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Speaker 1: You are held accountable at all times, and therefore you

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Speaker 1: And as a result, you have these units. You have

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Speaker 1: That is the major crisis we have right now, among others.

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Speaker 1: But it explains so much. We have an accountability crisis

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Speaker 1: Righteous strike. There was no perists, there was no ISIS individuals,

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Speaker 5: Do you have regrets about their withdrawal or how the

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Speaker 1: I don't have any regrets, No regrets. Thirteen warriors will

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Speaker 1: Some of the craziness. Why did you never consider doing that?

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Speaker 1: It's not outside their own possibility. It's just not.

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Speaker 9: And the people who are in charge of protecting Donald

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Speaker 9: that's kind of how it goes, like, that's not the

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Speaker 1: way to put that. Where are we now? Joining me now,

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Speaker 1: my friend Jack Pasobic, author of the book Unhumans, some

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Speaker 1: really wonderful communist history. That book highly highly recommended. Jack Well,

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Speaker 10: Now we're living under a new type of system, and

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Speaker 10: Right exactly so the people, by the way, who even

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Speaker 10: We're getting conflicting stories, conflicting information. When you ask basic questions,

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Speaker 10: what do you mean, you don't know the guns right there.

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Speaker 10: And more importantly, the questions about the massive gaping Swiss

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Speaker 1: Jack accountability or lack their of what's the connection there

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Speaker 10: With lack of accountability that's how you get the Bolsheviks.

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Speaker 10: By the way, the entire media is going after JD.

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Speaker 10: And by the way, this started with Denesh Desuza when

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Speaker 10: Barack Obama that the Obama administration didn't like. Don't tell

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Speaker 1: One hundred percent true, Jack, my brother, as always, thank you.

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Speaker 1: The book is on humans, go pick it up. Iighly

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Speaker 1: recommend it. It's an outstanding book. Something I echo. I

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Speaker 1: want to talk about accountability. I've said you will know

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Speaker 1: We must have a reckoning, and you can call it vengeance.

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Speaker 1: That's fine. I'm not going to lie to you. I

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Speaker 5: We certainly have that, Jesse, There's no question, And I

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Speaker 5: in power like Tony Fachi for forty years with way

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Speaker 5: too much power over what the scientific community thought public health,

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Speaker 5: with far too much power, with no checks and balances.

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Speaker 5: It's I think the idea of America, which is, you know,

435
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Speaker 5: checks and balances, the rule of law. No one no

436
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Speaker 5: one has, no one as above, no one can can

437
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Speaker 5: like garner part of them, no one as king if

438
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Speaker 5: we put back the idea of America into public health.

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Speaker 1: That's how we gain trust back. Let's talk about social

440
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Speaker 1: distancing and how these lies turn into rules that this

441
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Speaker 1: video is always bothering me here. It is.

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Speaker 11: The initial recommendation that the CDC brought to the White House,

443
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Speaker 11: and I talk about this was ten feet, and a

444
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Speaker 11: political appointing in a White House said, we can't recommend

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Speaker 11: ten feet. Nobody can measure ten feet. It's inoperable. Society

446
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Speaker 11: will shut down. So the compromise was around six.

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Speaker 1: So it's it's while watching how these people discuss these

448
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Speaker 1: things now, as if they're kind of unimportant, just little guidelines.

449
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Speaker 1: They all do this falluci does it. They all do

450
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Speaker 1: it as if it's well, we had to decide and

451
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Speaker 1: we couldn't decide here, and it really wasn't a big deal.

452
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Speaker 1: But these things destroyed lives, These things altered lies, probably

453
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Speaker 1: ended lies, if we're being honest about it. And yet

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Speaker 1: all the people who did these things are just so

455
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Speaker 1: flippant about it. Now. It drives me up the wall.

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Speaker 5: It does me too, I mean, it drives me crazy.

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Speaker 5: I mean to think about this because there was no

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Speaker 5: science behind the distance, none, Right, if this is a

459
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Speaker 5: virus that's spreads by aerosols, Jesse, You don't. You could

460
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Speaker 5: be five million feet from me if we just happen

461
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Speaker 5: to be in the same you know, you breathe in

462
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Speaker 5: the same room, and then I later, a month later,

463
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Speaker 5: a week later, come in that same room, I could

464
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Speaker 5: get the virus from you. Right, So the six foot

465
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Speaker 5: distancing made absolutely no sense. There was no science behind it,

466
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Speaker 5: and yet and you're absolutely right, what it did is

467
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Speaker 5: it crushed our society. Schools could not open with desks

468
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Speaker 5: six feet apart, because how many kids can you fit

469
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Speaker 5: in a room with if you have all on um

470
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Speaker 5: to say, six feet apart. We essentially told, we, meaning

471
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Speaker 5: public health, told the world that we should treat our

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Speaker 5: neighbor as biohazards, fundamentally violating our ethical principles that we

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Speaker 5: have to treat each other as a human beings, to

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Speaker 5: that that that we care and love for each other.

475
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Speaker 5: I love our neighbor as ourselves, right, No, but instead

476
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Speaker 5: you treat your neighbor as a biohazard. That's what that

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Speaker 5: six feet meant, And there was no science behind it,

478
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Speaker 5: and it's it's it's powerful. The kinds of things tools

479
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Speaker 5: that public health has as its disposal Jesse, right, we

480
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Speaker 5: it can hijack our basic human empathy and turn us

481
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Speaker 5: against each other, and so it absolutely needs checks and

482
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Speaker 5: balances at it's center. It's one of these things where

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Speaker 5: like I do still believe in the necessity of public health,

484
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Speaker 5: has said sanitation, a whole bunch of things that public

485
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Speaker 5: health does that keeps us healthier. But it should be

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Speaker 5: consistent with our values, our fundamental values of liberty, fundamental

487
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Speaker 5: values of good government, of governance that doesn't impose on us.

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Speaker 5: The public health should never have ruled on us. They

489
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Speaker 5: should always be a servant of the people, and it

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Speaker 5: was the opposite during the pandemic.

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Speaker 1: Doctor, how does you say this was not based on science?

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Speaker 1: But how does something that's not based on science become

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Speaker 1: so accepted in the highest levels of science and then

494
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Speaker 1: after that they become public policy? Meaning what's the genesis

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Speaker 1: of all this? Where did all this began? Is it

496
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Speaker 1: some dirty human being who wants to destroy society just

497
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Speaker 1: comes up with a number and decides to pass it along.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't make sense to me. I don't understand how

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Speaker 1: crazy concepts not based in science become the rule for

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Speaker 1: a country of three hundred and thirty million people.

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Speaker 5: Can you explain that process to me? Yeah, I'll try, Jesse.

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Speaker 5: I wish I had a full answer, because I don't

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Speaker 5: have a full answer. But I'll tell you what I think.

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Speaker 5: I don't think it's a single one person, you know,

505
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Speaker 5: doctor evil or whatever. I think what happens is that

506
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Speaker 5: you have an event, you have really a catastrophic event,

507
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Speaker 5: like you have a virus that is spreading around, very

508
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Speaker 5: likely as a result of dangerous scientific experiments.

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Speaker 1: Right, And if you're let me do an analogy. Right.

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Speaker 1: So I was a medical student once.

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Speaker 5: I was a third year medical student once since the

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Speaker 5: year when you first start to see patients, and as

513
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Speaker 5: a third year medical student, you often don't know a lot,

514
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Speaker 5: and you have a patient in front of you who

515
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Speaker 5: are asking you important questions about their health. And as

516
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Speaker 5: a third year medical student, you have to resist the

517
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Speaker 5: urge to lie about what you know in order to

518
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Speaker 5: make the patient happy. Right, Because you want to be

519
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Speaker 5: honest with the patient, you have to learn to say, Okay,

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Speaker 5: I don't know to the patient, and I'll go try

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Speaker 5: to find out. I'll try to figure out what the

522
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Speaker 5: right answer is. I'll go ask other people who know more.

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Speaker 5: But a lot of third year medical students have difficulty

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Speaker 5: with that. They pretend to knowledge they don't have. That's

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Speaker 5: what happened during this pandemic with some of the very

526
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Speaker 5: highest people in public health. They had no idea about

527
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Speaker 5: the harms that they're not. They're not in a sense.

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Speaker 5: You saw Francis Collins, the head of the ni AH,

529
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Speaker 5: give it a talk where he says, look, I was

530
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Speaker 5: just I just cared about COVID.

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Speaker 1: I didn't.

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Speaker 5: I wasn't thinking about all the harms to the children,

533
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Speaker 5: to the poor people, to the working class from these

534
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Speaker 5: things because it wasn't my job right, and that means

535
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Speaker 5: that that person should not have been in charge of

536
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Speaker 5: those decisions. We need people there to understand how societies

537
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Speaker 5: actually work like that, to to care about the poorest

538
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Speaker 5: people in the society, to care about our children. And

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Speaker 5: the way that you'd get that is by radical decentralization

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Speaker 5: and radical a radical sort of democratization, if you will,

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Speaker 5: of public health. It's too imperious and it's it's not

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Speaker 5: it's not consistent with American values. That's why I think,

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Speaker 5: I like, I think the idea of America, you know that,

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Speaker 5: which is this idea of of you know, we are

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Speaker 5: we are all essentially rulers of this country. We are

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Speaker 5: all we have the checks and balances, The government has

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Speaker 5: limited set of powers. I think that idea would make

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Speaker 5: public health better. And I think the problem is that

549
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Speaker 5: public health thinks is of itself essentially, has thought of

550
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Speaker 5: itself essentially as rulers, as kings and without And if

551
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Speaker 5: you anyone, anyone inside the scientific community that pushes back,

552
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Speaker 5: I mean, you get destroyed. I can tell you from

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Speaker 5: firsthand experience. And the other thing I'd say is that

554
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Speaker 5: once you have this fear, all these other entity start

555
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Speaker 5: piling on. You get like pharmaceutical companies like taking advantage.

556
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Speaker 5: You get like all these other people with like their

557
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Speaker 5: own agendas taking advantage of it. I think it's that

558
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Speaker 5: mix of like people pretending you knowledge they didn't have,

559
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Speaker 5: creating panic, and then a whole bunch of like opportunistic

560
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Speaker 5: nonsense happening.

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Speaker 1: What is that doctor, you're you're a doctor, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: Just as we wrap this up here, is that is

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Speaker 1: that our doctor is more inclined towards arrogance. Not that

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Speaker 1: I'm blasting away at doctors, but you are more educated

565
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Speaker 1: than most people. You know, a lot of things that

566
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Speaker 1: a lot of people know or is it an arrogance thing?

567
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Speaker 1: Is that what it is?

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Speaker 5: It's a kind of God complex it is. It's arrogance

569
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Speaker 5: is the right word for it, right, you know? And

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Speaker 5: I think it's it's public health that during the pandemic

571
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Speaker 5: kind of had this. They thought that they could control

572
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Speaker 5: the minutest actions of society and they and you know,

573
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Speaker 5: no one can, No one has that knowledge, no one

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Speaker 5: has that right. And I think we need changes in

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Speaker 5: our public health structures, laws. You know, everyone should ask

576
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Speaker 5: their the guy running for dogcatcher, would they ever lock

577
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Speaker 5: down again? Like you know, from the top to the

578
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Speaker 5: bottom of our political structures. We should the political the

579
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Speaker 5: folks we elect should know that we won't stand for it,

580
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Speaker 5: and we won't elect them if they if they are

581
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Speaker 5: going to violate our rights in that way, and they

582
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Speaker 5: should be asked that every single time, in every single

583
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Speaker 5: election until until finally that we have the laws and

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Speaker 5: place that prevent from happening again.

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Speaker 1: I think that it's going to take concerted political action.

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Speaker 5: I thought naively early on that it would just be

587
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Speaker 5: scientists could fix this, but I don't anymore, Jesse, and

588
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Speaker 5: I think it's going to take a real political action

589
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Speaker 5: to fix it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think you're right, doctor Jake, Doctor, you are

591
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Speaker 1: the best of my brother. Come back soon please. All right, Well,

592
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Speaker 1: it's not just the medical community that lacks accountability. The

593
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Speaker 1: military is in bad, bad shape when it comes to this.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about that. Next. What what of

595
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Speaker 1: American blowdown?

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Speaker 2: Everybody?

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Speaker 6: I want to talk about two things.

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Speaker 1: First, Afghanistan. Wow that every time I watch videos of

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Speaker 1: Generals Biden, Kamala Harris after Afghanistan, it just makes my

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Speaker 1: blood pressure go through the roof. They were all so

601
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Speaker 1: just kind of flippant and uncaring about the whole freaking thing.

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Speaker 1: Joining me now, Brad Miller, retired colonel US Army. Kate

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Speaker 1: Monroe retired to retired United States Marine Corps. What I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about sempify all right, Brad, let's begin with you.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't funny. It was aggravating beyond belief to watch

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Speaker 1: them put our people in harm's way, watch our young

607
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Speaker 1: men and women die, and then watch what we did

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Speaker 1: in respect responds to that. And what blew me away

609
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Speaker 1: was not necessarily the dirtball politicians, but the generals. Where

610
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Speaker 1: are the resignations. Where are the people resigning and disgrace?

611
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Speaker 1: Where are they? It's a great question.

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Speaker 7: I think the key word here is accountability, and that

613
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Speaker 7: there has been none. So I think you raised a

614
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Speaker 7: great question is that how can Americans, whether they are

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Speaker 7: service members, whether they are veterans, whether they're the family

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Speaker 7: of service members or veterans, or whether just Americans in general,

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Speaker 7: how can Americans look at our generals and our admirals

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Speaker 7: and actually think that these individuals are making the best

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Speaker 7: decisions for our military and for our national interests.

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Speaker 1: Apparently, I don't know what happens once you get a

621
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Speaker 1: star put on your shoulders anymore. Kate, You know what

622
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Speaker 1: I remember I talked about this at the beginning of

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Speaker 1: the show. As a very young, very average marine, accountability

624
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Speaker 1: was everything for us. If you didn't have enough socks

625
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Speaker 1: in your pack, you were held accountable for it. If

626
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Speaker 1: one of your guys didn't have his toothbrush in order,

627
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Speaker 1: you were held accountable for it. That's what it's like

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Speaker 1: for the men and women on the ground. But apparently

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Speaker 1: once you get promoted above six, that just goes away. Now, yeah, I.

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Speaker 8: Mean, apparently you can be in American politics and be

631
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Speaker 8: all the way up in the White House and have

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Speaker 8: no accountability. It's not just Afghanistan. Look at the border,

633
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Speaker 8: look at homeless as looks. Look what has happened to

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Speaker 8: veterans on account of all these migrants, Look at the assassination.

635
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Speaker 8: No one wants to take any accountability, period And it's

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Speaker 8: an epidemic that we have in our leadership here in

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Speaker 8: our country.

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Speaker 1: No doubt. I remember when John Kirby, Brad Remember when

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Speaker 1: John Kirby got up he said this after we've drowne

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Speaker 1: strike six children.

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Speaker 12: What I can tell you is we looked at this

642
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Speaker 12: thing very, very comprehensively, and again we acknowledge that there

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Speaker 12: were procedural breakdowns, processes were not executed the way they

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Speaker 12: should have been, but it doesn't necessarily indicate that an

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Speaker 12: individual or individuals have to be held to account for that.

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Speaker 6: But look, this is more discipline inside the Pentagon at all.

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Speaker 1: I mean, maybe they're no charge just brought up, but

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Speaker 1: is anyone demoted or disciplined for what happened?

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Speaker 12: Then what we are going to do. There's not going

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Speaker 12: to be individual discipline as a result of this, really,

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Speaker 12: but what we are going to do is learn from

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Speaker 12: this and We're going to enact and improve our procedures

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Speaker 12: in our processes to try to make sure this doesn't

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Speaker 12: happen again.

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Speaker 1: We're going to learn from this like a child eating

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Speaker 1: paste in preschool. What does that mean exactly, Brad, a

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Speaker 1: failure of process. But nobody's getting fired or reprimanded. Who

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Speaker 1: is process? Can we meet him? So here's what that means.

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Speaker 7: That is a euphemism for we are going to do nothing,

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Speaker 7: but we are going to tell you that we are

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Speaker 7: going to do something to improve our processes. I mean,

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Speaker 7: this is just extremely wishy washy language. As he said,

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Speaker 7: there will be no personal discipline.

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Speaker 1: And here's the thing.

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Speaker 7: Accountability can look a lot of different ways depending on

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Speaker 7: the offense that has been committed. So of course there

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Speaker 7: can be charges that are filed, but there are other

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Speaker 7: ways in which discipline can be achieved that don't necessarily

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Speaker 7: result in criminal charges.

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Speaker 1: The problem is when you know nothing is done.

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Speaker 7: So I think at the outset you mentioned that I

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Speaker 7: was a retired colonel. I actually resigned as a lieutenant colonel,

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Speaker 7: but I spent nineteen years in the army, and before that,

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Speaker 7: you know, four years at West Point, and just like

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Speaker 7: you mentioned a couple of minutes ago.

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Speaker 1: Accountability was everything. I mean, that was.

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Speaker 7: Something that I learned very early on in my first

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Speaker 7: days as a cadet at west Point. But somewhere along

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Speaker 7: the way, as an institution, we have completely abandoned the

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Speaker 7: necessity or the practice of accountability.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe they ruined west Point too. What a

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Speaker 1: freaking revered place. What was it like at west Point?

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Speaker 1: Was it cool? I could never have gotten in or

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Speaker 1: been an officer at all, because I'm not smart enough.

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Speaker 1: But was it cool being there? I'll tell you this.

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Speaker 7: And I don't know how I got in. There's probably

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Speaker 7: some other Brad Miller out there and they accidentally, you know,

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Speaker 7: sent me the acceptance letter that was meant for him.

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Speaker 1: But I will tell you this. So I was in

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Speaker 1: my junior year at.

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Speaker 7: West Point when nine to eleven occurred, and so as

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Speaker 7: great as an institution as the institution was before nine

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Speaker 7: to eleven, that place changed from one day to the

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Speaker 7: next at nine to eleven, because even though it was

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Speaker 7: a revered institution, don't get me wrong, but on nine

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Speaker 7: to eleven, everything that we were doing became so much

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Speaker 7: more real, right, and everyone knew.

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Speaker 1: I mean, by nine to twelve.

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Speaker 7: We all knew that we were going to graduate and

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Speaker 7: we were all going to go to war, and of

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Speaker 7: course that happened. You know, I graduated in two thousand

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Speaker 7: and three, all my classmates, myself, I mean, we all

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Speaker 7: went to war. It was just what was going to

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Speaker 7: happen at that time period. And so what happens now

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Speaker 7: when we look back twenty years later and we look

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Speaker 7: at where our military has been over the last two decades,

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Speaker 7: and we just had to ask ourselves, what has happened

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Speaker 7: to our institution and why are the individuals who are

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Speaker 7: at the top of the institution allowing it to just

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Speaker 7: go down the drain or perhaps driving it down the

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Speaker 7: drain deliberately.

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Speaker 1: I remember, like it was yesterday watching that in the

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Speaker 1: barracks room, and it did. It became real in that moment.

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Speaker 10: Kay.

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Speaker 1: We have a recruiting problem, a huge recruiting problem. And

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Speaker 1: if you break it down demographically, it's white rural males

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Speaker 1: who are not joining anymore. The other recruiting number is

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Speaker 1: actually fairly stable. But that's been a huge chunk of

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Speaker 1: the American military and they're checking out Kate, and once again,

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Speaker 1: there's no accountability for this. Nobody's owning up to it,

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Speaker 1: and I talked to these officers. I get all kinds

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Speaker 1: of private info from guys who were in. They're not

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Speaker 1: even discussing the real reasons why people aren't joining. It's

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Speaker 1: not even on the table for discussion.

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Speaker 8: Well, there's so many reasons. I've actually written many op

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Speaker 8: eds about it. I talked to Admiral X Walker, in

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Speaker 8: charge of you naval recruiting. There's many reasons, but lack

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Speaker 8: of patriotism being one of them. There is also a

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Speaker 8: high level of assaults in my generation. I was assaulted

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Speaker 8: when I was in the Marine Corps, and then a

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Speaker 8: lot of those things are never taken care of either VA.

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Speaker 8: So you have a whole generation of parents telling their kids, hey,

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Speaker 8: you're not safe in the military. You also just have

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Speaker 8: a bunch of DEI and wokeism and liberalism that has

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Speaker 8: crept into these institutions, and these kids don't want to serve.

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Speaker 8: And it's interesting to note that the Marine Corps is

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Speaker 8: not having a recruiting crisis. Have they slipped a little

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Speaker 8: bit of their sprit de corps? Certainly they have, but

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Speaker 8: they have maintained most of it. And you will see

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Speaker 8: kids that normally would go into the Air Force, into

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Speaker 8: the Army, into the Navy, going into the Marine Corps,

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Speaker 8: because that is what they're looking for to be in

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Speaker 8: the real military. That's why I think the Marines are

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Speaker 8: leading the charge on recruiting. But we're sort of at

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Speaker 8: an event horizon here. If we don't turn back and

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Speaker 8: fix this is a very scary situation.

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Speaker 1: It really is, Brad Kate, both of you. Appreciate you

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Speaker 1: very much. Thank you. Guys. All Right, we're not done.

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Speaker 1: Let's still have a little bit more I got. We

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Speaker 1: have to get back to being a country that's accountable.

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Speaker 1: We the voters have to be better about holding our

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Speaker 1: politicians accountable. The politicians we elect have to be better

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Speaker 1: about holding bureaucrats accountable. We have to get back to

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Speaker 1: being a country where you own your mistakes, admit your mistakes,

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Speaker 1: even take punishment for your mistakes. Otherwise we become a

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Speaker 1: nation that is just built onlies. That's why they lie

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Speaker 1: about everything. Now, and we can't go on like this

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Speaker 1: at all. Let's dig in and get back to where

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Speaker 1: we should be. We'll do it again