1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. All right, it's our three of Clay 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: and Buck right now, everybody, thanks for being here. Clay 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: on vacation today going with his boys to a Yankee game. 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take you through this third hour. Well, it's 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: gonna go buy in a flask because we've got a 7 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: lot to talk about. Ryan Gurdusky, friend of the show, 8 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: author of the National Populist newsletter on Substack. He's going 9 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: to be with us at the bottom of the hour, 10 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: So coming up in a little bit to talk about 11 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: there's really interesting and recurring question that we've had on 12 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: the program, which is is it gonna be Biden? Now 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: what I what I can tell you about Ryan is 14 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: he's looked at It's not just the opinion of well, 15 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: do Democrats like Biden it off? Or it's what would 16 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: it require for Biden? And I mean by process, what 17 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: would it require for Biden to step aside, not step 18 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: down from being president but effectively let there be a 19 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: primary to occur. How that would actually work, meaning what 20 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: the timing of this would be. Is it possible? I 21 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: think we keep returning to this question over and over again. 22 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: And I'm just telling you my I've you know, we 23 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: had what do we have Uncle Bill on yesterday? We 24 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: had Bill o'reiley on yesterday. Yeah, Uncle Bill was with 25 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: us yesterday. You know, he's he still thinks there could 26 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: be something going on, and a lot of people do. 27 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: I'm feeling very confident in my prediction that, uh, you're 28 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: gonna have Joe Biden as the Democrat nominee. I just 29 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: don't think they'll give up incumbency. I just don't think 30 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: they'll do it because I I have I have confidence. 31 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: I don't even think that it's it will be easier 32 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: for Trump or just santists to beat a non Biden nominee. 33 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: I think even some of the other presidential contenders, you know, 34 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: I think if let's say it was Gavin Newsom, you know, 35 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: I think Gavin Newsom would have a tough time. I 36 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: think Kamala Harris would have a tough time against the 37 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: number of Anyway, I don't think we have to go though, though, 38 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: because it's gonna be, in my mind, gonna be Biden. 39 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: We'll talk to Ryan about some of the hurdles, and 40 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, I'm gonna have to buy clay one 41 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: of the steaks. I think he owes me like two now, 42 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: maybe three on bets, So we'll get to that. Also, 43 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: some breaking news for you here, the coast Guard has says, 44 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: this is breaking news. Just hitting the last last let 45 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: me see twenty thirty minutes or so, I'm just seeing it. 46 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: The coast Guard says, there's more underwater banging noises that 47 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: have been heard in the search for that missing sub, 48 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: the sub that was down looking at the Titanic wreckage 49 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: twelve five hundred feet below the surface. Oh yeah. Oceans 50 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 1: are amazing. They are awesome in the sense of awe inspiring, right, 51 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: I mean they are crazy when you think about it. 52 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: I believe in the Mariana Trench, I think that is 53 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: the deepest place in the ocean on the planet and 54 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: it goes further down than even Mount Everest. Am I 55 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: right on that one. Guys. You gotta be careful. There's 56 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: a lot of these facts that fly around on like 57 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: Instagram and Twitter and stuff, and you got a fact 58 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: check in this. Like I always tell people, if you 59 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: see a great quote online, go find the primary source. 60 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: Go find the primary source. Because even Abraham Lincoln new 61 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: don't trust everything you see on the internet. He said, 62 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:40,839 Speaker 1: it's very important to check your primary sources. So we are. 63 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: I'm hoping there's gonna be a miracle here. It reminds 64 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: me if that were to happen, it's a bit of 65 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: a reminder of that situation of the Thaie soccer team. Yeah. 66 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen the movie that Ron 67 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,119 Speaker 1: Howard made a bit. It's a very watchful, very good 68 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: movie where you have this Thaie soccer team that's explored 69 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: these caves. Allen's an amazing country. By the way, I 70 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: went many years ago with my brother highly highly recommend. 71 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: It's just it's an incredible country and what WANs to say, 72 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: it's like tons of tons of things to recommend. An 73 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: amazing food, amazing culture, super nice friendly folks. So anyway, 74 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: but a tie team there, a soccer team got in 75 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: this cave system and there was a flash flood and 76 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: they got stuck and then they had to take I 77 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 1: don't want to give away because if you haven't seen 78 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: the movie, but if you know the story, the way 79 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: they manage that rescue and that they didn't lose a 80 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: single I bring it up. They didn't lose a single child. 81 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: I bring it up because it gives me a hope 82 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 1: that we could have a miracle here. It gives me 83 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: a hope that we could have a Remember that feeling 84 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: you had when the miracle on the Hudson occurred with Sully, 85 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: with Captain Sullivan and he landed that plane and for 86 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: it just felt like for a couple of days or 87 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: everyone was just wow. Sometimes you the good guys win, 88 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: a miracle happens and everyone's Okay. I hope that we 89 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: have a moment like that here. I know it is 90 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: the odds are you know, I don't even get into 91 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: the odds. I'm not even gonna get in the odds. 92 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: Pray pray for these five that they are going to 93 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: be saved here. We will know aby tomorrow. If they 94 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: don't save them, it's all over. So pray that it 95 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: happens today. Well, if we have any breaking news on this, 96 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 1: we'll certainly tell you about it right away. Oh just 97 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: a quick The Mariana Trench is the deepest part of 98 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 1: the ocean, and it turns out, yeah, my geography knowledge 99 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: is pretty sound. It is thirty six thousand, two hundred 100 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: and one feet deep, almost seven miles down. Nature's incredible 101 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: It's an amazing world we live in here. All right. 102 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Trump interview for a second. It's 103 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: spent a lot of time on this one today because 104 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: we've talked about it a little bit yesterday. Brett Baar 105 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: sitting down with with Trump, Brett bear I would think 106 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people would would agree with me. 107 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: One of the top interviewers in the game, really really good, 108 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: knows his stuff. Doesn't push too much, doesn't. I'm just 109 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 1: talking about skill level. Never mind the whether you like 110 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: how we interviewed Trump. I'm just saying in general. And 111 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: even O'Reilly when he was with us yesterday, he says, 112 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: I've interviewed Trump. Interviewing Trump is he's just a force 113 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: of nature and his mind is going on at this, 114 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: you know, all the time, in all these different directions, 115 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: and if you try to and the problem is, I've 116 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: actually I'll tell you this, I've interviewed him before where 117 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: I wanted to jump in with a question or something, 118 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: and he'll even disarm you with a funny little aside 119 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: for a second, and so you are the interviewer kind 120 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: of laugh for a minute. You know, he's excuse me, 121 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: And then he'll say something that's funny, you know, a 122 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: little playful, little abusing, and then you I've forgotten my 123 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: question before because he said something funny. Then he went 124 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: back to what he's talking about. So it's some people 125 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: you interview them and it's like play. You know, it's 126 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: like throwing a baseball back and forth in the backyard. 127 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: It's just you know, you catch it, you throw it, 128 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: You catch it, you throw it. It's really straightforward. With Trump, 129 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: you are it's a lot. It's a lot going on, 130 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: and they covered a lot of ground in this second 131 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: part of the of the Trump interview. One thing that 132 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: I thought was particularly interesting was where he got into 133 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: how he feels it because I had told you this before. 134 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: One of the few places I've seen, even from the 135 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: most diehard Trump supporter, there are really very few places 136 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: where I will see them be critical of anything Trump 137 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: has said. I think the only exception to that is 138 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: on vaccine related issues. That's where I've seen some people 139 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: who say, I voted for Trump twice, I'll vote from 140 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: a third time. I'd vote from fifth teen times. But 141 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: I wish you would say things a little differently about 142 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: the vaccine now, and this is going to be you know, 143 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: because this is going to be litigated again as part 144 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty four election, the whole lockdown, COVID response, 145 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,239 Speaker 1: that whole phenomenon, right, We have not had a presidential 146 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: election since COVID, you know, first time around twenty twenty. 147 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: We have not had we have had a midterm. And 148 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: here he is on the mRNA shots And this I 149 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 1: think was the single part of the Brettbearer interview that 150 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: got the most attention. Play seven. 151 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 2: I have a. 152 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 3: Democrat friend who's very smart. He said, I don't understand 153 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 3: one thing about you. I want your rallies. They're incredible. 154 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 3: You talk about beating Isis, you talk about Texas, you 155 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 3: talk about everything, but you never I've never heard you 156 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 3: talk about the incredible job you did with the vaccines, because, 157 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 3: as you know, I got them done in nine months 158 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 3: and it was supposed to take anywhere from five to 159 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 3: twelve years. I broke their s okay, and he said, 160 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 3: you may have saved in the world, throughout the world, 161 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 3: one hundred million people, and you never talk about it. 162 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 3: I said, I really don't want to talk about it 163 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 3: because as a Republican, it's not a great thing to 164 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 3: talk about because for some reason. 165 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 4: It's just not for some reason. 166 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, for some reason, because people love the vaccines and 167 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 3: people hit the vaccins. 168 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: As a Republican, it's not good to talk about. Okay. 169 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: I wish we'd gotten a little more specificity there, because 170 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 1: here's what I think Trump could say about this issue 171 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 1: that would really handle it elegantly and clearly. I think 172 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: Trump could say, I broke down at a moment of 173 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: national panic. I broke down regulatory barriers from FDA and 174 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: everybody else. I got the red tape out of the way, 175 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: and I I always liked the Rumsfeld quote, you know, 176 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: you go to war with the army you have, because 177 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 1: it's it's it's true, and it was actually at the 178 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: end of old Rumsfeld had given Remember remember Rummy, do 179 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: you guys remember stargant RUMs. I'm not Sergeant Donald Ruoseveld. 180 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: You remember Rumsfeld? And he would talk about what was 181 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: going on in the early days of the Rock War, 182 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: and they hit him on this thing. He said, you 183 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: go to war with the army you have. Yeah, that's true. 184 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: What he was talking about was all the changes they 185 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: were making up armoring, humvies and things like that. Were 186 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 1: they ill prepared for the war. We were going to 187 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: be fighting with the insurgency. Yes, but you go to 188 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: you go to war with the virus, with the medical 189 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: army that you have, so to speak. Meaning you got 190 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,599 Speaker 1: to call on the national CDC and you got to 191 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: call on the hospital system. And I think Trump could 192 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: easily say here and this would deal with it pretty well. Look, 193 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: I knocked down the Trump wasn't down there with a 194 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: Bunsen burner and a beaker and you know, playing with 195 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: the m R n A stuff to figure. No, of course, 196 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: not right. What do you say is he knocked down 197 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: the barriers, the regulatory barriers, to clear the deck at 198 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: a moment of national crisis, to put the system in 199 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: the best possible place to give out the best vaccine. 200 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 1: The mandates were not Trump and the mandates were appalling 201 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 1: and wrong, and the development of the actual vaccines wildly 202 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: underperformed in the end with the outcomes we saw and 203 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: were far higher risk profile than the experts believed at 204 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: the time. I think that's if I were advising Trump, 205 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: and I am better at this than a lot of 206 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: the Trump advisors, I'm just gonna say it. That would 207 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: be an approach to it. That would be the way 208 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: that I would answer that question. Challenge that I think 209 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: Trump runs into on this is when he says the 210 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: vaccines saved hundreds of millions of lives. He has this 211 00:11:56,280 --> 00:12:00,599 Speaker 1: inclination to conflate getting it done to get us the 212 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 1: vaccine that could be produced, and the vaccines being awesome. 213 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: The vaccines were not awesome. That is not accurate, right, 214 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: that's a that's not his fault. But they're gonna come 215 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 1: after them on this one. And I know a lot 216 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: of you who, like I said, you're not a two 217 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 1: time Trump voter, you're a ten time Trump voter, meaning 218 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: you would vote for him no matter what. You're Trump, 219 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: no matter what. This is one issue where I think 220 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: people would want him to have a little clarity on it. 221 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: This is one place where I think he could take 222 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 1: a slightly different approach, because that was the single clip 223 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: that got the most attention I think, last night from people. 224 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 1: Because you're saying, hold on a second, now, we're being 225 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: told the vaccines were great. That's a challenge, right. I 226 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,719 Speaker 1: can't sit here and tell you every day that the 227 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: vaccines should absolutely not have been mandated. Trump agrees with that. 228 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 1: To be clear, the vaccine should not have been mandated. 229 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: The vaccines did not work as well as advertised. The 230 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: vaccines had far higher risk profile than advertise mile carditis 231 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: for young men specifically, but other things too, and then 232 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: be like, yeah, the vaccines were awesome, can't do it right. 233 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: Not gonna not gonna play that game. I'm gonna tell 234 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: you the truth. So that was the one place I 235 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: mean other than that, you know, there's he went after. 236 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 1: He went after Fox News pretty hard, which was a 237 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: that was interesting too. 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He knows how the system goes, 272 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: you know, and we're talking him about can they replace 273 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: Biden as the Democrat nominee? Effectively? Is that? Is it possible? 274 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: And then we can talk about is it likely? Because 275 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: the big question a lot of people have you see 276 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: all these polls with Biden at you know, seventy percent 277 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: or something of people thinking that he's too old, he 278 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: can't do it. Well, he was too old and too 279 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: you know, too lacking in cognition three years ago, right, 280 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: four years ago when the election happened. So who knows, 281 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: Brian in North Carolina? Brian, what do you got for me? Friend? 282 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 2: I agree with basically, yeah, go ahead, yeah, hey, sorry, 283 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 2: I agree with everything that you said. I'm probably gonna 284 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 2: vote for Trump. But the key thing that you kind 285 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 2: of left out of your analysis there is that it 286 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 2: was Trump's administration that made it so all of these 287 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 2: drug companies are basically walking scott free from the people 288 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 2: who were injured from it, the people who died from it, 289 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 2: because as part of the deal to make it so that, 290 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 2: you know, they can get through all the regulatory hoops 291 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 2: within nine months. One of the things he did was 292 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 2: he said, yeah, okay, you will not be held liable 293 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 2: for any problems any other drug vaccine out there because 294 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 2: of the problem for a person, guess what, you can 295 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 2: turn around and sue that company. You can't do that 296 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 2: for any of these drugs. That to me is a 297 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 2: big problem. Well ide that literally is the reason why 298 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 2: I personally have never gotten a vaccine. 299 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I agree with your point here. 300 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: I don't know how anyone could disagree with it. It 301 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: was hugely concerning. It should have been hugely concerning. Thank 302 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: you for calling in, Brian. I appreciate it hugely concerning 303 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: that when you remove liability for something that not only 304 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: is really experimental, never been used before in this way, 305 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: but also was Now it's not Trump's fault that was mandated, 306 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: to be clear, obviously, but that lack of liability and 307 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: then adding a mandate to it, the rubicon was crossed here. 308 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: And I think that we need to address this, and 309 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: I think Trump can address this, And most of you 310 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: writing it's funny people are saying, yeah, look, I'm a 311 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: I'm an all out always Trump voter, but I want 312 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: him to address the vaccine issue a little differently and 313 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: I want him to make sure that he speaks to 314 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: some of the problems that happened Operation Warp. Speed was awesome, 315 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: and the vaccines are amazing. That's not That's not what 316 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: Trump voters want to hear right now. They want to 317 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: hear a reckoning as to yeah, to Trump pushed through 318 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: an amazing program. Sure was the end product of that 319 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: program what we wanted. No, it was not, and that's 320 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 1: not Trump's fault, but we got to talk about it, honestly. Look, 321 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: and my cell phone service is with pure Talk. It's 322 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: been that way for a couple of years now. 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We've 341 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: got our friend Ryan Gradusky with us here to answer 342 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: this question of how would it work if Joe Biden 343 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: weren't going to be the nominee? Is this even possible? 344 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: What would the steps be, and how would it all 345 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: go down. Ryan Gardusky is the author of the National 346 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: Populis newsletter, which you can subscribe to on substack. I 347 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: subscribe to Ryan's newsletter. I think it's excellent. 348 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 4: Ryan's thanks for being with us, Thank you for having me. 349 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: Let's start with this, okay, because everyone, I mean, it 350 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: is one of the most commonly talked about things in 351 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,719 Speaker 1: politics right now. A lot of polls also feeding into this. 352 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: Oh seventy percent of people think that Biden's too old 353 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,719 Speaker 1: or you know whatever. The numbers are only thirty percent 354 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: want Biden, yet he is the president, he is the 355 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: nominee right now, and walk us through this, how would 356 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,719 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom take over? How would that actually happen? 357 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 2: Right? 358 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 4: So, this is a common thread you hear over and 359 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 4: over is that Gavin Newsom somehow has the nomination locked 360 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 4: and it will basically he replaced in the Democrat organization 361 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 4: will just swap one name for the other. And that's 362 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 4: not how this works. So, first of all, if Biden 363 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 4: was genuinely as weak as people think that he is, 364 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 4: or some pollings suggests, you would already have a serious challenger. 365 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 4: RFK and Mary and Williamson are not the most serious challengers, 366 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 4: and yet they pull about twenty to twenty five percent 367 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 4: collectively combined. If there was a serious challenger, as was 368 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 4: the case of LBJ when he ran was going to 369 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 4: run for reelection, you'd have serious people like RFK had 370 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 4: announced he'd run, and there was a bunch of other 371 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 4: people and obviously had dropped out. So with all intensive purposes, 372 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 4: it looks like Biden will be the nominee. That he 373 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 4: is not dropping out. If he were to drop out, 374 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 4: let's just say next month, he says, you know, what. 375 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 4: I'm too old. I can't just anymore, not in good health. 376 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 4: I have to drop out. There would be a flurry 377 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 4: of Democrats because the primary doesn't end. It's not like 378 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 4: they cancel the primary. They still have a primary. And 379 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 4: you would see Democrats, including the government California, as well 380 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 4: as the governor of Illinois JV. Pritzer, who is worth 381 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 4: three billion dollars and said he would spend a billion 382 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 4: of his own money. You probably would see Jared Polis, 383 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 4: the governor of Colorado. You would definitely see Vice President 384 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 4: Kamala Harris. You may see people to Judge, and you 385 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 4: might even see Bernie Sanders all sit there and buy 386 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 4: for the nomination. The most important voting block for Democrats 387 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 4: is older black women in the south right southern. That's 388 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 4: why they're also moving elections from Iowa, New Hampshire partly 389 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,719 Speaker 4: to the south. Black voters are establishment Democrat voters. They 390 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 4: don't vote for people like Bernie Sanders. They don't vote 391 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 4: like boot Bet, people to Judge or Elizabeth Warrence. They 392 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 4: are established in Democrats. Only one Democrat presidential candidate in 393 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 4: the last forty years has won the nomination without winning 394 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 4: huge support from the black community in the South, and 395 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 4: that was John Kerry. Everyone else the vote has always 396 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 4: come from black voters in the South for forty years. 397 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 4: Right now, Gavin Knew some polls within the low single 398 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 4: digits with the group of people in states that have 399 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 4: polled Gavin without Biden on the nomination. He is losing 400 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 4: to Kamala in places like South Carolina by twenty points, 401 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 4: places in Georgia by forty five points. There's not that 402 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 4: many polls, but all polls suggest they don't know who 403 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 4: he is and they don't really care for him. Now, 404 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 4: that's the first scenario, is if there's going to be 405 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 4: a primary, let's just say the primaries ends, Biden gets 406 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 4: the nomination, and then he decides he can't do it right, 407 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 4: which is the other scenarios. Some How they're going to 408 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 4: sit there and do this. This has happened in recent history. 409 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 4: In two thousand in Missouri, the Democratic governor candidate who 410 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 4: was running for Senate died, which I think three weeks 411 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 4: before election day. Name was on the ballot. The Democrats 412 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 4: that we're going to appoint his wife for a short 413 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 4: period of time until we hold another special election, and 414 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 4: then his life won. They voted for the dead guy 415 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 4: over the Republican which was John Ashcroft, who Trump Bush 416 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 4: rather put as Attorney general. Anyway, if Biden were to 417 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 4: step away after the nomination, his name would still be 418 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 4: on the ballot because ballots are printed months six to 419 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 4: eight months rather before, not sixty eight months, but several 420 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 4: months before the election. Right, you can't just all of 421 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 4: a sudden print new ballots. There's budgets that states have 422 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 4: dedicated to ballot printing, and also military voter voters go out. 423 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 4: Military ballots gout months and months before, so do early voting. 424 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 4: Now is almost two months in some states, so the 425 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 4: names are already printed, so it would say Joe Biden and 426 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,360 Speaker 4: Kamala Harris. There are rules that the DNC, the Democratic 427 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 4: National Party, have and the rules are quote, filling a 428 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,719 Speaker 4: vacancy on a national ticket in the event of death, resignation, 429 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 4: or disability for the party's president or vice president. After 430 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 4: the national Convention, the national chairperson the Democratic National Committee 431 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 4: show confer with the Democratic leadership of the United States 432 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 4: Congress Democratic Governors Association, and they shall report to the DNC, 433 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 4: who will then authorize to fill the vacancy or vacancy's 434 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 4: There is no way that the Congress and the Governor's 435 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 4: Association and the DNC are going to skip one of 436 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 4: the people whose name will be on the ballot, which 437 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,959 Speaker 4: is Kamala Harris, to replace it with somebody who has 438 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 4: never ran a national ticket, which is Gavin Newsom. So 439 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 4: in all cases it would be Kamala not Gavin Newsom. 440 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 1: So this perfectly transitions and what I wanted to ask, 441 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 1: and I wish Clay was here because we go back 442 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: and forth on this one a lot about who is 443 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,360 Speaker 1: really the heir apparent? Is it Kamala or is it Newsome? Right, 444 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: And there's a lot of this back and forth. I've 445 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: always look, I've been saying all along, I think Newsom 446 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: things twenty twenty eight. He's the guy, no question. I 447 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 1: just don't think he thinks really realistically, he's going to 448 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: be able to make that happen in twenty twenty four. 449 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: But the question I have for you, Ryan is are 450 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: we on the right underestimating not the gifts and skills 451 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: that Kamala has as a politicians. I don't think anyone 452 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: thinks she's an amazing politician, but are we underestimating her 453 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: as a Democrat electability? Meaning she would actually do better 454 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: than people think if she did become the nominee. 455 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 4: No, she's an absolutely candidate, but horrible candidate, and everyone 456 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 4: admits that. Remember in twenty ten when she ran for 457 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 4: attorney general the first time in California. I think she 458 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 4: only won by two points. She's not a good candidate. 459 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 4: But that doesn't mean that it's a binary choice Kamala 460 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,239 Speaker 4: versus Gavin Newsom. If all of a sudden, the you know, 461 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 4: the wheels came off and everyone was running, you know, 462 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 4: Gretchen Whitmer. Gretchen Whimmer was one a bigger election landslide 463 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 4: in Michigan than the Democrats won in New York. Will 464 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 4: they were showing a bigger landslide than Democrats won in 465 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 4: a lot of other states. Jared Poulis would be the 466 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 4: first gay and he's a moderate and he was very 467 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 4: anti closing all the schools during COVID. I mean, he 468 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 4: has certain appeals. And Colorado's a new blue state. You 469 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 4: would have to sit there. There was also two senators 470 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 4: from Georgia who probably would be interested in running. It's 471 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 4: not a binary choice. Gavin Newsom is making a lot 472 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 4: of headway because he's doing a lot of press. That 473 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,239 Speaker 4: doesn't necessarily matter with the Democrat electorate overall, though, I 474 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 4: think he floated things like giving reparations to black voters 475 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 4: because he was saying, oh, maybe there'll be a spot 476 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 4: for me, and I need to win the peal of 477 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 4: southern black voters. But he can't make good on that 478 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 4: because it's the budget for the reparations is too high 479 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 4: in California campaign and he's already walking in wait. 480 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: But who would be right now, based on what we 481 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: know from the polls, who's the strongest with that constituency. 482 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: You bring up who delivered the twenty twenty nomination to 483 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, right, which is the black primary Southern voters, 484 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: who is the strongest with them among the leading Democrats 485 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: other than Joe Biden. 486 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 4: I'm wars. There's no question there are stablished and voters. 487 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 4: They didn't even support Obama ef first until Iowa sat 488 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 4: there and voted for him. They weren't even pulling up 489 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 4: with that because they are They are establishment Democrats at 490 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 4: the end of the day. And that is why the 491 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 4: Democratic Party was is moving the primary more to the 492 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 4: South to avoid a Bermee Sandy Sanders style progressive from 493 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 4: ever getting the nomination. 494 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: Well, this is also why I again perfect transition here 495 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 1: into Iowa New Hampshire. They're the Democrats are effectively like, 496 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 1: tell everybody what the change has been to South Carolina 497 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: and the possibility here. I mean, I just saw that, 498 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: Like Iowa Democrats are saying, hold on a second, we're 499 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: supposed to go first, and we're going to go first. 500 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 1: So you don't just get to change this, honest, So 501 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 1: can RFK juniors slip in and maybe get a win? Like, 502 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: how does that work? 503 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 4: So what's happening right now is the Democrats, being the 504 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 4: racial being, the party that cares about race more than 505 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 4: anything in the entire world, is saying we can't have 506 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 4: Iowa and New Hampshire. They're too white, and we just 507 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 4: they don't represent as a party. Despite the fact that 508 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 4: two out of every three people that voted for Democrats 509 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 4: in both twenty twenty two and twenty twenty were white. 510 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 4: They do not want a majority white state cast in 511 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 4: their first vote. It's also that Iowa New Hampshire have 512 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 4: a tendency to vote the more progressive Democrats, but that's 513 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 4: besides the point. So they're saying South Carolina should go 514 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 4: first and then Georgia should go afterwards, and then we'll 515 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 4: get around to Iowa and New Hampshire. Iowa New Hampshire 516 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 4: Democrats are saying, no, that's not going to work with us. 517 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 4: We are holding the primary when we want to, and 518 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 4: we are doing it first. Will be the first in 519 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 4: the nation for Republicans and for Democrats. So Joe Biden 520 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 4: has said that if Iowa and New Hampshire goes first, 521 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 4: he will not put his name on the ballot in 522 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 4: Iowa and New Hampshire, so they will not be able 523 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 4: to vote for him. So if I mean, it's a 524 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 4: lot of still in, a lot of pieces are still 525 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 4: moving for that to happen. But if they all hold 526 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 4: to their cards, then yeat, Joe Biden will not be 527 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 4: on the ballot in Iowa and New Hampshire and he 528 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 4: will not be able to win those first two states 529 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 4: and the delegates, and presumptively, I'm going to imagine RFK 530 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 4: Junior will win the first possibly win the first two contests, 531 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 4: which would be really wild. 532 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: It's gonna be an interesting situation, that much is for sure. 533 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: What would you say just before I let you go? 534 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: I mean, in your mind, at the odds of Gavin 535 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: Newsom being the Democrat nominee in twenty twenty four, how 536 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: how would you how would you gauge. 537 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 4: That a number between one and zero. I mean it 538 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 4: would have to be Biden would have to one either 539 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 4: pass away, which I'm not hoping for, but he would 540 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 4: have to pass away, or he would have to step 541 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 4: down in some capacity, and then it would go to 542 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 4: the open primary and you'd have a floodgate of people. 543 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 4: You know, the governor of Illinois, who is a very 544 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,239 Speaker 4: liberal Democrat, is literally willing to spend a billion of 545 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 4: his own money he owned I think he's from the 546 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 4: Marriott family or something like that, one of the hotel 547 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 4: franchises a billion dollars of his own money, and he 548 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 4: would have an operation together in a you have to 549 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 4: get It's not like you run for president, you appear 550 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 4: on MSNBC and all of a sudden you're the nominee. 551 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 4: You have to have field workers, you have to have 552 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 4: you have to make sure you're on the ballot access. 553 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 4: It's an immensely large undertaking that takes months and months 554 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 4: and months of work. 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All We're gonna 596 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: be closing up shop here shortly today. Thank you for 597 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: tuning in. Playbill be back tomorrow, and I want to 598 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: tell you to please subscribe to the Clay, Travis and 599 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: Buck Section Show podcast because we have additional content that 600 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: you won't get anywhere else, not on the radio. We're 601 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: only putting on the podcast down with the iHeartRadio app 602 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: for that and subscribe to Clay und buck feed I 603 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: have spoken to let me see Pete Hegseth. Last week 604 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: was on Dave Rubin. This week was on We've Got 605 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: some Great Folks longer form podcast interviews. 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The 612 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: Dracula one still does well every year around obviously Halloween, 613 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: so a deep dive on the real Dracula I would impressed. 614 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: I got to give high five to to Bill O'Reilly 615 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: right off the coffee yesterday, just saying Vlad chep Esh 616 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: and knowing the name of the actual historical figure that 617 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: the Dracula horror movie and horror book character was based 618 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: off of. So u Bill, Bill's got got some skill 619 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: on that one, got some game. Was impressed, pretty good, 620 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: pretty good. Carolyn in Atlanta says she has traveled to 621 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: the Titanic Titanic wreck site and wait, so really, Carolyn, 622 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: you you did this? You did you go in this sub. 623 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 5: Not in the sub but we were on there's two 624 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 5: cruise ships that were pleased by the then owner, George Tullock, 625 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 5: and pH Nargally was on our ship along with one 626 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 5: of the Eleanor Schumann, she was on board with us 627 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 5: as well. 628 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: Wait, so you took a surface ship to the site 629 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: where it went down and you had survivors of the 630 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: disaster on with you? Is that? Is that right? 631 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 5: We had? We had one on board our ship and 632 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 5: one on the other ship we took. We sailed out 633 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 5: of Boston Harbor straight to the Rex site and just 634 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 5: circled the site for three days and watched the recovery. 635 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 5: And the purpose of the cruise was to watch the 636 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 5: first piece of hull section being brought up. There was 637 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 5: a twenty five ton piece of hull. It had a 638 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,280 Speaker 5: few portholes in it, it had broken away from the ship, 639 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 5: and they had then the submersibles then going down constantly 640 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 5: bringing up artifacts. The company was brought out in a 641 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 5: hostile takeover by a man living here in Atlanta who 642 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,479 Speaker 5: supposedly has a secret warehouse where a lot of these 643 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 5: artifacts are being kept now. But we watched and we 644 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,280 Speaker 5: saw it on closed circuit for the last three hundred 645 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 5: feet being brought up to the surface. And the way 646 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 5: they did it was they attached navy flotation balloons, if 647 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 5: you will, filled with a liquid some sort of liquid 648 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 5: gas that was that would float, and they took it 649 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 5: down via the submersible, attached it by They had seven 650 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 5: of them, of these flotation balloons, and they attached it 651 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 5: to the hull section and just well, we brought it up. 652 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 5: So it's possible that it's possible for something to bring 653 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,760 Speaker 5: up this sub whether it's the Navy, so maybe utter. 654 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: Technology now not necessarily even like a cable that would 655 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 1: be cranked, but it could be buoyancy devices that are deployed. Yeah, 656 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 1: but are you do you like the Titanic movie and 657 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 1: maybe silly question. I'm just curious, what do you think. 658 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 5: Let's put it this way. I own a replica of 659 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:26,720 Speaker 5: the necklace. 660 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: That sounds like a yes. That sounds like a yes. 661 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 5: Okay, that's great, Carol Well, I actually own a piece 662 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 5: of coal salvage from her hull, and that's what got 663 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 5: me the invitation to take this cruise. I took my 664 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 5: mother along with me. She was living with me at 665 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 5: the time, but her parents were scheduled to take their 666 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 5: honeymoon cruise on the Titanic and had to cancel out 667 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 5: at the last minute. 668 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,280 Speaker 1: In London, Carolyn, you would have made room for Jack 669 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: on the floating door, right, I mean that's the part 670 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 1: of it that right, I mean, I know it was cold, 671 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 1: but yeah, thank you for calling it, Carrol. Thanks for 672 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: jordaing us. Appreciated, Doctor Joe writes in on our VIP 673 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 1: go to Clayandbuck dot com for that one Buck. I agree. 674 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: Trump needs to have a sit down with someone and 675 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: get briefed on why the vaccine the gene therapy jab 676 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 1: wasn't good. But one more thing, he needs to address 677 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: the public private partnership issue. He seemed very proud of that, 678 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: but it's a magic catchphrase and nefarious strategy of globalists 679 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: like the World Economic Forum. It's bad. He needs to 680 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: put that in the correct context. Shield High, Doctor Joe 681 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 1: Shield TI to you, sir, thank you very much for 682 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: writing in. Appreciate it, and hey, team play and I'll 683 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 1: be back with all of you tomorrow. We're also going 684 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 1: to be hanging out together in New York City on Friday. 685 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 1: So excited to do a couple more shows this week. 686 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say, one more time, say a prayer 687 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 1: for this, the five individuals in this submarine. I am 688 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 1: praying today and tonight that tomorrow'll be able to come 689 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 1: on the air and tell you that they were saved. 690 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:54,879 Speaker 1: Prayers up.