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Speaker 1: This is the Reformed Sports Project, a podcast about restoring

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Speaker 1: healthy balance and perspective in all areas of sports through

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Speaker 1: education and advocacy. Hi, this is Nick Bonacoor from the

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Speaker 1: Reform Sports Project podcast. My guest today is Eric Crescy,

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Speaker 1: director of Player Health and Performance for the New York

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Speaker 1: Highly sought after performance coach, accomplished author, and world class powerlifter.

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Speaker 1: Eric train's athletes of all levels from youth sports to

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Speaker 1: professional ranks, specializing in applied kinesiology and biometrics. Eric and

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Speaker 1: fail at a young age. Man, I got another awesome guest.

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Speaker 1: He is someone I've been chasing around a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I've been following his work for some time. Guys, you know,

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Speaker 1: a great point, man, And uh, you know, to kind

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Speaker 1: it as I mentioned before. You know, you just mentioned

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Speaker 1: not having you hover over them, right, the helicopter or

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Speaker 1: is it so important to let the kids struggle more importantly,

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Speaker 1: and in the long term it's the right thing to do. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's to complex assortment of you know, things that need

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Speaker 1: you need to step back. And you know, one of

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Speaker 1: up for scenarios where they can fail without consequences. I mean,

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Speaker 1: out when they go to squad like that's that's not

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Speaker 1: we do in an athletic round, that's how we learned.

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Speaker 1: So I always emphasize that the successes in the struggle,

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Speaker 1: Mike Traft the best baseball player on the planet, he

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Speaker 1: You know, we have we have you know, lead cion

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Speaker 1: someone who's never struggled who's you know, had smooth sailing

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Speaker 1: these high school kids can just mow down competition. You know,

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Speaker 1: throw fastballs by everybody. And then you get to Pro

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Speaker 1: that will lead secondary offerings, and all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: that that fastball just gets back at even harder than

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Speaker 1: you threw it um and they don't know how to

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Speaker 1: handle that struggle. And that's why you see mental skills

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Speaker 1: in sports. Were failures everywhere, and it happens every single day.

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Speaker 1: I know that your you know, your time is very valuable.

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Speaker 1: I can't think enough. You get my brain going, man,

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Speaker 1: and I love you know, your energy, your passion, your expertise.

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Speaker 1: People are gonna want to find out more about you,

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Speaker 1: your content. Know, you're authored, You've written a ton of

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Speaker 1: Where can they find you? What's the best space they

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Speaker 1: can come and find your research? Yeah, for sure. My

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Speaker 1: website is kind of my help for everything, gainst Eric

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Speaker 1: Crescy dot com. And in particular, I would in mind

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Speaker 1: of the conversation we've had, is I directed into my podcast.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot of conversations starting the baseball community, interviews

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Speaker 1: with you know, pro guys and you know and you

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Speaker 1: know folks from the coaching world and all that stuff,

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Speaker 1: and any particular My episode seventy five is titled does

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Speaker 1: early Sports Specialization Work? It's about a three minute episode's

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Speaker 1: relatively quick, um, you know, kind of listen, but it

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Speaker 1: highlights literally all the research that we have, particularly with

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Speaker 1: respective baseball on you know, and how early specialization plays out.

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Speaker 1: Actually looks a lot of Latin American players where specialization

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Speaker 1: is you know, astronomically hired because it's really the only

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Speaker 1: opportunity to have. Um So that would be a good

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Speaker 1: one to check out. Air press. You're not common then

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Speaker 1: on social media at aer Cresty for both Twitter and Instagram, dude,

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Speaker 1: I can't thank you enough for coming on sharing your wisdom.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have to do this again, but truly appreciate

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Speaker 1: your work and man, I just can't thank you know

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Speaker 1: for sharing. This meant my pleasure. Thanks so much. That's

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Speaker 1: Ri Crest, director of Player Health and Performance for the

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Speaker 1: New York Yankees. Thanks for listening to the Reform Sports

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Speaker 1: Project podcast Dominic Boncourt and Our goal is to restore

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