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Speaker 1: grew up with him. Yeah, Kobe, you know what gravitated

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Speaker 1: he just the way he played. And I think when

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Speaker 1: If you don't know a lot about basketball, but you

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Speaker 1: you're gonna see Kobe. If you happen to know a

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Speaker 1: it's like on all phases, you like Kobe. And again

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Speaker 1: for me, it was like I grew up loving basketball

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Speaker 1: The crazy thing about it is one of my boys,

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Speaker 1: remember I'm opening it up for questions, like I'm two

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Speaker 1: It It was almost like a clinic in performance and

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Speaker 1: What was the room like that meeting like, because we've

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Speaker 1: seen clips of it, but that went off for a

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Speaker 1: the fact that you were a Kobe fan when before

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Speaker 1: it's just iconic. You know, he's a legend. He's on

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Speaker 1: nine victims, Kobe Bryant, Gianna Bryant, John Alta, Belly carry

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Speaker 1: Out to Belly, A list out to Belly, Christina Mauser,

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