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:16.120 He did a great job. He did a great job. 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:18.640 He got asked a lot, though about the idea of 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:21.800 trading back, and as tempting as that top ten impact 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:25.439 player is, the idea of adding more stuff is appealing 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:29.680 because through deals that were made before he became general manager, 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:32.760 the Panthers got a big gap between eight and fifty seven, 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:35.439 a thirty ninth pick that would have been theirs is 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:39.040 still with Chicago. That's the remnant of the Bryce Young trade, 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:42.280 the last thing that's hanging out there, you know, keeping 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:44.079 them from being hold. But they did get a late 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:46.640 second from the Rams in a trade last year, So 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:50.960 you know, I think it's natural and every GM dreams 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:53.800 about having more stuff. If you've got seven picks, you 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:55.800 want eight. If you got eight, you want ten. If 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:59.040 you've got nine, you want twelve. So if you can 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:02.600 load up falling stuff, if you could get somewhere between 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:05.120 eight and fifty seven, I think that's something Dan Morgan 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:07.120 absolutely would be interested in exploring. 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:09.440 And he bought himself a lot of flexibility with what 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:13.120 they did in free agency, and he also has a 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:15.800 little bit of flexibility considering again kind of just going 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:18.520 back to this, considering what their positions of need are 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:22.200 and how deep those particular classes are in this year's draft. 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:24.760 You know, yes, you want the top ten pick. And 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:27.440 if you're sitting there, you know, I think he said, 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:29.840 if we're there, like, obviously we're gonna we're gonna take 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:34.560 somebody that's gonna be great. You've got you've still got 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:37.840 that game changing talent that you could maybe get in 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:42.120 the late teens the twenties with this particular ad rushing class, 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:47.600 maybe even with this like safety class, this the trenches, 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:51.880 like you've got some flexibility with this particular class, and 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:54.120 how it's unfolding this year, which may not be the 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:54.840 case next year. 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:58.839 Right, And again, pass rushers are always a scarce commodity. 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:01.560 And if you're the Carolina Panthers, yes, you've got dj 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:06.080 Wanam Patrick Jones signed this offseason, Davin Clowney is still here. 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:08.840 You've got people if you have a chance to add 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:12.120 impact to that, that's something every you know, those those 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:15.120 guys get picked high for a reason. I still remember 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:17.400 a couple of years ago there was a pass rusher 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:19.680 that they had their eyes on. They thought they were 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:21.840 going to try to trade up into the late twenties 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:23.960 and get and he went, and he went in the 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:26.640 middle of the first round. He went about ten twelve 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:29.240 spots higher than they were talking about trading to get 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:34.840 to to select him. So it's it's always valued commodity. 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:36.920 It will be again. But with so many guys at 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:39.319 that position this year, that makes this kind of a 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:42.120 rare draft. And it makes that idea of Okay, what 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:45.880 if we're picking sixteenth, what if we're picking twentieth. What 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:48.520 if we're picking twenty first, You know, can you still 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:50.640 get guys that help this team? And I think with 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:53.520 the makeup of this year's draft, the answer to that 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:54.320 should be yes. 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:57.200 What's gonna They're gonna have to be careful with those 0:11:57.200 --> 0:12:00.319 two is when you have a position like that, there 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:03.480 are times that those players can be very scheme dependent. 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:07.960 You know, this defense runs a three four, which means 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:10.280 you can also usually drop into a four to three 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:14.560 like you've You've gotta make sure that you're not And 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:16.800 Dan Morgan knows this, he's not I'm not telling him anything. 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:22.600 He doesn't know. You can't just grab an outside linebacker. 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:25.839 You're gonna need to grab, you know, somebody that might 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:30.400 could be, you know, a stand up or it's not 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:32.120 necessarily going to be a hand in the ground guy, 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:35.120 although those exist too, And maybe it is. If you're 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:36.719 gonna get a hand in the ground guy, that kind 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:40.720 of changes what your defense is gonna look like. There 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:43.719 is some scheme dependency that is still there within that. 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:47.200 Class, Yeah, no doubt. And I think even with that, 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:49.600 you just got to think about impact. I mean, when 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:52.800 you when you're thinking about the Carolina Panthers defense Right now, 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:55.679 you're not thinking good thoughts because it was thirty second 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:58.680 in all the categories. Last year. Gave up a league 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:02.640 record all time league record points allowed, second most yards allowed, 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:05.440 third most rush yards allowed. What they need is people 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:08.640 who are good at playing defensive football. This guy right here, 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:15.440 Derek Brown, he needs friends. This is the theater of 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:18.720 the mind is happening right here. We've got Derek Brown 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:21.680 on a stick here in the podcast studio, and uh, 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:23.960 once we put this bad boy on video, you'll be 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:26.480 able to see all my friends. We've got props and 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:29.480 we're gonna use them. Uh, But Derek Brown needs help. 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:32.439 Jac Horn needs help. You've got a couple of guys 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:35.680 there and those two who are those culture builders? Who 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:38.320 are those guys who set the tone for the entire defense? 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:41.400 Now you need somebody at that second level, somebody who 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:45.199 is that you know, choose your football cliche of preference 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:48.560 war daddy, you know, whatever happens to be. That was. 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:53.320 That was one that our friend Dave Canalis used down 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:55.760 at the UH and I just did the Dave Canalis 0:13:55.760 --> 0:14:01.040 on a stick. If you're imaginings, which you should be, 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:03.800 I'm having fun with this anytime you've got an opportunity 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:07.400 to have Derek Brown on a stick, you should. But 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:11.720 they need guys who can help create a new culture 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:14.920 on that defense and they there's a story I'm in 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:16.920 the middle of writing right now that'll go up on 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:20.320 Panthers dot Com later this afternoon. The way they built 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:23.520 the offensive line over the last couple of years kind 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:26.640 of informs what they ought to be doing or want 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:30.120 to be doing with defense, which is, you put money 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:32.800 in it at a certain point to raise the level. 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:35.480 Then you're able to kind of fix a piece or 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:38.240 two at a time by saying, Okay, we know we've 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:40.240 got to find a guy who's better than this guy, 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:43.560 or if we're trying to do this, is there anybody 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:46.680 who's better than this guy? So I think getting to 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:49.160 that point on defense is going to be easier because 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:54.040 there aren't enough of those guys to go around. But J. C. Horn, 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:57.680 Dereck Brown need a friend. They need somebody to create 0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:00.760 a little pressure to help set the to for what 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:02.880 needs to be a significant. 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:04.960 Turnaround, and he could take a couple of years, No doubt, 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:07.600 it will take a couple of years. So even with 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:10.360 the top ten pick, you're not gonna change an entire defense. 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:12.880 Well, this was not a one year fix, and it 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:15.200 never was going to be. I don't think anybody had 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:18.160 that illusion when Dave Canalis Stan Morgan took over a 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:21.320 year ago, and and to see the kind of progress 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:23.720 I mean when Dave was talking down at the owners 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:27.200 meeting and he said, listen to what we saw out 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:29.440 of these guys second half of the year was enough 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:32.160 to make us think there's something to build on. So 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:36.000 you know, that's why there's been a lot of clamoring 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:41.520 for target for Bryce and where's your Bryce, Where's my Bryce? 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:45.160 Here's my Bryce? Would bright would Bryce like a big 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:48.200 pass catching target in the first round? Sure he would. 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:51.680 Would Bryce like to have somebody like a big old 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:54.480 six foot four volleyball playing Ted McMillan, who's a go 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:59.520 fetch that's right? He was, Uh, he is a big 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:02.760 up and go get it guy was at Arizona and 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:05.640 I could they use one of those guys? Of course 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:08.680 they could. And if the right defensive player is not 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:11.040 there and they don't trade down or something, I think 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:14.920 that's a very real possibility at number eight. But I 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:17.320 just keep coming back to that defense, and I keep 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:22.280 thinking about Hey, how not great it was last year. 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:24.560 When you give up six hundred or when you give 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:26.600 up six straight games to close the year of over 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:29.840 two hundred rushing yards allowed, that speaks to a problem. 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:33.200 And you know, they did the things in free agency. 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:37.640 They added linemen, they added Pat Jones, but they still 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:40.800 need dudes, and so we'll see, we'll see how that goes. 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:44.000 Do you do mock drafts to kind of figure out 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:45.400 where you think it's gonna lie. 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:49.080 I do. I think I'm like everybody else. I've been 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:52.840 looking at mock drafts, thinking about mock drafts, mocking mock 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:56.400 drafts for a long time. There seems to be some 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:59.120 degree of consensus when you look at the way this 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:02.960 top ten of this draft's gonna go. I think there's 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:06.399 a general expectation at this point the Camlord is going 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:09.240 to be the number one pick going to Tennessee. Then 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:13.639 you've got your Travis Hunters, your Abdul Carter's many many 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:17.000 people believe that the New England Patriots love Will Campbell. 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:19.800 I mean they need to tackle the tackle from Ellens. 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:20.800 They need to tackle. 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:24.160 Many people believe that he's a Mike Vrabel kind of guy. 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:28.320 So that kind of blocks in those four And as 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:31.359 you go through this thing, you hear all the same names. 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:34.840 I mean, you're hearing that Jacksonville. I mean, Jacksonville's got 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:37.000 a brand new GM, brand new head coach. So there's 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:39.280 a little bit of mystery. But that GM came from 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:42.560 the Rams. So how do the Rams do business? They've 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:45.359 generally the last couple of years found impact players in 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:48.159 the defensive front seven. Yeah, when they've got premium picks. 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:51.520 So maybe the jet edguiers go with Mason Graham the 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:54.199 big defensive one. Right, I can see that Michigan. I 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:57.600 mean that is that has become the conventional wisdom. Okay, 0:17:57.640 --> 0:17:59.840 now you get the five and here comes the Raiders, 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:02.359 you know, and everybody wants to give them a running 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:05.320 back or maybe a tackle, you know. And there's Genti, 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:07.280 there's Bimbo Can. 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:08.320 I'll see he's a quarterback. 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:11.600 They could use a lot of things. But you know, 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:14.280 I think that as you go through this thing, there's 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:17.840 a consensus of at least at first five and what 0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:22.399 happens in spots six seven is going to have a 0:18:22.480 --> 0:18:25.640 huge impact on what happens here. Because we were talking 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:28.280 about Jalen Walker earlier, and there's been a ton of 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:31.800 conversation about Jalen Walker here in Charlotte for the last 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:36.240 little bit. Other teams like him too, you know. And 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:39.840 so if the Jacksonmouth Jaguars decide to build that defensive 0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:42.719 front seven around a guy like that instead of a 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:46.560 defensive tackle, then maybe Mason Graham comes into play. If 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:50.439 the Raiders see the opportunity to find a guy like 0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:53.280 that to put with Max Crosby, it's like, oh wow, okay, 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:57.399 imagine what that could be like. And so while Walker 0:18:57.480 --> 0:19:00.240 has become the object of fascination for so many people, boll, 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:02.480 I don't know that we can safely assume that he's 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:03.520 absolutely there. 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:06.280 Yeah, that's a good point. He could be off the 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:09.199 board already. And then you you really can kind of 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:11.199 look at my beat, maybe trading back and dip it 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:13.720 into a much bigger bucket, or like you said, going 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:18.720 after one of those receivers somebody. We did a video 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:21.720 last week with Trevor Second, the draft analysts from PFF. 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:24.120 He put a name on my radar that I had, 0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:26.080 I had heard of, and I'd looked at, but I'd 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:28.680 not looked at closely until he said it. And it's 0:19:28.720 --> 0:19:30.400 as Arakku from Boston College. 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:33.239 I I was gonna say, Donovan say his last name 0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:33.840 as Arakku. 0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:37.000 He was second in the FBS last year, was sixteen 0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:40.200 and a half sacks. I mean, that's what we don't 0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:42.560 think about Boston College much unless it's really kind of 0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:43.679 in relation to Luke Keigley. 0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:46.280 I was gonna say, I think about Boston College defensive 0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:47.120 players quite. 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:51.439 Often unless but this is a guy that's before he's big. 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:54.160